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Speaker 1: welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Ur, the pulse

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Speaker 2: See him, see.

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Speaker 1: Him live, breaking news right now here in Real America's

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Speaker 1: fool filter. These people are domestic terrorists and unapologetic.

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Speaker 2: We're here to take a stand for God and country.

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Speaker 2: Let's feel good. America's Voice Live starts now. All right,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 1: We were Today is Friday, the twelfth of September, in

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Speaker 1: the year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. It's good

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Speaker 1: of the day's top stories is always Thank you for

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Speaker 2: We truly appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Through a difficult week, no doubt, it's been a rough

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Speaker 1: and for Charlie Kirk's family, but for the nation as

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Speaker 1: a whole, as we continue to mourn the loss of

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Speaker 1: a great American patriot and a man of God. I've

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Speaker 1: been discussing updates on the investigation today, as well.

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Speaker 2: As any live updates we receive through the hour here.

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Speaker 1: Also in the midst of political violence, another school shooting

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Speaker 2: We'll have the latest one that in the shooter and

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Speaker 1: Republicans continue to face criticism and ridicule from the IRS,

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Speaker 2: Details on those stories coming up, but.

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Speaker 1: First I want to circle back to the assassination of

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Speaker 1: my friend and colleague here at Real America's Voice, Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Earlier today, Utah under Spencer Cox, along with that FBI

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Speaker 1: It comes after President Trump made an announcement on Fox

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Speaker 1: earlier this morning. Twenty two year old Tyler Robinson, identified

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Speaker 1: Utah Governor Spencer Cox did say before the arrest that

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Speaker 4: Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson, who stated that

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Speaker 4: They talked about why they didn't like him. And the

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Speaker 1: Political violence has no place in this country. Most of

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Speaker 2: Join out to discuss where we go from here.

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Speaker 1: As retired to US Navy intel officer or police attended

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk through this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk through this a little bit and kind of

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Speaker 2: None of that's true except that he is a white guy.

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Speaker 1: More recent pictures show him in garb that would indicate

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Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Steeve? You're right.

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Speaker 6: This guy is a cold blooded killer, period. I believe

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Speaker 6: this guy terrorized the entire nation, let alone what he

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Speaker 5: That particular horrific day.

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Speaker 6: But the problem we have, Steve, is we have a

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Speaker 6: of racism. Conservatives are under attack, Christians are under attack.

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Speaker 6: spewing out. The garbage that they're spewing out, they're going

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Speaker 1: Know, Lieutenant, With that, I want to I want to

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Speaker 2: It's compilation put together some of those things you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: The talking points put out there by the left of

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Speaker 1: There's no depth to their depravity. Listen to this.

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Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk just got shot in the net.

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Speaker 2: Hey, he had it coming. He only has to. Jenny

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Speaker 2: Kirk got shot and he did.

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Speaker 8: Finally, finally, thanks you can we.

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Speaker 9: Keep this shot right in the voice box.

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Speaker 2: I might be one percent was atheist today, I don't

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Speaker 2: fucking be it. This is so bad, This is so bad.

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Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up. Bolt and prayers, rest and smoke.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk popped for talking outside of his neck. Whoop

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Speaker 1: I apologize for the language, but in order to understand

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Speaker 1: you know, and I look at that these are people

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Speaker 2: People's minds, and he was really good at it. That's

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Speaker 2: why they're celebrating your thoughts after hearing that these.

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Speaker 6: Are sick people, Steve, they have nothing to do with nothing.

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Speaker 5: They're not white supremacist. They're just sick people.

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Speaker 6: And these are the people, unfortunately, that we are getting

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Speaker 6: some of the people there around that are saying should

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Speaker 5: Off the edge. You need to check them.

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Speaker 6: You see something, say something, Well, we just saw there.

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Speaker 5: And look at what we're seeing right there.

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Speaker 6: I mean, somebody has to know these people and they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what can we do here about this kind of violence?

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Speaker 6: Well, Steve, I've urged a lot of people on a

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Speaker 5: God's word, not from some political agenda.

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Speaker 1: What do you think Charlie kirk would want, he said,

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Speaker 1: time and again. The most powerful weapon in your arsenal's forgiveness.

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Speaker 1: You think people to forgive this twisted, misguided, hateful individual

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Speaker 1: he's done, Lieutenant. He's made Charlie kirk ten times bigger.

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Speaker 1: He's more powerful in death in messaging than he was

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Speaker 2: I think he was sadly mistaken. I give you the

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Speaker 5: But we need to leave that to God.

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Speaker 6: We're not a conservative movement of people who believe in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forgiveness. Tough for a lot of folks.

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Speaker 1: It's been very difficult two days just over now for

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you being here to sort it out.

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Speaker 2: They spend time.

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Speaker 5: But thank you for the work you're doing. God bless you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Steve Rogers. Look, it's been a

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Speaker 1: Coming up bad for the break, I'll continue diving into

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Speaker 10: There is no mountains stands as your.

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Speaker 2: Face fool, and there's.

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Speaker 10: No style of me, oh my day, yourcy far.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: As details around the suspect in the assassination of Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 1: Director Chris Pahota, Chris, nice to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the law enforcement efforts here.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is that it's not confirmed, but it seems

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the investigation.

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Speaker 1: What do you take from what you've heard today from

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, again, deepest sympathy and condolence is

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Speaker 8: From what I saw of the FBI and its law

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Speaker 1: Would you expect, look, keep it involved cases. I assume

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Speaker 1: This is one Utah uniquely offers the firing Square, odd

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Speaker 2: Federal charges are also possible.

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Speaker 1: And with Pam Bondi back in the Attorney general seat,

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Speaker 2: Federal prosecution as well.

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Speaker 8: Am I right about That depends on the circumstances from

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Speaker 8: It can become a federal issue, but generally murder charges

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Speaker 2: This clearly was a political.

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Speaker 1: Execution, clearly an assassination because well, the governor told us

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Speaker 1: they spoke to members of the shooter's family, of the

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Speaker 1: full of hate and spreading hate. The messages etched down

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Speaker 2: Flags on his backpack. I'll call it.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty clear, despite what the left would try to

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Speaker 8: Well, I think you can safely assume at this point

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Speaker 1: Can we are we in a point of no return here, Chris,

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was shot.

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Speaker 1: Because he had an unpopular point of view to the

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Speaker 2: We've all seen the young man cheering after Charlie's gunned down.

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Speaker 1: He's about three or four rows back there at the venue,

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Speaker 2: I mean, frankly, Chris, what the hell's wrong with people?

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Speaker 8: I think a certain part of our society has a

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Speaker 8: again they move through that again extreme Marxism, communism, whatever

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Speaker 5: We have to be strong and of good courage to

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Speaker 1: We do need to have courage and strength and resilience

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Speaker 1: Bring up to people today, bots from China and Russia

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Speaker 1: to be very careful right now, Chris, very careful. I'll

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Speaker 8: Well, we've become a society that's easily influenced by and

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Speaker 8: Let's get out of the gutter when it comes to

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Speaker 8: I think if we move in that direction, things will improve.

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Speaker 8: And I'm willing to help anywhere I can, and I

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate you being here today. Wise words, wise words,

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Speaker 2: What is he hearing when he talks to people about

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Speaker 1: Continuing the conversation of this horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: Mark, nice to see you today.

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Speaker 1: Look, you've got a lot of fresh pulling right in

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Speaker 1: pull again, but welcome back to the program. You've been

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Speaker 1: pulling for the last couple of days on this what's

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Speaker 2: Well, what a week? And I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 11: The polling is all kind of stagnated for about two months,

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Speaker 11: so there's been very limited polling that we've had since

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Speaker 11: this has gone on. But we have two nights of

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Speaker 11: new overnight data, and I can tell you that President

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump's job approval rating has not changed.

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Speaker 2: It's holding up.

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Speaker 11: It's negative three points right now, but What has happened

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Speaker 11: is right direction polling has dropped three points just in

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Speaker 11: two days, driven by Republicans plunging six points and independence

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Speaker 11: by five. Democrats are the same. Now people could say, oh,

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Speaker 11: what does that mean, Oh, we're not happy with Trump.

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Speaker 11: Now this is people's I think this is a visceral

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Speaker 11: reaction to the state of America. And we've been, as

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Speaker 11: you know, following right direction for very long time because

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Speaker 11: it's set records coming into Trump's second term, It's been

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Speaker 11: mid forties this entire time. So for it to drop

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Speaker 11: down close to forty immediately with only two out of

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Speaker 11: the five nights, I think this is a big movement.

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Speaker 11: I think this is a gut check for America. Now

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Speaker 11: we also have the first night back of a three

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Speaker 11: night set of Charlie Kirk pulling. It could change a little,

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Speaker 11: It will probably change a few points, but just directionally speaking,

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Speaker 11: the numbers are stunning. We have nearly seventy percent of

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Speaker 11: American likely voters being very concerned about political violence in America,

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Speaker 11: another twenty couple percent somewhat that numbers almost ninety percent.

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Speaker 11: Then we have how concerned are you that there will

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Speaker 11: be more political killings in the next couple of months,

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Speaker 11: fifty percent roughly very concerned or very likely another thirty

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Speaker 11: four percent somewhat So we're in the mid eighties there.

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Speaker 11: It just keeps going on and on. What's to blame

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Speaker 11: for this? Is it access to firearms? This is access

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Speaker 11: to mental health? Nope, the plurality answer is forty five percent.

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Speaker 11: This is because of the violent rhetoric. That's the number

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Speaker 11: one answer. Only thirty percent say access to firearms. And

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Speaker 11: then this final one, this is do you agree or

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Speaker 11: disagree with this quote? I think it's a Donald Trump quote.

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Speaker 11: It's long pastime for all Americans in the media to

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Speaker 11: confront the fact that violence and murder are the tragic

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Speaker 11: consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree day after day,

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Speaker 11: year after year, in the most hateful and despicable way possible.

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Speaker 11: Fifty percent strongly agree, roughly thirty percent somewhat eighty percent.

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Speaker 11: You know as well as I do from following polling

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Speaker 11: that you don't get eighty percent numbers.

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Speaker 1: So America spike jump in there. So that was a

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump quote?

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Speaker 2: I think it was.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, don't quote me on that, but but I mean

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Speaker 11: strong language. People do not like the idea of political violence.

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Speaker 11: So the problem is is that what we're seeing now

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Speaker 11: is all of these ghoulish, demonic human beings on Twitter, celebrating,

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Speaker 11: on yeah Yeah, on TikTok, celebrating.

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Speaker 1: And let me ask you about that, because here's what

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Speaker 1: more in this office, in this studio, and in coordination

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Speaker 1: with all the folks across the rav universe, and that

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Speaker 1: is a large number of people posting going, I don't

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Speaker 1: know who these people are that are celebrating. I can't

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Speaker 1: be associated with that. I'm not really political. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go to the right. I'm going to go to

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Speaker 1: the right. I'm going to leave the Democrat Party. I've

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Speaker 1: seen post after post after post, white people, black people,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you are, big, tall, fat, small,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They're like, I want nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: these people celebrating and dancing on the.

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Speaker 2: Grave of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: They're completely offended by it and repulsed by it.

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Speaker 2: Is there any polling on that.

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, with the numbers that we got there,

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Speaker 11: with eighty percent of people agreeing with that statement about

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Speaker 11: not wanting political violence, I'm sure there's a majority of

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Speaker 11: Democrats too. We're probably going to see a number in

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Speaker 11: the sixties or seventies. Now, there is the uncomfortable truth

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Speaker 11: that there's about twenty five to thirty percent of this

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Speaker 11: country that is probably just gone. And it's not all Democrats.

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Speaker 11: It's a lot of independence and some Republicans. It's a

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Speaker 11: lot of younger voters. But we've seen this before. Another

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Speaker 11: question when we asked, is it understandable that Luigi Mangione

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Speaker 11: executed the CEO of United Healthcare based on the high

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Speaker 11: cost of and it was twenty eight percent. Twenty eight percent.

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Speaker 11: That's a lot of people, but it's not all the Democrats.

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Speaker 11: Now we don't have any more Charlie Kirk pulling back,

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Speaker 11: but we do have this one. Really we did a

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Speaker 11: snap poll on Arena Zerutzka after people. I mean, because

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Speaker 11: let's not forget the fact that three days ago we

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Speaker 11: did not have a White Lives Matter movement in America

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Speaker 11: and we do direct and so I think people's opinions

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Speaker 11: are changing very fast, and there's a lot in this poll.

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Speaker 11: But the one number I want to point out is

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Speaker 11: that we've been pulling on capital punishment, and five years ago,

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Speaker 11: only forty nine percent wanted executions in America, thirty six

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Speaker 11: percent didn't do the math.

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Speaker 2: That's net plus thirteen.

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Speaker 11: Now, we asked in this particular situation that, if convicted,

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Speaker 11: should de Carlos Brown be executed? Sixty percent yes, twenty no,

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Speaker 11: So it's moved twenty seven points towards execution. And of

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Speaker 11: the people, now, a lot of those people haven't even

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Speaker 11: seen the picture or heard about the story. But of

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Speaker 11: the people that saw the photo of the killer on

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Speaker 11: the train, seventy three to fourteen, including a lot of Democrats,

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Speaker 11: want this to happen. I'm literally a majority of every

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Speaker 11: demographic a plurality of Democrats forty eight percent to twenty

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Speaker 11: eight percent want this guy executed, Even people who say

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Speaker 11: that our country is too soft on crime, by a

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Speaker 11: plurality want this guy executed. I think that that represents

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Speaker 11: plus the change in right direction number the beginning of

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Speaker 11: a move big change justice.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Mark, I got to leave it there, a

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Speaker 1: lot of great information. Thank you for sharing all those

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Speaker 1: fresh numbers with us, brand new here on America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up back to the break, another shooting reported, this

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Speaker 1: time in Colorado, and Evergreen High School. He got lost

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Speaker 1: in the confusion. We'll have details coming up, all right,

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Speaker 1: we continue now Evergreen, Colorado. Also in Turmoila, is an

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Speaker 1: active shooter ravaged the hallways and targeted students at Evergreen

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Speaker 1: High School. Happened the same day of the assassination of

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. The Jefferson County Sheriff accounts that first responders

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Speaker 1: were deployed to Evergreen after reports of an active assailant.

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Speaker 1: We're called further developments confirmed that one student remains in

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Speaker 1: critical condition, one discharge from the hospital, the shooter dying

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Speaker 1: from a self inflicted wound.

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Speaker 2: From this to the murder of Arena Zuritska as.

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Speaker 1: Well as the assassination of Charlie Kirk, crime is an issue,

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Speaker 1: along with political violence from the left. As we just

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Speaker 1: heard from Mark Mitchell, eight or ninety percent, I guess

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Speaker 1: opposed to it. Many more think that it's going to continue.

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Speaker 1: Enjoin me to discuss this as the president of the

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Speaker 1: Servative COCAE. Jim Faff, Jim, nice to have you here. Sadly,

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Speaker 1: I think we've crossed into a place where we've crossed

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Speaker 1: into a place where political violence may not be acceptable.

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Speaker 1: To the vast majority. But it's not a surprise to

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Speaker 1: the vast majority more either. And that's a bit of

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Speaker 1: a sad place to be today.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it. Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 7: And listen, I don't know that we it's prudent to

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Speaker 7: blame people on the left for this directly but indirectly.

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Speaker 7: And I was just reviewing some stuff today, the constant

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Speaker 7: strain of Trump's a fascist and the hateful rhetoric and

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Speaker 7: really going back into the Biden administration where you've got

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Speaker 7: an entire censorship industrial complex that was built up that

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Speaker 7: thankfully was broken both when Elon Musk bought Twitter and

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Speaker 7: now into the Trump administration. But the reality is that

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Speaker 7: the Democrat Party, in my estimation, is not an American party.

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Speaker 7: They really do and have And when I say Democrat Party,

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Speaker 7: I don't mean all the voters. I mean Trump got

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Speaker 7: a lot of Democrat voters last year. But while I'm

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Speaker 7: talking about the people that are elected officials and the

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Speaker 7: leaders in that party, they have invested themselves in deal

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Speaker 7: legitimizing their political opponents to very scary levels. And now

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Speaker 7: look at what's going on to Brazil this just yesterday,

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Speaker 7: and you see that there's a you know, they wanted

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Speaker 7: they jied bolscenario was thrown to prison.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to throw Donald Trump into prison.

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Speaker 7: Democrats are very serious about it, not just shutting down

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Speaker 7: their political opponents, but eliminating them politically wherever they can,

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Speaker 7: using illegitimate means.

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Speaker 2: That leads to violence, potentially in all these violence.

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Speaker 1: I played a montage here earlier of the rhetoric, of

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Speaker 1: the vile rhetoric of people celebrating online the assassination of

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. And let me tell you something about that.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it over and over again. People are repulsed

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Speaker 1: by it. Right, people are repulsed by it. I do

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Speaker 1: have a bit of news here that just popped up,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to be watching this.

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Speaker 2: An evacuation potentially underway.

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Speaker 1: Is police are scramling to clear out the neighborhood around

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirks, around the killer's home or the suspected killer,

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Speaker 1: if you will, Police president having there happened in the

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Speaker 1: last fifteen or twenty minutes. We'll keep an eye on that.

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Speaker 1: But the vile rhetoric, it begins with labeling somebody Jim,

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Speaker 1: they're a Nazi, they're a white supremacist, they're a fascist.

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Speaker 1: It starts with labeling people, because then you dehumanize them.

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Speaker 1: If you dehumanize them, then they just become a target.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we saw on Wednesday, right.

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Speaker 7: I entirely agree with you, And you know, the real

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Speaker 7: key to how this sort of problem didn't develop in

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Speaker 7: the eighties and nineties is more related to the fact

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Speaker 7: that we didn't do so much of that labeling. We

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Speaker 7: just had differences of opinion. I don't think that what

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Speaker 7: we want is unanimity and UH and bipartisanship. I think

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Speaker 7: that that's that's an illegitimate approach to take in a

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Speaker 7: society that.

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Speaker 2: Where you're going to have people with differences of opinion.

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Speaker 7: What you cannot do in a free American Republic is

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Speaker 7: shut down opposing ideas.

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Speaker 2: You can't. Yet you should never use illegitimate means.

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Speaker 7: We've had problems with how we do our elections right now,

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Speaker 7: which I agree with Donald Trump. Need to go to

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Speaker 7: same day paper based elections, get rid of early voting and.

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Speaker 2: Mail unsolicited mail ballots.

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Speaker 7: And but but you know, when you work, you know,

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Speaker 7: kind of twist the system to benefit you, as they've

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Speaker 7: done entirely in California by the way Republicans are useless

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Speaker 7: in California anymore, then what you cause is something that

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Speaker 7: is greatly harmful.

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Speaker 2: It's very third worldy.

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Speaker 7: I mean the Democrat part again, I'm just repeat, I

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Speaker 7: don't think they're not an American party. They delegitimize their

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Speaker 7: opponents if they can.

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Speaker 1: That's right, dehumanize them and take away the sanity. And

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Speaker 1: that's why they dance on the grave of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: You know, after only a few minutes, Jim got a run.

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Speaker 1: Republicans continue to face criticism and riadyicule from the IRS,

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Speaker 1: this time for showing unfair bias toward conservative organizations trying

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Speaker 1: to file for tax exempt status. Again, more on this

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Speaker 1: coming up. Well, there is other news, believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: The IRS is an institution all Americans have to deal

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Speaker 1: with begrudgingly, and we all seemingly get a fair shape.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes things are not all they seem to be.

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Speaker 1: Is Republicans seem to face the IRS wrath more often

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Speaker 1: than not. But just recently, an irsaid made by the

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Speaker 1: that found her showing unfair bias against Republican organizations when

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Speaker 1: they tried to file for tax except status back in

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Institutions like the IRS should meet the benchmark

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Speaker 1: of neutrality, but.

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Speaker 2: That fact goes out the windows.

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Speaker 1: Some people, including top IRS officials, will go to extreme

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Speaker 1: links to defend this blatant and bias treatment against conservatives,

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Speaker 1: and they get a lot of trouble for it. Here

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Speaker 1: with me to discuss as the CEO for the Alliance

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Speaker 1: for IRS Accountability, Chuck Flint, Chuck, nice.

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Speaker 2: To have you here.

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Speaker 1: Look, the IRS targeted people intentionally, the government using the

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Speaker 1: weight of its ability to say no, boom, just reject it. Right,

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Speaker 1: and these these organizations were left in limbo, some of

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Speaker 1: them for years, some of them never approved.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 12: And all that I did was make comments. I was

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Speaker 12: interviewed about it and said that those individuals such as

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Speaker 12: Holly Pass were unfit for government service, that they placed

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Speaker 12: a cloud over the IRS. And I had a high

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Speaker 12: ranking official from the IRS go right to my personal

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Speaker 12: social media page on LinkedIn and also my companies and

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Speaker 12: accuse me of fear mongering, saying that this was all

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Speaker 12: a farce and what was clearly an attempt to just

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Speaker 12: harass us and you know, and intimidate our organization from

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Speaker 12: doing what we're doing, which is exposing abuses at the

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Speaker 12: IRS and helping individual taxpayers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how.

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Speaker 1: Are these people allowed to stay that this goes back

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Speaker 1: to twenty thirteen, twelve years back, right, and we knew

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Speaker 1: this was going on during the Obama years. We heard

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Speaker 1: account after account of this, right Jack, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is not new, But how is it still going on?

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Speaker 1: How are these people still in their jobs? Because this

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Speaker 1: is not the only one. Call me a little bit jaded.

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Speaker 1: I wanna guess she's not the only one.

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Speaker 2: She's not the only one.

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Speaker 12: And there are a lot more of them that are

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Speaker 12: probably still over there that just you know, haven't been located.

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Speaker 12: And I'll say that I think some of it has

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Speaker 12: to do with the unions. Some of it has to

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Speaker 12: do with just a lack of focus on the IRS

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Speaker 12: and how important it is, Steve. People forget that the

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Speaker 12: IRS holds one of the singular greatest powers in the

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Speaker 12: federal government outside of the ability to incarcerate, and that's

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Speaker 12: the ability to audit people. And it'll make the hair

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Speaker 12: everybody why it's so necessary that groups like the Alliance

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Speaker 12: for IRS Accountability exist because the work is important and

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Speaker 12: the IRS needs to be exposed.

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Speaker 2: The IRS does need to be exposed. Look, I hate

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Speaker 1: I got audited about ten years ago, an audit by

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Speaker 1: me money because it's a compliance on it. I was

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Speaker 1: told it was a random thing. I don't believe that

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Speaker 1: it was random, but that's what I was told.

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Speaker 2: Anyhow, when you go in front of the I R S,

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Speaker 1: Have basically none unless you got a whole army of lawyers.

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Speaker 1: I don't needs to be fair. It's got to be

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Speaker 1: a fair and level playing field. Chuck, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: the last word here, but it's imperative that we clean

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Speaker 1: out this corruption.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else you would call it.

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Speaker 1: It's political corruption impacting nonprofits.

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Speaker 2: Last word to you.

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Speaker 12: It is, Steve, and it's the appearance that matters more

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Speaker 12: than anything else. We have to get rid of the

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Speaker 12: that when they get approached by the I R. S

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Speaker 12: And that's the only way that this is acceptable to you.

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Speaker 12: To get rid of and to end that has to

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Speaker 12: be the goal, and that's where we need to be

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Speaker 12: the IRS. All this political targeting and a bias, it's

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Speaker 12: completely unacceptable. It's been unacceptable for years, and that's why

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Speaker 1: Plus your answers to the America's Voice question of the Day,

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Speaker 1: What should Charlie Kirk's legacy be We'll be right back,

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Speaker 1: all right. Free speech is one of the key tenets

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Speaker 1: we have here in America. The ability to engage in

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Speaker 1: discourse and express our views freely, whether we agree with

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Speaker 1: each other or not, is undoubtedly something we should strive

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Speaker 1: to defend. No one knew that better than our friend

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, who always sought to gain the perspective of

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Speaker 1: opposing voices by giving them the chance to engage, no

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Speaker 1: matter how much they disagreed. Charlie said, come on up,

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Speaker 1: let's have a conversation.

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Speaker 2: That's why he was so special.

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Speaker 1: Charlie's values of family, freedom, and most importantly faith drove

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Speaker 1: every fiber of his being, and his refusal to concede

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Speaker 1: in his mission of offering a different perspective and uniting

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Speaker 1: people even in.

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Speaker 2: The face of imminent danger something to marvel at in respect.

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Speaker 1: As we remember Charlie Kirk and we continue to see

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Speaker 1: the fruits of his labor as we will, we must

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Speaker 1: also remember to keep his values of courage and faith alive.

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Speaker 1: That's what he would have wanted us to do, of course,

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Speaker 1: to keep going to be steadfast.

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Speaker 2: Charlie will never.

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Speaker 1: Be forgotten, and I offer my sincereous condolences to his

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Speaker 1: family in this trying times. As far as what makes

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Speaker 1: America wonderful, I think everyone here would agree that fearless

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Speaker 1: individuals to believe in this country and believe in God,

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Speaker 1: like Charlie Kirk would be high on that list. High

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Speaker 1: on that list. Here's your question of today. What should

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Speaker 1: the legacy of Charlie Kirk be? Home helpers the voice

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Speaker 1: of the youth generation. It's good answer line thirty three seventeen.

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Speaker 1: This generation needs to pick up the mantle with no

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Speaker 1: fear and run with it. Ingin says to follow the way,

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Speaker 1: to know the truth, to live the life of Jesus,

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Speaker 1: our Redeemer, the Son of God, the Father who but

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Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit, comprised the Holy Trinity. Freedom always, writes.

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Speaker 1: A man of faith who brought dialogue of common sense

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Speaker 1: instead of advocating for violence. A political activist who helped

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Speaker 1: kids see God, Family, and country is America's future. Great

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Speaker 1: answers today, my friends, I really appreciate you being here

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Speaker 1: and spending time with us. Watching breaking news. An ice

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Speaker 1: officer severely injured during a traffic stop in which an

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Speaker 1: illegal tried to run him over. He was shot and killed.

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Speaker 1: We're also seeing a lot of information come in from

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood where this killer lived. Apparently some sort of

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Speaker 1: evacuation going on. Bowling coming in now. We're not evacuating him.

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Speaker 1: We're airlifting him into the program now to make sure

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Speaker 1: we can continue coverage right here, Eric, Nice to see you.

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Speaker 3: Good seeing Steve again under trying circumstances. Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 3: been a rough, rough go around here, and I suppose

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Speaker 3: it all around the country at the moment.

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Speaker 2: A lot of heart pour out for Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a week. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: saw earlier. I had Mark Mitchell on here from Rasmus

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Speaker 1: and who's become a good friend of me and this network,

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Speaker 1: and he said, what I have been seeing online, Maybe

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Speaker 1: you've been seeing this two bowling a lot of people

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Speaker 1: saying I'm a Democrat or I'm not particularly political, but

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing these people celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: and I want nothing to do with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people are are appalled.

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Speaker 1: So many people are dancing and laughing and cheering, and

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Speaker 1: you know, the one guy's got we shot Charlie in

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Speaker 1: the neck, and the singing with a bullhorn. I think

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Speaker 1: this is going to backfire on those people. I think

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Speaker 1: that Charlie is going to be bigger in death than

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Speaker 1: he was in life. It's a terrible price to pay,

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Speaker 1: but I think he will be magnified in his The

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Speaker 1: hard work and the and the seeds that he planted

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Speaker 1: will sprout and bear fruit.

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Speaker 2: That's that's truly what I believe.

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Speaker 3: Bulling Stee you and I were live on the air

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Speaker 3: when we had to make the announcement that that you

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Speaker 3: know this this the assassination was a successful assassination, killing,

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Speaker 3: killing Charlie Kirk, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, there was a lot of lot of tears.

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Speaker 3: I I, for for whatever reason, I've been through a

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Speaker 3: lot of trauma myself. Steve and I kind of skipped

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Speaker 3: the grieving moment and went right to anger. I was

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Speaker 3: just at that moment I was and it still am

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Speaker 3: and still am and and a lot of people took

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Speaker 3: him minute to pray and do it, and I just

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Speaker 3: went right to they're gonna, they're gonna wish they hadn't

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Speaker 3: done this. They did it for a reason. They took

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Speaker 3: Charlie out because of his success reaching into young