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Speaker 2: Pauled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 2: Problem solved middle the Enzo pickoff.

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Speaker 1: Hi's here White with the interception, the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh

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Speaker 2: that was nasty right there? Rights slam the ground by

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Speaker 2: fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: You know something happened at the conclusion of week one

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Speaker 2: that I never thought going in. I actually have more

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Speaker 2: questions after Week one than I did going in. Is

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Speaker 2: it possible to actually come away from playing four quarters

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Speaker 2: of a regular season game and have more questions than

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Speaker 2: before the game even kicked off. That's sort of a

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Speaker 2: rhetorical question for Darren Urban Danny Sirek yours Truly poly podcast.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into all that. You know, the biggest leap

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Speaker 2: isn't from year one to year two, it's from week

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Speaker 2: one to week two. You got to make adjustments, okay,

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Speaker 2: And apparently based on the game plan that I'm seeing here,

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Speaker 2: we are going to make some adjustments upcoming foreshadowing here

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Speaker 2: on Cardinals Underground. Danny, you're ready to take over what's

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Speaker 2: sure to be an exciting, slash, entertaining, slash, highly competitive

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Speaker 2: edition of a brand new game within the game.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, but we're not going to get to that quite yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, because we're going to start with

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Speaker 2: Week one in Buffalo, are we not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want you to answer your rhetorical question.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: I want to hear your answer to your rhetorical question.

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Speaker 4: You do really okay? First of all, when you say

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Speaker 4: you have a lot of questions after week when you're

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Speaker 4: talking about Cardinals specific, are you talking about the league

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Speaker 4: in general?

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Speaker 2: You know you could zoom out and say the league.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the only real answer I think we have

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Speaker 2: in the NFL as a whole is that the Carolina

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Speaker 2: Panthers will be picking number one. Other than that it

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Speaker 2: is wide open.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel pretty confident that the forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers are going to be pretty low in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That forty nine ers exhibition they ran for one

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Speaker 2: to eighty without Christian McCaffrey. Jordan Mason just gets plugged

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Speaker 2: in in rushes for a buck forty eight or whatever

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and one of my fantasy leagues, I have Christian

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey and Darren Yelle's over to me at my desk

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Speaker 3: that he was inactive, and when I was upset because

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Speaker 3: obviously there was no one else to play, I didn't

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers, and I asked darn if I could

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Speaker 3: leave where early and go home, and he said no,

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Speaker 3: that was not a good enough reason.

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Speaker 2: I did say that the strength of the NFC West

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Speaker 2: is not a question. It's gonna be good, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: I think I saw some next level analytics that actually said, like,

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Speaker 4: in terms of expected play average for both offense and defense.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the Cardinals didn't do have quite as

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Speaker 4: good of a game as they would have liked, but

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Speaker 4: they were still in the positive for offense, and I

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Speaker 4: think everybody in the division was ahead of the game

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Speaker 4: in terms of when you look at everybody in the division,

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Speaker 4: I think they were the only division where everybody was

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Speaker 2: By the way, did you see NFL next Gen stats?

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Speaker 2: They have debuted their own innovation for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: They're now quantifying tackling. So we'll get to that a

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Speaker 2: that they just posted that earlier today. We'll get into

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Speaker 2: that a little bit later. Well, yeah, if you want

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Speaker 2: at Buffalo, I mean the whole you know, going before

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Speaker 2: have said before the game, you went into Buffalo and

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Speaker 2: he lost by six points. A team with the quarterback

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Speaker 2: who's number two in MVP odds, a team that's been

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs six straight years and has gone pretty

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Speaker 2: deep into the playoffs. Okay, all right, A competitive Cardinals

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Speaker 2: the fact that you took a seventeen to three lead

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Speaker 3: I wasn't necessarily surprised by the first half. I went

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Speaker 3: just looking at the quarterback matchups and offensive pieces, and

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Speaker 3: forced a turnover I thought was huge, and the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: capitalize on that, scoring on their first three drives. After

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Speaker 3: seeing what we saw in the first half, it it

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Speaker 3: was clearly different in the second. The Cardinals were not

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Speaker 3: able to move the chains, were not able to capitalize.

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray not able to connect with his receivers, whether

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Speaker 3: defense was showing. I will say, to a certain extent,

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Speaker 3: given the defense a little slack is Josh Allen is

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, and there's a reason the Bills have been

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Speaker 3: competitive every year that he's been in Buffalo. His ability

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Speaker 3: it's not a top wide receiver like Gabe Davis or

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, who the Bills are without this year, finds

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Speaker 2: You mean, he's not the most overrated player in the

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Speaker 2: league like that, anonymous poll declared.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm watching that game and I'm thinking to

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen has a chants to be Patrick Mahomes from

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Speaker 4: think the Cardinals did a great job of essentially taking

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Speaker 4: away Dalton Kincaid, the great tight end, and he still

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Speaker 4: made things happen. And you know, I know people are

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Speaker 4: I mean, one of the reasons he was making so

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Speaker 4: I thought they did that sometimes. Unfortunately he broke containing

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Speaker 4: too many times and then it happened. But it's funny

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Speaker 4: you talk about all the questions you have. I'll be honest. One,

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Speaker 4: the two biggest things I took away were one, I

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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. And two, when I look at questions,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, the only thing that really was like wow,

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Speaker 4: I did not expect that was the Marvin Harrison three targets,

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, on Josh Allen, he's like this maddening

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Speaker 2: combination of Big Ben and like Steve Young, Yes, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, dudes can be dripping off him and hitting

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Speaker 4: I mean he's a large man.

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Speaker 2: Or or he could just be running through the open

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Speaker 2: field making guys miss trucking dudes, campaigning for calls that

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Speaker 2: he got. We'll get into that a little bit later.

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Speaker 4: Let's not go there.

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Speaker 2: As to your point about the tight ends. You know,

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Speaker 2: my keys to the game, right that I had going in.

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Speaker 3: We got a key chain with the key you took

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Speaker 3: it out of the package.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now there's a key chain, you know, So my

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Speaker 2: key to the game going in was the tight ends

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Speaker 2: both of them. How could the Cardinals defend Dawson Knox

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Speaker 2: Stalton Kincaid. They had one catch apiece and then the

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Speaker 2: was kind of a non factor. But yeah, in terms

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Speaker 2: of questions, I guess you know the Marvin Harrison junior one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that leads a powerpole. We'll get into that in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But still you want to hit other There's other questions

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Speaker 2: individual players, like other new guys. In additions, you know

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Speaker 3: Justin Jones with the fumble recovery.

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know a Max Melton didn't have a great

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Speaker 2: Pro Football focus grade. You know, I mean Xavier Thomas

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Speaker 2: You know, there's just there's a lot of questions there.

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Speaker 2: There's still a lot of questions in my mind. Tell

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Speaker 2: me if I'm off base here. The Cardinals' ability to

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Speaker 2: be cloud coverage these shell coverages. Oh, I think that's

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Speaker 4: Now, Okay, I guess I guess that's why I need

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Speaker 4: to clarify. You're talking about questions that you still want answers,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there were there's questions on personnel. There's questions on

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Speaker 2: what exactly is going to be the identity on both

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Speaker 4: I mean to me again, I would have to go

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Speaker 4: watch it again. Obviously you strongly disagree.

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Speaker 2: Paul Well, especially in the second half, probably the second, third,

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Speaker 2: and fourth quarter. I just thought Josh Allen had far

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Speaker 4: Maybe I guess I just saw way too many completions

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Speaker 4: that's different to me.

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Speaker 2: Even the Roy Lopez so sack, do we agree was

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Speaker 2: a coverage sack that had a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of time, although somebody said he had a wide open guy,

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Speaker 4: which sounds familiar, but nobody got on his case about

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Speaker 4: it and just missed him. And that's the only reason

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Speaker 4: Lopez got there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, And then the other sack was Kee Trell Clark.

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Speaker 2: It was basically me fell out.

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Speaker 4: It was It was the one where Josh Allen they

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Speaker 4: it was going to be called a run because I

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Speaker 4: was because Mark Dalton was the PR guy was talking

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Speaker 4: to be a run. Well it was a pass and

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Speaker 4: then he ran. It was like that third and long

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Speaker 2: It is deceiving in real time. I mean that play

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that, all right. Marvin Harrison Junior?

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Speaker 2: Where are we on this? Who is he? We don't

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Speaker 4: There's a senior and he's definitely the junior.

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Speaker 3: With one reception off three targets for four yards. I

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Speaker 4: Well that's what they keep telling us.

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Speaker 3: But I do think that it probably helped of Okay,

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Speaker 3: And then you throw in the fact that it was windy,

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Speaker 4: I Paul, you're gonna know this. I mean, it feels

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Speaker 4: you're not getting the ball more than Larry Fitzgerald. This

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Speaker 4: Carson Palmer used to say the same thing, Kurt. You

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Speaker 2: But even if they did play, they'd see vanilla coverages. Yes,

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Speaker 2: one way. He got extra attention. Yeah, he was treated

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, especially in that second half. Look at

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Speaker 3: Regardless of whatever the score would have been, if the

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Speaker 3: Harrison Junior only had three targets. However it would have been,

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Speaker 3: it would have been a different story of Okay. But

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Speaker 3: but you made the best of it. Exactly what your

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Speaker 4: And Connor was and McBride had the most targets right.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's it's a it's a twofold issue

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, well, it's pretty preemptive. The first

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Speaker 4: that would mean nobody's going to argue, what are you doing, Kyler?

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Speaker 4: essentially again I'm not absolving the Cardinals of you. When

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Speaker 4: him the ball. But like, it's so much more nuanced

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not just fans citing that Kyle Van Deenbosch, right,

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Speaker 2: one of the Cardinals analysts. Twelve year NFL three time

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Speaker 4: Kurt Warning used to say that he had to learn

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Speaker 2: You know. KVB was like, hey, Calvin Johnson isn't in

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Speaker 4: Although we won't talk about the fact the Lions never

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, did that help? Well, you need more

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Speaker 3: It did feel like a drop off in a sense.

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Speaker 2: It I'm not a single snap in the second half

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to get over my skis about this

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Speaker 4: I am curious to know the extent of the injury

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and because it didn't look, no, it didn't look

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden. As Jonathan Ganner told us after

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Speaker 2: two things that to me, I'm not going to declare

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Speaker 2: Kyler all the way back until I see two things.

439
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 2: Cardinals make those shell coverages, pay the two high safeties,

440
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Speaker 2: and then you just get the downfield passing attack going period.

441
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: The stat and I ripped this off from Craig Griler,

442
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 2: the Cardinals on deep balls those ten plus air yards,

443
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Speaker 2: Cardinals are ZW for six. Forget deep balls, just downfield

444
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 2: passing period has to be restored. I think to the

445
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: Cardinals offense at least before you say, you know what, Okay,

446
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: it's everything it can be.

447
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Speaker 4: But and again that's everybody. I mean, Michael Wilson should

448
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: have made that catch for twenty twenty five yards and

449
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Speaker 4: first play in the final.

450
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Speaker 2: Drive, I mean the kickoff went to the out of bounds.

451
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Speaker 2: You start at the forty and then you had to

452
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Speaker 2: drop on a chunk throat that would have put you

453
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Speaker 2: in the Bills in Bill's territory instantly.

454
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's again, that's tough.

455
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Speaker 2: It's even the ball to Dorch at the very end

456
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Speaker 2: was actually on the money. He's got one hand ripped

457
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Speaker 2: down and he's trying to make a catch with only

458
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Speaker 2: his right arm, but that ball actually was on the money.

459
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Speaker 4: Well, And I know people were trying to figure out

460
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Speaker 4: why you throw it a doors and I think he was.

461
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: He had single coverage. He was the guy with single

462
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Speaker 4: coverage on the when the blitz happened. So I don't

463
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: you know what, again, I don't They got to be better.

464
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: The quarterback also has to be better. But at the

465
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: same time I thought, I thought Kyler played a solid game.

466
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Speaker 3: I also like the way he used his legs. It

467
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: didn't feel like it was forced. That was something that

468
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Speaker 3: we've heard him say of, Yes, he wants to be

469
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Speaker 3: able to use it when he needs to, but doesn't

470
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Speaker 3: want that to be what this offense is relying on

471
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Speaker 3: to be successful. And you got a sense of that

472
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Speaker 3: of when he needed to escape pressure or the lane

473
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: was there for him, he took it. It wasn't forced.

474
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Speaker 4: The twenty whatever yard past twenty four yard pass to

475
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Speaker 4: de Marcado in the first half, yep, that was so

476
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Speaker 4: awesome because Kyler could have run and I think once

477
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Speaker 4: upon a time he would have run, but he decided

478
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Speaker 4: to stay back there and keep waiting, and eventually came

479
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Speaker 4: back around to Amari, who was uncovered and got him

480
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Speaker 4: a twenty four yard pass.

481
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Speaker 2: I don't watch the All twenty two, Danny, You back

482
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Speaker 2: to watching the All twenty two at all.

483
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Speaker 3: Sour subject at the moment, I was able to log

484
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Speaker 3: in on Monday, and then I try to log in

485
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Speaker 3: to watch some things before the podcast on Tuesday, and

486
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: suddenly my login was requiring me to pay. So it's

487
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Speaker 3: something I gotta work figure out.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well sorry, I didn't know that was a

489
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Speaker 2: loaded question. The reason I bringing up is just from

490
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Speaker 2: watching from the sideline, and there's a lot of chaos,

491
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Speaker 2: and sometimes you have the best seats, sometimes you have

492
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Speaker 2: the worst. But there were definitely times where the Bills

493
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: were using a spy, and there are definitely times it

494
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Speaker 2: didn't matter Kyler left the dude in the dust. But

495
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Speaker 2: then I start thinking about after the game, Like Darren says,

496
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Speaker 2: you start to process things. So wait a minute, if

497
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Speaker 2: they had a spy on Kyler and there was extra

498
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Speaker 2: coverage devoted to Marvin Harrison Junior.

499
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Speaker 3: Someone's supposed to be open. The math is not mathing.

500
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Speaker 2: You got to make that defense pay, right, right, So

501
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Speaker 2: I think that's the charge to the offense in week

502
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Speaker 2: two and beyond, and now that.

503
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Speaker 3: They have a look maybe at what defenses are going

504
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Speaker 3: to do to Marvin Hair and maybe that'll give him

505
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Speaker 3: a better idea of what they can do with their

506
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: other weapons and find a way for regardless of who's

507
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Speaker 3: out there, the number of players out there, for Harrison,

508
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Speaker 3: how can you still get him the ball? Because that

509
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: that should be a priority.

510
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Speaker 4: It is funny though you could easily see the way

511
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 4: that game went that if you somehow complete that last

512
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Speaker 4: drive for a touchdown, he doesn't get the ball for

513
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Speaker 4: whatever reason. And where this is such a different discussion

514
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Speaker 4: because then you would have scored thirty seven points, thirty

515
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Speaker 4: eight points, thirty no, what was the final score? Thirty

516
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Speaker 4: thirty four twenty yes, yeah, so you would have scored

517
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Speaker 4: thirty six points and uh, thirty five points. Sorry, I

518
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: can't math, Math isn't mathing. You would have won by

519
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Speaker 4: a point. You would have had four touchdowns without Marvin

520
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Speaker 4: being a factor. And we go back to what Danny

521
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 4: was saying before. Everybody would be.

522
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Speaker 3: Like, see this is it's a win win win, which

523
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Speaker 3: is what it still can be.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know everybody's going to rip on us for

525
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: being a Homer. They're going to listen to this and go,

526
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Speaker 4: you guys don't know what you're talking about.

527
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Speaker 2: So if we look forward, Okay, here, Pauly Pigskin, division

528
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: of Calvic Consulting, says, how about ripping a play page

529
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Speaker 2: right out of the Sean McVay playbook with Cooper Cup

530
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: Do you see this ridiculous stat that in the sunny

531
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Speaker 2: night game against the Lions he traveled a total of

532
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Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty six yards in pre snap motion alone, well,

533
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Speaker 2: the second most in a game by any player since

534
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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. Right, by the way, he had fourteen catches

535
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Speaker 2: on twenty one targets. How about you take that out

536
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: of the Rams playbook and you use that with Marvin

537
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 2: Harrison junior dude constantly in motion.

538
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Speaker 4: Okay, here's my question on that, and I'm being completely

539
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Speaker 4: serious with this. You know how they they track how

540
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Speaker 4: much all these guys run? Yep, because they don't want

541
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Speaker 4: them overdoing it? Are you are? Do you count all

542
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 4: that motion like that's still running?

543
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Speaker 2: Well, what do you mean they don't want them over

544
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Speaker 2: in a game, Like, what do you mean there's limits

545
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: to what? Oh yeah, that you you mean like league

546
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: rules or something?

547
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Speaker 4: What teams teams? It's it's sports science.

548
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Speaker 2: Paul okay. Well, I know mar Marvin's it's his second

549
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: game as a rookies twenty two years old.

550
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm not saying he can't handle it.

551
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Speaker 4: But if you run him that much, like how much

552
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: is he practicing later in the season, Because I'm just saying.

553
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Speaker 2: Well, you know the rookie wall. You know, Paris Johnson

554
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Speaker 2: Junior played every snap of every game last year. You know,

555
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: there's your rookie wall for Paris Johnson Junior. I think

556
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: it's a it's a player by player basis.

557
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Speaker 4: Playing every snap and doing well on every snap or

558
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 4: two totally different subjects.

559
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Speaker 2: Paul Okay, So, now is that a commentary on the play.

560
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Speaker 4: Not a commentary? I think you just you're like you

561
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Speaker 4: you right now? Are I'm saying you're not an analytics

562
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 4: guy at all. No, not really, So I just find

563
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Speaker 4: it as long as you play every play, then that's

564
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Speaker 4: good enough.

565
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's play every play. What I'm saying.

566
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Speaker 2: My point here is that in Any buddy who's watched

567
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: the Cardinals play Cooper Cup knows he's always in motion, right.

568
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 2: It could be a little cheap motion, it could be

569
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: from one side of the field the other that I

570
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: mean every snap he's in a different spot, different launch point.

571
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Sean mcvad does a really good job of

572
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Speaker 2: making him tough to cover. I'm just wondering if you

573
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Speaker 2: can rip that off best practices as you try and

574
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Speaker 2: unlock Marvin Harrison Junior. That's my only point.

575
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Speaker 4: Okay, so I throw that out, And the point I

576
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: was making didn't really necessarily say don't do this with Marvin.

577
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: They could be separate things though.

578
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Speaker 2: So by the way, on the whole Jonah Williams and

579
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: the offensive line thing, yeah, that's a situation to monitor.

580
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: And if it's Kelvin Beacham going forward, is there some

581
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: extra help out there? Not a necessity? Is a tip

582
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: ryman out there's a lot more twelve than thirteen personnels

583
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: if the Cardinals don't use it enough already. But now

584
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: you're keeping in someone to help with the edge. And

585
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: I tell you this much, Jared Bursa had a nice

586
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: game against the best offensive line in the game. The

587
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: Lions boasts the best all the line in the game

588
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: and the nineteenth pick overall, the rookie out of Florida,

589
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: stage j Adverse went out there and he had a

590
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: sack and he had six quarterback pressures. So even though

591
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: they don't have Aaron Donald, they do have the ability

592
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: to get to the quarterback the rams. So we'll see

593
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: about that. How about the Cardinals defense. Give me a

594
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: word or two on the Cardinals defense and what you

595
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: saw there and what do you think Nick Rowlis is,

596
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: how is he looking at this and where's he trying

597
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: to evolve the defense going into week two?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think they they would probably like it

599
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: to execute a little bit. We got a lot of

600
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Speaker 4: quote there was good and bad unquote from Nick Rollis

601
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Speaker 4: whenever you were asking him about and any part of

602
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: the defense, truly, and I think that's fair. I mean,

603
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 4: with all due respect. Again, when I go back to

604
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Speaker 4: the top of what I was saying, I didn't see

605
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Speaker 4: anything that surprised me. Was there anything that surprised.

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Speaker 2: You, Sean Murphy Bunting, I thought, yeah, being a veteran,

607
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of those flags. He's got to

608
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: know better.

609
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: On that, but that's kind of his reputation, is right.

610
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Speaker 1: Not much.

611
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just not up enough on SMB.

612
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Speaker 3: I think there was more. I was pleased to see

613
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: a few splashes. You see the strip sack by defensive

614
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: linemen Roy Lopez and Justin Jones is right there to

615
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: snatch it up and then the Cardinals go down. They

616
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: put three points on the board. Mac Wilson Senior was

617
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: a name where I a couple of times thought that

618
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Speaker 3: that's a good play seeing him very quickly get through

619
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Speaker 3: the gaps and get either to the quarterback get to

620
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Speaker 3: the running back for tackle for loss. I thought that

621
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Speaker 3: seeing Wilson Senior and Kaizer Whiters your linebackers was a

622
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Speaker 3: nice to you the way that they were advertised to

623
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Speaker 3: be this offseason.

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Speaker 4: I think mac Wilson made He played significantly fewer snaps

625
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Speaker 4: than Kayzier and had the same amount of production, which

626
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Speaker 4: that doesn't take anything from Kaizer. I just think mac

627
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Speaker 4: Wilson played pretty well. I'll say this in a nutshell

628
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: for me to defense. Gannon brought it up after the game,

629
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Speaker 4: brought it up again Monday, talking about the pass rush

630
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Speaker 4: and everything. He talked about having a free runner and

631
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Speaker 4: you can't miss those plays that was all on pap

632
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: came on a blitz, had Josh Allen dead rights, but

633
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: kind of like Ryan, I mean, Josh Allen kind of

634
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: moved a little bit, but it was it was almost

635
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 4: like Owen. Papal was running too fast and didn't really

636
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: ever get a great hand on him, but he was

637
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: a free runner.

638
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: You got to break down and make the tackle.

639
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: Again. I look at that play as a microcosm, not

640
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: to jump on Papo, but as a microcosm of this defense.

641
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: You are probably as a unit not strong enough to

642
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: hold teams to fifteen points a game. You have to

643
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: be opportunistic. That means on a play like that, that's

644
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: got to be a sack, just like the Bills drove

645
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: through the Cardinals fairly easily on that one drive, but

646
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: Roy Lopez made it a moot point because he got

647
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 4: there and was opportunistic and they got the turnover. That's

648
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: how this defense is going to succeed. They're not going

649
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: to be awesome in terms of stoning other offenses, but

650
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: they if they get a third and long, they got

651
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: to get off on it. They've got to get some

652
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: turnovers and if you get a free run on a quarterback.

653
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: You got to make it a lot harder on them

654
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: than it was.

655
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Speaker 2: You asked to have anything surprised on the defensive side.

656
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Speaker 2: Can I say in a really good way? Xaving Collins

657
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: called his name a lot during the radio broadcast.

658
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: Shut out a sack. I don't know if you heard

659
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: that point I.

660
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 2: Should have been. I just thought he really it looked

661
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: like he took that next step at that position in

662
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: year two of being the outside linebackers. So I thought

663
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: that was a plus. Buddha Baker was all over the

664
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Speaker 2: field again. I mean between Buddha, Zavin mac Wilson, and

665
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: Kaiser White, you had forty tackles just between those four guys.

666
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: So that was sort of the heartbeat of the defense

667
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: in that regard. Now, as for what we're going to

668
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: see in terms of maybe the cornerback rotation, I am

669
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: curious about that, and especially without Pokin Nakool. What does

670
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: that mean? What can the Cardinals get away with Kien Williams.

671
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: We know what he did last year in a couple

672
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: of games against the Cardinals. There was a reason he

673
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: was the second team All Pro running back beyond Christian

674
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: McCaffrey and some of those numbers from a year ago

675
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: and what he did. In fact, it's right here. I

676
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: jotted it down real quick. You realize in the first

677
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: game against the Cardinals, Kiren Williams twenty for a buck

678
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: fifty eight a touchdown that's eight yards of carry, had

679
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: a long of thirty one. In the second game sixteen

680
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: for one for three that's almost nine yards of carry

681
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: long of fifty six.

682
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: Is my memory serving me correctly? That it was last year?

683
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: Don't remember if it was home or way against the Rams,

684
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: where the Cardinals in the first half kept them pretty

685
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: one dimensional on the air, and then they opened up

686
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: the second half of road game like nine straight run

687
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: plays on a touchdown that in LA.

688
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: That might have been the second game of twenty two.

689
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: I want to say, maybe not, that.

690
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: Was two years ago. I think it was the last year.

691
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: I think they just came out.

692
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: Someone is listening and yelling at me for not having

693
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: a better memory.

694
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, we need to ramp up the

695
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: competitive juices here. We talked about evolving from week one

696
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: to week two, and we're about to experience an addition

697
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: to the game plan. In three to one. It's time

698
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: for the wise guy.

699
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: The World's Bestest Growing Cardinals Quiz Show. The steaks are low,

700
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Speaker 1: the winner gets absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the

701
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Speaker 1: mostess Daddy, sir.

702
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: Right listen, all had applause for me.

703
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 4: That was pretty good.

704
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: Who is the voice guy? That's what I want to know,

705
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: is that Cody.

706
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 3: That's a nice touch by our guys are there on

707
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: the other side of the glass producing this way to

708
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: go Cody.

709
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: And Knowmo I used to co host a radio show

710
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 2: way back in the day by the name of the

711
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: Wise Guys, So I'm having flashback right now. This is

712
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: singular Danny, So do explain what are we trying to

713
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: doat you in here.

714
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: The two of you have been covering this team for

715
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: quite some time, so we're going to keep it enough.

716
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: We're going to keep it Ram centric since that is

717
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: the opponent this week.

718
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: Here we go.

719
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 3: Rules are simple. I'm going to ask each of you

720
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 3: a question trigga question from a Cardinals Rams matchup, and

721
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna keep scor and see who is most knowledgeable.

722
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: It's not just beat l A, it's beat the Bowtox.

723
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: Anyone have a.

724
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: Preference on who goes first. You want to do a

725
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: thumbo go.

726
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: Ahead and give Paul. Paul can go first.

727
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: Wow, great, it's over confidence for beauty. That's over confidence

728
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: by Darren. He's going to pay for that.

729
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: Here we go, Paul. Oh my goodness, I love the details.

730
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: This former fourteen time Pro Bowl defensive tackle for the

731
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 3: Rams ended up starring in TV shows like Petticoat Junction,

732
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: Father Murphy, and Little House on the Prairie. Darren throws

733
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: his arms up. He knows the answer, but it's not

734
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: his question. Paul.

735
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: I could see the guy in Little House in the

736
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: Prairie with the Ingles family and he's got the beard

737
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: and oh my, how long does he get down from five?

738
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, fourteen time pro bowler? Oh two? Okay,

739
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: that was the seventies.

740
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 3: I don't remember, darreny get the opportunity to steal.

741
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 4: That would be Berlin Olsen, correct, waits Merlin or Berlin

742
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: Merlin Merlin?

743
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: Okay, correct, that is correct?

744
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: Yes, dang it.

745
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 3: Question number two this is for me, deliver darn.

746
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: I just couldn't remember.

747
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: The Cardinals clinch the NFC West title in two thousand

748
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: and eight against the Rams and the game punctuated by

749
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 3: a ninety nine yard pick six by cornerback Dominique.

750
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: Rogers Cromarty DRC.

751
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 3: What college did DRC attend.

752
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 4: Is that Tennessee state? Danny?

753
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: That is correct.

754
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: I would have said middle Tennessee.

755
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: So Darren's got it to nothing. Lead Paul, get it

756
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: together in lock in here.

757
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: There were three teams that came back in week one

758
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: from two down two scores. So here we go, Here

759
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: we go.

760
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: You had to bring that up.

761
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: Here we go.

762
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: There were three teams.

763
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 3: This former Saint Louis Cardinals player currently holds the record

764
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: for the longest non scoring play in NFL, his to

765
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: reset against the Rams in nineteen seventy two.

766
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Non scoring play Saint Louis Cardinal nineteen seventy two. So

767
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: if it's the length of the field, I'm going to

768
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: say nineteen Terry Metcalf.

769
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: Come on, Darren is to Steele?

770
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: Is it Bobby Moore? Slash a madra shod.

771
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look through the glass. Do we take slashes?

772
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: We do? We get a thumbs up? Congratulations Darren Amma

773
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 3: shod versus the LA Rams December tenth, All right, nineteen St.

774
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: Louis Rams.

775
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: Just so you know, Bobby Moore is a moderate, That's right.

776
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: The name changed. That's right. Well, I just wanted to

777
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: make sure ninety eight yard pass from Jim hart Almo.

778
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: Do we ask the fourth question or is that a no?

779
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: Let me just say was in the adjoining room when

780
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: you guys were formula.

781
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: Darren actually left the room.

782
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm just sure about it.

783
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 4: I just want everybody to should we do this just

784
00:37:59,600 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 4: for fun?

785
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: Sure? The folks were on and Darren was listening.

786
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 4: Myself, Paul Corro and Dan Zeiger did win the Arizona

787
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 4: State University Sports Trivia Challenge.

788
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: And do we want to do this next question? Or say,

789
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: here's the question, We'll do this next question.

790
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: Darren want to go win or take all the last question?

791
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: Does he.

792
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't know. I know this

793
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 4: is okay?

794
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: Here we got here we go Darren, Yes, winner, take.

795
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: This.

796
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 3: Former Rams defensive end was a finalist for the part

797
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: Sam Alone on Cheers, but ended up starring alongside Stephanie

798
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 3: Kramer as an LAPD homicide detective in an early eighties

799
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: television drawing name the player and the show.

800
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: Oh I know this one fred Dreyer Hunter.

801
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 3: Correct.

802
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: I watched Hunter every week.

803
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so when I was a child, apparently Darrenceman sitting

804
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: around watching a lot of what Nickelodeon and seeing all

805
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: these seventies.

806
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: We already learned about.

807
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: Those were a good question to.

808
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: Ask them about next me, you know, all the family

809
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: like what else?

810
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 4: Yeah?

811
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: Way to go a more questions that.

812
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Was supposed to be football. We're asking about actors in

813
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies in the.

814
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: Part is TV about this? About why that is? I

815
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: know for a fact that these questions, the dates, the answers,

816
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: not a single one of them almost looked up online

817
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: because of his memory and the amount of knowledge he

818
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 3: keeps in his brain that he just knows all of

819
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: these on his own already.

820
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: I know that. Thank you, Thank you everyone. I'd like

821
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 4: to thank the Academy, the hostess, Thank you well, and

822
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: my competitor, Paul Calvicy.

823
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: We'll keep a running record. And Darren wins this round.

824
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,959
Speaker 2: I mean rams trivia. There wasn't a single question about

825
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: Roman Gabriel. I mean, come on, what.

826
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 4: I would have gotten that to Vince Faragama? Do we

827
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 4: want to talk about Vince Paragama? Oh, my goodness, Lawrence McCutcheon,

828
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 4: Do we want to talk about Lawrence McCutcheon.

829
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 2: And I think I used to have that jersey number thirty.

830
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: What number was He's.

831
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 4: Playing a super Bowl with a broken leg, Paul.

832
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,479
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was a defensive guy, yes, Jack young Blood.

833
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: Oh see, all right, little redemption.

834
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: There's no applause for that.

835
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: I was in the other I scored in the other one.

836
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: I don't want Paul going into a show. We're gonna

837
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 4: need him this weekend, Danny.

838
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: He had to rebuild my confidence a little bit with

839
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: a Jack young Blood.

840
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: You'll get him next week.

841
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: Okay.

842
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: Those are the former LA Rams though these are the

843
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: current LA Rams.

844
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: Now yeah, okay, that's uh all right. By the way,

845
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: can I just say if you want an La Rams rant,

846
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: and I'm ready to deliver one after getting beat down

847
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 2: right there? That wasn't just beat La. That was beat

848
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: down La Calvic style, and that trivia. Sean McVay is

849
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: our new coach, double rainbow, is it? Okay? If we're

850
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: just sick and tired, sick and tired of Sean McVay,

851
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: not only his win loss record, which we don't need

852
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: to go into, but you know the soup commercials, we're

853
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: all a sudden. He's America's coach and he's coaching up

854
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: America and he's given PEP talks in the workplace. I

855
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: don't need it.

856
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: Along those lines, Paul, did you see where he not

857
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: only gave up coaching one of the preseason games to

858
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: one of his assistants, so his assistant got a chance,

859
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: but during that game, like did like live interview with

860
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 4: his booth while the game was going on.

861
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: Really, okay, see there's he had another reason. Roger Goodell,

862
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: if you're listening, all right, you need to eliminate one

863
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: more preseason game, just based on what Sean McVay, one

864
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: of the premier head coaches the league, how he treated

865
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: that preseason game. Obviously it's disposable and should be eliminated.

866
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: If he's well, we're not even engaged.

867
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Speaker 4: We're gonna see how good of a coach he is,

868
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: which we all know he's a great coach. But I

869
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: mean they, yeah, they're banged up. The Cardinals want to

870
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: complain about a couple of their injuries that the Rams

871
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: got smoked this weekend in terms of injuries.

872
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I told I told Craig Grielo. I said, you

873
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: know what, when I start whining about, you know, possibly

874
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: losing Jonah Williams and remind me about the state of

875
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: the Rams offensive line. They've lost three maybe four starters

876
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: when you count the suspension as well to their left

877
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: tackle for the first two games. They're down two left tackles.

878
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: They're down to starting interior guard, so their wide receiver.

879
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: So okay, I mean, I mean.

880
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: Let's face it, if we're talking about what this defense

881
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 4: did and what the defensive line might do going forward.

882
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: I know you were saying you want to see maybe

883
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: some more from that, Pall. I mean, this is You're

884
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: not going to have any excuses here.

885
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there are guys there. Put it this way,

886
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: there are players you added to the Cardinals roster you

887
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: didn't get a real good read on in Week one,

888
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: both free agents and rookies correct that you didn't get

889
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: a lot of production out of That's fair for various reasons.

890
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior, Justin Jones, Blall Nichols, Sean Murphy, Bunting.

891
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 2: You know, John Williams got hurt obviously. You know, even

892
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: guys like Tip Ryman seemingly we're quiet now his role

893
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: is in a blocking capacity. Am I breaking down the

894
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: blocking No, I'm not. You know, a Max Melton, right

895
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: Xavier Thomas non factor for the snaps that he played.

896
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: So I would say, you know, in addition to winning

897
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: the game, just first, second, and third on any Power

898
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: poll of wants and needs going into Week two, some

899
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: of these other additions to the team, you'd like to

900
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: see them have some more easily quantifiable, quantifiable contributions.

901
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 3: It's a very different quarterback matchup going from Josh Allen,

902
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: who is very two dimensional to Matthew Stafford, who is

903
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: very not two dimensional. Now that doesn't make Stafford any

904
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: less quarterback. He is big and strong and powerful and accurate,

905
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 3: and defensive coordinator Nick Rolis said himself, doesn't matter how

906
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: hard you hit him or how many times you hit him,

907
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: He's going to get up and he's going to continue

908
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: to make plays. So it's really going to come down

909
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: to tight coverage by your secondary and hopefully not having

910
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: the weapon of Pukunakua, you can really put a lot

911
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: of that attention onto Cooper Cup who would deserve it

912
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: even if Nikula was out there. You need to have

913
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: tight coverage and you need to for Stafford to hang

914
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: on the ball because you know he's not going to

915
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: leave the pocket, so you need to be able to

916
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: force him to hang on the ball to either throw

917
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: a bad throw or get in his face.

918
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: He's uh, he's a hell of a player. And yeah,

919
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: I mean again, that's where this offensive line of the

920
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 4: Rams is. I'm very curious to see what happens there.

921
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: I mean watching the tail end. And we were traveling

922
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: back from Buffalo, the three of us, but watching the

923
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: tail end of that game. The Rams did some things

924
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 4: at the end of that game when they had all

925
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 4: the injuries yep, and no Puka Nakua and that Lion's

926
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: defensive line is no joke. So which speaking of that,

927
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: that's the next team the Cardinals play after the Rams.

928
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: So, but you're right, Dave, Matthew Stafford has some of

929
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: that Carson Palmer in him. He'll hang in the pocket

930
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: to the very last second. He is willing and able

931
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: to take a shot and get the pass away.

932
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: He's not going to get in his head about hanging

933
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: out to the ball and feeling like he needs to

934
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: force it out.

935
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: No, he won't. He won't get skittish in the pocket. No.

936
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: And you know, I took a quick look at his

937
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: staff line against the Cardinals. Since he became the Rams quarterback,

938
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: last year five touchdowns, one pick, is two passer ratings

939
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: one oh seven one twenty one in five games he

940
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: missed one with injury. Five games as Rams starting quarterback

941
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: against the Cardinals, ten touchdowns, two picks. So he's been

942
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 2: very good in this series. In this matchup, he has

943
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: been excellent. And guys you know this, Guys who have

944
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: played with him in Detroit, the matt Praders of the world,

945
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: they rave about him and they think he's underrated. If

946
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was one and most overrated, yeah, Matthew Stafford

947
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: for all the acclaim and the Super Bowl might still

948
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: be underrated. A lot of those guys consider him Patrick

949
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: Mahons before Patrick Mahomes with all the arm talent and

950
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: the arm angles.

951
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: I do think that sometimes people underrate him because I

952
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: think they got he played Detroit for a lot of

953
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 4: mediocre teams. Yep, he did win the Super Bowl, but

954
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: everybody kind of like, I don't know, overlook that a

955
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: little bit or whatever it was. I just know that

956
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 4: the Cardinals have had a recent history of struggles against

957
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: the Rams, and Sean McVay in their own bill thing,

958
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: you're opening, it's your home opener, You're going against a

959
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 4: division fo, you did not win a division game last year.

960
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: This is a game that I may, I know we're

961
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 4: only two games in, becomes very very crucial, and with.

962
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: The Lions coming in arguably a top three team in

963
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: the NFL with the best offensive line in the game,

964
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: right you're this is this becomes a very important game

965
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: in more ways than one. Speaking of games, where did

966
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: we end up in the picks from week one? Please

967
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: don't declare Darren Wind.

968
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: We share that in the podcast last week, right that

969
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: we were going to do that off air, all three

970
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: of us were going to pick games.

971
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, without telling you, without without the Cardinals. Yeah, we

972
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: were picking the games.

973
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: Fifteen games, fifteen games Cardinals.

974
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: We won't do Cardinals games. So uh yeah, so we

975
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 4: had that. So I went ten and five.

976
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: Danny I also went ten and five.

977
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 2: So that was obviously better than Darren because Darren went

978
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: twelve and three.

979
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: So Darren is against you.

980
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: Paul, okay, So, because it can always get worse, it

981
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: just did.

982
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 4: Okay, you know, I'm pretty good about that.

983
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: It's all right, and so once.

984
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: Again, like you know, it's week one, it's okay.

985
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: Off the rest September is in New August is. I

986
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: like to say, you know, you don't get many reps

987
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: in August, so you know there's a lot of things

988
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: you find out about your team and then you make

989
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: adjustments accordingly.

990
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: And system like sixty is the new forty.

991
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: Sort of yeah, I sort of. I went with that

992
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: last year. I know it sounded good. I don't know

993
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: if there's much real truth to it, but I like

994
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: it in these days where a lot of teams who

995
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: don't play a lot of starters in August, I say,

996
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: September is a new one.

997
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: And I will say this, like, I know it sounds hollow,

998
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 4: but I'm stunned that I did that well. I didn't.

999
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't write down who my picks were.

1000
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 4: But like oftentimes, like I'm actually stunned all three of

1001
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 4: us did that well because usually the first week has

1002
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: all these crazy outcomes, which I don't. Does that mean

1003
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 4: there just weren't crazy outcomes?

1004
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be honest. One of mine was Cincinnati,

1005
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: so was.

1006
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 4: One of my losses was definitely since that was crazy.

1007
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the crazy outcome was we actually got more right

1008
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: than wrong. That was the craziness of week one, and

1009
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: that'll do it.

1010
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: No big.

1011
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 3: One is your key?

1012
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: One of them? One of them?

1013
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: What's your key this week?

1014
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: Well, there's three things. There's already named names. But I'm

1015
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: as good as Matthew Stafford is Kyraen Williams. It starts

1016
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: with stopping the run. You couldn't stop the man. A

1017
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: year ago he averaged seven and nine yards of carrying

1018
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: the two games. Stop Kyen Williams.

1019
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: Okay, you forgot this? Cool? Okay, all right, we're one

1020
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 4: thing to wrap up.

1021
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So Danny, you're familiar with this poll here? Uh,

1022
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: this was done by who doesn't matter? You saw this.

1023
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: Online thenders dot com. All right, I got I got

1024
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: an email about.

1025
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: It and they surveyed over three thousand NFL fans. Yes, okay,

1026
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: and the question no, I.

1027
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 4: Don't know how many were actually Cardinal fans.

1028
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. So actually they determined this is the question,

1029
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: what what Airzona Cardinal fans be willing to give up

1030
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: in return for a Super Bowl victory? Okay, Now this

1031
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: is very interesting, Danny, if you want to take the

1032
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: lead on this, go ahead.

1033
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 3: Should I list what the options are?

1034
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, what stands out to you know? Okay?

1035
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: The fact that the highest rated of what a Cardinals

1036
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: fan would give up for the super Bowl is thirty

1037
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: two percent? A date with your celebrity crush. Are we

1038
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: inner the assumption that I'm guaranteed a date with my

1039
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: celebrity crush if I'm willing to give it up, like,

1040
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 3: of course I'm going to vote for that. If that's not.

1041
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: Happening, to know who's your celebrity crush, it's not important.

1042
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: I will say, if I had to agree with any

1043
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: of these, I mean last ever concert of your favorite artists,

1044
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: your honeymoon, family wedding, your own wedding, retirement savings, your

1045
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 3: child being born. I mean, for me, it's pretty easy.

1046
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: I would go at the last ever concert of your

1047
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: favorite artists, which twenty five percent of the fans voted for.

1048
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: Well, like the early ones on, this is like, okay,

1049
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 4: of course you're willing to give up that a winning

1050
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 4: bed of two thousand dollars, So would you be willing

1051
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 4: to give.

1052
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: Up two thousand I already don't have two thousand dollars?

1053
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 4: Then sure, no, don't giving up A family wedding.

1054
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 3: Depends on a family member. Your marriage might be willing.

1055
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 4: You're willing to give up your marriage? How does your

1056
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 4: wife feel about.

1057
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: It, can ask you how does how does giving up

1058
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: a family wedding rate the same as giving up your

1059
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: own wedding? No, here's the here's the bo and giving

1060
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 2: up your marriage all rate at fourteen percent.

1061
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: There are fewer people that are willing to give up

1062
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 4: their annual bonus than your marriage or your own wedding.

1063
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

1064
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: And who are we interviewing here?

1065
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 2: And the fact that they actually put your child being

1066
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: born on this that's just criminal itself because it really

1067
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: exposes the pathological percentage of people. Even you put too

1068
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: much into football period, could give up.

1069
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 4: You don't have two thousand dollars, Danny, how do you

1070
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 4: have any retirement savings? So there's that.

1071
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 2: That's all money. She doesn't know. It just goes and

1072
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 2: automatically automatic deduction.

1073
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: Mineral of a close family member. How can you and

1074
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: good conscience if it's a close family member, vote yes,

1075
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: I'd be willing to give that up for Super Bowl.

1076
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 4: Well, you haven't won a Super Bowl, so you don't know.

1077
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: So these are all points.

1078
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: Would you be willing to give up your honeymoon?

1079
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 3: No?

1080
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: I mean, well, you still have yours to look forward to.

1081
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 4: Ours is all in the past.

1082
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: Anyways, guess what, I'm married, and I still have my

1083
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: honeymoon to look forward to. It's a long story. Don't

1084
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: ask my wife about that one.

1085
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: The next one, before we go, Before we go. Friday night,

1086
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 4: there was a bunch of us at a local sports

1087
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: bar in Buffalo, catching the end of the stream of

1088
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: the Green Bay Philadelphia game.

1089
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 2: Yep.

1090
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 4: And because of how this bar was set up, which

1091
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 4: was pretty full and had a lot of Cardinal people

1092
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 4: at Cardinal fans in.

1093
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: It, Red Sea was all over this Buffalo trip.

1094
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 4: So there was probably about ten of us, twelve of us,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but the only spot that was really

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00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: had any kind of room for us to kind of

1097
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: come together was off the corner of the bar, like

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00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 4: you have the long bar and then it it has

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00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 4: the side. There was a gentleman sitting by himself drinking,

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00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 4: watching the games, and we all kind of just kind

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Speaker 4: of ended up hovering around him.

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00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: You were like eating around him, ordering drinks, talking around him.

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00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: But he had been by himself, and then he definitely

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00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 4: wasn't by himself anymore. So we were there for I

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Speaker 4: don't know it was. We were there for a good

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Speaker 4: half hour forty five minutes and at some point and

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Speaker 4: I and I in my head, I'm thinking, I feel

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00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 4: bad that we're crowding this guy. And at one point

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00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: he turns around he goes, is your name Darren? And

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Speaker 4: I'm like yeah, and he goes, can I get my

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Speaker 4: picture with you? And I and I'm like uh, And

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Speaker 4: before I said anything else, he's like, I listened to

1113
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 4: the podcast all the time, watching the podcast. I love it,

1114
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 4: all this stuff. And I said to him, I said,

1115
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 4: I apologize. I just thought you were a random buffalo

1116
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: person standing here and I felt bad that we were

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00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 4: crowding you. And it turns out he's from Nashville. His

1118
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Speaker 4: name is Dusty, and he came for the game and

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00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: he was there with a buddy, although the buddy decided

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Speaker 4: not to go out, so he was hanging out this thing.

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Speaker 4: So we take a picture and I said, so, you

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00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 4: said you listened to the podcast and he said yes,

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Speaker 4: And I said, do you realize that right there and

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00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: literally Danny was talking to Kyle d'erni right next to him,

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Speaker 4: about a foot away, with her back to him. I said,

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00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 4: that's Danny Surrek right there, and I tapped her on

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00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: the shoulder and he's like, she is and got all

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00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: excited to meet Danny, which all of us do on

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Speaker 4: a daily basis. But so we wanted to shout out, shout.

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Speaker 3: Out for listening and allowing us to evade your space

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00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: at Shot the Bar.

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Speaker 2: But we apologized and you guys picked up his tab

1133
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: as a result of that.

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00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 4: Right, Well, we did not do that next time, although

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00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: I did. I might have. I might have bought some

1136
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 4: Combine remembrance shots for a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of us good times and not Dusty.

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Speaker 4: Well, Dusty wasn't with us at the Combine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't share the same love for screwball.

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Speaker 2: And that's a walk off continent if I've ever heard one.

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