1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: the common threads that bind them all. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: So what's happening in women's basketball right now is what 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: we've been trying to get to for almost thirty years. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: From the stadiums where athletes break barriers and set records. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Kydon Park broke them all time single game assists record. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: This is crazy for rookies to be doing. Our discussions 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: will uncover the vital connections between these realms and the 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: community we create. In each episode, we'll sit down with athletes, 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: political analysts, and culture critics, because at the core of 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: it all, how we see one issue shines the light 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: on all others. Welcome to Naked Sports. I'm your host, 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Carrie Champion. Hey, everybody, welcome back to another edition. It's edition, 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: not a another edition of Naked Sports. It's how you've 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: been family. I hope you have been well. I have 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: been pretty well. I had a great birthday month. My 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: friends took really good care of me. My friends and 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: my family took really good care of me, and I 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: was really really happy, and I was just telling people 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: I feel more. I feel more in touch with my tribe, 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: like I know who my tribe is, and so I, 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: as a result, wanted to just give a brief shout 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: out to my girls, right. I don't want to forget 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: anybody but my best friend, Kendra, Tommy Mosama, Jamel, Kelly, 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Marci Fabiola. I had a beautiful crew of people who 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: really really nurtured me and took care of me during 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: my entire birthday month. And I felt so grateful. You 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: know how people say grateful and blessed, but I felt 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: so loved, so blessed, so happy. It was such a 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: euphoric feeling. And I really have been saying to myself, 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I can keep that feeling. I can keep my crew 33 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: and my circle tight. I can I can protect that 34 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: little precious part that I don't want to give out 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: to everyone else. And and as and as a result, 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: this makes me a better person. I'm happier, I'm lighter, 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm all of the things and the reason why it 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: meant so much to me now that I give it 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: thought and I don't normally do this, but I'm just 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: giving you guys an update. This is a bit of 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: an update slash vent before we get into the podcast, 42 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: but I'm giving you this message because it helped me 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: as well. I know that we can control our surroundings 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: the surround We can't control who we work with, we 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: can't control what happens when you walk down the street, 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: but we can control our intimate surroundings. We can create 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of heaven here on earth, I believe, 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: especially during the times in which we live in today. 49 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: And I felt that during this past month as I 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: selllebrated with my friends and family, it was very intentional 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: how I celebrated. I was very vulnerable about wanting to 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: celebrate with the people that I feel safe and loved with. 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: And why I crave that because it was a craving 54 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: from my body. While I was craving that, I realized 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: it was simply because I had been dealing with a 56 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: lot of people in my life who were frenemies and 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what it was. I don't I 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: didn't even know I was dealing with that. I didn't 59 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: even know it was a term, y'all. So the other 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: day on social media, not as if you know, all 61 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the wisdom is there, but I started to listen to 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Robert Green, and he was on the podcast Diary of CEO. 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: We love that podcast. Shout out to my producer who 64 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: told me about it, jah Quies, which she just reminded me. 65 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you did. You turned me onto that. 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: But anyway, Robert Green, this is his discussion on frenemies 67 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: and I want you to listen to this. Robert Green 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: highlights how envy and hidden can petitiveness can manifest in 69 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: relationships disguised as friendships and then. 70 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: Lo and behold, you start noticing all kinds of behavior 71 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: that's very ugly that you weren't expected because you're they're 72 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: your friend. They start saying bitchy comments that get under 73 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: your skin, that makes you feel insecure. They take things 74 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: from you, they act in ways that are hurtful, but 75 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: because they're your friend, your for instancetinct is to blame yourself. Well, 76 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: maybe it's my fault that they've done this, Maybe I'm 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: actually to blame for what they're saying, et cetera, et cetera. 78 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: So I believe behind the freeminemy's phenomenon is this phenomenon 79 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: of envy where the person secretly wants what you have 80 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: and they're becoming your friends that they can wound you. 81 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: We simply call them haters today, right, But if you 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: don't want to label something, and you can tell something 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: is off, like there are people in your life that 84 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily haters, but something is off. It's a feeling 85 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: that you get when you walk away. It is a 86 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: feeling that I don't necessarily feel safe to share everything here. 87 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, I call you a friend, and we are friendly, 88 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: and we hang out and maybe we have vacation together. 89 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Who the heck knows, I don't know. But listen to 90 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: this term. And I know you've heard it before, and 91 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: I know you've heard people say so and so's a frenemy. 92 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: But this is a technical term, and I want to 93 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: give you the definition textbook. These frenemies may appear friendly 94 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: while secretly harboring resentment or jealousy towards the other person's 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: success and or status or looks or place in life. 96 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: Robert Green explains that this can lead to subtle acts 97 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: of sabotage, devaluation of achievements, or emotional manipulation under the 98 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: guise of friendship, secret envy, passive aggression, overly eager friendship, 99 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: information gab, the ring, getting all in your business. Now 100 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: we all, whether we know it or not have interacted 101 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: and or have someone who feels like a frenemy in 102 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: our life. And the reason it's so important for me 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: to talk about this now is because what I just 104 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: experienced this past month with all my tribe and my 105 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: friends and my family, that euphoria. I hadn't been dealing with, 106 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: that I've been missing that, That's what my body was 107 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: craving because I realized, in different circumstances, I had a 108 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: lot of frenemies. And I don't know if these people 109 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: are intentionally being frenemies. I don't know if this is 110 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: something that people can identify readily within themselves. But what 111 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: I was able to at least understand for me is 112 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: that I ain't got to deal with it. I ain't 113 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: got to deal with it. Meaning you can create your 114 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: own slice of heaven right here on earth. You can 115 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: choose to interact when you're not at work, when you're 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: in your off time, when you're in that precious relaxation time, 117 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: you can pick and choose. You can curate an environment 118 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: that feels safe and friendly. And I encourage everybody today 119 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: to do that, to start doing that. Look at the 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: world that we live in right now, and while you 121 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: might be saying, Carrie, this is you don't have to 122 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: do with sports. Yeah, no, it's all the same. Sports culture, politics, 123 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: all of these things blend in with the daily lives 124 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: that we lead. And what I am saying to you 125 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: is is that while we are out here navigating this 126 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: world of sports, culture and politics and whatever it may 127 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: be that you're navigating, make sure that you take a 128 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: lot of time, a lot of time and curate your 129 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: own little slice of heaven with your tribe. It could 130 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: be your family, it could be your family and friends, 131 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: it could be one best friend, it could be whomever. 132 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: But you make sure you find If you're one, you're lucky, right. 133 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: If you got more than one, you are blessed. And 134 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: you find this tribe and you make sure that you 135 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: are vulnerable with them, and you tell them what you need. 136 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm saying it's so important to 137 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: do it in today's cccity is because every time we 138 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: turn on the TV, or every time we turn on 139 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: our phones, someone's fighting, someone's lying, someone's calling someone a name. 140 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: This country is so polarized now there isn't nuance. There 141 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: is no such thing as nuance to any of our 142 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: conversations it's either you're on this side or that side. 143 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: It's black and it's white, and that is just not 144 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: how life is. People are more defensive. People think because 145 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: you disagree with them, that you might be in a 146 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: class that's different than theirs, or you might be a Republican, 147 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: or you might be a Democrat. You can't just be 148 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: in society. And I feel it obviously a little more 149 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: than other people. But what I have I have decided 150 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: for me and what I mean, I feel it a 151 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: little bit more. I feel it in my workspace. Obviously, 152 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: I fill it in sometimes when I'm doing this podcast, 153 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: depending on who I'm talking to. I have decided that, 154 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: because this is the world in which we live in, 155 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: I have to create my own. I hear a lot 156 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: of people talking about I'm moving. I'm moving, I'm moving 157 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: from America. I'm gonna go live in Portugal. I know. 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: I said that too. I went to Portugal. I'm not 159 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: going to move there though, but that was my thought process. 160 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I got to get out of here as crazy and 161 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: it is. It's all of those things, and you can 162 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: still believe that you need to leave this country whatever, 163 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: but in the meantime, it is imperative to have balance 164 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: that allows you to feel safe and loved and protected. 165 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: And if you don't have that, try to create it. 166 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: But you don't have to. There's no rule in life 167 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: that says you have to be friends with people who 168 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: don't really like you. Like all of us have had 169 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: that one friend where you're like, gosh, she loves hanging 170 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: out with me, but I don't think she really liked 171 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: me because she says these little digs and jabs, and 172 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know where they're coming from. She's 173 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: calling me names or judging me, and I haven't really 174 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: talked to Sheila like that. I don't know why she 175 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: would say that. She doesn't have all the information. Hey 176 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: guess what, I too could be a friend of me 177 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: in someone's mind, but I choose if I don't like you, 178 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to hang out. I just removed myself 179 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: from the situation. I wouldn't pretend to be your friend 180 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: and take digs at you. I don't know what kind 181 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: of crazy psychology that is. But here's the deal. You 182 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: don't have to deal with it. In today's society, it 183 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: is so important to have people around you that make 184 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: you feel safe. Let's bring that back, Let's make that trending, 185 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: Let's make that popular. And I say that because coming 186 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: off of this past month of my birthday, I was like, Oh, 187 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: this is this is a life that I can live. 188 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: This is something that I really enjoy. So it made 189 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: sense to me. While I was at work last week 190 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: at CNN, I got into it with Scott Jennings in 191 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: a way that I had never gotten into it with 192 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: him before. And I normally don't allow him to bother me. 193 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: I kind of laugh it off. I take the high road, 194 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't get into it. I ignore his little biity comments. 195 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: But this time he really was just lying. He always, 196 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion, doesn't tell the truth. But this time 197 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: he's being a real liar. And I said, as opposed 198 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: to a not so real liar. And I said to 199 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: him during commercial break, I was like, you're such a liar. 200 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: And I just was like it just clicked to me. 201 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: I was like, you'll never tell the truth because you 202 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: have a party line and you have a party message, 203 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: and you're doing a personal audition for the president of 204 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: this country. And it doesn't matter what I say. It 205 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how I say it, it doesn't even matter 206 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: if it makes sense to you or not, you are 207 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: going to try your best to refute and or make 208 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: me feel like I am not qualified, and it will 209 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: only matter to the people who listen to you. They 210 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: will believe you. Conversely, you know, I posted him on 211 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: my page, and the people who follow me believe me. 212 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: To my point, we are so divided in this society. 213 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: But I said to myself, you know what, No, mass 214 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be Ontie yelling at you, trying to 215 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: convince you that Barack Obama's Nobel Peace Prize wasn't affirmative action. 216 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna do that. That's just silly Baraco. 217 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: First of all, Barack Obama a hat been president for 218 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: how long? Why are we still talking about this man? 219 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: Why do we still talk about this man if he's 220 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: still the president? Why are you still criticizing this man 221 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: who cares. He's not in president nomore. He's someone on 222 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Martha's vineyard golfing, and you're talking about whether or not 223 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: his Nobel Peace Prize was affirmative action because Don Junior 224 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: said it. This is ridiculous, and I will not. I 225 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: will not. I will not tolerate nonsense anymore, meaning I 226 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: can pick and choose. I can still be just as 227 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: effective as what I do what I do on CNN 228 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: without being on a round table with that man. I 229 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: can be just as effective with this podcast and using 230 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: my voice to platform people who are trying to do 231 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: great things in today's society, whether that be talking about 232 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: sports and or culture and or politics. So I will 233 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: not and I think that we should really as a 234 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: society focus on the things that bring us joy when 235 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: we don't have to be around the people that don't 236 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: bring us joy. Meaning you might work with some people 237 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: and you don't like them as well. You know what 238 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. You might have a mother in law 239 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: that you don't love so much. Right, I'm making up something, 240 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: But the reality is is that we can create our 241 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: own I did that in real time without realizing I 242 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: was doing that, And so I encourage you to disassociate 243 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: with that frenemy. Don't allow yourself to be around the 244 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: people that make you think about them at night if 245 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: they are doing something inappropriate to you. If you feel 246 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: that if you're in company with people that you know 247 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: don't really like you, you gotta ask yourself why life 248 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: is too short? I can't sit around with people who 249 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: who choose not to like me for whatever reasons. Life 250 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: is entirely too short, and there is so much going 251 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: on in this world that we have to create an 252 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: oasis otherwise we're gonna lose our minds. Every morning we 253 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: wake up, there's a new headline, there's a new a 254 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: new scandal, there's a new argument on Twitter between Elon 255 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Musk and the president of this country. There's a new 256 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and by the way, it's not new. We are all 257 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: very aware of what is happening. But during this time, 258 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: during this mess, it's important more important to have some 259 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: people that really hold you down. A person, some people, 260 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: a family, a friend. I don't know. Maybe you need 261 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: to make an ai friend who knows you're right, because 262 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people I truly feel are lonely and 263 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: they don't know how to get out of this lonely space. 264 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: So they're angry, and then anger allows them to live 265 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: in this space where they have to pick sides. We 266 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: can find our heaven. I just did it. At this 267 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: big age, didn't realize I could do it. And when 268 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I was listening to Robert Green have that conversation about frenemies, 269 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: it just translated to more than just friends. It's just 270 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: people that are in your space and you're like, this 271 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel well. I might have to interact 272 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: with them, I might have to work with them, but 273 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I am not going to give them any of my 274 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: valuable time, the time that makes me feel sane and safe, 275 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: the time that I'm going to give to those who 276 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: actually care about me. In short, In short, surround yourself. 277 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: It could be one person, two people, your kids, right, 278 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: it could be anything. But you do not have to 279 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: tolerate people who don't like or who take subtle jabs 280 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: at you, or who pretend to be in your world 281 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: or and or society and pretend as if they like you. 282 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: You do not. I feel like this is more common 283 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: and people do not talk about it. And while I 284 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: am venting, I'm getting this off my chest. But there's 285 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: somebody listening now, like, no, I know I got four 286 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: or five for dems. I'm not talking to Jack no more, 287 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: or I'm just going to remove myself from Jack's presence. 288 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, And it's okay to 289 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: say no, that's not a bad thing. Go find your people. 290 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of finding my people on today's podcast, because the 291 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: podcast is going to begin Now. That was my venting 292 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: message that I approve of. But on today's podcast, we're 293 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: talking about the WNBA, and I don't know if you 294 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: know this. WNBA All Star Weekend begins July seventeenth, eighteenth, 295 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: and nineteenth, three days of festivities. The game will be 296 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: on a Saturday night. The format not necessarily the same 297 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: as the NBA, but for some reason there's a little 298 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: scuttle but little scandal, a little brujha happening right now 299 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: in the WNBA. You know, the format is to pick 300 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: a team captain, one representing the East, one representing the West. 301 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: The team captain representing the East this year, Caitlyn Clark. 302 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: The team captain representing the West this year, a Fisakalier. Well, 303 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: apparently there are some within the WNBA atmosphere that are 304 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: not happy that Caitlyn Clark is a team captain during 305 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: her sophomore year. Right, she's ricky last year. This is 306 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: her second year in the league. She's team captain. Not 307 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: her fault, because you know how they vote based on 308 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: fan votes. She got the most fan votes, record setting 309 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: fan votes. You can't be mad at what the fans 310 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: want because the All Star Weekend is truly for them, 311 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: but some people are mad. And on today's podcast, we'll 312 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: talk about the WNBA why they're mad at Caitlyn Clark 313 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: for being the team captain and who exactly are they. 314 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: And then also, the WNBA is expanding. They're adding three 315 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: more teams, three more teams to bring the grand total 316 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: to eighteen. What it all means after the break, So it. 317 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: Is my honor to officially announce that the WNBA is 318 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: expanding from are currently announced fifteen teams to eighteen teams 319 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 4: over the next few years, so on behalf of the 320 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 4: entire WNBA. I'm thrilled to welcome Cleveland and Detroit back 321 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: and to welcome Philadelphia officially to the WNBA. 322 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: So first and foremost, let me just say thank you 323 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: Kathy Ngelbird for that information. Congratulations. There are three more 324 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: teams coming to the w making it a grand total 325 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: of eighteen. That is amazing. That is beautiful for women's sports. 326 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: I want to I just want to be clear, if 327 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: you hear me, that is amazing. I am happy that 328 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: this is happening. It's going to give women more opportunities 329 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: to play professional sports. And if there are more dollars 330 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: more revenue, more interest. All it can do is get 331 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: bigger and better and expand. However, when announcing those teams, 332 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: you dig a little, do a little research, and you 333 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: notice they're all male owners. That's the first thing, NBA owners, 334 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: if you will. And I think that's great because the 335 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: inception of the league actually began in partnership with the NBA. 336 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: So let me explain this so it doesn't sound weird. 337 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: The league WNBA would not exist. I will be very 338 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: honest with you if the NBA did not lend a 339 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: financial planned and resources. A financial plan not with a 340 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: D and resources. So they thought it was it would 341 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: be smart to take the Lakers, for instance, and say, 342 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: let me give you a women's team, because you already 343 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: have an arena where they can play, you already have colors, 344 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: you're an established franchise is already in place. We're just 345 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: going to take the Lakers and do a model of 346 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: what you all are doing with this franchise, and we're 347 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: going to give birth to the Los Angeles Sparks. That's 348 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: how it all began. And they did that with a 349 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: few teams when the league started in nineteen ninety seven. Perfect, great, 350 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: thank you. Now it wasn't making money. It still isn't 351 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: making money, for being honest, but it is very popular 352 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: and there is money to be made. So now that 353 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: there's money to be made, they let the men buy in. 354 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: All the men are buying in, what about the women. 355 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: I want to be a part owner of a WNBA team. 356 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: I have two dollars to add. Here's my and look, 357 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: I'm not going to complain. I understand. I am going 358 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: to complain. That's a lie. I understand that you need 359 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: to have an owner that is obviously well resourced because 360 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: there's travel facility, marketing, sponsors. How do you keep the 361 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: team afloat? I understand that is necessary because you want 362 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: to give each one of these new teams, these expansion teams, 363 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: an opportunity to flourish. And I can't come in, Carrie 364 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Champion can't come in with her twenty dollars and say 365 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm a build a team. I need to have some 366 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: serious money. And the buy in now is huge. It's 367 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: really huge. I mean, listen to this. 368 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: I mean you have ticket sales up, you know, sixty 369 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 5: six percent, and you have you know, attendance up, same 370 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 5: sponsorships and viewership up. You know the playoffs one hundred 371 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 5: and thirty percent year over year growth. So I think 372 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: there's an ascendency that has a ways to go. As 373 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 5: a value investor, you know, it's it's it's a trophy 374 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 5: franchise and price like a trophy franchise. 375 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 6: Clara Wissi was quoted in Bloomberg Is saying that by 376 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 6: twenty thirty, she expects the Liberty to be the first 377 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 6: one billion dollar women's sports franchise. Do you see that 378 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 6: that's a big number. 379 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 5: It's a big number, but I think that you know, 380 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: it's not it's not out of the question. Where we 381 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 5: are right now, ten years from now. I mean, just 382 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: the pace of growth here is extraordinary, and it's only 383 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 5: getting better. There are more teams, there's more talent, there's 384 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: more interests, there's more interests in college basketball, women's sports 385 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 5: more broadly. 386 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: A lot to love here. So over the next five years, 387 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland will join in twenty twenty eight. So that's the 388 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: WNBA team in Cleveland, followed by one in Detroit in 389 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine, followed by one in Philly in twenty thirty. 390 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: The buy in if you wanted to bring a WNBA 391 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: team to your town two hundred and fifty million dollars 392 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: two five zero. Congratulations to the w Congratulations to the 393 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: value that these women are now starting to actually receive 394 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: in terms of what they are worth. They won't see 395 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: that money, but you understand the value of the team. 396 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: Look and as a reminder, the WNBA added a thirteenth team, 397 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: the Golden State Valkyries this season. You may have seen them, 398 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: and they're playing really, really well. While the Toronto Temple 399 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: will be there next year, and then the Portland team 400 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: will also join, so that'll be a grand total of 401 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: eighteen teams in the league. That is huge. Now we've 402 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: heard complaints from so many people that they're not allowing 403 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: those who have supported the league all of these years 404 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: to be a part of ownership. And I understand both sides. 405 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: You need somebody with deep pockets to own a WNBA 406 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: team to keep up, to make sure that these women 407 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: are flying private and have the best hotels and are 408 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: getting the best and have the best facilities and the 409 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: best trainers. But that money, that money, that two hundred 410 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars, The women are not seeing it. 411 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: The players are not seeing that. I'm old enough to 412 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: remember when the Los Angeles Sparks jumped from owner to 413 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: owner to owner because each owner did not feel that 414 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: there was value in these teams. Now they're fighting fighting 415 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: to own WNBA teams. Here's a short little lesson, and 416 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know if you remember this. Jerry Buss, 417 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: who owned the Los Angeles Lakers. He was the very 418 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: first owner of the Los Angeles Sparks. He owned when 419 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: the league started in nineteen ninety seven. He said, hey, 420 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: I'll put my hat in he may he rest in peace. 421 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Buss. He sold the team in two thousand and six. 422 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: When he sold the team, and this kudos to you, Jerry, 423 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: because you get what we were trying to do. When 424 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: he sold the team, he sold it to an independent 425 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: group of owners led by a woman named Kathy Goodman, 426 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: and one of the women I've admired for many years 427 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: in media that her name was Paula Madison. So it 428 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: was a group of women who actually owned that team 429 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: from two thousand and six until twenty fourteen. So when 430 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: the ladies sold it, they sold it to Mark Walters. 431 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: Do you know who Mark Walters is. That's the guy 432 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: who just bought the Lakers. So he owns the Lakers. 433 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: He owns the Dodgers, and he owns the Sparks. That's 434 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: step pockets. If I was a player on the Sparks, 435 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: I would think, Great, we're gonna have the best facilities, 436 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: We'll have the best accommodations, We'll have all of the things, 437 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: because this man has a lot of money in deep 438 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: pockets and huge, huge partners, Magic Johnson being one of them. 439 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: And I love all that. I love it. I love 440 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: that you're investing in the WNBA. I love that you're 441 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: still committed to making it great. But I also know 442 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: that most of these people who own these teams don't 443 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: even watch the wo They could care less, and that's 444 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: really disappointing. It really truly is disappointing. And I say 445 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: that because there are people who have worked all their 446 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: life to build up women's sports, all of their life 447 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: to build up women's sports. Let me think I can 448 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: think of I think of someone like Lisa Leslie, who 449 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: was one of the original players for the Sparks. I 450 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: she had a small percentage of ownership for a small time, 451 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: like maybe a few years. I think of people who 452 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: are who played in the league, like Don Staley. She'd 453 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: like to own a WNBA team. I know that for 454 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: a fact, and there is no real effort to allow 455 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: the people who help build the brand, build the sport 456 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: keep it afloat in terms of their blood, sweat and 457 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: tears equity playing on the court. There's no real effort 458 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: to reward them. And what I mean by that is 459 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: that you clearly can't pay them. You still haven't been 460 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: able to pay them, But why not allow them to 461 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: feel some type of ownership in the league that they 462 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: build from scratch and cared for. If you play in 463 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: the w you're playing because you love the sport. It's 464 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: for the love, it's not for the money. You're doing 465 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: everything possible. Especially in the beginning years. They were playing 466 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: in gyms, they get kicked out of the arenas. They 467 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: were on buses, they were on public transportation, public flights 468 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: with layovers, sometimes flights delayed, sleeping in airports. I mean, 469 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: these women really love the sport and I am just 470 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: here to say that I wish that they could see 471 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: some value in it in terms of money for themselves. Now, 472 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: when we come back, like a small little break, when 473 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: we come back, I want to talk about Kaitlyn Clark 474 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: speaking of the WNBA speaking of that that superstar, that 475 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: super nova. Caitlin Clark is the captain, one of the 476 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: captains for the w NBA All Star Weekend, representing the East. 477 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: If you said Collier representing the West, what does that 478 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: all mean? And why are some folks not happy about it? 479 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: Back in a. 480 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 7: Moment, it's cool that fans get to be a part 481 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: of it and having a little impact on the game. 482 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 7: And then I think also like it's going to be 483 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 7: really special to be able to do it here in 484 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 7: this city. And I think, you know, there's already been 485 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 7: so much time and effort put in by so many 486 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 7: people that you know aren't going to get credit for 487 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 7: what they did to bring All Star here, so, you know, 488 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 7: trying to make it the best All Star the WNBA 489 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 7: has ever had. I know we'll certainly do that. But 490 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 7: also it is certainly a cool honor for sure. 491 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: WNBA All Star Weekend beginning on July eighteenth, and the 492 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: game is on Saturday the nineteenth. I just mentioned before 493 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: the break and if he's a Collier is the captain 494 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: of the West. Caitlin Clark captain representing the East. Clark 495 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: received a record setting number of fan votes one point 496 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: two nine million votes. Basically one point three million votes, 497 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: one point three million people. I don't even know that 498 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: many people love the w One point three million people 499 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: said We've got to see Kaitlyn Clark play. Second most 500 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: votes went to Noughisa Collier one point one seven. Now, 501 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: the question always comes up, especially when it's Kaitlyn Clark. 502 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: Is she that good? Do people really like her? Are 503 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: they weaponizing her? Is she really representing sports or is 504 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: it an idea that this country wants? Why are people 505 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: just now getting interested in sports or WNBA for that matter, 506 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: just because of Kitlin Clark. I hear these questions. We 507 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: did a long series, go back and listen to it. 508 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: I always tell people to do it. But Kaitlyn Clark, 509 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: she is just a super nova. Someone has to come 510 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: along and be that one. It's happened in every sport, 511 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: it happens in every industry. You have to have that 512 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: one who sets the standard, who who the tide rises 513 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: with them, the person that people are attracted to. In college, 514 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark, as we all know, was this superstar. People 515 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: would try for hours to see her play basketball because 516 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: she would hit the I mean literally hit the logo 517 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: and drop a three. How could you do that so easily, 518 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: so effortlessly, And she did it consistently in day in 519 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: and day out all the time. She became a traveling 520 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: superstar in terms of people would go, oh is Caitlin 521 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Clark Intown? I heard, I want to go see the 522 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: girl who plays for Iowa who drops threes like Steph Curry. 523 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: People had heard about her but didn't really know if 524 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: she would live up to all these expectations, all the 525 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: hooplah if you will. And she did. And not only 526 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: did she take all of her fans from college and 527 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: bring them to the W, she also created a movement. 528 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: And so yes, there's some resentment because the w has 529 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: been around since nineteen ninety seven and it took this long, 530 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: this long twenty some odd years for people to start 531 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: really paying attention. I won't say she is the only 532 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: reason why people are paying attention to the WNBA, but 533 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: I will say she introduced the WNBA to an entirely 534 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: new fan base, and those fans voted for her, and 535 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: those fans wanted to see her in the game more 536 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: than anyone else. And the way the votes were, the 537 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: fan votes in particular, they determine who will be the 538 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: team captains because they are the most popular people. Those 539 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: two players, Caitlin Clark and a Fisa Collier. Now Here 540 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: comes the rum they have a tendency to do this. 541 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: They let you know how many fan votes you got, 542 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: how many media votes you have, and how many player 543 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: votes you receive, and usually the players vote based on 544 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: who they think is the best. They really do, it 545 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: would be no surprise to you that Caitlyn Clark came 546 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: in ninth with the players, meaning there were eight other 547 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: players better than her according to the WNBA players in 548 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: the league. She's not She's not perfect. There's a lot 549 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: about our game that needs to be that needs to 550 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: be fixed. She rushes the ball, she moves too quickly, 551 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: she needs to settle before she takes certain shots. I 552 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: think she complains too much on the court. Right, we 553 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: can say that, and she arguably is not the best 554 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: point guard. She's just not That makes sense to me, right, 555 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: But what doesn't make sense is this hint of I'm 556 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: upset that she's the captain because she's only been in 557 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 1: the league for two years. 558 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark began this year incredibly strong, but unfortunately injuries 559 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: got in the way and if it were not for 560 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: it being in Indianapolis, I would probably be a person's 561 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: challenge and say maybe a reserve. But it's difficult to 562 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: say that somebody should probably be a captain when they've 563 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: missed a certain amount of games this year. And I 564 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: just want it to be known that it's to me 565 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: based off that that I would say for any other 566 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: player in any other team or on any other city 567 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: in which the All Stars being held, I think that 568 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: would be a factor. But the fact that it's being 569 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: in Indy, she's the most popular player in Indy, she 570 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: is the most popular fan base. It makes total sense 571 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: that she's a captain. And I really didn't foresee it 572 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: going any other way. 573 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: And while they're being politically correct, you know, there's a 574 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: bit of resentment. I think that's okay. I think it's okay. 575 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: I think it's okay not to like Katelyn Clark, or 576 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: to be or to feel some sort of resentment towards 577 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: Katelyn Clark. I think all of that is okay. You 578 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: know why, because we do not require it of the men. 579 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: We do not require that the men be best friends, 580 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: we do not require that they like each other. In fact, 581 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: we complain that the NBA is too friendly now and 582 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: they all are hanging out in their buddies. So why 583 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: does this make so many of these new fans upset 584 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: as if there is a conspiracy theory to gang up 585 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: on Caitlin Clark and not like her and take her 586 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: down and remove her from the league. It's just not 587 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: the case. It's sports, it's competitive. If they don't like 588 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: each other, that's fine. In fact, I think it's great. 589 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: In fact, I think it's better for the league. I 590 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: just do. I'm tired a few people complaining about women 591 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: not being nice on the court. You guys, see that 592 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: TikTok video the other day Cocoa Golf and Sebolenka and 593 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: Sebalinka said something to the effect of, we're good now, guys, 594 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: so you should be too. While they're dancing and doing 595 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: their TikTok dance, Why have you would Roger Federer and 596 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: raf An a doll I'll ever do a TikTok video 597 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: together when they were at the height of their competition, 598 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: when they couldn't stand each other, would they ever? No, 599 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: let me be more clear, Roger Federer and Novak Djokovic 600 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: definitely didn't like each other, and it was known, and 601 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: no one said, hey, guys, come together and shake hands 602 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: till people aren't upset. Matgic Johnson couldn't stand Larry Bird. 603 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: They were competitors off the court. Maybe I'll say to 604 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: you there was no uproar like y'all should get along. 605 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: What Magic said about Larry was mean. This is crazy. 606 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: Just said it out loud. This is crazy. We do 607 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: not care if the men don't like each other. Why 608 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: do we care so much that people don't like Caitlin 609 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: Clark and are upset? 610 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 8: Part of the WNBA All Star selection, the players get 611 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 8: to vote, and Caitlin Clark was voted as the ninth 612 00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 8: best guard in the WNBA by WNBA plays right, yes, 613 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 8: So then you're sitting there going like, oh boy, here 614 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 8: we go. And then you're like, well, you know, I mean, 615 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 8: I just kind of be honest when I saw the pole. 616 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 8: I don't watch the WNBA except the case when Kid 617 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 8: and Clark is playing, right, I mean, can we just 618 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 8: be honest, Sam, I accept the fact that you do, 619 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 8: but the rest of us and most of the rest 620 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 8: of the world do not. 621 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: I don't watch I don't watch games outside of fever games, honestly, Okay, yeah, fair. 622 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 8: Enough, right, So, like Skyler Diggins, like I remember her 623 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 8: from Notre Dame, I can't tell you I've ever seen 624 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 8: her play professional basketball. I have no idea if she's 625 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 8: awesome or if she's just okay or whatever. But again, 626 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 8: like she's the player's rank curve way ahead, and everybody 627 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 8: else fans and media does not like. I don't know, 628 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 8: so I don't. So you're like, wow, that that's weird. Ninth. 629 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 8: That feels like they don't like her, right. It feels 630 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 8: like they're trying to even out the hype train. 631 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: Why do we care? I mean, I don't care. I'm 632 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: asking you. I am so sick and tired of trying 633 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: to make peace in a game that doesn't deserve peace. 634 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: It's competition. I don't like you, you don't like me. 635 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: You have something I want, I'm going to take it. 636 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: I think I'm better than you. You're not as good 637 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: as me. I know ten more players better than you, 638 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you why. That's to me, 639 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: sounds like sports, sounds like competition. So here we are 640 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: having the age old debate of whether or not Caitlin 641 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: Clark is liked because she is white. The age old 642 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: debate of why other players who are better than her 643 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: are not getting the same attention, the same debate over 644 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: whether or not she's friendly. Is Angel Rees friendly? No, 645 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: she's the villa. We know that, right, that will already 646 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: be the case, right, that's Angel Reese is the villain. 647 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: That story has been written. But is she She's just honest. 648 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: She just says what she feels. If you want to 649 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: do comps. She reminds me of Draymond Green. You all 650 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: may not like Draymond, but the victriol that Angel gets 651 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: could could be the equivalent, if not more. It's more 652 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: than what Draymond gets at his height. Remember he socked 653 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: his teammate. People were trying to take him out. Then 654 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: I would think you would think Angel Reese came on 655 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 1: the court and sock Caitlin Clark the way you guys 656 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: hate on her. You would think she punched her in 657 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: the face like Draymond Green did. Like Draymond Green did. 658 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: She did not, And I think it's ridiculous. I think 659 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: it's so ridiculous that we are not allowing these women 660 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: in this new fragile state that they are in, to 661 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: just enjoy the sport. We're not allowing them to have 662 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: their own personalities. We're not allowing them to fight and 663 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: talk trash. I love it watching when they talk trash. 664 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: I like to see them lose their mind. I like 665 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: to see them throw the ball. I want to see 666 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: all of that because it means you care. We have 667 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: got to let these ladies play. I started the podcast 668 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: complaining about the gatekeeping because the men are now the 669 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: owners of the WNBA and only interested because there is 670 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: money there. Unfair women are being left out. Who started 671 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: the sport to be unfair? And then I slide into 672 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: what's going on with these new expansion teams, and then 673 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: I slide into what's going on with Caitlin Clark and 674 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: white people are upset about the All Star Game because 675 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: she is a captain. I think too soon, too soon, 676 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: too soon. She's a super nova accepted and I'm not 677 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: saying that she plays this way. So let me be 678 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: very clear. But every now and again, there has to 679 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: be a face of a league, Baseball, basketball, it has 680 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: to be a face of a sport, Tennis, soccer. I 681 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: named all those sports right away. You thought about somebody 682 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: who was the face, the first, the most popular person, 683 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 1: the name that you knew that was synonymous, Wit said 684 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: sport Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson, Larry Byrn Messy, 685 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal, Novak, Djokovic, Serena Williams. They're just 686 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: people who are and the chosen one just so happens 687 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: to be a white woman, And people are up in 688 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: arms because of that, in both ways. Up in arms 689 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: because she's getting all the attention on a league that 690 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: is seventy percent black, up in arms because they think 691 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: she's being picked on, and they're defending her. Up in 692 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: arms because she's getting more money than players have ever 693 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: seen their entire life. Who built the league? Not her fault, anything, 694 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: None of this. None of this is her fault, none 695 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: of it. So if we could settle and allow the 696 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: sport to be a sport where we just watch it 697 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: and enjoy it, it'll be a good life for us. 698 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: I understand the argument of why some people are upset 699 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: that she's a team captain. It's not really valid, though, 700 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with you, the fans chosen. I 701 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: would feel away, especially if I feel like I'm better 702 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: than her, But that is not her fault. Just so 703 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: happens she was the chosen one and we have to 704 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: accept it. We just gotta All Star Weekend July eighteenth, 705 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: nineteenth and twentieth. Ohways, get my dates wrong. I'm glad 706 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: that you guys are here with me, so as you 707 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: are watching, I'm looking to make sure that I got 708 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: it right in my calendar. Here I'm going. I think 709 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: I'm not for sure you all should go though. It's 710 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: in Indiana. Oh gosh, of course it's in in Indiana eighteenth, nineteenth, 711 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: and twentieth. Yes, correct, that is All Star Weekend. It's 712 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: in Indiana. You should definitely show up. It's going to 713 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: be a good time. I do not I do not, 714 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: and I repeat, I do not want anybody in my 715 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: message just talking about why I got to be in Indiana, 716 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: where where Kaitlyn Clark is from, where she plays. Why 717 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: I gotta be there because she's the star. That's where 718 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: the fans are one point three million voted. They're all 719 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: traveling to Indiana, Indiana to see her. That's why. That's 720 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: why it's in Indiana. Okay, okay, okay, I'm being silly, 721 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: but I'm also saying relax, just relax, it is what 722 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: it is, and then another superstar will come along. We 723 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: got Juju coming. I'm so excited about Juju Watkins coming. 724 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: She'll be the star. We have Paige Beckers in the league. 725 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: She's not getting as much attention as Caitlyn Is, but 726 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: she's also a starter in the All Star weekend. Paige 727 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: Beckers is lights out. She's figuring it out as a rookie. 728 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: But right now, all eyes are on Caitlin and that's 729 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: just what it is. He's the hot girl in the 730 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: room with the little black dress on and all the 731 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: fellows want to talk to her. She's the popular kid 732 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: at school that had all the new electronics and had 733 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: all the game boys and toys, or who has the 734 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: best lunch, and she's trading her stuff out with other 735 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: people because people just want to be around there. It's her, 736 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: She's it for now. That doesn't mean she's the best player, 737 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean she is wrong for existing. It just 738 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: is what it is. These are the circumstances, and you 739 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: can't take that out on her. Even though people will 740 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: and people are upset, it has nothing to do with her. 741 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: The people have spoken one point three million impact. All right, 742 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: let me get off my high horse. I want you 743 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: guys to check out All Star Weekend. If you don't 744 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 1: definitely watch the game on TV that's Saturday, July nineteenth. 745 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: It's going to be a really good game. I think 746 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: what I learned last year watching the All Star Game 747 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: was that the new fans that have now started to 748 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: watch the w have made me more interested because these 749 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: wild takes of who they think is great and who 750 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: are these plays. So it's great. I love it. They 751 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: give me all the storylines. But you should watch the 752 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: weekend of July eighteenth, nineteen twentieth. There's a lot happening. 753 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: We have a three point contest, which is going to 754 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: be great as well. We have the game, and then 755 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: we have the festivities. The ladies get dressed. They try 756 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: to be sassy. These WNBA players. Let me just take 757 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: a note. They look good. They are dressing. I mean, 758 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: I love to see it. I love to see it. 759 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: That how much it's evolved. These ladies are out here, 760 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: they're famous, they know who they are. They people are 761 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: standing in line to say hi. People are like you, 762 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 1: or can I get your autograph? I want to grow 763 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: up and be just like you. It's a beautiful thing 764 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: because it'll trickle down in other areas. It's a beautiful thing. 765 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 1: Tune in watch support. Try to keep it not so negative. Okay, 766 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: let's try to just try to enjoy the sport, and 767 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: let's not wish that these ladies were best friends. Right, 768 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: Let's just enjoy the sport and let them be the 769 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: how about that fancy here's a fancy thing, them be 770 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: them crazy. I remember when I'm old enough to remember 771 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: when we didn't like Lebron. Y'all remember that, right, But 772 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: Lebron did some things. There was there were reasons to 773 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: not like Lebron. Well, I didn't like him because I 774 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: was a hater, but there were other reasons not to 775 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: like Lebron. I was just a pure hater, right, Just 776 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 1: just I don't want you to take over Kobe's spot. 777 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: I hate you if we laugh about that. But let 778 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 1: these ladies play. And at the end of the day, 779 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: we're going to be able to read so many benefits 780 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: for this. This will from this moment on. Honestly, women 781 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: are going to see a lot of strides. If you 782 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: can see them in sports in real ways, in terms 783 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: of equity and movement and respect, it will it will 784 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: somehow find its way into society somehow, some way, So support, 785 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark support, Fisa Collier support, Angel Reese, Let these 786 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: Ladies play. Thank you all for listening to the podcast. 787 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: I'll be back next week. Naked Sports written and executive 788 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: produced by me Kerrie Champion, Produced by Jacquies Thomas, Sound 789 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: designed and mastered by Dwayne Crawford. Naked Sports is a 790 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: part of the Black Effect podcast Network in iHeartMedia