Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hi, is this a gag?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who's this?
Speaker 1: You can call me snail?
Speaker 2: Snail? How are you, Snail?
Speaker 1: I'm great?
Speaker 2: How are you? I'm a gecko on the computer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can tell. Okay, so we're here today.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about my life as
Speaker 1: an adult baby. I don't know, kind of a taboo subject.
Speaker 2: But what do you mean by adult baby?
Speaker 1: So in my free time, I dress up as a baby.
Speaker 1: I have a a daddy currently, and I specifically wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you about I went to a convention
Speaker 1: for adult babies.
Speaker 2: Interesting, So you dress I have a bunch of questions
Speaker 2: for you. So you dress up as a base?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like what is what is the attire? Exactly? It's
Speaker 2: a diaper, it's what is it?
Speaker 1: Everything? Yeah? Diaper? You got onesies, you got you know,
Speaker 1: cute looking shirts you got you know, you got the pacifier,
Speaker 1: you got the bottle everything.
Speaker 2: Okay. So and your daddy, who? Who? Who is your daddy?
Speaker 2: What does he wear? In the equation?
Speaker 1: So he's about you have like two hours away from me,
Speaker 1: so I don't get to see him all that often,
Speaker 1: but my school is close to him. So every time
Speaker 1: I go to school. I will visit him and we uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he'll just kind of take care of me,
Speaker 1: make me feel good. I get a little little teased
Speaker 1: by him. Yeah, it's like part of our dynamic.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He he has a wife, and you know, she doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to give a crap about the whole thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think she thinks it's cute. And they're probably amorous anyway,
Speaker 1: so I don't think they really care.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so is this a sex thing?
Speaker 1: You know what in this current relationship? It is not,
Speaker 1: because in terms of like sex stuff, I'm really only
Speaker 1: into women, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you have this relationship with this daddy
Speaker 2: that is not sexual at.
Speaker 1: All, not sexual at all. I think he wishes it
Speaker 1: would be, but no, it isn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I've I have a bunch of questions for you.
Speaker 2: I want to know this kind of off the bat
Speaker 2: mm hmm. And this is what everyone this is. And
Speaker 2: you know this because I'm sure you've received a fair
Speaker 2: amount of criticism to anyone that you've talked about this
Speaker 2: with in your life. Is that accurate?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had I had a group like it
Speaker 1: was like me and like three friends. We had been
Speaker 1: friends for like years and years, and I told a
Speaker 1: couple of them, the whole group like, disown me, stop
Speaker 1: talking to me.
Speaker 2: So here's the main point of criticism. In my eyes,
Speaker 2: I personally am a big fan of anyone can go
Speaker 2: do anything that they want with their lives. You know,
Speaker 2: you want to go dress up as a baby. It's
Speaker 2: it is what it is. You know, live your life, man.
Speaker 2: But I think the main point of contention is do
Speaker 2: you see a a red flag in a guy who
Speaker 2: is sexually interested in you dressing up as a child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's like a huge point of contention in
Speaker 1: this like community. I mean, and we do have a community.
Speaker 1: You know, there's all these girls on Instagram who have
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of followers and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: and it's it's a big talking point that like it's
Speaker 1: brought up a lot, and you hear these people talking
Speaker 1: about it on their accounts, and I guess you know,
Speaker 1: the answer is, you know, as long as they're going
Speaker 1: for an adult and the adult is consenting, then it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with children. Even though we are
Speaker 1: acting out a childish role play, which I know, like
Speaker 1: is a little I don't know, it's I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's I ahead, go ahead, go ahead, and I'll ask
Speaker 2: my questions later. I want to hear what you have
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I just say that, you know. For me personally,
Speaker 1: I love the feelings that come along with someone like
Speaker 1: babying me, taking care of me, like making sure I'm
Speaker 1: all right all the time, kind of looking after me
Speaker 1: in a sort of way, making me feel small, making
Speaker 1: me feel taken care of. But you know, I do
Speaker 1: have this thought a lot of the time, like like
Speaker 1: like you brought up of you know, is this guy
Speaker 1: looking for a child, and like, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the case, because you know, what he's getting out of
Speaker 1: it isn't like praying on a child's innocence. It's more like,
Speaker 1: oh my, you know, my partner looks really cute dressed
Speaker 1: up like this, and you know, I'm humiliating her. I'm
Speaker 1: making her feel belittled like that kind of thing. It's
Speaker 1: less about the baby aspect and more about the role play,
Speaker 1: if you get what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do get with you, man, It's more about
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a power play type of like
Speaker 2: a role play. Yeah exactly, So has there ever been,
Speaker 2: And I guess not even saying that this is saying something,
Speaker 2: but I don't know, I'm curious what the answer is.
Speaker 2: In this community, have there been people who have been
Speaker 2: kind of outed as like, oh, this person actually is
Speaker 2: a pedophile?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, And I mean I just recently. It's
Speaker 1: a big thing and it happens all the time, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: because you know, there's a lot of people who are
Speaker 1: are not pedophiles of course in this community. But what
Speaker 1: ends up leading pedophiles here is they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I can't get my hands on a real child, I
Speaker 1: guess I'll do with like second best, you know, and
Speaker 1: this becomes their solution, and you know, eventually you kind
Speaker 1: of they get outed somehow, like someone finds child porn
Speaker 1: on their computer or something happens, you know, like but
Speaker 1: I've heard I've heard definitely like a lot of stories
Speaker 1: of that happening in the past, but you know, relatively rare,
Speaker 1: but happens a good amount still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And in this community, how often, uh are is
Speaker 2: this subject talked.
Speaker 1: About fairly fairly often? I would say, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I was just talking like whenever I meet up with
Speaker 1: my friends who are kind of in in this community,
Speaker 1: like it comes up in our conversations. It's it's a
Speaker 1: big I Like I was saying, a big point of
Speaker 1: contention in this community, and like, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people end up talking about it on the big
Speaker 1: abl Instagram accounts and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you? And I kind of
Speaker 2: see for how you've explained it, what you get out
Speaker 2: of it in terms of the dynamic, you know, feeling
Speaker 2: like you're being taken care of. You know, what do
Speaker 2: you what would you want people to know about this
Speaker 2: that you think maybe they are misinformed.
Speaker 4: About Okay, okay, Number one, the the whole idea, Like
Speaker 4: when when people look at this community too often, the
Speaker 4: perception is like these.
Speaker 1: You know, kind of not very good looking, like white
Speaker 1: guys who like to dress up like a baby, and
Speaker 1: they look you know, they look terrible.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You look at them in like these documentaries and videos
Speaker 1: and stuff like this, and you look at them and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I feel bad for this guy.
Speaker 1: Like me, as a person of this community, I look
Speaker 1: at him and I'm like, oh god, I feel sad
Speaker 1: for him, you know, just because so many of them
Speaker 1: don't seem to know how to act like a normal
Speaker 1: human being, like outside of their kink. But also they're
Speaker 1: just you know, they're struggling with loneliness because they have this,
Speaker 1: and I you know, what I have to say is
Speaker 1: like there are so many people who are not that
Speaker 1: like stereotype of our community. There are many many like
Speaker 1: beautiful women in this community, and like there's a ton
Speaker 1: of trans people in this community. It's just it's so
Speaker 1: much more diverse than the stuff that is put on
Speaker 1: the internet about specifically our community.
Speaker 2: Somebody in the chat and I try to read the
Speaker 2: chat very often, but somebody in the chat right that
Speaker 2: it's it's almost like wondering if furries are actually into
Speaker 2: having sex with animals, where it's like, right, they are
Speaker 2: most I assume most of them aren't, but the ones
Speaker 2: at all, I mean, there's got to be a couple
Speaker 2: of people in that community that do want to have
Speaker 2: sex with foxes and shit.
Speaker 1: Exactly. No, I think you're totally right on that point.
Speaker 2: Like it's what I mean, is that like to you?
Speaker 2: But but then to you, is that like I mean
Speaker 2: is that scary to you?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: Is that is I mean, how does that feel that
Speaker 2: you're part of a community that is you know, you
Speaker 2: know that you don't have malicious intentions and that the
Speaker 2: people that you do this with don't have malicious intentions.
Speaker 2: But how does it feel for you knowing that you're
Speaker 2: so deeply entrenched in a community where something like that
Speaker 2: happens all the time?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, it doesn't happen all the time,
Speaker 1: like I said, like it's a part of our community,
Speaker 1: but it's it's relatively rare, and you know, I take
Speaker 1: comfort in knowing that I surround myself with good people
Speaker 1: with good intentions, and like I think that I'm I'm
Speaker 1: very good at sussing that kind of stuff out and
Speaker 1: you know, knowing whether someone's like kind of a weirdo
Speaker 1: or not. And and I feel like you can tell
Speaker 1: with the I don't know, people always want to make
Speaker 1: pedophilia like this uh hidden thing that suddenly gets discovered
Speaker 1: about a person, But I don't know. My personal opinion
Speaker 1: is like I feel like you can tell, you know,
Speaker 1: like there's there's something off, and I feel like I
Speaker 1: have a good sense of that sort of thing, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't really bother me as much.
Speaker 2: Do you ever poop your pants and have somebody clean it?
Speaker 2: For you.
Speaker 1: I have never had that happen personally. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it wouldn't be an interesting experience. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it would be fun. I've never done that,
Speaker 1: but I definitely have feed myself and had someone change me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, is it? Is it a to you? Is
Speaker 2: it a big Is there a big step between peeing
Speaker 2: yourself and pooping yourself? Like, is pooping yourself kind of
Speaker 2: a different level?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely, it's uh. I mean there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people in this community who are like, oh, I
Speaker 1: wear diapers, I see them and I do all that,
Speaker 1: But you know, I would never poop myself. That's absolutely
Speaker 1: disgusting and filthy. And like, I see where they're coming from.
Speaker 2: And I understand why Why is pooping? Why is pooping?
Speaker 2: Why is pooping yourself that much more disgusting than peeing yourself?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, in my mind, you know,
Speaker 1: you're in as you're in as sterile. I mean, at
Speaker 1: least as long as it's in your body, as soon
Speaker 1: as it comes out, it's no longer sterile. But I
Speaker 1: find you'urine to be much less. I don't know, And
Speaker 1: like the thing about poop is that it it sticks everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely disgusting. Like there's just there's a difference. You know,
Speaker 1: Pete doesn't Pe doesn't smell like that. Pee doesn't like
Speaker 1: stick to everything and like make things nasty, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like poopa is just gross stuff. Man.
Speaker 2: You know, I respect that you're willing to defend all
Speaker 2: of your statements at U three. Yeah, you kind of
Speaker 2: have to you at this Are there props and stuff?
Speaker 2: Is there? Do you like shake up?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, rattle and have a binkie and ship I have.
Speaker 1: I think I have two rattles I have. I have
Speaker 1: quite a collection of binkies and or pacifiers. I'd say
Speaker 1: maybe like like twenty or thirty of those. I have
Speaker 1: a big thing for for onesies I have. I've probably
Speaker 1: about like somewhere in between ninety and one hundred and closet.
Speaker 2: You have ninety onesies in your hunt I don't even have.
Speaker 2: I don't I have like three of these gecko suits.
Speaker 2: You have ninety onesies in your closets?
Speaker 1: Yes, somewhere. I mean the last time I counted was
Speaker 1: like a year and a half ago, and I was
Speaker 1: at seventy two. So I'm guessing it's somewhere around there
Speaker 1: now with what I've recrued over the last year and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: How long have you been doing this for?
Speaker 1: So I kind of yeah. My story is basically, I mean,
Speaker 1: as a community, the ABDL community adult baby diaper lover
Speaker 1: community is very you know, they're they're extremely good about
Speaker 1: keeping miners out of the community to an extent where
Speaker 1: they can almost be like really mean and like really
Speaker 1: forceful about it, and so pretty much as soon as
Speaker 1: I turned eighteen is when I started getting into all
Speaker 1: this stuff because you know, I just there was so
Speaker 1: much pushback and I felt like bad about getting involved
Speaker 1: in things before I was actually an adult. But I
Speaker 1: mean I learned around on like forums and stuff and
Speaker 1: you know, looked at pictures, but I never actively became
Speaker 1: a part of this community until I like turned eighteen.
Speaker 2: What is it that drew you to want to be
Speaker 2: doing this like as soon as you possibly could?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know quite where it came from, but
Speaker 1: I just it started for me as like a diaper kink,
Speaker 1: you know, when I turned I say, like when I
Speaker 1: was in middle school, probably around like thirteen, fourteen years old,
Speaker 1: I started to get into this this kink and like
Speaker 1: that's where it started for me, and then like the
Speaker 1: baby stuff came alongside of it. It didn't start with
Speaker 1: the baby stuff. It was more of like I like diapers.
Speaker 1: I think they're hot.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, I want to know about this convention because
Speaker 2: I'm imagining a exhibition floor where there is some fucking
Speaker 2: guy who like his whole like like there's like booths
Speaker 2: and there's like a rattle booth where there's like all
Speaker 2: these premium rattles that you can buy, and like all
Speaker 2: these onesie exhibitors and like binky booths, and like there's
Speaker 2: people who they make a living selling fucking binkies at
Speaker 2: adult baby conventions all across America. Is that accurate? That's
Speaker 2: what I'm imagining.
Speaker 1: You're you're I would say you're halfway accurate. Like there's
Speaker 1: I think the convention I went to, there was probably
Speaker 1: about uh five or six vendors there and they're all
Speaker 1: like they were all the convention doesn't do as much
Speaker 1: of like the independence sellers. They do like the big ones.
Speaker 1: So we had all the big players in the A
Speaker 1: B d L world, which is like a by universe
Speaker 1: tyker bowls rears well, so.
Speaker 2: There are like there are like big you said, you
Speaker 2: said the big players. There are big players that are
Speaker 2: giant brands who specialize in creating baby products for adults.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I'd say Rears is pretty much the biggest one.
Speaker 1: They have a huge You look at their website, they
Speaker 1: have a huge selection of different kind of diapers with different.
Speaker 2: I need to look at this. What is this called?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called uh it's r E A r Z
Speaker 1: dot c A.
Speaker 2: Dude, holy shit, this is a real this is a
Speaker 2: real thing. There's like, well, there's they have they're having
Speaker 2: a Black Friday sale right now. Plates? How they have bibs, bottles?
Speaker 2: Do you drink out of a bottle and ship.
Speaker 1: Sometimes? I mean it's not.
Speaker 2: Calm out of a baby bottle.
Speaker 1: I have never drank come out of a baby bottle.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you do at this convention? Like? What
Speaker 2: are there panels? What? What's going on here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So there's they have what's called the playrooms. And
Speaker 1: the playrooms are just like all these different little rooms
Speaker 1: that are geared towards a different facet of like this lifestyle.
Speaker 1: So you have like the toddler room, you have the
Speaker 1: baby room, you have the like middle room and middles
Speaker 1: are for an explanation, they're like they're they're like like
Speaker 1: adult babies, but they like acting out more of like
Speaker 1: a teenage role if that makes.
Speaker 2: Sense, like like a braddy teen thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And then there's like there's there's a room
Speaker 1: for the furries. Of course, there's there is a large
Speaker 1: furry presence in this community, so that you have they're
Speaker 1: called the diaper fers or the baby furs or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they have their own dedicated space. There's obviously like
Speaker 1: a dark room where if you want to do like
Speaker 1: BDSM stuff, you can go and do that there. And
Speaker 1: they have like you know, people kind of walking around
Speaker 1: the room making sure everyone's being safe.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of drugs and partying at these conventions,
Speaker 1: even like the convention like owners, the people who run it,
Speaker 1: they are they're constantly on drugs during these conventions.
Speaker 2: It's crazy that kind that tracks that makes sense. That
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense to me. What kind of
Speaker 2: drugs are these babies doing?
Speaker 1: I say the most popular ones are like acid, a
Speaker 1: lot of weed.
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine being on ass and walking around and
Speaker 2: seeing a bunch of adult babies running around that would
Speaker 2: be that would be really intense.
Speaker 1: It's it is really intense. I mean, like I remember
Speaker 1: being on acid and just walking through these hallways and
Speaker 1: like I think I had taken a little bit of
Speaker 1: shrooms too, so the hallways like twisting around and there's
Speaker 1: all these people just like walking around wearing diapers and
Speaker 1: like doing baby shit. And then I think we kind
Speaker 1: of ended up cordening ourselves off in this one room
Speaker 1: and we stayed until in there until like one am
Speaker 1: when they kicked us out. But we were playing in
Speaker 1: like this ball pit, which is disgusting. You never go
Speaker 1: in the ball pit at any convention, but especially in
Speaker 1: diaper convention. That was a bad idea on our part.
Speaker 1: It's probably how we got COVID the uh yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just it was it was definitely an experience, and
Speaker 1: when they ended up kicking us out of the room,
Speaker 1: it felt that much more awful being on acid and
Speaker 1: getting like basically kicked out of your like safe spot.
Speaker 2: You know, well what you see what would be horrible
Speaker 2: is is is I think it's one thing to be
Speaker 2: in your diaper with your binkie and your rattle on
Speaker 2: acid at the baby convention, but then getting kicked out
Speaker 2: and now you're just on the streets in a diaper
Speaker 2: with oh.
Speaker 4: No, no no no, not not not kicked on the streets.
Speaker 1: But kicked out of the just kicked out of the playrooms.
Speaker 1: You know, they were like, okay, you can't be in
Speaker 1: it here anymore.
Speaker 2: Closing the pal They didn't playroom look like, is there
Speaker 2: like a slide? Are there monkey bars? Is it like
Speaker 2: is it actually like a playground?
Speaker 1: The one we were in, I think they called it
Speaker 1: the toddler room, and it just had it was like
Speaker 1: very simplistic. There were some like toys and shit scattered around,
Speaker 1: some little like barriers you could put up these like
Speaker 1: boam blocks, and then there was there was a giant
Speaker 1: ball pit covered in like a what do you call it,
Speaker 1: like a like a mesh curtain to kind of keep
Speaker 1: the balls from getting out of the pit. There was
Speaker 1: like a slide you could go down, like a little
Speaker 1: slide that kind of had all these rolling I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've ever seen one of those slides. The playground,
Speaker 1: the house, all the little rollers that you slide down,
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting. But you know, all the room had
Speaker 1: different stuff. Some of them had like actual furniture. There
Speaker 1: was one room that had a giant or three giant
Speaker 1: cribs in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three giant clibs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can you like rent I mean and like you and
Speaker 2: your you guys can like do crib stuff.
Speaker 1: You don't rent it. You just you just use it,
Speaker 1: you know, like they let you use it.
Speaker 2: But you know, you I really wonder, you know, at
Speaker 2: every convention they have like the Allied security people who
Speaker 2: are like just hired to work whatever's going on at
Speaker 2: the convention center that weekend. I really wonder what their
Speaker 2: experience of all of this is.
Speaker 1: So they the security they had hired for the convention
Speaker 1: were actually all people who had like volunteered from the
Speaker 1: community to do the security. I mean, they had some
Speaker 1: like more officially trained security members, but they weren't going
Speaker 1: to be like stepping out and doing anything unless they
Speaker 1: really had to. But you know, the the draw for
Speaker 1: them is if they become a security member, then they
Speaker 1: get to go to the convention for free, and they
Speaker 1: basically you know, they worked like maybe half the day
Speaker 1: and then the other half they get to be part
Speaker 1: of the convention. But the hotel staff was actually really
Speaker 1: interesting because they were all this takes place at a
Speaker 1: hotel by the way, I don't know if I mentioned that,
Speaker 1: and you rent out. They rent out the entire hotel
Speaker 1: for this convention. But the hotel staff, you know, they
Speaker 1: were basically the worst thing is they were told, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're at all comfort uncomfortable with this, you don't
Speaker 1: have to work, and which you know, isn't bad. I
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing that they were given that choice.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, that meant like three quarters
Speaker 1: of the staff dipped out, So we were all stuck
Speaker 1: there with like, you know, seventy.
Speaker 2: Five percent of the staff dipped out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. They like they they totally left. They
Speaker 1: did not want to be a part of this convention
Speaker 1: if they didn't have to be, even though I think
Speaker 1: they were getting paid extra to do it, which is understandable,
Speaker 1: you know, like if you're not into this thing, you
Speaker 1: might not want to go to a convention with a
Speaker 1: bunch of adult babies running around, you know. But there
Speaker 1: was this one staff member who actually got like really
Speaker 1: into the whole thing, and at one point we were
Speaker 1: all sitting in the convention hall. They were like, I
Speaker 1: think they were doing like the talent show we had
Speaker 1: like a talent show that was getting put on, and
Speaker 1: she came into the room with her with her hair
Speaker 1: in pigtails on a tricycle. This is one of the
Speaker 1: just this. The hotel staff came in riding into the
Speaker 1: room on this tricycle with her hair and pigtails, and
Speaker 1: everyone in the room was like, holy shit and started
Speaker 1: clapping for her.
Speaker 2: This is an interesting thing that you're you're a part of.
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Snail, Snail, this is an interesting
Speaker 2: thing that you're a part of here. I I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about it, because I
Speaker 2: think I I I guess when you explained to me
Speaker 2: the idea that it's more about a power dynamic in
Speaker 2: the way that I'm pretty sure a lot of b
Speaker 2: DSM and non traditional sex things are, it makes sense.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't even know if I
Speaker 2: really have to give my opinion. But hmmm, is there
Speaker 2: any other aspect of this that you feel we didn't
Speaker 2: cover that you you wanted to talk about, Snail?
Speaker 1: I guess the one thing I wanted to say was like,
Speaker 1: I just you know, this was my first ever convention
Speaker 1: I had gone to, and you know, if you can
Speaker 1: picture it the kind of sheer awe I had when
Speaker 1: I was sitting in this room when we were doing
Speaker 1: like the opening ceremony for it. We're all sitting on
Speaker 1: the floor. There's probably there's there's literally like fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: people sitting in this convention hall, and they're all dressed
Speaker 1: like babies. And then these the kind of leaders of
Speaker 1: the convention who are dressed like camp counselors, get up
Speaker 1: on the stage and start like leading everything. You know,
Speaker 1: it felt like I was in like a like a
Speaker 1: lucid dream or something. It was. There was absolutely absurd.
Speaker 2: What's the most fucked up thing you've seen at this convention? Like,
Speaker 2: did you see anyone like eat shit out of a
Speaker 2: guy's diaper? No?
Speaker 1: No, So there's like a lot of rules to kind
Speaker 1: of keep that stuff, Like no one's allowed to be
Speaker 1: shitting themselves in the public areas, Like you have to
Speaker 1: do that in your own hotel room. If you're going
Speaker 1: to do it, you can't like be doing that stuff,
Speaker 1: and you can't be like walking around in like a
Speaker 1: disgusting diaper that you haven't taken off in like twelve
Speaker 1: hours or something.
Speaker 6: You know, they have rules about it.
Speaker 1: I'd say the craziest thing I saw. We were on acid.
Speaker 1: My friend, who doesn't speak English very well, kept like
Speaker 1: saying she kept saying like, fuck machine party. She kept saying,
Speaker 1: fuck machine party. And I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Fuck machine party. She took me up to this room,
Speaker 1: someone's hotel room, and we just kind of sat on
Speaker 1: the floor and we were chatting, and in the background,
Speaker 1: this dominatrix is setting up this you know machine. It's
Speaker 1: a fuck machine, which is basically just like a thrusting
Speaker 1: dildo machine, and the she keeps she's uh counting someone's
Speaker 1: ass with it, and she keeps saying, you like that,
Speaker 1: you little flat, You like that, you little whore. And
Speaker 1: we're just sitting there on the floor, just like chatting,
Speaker 1: minding our own business, and this crazy shit is happening
Speaker 1: in the background, you know. And I didn't really think
Speaker 1: about it all the time because I was on acid,
Speaker 1: But like, thinking back to it, that's like one of
Speaker 1: the craziest things I've ever been a part of.
Speaker 2: You weren't thinking about it because you were on acid,
Speaker 2: that would be all I was thinking about.
Speaker 1: No, I was just I was sitting there. We were
Speaker 1: chatting about stuff I glanced over occasionally, but like, I
Speaker 1: think the conversation was more interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, Snell, thanks for sharing this stuff. I feel like
Speaker 2: you don't. It's that I don't assume that you have
Speaker 2: many opportunities to talk about this, uh in your life,
Speaker 2: not at all? It Do you intentionally keep it a secret? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean, like i'd say, you know, the
Speaker 1: only people who know about this are my friends who
Speaker 1: are part of the community, or the one friend that
Speaker 1: I'm extremely close with.
Speaker 2: Do are you like, uh like, do you have a
Speaker 2: significant other at all? I don't, do you? Do you
Speaker 2: does your family know that you're into this? Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, My mom's kind of uh she's she's been in
Speaker 1: my house before and she'snooped around unfortunately, And I think
Speaker 1: her take on it is she just doesn't even want
Speaker 1: to talk about it to me, which is like understandable,
Speaker 1: but it is a little awkward that she knows about it.
Speaker 2: Does that make you like upset that she doesn't want
Speaker 2: to talk about it or do you totally understand why
Speaker 2: she did not want to talk about it?
Speaker 1: Oh? I totally understand. And there's nothing I want less
Speaker 1: than to have a conversation about this ship with my mom.
Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 2: I don't think I mean what I you know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to talk to my mom about my
Speaker 2: regular vanilla sex life, let alone if it involved me
Speaker 2: dressing up as a baby.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people the computersnaiw.
Speaker 1: You know, diapers are great, man, give them a try.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling and sharing, Snell. I appreciate it,
Speaker 2: and good luck to you and all of your or
Speaker 2: baby endeavors.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lyle. All Right, good night, good night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still I'm looking at this fucking website. Uh dude,
Speaker 2: this is a whole. This is a hole, a rabbit
Speaker 2: hole of a thing that you could get into. I'm
Speaker 2: not here to give my opinion on, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: the validity of whatever people are doing. It is interesting
Speaker 2: to think about there there's a whole convention of people.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the average person there is like. And
Speaker 2: I almost kind of wish I would have talked to
Speaker 2: Snail a little bit more, because it's like, is there
Speaker 2: a kind of person that goes to adult baby conventions
Speaker 2: or or when you get down to it and you're
Speaker 2: actually there? Is it all all kinds of folks? Is
Speaker 2: it people who look like you know? Is it your coworkers,
Speaker 2: is it your family? Is it your teacher? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Although you could say the same thing about pedophiles. You
Speaker 2: could say the same thing about pedophiles. What does one
Speaker 2: look like? Like a thin mustache and glasses? No, I
Speaker 2: guess they look like everyone. Anyway, let's take another call.
Speaker 1: Hello, well, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you good?
Speaker 1: Is this Lyle? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who's this?
Speaker 3: Holy crap? Hi, I'm Allison. You sound really different on
Speaker 3: the phone than need do on your stream.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Allison?
Speaker 3: Hi? So this year, last year, I actually spent Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: in a mental hospital.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did they? Was it catered? Was there still?
Speaker 2: Do they still like feed you turkey and mashed potatoes
Speaker 2: and all that stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Surprisingly, it was actually really fucking good, because like, mental
Speaker 3: hospital food is really really really bad. But like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, they like they went all out for Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 3: They had like the straight on. So we just sat
Speaker 3: around at eat turkey and did crosswords. It was great.
Speaker 2: So you're saying the food is typically bad in the
Speaker 2: mental hospital but on Thanksgiving it was pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like shockingly good.
Speaker 2: Interesting. So you're saying that Thanksgiving in a mental hospital
Speaker 2: could be even better than you know, just Thanksgiving at
Speaker 2: my family's house.
Speaker 3: One thousand percent. I So it was the first time
Speaker 3: in my twenty six years of life that I did
Speaker 3: not go home for Thanksgiving, and it was the best
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving I've ever had, ironically enough.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: So it kind of taught me, like, I don't have
Speaker 3: to go home for family holidays if I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Is that do you do you? I mean, these past
Speaker 2: twenty six years that you've been going that you've been
Speaker 2: being home for Thanksgiving, has that been against your will?
Speaker 2: Or have you know, how is your feeling of being home?
Speaker 2: What is your feeling about about about going home?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's complicated, it's yeah, it's kind of been
Speaker 3: against my will. So I grew up on the West
Speaker 3: Coast and I went to another state for college, and
Speaker 3: my parents basically would get me a plane ticket and
Speaker 3: say you're coming home and tell me when I was
Speaker 3: coming home for Thanksgiving, just for any winter break that
Speaker 3: they wanted me there. I wanted to do research and
Speaker 3: stay at the university in the former time, and they
Speaker 3: wouldn't let me. They said, we're not going to help
Speaker 3: you with rent, and I lived in an area that
Speaker 3: was very expensive, so I essentially had to keep going home.
Speaker 3: And then I went to grad school completely on the
Speaker 3: other coast in New York City, and they still wanted
Speaker 3: me home for those holidays, but it was a little
Speaker 3: bit easier to get away from going home. And then
Speaker 3: now that I work full time and have a really
Speaker 3: really terrible vacation time, I literally can't and I mean
Speaker 3: it's a lot harder too. But the mental hospital thing
Speaker 3: kind of solidified it for me last year. And now
Speaker 3: this year, I'm not going back to Oregon for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I stopped.
Speaker 3: We get together once a year and go to a
Speaker 3: lake and I'm not in the summertime and I'm not
Speaker 3: going so did to go last year?
Speaker 2: So listen, So, so you're talking about how you know
Speaker 2: you don't want to go because you want to, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, stay where you were and and do your
Speaker 2: research and all that, But like, what is your relationship
Speaker 2: like with your family?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my dad's abusive. There's not really any way
Speaker 3: to sugarcoat that. I guess he's an alcoholic, he's extremely
Speaker 3: manipulative and emotionally abusive, and some of these circumstances where
Speaker 3: a part of the reason I wasn't the mental healthpittal
Speaker 3: is because I have like really bad PTSD from growing up,
Speaker 3: anxiety depression, borderline personality disorder, and yeah, I just it's
Speaker 3: one of those weird dichotomies where no one ever told me.
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, you don't have to have a real
Speaker 3: relationship with your father.
Speaker 2: What about your mother?
Speaker 3: I love her, I let her to pieces, but she
Speaker 3: basically enabled everything that happened, and so we're close. But
Speaker 3: my therapist doesn't think that's for the best. So it's
Speaker 3: kind of a complicated situation there.
Speaker 2: What did your what did your therapists have to say
Speaker 2: about all of this?
Speaker 3: She thinks it's great. She's been trying to get me
Speaker 3: to like avoid my family for years, She's I've so
Speaker 3: I've been with my therapist for about three years now.
Speaker 3: She's the one that finally got me the diagnoses that
Speaker 3: I needed because I've been mentally ill for like a
Speaker 3: really long time, very very sick for a very long time,
Speaker 3: and I haven't any progress in my life until my
Speaker 3: lowest point last year, when I finally started creating distance
Speaker 3: between myself and my family.
Speaker 2: And so when's the last time, as of today that
Speaker 2: you talked to your family?
Speaker 3: Actually, yesterday my uncle had a heart attack, my dad's brother,
Speaker 3: and it was one of those situations where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I need to be I had that self imposed like
Speaker 3: I need to be a good daughter and call and
Speaker 3: so just kind of checked in on that.
Speaker 2: Do you have siblings at all?
Speaker 1: I do, ye?
Speaker 2: And what's your relationship like with the siblings?
Speaker 3: Used to be really bad. Now we're really close. My
Speaker 3: brother is actually getting married next month, and so yeah,
Speaker 3: he and his fiance, they've been together for about eleven years.
Speaker 3: He got out and actually started improving his mental health
Speaker 3: when he moved away as well for my parents, and
Speaker 3: he doesn't go home for holidays.
Speaker 2: Either, so he cut off the family like a little
Speaker 2: bit before you did. And in terms of his timeline. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And now, because it's interesting because you said now that
Speaker 2: he's getting married and you're could I assume you're going
Speaker 2: to a wedding And I was thinking, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I hope the parents aren't going to be at the
Speaker 2: wedding because that would be a conflict. But it sounds like,
Speaker 2: that's not something you're gonna have to worry about.
Speaker 3: No, he hasn't like quite cut them out, cut them out.
Speaker 3: He just has a healthier distance.
Speaker 2: Okay, So are they going to be at the wedding?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay. And so to that point, what you
Speaker 2: just said, cutting them off versus a healthy distance, where
Speaker 2: are is that sort of how you're looking at it,
Speaker 2: Like you're trying to keep a healthy distance but not
Speaker 2: necessarily cut them off.
Speaker 3: That's kind of where I'm at. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: think I'm scared of the idea of cutting them off.
Speaker 3: I did have a conversation with my mom about a
Speaker 3: month ago where I basically like laid everything out and
Speaker 3: I was like, look like, I don't want to be ungrateful,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be that daughter. But dad is abusive.
Speaker 3: You know it, I know it. It's kind of a fact.
Speaker 3: And I finally got hurt to say like, okay, like
Speaker 3: I won't pressure you to come home anymore. And I
Speaker 3: was really grateful for that, I guess. So basically from
Speaker 3: then on out, like that conversation out, my muntal health's
Speaker 3: got a lot better, my therapist is really happy. I'm
Speaker 3: really proud of that conversation, and I just the only
Speaker 3: time that I've talked to him since then was just say, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You know, our uncle had a heart attack.
Speaker 3: You know, I hope he's doing better. Just drive safe
Speaker 3: when you go to see him.
Speaker 2: And so, So, has this overall been a difficult process
Speaker 2: to you? I mean it kind of sounds like something
Speaker 2: that you've been working on doing for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't know why. I've always had that question,
Speaker 3: like why am I like this? Like why am I
Speaker 3: so depressed and sad? And I didn't really piece it
Speaker 3: together until like really recently in my life it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I have like severe familial trauma, and like it's really
Speaker 3: is as simple as creating my own life. There's a
Speaker 3: portion of time where I thought, Okay, well, if anything
Speaker 3: happens my mom, I'm just going to end my life
Speaker 3: because I don't want to live without her, which is
Speaker 3: obviously really unhealthy and not like a productive thing for
Speaker 3: you know, someone to be kind of thinking. And I
Speaker 3: this time last year, I was just like I kind
Speaker 3: of tried to end my life. I just wasn't having
Speaker 3: a great time. I didn't want to live anymore. And
Speaker 3: I put my foot down. I didn't go. I didn't
Speaker 3: have to go see my family. My mom did come
Speaker 3: and stay with me for a little bit because I
Speaker 3: was very, very very sick for a while, just to
Speaker 3: help me, like get things done around the house. But
Speaker 3: I got friends, I adopted some pets, I quit my job,
Speaker 3: got a new job, and just started living the life
Speaker 3: that I've always wanted for myself.
Speaker 2: And so it's great to hear. Man. I was gonna
Speaker 2: ask you, uh, like before we go, what your uh
Speaker 2: what is your sort of social circle look like? Now?
Speaker 2: Do you do you have a lot of you said
Speaker 2: you have a lot of friends. Are you able to
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, do you have people in
Speaker 2: your life that you know you can you can be
Speaker 2: with or you know, are you are you living a
Speaker 2: life that that is does not feel like it's void
Speaker 2: of of whatever was you know, a family might provide
Speaker 2: if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you for asking. I it's the first
Speaker 3: time in my life that I actually have friends that,
Speaker 3: like I think would be there for me. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I've got I found it. I was really lonely for
Speaker 3: a while because I didn't know anyone in the feat
Speaker 3: and so I went on meetup dot com and I
Speaker 3: found a couple of meetup groups. Yeah, amazing circle that way.
Speaker 3: I recommend anyone everyone yeah is your best friend.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. That's
Speaker 2: my that's I love hearing you say that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: For a lot of reasons. Uh, and I hope uh.
Speaker 2: This is not an ad for meetup dot com. But
Speaker 2: it also it's an official it's an unofficial one because
Speaker 2: I have a very strong belief that, like you know,
Speaker 2: there are so many doomer takes about the Internet, which
Speaker 2: a lot of them are pretty fucking valid, I'll say that,
Speaker 2: but it's here to stay, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: prose to it, which is that the world is more
Speaker 2: interconnected than ever before. And so if you're you know,
Speaker 2: brave enough and willing enough to take the initiative as
Speaker 2: you did, to go on the Internet and go to
Speaker 2: one of these you know, websites like meetup dot com
Speaker 2: or uh like even like Facebook groups and ship like that. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, they're for anyone who's willing to take the
Speaker 2: jump of putting themselves out there. Uh. The the tools
Speaker 2: exist to do that. You know. It's it's less about
Speaker 2: the the how and more about the gusto to actually
Speaker 2: go and do it. And I'm glad that you had that,
Speaker 2: you had that gusto to, you know, go go find
Speaker 2: find a group and and and show up to the
Speaker 2: place and say hi and and that and then everything
Speaker 2: worked out for you because that's a tough thing to do.
Speaker 2: I assume you went up. I assume you went to
Speaker 2: this meetup group alone to meet these people. Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did Facebook groups too, I'm help. My My biggest
Speaker 3: thing is I have really bad social anxiety. My trick
Speaker 3: before going to if you're the same way, is on
Speaker 3: the way, stop to get yourself a coffee. Practice talking
Speaker 3: to the brista and ordering your coffee and just remind
Speaker 3: yourself that talking to people is just like ordering a coffee.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm hmmm hmm. Well, congratulations, Allison. I'm really stoked
Speaker 2: to hear that, and I'm yeah, yeah, I love I
Speaker 2: love the whole thing of of like going out of
Speaker 2: your way to make new friends because it's a tough
Speaker 2: thing to do, and you know, I get a lot
Speaker 2: of calls about it, and it's something that I think
Speaker 2: about a lot in my own life too. Of Like,
Speaker 2: you know, if I moved to a new place or
Speaker 2: did a new thing or whatever, like, how would I
Speaker 2: go about trying to meet people? So kudos to you, Allison.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. While I just want to wish
Speaker 3: everyone a happy holidays. Oh and I want to say
Speaker 3: you had an interview a while back about this person
Speaker 3: that worked at RBS and Chop Chicken and Chop Chicken Land.
Speaker 3: I want to say that I use that phrase with
Speaker 3: my therapist now all the time. I want to say
Speaker 3: that that thank you for what you do, Like that
Speaker 3: really positively affected me and gave me tools to talk
Speaker 3: about how I'm feeling.
Speaker 2: So I'm very sorry.
Speaker 3: What holidays.
Speaker 2: Hey you too, man, you take care all right?
Speaker 3: Thank you as well.
Speaker 2: I know, uh, that was a great call. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: the that was really cool. I liked that she she
Speaker 2: really had an ARC to her that is inspiring. I mean,
Speaker 2: I I I love I love any call that starts
Speaker 2: with you know, I was in the hospital and I
Speaker 2: was depressed, and you know, things were pretty shitty, and
Speaker 2: ends with you know. Now I have all these friends
Speaker 2: and I'm working out on things in a positive way.
Speaker 2: And I just said now that I love calls where
Speaker 2: people talk about being in the hospital. Maybe that came
Speaker 2: off wrong, but you guys know what I'm trying to
Speaker 2: say here. Yeah, I said it a thousand times as well.
Speaker 2: Reiterate like she really took the initiative of like it
Speaker 2: can be so easy to sit at home and not
Speaker 2: want to put yourself out there because it's scary, but
Speaker 2: she did it anyway and it worked. You know, I
Speaker 2: wasn't when I mean she said she had a bunch
Speaker 2: of friends. Now, I wasn't expecting it to like have
Speaker 2: been from such a place of like her taking her
Speaker 2: own initiative to do it. Like you know, sometimes your
Speaker 2: your circle of friends just happens naturally if you're lucky,
Speaker 2: and then other times you got to you know, do
Speaker 2: the work to go form it. So shout out to her, Hey,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 6: Hey, how you doing, buddy? I want to just preface
Speaker 6: and apologize in advance to the audience if they hear
Speaker 6: me like moaning and groaning actually going through an incredible
Speaker 6: amount of pain passing kidney stones right now. So that's
Speaker 6: that's kind of why I wanted to call it, just
Speaker 6: to distract myself and get my mind off the pain
Speaker 6: as much as possible, and rant a little bit about
Speaker 6: America's healthcare system here because it's not been true to
Speaker 6: me the best.
Speaker 2: So the fact that you want to take your mind
Speaker 2: off the pain, does that mean I should not ask
Speaker 2: you about the kidney stones?
Speaker 6: No? No, please do. It's just like to do something
Speaker 6: other than just lay there shaking in pain as a
Speaker 6: huge plus.
Speaker 2: So the kidney stone, that's when you're like peeing rocks
Speaker 2: out of your penis, right, So.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what happens is you get some kind of build up.
Speaker 6: It's usually like calcium or some other material that you're
Speaker 6: kidney's I get. I believe they naturally produce somebody you
Speaker 6: have like an overproduction. And then so a lot of
Speaker 6: people this is like, this is the third time I've
Speaker 6: dealt with this, and this time it's taking I've been
Speaker 6: passing them for three days now, and the first two
Speaker 6: instances they passed within the day. So this is just
Speaker 6: like prolonged health. But a lot of people think that
Speaker 6: the painful part is when it comes out like your peel,
Speaker 6: and that's literally the least painful part of kidney stones.
Speaker 6: It's when it's actually exiting the kidney and the stone
Speaker 6: goes into something called the urorder, and the order connects
Speaker 6: the kidney to the bladder, and then I guess once
Speaker 6: it's in the bladder, you're kind of like in the
Speaker 6: home stretch, but you do get like a lot of
Speaker 6: blood in your ear and depend on depending on the
Speaker 6: size of the stone. But yeah, I waited like a
Speaker 6: whole day thinking I was just gonna pass it from
Speaker 6: home because, like I said, tod ate my first rodeo,
Speaker 6: and the pain just kept intensifying, intensifying. I finally told
Speaker 6: my wife, I'm like, you know, we gotta go to
Speaker 6: the e R. And got admitted and luckily they were,
Speaker 6: you know, really quick to get me into bed and
Speaker 6: start getting pain meds something to me. But they did
Speaker 6: like a CT scan, X ray, blood were e KG,
Speaker 6: all kinds of tests and sorry and hurts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like you're not.
Speaker 6: It's not at all asle It's I wouldn't wish this
Speaker 6: on my worst enemy. Honestly, It's like I talk to women,
Speaker 6: Oh no, dude, it's.
Speaker 2: Who's who's your who's your worst enemy? Devon?
Speaker 6: Luckily I don't have many. I'm kind of keep to myself.
Speaker 2: Uh so, if you've never had a worst enemy, how
Speaker 2: do you know that you wouldn't wish this on them?
Speaker 6: That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I say, wait until I say you wait until somebody
Speaker 2: really fucking crosses you. I guess your worst enemy would
Speaker 2: be the kidney stones themselves. Would you wish that like
Speaker 2: the kidney Would you wish kidney stones upon kidney stones?
Speaker 6: That's fair? Yeah, you know what, those those guys can
Speaker 6: get a taste of their own medicine for once, and.
Speaker 2: Maybe so you would wish it upon your worst I.
Speaker 6: Would, And yeah, you're right analyzing it. Yeah, maybe that's
Speaker 6: why I'm getting the stones. Maybe it's like karma.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's true, it's true. Yeah, so God's
Speaker 2: way of punishing.
Speaker 6: You very well could be because I mean, I've done
Speaker 6: some questionable stuff in my life where I'm sure that
Speaker 6: I've been fucked the pain and hurt on other people,
Speaker 6: and other than this, I've got a pretty cushy, nice life.
Speaker 2: What do you so tell me? So let's elaborate. Hold
Speaker 2: hold me on there real quick. What do you feel
Speaker 2: like you might have done in your life?
Speaker 6: It's like ex girlfriends. I used to think I used
Speaker 6: to think I was like a little player, so you know,
Speaker 6: and growing up on the MySpace and Instagram, you know,
Speaker 6: dropping the d ms, it makes it so easy to
Speaker 6: like be promiscivous. So I'm thinking, you know, possibly those
Speaker 6: occurrences of kind of being in dirt back to the
Speaker 6: women I've dated in the past could be my karma.
Speaker 6: I mean, I've never done anything drastic, like because you know,
Speaker 6: physical harm on someone or stole from someone, or it's
Speaker 6: mostly like lying and cheating, I would say, but I
Speaker 6: think that's a fair amount of dudes these days and
Speaker 6: women for that matter.
Speaker 2: Is it is it weird to me that I feel
Speaker 2: like internalizing this this is crazy? Is it weird to me, Devin,
Speaker 2: that you internalizing this idea even if it's like not true,
Speaker 2: like this idea that you deserve it, Like, doesn't that
Speaker 2: kind of make it better? The idea that like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm experiencing this pain, but at least it's for a
Speaker 2: good reason, you know what I'm saying, Like, if you
Speaker 2: really did feel as though you did something like you
Speaker 2: fucking MySpace too many girls and now you have to
Speaker 2: pay the price for that, and that's your kidney stones,
Speaker 2: like cause at least because if you didn' because it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be it would be worse if you were innocent,
Speaker 2: and this bad thing is happening to this poor innocent
Speaker 2: Devin who never did anything bad ever. But if you
Speaker 2: thought if you were like, I'm a fucking asshole and
Speaker 2: I deserve stones in my penis, it's almost like take yourself,
Speaker 2: like leave your ego out of it, and like just
Speaker 2: look at yourself objectively and you're like, man, I suck.
Speaker 2: I deserve all this pain. Does that like does that
Speaker 2: make it better? Maybe? Am I crazy?
Speaker 6: I mean those are no, those are very valid points.
Speaker 6: I do think. You know, I've been cheated on. It
Speaker 6: doesn't feel great, especially when you're like super into the person.
Speaker 6: But let me tell you, man, just this amount of pain,
Speaker 6: there's like nothing I feel anyone could do short of
Speaker 6: like murder, murdering someone that they would actually like warrant
Speaker 6: how bad this feels. Because it's like the first time
Speaker 6: I've experienced it. I thought I was literally dying, Like
Speaker 6: I called the ambulance and was saying my goodbyes and stuff,
Speaker 6: because it's just like it, you feel like something horribly
Speaker 6: has just gone wrong within your own body. Have no
Speaker 6: idea what it's just intensifying and intensifying. But I don't know, like.
Speaker 2: See Devin, I what about I mean, I think at
Speaker 2: this point we should just make like even if you
Speaker 2: didn't do this, like, let's make up things that you
Speaker 2: did wrong, Like have you ever like pushed a child
Speaker 2: or something like that. Like I'm saying, what, let's let's
Speaker 2: say that you convince yourself that you did, and now
Speaker 2: the kidney stones are punishment for that, like at least
Speaker 2: I was. All I'm saying. All I'm saying is that
Speaker 2: if you convince, if you did, convince yourself that you
Speaker 2: deserved the pain, it would make it better because then
Speaker 2: you'd be like, all right, well, at least this happened
Speaker 2: for a reason.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, right, No, I you know,
Speaker 6: I'm trying perting myself in that headspace. And if I'm like,
Speaker 6: you know, really sold on the idea that this is
Speaker 6: my payment for all the bad jus you I've put
Speaker 6: out in the world, then you know what, if this
Speaker 6: is the price I have to pay to like clear
Speaker 6: up listens if you want to call them that, then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's like when I I'm not like
Speaker 5: a hyper religious person. I don't think like when I die,
Speaker 5: I'm going to be like showing a movie reel of
Speaker 5: everything bad I've done in my life, that kind of thing.
Speaker 6: But if there is something after the after this life,
Speaker 6: and they're like, you know what, you and Jert Chidney
Speaker 6: Stone three times in your life to make up and
Speaker 6: pay your Hey, you pay the price for everything you've
Speaker 6: done so you can come back as like a million
Speaker 6: like the next Elon Musk or something I would happily.
Speaker 2: You know, Devin, do you feel do you feel sufficiently
Speaker 2: distracted from your kidney stones? Dude?
Speaker 6: Absolutely. I'm reading the comments right now. It's pretty hilarious.
Speaker 6: And and someone says something about soda. I'm guilty of that.
Speaker 6: Costco had like a case of the really good coca
Speaker 6: cola from Mexico and the glass bottle of the real
Speaker 6: cane sugar. And you know, when you got a whole
Speaker 6: case of that, you're gonna drink as much as your
Speaker 6: heart desire.
Speaker 2: What causes kidney stones?
Speaker 6: For some people, it is a very big trigger as
Speaker 6: well as like yellow something of another red like the
Speaker 6: food coloring dyes and like mountains Jela like these uh
Speaker 6: these that's it for some people.
Speaker 2: Talk about how if you drink enough mountain dew you
Speaker 2: can't come because we all five like it's ready to sperm.
Speaker 6: Interesting, interestingly enough, one of the prescriptions the doctors wanted
Speaker 6: me to take, which I didn't take because I read
Speaker 6: the potential side effects it does correct because of what
Speaker 6: it does is supposed to make you retain more water
Speaker 6: and have like heavier flow piece to get get more
Speaker 6: pressure in there to eject the kinney zone. But some
Speaker 6: of the side effects were like erection lasting too long
Speaker 6: towards painful you have to go to the doctor, or
Speaker 6: difficulty ejaculating, or prone to more infection. And I'm so
Speaker 6: skeptical of medication because I have been having I'm sorry, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, well, Devin, listen before we go. I want you
Speaker 2: to know something. Maybe maybe this makes you feel better.
Speaker 2: Sure you've your pain that you've shared with us. This
Speaker 2: evening has done us all a service because now everyone
Speaker 2: listening to like, think about this, Devin. Everyone listening to
Speaker 2: this now like whatever. Like let's say somebody was in
Speaker 2: their car and the like say, someone that's listened to
Speaker 2: this in their car right now, and they're like in
Speaker 2: traffic and they're like, so pissed off and upset with
Speaker 2: all the stuff that's going on with their lives. They
Speaker 2: now feel better because at least they don't have kidney stones.
Speaker 2: You gave that. Yeah, that makes.
Speaker 6: You, thanks man, That means a lot coming from you.
Speaker 2: Is there is there anything else that you want to
Speaker 2: say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 6: Take care of yourself. Drink more water, don't drink todas
Speaker 6: or tease everything in moderation. But yeah, take care of
Speaker 6: yourselves because you know, you only get older with time
Speaker 6: and your body starts to break down more and more
Speaker 6: and has less opportunity to recover as it does in
Speaker 6: your youth. And just enjoy that time you have where
Speaker 6: you don't have any thoughts of my health because you know,
Speaker 6: you cross the line where pulses of utmost importance and
Speaker 6: it's something you actually have to invest energy and money into,
Speaker 6: like I've probably invested well over fifteen hundred bucks and
Speaker 6: just going to er visits and doctors just within this
Speaker 6: last month. Unrelated to the kidney stones. But yeah, enjoy
Speaker 6: your youth.
Speaker 2: At least now you have lots of time to you know,
Speaker 2: lay in bed and go on Instagram if you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, oh God, thank you for calling Devin there.
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks, Well, it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2: But I feel like I transition too seamlessly from taking
Speaker 2: things seriously to not taking things seriously that maybe people
Speaker 2: think that I'm being serious when I'm not, whether they
Speaker 2: think I'm not being serious when I am. And I'll
Speaker 2: never tell.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 2: I feel great right now, not having kidney stones. Thank
Speaker 2: you for calling Deren there.
Speaker 1: Remy Ken goes on the line taking your phone calls
Speaker 1: every night.
Speaker 2: The Rep Ken goes doing his night's teaching you loud
Speaker 2: in the middle of your life.
Speaker 6: Money's not really an expert.