1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today, we 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: have a man that you will remember from last season 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: a Bachelor in Paradise on the show. His name is 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: John Henry, John Henry. I have a question for you. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Is Henry the last name or is it like a 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: combined first name. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 3: It's actually my middle name. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 4: Okay, So my family, they're kind of old school growing up. 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 4: John Henry is like what everybody called me my family, 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 4: A lot of my like my hometown friends growing up, 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: you know, it was always John Henry. 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 3: And then like my sister, she's Kate Marie. My other 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: sister is Lauren Ann. So I've kind of gone by 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: John Henry pretty much like my whole life. But then, 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I go by John two. Like, I don't 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: introduce myself as John Henry. I'll just say John. But 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: then once they get to know me, it's John Henry. 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 5: And this is one of the worst phenomenons in the 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 5: United States. And I'll tell you why. I'm married a 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 5: girl from the South and all of her friends have 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 5: two first names, and so when I first met her, 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 5: it was hard enough to know the one name, then 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 5: I have to know the two names, and all of 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 5: them are like Anna, Lie, Anna, Kate, Anna, Meredith, like 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: they all have two names. 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: It's hard, yeah, but with a name like John, everybody's John, 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: so it makes it easy. You know, if someone just 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: sells John, everybody looks. But then you know, if they 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 4: say John Henry, it's like, okay, that's me. So it 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: just makes it easier. What's your last name, Spurlock? 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, John Henry Spurlock. Well, we wanted to 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: have you here today, of course to talk about your 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: experience in Bachelor in Paradise. You are one of the 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: engaged couples this season, season nine, and it's how do 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: you feel about the reputation that like season nine ruined 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: the whole thing because because so many failed relationships that 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: came from it and that's why we're not getting another paradise. 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me. I mean, I I don't know. 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: I just I did it. 42 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: I had fun, found somebody, you know, gave it a shot, 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 4: and I'm happy about like my experience. 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't change it for anything. 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: But as far as the rest of the season goes 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: and how people view it, I mean, I don't really care. 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me. 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: The interesting thing, I think from your perspective would be 49 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 5: why did so many relationships look like they could work 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 5: coming off the show and ended up not working, you know, 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 5: a very in a very short time from the show. 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: I don't really know. 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: It's kind of hard for me to talk about that 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: because I'm not really too focused on the other relationships. 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: You know, Obviously, me and Kat we ended up getting engaged, 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: and I know our story, and I don't really want 57 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: to talk about the other couple's stories because you know, 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: that's I feel like that's kind of for them to 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: touch on. But you know, as far as me and 60 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: Kat go, like, you know, I gave it my all 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 4: and we tried it and it didn't work out, but 62 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: that's okay. 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: And uh, I mean, yeah, you and Kat seems like 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: an odd couple right off the bat. You seem like 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: a very salt of the earth, grounded type of guy, 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: sweet southern and she and I think Kat is hilarious 67 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: and I like loved her personality for TV and I 68 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 2: think she has a good heart, stunning, but like, yeah, 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: you guys are definitely an odd couple. And how did 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: that work out in your favor, and how did it 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: ultimately not? 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, like we couldn't be any more different. 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: You know, I knew that, she knew that. Everybody else 74 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: at the beach, you know, everybody said like we were 75 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: probably like the last couple. 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: They ever would have imagined getting together. 77 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like you said, like, I don't know, it 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: just worked, like because she's you know, she's really vocal. 79 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: She's like loud, and she's always all over the place. 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: And then like I'm a little more grounded, So like, 81 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, it just it worked like we couldn't 82 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: be any more different, but at the same time it fit, 83 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 4: you know. 84 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like one of those situations where it's 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: opposite a tract and that's a good thing for the 86 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: shirt short term, but for the long term it often 87 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: doesn't work out. 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like you know that in meme. 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like a meme, but like 90 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 4: it's like if I order French fries at a restaurant 91 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: and they give me tater tots, like you need to 92 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: find a girl that's gonna tell the server like he 93 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: didn't order, you know, tater tots. So it's like, I'm 94 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: not gonna complain. You know, I'll eat the tater tots. 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: I don't care. But like, you know, Kat's a kind 96 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 4: of girl like she's gonna speak up. She's gonna be like, no, 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: he didn't order that, he ordered for us. 98 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Both Jared and I are not going to 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: complain about the tator tosts though we're right there. 100 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 3: I'll eat them. It's not the end of the world. 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 5: But you know, stand up for your man, Ashley. 102 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: Wait then then what what you and Jess? Who's going 103 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 2: to tell the waiter that you guys. 104 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 5: Didn't know about? Not a single soul. But it's an 105 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 5: interesting concept, John Henry, because you know, I'm from Indiana 106 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 5: originally and from an incredible agriculture town, and we have 107 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 5: some very like prominent, really successful farmers. And these farmers 108 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: are oftentimes from farming families, you know, third four generation farmers, 109 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: and their life is hard, right, wake up at five am, 110 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 5: you close the barn door at eight pm. But you're 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: you're very wealthy. Typically these farmers are very wealthy. And 112 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 5: we had this thing in town wet It kind of 113 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 5: called it farming princesses, where you'd have the farmers who 114 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 5: are as simple as simple can be. They could ask 115 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 5: for nothing ever, and they're just good doing what they're doing. 116 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 5: But they'd have their wives who would kind of push 117 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 5: them and stretch them to experience the world in a 118 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 5: different way. Right, maybe, Hey, I want to go to 119 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 5: a fancier dinner tonight. So can you throw on your 120 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 5: nice jeans and your nice shirt and your boots and 121 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 5: take me to a fancy dinner. Is that kind of 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 5: what you're talking about where it felt like kat might 123 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: just be that enough of a difference for you to 124 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 5: push you into a realm that you would never go 125 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 5: into on your own. 126 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: Uh. 127 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, that's one of the big things 128 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: that really call my attention from the beginning with her, 129 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: is like, you know, I want somebody different than me. 130 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: I don't want someone exactly like me with the same hobbies. 131 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: You know. 132 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: I like having my hobbies and doing my own thing, 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 4: and she has her hobbies and does her own thing, 134 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: and I don't know like that. That's that's always kind 135 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: of what I liked and like knowing Kad is totally 136 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: different than me, Like she can show me a lot 137 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: and at the same time, you know, I can show 138 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: her a lot. So I like change, I like doing 139 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: different things, So like, yeah, I mean that I really 140 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: liked the idea of that with her. You know, that 141 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: was one of the things that I first noticed and 142 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: was like, okay, like, you know, it's kind of what 143 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: I'm looking for. 144 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 5: I think my follow up to that would be what 145 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 5: do you look? I mean, I don't want to skip 146 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 5: too far ahead here, but what are you looking for now? 147 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: Now that you've experienced a cat in your life and 148 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 5: seeing kind of that difference, are you now as you 149 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 5: focus on what you're into now in the future, is 150 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 5: it back to kind of comfort and somebody that will 151 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 5: just like ride along with you and you guys can 152 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 5: do what you do or is it still that kind 153 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: of more cat style that will push you outside of it? 154 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: Uh? Both. 155 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: I still I still like the idea of having, you know, 156 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: somebody that's totally different than me. But it kind of 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: made me realize too. It's like like the like down 158 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: to the core, like you have to be similar, you 159 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: have to you know, there's a lot of things that 160 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: you have to be similar on. But then like all 161 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: the things that don't matter, like that's what I want 162 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: to be different, But like when it comes to all 163 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: the deep stuff, you know that has to be on track. 164 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that makes sense. 165 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So when you propose, it was kind of hilarious 166 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: because you said, my head is telling me not to 167 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: do this, but my heart is telling me to go 168 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: for it. To your future self proposing one other day, 169 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: do you want both your heart and your head to 170 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: be at the same place. 171 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously. 172 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: But Paradise is such a a not like a normal 173 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: way of getting engaged, Like you know, it's such a 174 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: short period of time, and going on the show, like 175 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: I knew that, Like I knew it was going to 176 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: be a lot different than like every day dating. And 177 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 4: like in everyday dating, you know, I think two three 178 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: years then I'll be, you know ready. 179 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 3: But going to. 180 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: Paradise, it's like I know how it works, you know, 181 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: I know the end goal, and like in order to 182 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: go on the show, I guess you have to be 183 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: open to it. 184 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: So I was, you know, in my head. 185 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: Like we got along really well, and you know, things 186 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: couldn't have been any better at Paradise, So you know, 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: it's getting down to the end and I have to 188 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: make up a decision, and I was all in but 189 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 4: like it was such a short period of time, So 190 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: it's like I was thinking back on like just normal 191 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: everyday dating, Like, yeah, it's absolutely insane to get engaged 192 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: after just a couple of weeks. But knowing that that, 193 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: you know, that's what I signed up for, I had 194 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: to be open to it. And uh, you know, I 195 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: was leaving the beach and I was thinking myself, well, 196 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: I mean, it couldn't go any better with Kat, so 197 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: it was like, let's let's just do it, you know, 198 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: let's give it a shot. 199 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 5: You just don't seem like the type of guy to me. 200 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 5: Out of anybody maybe I've ever seen from the show 201 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 5: Chris Souls would be a close second, but you don't 202 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: seem like a guy that would ever have any interest 203 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 5: in doing this thing. 204 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. You're absolutely right. 205 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: So two questions here that you have to answer, probably 206 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 5: in one response, okay, would be why did you do it? 207 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 5: And then how did you get yourself? Because you just 208 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 5: said that you were going onto the beach with the 209 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: right intention, like what everybody else there says they're doing. 210 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 5: I believe that you went with the right intention because 211 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 5: I don't believe you to be a man trying to 212 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 5: make up something that's not true, So why did you go? 213 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 5: And then how in the world did you get your 214 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 5: mind in the right place to even do it without 215 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 5: wanting to do it at all? 216 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 4: So I guess I have to kind of go back 217 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: to the Bachelorette because that's where the whole decision came 218 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: to do it all. 219 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: And I didn't apply. 220 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 4: You know, I was floating out on a barge out 221 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: in the middle of the ocean and I got a 222 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: phone call, and you know, it was one of the 223 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: casting producers and she basically told me, like I got 224 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: nominated online and they were just like curious if I was, 225 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: you know, still single, and if i'd be interested. And 226 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: at first I told him no, I was like, absolutely not, 227 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: Like do you know, I don't really know for sure. 228 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: I think it was my buddy's ext girlfriend at the time. Wow, 229 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: So it was a long it was a long time ago. Yeah, 230 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: it was a long time ago. And like I told 231 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 4: him no, I was like, because I know, like about 232 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: the show. I know, you got doctors and lawyers and 233 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 4: personal trainers and then I work construction, so like, I 234 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: have no business being on that show. So at first, 235 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: when she first started talking to me. I told him no. 236 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not going to do this. But 237 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: she was like, you know, this isn't a guaranteed that 238 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: you're going to be on. She was like, just think 239 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 4: about it. She was like, go through the process, and 240 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: you know, if they end up picking you, then you 241 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: can make up your mind. And I was like, okay, whatever, 242 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 4: you know, I'll go through it and. 243 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: See what happens. And then I made it to the end. 244 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 4: You know, they told me that they wanted me to 245 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: be on it, and I was like, well, I was like, 246 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: now I got to do it, you know. 247 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't know, I decided. 248 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: To do it, and then I kind of I knew 249 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 4: about how it works and everything, so then I had 250 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: to change my mindset to be like, okay, so like 251 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: this isn't like typical dating. 252 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: I have to be open to how this is all going. 253 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: To work and you know the situation, and so I 254 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 4: just decided to do it. But you know, I'm the 255 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: kind of guy like, if I'm going to do something, 256 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to give it my all. I'm not just 257 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: going to half ask it. I'm just you know, I'm 258 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 4: going to give it everything I got and see what happens. 259 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to go to the moment where 260 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: you and Kat cameras stop rolling. You're at the hotel 261 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: in Mexico. You probably get a few days just to 262 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: rocks the two of you. What was your vibe, because 263 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: it just like everything can change in those days, you 264 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: like really know, you're like, oh, is this gonna last 265 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: or not. I think in those. 266 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: Days, I don't think it was anything like too crazy, 267 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: because like me and Kat, we did have a lot 268 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: of conversations, like without cameras, and you know, I think 269 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: you get you get a really good idea on what 270 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: someone's all about when the cameras are not around. So 271 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: I've already had, you know, several moments with Kat where 272 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: I got to see, you know, who she really is, 273 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: like without all the cameras. So when we're in Mexico 274 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 4: in the hotel afterwards, you know, I already already already knew, 275 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: and I was just excited. I was so excited that 276 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: the whole thing was over, and like I was just 277 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: looking forward, like you know, we're all we're super excited 278 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: about the relationship. We were still one hundred percent in 279 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: and you know, we started making plans and when we're 280 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: going to start seeing each other. So I was really excited, 281 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: like it was. It didn't really catch me by just 282 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: like surprise. I didn't like see a side of Cat 283 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: then that you know, I didn't see before. So I 284 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 4: was I was just very comfortable, and I was I 285 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: was ready to, uh, you know, see where things were 286 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: gonna go. 287 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: And then things went sideways, right. 288 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't, I don't. 289 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: I mean they they went a little sideways, but nothing 290 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: too drastic, Like we didn't have a crazy. 291 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: Breakup story like you know we have. We had a 292 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: very healthy relationship for months after filming, and then I 293 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: don't know, things didn't go sideways. It's just I started to. 294 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: See our differences and you know, we decided to end up, 295 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 4: you know, ultimately just going our different different ways. But 296 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: looking back on the relationship, like we had a beautiful 297 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: relationship for months. We did a lot of cool things together, 298 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: and like I have a lot of good memory, he said, 299 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: I'm truly thankful for so like me and Kat, we're 300 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: still cool. We can still talk and you know, there's 301 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: no hard feelings. So you know, I don't look at 302 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: it as like a fail because I had some great 303 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: times with her. 304 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: So you'd say it was mutual. 305 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: It's mutual. It's mutual. 306 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: Now I'd say, oh, it's mutual. Now elaborate please. 307 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: All right. Okay, so if you guys want to go 308 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: into detail, I guess I can go and do. This 309 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: is a long story. You guys got time. 310 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 5: Yes, I have nothing else going on. 311 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: All right, Where do I start? I guess I have 312 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: to start this story ten years ago? 313 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: Oh wow? 314 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: Okay. 315 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: So I got into commercial diving, well about eight years 316 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: ago now, and I knew what I was signing up for. 317 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: I knew it was going to be a lot of traveling. 318 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: It was going to be a lot of long days, 319 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: long nights every day, you know, seven days a week. 320 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: And I knew it wasn't going to be a very 321 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: relationship friendly career. So when I first got into it, 322 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: I told myself, I'll do it for ten years, and 323 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: then after ten years, I'm going to get out and 324 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: I'll find, you know, a little more stable career where 325 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: I can stay local and actually like start a relationship. 326 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 4: So anyways, you know, I've been doing my thing, and 327 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: then I get the call for the show and I 328 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: was like eight years in, and I knew I only 329 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: had a couple more years and then I was going 330 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: to fully get out of diving and you know, try 331 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 4: to start a relationship and everything. 332 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: But the show like didn't. I didn't plan on the show. 333 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: It just kind of fell in my lap, right, So 334 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you know, if it, if I 335 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: end up meeting somebody, you know, I did eight years. 336 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: I didn't do the full ten like I said I 337 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: was going to do, which is you know, I'm good 338 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: with that. So me and Kat, you know, we meet 339 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 4: at Paradise and we talked about it, and like I 340 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: told her, you know, like as of right now, like 341 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: my career. 342 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: Is not relationship friendly. 343 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: She knew that, but I was like, it's you know, 344 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: my plan is to get out of it anyways, and 345 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 4: you know, do something where it's it's easier, you know 346 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 4: for that. 347 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: Can I stop you right there? Can you tell us 348 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: about your day to day? Like I know, so you're 349 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: a commercial diving welders, so basically you're like down there 350 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: making bridges and stuff, welding underwater, which is like the 351 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: most mind boggling thing. I Bridge creation and all that 352 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 2: is like so cool, and I don't know how you 353 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: guys do it. But is that what you do. 354 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my job title technically is just a 355 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: commercial diver, so like underwater welding, that's just part of 356 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 4: the job, you know, I'm not specifically just like welding 357 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: underwater all day every day. So it just depends on 358 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: the job. I could be on a bunch of different things. 359 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: It could be a ship that sank that we're bringing 360 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 4: back up, or like you said, building bridges. 361 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: Or I don't know. We've done all kinds of crazy things. 362 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: But okay, that's that's what I love about it. 363 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: You like living on boats and in hotels and stuff 364 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: wherever the job like, wherever they need you pretty much. 365 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: I haven't bounced around a ton, but you know, I've 366 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: worked in Virginia Beach and then I went and you know, 367 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: I was in Charleston. I've done some stuff up in 368 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: New York, and then I went and worked in Germany 369 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: for a year, and then I worked in Austria for 370 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: a little bit, and then now I'm back in Virginia Beach. 371 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: But this is coming to an end. I have, you know, 372 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: something lined up. But uh so, yeah, So, I mean 373 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 4: I've kind of bounced around whatever jobs, you know, if 374 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 4: they have something really cool going on, and I don't know, 375 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 4: let's say Sweden, you know, I'll up and go to 376 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: Sweden for a while and do that job and then 377 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: go to the next one. So it's kind of all 378 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 4: over the place. But like I knew that's what I 379 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 4: signed up for when I got into this career. Okay, 380 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 4: So anyways, like with Kat, you know, we start to 381 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: have a relationship and she knows my schedule, she knows, like, 382 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: you know, what I was, what I was doing, what 383 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: she kind of got involved with. And then I started 384 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: it's hard for me to take time off. It really 385 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 4: is hard for me to take time off. And we 386 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: started making all these plans, like she first came up 387 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 4: to Virginia and we had a nice little weekend here, 388 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: and then I went to Tampa and seeing her, and 389 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: then she ended up moving to Asheville, North Carolina. 390 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: Why she took a travel nurse gig. 391 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 4: So her plans were to go to San Diego, but 392 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: she wasn't able to go as soon as she was 393 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: hoping to, so she had a several weeks like kind 394 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: of just to wait around to figure out what's going 395 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: on with San Diego. So she decided to take a 396 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: travel nurse gig in Ashville, which was closer to me, 397 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 4: so that we could, you know, be closer to each other. 398 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 4: And so she moved to Ashville, and then I went 399 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 4: to Asheville a couple couple times in seeing her, and 400 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: then you know, things were going really well. 401 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: But then you know. 402 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: I'm I'm now so I'm I have this job and 403 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 4: then I get in there this relationship, and then now 404 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: it's like, okay, well now I have to start figuring 405 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: out what I'm going to do, how I'm going to 406 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: make this transition to a career that is going to 407 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: be a lot easier for me, like in her to 408 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: work with. And he kind of called me by surprise because, 409 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: like I said, I originally, you know, I had two 410 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: more years and then I was going to make that happen. 411 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: But now you know, started this with her and got engaged. 412 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 4: It was like, okay, so now I need to start 413 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 4: doing this now, and uh it just called me by surprise. 414 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: So now I'm starting to stress out about how I'm 415 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: going to. 416 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: Make this move. I know she wants to go to 417 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: San Diego, so. 418 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 4: Now I'm I'm kind of looking at jobs out in 419 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: San Diego, Like do I want to keep diving just 420 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 4: because it's what I do, and I could move there 421 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: and die for a little bit at least get me 422 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: over there, and then once I'm there, I can figure 423 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 4: something out. And uh so, I don't know, I really 424 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: started to get stressed out on how I'm going to 425 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 4: make this work on my end. 426 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: And I think once. 427 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: I really started to get stressed out, I don't know 428 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: how do I say this? So I started to have 429 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 4: my doubts right, and I started to think about like 430 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: am I fully ready to drop diving? And it started 431 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: to worry me because you know, my end goal was 432 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 4: to like, you know, fall in love, find a wife, 433 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: and I thought this whole process would be a lot easier, 434 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: but it wasn't, and it was really stressful. 435 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: And then it just started to make me think, like 436 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: why am I so stressed? Why is this move and 437 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: transition so hard for me? Like this should be easy, you. 438 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: Know, like I'm in love, I'm with someone that I 439 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 4: really like. This should be no problem for me to 440 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: switch career years and find something else. But that wasn't 441 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: the case. So then I started thinking to myself, like, 442 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: is this is this really it? 443 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: Like? Is this is this really what? 444 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 4: I want, and I guess once I started kind of 445 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 4: thinking that, it just kind of started spiraling for me 446 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 4: and everything else. Everything just started to get more stressful. 447 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 4: And then I started to see our differences a lot 448 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: more so things just really got hard for me. And 449 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 4: then at the same time, like you know, at this point, 450 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 4: the show's airing, and you know, Kat is just getting 451 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 4: so much hate and it was really hard for her too, 452 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 4: just dealing dealing with that. So now you have this 453 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: like she's all she's really stressed out, and she's just 454 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: everyone's coming at her on a day to day basis. 455 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: And then I'm stressed out trying to make my move, 456 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: you know, trying to make this work, figuring out careers, 457 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 4: and then I'm getting stressed and now I'm having doubts, 458 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: so I'm trying to It's just it got to a 459 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: point where it was just extremely hard for the. 460 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: Both of us. 461 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 4: And then basically I just I, you know, I called 462 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 4: it quits. I said, I just this doesn't feel right. 463 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: I think this should be a lot easier than what 464 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 4: it is, and it just it wasn't the case. So 465 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: then I was like, well, why isn't the case, Like, 466 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: what's what's wrong, and then I just started thinking to myself, 467 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: like maybe this just isn't for me. And then once 468 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: I got that in my head, you know, it just 469 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: kind of spiraled from there. 470 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: Was she shocked. 471 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: She was shocked. 472 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 4: I think that uh, you know, it wasn't wasn't really 473 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: fair to her because at the time, you know, I 474 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 4: was her you know, I was her fiance. You know, 475 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be her rock. I'm supposed to be 476 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: there for her. And I think the hardest thing for 477 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: her was like, you know, so I don't I don't know, 478 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: but like I had, you know, a thing about like depression, 479 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: and I made a post about it and I had 480 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 4: a walk for depression, and you know, this is kind 481 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: of new to me. Well at first started you know, 482 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: I started dealing with it like seven eight years ago, 483 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 4: but this was my first relationship that I was in 484 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: where I dealt with depression. So I'm getting stressed out 485 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: about everything. And then you know, I definitely got in 486 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 4: like a loaf from it. And then now Kat, you know, 487 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: she's just she she really needed that support for me. 488 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 4: But now I got all this all this anxiety and 489 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: I'm dealing with depression and then I shut down, So 490 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: I definitely wasn't there for her like I should have been. 491 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: So I think that was the hardest thing for her, 492 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 4: was like you know the fact that like I'm supposed 493 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: to be her guy, I'm supposed to be there for her, 494 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 4: and I was struggling with that because of all the 495 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 4: issues that I was dealing with myself. So that was 496 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: that was the hardest thing for her, I think for sure. 497 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: And it was all happening while the show was airing, 498 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: and then you guys basically broke up like the last 499 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: week that it was airing. 500 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually broke up right before the finale. 501 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 5: Actually, I'm curious, though, would you say, I mean you 502 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 5: were engaged from the show? Is Kat to date the 503 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 5: greatest love that you've had? 504 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 4: Kat is amazing? You know, she really is something special, 505 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: Like she's not my longest relationship, but but cat Cat's 506 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: Cat's a catch. Like you know, I'll tell you, Like, 507 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: she she definitely did her part, you know, because like. 508 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 3: Distance is hard, distance is hard for everybody. But she did. 509 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: You know, she when she loves you know, she gives 510 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: it her all. And uh, she did everything that she 511 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: needed to do and then some in order to try 512 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: to make our relationship work. And uh, you know even 513 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 4: after even after we ended up breaking up, you know 514 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: it was it was hard at first for sure, but 515 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 4: we definitely kept in touch and like, you know, dealing 516 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: with all my depression stuff. Like she's reached out several times, 517 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: like she's always checking in. Uh, she's sent me a 518 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 4: lot of podcasts and stuff to listen to and like 519 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: some books and stuff to read just to help, and 520 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 4: like she's been nothing but supportive, you know, after. 521 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: The breakup, and so like she's Cat's Cat's a good one. 522 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 4: You know, it didn't work out with us, but someone's 523 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: definitely going to be very lucky. 524 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: To have her. 525 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: Would you say that you were in love with her? 526 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: Or maybe absolutely? Yeah, yeah I would, I would. 527 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 5: Thanks for sharing all that, I mean, it makes things 528 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 5: make more sense too. And you are taking a lot 529 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: of the ownership and in this relationship and why it 530 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 5: ended the way it did and I and all and 531 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: it all makes sense. Like none of this is nobody's 532 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 5: hearing any of this and be like what are you 533 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 5: talking about? Longest relationships are easy and you know mental 534 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 5: health struggles, Yeah, you just move on. No, those are 535 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 5: real things that were going on and The hope here 536 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 5: is that you know your future is bright, and we 537 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 5: know cats will be bright, and that things you know, 538 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 5: new loves will come into your life. But today your 539 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: relationship the only It's funny, one of the only markets 540 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 5: we have people are still getting along is social media. 541 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 5: And you still follow Cat on social media, but we 542 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 5: noticed that Cat doesn't follow you any longer, which made 543 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 5: us think that there was, you know, a more of 544 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 5: a divide here than what we understood it to be. 545 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 5: Can you speak to that a little bit? 546 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like I said, we kept in touch for 547 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: a while even after the breakup, and she moved to 548 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 4: Sandy because that was her dream, that's what she wanted 549 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: to do. So she made that happen. And you know, 550 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: she would always call me and show me all the 551 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 4: sunsets and stuff, and she was talking about her new 552 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 4: place and how excited she was and how much she 553 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: was loving it. And then you know, at the end 554 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 4: of the day, I'm the one who cut it off 555 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 4: with her, and we stayed civil, we stayed friends, and 556 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: I think it was definitely it was hard for her 557 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 4: because it's not what she wanted. She was still fully invested. 558 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: She wanted to make you know, make it last and 559 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 4: do everything that she could and try. 560 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 3: To make it work. 561 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: But you know, I just started to see our differences 562 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: and I was just really struggling with you know, making 563 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: it work on my end. So when I cut it off, 564 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: I mean, she's doing great. She's living her life in 565 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: San Diego. She's a nurse practitioner now, she's got a 566 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 4: really good job. She's doing her own thing, having a blast, 567 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: and like I'm you know, I'm still working on my 568 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: stuff here. I got a lot to you know, to 569 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: figure out on my end. But it's just it became 570 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: clear to me that I think this was the right decision. 571 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: But when it comes to, you know, us talking, we 572 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: don't really talk much anymore. Now we're civil. If she 573 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 4: called me, I'd be there in a heartbeat if she 574 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: you know, if I needed her, I know she'd answer 575 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: the phone and she'd do anything she couldn't help. But 576 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 4: from like a relationship standpoint, I think, you know, after 577 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 4: a little while, she told me, she was like, I 578 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: don't think we should talk anymore because it's just it's difficult, 579 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: and I think she did it just to kind of 580 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: focus on herself and try to move on. She said, 581 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: just keeping in touch and always talking all the time. 582 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 4: It just wasn't helping her. So she made the decision 583 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: we just weren't gonna you know, really talk and keep 584 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 4: in touch like we're civil we're friends, but also it 585 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: was time for us just to totally separate. Yeah, so 586 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 4: I she unfollowed me, but you know, it doesn't bother me. 587 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: But I mean I still follow her because I still, like, 588 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: you know, seeing what she's doing and everything that, you know, all. 589 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: Her goals that she always talked about. It's nice. It's 590 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: nice for me to see you know, her getting everything 591 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: done that she wanted to get done. So that's why 592 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: I still follow her, just because I'm I'm proud of her. 593 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: That's sweet. How's your mental health now doing good? 594 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: I'm getting definitely getting a lot better. But you know, 595 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 4: just like I said, being in a relationship while dealing 596 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 4: with it, this was my first time, so it definitely 597 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: opened my eyes to a lot of things that I. 598 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: Didn't really know before that. 599 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: It took me getting in a relationship to realize, like 600 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 4: I got some things that I got to get figured out. 601 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: But after getting rid of, you know, getting out of 602 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: that relationship, and like I'm done trying to figure out, 603 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: you know, trying to make everything happen and move in 604 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 4: such a short period of time. You know, I'm just 605 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 4: back on a normal I'm going to make it happen 606 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 4: when it's meant to you know, meant to be, and 607 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 4: it's just way less weight off my shoulders. I just, 608 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: you know, I can. I can just make this transition 609 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 4: like I originally thought, you know, without it being so stressful. 610 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 5: Are you going to continue to dive then? 611 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: I mean for now, because yeah, now I'm back to 612 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 4: being single, and you know, I I definitely I don't 613 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: see myself getting into another relationship for a little while. 614 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: Like I said, I've got some things that you've got 615 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 4: to get figured out. 616 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: But I'm getting there. You know, I'm definitely getting better. 617 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm just gonna get myself right because 618 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: I know I hurt Cat, and you know that's the 619 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: last thing I want to do is. 620 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: Hurt somebody else. 621 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: So before I get into another relationship, I have to 622 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 4: make sure that you know I'm mentally ready for it. 623 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 624 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 5: Well, since so you haven't been out there dating, you're 625 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 5: kind of focused on yourself. 626 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: Not really, No, I just I took new job. 627 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: I can't really speak on it right now, but I 628 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: am making a move. 629 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 3: I'm really excited. It's gonna be super good for me. 630 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a super fun job that I'm going 631 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: to and uh yeah, so I'm just gonna I'm gonna 632 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: go and then I'm gonna enjoy this for my last 633 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 4: couple of years and then you know, I'll be ready 634 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: to figure out my next move after that. But for now, 635 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: this was something that I couldn't pass up and I'm 636 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 4: super excited about it. 637 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 5: We do as a favor and at least share on 638 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 5: social media what this new job is. In a week, 639 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 5: then when you can't talk about it, so everybody can. 640 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: I will. 641 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: It's it's still diving, okay. I'm just building something really 642 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: cool and a really cool location. 643 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: Oh, super fun. Good for you, man, that's awesome. Now, 644 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 5: speaking of diving, total change is subject this week on 645 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 5: National News, the largest tagged great white was found on 646 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 5: the shelf of Jupiter, Florida. There was a free diver 647 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 5: and people are down there filming the free diver, and 648 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 5: out from the depths of the ocean came the biggest 649 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 5: great white I've ever seen in my life. Did you 650 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 5: see this? Picture yet No, I actually have not. Okay, 651 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 5: you got to look at it. And then the second 652 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 5: question is have you had anything similar happen to you? 653 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: Have you had any massive sharks come up while you've 654 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: been diving. 655 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 4: I was actually cutting a big steel pipe underwater, and 656 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: it's a pretty wild concept of how we cut steel 657 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: underwater because we actually cut it with like electricity and fire, 658 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 4: but underwater. Yeah, so it's a pretty wild you know, 659 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: you say, like cutting stuff with fire underwater, Like people think, 660 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: like how does that even work? 661 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: But it's like it does because of electricity. But so anyways, 662 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: I'm down there and uh. 663 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: It's pitch black, it's muddy, I can't see anything, and 664 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: I'm just cutting this pipe and then and all of 665 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 4: a sudden, something just smokes me from my back and 666 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: it just throws me like eight feet and h It 667 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 4: was in the area where there's you know, there's a 668 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 4: lot of shark all the time, and you know, just 669 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 4: with how how it hit me, how hard it hit me, 670 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 4: and like I could tell like this thing's huge, whatever 671 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 4: it is, it is way bigger than me. 672 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: But I you know, I'm. 673 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 4: Cutting with fire, so like this thing hits me and 674 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: I just turn around. I get up and I can't 675 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: see anything, but I point this thing at him and 676 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 4: I just start shooting fireworks at him. And he didn't 677 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 4: come back, but you know, it was it was there, 678 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: but uh, after a little while, it just it didn't 679 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: come back. 680 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 3: So I just had to go back to work. 681 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: How many feet deep do you go? 682 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: Furthest The deepest I've been is one hundred and seventy 683 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: five feet rap, which actually, you know, in the diving 684 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: world is actually not even that bad at all. 685 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 5: Still in the in the recreational scuba diving world, that's 686 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 5: a lot. 687 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 2: I can only imagine the pressure on your body hole 688 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 2: and molly. 689 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: But it's fun. I mean, I love it. 690 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: It's every day is a thrill. Every day's something new. 691 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: Things happen all the time that like just it keeps 692 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: things interesting. And it's just it's one of those jobs. 693 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, like you know, 694 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 4: I come home and I kick my boots off and 695 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: I just think to myself, like, like what a day 696 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 4: that was, And then going tomorrow and it's it's something different, 697 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: something else happens. You know, it's not always good things, 698 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 4: but you know. 699 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: It keeps it keeps my drolling up, So I love it. 700 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 5: For now, have you seen the Instagram trend or the 701 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: TikTok trend right now where boyfriends are telling their girlfriends 702 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 5: that they're getting into underwater diving as a career. 703 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: Now, I did see that. 704 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 5: What do you think of it? 705 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 3: It's it's pretty funny. I actually wanted to do one. 706 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: I wanted to like, are you talking about the one 707 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 4: like where you got the job an Excellon mobile down 708 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 4: in the golf and like all their reactions are like no, 709 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 4: like you know, they flip out. 710 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 3: It's so dangerous. Well, I was thinking about. 711 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: Doing one, but like calling my mom and telling her 712 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 4: because she would just be like, oh cool, like yeah, 713 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 4: we'll have fun. But I'm not a big social media guy. 714 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: So it was like I just never got to it. 715 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 4: So I probably never will. 716 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: Your parents worry about you. It's like it's a dangerous job, right, 717 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 2: yeah it is. 718 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 4: But you know, I just just got to be safe. 719 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 4: It's one of those jobs that you know, you really 720 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: have to take serious and you can't cut corners and 721 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: you have to do it the right way, and uh, 722 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 4: you know, it's just I just make sure that everything 723 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 4: I do on my end, I do it right and 724 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 4: the way I'm supposed to do it. And then so, 725 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I can only control so much, but I 726 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 4: just you know, I just have to make sure everything 727 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 4: that I can control, I do it the right way. 728 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: You say that you want your future spouse to be 729 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: adventures enough to dive with you. What if you find 730 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 2: a girl that's scared of water? Is as a deal brigger? 731 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 3: No, I'll talk her into it one day. 732 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 5: It just start small, start small. I have no concerns 733 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 5: for you, John Henry. You're a good looking man who 734 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 5: can go to any bar or any place and they 735 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 5: say what do you do for a living? You say, 736 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 5: I am an underwater diver, and everybody is going to 737 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 5: be intrigued. 738 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: You have. 739 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 5: A lot going for you, and we appreciate you coming on. 740 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 5: I wish we could celebrate you because of this next 741 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 5: season of your life and this next job that sounds 742 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 5: super fun and exciting, and you get a smile on 743 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 5: your face when you talk about it, so obviously you're 744 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 5: pumped about it. But you know we will respect that 745 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 5: you can't talk about it now, so please share it 746 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 5: when you can talk about it, so that we can 747 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 5: celebrate you from a distance. 748 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 4: I'll let everybody know. But yeah, I am super excited 749 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 4: and I can't wait to share it. It's just it's 750 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 4: it's a weird story right now, so I can't, okay, 751 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: but when I can, When I can, I will tell 752 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 4: everybody and you know, make it known. 753 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: He's going to build Atlantis. 754 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 3: I wish, but it's it's just as cool, honestly. 755 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be like something in Dubai. Anyway, John Henry, 756 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 2: thank you so much for opening up to us. It 757 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: really means a lot sharing this story and well we 758 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: hope yeah the very best for you and can't wait 759 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: to find out all right. 760 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you guys for having me. This was fun. 761 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll talk to you soon. Thanks John Henry, see 762 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 5: you all later. That's been John Henry, great guy, a 763 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 5: lot of good things coming in his way. Wish him 764 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 5: and Kat the best clarity on the breakup, which is 765 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 5: good to have because obviously so many of these breakups 766 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 5: leave so many unanswered questions. We got the questions answer 767 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 5: today and so until next time. I've been Ben and. 768 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: I've been Ashley. Bye. 769 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 770 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts,