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Speaker 1: Patrick gets Unfiltered Waters trembling down from the mountain? Do

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Speaker 1: I stare or jump in? Who knows? That's not a poem,

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Speaker 1: And you guys came up with anymore, Nan, but I

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Speaker 1: love the other Thanks Jay yea. I will not think

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Speaker 1: about that for one second. After the nine. This is

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All Right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday here at Jillette Stadium, and players are back,

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Speaker 1: some of them, a lot of them. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: of players are back for the opening of OTA's They

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Speaker 1: started trickling in yesterday. Uh and if you go to

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Speaker 1: Patriots dot com you can see pictures of that. But

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Speaker 1: they're working out in the weight room in the fieldhouse,

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Speaker 1: no pads, no helmets, just no coaches really strength and

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Speaker 1: conditioning coaches only at this point. Yep. It's a rehab

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Speaker 1: and conditioning exercises, weight training obviously, and some meetings no

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Speaker 1: more than two hours a day for this first phase.

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Speaker 1: They they give three phases to the offseason program. First

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Speaker 1: one you wrote about, which you've wrote about. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the first phase. It's two weeks of basically getting into

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Speaker 1: that that's when we get to OTA practices mini camp.

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Speaker 1: So but it's yeah, it's it's the it's the first

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Speaker 1: so the team building will continue, but this is the

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Speaker 1: first actual preparation. Yeah, like in earnest for twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: So it's fun, it's exciting. It's good to see some

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Speaker 1: of the new guys here. Yeah. Mac Jones is here

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Speaker 1: of course, so good stuff, good stuff. Um. Other news

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Speaker 1: and by the way, it's me and Eric again. Paul

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Speaker 1: and Deuce is still in Vaca, live in the High Life,

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Speaker 1: Mats in the booth literally for Paul. Yeah. Um. Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame nominees came out. Finalists. The finalists, I should say, uh,

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Speaker 1: Vince Wilfork, Logan Mankins, and Mike Rabel. I call Mike

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Speaker 1: Wilfork will win? Of the three, I'd like it to

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Speaker 1: better be better clowns. Screw you? Hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: don't how many years have we been doing this, like

424
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Speaker 1: like twenty somethings. Now we talk about crazy things, especially

425
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Speaker 1: in the off season. Yeah, so screw you, right, I mean,

426
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Speaker 1: I mean bye bye. Yeah you know, I really all

427
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Speaker 1: those tens and tens of thousands of people who love

428
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Speaker 1: tuning in and listening and writing in. Yeah, sometimes we

429
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Speaker 1: get silly, but yeah, you know that's what happens in

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Speaker 1: the off season, and people love that. It's four hours

431
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Speaker 1: in the off season six hours during the season. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what if he what was his name, if

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Speaker 1: he had an email worth reading that he wanted to

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Speaker 1: write in, we'd read it. Right. Rage writes some good emails.

435
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Speaker 1: What can we say? And like Raje from Saint Louis

436
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Speaker 1: is not the only email we read. I don't I

437
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: get to a fraction of them because we get to

438
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Speaker 1: a lot. And I apologize for that. You know, I

439
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: don't get to everybody's email, but you know you read

440
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Speaker 1: the good ones. Yeah, it's like we get we get

441
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Speaker 1: one of those, maybe every every month or two. We

442
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Speaker 1: could cover the team. So about football football, Well, when

443
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Speaker 1: there's nothing football is going on, like there was last week,

444
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah about that this week? Okay, so the guys are back.

445
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: We talk about but it's not like we were there

446
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: with them. You know, Malcolm Butler talk, We talk about that,

447
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: exact brow talks. We'll talk about that. You know, as

448
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: we get closer to the draft, we're gonna do a

449
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: deep dive into We're gonna have who we like. We're

450
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Speaker 1: gonna have three days of shows next Thursday, next Friday,

451
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: next Saturday. We're all we're going to talk about is football.

452
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Speaker 1: During the draft, We're gonna cover every single damn pick

453
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Speaker 1: of the draft. I do have my guy, All you do?

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah for the first pick, well, um, I don't. I'd

455
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: rather him be our second pick or if they trade down, okay,

456
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Speaker 1: take him in the second round. I don't want it,

457
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Speaker 1: you want to give it away, right, No, I'll I'll

458
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Speaker 1: say who I like? Oh, okay, because we usually do

459
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Speaker 1: our picks on the on the website, So I don't

460
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Speaker 1: know if he's like my Justin Jefferson this year Traylan

461
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Speaker 1: Burks from Arkansas. Yeah, i'd like him in the second

462
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Speaker 1: round if we and get him. Okay, Yeah, wide receiver,

463
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Speaker 1: yeah sixty three. Um really can do a lot of things.

464
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Speaker 1: He's like a better nikkil Harry Well. Yeah, but he's versatile.

465
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Speaker 1: I mean he he lines up in the backfield, he's

466
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Speaker 1: all over the place. He lines up in the slot outside,

467
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Speaker 1: good numbers, can you return at all a little bit?

468
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Speaker 1: So he's kind of like Cordarrel Patterson. Yeah. Well, they're

469
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Speaker 1: calling him a bigger Deebo Samuel. Now I don't want

470
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Speaker 1: to go there yet because I think Diego Samuel is

471
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Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL right now. Um, so

472
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Speaker 1: across between Deebo and Cordarrel. Yeah, he's he's he could

473
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Speaker 1: be that guy, you know, like like I was watching

474
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Speaker 1: a lot of his tape. He doesn't always catch the

475
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Speaker 1: ball cleanly, you know, sometimes a little bit, you know,

476
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Speaker 1: so we have to work on that a little bit,

477
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Speaker 1: but he's big. He uses his body, he he uh

478
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Speaker 1: gets open like I said, he can, he can run

479
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Speaker 1: out of the backfield. He's a he's like I think

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Speaker 1: he's like four four four to five, but for a

481
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Speaker 1: guy that's six three yeah. Um, and he's a you know,

482
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Speaker 1: he's sturdy, you know. Um, So he's my guy. I'd

483
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Speaker 1: like to get him in the second round, or if

484
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Speaker 1: they trade down, be one of the second round picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's just an early I've been

486
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Speaker 1: going through. I looked at some wide receiver tape. Um uh,

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Speaker 1: that's really the only tape I've looked at yet. I'm

488
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Speaker 1: gonna go next. I'm going to the linebackers. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: I like the kid out of Georgia. Take your pick, well,

490
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Speaker 1: not not quite the other guy Dean, Yeah yeah, Kobe

491
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Speaker 1: Dean a little bit small, yeah, but fast but fastide.

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Speaker 1: Yeah there's I mean, take your pick on those Georgia defenders.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's you're not gonna miss on one

494
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Speaker 1: of those, I don't think. Yep. So we're gonna, like

495
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Speaker 1: you said, we're gonna get really deep into that next week.

496
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Thursday Night. We're gonna be from seven

497
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Speaker 1: thirty all the way to the end of the first round,

498
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Speaker 1: so whatever, that is probably a four hour show. Yeah,

499
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: and then m Friday, starting at seven, will be on

500
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Speaker 1: for three hours, and then Saturday for two hours in

501
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Speaker 1: the middle of the afternoon. Haven't even eaten he's already

502
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Speaker 1: burpet I said, precursor to what we can expect next week.

503
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Speaker 1: So a lot of a lot of draft stuff next week.

504
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Speaker 1: Paul will be back, Douce will be back, gonna be

505
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Speaker 1: live from the draft party Thursday night, where we'll have

506
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Speaker 1: live interviews with Bill Belichick, Matt grow Robert Kraft. So

507
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great show Thursday night. Any any

508
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Speaker 1: player cameos do we know of? I don't know yet, Okay, Yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: so stay tuned. So that'll be a huge starting at

510
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Speaker 1: seven thirty Thursday night. All right, So let's get to

511
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Speaker 1: our listeners. See what's everyone what everyone's thinking about. We'll

512
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Speaker 1: start with Patty and Agawam on the Ace ticket hout line.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Patty, what's up? Guys? Brat, don't listen to

514
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Speaker 1: that emailer. You know my opinion. One, you're the king

515
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: of all Patriots meeting and you have since ninety four. Hey, listen, best,

516
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: if you hate us, you hate us, not for everybody,

517
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: That's fine, you know, hey, as their Scaldino once said,

518
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: screw you, business leader. Right. Um, So, I just wanted

519
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Speaker 1: to give my my thoughts on the Hall of Fame

520
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: voting uh finalists. I want to vote for Principal Fork,

521
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Speaker 1: but you guys kind of might might have exquayed me

522
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Speaker 1: a little bit more to go a little bit contrarian,

523
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Speaker 1: and I vote for Mike Brable. And I want to

524
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Speaker 1: just bring up one play that kind of gets baby

525
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Speaker 1: has gotten lost in the shovel or you know, just

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Speaker 1: you know lost, but um lost to the sands of time,

527
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Speaker 1: lost to the stands of time. Eric. And it was

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Speaker 1: on Three Games to Glory, Part three, the two thousand

529
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Speaker 1: and four divisional game against the Colts or the Holes

530
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Speaker 1: had had the ball on the goal line and they

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Speaker 1: were they set up a play to go to a

532
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Speaker 1: Dallas Clark and on the play, Rabel absolutely freaking levels them,

533
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Speaker 1: like decleads them, and he was the primary receiver and

534
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Speaker 1: Peyton had home almost actually threw an interception to Eugene

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Speaker 1: Wilson on that play and ultimately they didn't get me

536
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Speaker 1: end zone they had to settle for a field goal.

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Speaker 1: But that play kind of, maybe more so than like

538
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Speaker 1: the pressure on Kurt Warner and the strips back in

539
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl thirty eight, kind of encapsulate Mike Vrabel in

540
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Speaker 1: my opinion. Yeah, how he was. He was able to

541
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Speaker 1: do all those the little things, the dirty work, don't

542
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Speaker 1: matter what, to try and help the team win. That's

543
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Speaker 1: why you guys played me. Yeah, I agree. I mean

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Speaker 1: I nominated Rabel the first year he was eligible just

545
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Speaker 1: for those reasons. I mean, he did whatever was asked

546
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Speaker 1: of him, and he did it at a high level. Football.

547
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: IQ was through the roof. He's got ten receptions, every

548
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: one of them were for touchdowns, you know, So that's

549
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: that's more than a gimmick. When he lines up at

550
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Speaker 1: tight end, you know, ten for ten all touchdowns. That's unbelievable. Um.

551
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Speaker 1: And like you said, he's played inside linebacker, outside linebacker,

552
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: plays well against the run, can rush the passer, can cover,

553
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, disrupt guys on their route. Just just just

554
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Speaker 1: he was a coach on the field and really contributed

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Speaker 1: to winning, you know. Um, So you know, for those

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Speaker 1: reasons I nominated you know second, Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.

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Speaker 1: Always yeah, and that's all I got, all right, thanks Patty. Yeah,

558
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Speaker 1: it's not like Wilf work in and Mankins shouldn't get in,

559
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Speaker 1: but Rabel like he did it all. Yeah. I remember

560
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Speaker 1: that year that they were short on inside linebackers because

561
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Speaker 1: of injuries, and he's not an inside linebacker, but he

562
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Speaker 1: they put him in there said, and he played well, yeah,

563
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, because he was smart. He knew how to yeah,

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Speaker 1: get you know, what do they call it, get through

565
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: the wash there? Yeah, you know, yea in traffic and

566
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Speaker 1: make plays. He was you know, his instincts are. He's

567
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: just very very high football like you right up there

568
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: with you know, Troy Brown, Randy Moss, uh Tom Brady

569
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Speaker 1: in terms of just intelligence on the field. Yeah, you know,

570
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: just a smart, smart football player. And I even remember

571
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Speaker 1: after the oh three Super Bowl we were doing we

572
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Speaker 1: were making the three Games to Glory video and he participated,

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Speaker 1: like helped out. I think we did me him uh

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Speaker 1: Ted Johnson. I think one other we we kind of

575
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Speaker 1: did a director's Cup. Were watched the game and they

576
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Speaker 1: talked about it while we were doing it. Then he

577
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Speaker 1: sat down and looked at some medicine. He was like

578
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Speaker 1: opinionated about about the edits like why why did you

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Speaker 1: do this? Why? I mean, he's just whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: he's he just wants to be He's smart. I have

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Speaker 1: no I have no you know, surprise that he is

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Speaker 1: a good head coach. Yeah, you know, and it didn't

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Speaker 1: take him long. No, you know, he went to Ohio

584
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Speaker 1: State and you know that with sections Yeah, and then

585
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: he was a head coach. You know, I'm not surprised

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Speaker 1: at all his quick ascension yea. And and success. You know,

587
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: you'd have to say he's been successful. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

588
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Speaker 1: especially with that team that came in here in twenty

589
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Speaker 1: nineteen and he got them to the AFC Championship, right, yeah,

590
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Speaker 1: So so that, you know, I hope he gets in.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, it's the fan vote, and I

592
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: think of the three, probably wolf Fork is the most

593
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Speaker 1: popular among the fans. But we'll see Maybee what happens.

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Speaker 1: Ben's in Pittsfield. What's up? Ben? Hey, guys? How you

595
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: doing good? Good? First thing for I know Patty said

596
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: the same thing, but I love the grammar talk if

597
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: it's incredible yeah and everything else, um, but more importantly

598
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: so I was just looking at moscrats and stuff and

599
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Speaker 1: I know quarterback is something that like, it's a position

600
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Speaker 1: if we draft at twenty one, position that could be drafted.

601
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Speaker 1: But I feel like I've heard a lot of conflicting

602
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Speaker 1: things like, um oh, Tren McDuffie or Andrew Booth, do

603
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Speaker 1: you guys have like an opinion as to which one

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Speaker 1: of them you prefer? I don't yet, I have to

605
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: be honest, I haven't really dived into the you know, cornerback.

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Speaker 1: I know that like for example, PF they've got McDuffie

607
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: ray ranked as their eleventh player overall, but he's behind

608
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: am A Gardner, He's behind Derek Stangley at cornerback. Um So,

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Speaker 1: like just from that, if you ended up with him

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Speaker 1: in the second round, that to me, that would be fine.

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Speaker 1: Um I'd be happy with either one, honestly, Ben, I

612
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Speaker 1: mean a quality They're all quality players. Those those those

613
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: top corners that we all that Fred just mentioned. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's the likelihood that either one of them

615
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Speaker 1: is going to be there? I think probably is more likely.

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Speaker 1: Um So I would lean toward him, unless you want

617
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Speaker 1: to trade up, which I'd be fine with that too.

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Speaker 1: Um But any one of those corners, whether it's Elon

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Speaker 1: uh McDuffie, Gardner, Booth, I'll take I'll take those. The

620
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: thing about boot both, Clemson's a good two different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Clemson's a good team, you know. And last year was

622
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Speaker 1: his first year as a starter there, But he had

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Speaker 1: forty six targets, right, and he gave up twenty nine

624
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Speaker 1: catches for three over three hundred yards. So like it's

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00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: not like he stopped everything. There are you know, like

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks like I have to look at Stingley a little

627
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: bit close. Yeah, that's the thing, people, that's what we want.

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Speaker 1: But we're not gonna get that, right, We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get it. Not going to be like the answer to

630
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Speaker 1: all the He's not gonna shut down digs or anyone

631
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: like that, right, And I guarantee a rookie in the NFL,

632
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna get gonna get targeted. You're certainly gonna get targeted.

633
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: You'll get torched. But I'm to get targeted at times.

634
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: He'll look bad, right, you know. Yeah. But and I

635
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: also had um another thought. I know I've called him

636
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: about Metchi before, but I was thinking about it a

637
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: little differently, and I think, Um, so you drafted, when

638
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: you drafted a quarterback, right, like you draft Mac Jones

639
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: at fifteen UM with like the assumption that in the

640
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: future he'll be your starter. Right. Rarely, I feel I

641
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: do teams drafted quarterbacks in the first round without them, yeah,

642
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: being a part of the future. But when you draft

643
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: that quarterback, and especially now with the steam of pairing

644
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: receivers and quarterbacks from college, that window to get a

645
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: receiver that your quarterback played with in college, it's only

646
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: that one year. And I know that, like on the

647
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: board you could have, you know, other wide receivers there.

648
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: But I feel like because you said, like that window

649
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: it's one year maybe too, I'm not really too sure

650
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: about other situations, but that window, you'll never have that

651
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: opportunity again. There will never be another wide receiver on

652
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: the board that played with Mac and college. It's a

653
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: good point, Ben, because these quarterbacks only play one or

654
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: two years now, you know exactly, Yeah, yeah, you know,

655
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: and in ten years down the road, you know there's

656
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: not going to be a wide receiver in the dract.

657
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: Like let's say Mac works out and he's our starter

658
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: for the next decade, right, which would be ideal, But

659
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to have a receiver ten

660
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: years down the road that lade with Mac, you know

661
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like but that but is that a

662
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: relatively new thing? Yeah, though, you know, you get a

663
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: quarterback from the same school, because if you look at

664
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: all the great quarterback wide receiver tandems through history, right,

665
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: they're they're rarely from the same school, right. I think

666
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: it's I think it's very very recent, like the last

667
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: year or two. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think, but

668
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: I think like there's I think, you know, if we're

669
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: let's say, well, you know, he's there at fifty four

670
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people want them to

671
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: a drafting regardless, but like taking into consideration like the

672
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: fact that, um, you know, after after this draft last,

673
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: there's not going to be another receiver that has the

674
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: chemistry that has already been like established with Mac, And

675
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, there could be someone who's

676
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, ranked better, But like, to me, I think

677
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: it'd be a better decision to like I'm not gonna

678
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: say risk because you know, Metchi's a really good player,

679
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: but you know, just you know, you gotta shoot because again,

680
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: like this is that last year like the only year

681
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: that you can Yeah. But yeah, but but they either

682
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: met Yo. Well there, they're not gonna play until, you know,

683
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: maybe end of October November, right, you know Williams. Williams

684
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: got hurt in January, met she got hurt in December.

685
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: But think of it this way, Ben, Think of it

686
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: this way, Ben. Before they got to Alabama, mac Jones

687
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: and Metchi and Williams never played with each other before.

688
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: So they developed a chemistry within a year or so.

689
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Because he was only a starter, like Fred, he was

690
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: only started for a year, maybe a year and change,

691
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: played a few injury, but basically a year and a half.

692
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's give him. Let's call it that. They developed

693
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: a chemistry that quickly. So you bring another receiver in

694
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: through the draft or through free agency and he develops

695
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: with them. I mean, I mean it's not impossible. It's

696
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: not like just because you went to college together, you're

697
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: automatically going to be on the same page. So yeah,

698
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: it's I don't worry about it that just get a

699
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: good receiver. I just get figured out. Like exactly, it

700
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: didn't take long for Randy Moss and Tom Brady to

701
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: develop a chemistry exactly what I was great, exactly what

702
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: I was. Because they're both really good. Yeah, you know,

703
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: I agree on und percent with your point, guys, but

704
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: I would say too, like the team that they were

705
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: on won the national championship, you know, like if it

706
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: was you know, some smaller team, if that's one thing,

707
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: but like Mack and Metchi won the national championship together,

708
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's got to add a little

709
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: bit more, you know, add something else to the mix,

710
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: because you know they're able to like be successful together.

711
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: Granted the Alabama team for stack, but yeah, um, I

712
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: don't know. For all we know they hated each other,

713
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: like no, but I get your point, you know, and

714
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: those windows are so small now, thanks for the call. Then,

715
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: because these quarterbacks are playing one or two years and

716
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: or the receivers are playing right at two years and

717
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: then they're the league. Really yeah, so yeah, um, let's

718
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: see Rashad in Baltimore. What's Upsad? Hey? Hey? Uh, well

719
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: first for me, first addressed, I guess the first email.

720
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: You already know. I love. I love all the topics.

721
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: They don't matter. It's about Patriots, it's about President, it

722
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: don't matter, it's about anything. I love anything. I'll talk about. Well,

723
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: thank you. I want yeah, I want to talk about

724
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: the draft, though, I mean, I definitely think the first

725
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: we we gotta get a defender. I mean, you can

726
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: get a wide receiver in the mid round, second or third,

727
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: but I'm with you, Boo Booth or Elam, those are

728
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: the ones I'm thinking. I'm thinking Trent McDuffie, he's gonna

729
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: be gone. He's gonna be gone early. Probably, Yeah. Three

730
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Speaker 1: cornerback probably taking in a top fifteen pick, Yeah, probably probably.

731
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I think defender, one way

732
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: or the other, whether it's cornerback, linebacker, edge, d line whatever,

733
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: they need a defender, they need, they need to help

734
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: on defense. It's that's glaringly obvious, especially after the last way,

735
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: the last season end of I know, I know there's

736
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: no chance that the pay Riots get him because most

737
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: people think he's might be the top pick. But Aidan

738
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: Hutchinson out of Michigan, I mean, I didn't watch a

739
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: lot of Michigan, but when I did, like that last

740
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: game that he played in the playoffs, I mean, he

741
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: completely disappeared like he was neutralized, you know, And I'm

742
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really a fan of him. I

743
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: don't think really gonna be a late NFL. Yeah, I

744
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: just wonder about him. You know, it would be so

745
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Patriot wouldn't be our luck though, right with after drafting

746
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: all these edge guys from Michigan, he's the one that

747
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: works out and we don't get him, right, Yeah, I

748
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: just I just wonder, like I'm sure he's not even

749
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: gonna you know, the Patriots want to have a sniff

750
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: of him at twenty one, But I just wonder what,

751
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, what he's gonna be when he faces the

752
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: top competition every week. Yeah, I mean that's a risk

753
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: with a lot of these guys who have very little

754
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: experience too. Um. What I'm excited about, more so in

755
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: this draft than than other years, is that there is

756
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: almost no consensus about the top five, yeah to ten.

757
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: Like every draft mock draft, you see, there's a different

758
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: guy at one, there's a different guy at two. Well

759
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: that's what happens when you don't have a lot of

760
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks. Yeah, you know it. Now everyone's like or

761
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: that one premier defensive player right now, like that that uh,

762
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: like what's his name, Mario Williams. Remember back in the

763
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: day when it was him and uh, Reggie Bush and

764
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: they went with they went with Williams, Like, I feel

765
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: like every time I look at a mock draft, I'm

766
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: seeing a different Like it's like a shell game. There's

767
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: a different set of top five guys, different player in

768
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: a different spot every time. That's why I'm interested in

769
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: this draft, dude, because you really don't know where anybody's

770
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: gonna go. Yeah, I like it. That's why I'm excited

771
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: about the first round. Yeah very much. Yeah, Yeah, I'm

772
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the Patriots too. I'm I really hope

773
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: we don't trade back. I'm I'm I'm just trying to

774
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: be like, like, if it happens, I'll be okay with it.

775
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: But I really want them to just draft of player

776
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: in the first round. Let it be an impact player,

777
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: somebody we can if they if they good, we can

778
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: have that fifth year option. Like I'm just trying to

779
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: get some type of impact play because we need something.

780
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's all true, you know the page

781
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: it's people are saying that the Patriots have like over

782
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: one hundred million in cap space next year, So like

783
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: what about like, you know, spending that draft capital next

784
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: year to get guys you want this year in the draft,

785
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: and then next year, you know, use the money for

786
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: free agency, you know, Like I want to say one

787
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: thing about Yeah, I mean, I'm coming around. He he

788
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: he's definitely different. But I don't think the Patriots going

789
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: to get him. I think the Packers are going to

790
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: end up getting him what they u with the second

791
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: of the first okay, yeah, because they need they need somebody. Yeah.

792
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: I just you know, he's my guy. He's the guy

793
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: I you know, I kind of you know, watched all

794
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: this tape and it's like, Okay, this is the guy

795
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: that intrigues me. He's not the best receiver in the draft,

796
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: but he intrigues me. Seems like he could do a

797
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: lot for the Patriots, you know. So all right, Rachean,

798
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: thanks for the call, um um, let's see speaking of things,

799
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: speaking of crazy things, uh, David and leads Uk says

800
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: after last Thursday show, I had no idea what a

801
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: vocal fry was, so I went and looked it up.

802
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: I found a YouTube video where someone has put together

803
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: a full minute of NonStop Kim Kardashian vocal fries. I

804
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: now can't get the insidious, insidious croaking out of my head.

805
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: Thanks a bunch, Fred, I'm glad. I didn't hear that.

806
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's I can't stand it. And like people

807
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: think it's becoming, it's not. It's not it's unbecoming. It's unbecoming.

808
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. It's becoming. It's it's

809
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: a bad effect. Uh, let's go to Spi and Fresno.

810
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: What's up speed? This call pure non football nonsense to

811
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: addrest these men bring it. So I got I got

812
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: some streaming recommendations Fred and another word complaint. But first

813
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: I gotta say I started Severnance over the weekend. Excellent recommendation. Um,

814
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: it's like it kind of like made me think about

815
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: those Charlie Koffman movies like Being Drawn Alkovict for Eternal Sunshine,

816
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: filest Minded or like like Twin Peaks like David Lynch stuff. Yeah,

817
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: just really really interesting, totally recommend Okay, good glad you're

818
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: enjoying it. Yeah, yeah, man, Um, but then to you, uh,

819
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: have you seen have you? I got three shows like

820
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: louder Milk, you've seen that one. It's the guy, the

821
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: the actor from Office Space, Ron Livingston. He's like a

822
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: he plays like this former music critic and like a

823
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: recovering alcoholic who's a substance abuse count counselor. And he's

824
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: just got he's got a terrible attitude. And it's like

825
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: comedy drama type thing, has some great relationships to developed

826
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: A good one son Amazon Prime sounds a lot it is.

827
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: He is kind of like one of those actors. It

828
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: seems like he plays the same guy. Yeah, but it's

829
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: a really good show. Um. The other two one of

830
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: them is it's an older show. It's called Black Books.

831
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: It's like a this British shit come about, like this

832
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: weird bookshop owner. It's really really funny. Um, Fred, I

833
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: think have you never heard of it? Yeah? Yeah, it's

834
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: it's got. It's this bookshop owner, Bernard Black, and he's

835
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: just drinking and smoke all the time. He is this

836
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: quirky assistant. It's it's hilarious. Okay, it's really funny. Where's that?

837
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: And that's that one is also Amazon Prime. And I

838
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: think that both of those you can get, you can

839
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: get without paying. I'm not sure, but I know this

840
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: last one you gotta pay for, but you also absolutely

841
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: have to see it. It's this twenty twenty one British

842
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: drama called Boiling Point. It's it's like an hour and

843
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, but it's all intensely paced and it's all

844
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: in one single shot. It's crazy. It's about this like this,

845
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: this like busy London restaurant on like a crazy night

846
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: where like all these personal and professional crist is kind

847
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: of unfold throughout the evening. But it's all one shows

848
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: like an hour and a half nice all right, boiling

849
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: point okay, boiling but definitely And then my my one

850
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: word complaint, um babe, babe, like just just terms of

851
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: endearment in general, they seemed like cookie cutter and kind

852
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: of conforming weird with like honey, sweetie, deer, smoothy whatever. Yeah,

853
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: but babe is just gross. Well that's Brady, Brady and Edelman. No,

854
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: it's also uh no Gino. We got that geno clip.

855
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: Thanks babe, thanks babe to stick around for a while. Yeah, thanks, babe.

856
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't call anyone babe. No, only only

857
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: that one time when he when he lipped locked with Brady.

858
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: That was right, even then, even then. Now, when Junior

859
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: Sale was on the team, was buddy. Everybody was buddy,

860
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: and if he really liked it was buddy, buddy, right,

861
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: doubled up everybody was buddy because you couldn't remember your

862
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: name either, right, So all right, speed, We're waiting for

863
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: the rules on the spelling the spelling speed, all right,

864
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Tony writes in about Malcolm Butler

865
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: and not playing in the Super Bowl. You don't punish

866
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: the team for any individual's personal transgression, especially in a

867
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, a game which some might never appear in. Again, inexcusable,

868
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: he says, Yeah, I know. We we scratched an old

869
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: woman there. Yeah, sorry, I know. Brandon writes in from Framingham.

870
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: He says, I've been watching Man in the Arena since

871
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: it became available on Hulu. It's obviously a little self serving,

872
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: but I think it's cool to listen to some of

873
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: the offensive og Patriots, original gangs from Patriots, like Bruski

874
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: and Vrabel, and we talk about the team in a

875
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: candid way. It's hard to argue that Tom wouldn't have

876
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: been successful no matter where he went, but I can't

877
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: help but feel like he takes a lot of the

878
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: credit for the teams that Belicher created. I thought it

879
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: was interesting that an episode six, where Brady goes over

880
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen season, he begins it by saying he

881
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: was putting roots down. And then the Patriots draft Garoppolo

882
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: that seemed to really piss him off and was the

883
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: fracturing of the Belichick Brady relationship. In hindsight, was probably

884
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: did help his drive to compete. Something he did not

885
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: include was that after the KC game, Bill was asked

886
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: if he was thinking of a quarterback change, and he

887
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: just scoffed at the question. None of this really matters

888
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: or changes my opinion of anything. But I thought the

889
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: narrative he created on the fourteen season was interesting. Okay,

890
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be another one. I thought they were

891
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: done with that, but there's a finale coming where he

892
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: talks about his departure from New England apparently, Oh yeah, yeah,

893
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: just read about that today, So stay tuned. Does he

894
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Is he going to talk about his near departure or Tampa.

895
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but yeah, I mean, it's so

896
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: funny the outrage, the outrage that happened after that, you know,

897
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: Instagram retirement from him. Well now we know why he

898
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: didn't mention, because this was it was just a leverage play,

899
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yeah, and you know what, I think,

900
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: I went back and looked. I don't think he ever

901
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: used the word retire, retirement. He said, I'm gonna leave. Yeah,

902
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: so that man, I might go into ownership in Miami.

903
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, but crazy, crazy stuff. But

904
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: now he's playing again. Yeah. See. You wonder though, once

905
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: you start thinking about retirement, they say yeah, And that

906
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 1: showed that he was thinking about it. So you wonder

907
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: how he's going to be this year. I'll bet he

908
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: this will be his last year win or lose. Yeah, yep,

909
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that right now. I think this is

910
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: his last year win or lose. Wow, yep. Okay, Now

911
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he may not eventually go to Miami

912
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: and be an owner or somewhere else, or you know,

913
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: what if what if he what if he does go

914
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: to Miami and plays and owns at the same Well,

915
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: then I'm wrong. Then I'm wrong. You know, I wonder,

916
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's something he wants to do. Yeah,

917
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: because a lot of times you hear him say he

918
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: a lot of times he uses the phrase you know,

919
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: there's more, there's more for me to accomplish, or there's

920
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: more for me to do, or whatever he wants to

921
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: be the first player. Maybe maybe that's what he wants

922
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. Um, let's see. Justin in Alabama writes in, uh,

923
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: forget about the emailer from earlier. Doesn't sound like a

924
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: true Patriots fan to me. And if brains were dynamite,

925
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: he could he couldn't blow his nose. Oh uh. I

926
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: have a hypothetical for you. Let's fast forward four years

927
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: and assume that Bill is still the head coach and

928
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 1: Mac is still quarterback looking at a contract extension, which

929
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: means we have had success, maybe even a super Bowl title.

930
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: What will we look back on as the key moment

931
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: or moment decisions that led to our success? Also, Fred,

932
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: is is it nice to be able to compare pleat

933
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: a thought without Paul chiming in? Oh, I know, Paul

934
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: keeps me on my toes. Yeah, it's fine, and I

935
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: love just getting our right. Yeah, and you do it

936
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: very well. Doesn't take much to get under his no. No,

937
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: we both know the buttons. Oh yeah yeah, and in

938
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: any seas you give give like one of us a

939
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: little look or a wink or raise the eyebrow, and

940
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: he knows it's on at that point. Yeah. Yeah, So

941
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: in your scenario, what will have been the key moments

942
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: or decisions that would have, you know, come up with

943
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: that Yes, And I think he's thinking about, like, guys,

944
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: you brought in, will we have brought in that key

945
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Will we have you know, brought in a

946
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: new tackle or short up the offensive line. I think

947
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: it's a skill position guy. I think it's a wide

948
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: receiver because I think you've kind of addressed your tight

949
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: end spot. You know, obviously we'd like to get more

950
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: out of out of Smith Um, but if you get

951
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: Smith Henry together, I think you're pretty settled. The running

952
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: back committee tends to work itself out whoever's back there.

953
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: I think the future looks pretty good with them. You

954
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get the guy who defenses have to

955
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: game plan against at wide receiver and have plenty of

956
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: complimentary players right now, but you you don't have that

957
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: one guy. I think that's the that's gonna be the

958
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: critical thing. Yea Mac grow was saying, if you want

959
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: one of those guys, you gotta be aggressive and go

960
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: get him. So and then you have Dante Scarnecki who

961
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: says that Matt needs his bankie, you know, And and

962
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: these guys know something, you know, Dante Scarnecki has been

963
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: around the game as long as Bill Belichick has literally yeah,

964
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, and so and mostly on the offensive side

965
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: of the ball. So he knows and if he's saying it,

966
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: then there's something to it. Yeah, you know, And so

967
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: maybe that's the key decision or more you know that

968
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: they they bring in that bankie for Mac Jones. Um, yeah,

969
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: they need they need help at that position big time. Yeah,

970
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: that in cornerback and also um, Patrick Mahomes breaks is like, oh,

971
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: come on now, you know, crazy things happen, you know, Yeah,

972
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: but you can't rely on that being the key turner.

973
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: It has to be something the Patriots do internally. Yeah,

974
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: and you know this this so much they got to

975
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: do right now. They got to show up that defense

976
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: they you know, they just have to. But in his scenario,

977
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: if Mac is still here four years from now, yeah,

978
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: Bill still here from four years from now, that means

979
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: they picked up the option. Yeah, and going well enough

980
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: that they wanted to pick up the option. Rom that

981
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be so like, why why did they

982
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: go good? Is this question? What what were the factors

983
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: that made it go good? Yeah? I think they need

984
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: to get the receiver, so they have they have an

985
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: offense that can keep up with these other offenses in

986
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: the AFC, and they improve their defense to the point

987
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: where they can at times shut down or at least

988
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: limit some of those other offenses. Because it's only getting

989
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: more competitive, not less competitive, in this conference. So they

990
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: need to They need more than one thing. They need

991
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: two things, both sides of the ball. Let's see. Chris

992
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: writes in if He's from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. After all

993
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: the Seinfeld references, I finally caved and watched the show amazing.

994
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: I will say the last episode left me kind of met.

995
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: I was wondering what show did you guys love, but

996
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: didn't really like the ending. In my opinion, Breaking Bad

997
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: is the only solid ending to a fantastic show. Also

998
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: side football question, Now the football question question. What's your

999
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: pre draft record for the Patriots season next year? I'm

1000
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: thinking seven and ten to be honest with the defense

1001
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: we have. Uh, I'm gonna right now, I'm gonna say

1002
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: nine and eight. Well, yeah, and mine was eight and

1003
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: nine earlier. I'm gonna stick with that. I mean, DeVante

1004
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: Parker ticks it up just a little bit, but not

1005
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: enough to make it, you know, uh, nine and eight

1006
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: instead of eight and nine. Yeah, but we'll see what

1007
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: happens in the draft, and you know, there's still a

1008
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: lot to go. But that's right now. Yeah, you know

1009
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I hate to say that. I

1010
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong, but yeah, yeah, and again I'm it's

1011
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: not just oh, the Patriots are a bad team. Competition exactly.

1012
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of teams that are right, you know,

1013
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: really good right now, you know in the AFC. It's

1014
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: so that's part of it. That's you know, how I'm

1015
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: factoring in. But things can things can change, and I

1016
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: hope they do. Um, let's go to New Orleans where

1017
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: Jerry's calling in from. What's up Jerry? Yeah, what's up

1018
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: with New Orleans? Uh? Random weather Man, It's it's we

1019
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: got Bible or either here? Okay, Um, so I got

1020
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: a couple got two sections three? All is that? All right? Yeah? Shoot?

1021
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: All right? Cool? Um. With the draft coming up, I

1022
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: can't help the field that we're gonna take a defensive

1023
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: player at twenty one, whether it's a cornerback or linebacker.

1024
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: Take the d n um. With that being said, who

1025
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: are who are some wide receivers, y'all. Could you know

1026
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: who do y'all have y'all's eyes on me? Personally? Is

1027
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: Christian Watson and Met she Bo. I like Watson too.

1028
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: I like Christian Watson. He's another guy on my board.

1029
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: But you mentioned you like the guy from Arkansas I

1030
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: like right now, But Watson I like. I don't. I

1031
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: think he's a little lower on my board than than Burks,

1032
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: but I like him as well. I am, um. He

1033
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: intrigued me. I mean, I don't know if I want

1034
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: anybody in the first round. Quite frankly, Jerry, I think

1035
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: I think you'd be better off getting uh, getting one

1036
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: of those guys in the second round, because I think

1037
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: they're more of him. Yeah, you know, I agree. In

1038
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: terms of wide receiver, I'm not going to get one

1039
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: of the pre premo guys. So either Watson or Burke's

1040
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: second round. Um, you know, in first round, like I

1041
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: mentioned the Kobe Dean from Georgia, he could be available

1042
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: at twenty one. He could be Yeah, I don't. I

1043
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's likely, but I think he could. You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I put the low percentage on that likelihood. But you know,

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Speaker 1: because there could there's probably gonna be a run on cornerbacks,

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Speaker 1: and there's probably gonna be a run on wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: There's always a run on some position. Yeah, inexplicably the

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Speaker 1: linebacker could drop yeah. Fair Um Okay, second question, Um,

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Speaker 1: should know this. Um, it's not Julio, I'll put it

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Speaker 1: that way. M hmm. Calvin Johnson. No, so I'm i'm

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Speaker 1: i'm I'm feeling like it's somebody from like the eighties

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Speaker 1: sure when he played, but I do think it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's around that area, Okay, NFC team, NFC bigger than

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Speaker 1: a bread box, that's like a twenty one Henry Ellard, No,

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Speaker 1: all right, who is it? It's Willie Flipper Anderson and

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Speaker 1: from them from the Rams, right from the Rams. Yeah Rams.

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Speaker 1: He set the record against into the New Orleans Saints

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Speaker 1: three thirty six. Yeah, I picked the wrong ram. I

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Speaker 1: went with Henry Ellard right. I knew it was somebody

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Speaker 1: on the RAMS because I remember the game. Okay, Flipper Anderson. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, you know. I listened to you know Howard

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah absolutely, Yeah, Why why would I

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Speaker 1: I finally got my girlfriend to watch the Marvel series.

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Speaker 1: Just finished Wanda Vision. In return, we also watched Ghost

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Speaker 1: Adventurers and Stranger Things. Those are all different. Ranger Things

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Speaker 1: is at Marvel. Uh. Wanda Vision was really good. Um

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Speaker 1: it was. It took like three or four episodes to

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Speaker 1: understand what would the hell was going on? But once

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Speaker 1: you did, it was an excellent story. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was well done. Is it its own self contained series? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the series is self contained, but you can find out

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Speaker 1: the further events in the upcoming Doctor Strange movie on

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Speaker 1: May fifth. Oh so it is part of the Marvel.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, part of the Marvel Oh it is? Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: absolutely but really excellent, excellent. Well didn't you think that

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Speaker 1: was well done? Well written. One division has been my

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Speaker 1: favorite out of the Disney Plus show so far was

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Speaker 1: that Paul Bettany who played in the He played the vision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Who was Wanda Elizabeth Olsen little sister? Oh okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would highly recommend that. Like the first couple episodes, episodes,

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Speaker 1: you'd be like, what are they doing here? But then

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Speaker 1: you know, you learn more and it's like it totally

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Speaker 1: makes sense. What's going on? So very good, very good.

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Speaker 1: Bill and Boseman writes in about the Hall of Fame finalists,

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Speaker 1: I agree that all three deserve to be in the

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Speaker 1: Patriots Hall. But for me, Big Vince is a no

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Speaker 1: brainer for this year. He was a great player, great

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Speaker 1: Patriot leader with a big heart and big personality. I

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Speaker 1: think the Patriots Hall folks need to have that extra

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Speaker 1: non football element that ties them to the legacy of

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Speaker 1: the team. I know Paul isn't here to argue against that.

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Speaker 1: I also have maybe an irrational reason to not pick

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Speaker 1: Vrabel right now, and that's just because he's still in

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Speaker 1: the league as a coach for another team. He definitely

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Speaker 1: deserves it, but maybe it can wait a while. It

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Speaker 1: has waited a while. Pretty soon he's not gonna pick

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Speaker 1: up the phone. I get that, you know, like, if

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Speaker 1: if Rabel does get in the like, you know, you

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Speaker 1: can't have different type of ceremony. Yeah, you can't have

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Speaker 1: him back for a game and all that stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that should be the factor. No,

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't, you know. I don't think that he's deserving

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Speaker 1: of getting in. He should get in and then you

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Speaker 1: worry about those particulars later. Yep, um, let's see. Yan

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Speaker 1: from Prague, Czechoslovakia writes in just listening to Thursday Show

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Speaker 1: and so far you could not mention any of my

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Speaker 1: favorite stand up comedians. So do you love them or

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Speaker 1: hate them? Jim Jeffries don't know him, don't know Ricky

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Speaker 1: Gervais him, love him, Louis c k loved him until

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Speaker 1: he had his thing and now he doesn't do much right?

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Speaker 1: Or is he back on tour? I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a I was never a fan of it, but

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Speaker 1: he was he was funny. Oh you didn't you didn't

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Speaker 1: like him. I didn't care for him really why. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. He just his type of you know series,

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Speaker 1: the show that he had on TV. No, he was

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Speaker 1: really good. He was on the top and he blew it.

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Speaker 1: You know, he he could have done anything. Jimmy Carr

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Speaker 1: I don't know him either. That name sounds a little famliar,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. No, I can't place him. Bill Burr

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Speaker 1: is appearing locally. He's at Fenway Park. He's gonna oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: a show at Fenway Park. Oh really a show? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, he's gonna fill that Stanton. Well that's

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Speaker 1: the question, really, yeah, that's the question. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: So Bill Bird's gonna be at Fenway Park. Ricky's yourvass

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Speaker 1: made some good series too. Have you ever watched any

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Speaker 1: of his series? He's he's funny as hell. I mean

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Speaker 1: he was the originator of the Office. Yeah. So when

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Speaker 1: he sold it to NBC, excuse me, for sure, he

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Speaker 1: breaked in a bunch of dough yeah from that, um,

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Speaker 1: but he did it. I think they did twelve episodes

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Speaker 1: of the British version. Yeah, and it was just laugh

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Speaker 1: out loud, funny. Yeah. Uh. And then he did another

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Speaker 1: series called Extras where he and a couple of his

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Speaker 1: friends on the show were trying to be actors, so

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Speaker 1: they would show up as extras for all these movie

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Speaker 1: things and they would get to meet all these like

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Speaker 1: like actual actors that were playing themselves, Like Kate Winslett

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Speaker 1: played herself. Yeah, but like like like a fictionalized version

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Speaker 1: of herself where she was like, you know, over dramatic

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Speaker 1: and whatever. But that was a good concept. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: good way to like bring in stars every week exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good vehicle. Uh yeah, he's he's really funny. Ricky Gervais.

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Speaker 1: Sean's in Vancouver. What's up Sean? Okay, a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: So you guys are doing three shows next week for

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Speaker 1: the draft. Does that mean that there's no show on Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: The amazing Yeah. The question I have is, in terms

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Speaker 1: of our first round, let's say some players fall like Um.

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Speaker 1: Of all these players, which one would you want the

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Speaker 1: most of any of the four receivers like London Wilson

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Speaker 1: Williams or a lave or m Georgia nose tackle Jordan

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Speaker 1: Davis Um linebacker Devin Lloyd, Um Florida State edge Jermaine

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Speaker 1: Johnson or cornerback Trent McDuffie. Which one of those guys

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Speaker 1: would you hope falls the most. Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy that I know it's boring, but

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Speaker 1: guy no, the Alabama tackle the offensive alignment. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be something. I mean, I wasn't I wasn't

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Speaker 1: thinking of anyone like that that would be top five.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously grab him. I was thinking of guys

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Speaker 1: that might have might have a chance. See, I think

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Speaker 1: Williams has a chance. I think Williams, Williams has a

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Speaker 1: chance to fall. Yeah, you know, so that would be

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Speaker 1: your player jameson william Yeah, I think so. If if

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Speaker 1: he's a twenty one, you gotta get him, even if

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna play this year. Um, Like, like I said,

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Speaker 1: he got hurt in January. Yeah, so what do they say,

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Speaker 1: like nine months now? Probably you know that puts him

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Speaker 1: into late October and then they're never the same for

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Speaker 1: that first first year. So you know, what you get

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Speaker 1: out of him this year is questionable. But man, it's

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Speaker 1: a long term investment. It's it's it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a risk. But man, if he's right, there's your connection. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I mean he's got probably the best opportunity to

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Speaker 1: become a Hall of Famer on the long run stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I would I would answer your question directly, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I would say the Georgia guy Davis. Yeah, if he

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Speaker 1: felt I would, I would definitely take him. Here, you're

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Speaker 1: looking at somewhat of like a Wilfork type. Not quite

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Speaker 1: as big as Wilfork, I don't think, but um, that

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Speaker 1: type of player, like a big, powerful defensive lineman in

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Speaker 1: the middle, especially with the way they've gotten run on

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Speaker 1: in the past few years. They need to need to

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Speaker 1: stop the bleeding there. Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely that guy

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Speaker 1: in the middle. Yeah. All right, Well thanks a lot, Paul,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Sean, appreciate it. Um, let's get back to some

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Speaker 1: of these emails. Uh, let's see Wand from Stratford has

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Speaker 1: a trade package for wide receiver. First, he says, screw

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Speaker 1: that hater email you just read earlier, you guys rock

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Speaker 1: on a different note, seeing the latest news on Deebo,

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Speaker 1: Samuel Terry McLaurin, and A J. Brown contract issues, would

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Speaker 1: you package a deal to trade for any one of

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Speaker 1: those three wide receivers and what would that package look

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Speaker 1: like that's the thing, you know, Deebo Samuel is looking

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Speaker 1: for twenty five million a year and that's the going

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Speaker 1: rate for good. So you're packaging up assets and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to pay the guy. Yeah, I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they have enough assets to well,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you'd have to dip into twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three probably yeah, you know, um, like he was like

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Speaker 1: the ceiling so high on him. But think about it,

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Speaker 1: like you what player on this team would be so

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Speaker 1: attractive to another team that they'd picks? Yeah? Yeah, you'd

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Speaker 1: have to give up two draft picks, probably one this year,

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Speaker 1: one next year, and to kill Harry No, I no,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it's the price is so

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Speaker 1: high for a guy like that. Um, to me, McLaurin

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Speaker 1: and Brown aren't as good, so maybe you wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: to give it much for those two. But um. Still,

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Speaker 1: you know, these are the impact wide receivers that mac

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Speaker 1: gill's talking about. You know, you've got to be aggressive

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Speaker 1: if you want to get them. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about it, like, you know, the Patriots haven't really

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Speaker 1: drafted a lot of wide receivers in the first round.

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Speaker 1: You know, they did with Harry Um, but it's not

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Speaker 1: often that they do. And obviously they haven't drafted any

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the first round right under Belichick under Belichick

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Speaker 1: and I think since other than that, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just guessing here, but you know, drafting those high

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Speaker 1: impact positions in the first round, like you know, quarterback, cornerback,

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Speaker 1: you know, edge edge rusher, and receiver, it's tough because

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Speaker 1: if they are good, their second contract is huge, huge,

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01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:44,480
Speaker 1: as opposed to like lineman or interior defensive guys or linebackers,

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Speaker 1: their quarter their second contracts are a little bit more manageable.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're still getting big though, like oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, look at uh yeah the money he got, well,

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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots screwed that up. I don't know

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: why they offered him a franchise tag. You know, he's listen,

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. I think he's overpaid, you know,

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Speaker 1: because of that. You know, but it's when you when

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Speaker 1: you draft those those impact positions, be prepared to show

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01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to if they're good, and

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01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: you hope they're good because they were your first round pick.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna cost you a lot of money, you know,

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Speaker 1: And that was the whole thing between Peyton Manning and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Peyton Manning was a first round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Brady was a six round draft pick. And I remember

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Speaker 1: at the time, when you know, it was time for

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Speaker 1: Brady's you know, extension, there was a lot of talk about, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be where Manning is, and I think

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01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: the team was arguing, well, no, you know, Manning started

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Speaker 1: from you know, a number, you know, number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: and Brady you're starting from a sixth round and Brady's

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Speaker 1: camp was, well, it doesn't matter. He's just as good

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01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 1: now what matters, Yeah, it doesn't matter where he was drafted.

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Speaker 1: And that I think that was you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the back and forth between Don Yee and the team

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01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: at the time is you know, he's not starting from

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Speaker 1: a first round position, you know. Yeah, And because they

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Speaker 1: don't go down, the contracts don't go down, I can

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01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,799
Speaker 1: only go up. You know. It's funny because Bill always

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Speaker 1: likes to say about players, whether they're undrafted or tryouts

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Speaker 1: or first round picks, it doesn't matter how you got here,

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: it's what you do once you get here. Right, how

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Speaker 1: come that doesn't apply when it comes to contracts. He did,

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Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, he's fine. Jack writes in for me, Annaba,

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01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: I listened to your show because you provide interesting information

1441
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: about the Patriots in an entertaining and sometimes humorous manner,

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01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: especially like your imitation of the cheesy sideline reporter who

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01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: covered the joint practices at Detroit. He does. He does

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01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 1: the pregame, their pregame show on the big their job,

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01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, welcome in game between the vegans

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01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: and the lions. And that's not an exaggeration, it really isn't.

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01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 1: And if you're a lie, don't forget to visit the

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Speaker 1: concession stands. Well, you get it. We've got a lot

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01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: of specials today is great. Oh my god. If you

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01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: get it an hour early, you get a free hot dog.

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Speaker 1: Condiments are free, come with the whole. He said something else.

1452
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, um hot dogs. Justin writes in, I

1453
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: don't know if he's from England or his last name

1454
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: is England. Okay, he's just in England. Yeah, quick game

1455
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: for you guys. Uh, not football related. Which do you

1456
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: prefer one Ford or Chevy for a truck? I don't know.

1457
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: They're both made in America, so can't go wrong. Oh boy, okay,

1458
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: mister Patriot, I don't know's I never one? Yeah, I

1459
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: would like to have a pickup truck though, just for well,

1460
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: I want to get an electric one. That's my next car.

1461
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: Do they make electric page they are starting to Who

1462
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: does for Chevy? Both of them do? Yeah. Yeah. I

1463
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: don't know if they're available yet though, that's the thing,

1464
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be freaking expensive. I'm gonna figure what

1465
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 1: bank I'm gonna rob to get it. Um uh, pop

1466
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: tarts or Cereal for breakfast? Oh? Cereal? Yeah, I mean

1467
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: when I was when I was younger, I used to

1468
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: love pop tarts though I did joy, but not the

1469
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: frosted ones. Yeah, I used to have the frosted ones.

1470
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: Nike or Adidas, Oh you say that very quickly. Oh yeah,

1471
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: I've always been a Nike guy ever since I was

1472
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: ever tried Adidas, Uh tried them on? Yeah? No, I

1473
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: just never like a look. I didn't like the look.

1474
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go. Nike makes the best

1475
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: products when it comes to sporting equipment. I disagree. I disagree.

1476
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 1: It depends on what you're doing, Like, are you playing tennis?

1477
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: Are you running are you? But like if Hoka, everybody's Hooka,

1478
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: everybody is being Hoca. Now you see the why the

1479
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: thick souls? Now all the all the brands have them. Nike,

1480
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: they all have them. Hoka started it. Yeah, one of

1481
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: the most comfortable sneakers out there. Where are they from?

1482
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: I don't know whether I mean then why don't they're America?

1483
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: But you buy them everywhere. I never heard of Hoka

1484
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: Hoka h Oka yep ye. One of the most comfortable

1485
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: sneakers you can buy. And you know everyone's copying them now.

1486
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: But you you're you need to expand your um my

1487
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: clothing horizons. Absolutely, It's it's not all about Nike's got

1488
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: some good products, but there's there's some other Like if

1489
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: you're a runner, like some runners swear by A six

1490
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I I liked using Nike for everything

1491
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: running well, just regular regular wear every day where for

1492
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: crying out loud, NFL loves them. They make all the jerseys. Yeah,

1493
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: because they paid. They are good though, um but there's

1494
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: some good sneakers out there besides Nike, uh Coke or

1495
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: Pepsi for drinks. Couldn't have disagree more Pepsi's for children,

1496
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: Coke Focus for adults. That's the guy who ordered off

1497
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 1: the kid's menu today, Cocus for adults. When it comes

1498
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 1: to the straight up. Now, if you go diet diet

1499
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: pepsis better than diet Coke, They're both better, but Coke

1500
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: Cocus is for real. Coke had to change their formula

1501
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: to compete with Pepsis, and then they went, no Pepsi's

1502
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 1: for kids, uh, DC or Marvel for superhero I defer

1503
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 1: to Matt Marine Corp. Matt and that he was okay

1504
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: to like them all. But if you had to choose,

1505
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 1: play the game, true geek, Yeah, play the game. Yeah,

1506
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Batman and Superman, you can't go you can't go wrong

1507
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 1: with them. You know who has the bigger universe is

1508
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: a Marvel. I think Marvel has more characters. Yeah, character wiser,

1509
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: they have the bigger universe probably, but I mean comic wise,

1510
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: there's a ton of characters both ways. Yeah, yeah, I

1511
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: just Batman is Superman to me or the elite. I mean,

1512
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: spider Man's great too. In the Hulk, I love the

1513
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: Hulk as well, but those are the you know, if

1514
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,839
Speaker 1: you're looking at the mount Rushmore of superheroes, it starts

1515
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 1: with Batman. It's Superman, don't you think. Yeah, I agree.

1516
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: That's why I say deferred to him on this. Spielberg

1517
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: or John Hughes as a movie to watch. Spielberg probably, Yeah,

1518
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 1: I guess, so I know John. I've seen John Hughes movies. Um,

1519
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: but like I can't remember which ones they were. You know,

1520
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: he's good, he is good. I would take. But I'll

1521
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: go with Spielberg. Cheers or Seinfeld as a sitcom Seinfeld

1522
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: every Day? Yeah, you know close. I mean Cheers was

1523
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: a great sitcom. It was great, but it petered out.

1524
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah it Peter Seinfeld. I mean I didn't care for

1525
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: the Seinfeld ending so much. Okay, the finale, but the

1526
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: show in itself. Oh yes, Seannery or Roger Moore as Bond,

1527
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Sean Connery. Although you know, Roger Moore was

1528
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: Bond when I was a kid, so like, I didn't

1529
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: do that many though, did he know? But Live and

1530
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: Let Die was one of the best movies I saw

1531
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: as a kid. You know. I will say though, Daniel

1532
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Craig was my all time Bond favorite. Oh, I think

1533
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: he's I think, I really do. I mean, people will

1534
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: like Sean Connor, you know, like the die Hards, but

1535
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: I think Roger Craig was better, and he was did

1536
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: you do that on purpose? Well, as I was saying it,

1537
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: I knew I had the wrong Craig, but I said

1538
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: it anyway so that you'd laugh. Well done, and he

1539
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: was a good one. Well done, John Wayne or Clint

1540
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: Eastwood as a cowboy, Clint Eastwood, I think Clint Eastwood

1541
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: yeah uh. And finally George Carlin or Rodney Dangerfield, probably Rodney.

1542
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: I think Carlin was more creative, but Rodney Rodney could

1543
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: you could laugh just looking at Yeah, and he was funny.

1544
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: And then Caddyshack did it for me. I mean he

1545
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: stole that show, right is that? How come with the

1546
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: Bull of Souper? He and Bill Murray stole the show,

1547
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: absolutely did. But I mean the scenes with Rodney Danney,

1548
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: every one of them was laugh out loud. Yeah, you

1549
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: know the way he teased Ted Knight, you know, Oh

1550
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: that's his style of comedy, right, Yeah, you look good

1551
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:43,759
Speaker 1: at the electricity, nice kid, No, I know, I tigers,

1552
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: they're young. Tell the chef this tastes like dog food

1553
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: and he's like dog food. Though, great great movie. That

1554
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: was a good game. Yep. It was, Uh, let's see

1555
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Addison right soon. Where is he from Fresno? On Thursday? Yeah,

1556
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: On Thursday, the topic of opinions came up, and I

1557
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: felt the need to share my opinion on the subject.

1558
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: Both Fred and Eric said that opinions can be wrong,

1559
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: and while the facts within the opinion may be false,

1560
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: the opinion itself is still the person's opinion, like friend's

1561
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 1: opinion about nikes, yeah, and therefore the fact that it

1562
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: is their opinion is true. For example, say I declare

1563
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: I believe that I am a tomato plant objectively, no

1564
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: matter how much I feel like even if I paint

1565
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: myself green and stand in the sun all day to photothyticize,

1566
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 1: I won't actually get to be a tomato plant, and

1567
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: I will never bear fruit. However, it would still be

1568
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 1: true that I believe that I am a tomato plant.

1569
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 1: In this case, the facts of my opinion are laughably incorrect,

1570
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: but the fact that I believe those facts is still true,

1571
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: and therefore my opinion that I am a tomato plant

1572
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 1: would be correct. The fact you have an opinion, yeah,

1573
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: is correct, but the opinion itself isn't necessarily correct. I'm

1574
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: excited to hear your opinion of my opinion of opinions,

1575
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: your two opinion needed yea and as we uh just

1576
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: want to be talking about that nonsense? No socks comes in.

1577
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: What's up, Matt? Turn your microphone? I hit it, said,

1578
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: I hit it right, I blame Morrell? All right, Wow,

1579
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: controversy right off the bat. Um you guys scrape in

1580
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: the bottom of the barrel. No do show, no perilla. Yeah,

1581
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,719
Speaker 1: we actually talked to a lot of football in this show.

1582
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Did you good? Yeah? What? What's what's the um? What's

1583
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: the topic? Does your well we're talking draft Jo, talking

1584
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: to Hall of Fame finalists and people interested in that. Yeah.

1585
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: Two people have written in about that among the many emailers.

1586
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: And who do you think both of them said they're

1587
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: going to vote for? Is it a finalist? Yes? Okay? Um,

1588
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: So I had somebody asked me this the other day.

1589
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: Who I thought was going to get in from the

1590
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: fan vote in my prediction is Wilfork. I think Wilfork

1591
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: is going to carry the fan vote. But we had

1592
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: a caller who can't hauled in and said that he

1593
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: was swayed by our arguments for Rabel, right, so he's

1594
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 1: going to vote for Vrabel so I was very surprised,

1595
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: and I think Fred and I didn't talk about this,

1596
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: but I did talk to another member of the committee

1597
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: prior to it, and I said, I really think Rabel

1598
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: is getting the short end of this. I agree, and

1599
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: I said, and not that this is the reason to

1600
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: do it, but I think you can kind of look

1601
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: at this on the way out. Look all three people

1602
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: who were finalists this year, I don't think there's any

1603
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: question or all deserving to be in the Patriots Hall

1604
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 1: of Fame. And in a lot of ways, it's very

1605
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: eye opening that Wes Welker couldn't even get on the ballot.

1606
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a colleague yesterday and

1607
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: he was talking about Welker versus Edelman, and I remember

1608
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: famously we're in Atlanta for the Super Bowl and I

1609
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: was having the conversation with your former colleague may Hart,

1610
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: and he goes to be a favor. Don't embarrass yourself.

1611
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: Open the media guide and just take a look at

1612
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: the media guide, and when you look at welkers statistics,

1613
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 1: their mind boggling. Yea, how he's not a finalist is unreal.

1614
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: He's going into the Patriots Hall of Fame. Or he

1615
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:16,520
Speaker 1: better Yeah, and then it's well, when does Vinitary become eligible?

1616
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: When does Brady become eligible? Devin mccordy Matthew slid like,

1617
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: when's rebel getting in? Like you could it could be

1618
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 1: a long time down the road. So why why is

1619
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: Rabel not? Like? Is it because of his stance that

1620
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: he took you know, eight that he's not getting in?

1621
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: Is it the fact that he didn't finish as a Patriot?

1622
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,759
Speaker 1: Is it the fact that he's a pretty good coach

1623
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: and he's beaten your team a couple of times head

1624
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: to head? Why is it that he doesn't rise to

1625
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: the level of think of the fee and vote? I think,

1626
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, if it was Rabel and you know, Bill Parcels,

1627
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 1: and he'd get in. But he just happens to be

1628
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: in an error where there's just a lot of fan favorites,

1629
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: you know. But I don't think there's any Patriot fan

1630
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: that thinks he shouldn't be in, whereas like a guy

1631
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: like Bill Parcels, there are some polarized, there are some

1632
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: that say he shouldn't be in. But I just think

1633
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 1: it's just we're given three choices and you can only

1634
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: choose one, and so he gets the short end of

1635
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: the stick. It's yeah, I just I try to put

1636
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: myself in his shoes. Where like every year for however

1637
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: many years, this is now six straight phone rings like hey, hi,

1638
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: it's Patriots Hall of Fame. You're a finalist this year,

1639
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, great, thanks and hangs up because,

1640
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 1: like Wentz, he gonna get in. I have heard through

1641
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 1: the grapevine that he not about this year. I haven't

1642
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: heard about it this year, but I've heard that he's

1643
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: tired of it. Wouldn't you be? Yeah? I would be.

1644
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to think again. So we're having a

1645
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 1: conversation here. Does he deserve to be in before Light

1646
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: And I would say yes, I say yes. Does he

1647
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: deserve to be in before Falk And I would say yes.

1648
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: Are those the two biggest ones that we can think of?

1649
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Does he deserve to be in before Raymond Cliborne? Yes?

1650
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I agree. So there's three times and I don't know,

1651
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at who the finalists were or anything

1652
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: like that, but there's three times where you can say

1653
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: I don't think he deserves to be in. Well, does

1654
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 1: he deserve to be in ahead of Rodney? I say yes? Okay,

1655
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: so that's I mean, yeah, I mean you can make

1656
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: an argument for all of it. Richard Seymour, I think

1657
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: it was a better football player and a better Patriot

1658
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: than Mike Rabel was. And and Richard Seymour spent the

1659
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: bulk of his career with the Patriots and he's now

1660
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: going to cant in the summer. I'll tell you a

1661
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:36,520
Speaker 1: funny story. I was going to Tennessee for a conference,

1662
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, tech conference, one of our partners. And I'm

1663
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 1: on the plane and a woman sits down with a

1664
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: big kid, right, and I don't know who they are.

1665
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: They start talking and it's like, yeah, this, this whole

1666
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,600
Speaker 1: thing is ridiculous. He gets in it every year and

1667
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 1: they never vote him in. It was Rabel's wife and

1668
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: his son from BC coming back to Tennessee, and I

1669
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: sat with him the whole time. I didn't say a word,

1670
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: and at the end I introduced myself and I said,

1671
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: by the way, I agree with you, it's ridiculous. Right,

1672
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: Fred has a good solution for this dilemma, Okay, brought

1673
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: up I have one as well. Friends has probably I

1674
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: just if you're on the ballot, you know, final three

1675
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: or five years in a row you get in, you know,

1676
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 1: I think that's fine. Um. Next year there is going

1677
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 1: to be the Veterans Committee, um, and there will be

1678
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: probably some sort of groundswellow support for a guy like

1679
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 1: Julius Adams. I'm not sitting here try to knock Julius

1680
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: Adams because he was a great patriot other than Brady

1681
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 1: did he is he second in games played? I think

1682
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: Julius Adams there's something to it from a longevity standpoint

1683
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: that you can mace for Julius Adams. I would argue

1684
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: from a veteran standpoint, put Rabel in, forget about Julius Adams,

1685
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 1: John Smith, Fred Marry and some of these people that

1686
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: people are, you know, advocating their candidacies, and that's great,

1687
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 1: but let's if he doesn't get in this year, there

1688
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 1: should be a wrong righted by making sure that what

1689
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 1: what's the criteria for veteran like I know, like in

1690
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: the Canton Hall of Fame, he wouldn't be eligible because

1691
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: veteran you have to be out of the game for

1692
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: like twenty years or something like that. I don't know,

1693
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: and has Julius was his was Julius's last year eighty five,

1694
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 1: so he certainly wouldn't do that. I don't know, but

1695
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 1: see eligible for the Veteran committee probably, I don't think.

1696
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: So are there rules for that? I don't know. I

1697
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 1: think so. I'm not on that committee, so I don't know. Yeah,

1698
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I would assume though you have offended. I'm offended that

1699
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: I am on the car. I'm offended you don't know

1700
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:44,919
Speaker 1: the rules. That's fair. That's fair. Uh. Liam from North Yorkshire,

1701
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 1: UK love the show listened to Oh by the way, Matt.

1702
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: We started to show off with someone who just thought

1703
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: we were absolute clowns talking about everything but football. Were

1704
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: just terrible and you know, said we would never read

1705
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 1: his email email, So I read it anyway, Okay. We

1706
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: like those kind of emails. When they go low, you

1707
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 1: go high, quick quick. Aside. Julius Adams, I don't remember

1708
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 1: this came back after that Super Bowl in nineteen eighty seven,

1709
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: wearing number sixty nine. Oh yeah, yeah, so that was

1710
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 1: his last appearance on the Patriot. I thought it was

1711
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl bus. Okay. Anyway, Liam writes in um,

1712
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: all you guys, you guys do a great job of

1713
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots talk, but also the random topics that pop

1714
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: up each show in reference to the guy who buys

1715
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: the jersey of well known draft bus from Thursday Show. Yeah,

1716
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: we had a caller who says he buys like draft

1717
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: bus JaMarcus Russell. Yeah, that's the one he was wearing. Actually, yeah,

1718
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: he was trying leaf. I have a few recent bus

1719
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: for you guys. Johnny Manziel, that'd be good. That's a

1720
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: good one, actually, very good one. Josh Rosen another good one,

1721
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: I would think. Yeah. I think he was right outside

1722
01:37:55,240 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 1: the first round, first round for sure. M Paxton Lynch, Yeah,

1723
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: I think he's in the USFL. Now is he? Did

1724
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: anybody watch that this weekend? Now out there? Watch it

1725
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,919
Speaker 1: at all? Isaiah Wilson Wilson, I don't even remember wide receiver.

1726
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I've never heard of him, right, Uh?

1727
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: And too a taglia Vola. Yeah, I don't, I don't.

1728
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't him. Way too early, it's too early, uh,

1729
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: he says, I personally don't think he's that bad, but

1730
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 1: Miami seems pretty down on him, as does the rest

1731
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: of the league. He's beaten you three times? Yeah, right, Yeah,

1732
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: I think way too early to call him a bust. Yeah.

1733
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 1: And also don't you uh? And then he says nikkil Harry,

1734
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 1: which goes without saying yeah, I mean it's too bad.

1735
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 1: I always say, well, maybe this year he'll catch on.

1736
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: All right, can I bring it? I don't know if

1737
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: this type of conversation has made its way to Patriots unfiltered.

1738
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: So let me let me bring a topic up with

1739
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: the draft a little more than a week out. Um,

1740
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: what are the chances that Jake Bailey is on this

1741
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: team on May first? Well? If they draft this other

1742
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 1: kid out of was it San Diego? I think he's

1743
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: the left footed punter that you punt it like eighty

1744
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 1: eighty yards or something like that. Um, I think I

1745
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: think Jake Bailey is on the team on May first. Yeah,

1746
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 1: at that number, what's he getting? Like four million? Yeah

1747
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: for a punter? Yeah? Doesn't that stick like a short thumb? No? No,

1748
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: not really? Okay, maybe I guess I don't have my

1749
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 1: punter salaries. Um, memorize that seems really high and in

1750
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: a Patriots ecosystem, seems really really Yeah. Well, I mean

1751
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 1: they've got this other guy, and you know, I think

1752
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna get drafted, the guy from San Diego State,

1753
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 1: you know, lower probably, but but I guess he's that good,

1754
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: you know so so so? Was that one that is

1755
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: so obvious that it's not that it won't happen in

1756
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: Is that why you say that? Eric? No, I just

1757
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: think I think people are really what's the word I'm

1758
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: looking for, people are people are really prejudiced by what

1759
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: they saw this past season when Jake Bailey was hurt

1760
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: pretty much the entire year. Was he yes, he had

1761
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 1: a knee injury. Was he on the injury report? He

1762
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 1: was early on about that because I mean, you know

1763
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: he was injury. He was on the injury report early

1764
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 1: in the season, and I believe he dealt with something

1765
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: the entire year, which is why many times we saw

1766
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 1: Nick Folk kicking off in games. I saw, Yeah, they

1767
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 1: were managing this injury of of Bailey's. And look, he's

1768
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 1: your kickoff specialist, he's your backup field goal kicker in

1769
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 1: a pinch, and he's a Pro Bowl, All Pro caliber punter.

1770
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. Yeah, that's why I see. I mean,

1771
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: they know they know better if if you're right, Eric,

1772
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 1: and he was hampered by that, they know that too,

1773
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: and then he will be on the team. Yeah. I

1774
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: just I mean, I believe you and when you go

1775
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: through it and you talk about I agree with you

1776
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: that they were managing him throughout the year, But he

1777
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: didn't have a good year last year. And I don't

1778
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: know if who can just sit there and blame that

1779
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 1: all on injury. I mean, he should there ever be

1780
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: one kickoff that goes out of bound, let alone two?

1781
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: And is that an injury situation there? Like those those

1782
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 1: just we laugh at teams where those things happen in

1783
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: special teams, and those kind of gaps happened far too

1784
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: often last year. And I just didn't think he had

1785
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 1: a very good year to me. To me, he seemed

1786
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 1: like the kind of person I don't know him, so

1787
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to disparage him. The classic example of

1788
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 1: a guy who achieved something and let it get to

1789
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: his head and then really came back to earth. Can

1790
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 1: you get back to that other spot through? Is that?

1791
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, And I don't know that I want

1792
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,799
Speaker 1: to spend four million dollars hoping that he can, because

1793
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 1: that position to me seems like that's a million and

1794
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 1: a half or two million. Well hope you hope that

1795
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 1: your punter sees very little action, but unfortunately no, you know,

1796
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 1: on this team last year. They needed him a lot.

1797
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I I don't know. To me,

1798
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 1: four million isn't that much, Okay, I mean it's not

1799
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: that much to me either. I mean, yeah, Folk resigned

1800
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 1: for what was it seven? No, I was gonna say

1801
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 1: he's four Oh, he's still he's I forgot what his

1802
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 1: number was. But it's in that general range, you know,

1803
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 1: it's not like it's not double digit million. Should I

1804
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: have like THEE, should I have salary cap figures here

1805
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: when I come to the show, like not an what

1806
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: about morel Should he have um salary cap figures? Like no, no, okay, no,

1807
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: we usually have you know, cap space. Uh, call in

1808
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: when we have Oh, but like if it's a guy

1809
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: that really like recently signed, we'll know that contract numbers.

1810
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 1: But it's not you know, like Tyreek Hill. We know

1811
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 1: thirty million a year. We know stuff like that, the

1812
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: general range. You know, so kickers making a few million,

1813
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean that's the going rate for a good player

1814
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 1: now at that position. And look the caps exploding. It

1815
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 1: didn't explode this year, but it's gonna next lad next year.

1816
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,759
Speaker 1: Somebody wrote the other day, the day of one hundred

1817
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 1: million dollars a year quarterback is not as well. Let

1818
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: sounds just outlandish, I think all of us because of

1819
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 1: the cap that you're gonna see something stupid like that happen.

1820
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 1: It's probably true, isn't it. Like, well, they're up to

1821
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: over forty Yeah, now right, So yeah, it's gonna take

1822
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 1: a while, but yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen

1823
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: in the eventual will but maybe in the next decade.

1824
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 1: Eventually it will. You know, there's all kinds of talks

1825
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: about new uh, you know, the broadcast package is done,

1826
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 1: but there's all these subsidiary packages that are you know,

1827
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 1: coming out and you know Florio was writing about, um,

1828
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 1: Apple could possibly you know, be the new owners of

1829
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: the Sunday ticket, which was always you know, Direct TV,

1830
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 1: but now Apple could take that for billions and they

1831
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: could sell parts of it too back to sun you know,

1832
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 1: uh satellite, but they could keep that for you know,

1833
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: they're subs gribbers, you know, for huge dollars, huge dollars

1834
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 1: um you know. So there's all kinds of those streaming

1835
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: packages that are you know, gonna make the league so

1836
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: much more money. Yeah, does Apple get on the headset

1837
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 1: if they get that package? Because Bosa is out. Bosa

1838
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: is out. But you would think you'd want like a

1839
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: company that actually makes a product, I would think, and

1840
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 1: I guess you know Apple does. They make like those

1841
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 1: earbud things, well not just the earbuds, they make like

1842
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: a high quality headset over the ear over the year.

1843
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: It's like five six hundred bucks a pair. O Um.

1844
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: But they're not weatherproof, I can tell you that much.

1845
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 1: So they'd have to redesign that thing for the weather,

1846
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, for the sidelines. Yeah, yeah, um maybe you know.

1847
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Apple's doing it though, for the

1848
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 1: hardware part of it. I think it's no, no no, no, yeah, yeah.

1849
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: They you know, they're making their money on Apple TV

1850
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: and the other stuff. I don't think they care about

1851
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 1: who's wearing their headphone Apples, beat by Drey, Oh that's them.

1852
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: They bought them. They bought Beats for a billion dollars

1853
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: a few years. Yeah, that's billions did Yeah. And I

1854
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: was going to suggest mean that to be like, if

1855
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 1: it's not bows, what's what's the market out there? Matt?

1856
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 1: Is that is it? Is it beats versus bows? Is

1857
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: that what people are doing wearing over the year, And

1858
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 1: that would make right right. The kids own the beats, yeah, bos.

1859
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: They love our friends at Bows. Yeah, I love love.

1860
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 1: I've always had bows. Love products is a good product,

1861
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: right Yea? And they're local, aren't they? Okay, So I'll

1862
01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: ask another question here, Um, what is the consensus of

1863
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 1: you experts on Thursday night? Uh? Is it? And I

1864
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: do not try to be a joker? Is it? Um?

1865
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 1: Trade out? Is that the consensus? Uh? I? I was

1866
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 1: more I told friend this earlier in the show. I

1867
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 1: was more convinced last week that they were going to

1868
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: trade out of the first round than I am this

1869
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: week by a little bit, because of what mac Row

1870
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 1: said the other day when we talk to him like

1871
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: you gotta go get one. No, no, not just that,

1872
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: but just when asked about trading and how the Patriots

1873
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 1: always are looking for value, he kind of laughed it

1874
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 1: off and said, that's kind of the narrative about us

1875
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: every year, it seems, and we always want our players

1876
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: to be valuable. This year, we want our twenty first

1877
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 1: pick to be as valuable as our fifty fourth, and

1878
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: those happened to be the first two picks that they have.

1879
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: So he's talking, at least was at that point like

1880
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 1: a guy who was expecting to make a pick. So yeah,

1881
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: but I, and we've talked about this before, I'm pretty

1882
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: sure that they don't go into the draft saying we're

1883
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:40,799
Speaker 1: gonna trade down. They let they find out what's happening

1884
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: ahead of them, right, and you know, the chances of

1885
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 1: them trading up as trading down as staying put are

1886
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 1: the same to me going into the draft, because it

1887
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 1: really depends on what the teams ahead of them do. Well,

1888
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: if they if they see a guy that they love,

1889
01:46:56,680 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 1: like three spots ahead, you know, and he's drop, they

1890
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 1: will move up. They've done that. If if if the

1891
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: guys that are left with them at twenty one are

1892
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 1: all in a big group, they're gonna trade down because

1893
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 1: they know they can get somebody from that group later

1894
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 1: on and get more draft assets. And obviously if the

1895
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 1: guy that they love is at twenty one, they'll pick them.

1896
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 1: I they don't go into the draft saying, you know,

1897
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,559
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna do that. I agree that, But let me,

1898
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: aren't there a couple of standards here that we can accept?

1899
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,839
Speaker 1: Number one? Would you wouldn't you guess that the Patriots

1900
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:33,799
Speaker 1: draft board is relatively small? Don't you think that there's

1901
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: only a finite amount of people, and it's not a

1902
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 1: big amount of people that make their draft board. So

1903
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 1: if we could assume that number one, okay, for the

1904
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 1: first round you mean, but but I'd say their entire

1905
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 1: draft no, but but but we have to define what

1906
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,719
Speaker 1: that means. So there's like three hundred and some odd

1907
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 1: people eligible to be drafted. Are you saying that, like

1908
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots draft board is like a hundred people. I'd

1909
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 1: say it's far less than even less than that. I

1910
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 1: would say it's thirty to four. And why is that?

1911
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 1: Because I think they have very uh rigid standards. Sure,

1912
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 1: that's a great way to put it. Yeah, I think

1913
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 1: that they're what they think is draft eligible. I think

1914
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 1: is a very hard criteria. To me. It's got to

1915
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,799
Speaker 1: be bigger than thirty or forty. I mean, come on, okay,

1916
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to sit here in professional Um.

1917
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 1: I mean, your second pick is fifty two, right, all right?

1918
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: You know your your last pick is two hundred and

1919
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: some odds. So they're throwing darts at those guys. Yeah, yeah,

1920
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: but they kind of know you know that that that

1921
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: you know they're draftable. Okay, But so let's get away

1922
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 1: from the number of what that board is, would you

1923
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 1: agree it's small or probably smaller than smaller than most.

1924
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: So if we assume that for a second, and that

1925
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: this isn't a great draft in the first round, which

1926
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,719
Speaker 1: is what the experts are saying, that the real value

1927
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 1: is in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds, I would

1928
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: just say that there's aren't a ton of Patriots who

1929
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 1: are first round draft eligible guys, and so that the

1930
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: idea of well, let's trade out. I don't know. I

1931
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: think everybody wants to trade out to get back and

1932
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: to get more picks. And you just wonder is are

1933
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 1: they going to be sitting there at twenty one going

1934
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 1: we don't really like anybody, but we gotta make a pick, right,

1935
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 1: because you need to to tang go correct? Yeah, correct,

1936
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 1: you know? So, yeah, I want to go back though

1937
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 1: to you know, this whole notion that the Patriots draft

1938
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 1: board is smaller than other teams. Why do you think

1939
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 1: that is? I mean, they don't have Tom Brady anymore.

1940
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: Now mightn't be so selective, right, but but they place

1941
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: a tremendous premium on intelligence leadership there, you know, every year, Yeah,

1942
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,240
Speaker 1: every year it's captains of their class captains in high school,

1943
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: captains in college, and those kinds of things. They're not

1944
01:49:55,880 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 1: taking the workout warrior type player or the combined person

1945
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 1: who wows them or things like that. And why is

1946
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: it that they've struggled so dramatically at the wide receiver

1947
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 1: position over a very large sample size. Is because that playbook,

1948
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 1: as the quarterback who has drafted last year is admitted,

1949
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 1: is one of the hardest playbooks to learn. So if

1950
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 1: that's going on and you're having difficulty integrating people into that,

1951
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: I would think just by nature, that means that you're

1952
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 1: looking at a smaller group of people. Say, there's another

1953
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: narrative that I don't necessarily agree with. I don't think

1954
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 1: that right now their playbook is any more sophisticated than

1955
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: the other team's playbooks. Okay, you've got you had a

1956
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 1: first round a first year quarterback last year. You know

1957
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: you can't have the playbook that Tom Brady built up

1958
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,759
Speaker 1: over twenty years. It's just not gonna work. I don't believe.

1959
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 1: And if you listen to other teams all last year,

1960
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,160
Speaker 1: they said that the Patriots were easy to defend. Does

1961
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,600
Speaker 1: that sound like a sophisticated playbook? To you. No, No,

1962
01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: they were running a pretty much vanilla offense last year,

1963
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 1: and I think they have to continue to do that

1964
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 1: until at least Mac Jones, you know, fully gets it.

1965
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not buying that, Okay, but buying that. But

1966
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm not making up the mac Jones comments that he

1967
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 1: said this is one of the largest like he's just

1968
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 1: not saying that, is he It helps him to say

1969
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 1: that because then if he masters that, that makes him

1970
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: that much more intelligent. Okay, I mean, why our other

1971
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: we've never heard that before. The Patriots are easy to defend.

1972
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 1: We never heard that's never right, but it makes sense.

1973
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: It makes sense you have a rookie quarterback. Pad. I'm

1974
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: not saying it's a bad thing. You're just saying it's

1975
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: a fact, right, And I think they did dumb it

1976
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 1: down for him last year, you know, no question about it.

1977
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: But I still think that that Mac Jones. The type

1978
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 1: of quarterback that Mac Jones is, I think is built

1979
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 1: for that Patriot system. He's not going to play for

1980
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 1: a lot of other different teams. He was attractive to

1981
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: this team because of the eligant factor, because he has

1982
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 1: shown the ability to absorb a lot, no doubt yeah,

1983
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: And I think that that is part and parcel. That's

1984
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: the kind of player in general terms that they like. Well,

1985
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of them are. And Bill

1986
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: has said that he wants guys he likes to coach. Yeah,

1987
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 1: meaning guys who want to be coached, Guys who you know,

1988
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: like it's important to it exactly took the words out

1989
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 1: of my mouth. Um, you know, so yeah, I'll agree

1990
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: with that, no doubt about it. You know. I think

1991
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: nowadays though, that these guys are so schooled up for

1992
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: the draft. I think there's a lot more of those

1993
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: guys than used to be. They realize that, like, if

1994
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it in the NFL, I better, you know,

1995
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: keep my nose clean. And there's always exceptions, of course,

1996
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 1: there's THOA's guys makes stupid mistakes or once they get

1997
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 1: here to do dumb things once they get the money.

1998
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:53,480
Speaker 1: But I think there's there's a lot of guys available.

1999
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: What I'd like to know, though, is how if Fred's

2000
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 1: right about they go into a draft wanting to make

2001
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: a pick, and then whatever happens before them determines. I

2002
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: want to know how quickly into the first round that

2003
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 1: point comes and I'm sure it changes from you. I

2004
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 1: think within five picks of theirs, they kind of have

2005
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 1: an idea of what they want to do. Or there's

2006
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 1: some years where like after the first five picks they're like,

2007
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, we're done. I'll take that a step further.

2008
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Sorry if I was interrupted you there. I think they

2009
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 1: knew when Lance went at three last year that Jones

2010
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 1: was going to be available to him. I think I

2011
01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: think they looked at it and said, you know what,

2012
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 1: let's just say stay here. You don't know who's gonna

2013
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 1: move up, and clearly who moved up. The Bears moved up, right,

2014
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: Bears moved up, and so I don't know who's coming

2015
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: up from behind. But they could sit there and take

2016
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 1: a look at four through fourteen and pretty much I

2017
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: think they believe we could tell you what's going on here,

2018
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: and this guy's going to be available. Yeah, I mean

2019
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna have at least him or who's the kid

2020
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 1: who went to West Chicago, what's his name. I think

2021
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 1: they knew after three that they were gonn have a

2022
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: choice between one of those two. Well, I think I don't.

2023
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: I think and I've heard that if there were a

2024
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,080
Speaker 1: couple of the wide receivers that they loved, Waddle was

2025
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: one of them available, they would have taken a wide

2026
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,559
Speaker 1: receiver instead of a quarterback, and they would have waited

2027
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 1: to round two. If Mac was there, great, and if not,

2028
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 1: they'd take the kids to Stanford, that went to Stanford,

2029
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: that went to Houston, you know. So it wasn't a

2030
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 1: given that they were going to take a quarterback in

2031
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 1: the first round. But it just that's the way the

2032
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 1: board unfolded to them. And the two guys they really

2033
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 1: liked a wide receiver weren't there. Jones was there. It

2034
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 1: was like, okay, let's just get them now, you know um.

2035
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's how they approach it. They know

2036
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: who they like, they've got their board, and then they

2037
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 1: wait to see how it unfolds. And by the way,

2038
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: I've also heard stories, I don't know if last year,

2039
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 1: the year before, where they've been wanting to make trades

2040
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 1: and burning up the phones and they just couldn't get

2041
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 1: a partner, you know, to move up, to move up,

2042
01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 1: you know. So it's every but he has this narrative like, oh,

2043
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots always look for value and they moved down.

2044
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 1: It's it's not true. They moved. It just seems like

2045
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 1: they do it more often than I think. That's where

2046
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: the narrative comes from. Yeah, so our fancying our fans,

2047
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: and you guys are dealing with them here as you

2048
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 1: do this show all the time. Do they think cornerback

2049
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 1: is the position that um not just similar to a

2050
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 1: quarterback last year, that there's such a glaring need for

2051
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 1: cornerback that that's who they look at in the first round.

2052
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: I think defender in general is what people want. Yeah,

2053
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 1: I think most people want a cornerback. But yeah, I'd

2054
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 1: certainly want a cornerback. And I thought Reese had a

2055
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 1: really interesting piece yesterday where he wrote that there might

2056
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: not be enough first round draft draftable cornerbacks that the

2057
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 1: guys who are first round eligible, Yeah, they're gone. We

2058
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: were looking at that, you know, after the first few

2059
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 1: you know the rankings or you know the write ups

2060
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: of these guys. None of them are true shut down corners.

2061
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 1: You know, so your value you there for first round

2062
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 1: Quarnerman and we were talking about earlier. When you draft

2063
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 1: those key positions quarterback, cornerback, outside edge rusher, and wide

2064
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 1: receiver in the first round, it gets expensive to keep

2065
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: them correct you know, so unless you really get at

2066
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 1: Durrell Reevs In the first round, who Okay, this guy

2067
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 1: can win your football games. It's tough to you have

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Speaker 1: to really hit on a first round pick in those

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Speaker 1: positions because they get so expensive. And so in theory,

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Speaker 1: does it make more sense to take that guy at

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Speaker 1: defensive back? Who where you know the value is a

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Speaker 1: defensive back as opposed to an interior offensive lineman because

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Speaker 1: it's an interior offensive lineman and they're going to get expensive. Mean,

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Speaker 1: what a tuney And that was that was a mistake.

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Speaker 1: But he got the money he did. But that Kansas

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01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: to me, that was Kansas City gave him money. I know,

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Speaker 1: but that was a managerial mistake I thought on the

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Speaker 1: Patriots part to give him a franchise tag. He's overpaid,

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Speaker 1: he's overpaid. Well, but that position is now overpaid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so the value is would you rather overpay at

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Speaker 1: one of the positions that you just talked about? You know,

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Speaker 1: because I was having a conversation with somebody today, I said, well,

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Speaker 1: then what about interior offensive lineman? Said I think you'd

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Speaker 1: rather be on the hook at that five year mark

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Speaker 1: for a position like corner quarter, edge rusher then interior

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Because those salaries are getting out of way.

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Speaker 1: They are, but those other salaries are crazy too, and

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Speaker 1: they better be good, I mean, because you know, but

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Speaker 1: like you said, the CAP's going way up, way up,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, so it's you know, it's getting a

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Speaker 1: little bit you know, moot. But who was the guy that,

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Speaker 1: um that just gets the cornerback? He just became the

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Speaker 1: highest paid Yeah, Denzil a Ward. He became the highest

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Speaker 1: paid cornerback ever. Million contracts And all I've been reading,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if I'm reading the wrong stuff,

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01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 1: is people are people are going wow, this guy gave

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Speaker 1: up a lot of leverage. He signed a huge deal

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Speaker 1: at a really team friendly number because at his position

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Speaker 1: and with the assumption of where the cap is going,

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Speaker 1: he gave up a lot of money by you know,

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Speaker 1: taking what he took. And I believe they guaranteed it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the contract was guaranteed over seventy million guaranteed or something

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Speaker 1: like that. So the Hazels are making a lot of

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Speaker 1: friends with the owners. Yeah, with these guaranteed contracts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like Bashott, he's already pissed because of the Lamar Jackson situation, right, yea,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's it's interesting stuff. Um, thanks for coming by,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having by the way before we leave, if

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Speaker 1: you if listeners haven't done so Pats from the Past,

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Speaker 1: the Drew Bledsoe episode. Oh you're kind thank you. I

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed that one. Yeah, and I were. You know,

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Speaker 1: that was my my wheelhouse time frame back then. You've

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Speaker 1: got to do more of those, right, yeah, yeah, no question.

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Speaker 1: I think I think we're doing I think we're doing

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Speaker 1: Gerard Mayo maybe, uh next Monday, okay, yeah, so knock

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Speaker 1: on wood. That's what's that's what's lined up. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean as we get further from that twenty year run,

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Speaker 1: that type of stuff becomes more and more important. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, bletso is one of the good ones. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

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Speaker 1: Patriots on Filtered. We'll be back Thursday with another episode. Paul,

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Speaker 1: I think we'll be back on time. I think Deuce

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Speaker 1: I believe, is definitely back. Okay, so both of them,

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Speaker 1: so either either both or one of them, Okay, we

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Speaker 1: will Paul's kid have accepted been accepted to a college.

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Speaker 1: Do you think oh gets back. I'll say, is he

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Speaker 1: on a recruiting trip? No, I think, I think, I

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Speaker 1: think of school visits. Yes, that's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, visits,

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Speaker 1: I'll say yes. All right, nice, all right, talk to

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