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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On this episode, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about something that has not talked about much,

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Speaker 1: period stains. A defective water bottle that has caused blindness,

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Speaker 1: a physical therapist burned alive in his own hyperbaric oxygen chamber,

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Speaker 1: a can joined twin that recently announced that she was married,

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Speaker 1: and the dark history of the Candyland game. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about period stains. We've all had them.

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Speaker 2: So photos started showing up on news outlets last week

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Speaker 2: of model Brooks Nader with period stains.

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Speaker 1: On her white skirt.

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Speaker 2: So at first I saw it on TMC and was like,

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Speaker 2: are we serios still living in a society where somebody

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Speaker 2: had period stains by accident on their clothes and we're

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Speaker 2: like blowing up their spot. But apparently she posted the

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Speaker 2: photos herself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I love that because I think that every

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Speaker 1: single woman could say that they've definitely had to deal

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Speaker 1: with that at some point in their life. I specifically

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Speaker 1: remember having an incident at school. I remember you had

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Speaker 1: an incident at school too, where Gabe had to bring

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Speaker 1: you clothes. I mean wearing white when you have your

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Speaker 1: period is brave. Well, white ever is brave.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, when she was at Wimbledon and she did capture

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Speaker 2: you were white to Wimbledon, I guess because she said

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Speaker 2: tries to be chic, starts period at Wimbledon, So I

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Speaker 2: don't think she knew it was coming. Sometimes it hit

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Speaker 2: you unexpectedly, and then she wanted to, you know, break

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Speaker 2: the stigma that it's embarrassing. I think when you're a

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Speaker 2: drop dead gorgeous model, it's a little less embarrassing than

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Speaker 2: if you're a normal person like us and you're out

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Speaker 2: in public and get it.

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Speaker 1: But first it was also barely like I've had them

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Speaker 1: that it's just like, I mean, it doesn't even matter

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Speaker 1: anymore because I'm wearing black pants ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 1: the time. But I'm like, if I was wearing even

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Speaker 1: regular jeans, like holy shit, that would be it looks

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Speaker 1: like a massacre, Like it doesn't look like a little

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Speaker 1: tiny brown spot, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean even at the meat and greet, I was

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Speaker 2: wearing black pants but a white shirt, and I was

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Speaker 2: like hemorrhaging that day, and I was like, watch this

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Speaker 2: go shirt somehow because it just happens like that. I

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Speaker 2: don't think I'd ever be brave enough to wear white pants. Seriously,

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Speaker 2: even if I couldn't get my period, like I was

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Speaker 2: older at menopause, like definitely wasn't getting it anymore, I

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Speaker 2: don't think i'd be brave enough to wear them.

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Speaker 1: I wore a white jacket to the lecture at the

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Speaker 1: Georgia Writers Museum, and you saw me on the way there.

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Speaker 1: I was drinking a nice coffee and I took the

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Speaker 1: jacket off. And then we went to the Mexican restaurant

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Speaker 1: and I was so scared I was just gonna get

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Speaker 1: something on it, like I'm just me and white. I'm

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Speaker 1: too sloppy to be a white person.

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Speaker 2: Then you had like salsa on your chin. I was like,

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Speaker 2: how did this even get here?

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't even understand why I would ever

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Speaker 1: decide to wear white. But I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: thing that so many women go through, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I was looking this up and because I feel like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, right now, I'm barely having anything. But when

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Speaker 1: I was younger, I had a heavy flow, and so

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Speaker 1: did you, and so did like every single person I know.

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Speaker 1: And you know this bullshit that they tell you it's

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Speaker 1: like two to three tablespoons a month. It seem like

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Speaker 1: a laugh, but it's only two to three tablespoons. No,

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Speaker 1: just like I'm just like, bitch, I've had like two cups.

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Speaker 1: Like what are you talking in one day? Yeah, exactly. Like,

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Speaker 1: so they're saying that normal is supposed to be thirty

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Speaker 1: to forty millilters, which ends up being two to three tablespoons,

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Speaker 1: and then you a little bit moderate is four. And

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Speaker 1: then they're saying anything over over that is considered to

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Speaker 1: be excessive heavy menstrual bleeding, which is five tablespoons or more.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just thinking, like, listen, I believe that it's

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Speaker 1: possible because they sell those tampons that are like literally

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Speaker 2: Bathrooms and stuff. I'm jealous of people that could use this.

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Speaker 1: I need to get like four of them in the

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Speaker 1: we had to they only had them at Walmart and

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm even sitting here thinking, like I feel like

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Speaker 2: like every two to three hours, and she's like, that's

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Speaker 2: not heavy. I'm talking about like you fill it in

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes, like a big one.

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Speaker 1: Now. That used to happen to mom. Mom, it was terrible.

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Speaker 1: She went before she got her hysterectomy. She used to

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Speaker 1: have to you know those those blue things from the

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Speaker 1: hospital that are called a chuck. It's like a blue

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Speaker 1: piece of plastic with like cotton on it. I don't

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Speaker 1: You just put it down for like the sterile area

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Speaker 1: of when you're using something or whatever. So it's plastic

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Speaker 1: leak as much, and then the cotton absorbs it. She

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Speaker 1: bleed through that fist like a pad and a tampon.

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Speaker 1: It's it is so crazy with some women go through.

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Speaker 1: So now they have those period pad underwear, which I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking like if you use a really big tampon and

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Speaker 1: from leaks. I definitely think like once my kids start

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Speaker 1: for school because it's so embarrassing when that happens. You

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I applaud when she's trying to do

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Speaker 2: posting these pictures, but I also think she's, you know,

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Speaker 2: a sports illustrated bottel. She's dropped it gorgeous. So I

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Speaker 2: think when you are like that, it's a little easier

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Speaker 2: to have embarrassing things happen to you and people not

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Speaker 2: care as much. But when you're like thirteen years old

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Speaker 2: and you're at school and it happens and you need

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Speaker 2: new pants, I don't think your classmates are as forgiving so.

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Speaker 1: And you're all like pimply engross and like it's it's

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Speaker 1: definitely not a cute little red dot. It's like all

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure the two percent of male listeners we

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Speaker 2: have listening to this are extremely uncomfortable by the period chat,

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Speaker 2: but get over it because we have to deal with

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Speaker 2: it every month and it sucks. But now you do too,

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Speaker 2: and now you do too. It's part of like literally

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Speaker 2: part of our monthly life. So like, what do you

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Speaker 2: up from us? I don't feel like I should have

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Speaker 2: to keep it a secret because it makes you uncomfortable,

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Speaker 2: deal with it. Okay. Walmart has recalled eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand stainless steel water bottles after two people became

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Speaker 2: permanently blind from the lids, ejecting, I thought you were.

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Speaker 1: Gonna say they have they have banned dildo sized tampons.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen them, to be honest, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: I haven't used them in years, but I remember that

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Speaker 1: was the only place that sold them, which was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Like what is it about women of Walmart that have

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Speaker 1: but thank you Walmart for filling that part of my life. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: water bottles under pressure. I guess this happens if especially

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Speaker 1: lid could pop off and shoot you. Has caused permanent

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Speaker 1: eye injuries to people. It's kind of amazing that it

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Speaker 2: Well, I understand it happening with carbonated beverages, but they're

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Speaker 2: saying there was a possibility it could happen with still

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Speaker 2: how that would build enough pressure to shoot it because

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Speaker 2: it's like shooting off like a champagne bottle is I guess.

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Speaker 1: Any time that you have. I don't think it could

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Speaker 1: happen with water per se, but things that I mean,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I forgot it was in

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Speaker 1: and they don't tell you what circumstances it happens under,

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Speaker 1: it was screwing on, but I guess it's just one

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Speaker 2: Well. I wanted to say, like I wonder how statistically

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Speaker 2: how many people get black eyes or vision issues from

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Speaker 2: opening champagne because people really don't know how to open it.

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Speaker 2: I mean from working in the bar, I learned a

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, I get that, it really, it really is,

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Speaker 1: and it's fir. People times do.

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Speaker 2: Not understand when you untwist the cage, you immediately put

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Speaker 2: your hand on top of the cork until you're ready

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Speaker 2: to start taking it out, and you shouldn't push it

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Speaker 2: out like people's show on like movies and.

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Speaker 1: TV, Yeah, because you're like aiming it at something.

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Speaker 2: Basically, you grab, you take the cage off, you put

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Speaker 2: your hand on top of the cork. You put your

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Speaker 2: a forty degree angle, and you hold the cork and

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Speaker 2: you twist the bottle. You don't pull the cork.

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Speaker 1: Not as dramatic. Let's talk about this, this guy with

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Speaker 1: the hyperbaric oxygen chamber, because didn't we have one of

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Speaker 1: these cases a few months ago with the kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not the kid. But this guy was

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Speaker 2: a forty three year old physical therapist. He owned the practice,

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Speaker 2: and he went in the hyperbary chamber by himself at

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock at night.

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Speaker 1: I would assume when you go in them.

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Speaker 2: You have to have somebody else monitoring. No, like I

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Speaker 2: would assume with the big machine, got a one person system.

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Speaker 1: No, it probably, it probably could be. It probably can

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Speaker 1: be a one person system. But for safety purposes, just

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Speaker 1: like we're talking about right now. Let's say that the

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Speaker 1: fire happened and there was somebody else there. There might

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Speaker 1: have been a chance that he would have been able

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Speaker 1: to get out quicker if someone was there to assist.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Like these things are known for for

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Speaker 1: trap It like people get trapped inside because of the pressure.

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Speaker 1: It's like not easy for them to get out of

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Speaker 1: it once there's an issue, and they are very flammable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I guess the flame was inside of

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Speaker 2: it and he just got burned alive in there. So

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Speaker 2: like I don't I just really don't understand what happened.

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Speaker 2: I guess the machine itself could fail. But whenever you

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Speaker 1: All right, So this subject is super super interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: feel about it? I'm sure it's been thoroughly discussed.

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Speaker 1: Whose name goes on the birth certificate?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because it's such a unique situation.

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Speaker 1: It's really nuts, right, Like, I just this is all

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Speaker 1: the stuff I'm interested in.

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Speaker 2: The problem is that Abby and Brittany had their show,

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Speaker 2: but it was done in a reality show type of way,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think what we need is a reality show.

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Speaker 2: I think we need an extremely tasteful documentary that follows

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Speaker 2: them and is like not making fun of them and

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Speaker 2: not trying to exploit them. I'm not saying that's necessarily

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Speaker 2: what the Abby and Brittany show is doing, but I

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Speaker 2: don't think it was like talking about the scientific component,

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Speaker 2: the social component behind it, it's just like we're just

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Speaker 2: observing them like they're in a tank.

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Speaker 1: Did a little bit though, they because they went through

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Speaker 1: when they got they did when they were little kids

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Speaker 1: and how they would ride a bike and then they

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Speaker 1: taught that like what happened when they were driving, and

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Speaker 1: then even.

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Speaker 2: As children, it's very different because as adults you're making

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Speaker 2: decisions like being in long term relationships, having babies, being

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Speaker 2: in a sexual relationship with somebody, those are very different.

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Speaker 1: They don't I mean, they've said multiple times that they

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Speaker 2: Well because I'm sure after they were on TV so

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Speaker 2: many people made fun of them, and it's fucked up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not their fault. They're in this like

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Speaker 2: extremely unique situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the dark history of Candyland. The

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Speaker 2: game has been out for seventy five years, and I

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Speaker 2: just learned today that it was invented to help children

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's a really interesting story about a school

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Speaker 1: teacher who was on the Polio Award with children that

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Speaker 1: infection that was called poliomylitis, and that is when there

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Speaker 1: a person that didn't really live through polio, you know,

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Speaker 1: we hear about how terrible it was, and obviously it

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Speaker 1: and if they did, it was just like a cold.

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Speaker 1: It was only one percent of kids and mostly children,

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Speaker 1: their nerves, which was obviously what the motivation was in

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Speaker 1: finding a vaccination for that. But yeah, so this teacher

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Speaker 1: first board of it, it was like you have to

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Speaker 1: go through this candy forest and all these amazing things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought it was cool because they were

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Speaker 2: showing the very first like design of the game and

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Speaker 2: it featured a boy wearing a leg breeze.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting and I never I had never

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Speaker 1: heard of that. I don't know why they decided on

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Speaker 1: doing an article on this right now. Was it like

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Speaker 1: an anniversary or something. The board game has obviously changed

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Speaker 1: beginning and it's pretty cool story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is all right, guys. Well, if you were

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