1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: It's really crazy the life of an NFL running back. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: How quickly a career can change. You get signed to 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: the richest contracts for running back in the NFL. It's 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: just to be crazy. Like when I was getting injured, 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: it was like this, he got paid and got injured 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: into I'm like, yo, these guys been getting injured back 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: to back to back. It just reminds me of like, 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: like I could get through anything in life. Ain't nothing 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: going to compare to what I went through, standing the 10 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: projects and seeing what I saw. And one thing I 11 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: do as well is I embraced the process. I embraced 12 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: the struggle, and I try to find the beautiful things 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: in all of that. Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: The Ravens are heading into a big game against the 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. It feels like we just played these Yeah, 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: we did face the Browns before thereby, so they went 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Ravens by Ravens. Weird little quirk in the schedule, but 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: so be it. Yeah, bring them on anyway, who cares? Yeah, 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: you gotta play him twice once here, once there. That's 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: how it goes exactly. So, heading into a big game, 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens really need to rebound after a gut punch 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: of a loss out in Pittsburgh. And I'll tell you, 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: like we said at the end of our earlier podcast 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: this week, the Ravens win this game, you take two 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: out of three in Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, you feel all 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: right about that? They'd be nine and four and pretty good, 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: pretty good standing in the a f C. Yeah. And 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: and you know, as we always talk about you, you 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: do the tally up the wins and the losses at 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: the start of the season and you know, every Monday 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: for the rest of the way. And if you if 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: you were to say, take two out of three in 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: this stretch, like I think everyone would probably sign up 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: for that. You sign up for that. Um. I think 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens gotta get to ten. I think 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens it's a race to ten wins. I think, 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: so get then that gets you a wild card spot. 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I think that could do a wild card spot. I 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: don't think that gets you a division. I think it's 40 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: really Ravens beat the Browns and the Bengals. I think 41 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: that might that might win the division right there. It 42 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: is really interesting because I think the a f C 43 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: North is is really good and every team is competitive. However, 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: I also could see like eleven and six winning the division. 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean ten seven would win the division. 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: Ten and seven probably doesn't, but it's close. I think 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: ten and seven could win the division. If one of 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: the ten Bengals I know, well then it's a yeah, 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: then you're probably in the tiebreak most likely tiebreaker situation 50 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: there where a couple of teams or ten and seven, 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: So it's that's just to me, like then it'd come 52 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: down to division. Title would come down the division. I 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: love how we're playing this out. So if the Ravens 54 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: and the the Bengals finished at ten and seven at the top, 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the next tiebreaker would be division record. The Ravens, well, 56 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: they lost to Pittsburgh and the Bengals lost to the Brown. Yeah, 57 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean you have to play out. It's hard to 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: know exactly how that would would, but I just think 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: it's kind of fascinating that as good as the a 60 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: f C North is, ten and seven might get it done. Um, 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: and this is a this is a massive game. Similar 62 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: to where the Ravens were going into Pittsburgh last week, 63 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: you're kind of in a position where you can just 64 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: put the Browns out of it. If the Browns lose 65 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: these two games, two straight games to the Ravens, it's 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: gonna be really dire situation for them. There they'll be 67 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: They'll be six and seven at that point and maybe 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: not statistically out of the mix, but mostly out of 69 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: the mix. And so they have to run off four straight. 70 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: The Ravens are again once once again in that position 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: where they could they can knot come out. But even 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: more than that though, to me, this isn't a knockout scenario. 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: This is a Ravens have to win for their own ship. 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: It's not like about the Browns. Like the Ravens need. 75 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Looking at their schedule ahead, I think they need to 76 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: claw out at least two wins, like I said, And honestly, 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the Browns game is one of the better chances at 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: it now. I think they're going to be in every 79 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: game this year. I think like it'll all of them 80 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: will be close. But I like the Browns. I like 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens against the Browns, and they're passing offenses, especially 82 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: considering Marlin's injury. In the state of our secondary right now, 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: the Browns passing offense doesn't scare me as much as 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers does as much 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: as the Rams and and Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford 86 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: and all their weapons, you know, and and then you 87 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: have the Bengals who lighted the Ravens up when they 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: had Marlin Humphrey. Um. So this is an opportunity. I 89 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: think that it's it's a matchup that the Ravens, despite 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: their injuries and weaknesses like, can still very much win. 91 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: You know, it plays into the Ravens hands because really 92 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: their offense is predicated on the run. The Ravens I 93 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: think can stop the run. They can and I will 94 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: be curious see that. You know, they kind of came 95 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: out passing the Browns did um and that last game 96 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: and and is that the approach that they use this week? 97 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll talk more about the Browns game. But 98 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: speaking of the run, Yes, this was this player was 99 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: a bright spot in that game against Pittsburgh. The offense 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: had its struggles, there was lots of frustration, but this 101 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: guy was somebody who I think you can feel good 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: about the way he played in that game. Yeah, that's 103 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: running back to Vonte Freeman. Let's jump into that of 104 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: you all right, Sante, we are thrilled to be with you. 105 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: And I gotta start by saying, for your first Raven 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Steelers game, it looked like you were playing ten Ravens 107 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: Steelers games before you're playing your as man. Did you 108 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: like your first taste of it? It was? It was good. 109 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: It was fun, it was exciting, it was competitive, and 110 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: uh it was great, good energy. Uh. Those are the 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: games that I like, the most, big rivalry games, the 112 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: big moment games when it's time, when it really counts, 113 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: and things like that. Um. I want to be a 114 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: part of those games, and they're fun to be a 115 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: part of. So, you know, it's a big rivalry. I'm 116 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: learning the culture about that rival So it's all good. 117 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: It's fun. Was it unlike anything? I mean, I guess 118 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: it's what. It's Falcon Saints Raven Steelers, different Falcon Saints, 119 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: different vibe. Um, same same same energy. You know, you 120 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: could fill it throughout the whole week. Um. Um this 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: high energy. Uh, everybody just you know, big week talking 122 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: about it. Um. That's how it was. When I was 123 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Um, when we were prepared and get ready 124 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: for New Orleans, that week was just crazy. The town UM, 125 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: you go everywhere all right, Now, I gotta beat them SAT, 126 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: So that's how you know it's a good thing. What's 127 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: this journey been like for you to to come to 128 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: a team and have to kind of hit the ground 129 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: running immediately. I mean, after the injuries to Gus and 130 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: j K, they needed somebody to step up. You come 131 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: in and as part of a trio of veteran backs, 132 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: and if kind of you have emerged to be kind 133 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: of the number one guy right now? Just what's that 134 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: been like for you? UM? Just coming in and playing 135 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: football and doing my job and doing what UM was 136 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: asked to do. UM. I told coach M I just 137 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: want to come in and compete and help out anyway 138 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: I could and play football and have fun and contribute 139 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: UM to get in w's and winning right and anyway 140 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I could help. I would love to be a part 141 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: of it. And I'm just taking advantage of the opportunities 142 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: that's given and making everything count. Now, you're a Florida guy. 143 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: So what did you think when the Ravens called you 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: and started talking to you and said, you know you're 145 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to play with Lamar Jackson. UM. 146 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: The conversation wasn't actually like that, really really like that, 147 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: but in my head it was no, it was cool, 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, but you know, you know, being for South Florida, 149 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: we all have that same lingo. We understand UM and 150 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: it's real competitive UM. We all have like that, that 151 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: that drive that wants to and that toughness that grit 152 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: um and just want to win, want to be great 153 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: and want us to see UM describing for excellence and 154 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: to be able to share the field with Lamar and 155 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, the whole team is just it's an honor 156 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: for me. I'm on year eight, so I'm just happy 157 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: to be doing it and doing it at a high 158 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: level and just having fun with it. Right now, I'm 159 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: just really enjoying the game and having fun with it 160 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: and crafting and like how can I get better next week? 161 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm studying my run, thinking about how can I make 162 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: this a better run? I got five I need to 163 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: try to get to and you know, just things like that. 164 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: But I'm able to dial in and lock in on 165 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: just my game. I failed to play it, That's what 166 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to do and just get better 167 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: every week. What's interesting, I remember when you came in 168 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: for your workout, right, So we sit on this side 169 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: of the building. We sit on the other side of 170 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: the wall, and I remember seeing you and left Bell 171 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: like walking out of workout through the parking lot here 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: to your cars, and I'm just thinking to myself, like, 173 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we got some former starts here and like, 174 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: so what was like, I mean, multi year Pro Bowlers. 175 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: You went to two Pro Bowlers, two Pro Bowls? Second 176 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: third year? What was going through your head after that workout? 177 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: Alongside left me? I'm a I love for ball. Football 178 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: just run through my body, you know what I'm saying. 179 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Everybody around me know that a lot of people around 180 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: most people around me, football run through their body. Um, 181 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: I just took it. I was excited, you know. They 182 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: just still played football and just have fun. Um that 183 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: that's what really exciting about me. But coming here and 184 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: getting his opportunity is it's an honor, you know what 185 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, to still be able to do it at 186 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: a high level and team still want you, and I 187 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: accept it and I love it. Was it when you're 188 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: going through that time and and uh, were you kind 189 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: of wondering like when I when am I going to 190 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: get another opportunity or it's just good, Like how did 191 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: you what were you kind of thinking at that point, 192 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: Like who's gonna call? Like what was the mindset at 193 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: that time? Just understanding the NFL and how everything works. 194 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's all about a patient, being patient, how 195 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: much patient can you have and staying ready, being ready 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: when you're number going to be called um obviously not 197 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: on a long term contract, um, free agents, so you 198 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: could be called up on at any given day. UM. 199 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: So my thing was just to make sure I'm prepared 200 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: and be ready, and I was handling a lot of 201 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: my business, um, a lot of things I do off 202 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: the field, so I was able to stay focused, able 203 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: to work on my body. UM. I really took time 204 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: and just focus on me and get things done. Um. 205 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, while I'm preparing and no waiting on the 206 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: team to call, I was just focusing on my thing, 207 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: doing what I needed to do, taking care of my business, 208 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: getting everything in line so when it's time to play football. Yeah, 209 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's really crazy the life of an 210 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: NFL running back, Like how quickly a career can kind 211 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: of change. I mean after Super fifty one, you score 212 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: a touchdown in Super fifty one, you guys should have 213 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: won that Super Bowl. I'm sure you're well aware, right, 214 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: and then you get signed to the richest contracts for 215 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: running back in the NFL, five year, big time deal 216 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: from the Falcons ritually deserves right, and that's you are 217 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: the one, you know, after injuries at knee, ankle, groin 218 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: surgery and like it's you. You were out of football 219 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: this for most of the summer. I mean, like you 220 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: didn't have a team until the Saint signed you what 221 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: in August? Yeah, so let's uh yeah, right before camp 222 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: I had signed with the Saints, so I had missed 223 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: the whole from all of O T and all of 224 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: training camp, um, which whatever, But for real, I know 225 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: the game. I understand the game, you know, so you 226 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: know I don't need all that. But does it leave does? 227 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: I guess my question is like does it leave you 228 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: saying like, man, it was not long ago when I 229 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: was the toast of the town. Like you all, I 230 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: was the richest running back in the NFL. I'm never 231 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: going to show you all that I got some of that, 232 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: you know. Honestly, I know you might think of BS 233 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: and you, but honestly, I never paid attention to it. 234 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I never I paid attention to it. I took that back. 235 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: I paid attention to it, but it never really it 236 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: never stuck and soaked, soaked in and just you know, 237 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: marinated with with my lifestyle and who I am because 238 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: I knew it was a bunch of talk, you know, 239 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I know it was a bunch of you know, media 240 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: and stuff about making a situation worse than what it is. 241 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Like I was still doing good. The next year, I 242 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: made more millions, I got richer, you know, I was 243 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: always in a good, no situation, and um I had 244 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: a few injuries and stuff like that, but you know, 245 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: I understand the game. It's all about, you know, somebody 246 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: else's gonna get a bigger contract or higher contract and 247 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: it just keep going. Um I really never kind of 248 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: got caught up until like the media and what people 249 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: were saying far as you know, a whole bunch of 250 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: stuff was going on. Too much money, all a lot 251 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: of stuff. So I just kind of stay focused, focus 252 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: and know that you have a lot more to offer 253 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: after those injuries, because that's a question when running back 254 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: has injuries, they're like, oh, how much does he have left? 255 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, And it's just it's 256 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: just be crazy. Like when I was getting injured, it 257 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: was like this, he got paid and got injured, and 258 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, these guys been getting injured back to 259 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: back to back, big big back, big time start running back. 260 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Supposedly injuries happen. Yeah, injuries happened, right, you know. So 261 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: here's kind of a this might catch you off guard, 262 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: a little off the wall here, but we were doing 263 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: some research in your backstory and something that we read 264 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: is that when you were a kid, you worked at 265 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: a funeral hume. Yeah. So, and this was significant in 266 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: shaping you. Tell us about this. So it's a long story. 267 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: I know you're going to practice. I just asked about this. Now, 268 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: it's a long story, but it was definitely life changing story, 269 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I was able to 270 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: see things at a very young age that I don't 271 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: think the average young kids get to see, you know, 272 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: experienced had I worked in the frontal home from an 273 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: edge co uh, the White Jackson Um. What he did 274 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: was he he was a part of Liberty. He still 275 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: is a part of Libery City Warriors Optimist program. It's 276 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: a big program down in South Florida. That's my uncle 277 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: Luke you know, we all run a program and have 278 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of kids. We give back, um Foundation stuff, 279 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: toy drives, Christmas drive, thanksgiving things, a lot a bunch 280 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: of stuff we do through the Foundation and the DeVante 281 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: Freeman Foundation as well. UM. I got off to just well, 282 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: how did how did you work in the funeral home? Okay, okay, okay, okay. 283 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: So so basically, yeah, basically he was my youth coach, 284 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: always giving back to the guys and stuff. So he 285 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: would give us a job, you know, to work in there. 286 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: It was an easy job. Pick up the flowers, carry 287 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: him to the casket, take him out the church, put 288 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: him back in the car. That was our job. We 289 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: didn't have the clean bodies. And but I saw all 290 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: the bodies. I saw plenty of bodies, dead bodies. And 291 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: how are you uh this thing that started like eight man? Yeah, 292 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: And I heard he kind of used that as a 293 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: lesson to you, to say, hey man, it was as 294 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: it was right in Liberty City. On top of that, 295 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the times I knew a lot of 296 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: the people that was in the back back then, he 297 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: would be cleaning them out. I don't seem like him 298 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: take out a skull I mean like not take out 299 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: the skull, but like cleaning it out, like cleaning all 300 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: your guts and and testicles. I would even stomach put 301 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: it in the red bag and tie the red bag up, 302 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: stitch it inside of you. It's so much stuff that 303 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: goes on back there. I mean, what lessons did you 304 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: take from that? It wasn't scary, It wasn't scary. It 305 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: was just more so like that, it was a job. 306 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: It was a job. It's no more than like what 307 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: we're doing right now. It was a job because we 308 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, once you get once you get 309 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: so used to you just get numbed to it, you know, 310 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: seeing it every day, Like right now, if I go 311 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: to the funeral and I take you'll back there, I 312 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: probably walked back that while he's doing the body, and 313 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: y'all are probably freak out, and I'm just like, yeah, 314 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: like y'all probably wouldn't even want to walk. But it's 315 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: so like we're so used to it, and it's so 316 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: natural and it's just but it's definitely you know, my 317 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: my childhood brother, my best friend Anthony Darlin, his guy sign. 318 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: He had to bury him, he had to fix him 319 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: up and stuff. So Um, I saw that. You know 320 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: that that's the stuff that stingsn't hurt when you really 321 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: see your loved ones on those tables and stuff. And 322 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: I had a couple of friends, family members that was 323 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: on his table. So but but but I made a 324 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: lot of money. I made. I made some good money 325 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: when I was so young. Now, it was a sad 326 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: thing to see that and go through that, But as 327 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: a kid to have that type of job, I think 328 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: it was like it was a great job, you know 329 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because we learned so much. We was 330 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: able to see things that the average kids aren't going 331 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: to see. And that's how I took it at that 332 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: young of an age. You know, the opportunity like wow, 333 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to be on this table because guys, 334 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: people was you know, health issues, gun violence, car accidents 335 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: like all types of tragics. So right, And you grew 336 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: up in the pork and beans projects being porking be 337 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: already poring beings. So it's not porking beans, poker beans, 338 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: pok beans really poke being where you have in the being. 339 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: That's how you so like if you hit me up, free, 340 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: say say free, I'm just killing what's good with you 341 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: where you at. I'm in the beans right now. What's up? Beings? 342 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: You've been pok beans? So but I mean, from what 343 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: I understand, like it was a tough it's a tough 344 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: neighborhood to childhood, like being being projects, that's that's that's 345 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: that's a tough neighborhood for real. I've seen. But when 346 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: we was there, when I was living there, and then 347 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: I ain't know it was that bad because I was 348 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: in it every single day. I lived it. That was 349 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: my everyday life. I ain't know nothing else until I 350 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: started making some real money and getting outside of what 351 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: I grew up on and stuff. And it is now 352 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: when I go back and look back, how did I 353 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: survive that people was dying? Like we had murders in 354 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: the projects probably once a week, at least once a week. Man. 355 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: So many people passed around before your little kid got 356 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: shot in the head, a little girl. Man. So many 357 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: people passed away right from all mostly from gun violence. 358 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: So how did how did that motivate you? How did 359 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: that make you the man that you are? And you know, 360 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: it just reminds me of like like I could get 361 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: through anything in life. Ain't nothing going compared to what 362 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: I went through standing them projects and seeing what I 363 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: saw in that funeral home, like, ain't too much things 364 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: could add up to that. So when I'm going through 365 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: a tough time and I might be having, you know, 366 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: some struggles at some then I'm mentally I already know 367 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get through it. And one thing I do 368 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: as well is I embrace the suck. I embraced the process. 369 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: I embraced the struggle, and I try to find the 370 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: beautiful things and all of that when it's bad, when 371 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: it's not going so good for me. And that's what 372 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: gets me about. Can I look at I saw my grandma, 373 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: my mom. They used to catch the bus and stuff 374 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: to go to work every single day, to clock in, 375 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: to make not nothing for real. So to see them 376 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: do that, that was all the motivation I ever needed. 377 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: That stick with me for the rest of my life. 378 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't need to see no more other motivation. I 379 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: get it all from that. And awesome, Well, we know 380 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: you gotta get out to practical. You got an incredible story, 381 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: and UH have to have you back. You know you 382 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: gotta go. We got some more time to chop it up. Man. 383 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: Whenever we get ather, no, no, not right now, not today, 384 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Not today. I definitely will get back up and we 385 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: could really just chop it up and just go through everything. 386 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: I gotta go get beats. I take you the hot doll. 387 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: All right, thank you. Sunday is right around the corner. 388 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Draft your lineups now to feel the sweat. 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Yeah, I really, And he said so, man, 398 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: he might he might be back at some point on 399 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: the lounge. We can make a you know, return, He 400 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: could certainly make a return appearance. He would just warm 401 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: it up. You know, we're getting into our groove and 402 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: then he had to get out to practice. You know, 403 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: we should have asked, horrible if we can push practice back, 404 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: like would have been a good request to put in. Yeah, 405 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: he definitely would have been down with it. This podcast, 406 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: this podcast, we're rolling here, we settled in. We got 407 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: a good I'm going just you know, if he's like 408 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: to practice league to practice exactly exactly, he'd understand. I did. 409 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: I did. Like when you asked him, you know what 410 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: it was like to miss Otis and you're like, it's fine, 411 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: it was great. Yeah, that was kind of funny anyway. 412 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: I mean it's I just we didn't have a lot 413 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: of time to get into DeVante's backstory. But just for 414 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: fans out there who aren't super familiar with his career trajectory, 415 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: I kind of jumped into the middle right with the 416 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Um, but here here's a fourth round pick 417 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: out of Florida State who comes in and his second 418 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: year in Atlanta really blows up. Went to a Pro Bowl. 419 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: In his second year in uhen he had the most 420 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: touchdowns in the league. Sorry, No, led the league's running 421 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: backs in touchdowns scored with eleven scored eleven touchdowns and 422 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: backback years. Went to the Pro Bowl both of those years. 423 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: So like, early success for this guy. Um, then he 424 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: like we said, went to the Super Bowl with the Falcons. 425 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: He was part of that team in twenty sixteen that 426 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: went to overtime with the Patriots. Should have won, they 427 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: got a little too past half at the end. M 428 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: That's see, that's where we wanted to ask him some questions. 429 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: Should you guys have run the ball instead of setting 430 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: up Matt Ryan for a commercial sec? I wonder if 431 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: you would have had an opinion on that one. Yeah, 432 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: I think you probably would. When you say, you know, 433 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: you should have won that game, he's kind of nodded 434 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: his head his head. Yeah, thanks a lot, jerk. I 435 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: am well aware of the history on that one. Yeah, yeah. So. Um. 436 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: Then then, like I was saying, I mean, so gets 437 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: that big contract heading into the seventeen year uh five year, 438 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: forty one million dollar contract. Then knee injury Week one 439 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: of eighteen right then he played Week five, comes back, 440 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: injured his foot and growing put on the shelves. Twenty 441 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: eight team was a wash for Freeman. Right comes back. 442 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, the Falcons just weren't a very good team. 443 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: They went seven and nine. They were just kind of struggling. 444 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: He had an okay year, gets released after that season, 445 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: so we got released in March of three years after 446 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: signing this mega deal. I mean that's kind of wild. 447 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: And uh, then he goes to the Giants, New York 448 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Giants and goes on I R on November four with 449 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: an ankle injury, lands on the Bills practice squad at 450 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: the end of that season, you know, maybe gonna play 451 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: in the playoffs for them last year, which is this 452 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: is your point. This is like two around, like bouncing around, 453 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: like bousing all the way here to Baltimore. Is is 454 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of the end of the bounsing. I mean basically, like, 455 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. You end up on the Bills practice squad, 456 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: but two years before you're signing a monster contract, three 457 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: years free years four, I mean, it's just and and 458 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: in a similar situation lev On Bell, you know, when 459 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens had him and here he's practice squad. I 460 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: think it's moved to the active roster three years before 461 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: he signed a monster deal and changed in the with 462 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: the snap of finger, uh finger, snap of your fingers? 463 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: Your finger? Do you snap your finger? You snap your fingers? 464 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: I think you snapped you snap your finger and your 465 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: thumb finger just like so fast and that position. Yeah, 466 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: that one. Just see. I mean, come on, quarterbacks can 467 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: hang on from back quarterback for a decade. That that's 468 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: that shop will tell you something about that. Yeah, that's 469 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: a different situation right there. If you have an injury, 470 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the backup quarterback. Um, but that's my job. 471 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: I want the backupard. Yes, I'm all about that job. 472 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: Maybe someday. Yeah you still got time. I still got time. Um. 473 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: But just it's just really interesting to hear from him 474 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: and how his mindset didn't you know, he just didn't 475 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: buy into all that stuff, Like he knew he still 476 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: had something to offer and kept that positive attitude and 477 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: came here and he's done it. And you know, we've 478 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: talked about the lack of a run game outside of Lamar, 479 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: and you know, it's taken a lot of a lot 480 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: of heat. Let's all remember, these guys got thrown in 481 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: at the last minute, like they had to pick up 482 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: a complex offense on the fly. Really, and I think 483 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Devonte Freeman's evidence of he's just getting better, you know, 484 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: And and like is he had a point in his 485 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: career where he's as physically as explosive as he was 486 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: early proble years? No, probably not, you know, but like, 487 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: I think that he deserves credit and this running game 488 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: deserves credit for grinding out some tough yards. Like the 489 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: stats don't look good, but in some key games, key moments, 490 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: they've round out some yards. And now we're we've been 491 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: spoiled here in Baltimore in the running back situation, the 492 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: ground game the past two years record setting units, Like 493 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: we're we like kick dirt on a three or four 494 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: yard run, but depending on the situation and the circumstances, 495 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: like that could be a very critical three or four 496 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: yard run. And I have to give credit to DeVante 497 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: Freeman for grinding out some of those yards. He he 498 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: definitely deserves credit for that. And as you know, you 499 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: look at the back half of the season here, I 500 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: think he's gonna play a really important role in He 501 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: was huge in that game against Pittsburgh. The old cliche. 502 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I can hear Terrel Slugs saying it, 503 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, pack your defense, pack your running game. When 504 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: you get into these cold you know, it just starts. 505 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: Today felt like an an f C North week. Lamar 506 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: walks out. You know, you can see his bread during 507 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: his press conference. You're going to Cleveland. It's thirty degrees 508 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: out there, snow this morning, snowflowers this morning. It's like, Okay, 509 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: it's December football, it's AFC North football. Uh. DeVonta Freeman 510 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: is gonna be a really key player over these next 511 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: five games as the Ravens trying to make it to 512 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Absolutely, and he needs to take some of 513 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: the pressure off this passing offense that's not clicking right 514 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: now and now it's got to be better than it 515 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: has been, certainly, but like you need that run game 516 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: to take some pressure off, put him in some more 517 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: manageable third down situations. You know, I have Davante Freeman 518 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: starting this week and my fantasy team for good reason. Well, 519 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: there you go. I should have told it. Well, you're 520 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: also you're hoping for the podcast bump. Of course, I'm 521 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: counting on the podcast. You worked down on the podcast bump. Yeah, 522 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: that's smart. Um. So this week, obviously, the Browns are 523 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: going to Cleveland. Last time they went to Cleveland, it's 524 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: just that crazy game, back and forth, flamargoes into locker room, 525 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: comes back. If there was the miracle pass, I mean 526 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: that was an instant classic. Uh, it would be fun 527 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: to get an offensive performance like that. In this game. Huh, 528 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I'll take whatever. I'll take whatever leads 529 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: to a doub So, you know, I think that this 530 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: is an interesting game because I think the Browns, you know, 531 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: the Browns are coming off that by and they're banged up. 532 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: They've been banged up, particularly Baker Mayfield, so he's got 533 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: a little time to get healthy here. Now. It seems 534 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: like his injuries aren't like the give me one week 535 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: and I'm back to whole, full strength. I think he's 536 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: just gonna be playing hurt the rest of the way. Um. 537 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: But I think that Kevin Stefanski and that coaching staff 538 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: is a good staff, and so they went through a 539 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: they went through a self scouting process, and I just 540 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: will be curious to see how a game plan is different, 541 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: what wrinkles they roll out, like maybe they roll out 542 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: the Jarvis Lantry pass. I'm just gonna say that I 543 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: don't think that one's gonna be in there. And also 544 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: we got this idea. I think Kareem Hunt is going 545 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: to be more of a factor than he was in 546 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: the last game. That was his first game back from 547 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: the injury. So I think having more time to recover, 548 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: he's going to be act he's a big game for 549 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens run defense, like they did not they were 550 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: shut down, I mean four to the yards last meeting 551 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: for their running backs. I am sure they took that personally. 552 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: I am sure they are devoted to turning that stat 553 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: around and it's on the Ravens defense to say. But 554 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: but at the same time, they're looking at the cornerback situation, 555 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: probably saying, are we sure we want to keep run 556 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: of the ball, because I'd really like to test out 557 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: who whoever's I mean, Anthony Avern has been the most 558 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: targeted cornerback in the NFL. You think about the guy 559 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah, now he now he's the vet out there, 560 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: and so like it'll be interesting to see how much 561 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: they want to attack that or say, we need to 562 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: get this ground game going better than certainly than we did, 563 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: you know the last time we face the Ravens. Yeah, 564 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a really interesting dianic in this game, 565 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Like do the Browns kind of go back to their 566 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: bread and butter, which is the run game, or do 567 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: they attack the Ravens weakness right? And I'll be you know, 568 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: I'll also be interested to see who the Ravens end 569 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: up putting out there. Maybe it's Chris Westrey. Uh's Jimmy Smith. 570 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's Jimmy Smith. Um, you know, Jimmy's got the 571 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: experience and he played a lot of snaps, uh last 572 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: week against Pittsburgh. Western has been dealing with injuries. He's 573 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: only played three games I believe this year, got one start, 574 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: and so, like Harball has answering my question, what do 575 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: you think of Chris rest this year? Yeah, I haven't 576 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: seen much of him, I know, exactly basically exactly. So 577 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: I think he's got potential and he has physical attributes 578 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: that are you know, make decentlizing. Yeah, all right, here 579 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: we go. But at the same time, he also, you know, 580 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: he's been dealing with knee thigh, has been able to 581 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: stay on the field, so you know, you know, I 582 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: also I do wonder, you know, Tavon Young's health is 583 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: part of the equation here. Like Tavon Young, as everyone knows, 584 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: is best suited as an inside nickel that you were 585 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: throwing out that he could move outside, I don't see 586 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: that happening. I do not see that he's done it before. 587 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: At the end of the way back when, way back 588 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: when like his rookie year, and the preference is certainly 589 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: to keep him inside. But you know Westree who's playing slot, 590 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: then well, I know that would be that would be 591 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: a lot. I think you're you're off your rocker on 592 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: that the ta on I think I'm saying, I think 593 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: it's more likely than if you were talking like wild scenarios. 594 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: More likely. What if Brandon Stevens were to run more 595 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: at cornerback than safety and they used Geno at safety. 596 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: I think that's the possibility to UM, I don't look 597 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: Tavon Young going outside is not the if. I'm you know, 598 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: saying my prediction. That's not my prediction. I'm just saying 599 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: it is an option, and I think that you have 600 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: to at the end of the day. It's like you 601 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: want to get your best corners on the field. Um. 602 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: And I think that if they were just going with 603 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: two corners and didn't need a slot, maybe you're saying 604 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: maybe that guy would be tav correct? Is he is? 605 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: He your second best corner even in health? Healthy is 606 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: issue for him. But you mean Smith's been dealing with 607 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: injuries and Western has been dealing with injuries, Like I mean, 608 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: going into the last couple of games, every cornerback except 609 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: Marlin has been on the injury but well actually Marlin 610 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: was on the injury report with the illness, so every 611 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: corner has been on the injury report. Now Marlin has 612 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: done for the season. Now Covon Seymour's coming back from 613 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: the COVID list, so that also provides another depth piece. 614 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: And who knows how many snaps will play and you 615 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: could see double digit snaps in this game. Um so yes, 616 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: to our original point, it will be very interesting to 617 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: see how the Browns attack the Ravens defense. And quite frankly, 618 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: let's not forget the other big injury right now is 619 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: Patrick McCarey suffered a hand the injury, you're gonna be 620 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: out for several weeks. And oh, by the way, here 621 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: comes you know, Jadeveon Clowney and Miles Garrett. You know, 622 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: we just got done with t J. Watt wreck in 623 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: the game and I think he's the sack leader now. 624 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: The guy before him was Myles Garrett and who you 625 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: know had a sack against Lamar Jackson in that game, 626 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, in the previous games. So like well, this, this, yeah, 627 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: this is goes to a good question. And this you 628 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 629 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: dot net. Theodore Mercer writes, Hey, Fellows, it's Cam. Do 630 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: you think we need to make changes on the offensive line. 631 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: You can move Tyree Phillips back to left guard and 632 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: maybe try Band Cleveland at right tackle going up against 633 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if Benk Cleveland's ever played tackle. I mean, 634 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: he was a guard throughout his college career. He didn't 635 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: play tackle at all. Tyree Phillips was a college tackle. 636 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,479 Speaker 1: Well you know you know who did suggest Bank Cleveland 637 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: at right tackle? Our guy chemical really, yeah, he did. 638 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: He suggested giving him a shot at right tackle, thought 639 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: that he could play physically. I mean, he's got size, 640 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: he's got long arms. I think at this point in 641 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: the season he hasn't played a snap even in practice 642 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: at right tackle practice in training camp, I haven't seen. Yeah, 643 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't know since the season started, but he's been 644 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: injured for much of that. Yeah, I mean, like that 645 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: would be a tall task. I think it would. I agree, 646 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: I think it would be a tall task. I think 647 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: maybe rather than putting him at right tackle, what about 648 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: putting just putting him at left guard, just putting him 649 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: in the game, I think in his natural position. Yeah, 650 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm interested in seeing what he has, at least a 651 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: timeshare with Ben Powers. I mean that's the way it 652 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: was trending before, before his knee and Dree, it looked 653 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: like he was gonna he was gradually getting more and 654 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: more snaps and would take over the lead share at 655 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: least or the starting role there. So, Um, I would 656 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: expect that the Ravens could move him back into the rotation. Yeah, 657 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: but I don't think that it's going to be at 658 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 1: right tackle. I I honestly think it's Tyree Phillips. Now. 659 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: Juan James return to the practice field on Wednesday yesterday. Um, 660 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: and so is he an option that's a possibility back 661 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: from a torn achilles? And I don't think it's gonna 662 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: be for this game. I mean, you're not gonna get 663 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: three practices in and say all right, I'm ready to 664 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: go from a torn achilles. But I'm just saying, like, 665 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: if McCarry's out for several weeks, can can Juan James 666 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 1: cover for a couple of those weeks? How long does 667 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: it take him to get up to speed? Is he 668 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: ever gonna I don't know that he's ever gonna get 669 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: up to speed enough to be back this season. But 670 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a possibility. Yeah, to me a 671 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: man on him, it's just like he's got to get 672 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot there's a lot of rusts that has 673 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: to be shaken off. Yeah, And like I mean, I 674 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of fan injury gun Jouan james 675 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: Um because the Ravens signed it with the possibility he 676 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: could come back potentially this year. Maybe it's something for 677 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: next year, but like, the guy has not played football 678 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: in two years. I mean he didn't. He hasn't played 679 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: it all this year and kids come off with torn achilles. 680 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: He opted out in the season, so he was one 681 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: of the COVID opt outs, and then in twenty nineteen, uh, 682 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: he had just three starts and then a knee injury 683 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: forced him out for the rest of the season. So 684 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: it's not like, like I know that this guy is 685 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: a talented player and has a ton of potential, but 686 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: like three games and then three practices. I know you're 687 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: not saying that he's gonna come back and play this week. 688 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: But like I mean, there's a lot of I guess 689 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: questions on his ability to get back on the field 690 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: this year, and it seems like it's an uphill battle, 691 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I mean, I think that, like, you 692 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: gotta let him get some practice time under's belt before 693 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: thinking that this guy is going to be the answer 694 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: for the offensive line. Honestly, I think it's Hyree Phillips. 695 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: I think I think the Ravens just kind of have 696 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: to ride it out with Tyree. I don't know there's 697 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: a better solution, um. And you know, I mean, they 698 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: can win games with Tyree Phillips the right tackle. They 699 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: did it last year, you know, down the stretch, they 700 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: won a number a lot of games with Tyree Phillips 701 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: a right tackle. Have we all forgotten how talented of 702 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: a running back he is? Maybe that's the answer. I 703 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: think we made that same joke. We made that same 704 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: joke like to two podcasts. I'm sure we did. We 705 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: were psyched jokes all the time. We should ask Davonte 706 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: Freeman about that. Maybe give Tyree Phillips so he was around. 707 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he went to the tape on that, UM, 708 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: But I mean I think that they just kind of 709 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: have to ride it out. And let's let's also, I know, 710 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: like the O lines taking a lot of heat right now, 711 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: and I get it right, I think they could be 712 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: blocking better. It hasn't been excellent. I would say, I 713 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: just want to put out two things. Okay, any offensive line, 714 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: even the best in the league, if it were facing 715 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: it as many blizzes and as heavy of blisses as 716 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens were right now, they'd be given up some 717 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: quarterback pressures, hits and sex any of them, especially if 718 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: you're going up against t. J. Watt. That's the second 719 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: point you jumped ahead. The Ravens have faced three of 720 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: the top pass rushers in the league the past three weeks. Right, 721 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: you had Miles Garrett from the Browns, Robert Quinn from 722 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: the Bears, who is double digit sacks already, and uh 723 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: t J. Watt. So I mean you've had some stud 724 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: game records that you've gone against. So I'm just saying 725 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: those are two factors. And the Ravens got another one 726 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: this They got a rematch with Miles Garrett's not gonna 727 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: get any easy. You've got another rematch with wat on 728 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: the on the schedule, But I think Tyree Phillips is 729 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: just gonna have to grind it out. Yeah, So look, 730 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be um. I think it. This 731 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: one feels to me like another close game. It just well, sorry, 732 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: I want to add one more thing to that, to 733 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: the gates of that pass rush. Against the Browns, the 734 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: Ravens went to more of a quick passing game, like 735 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: they were not taking many shots. It was getting the 736 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: ball out of la Mar's hands, you know, to try 737 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: to minimize the pressure. I think they have to use 738 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: more of that now. The issue is Lamar has to 739 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: get the ball out of his hands quick right, which 740 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: was obviously a problem in Pittsburgh. It's been a little 741 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: bit of an issue. Like he had the one fade 742 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: away touchdown to Mark Andrews against the Browns, and then 743 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: it seemed like he thought he could do that with 744 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: more regularity against the Steelers and it just didn't work. 745 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: And so like he's got to get the ball. If 746 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: they were going to play that style of get the 747 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: ball out of your hands and the gate their pass 748 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,479 Speaker 1: for us to agree, he's got to deliver. I also 749 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: am curious if there were some questions today about up 750 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: tempo stuff, and I know the fans have sent in 751 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: a lot of questions about the up tempo seems like 752 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: that could be and it seems like that could be 753 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: an option. Lamar Jackson talked about how he likes it 754 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: and feels like it's working. Um it worked on the 755 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: last drive of the game, tell you that much. Um So, 756 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see if the Ravens, you know, 757 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: try that early in games so kind of jump start 758 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: thanks when you get some blowing coverages that way, which 759 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: they got on that last drive, like Devin Duburne's big 760 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: reception over the middle and the last touch on drive, 761 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: blowing coverage just popped wide open over the middle of 762 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: Lamar hit him. And like so when you play that 763 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: up tip to a style you have, it just puts 764 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: the defense under more pressure to communicate quickly and get 765 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: it all right, and mistakes happen. The Ravens know they've 766 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: had some blue coverage too, So I like that idea. 767 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: I certainly do. And it seems to like I think 768 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens kind of got got to get Lamar out 769 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: of this rut, and that's one way to maybe get 770 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,959 Speaker 1: him out of the rut. Like, yeah, just make change 771 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: things up a little bit, because it's kind of in 772 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: his head a little bit, I think, And if you're 773 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: playing fast, then maybe you're thinking less, you know. So 774 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: I think I'll be watching that, you know, especially early 775 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: if the Ravens trying to go that route. So anyway, 776 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. As always, you can reach us at 777 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. And we're 778 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: getting ready to go to Cleveland level Cleveland Clan. That 779 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: was like talking We're getting ready to go to Cleveland 780 00:38:48,600 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: for Big Bag that by Big Big Big when