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Speaker 1: Welcome back to she Pivots. This is Destiny Spurloc.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to she Pivots, the podcast where women share

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Speaker 2: bold career moves and personal turning points that changed everything.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Emily Tish Sussman. I've always believed the

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Speaker 2: people worth watching are the ones who chase exactly what

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Speaker 2: they want and don't waste their energy worrying about whether

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Speaker 2: they're allowed to want it. That is today's guest. Destiny

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Speaker 2: Spurlock has always been fast. It started with a Barbie

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Speaker 2: Corvette and driving a go cart at five years old.

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Speaker 2: In middle school, she decided she wanted to be on

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Speaker 2: the boys football team, and when the coaches went digging

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Speaker 2: in the rule book for a reason to cut her,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't find one. Then came the Motor Sports set

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Speaker 2: a world record, and she did it in a sport

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Speaker 2: where she's almost always lined up against men on equipment

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Speaker 2: that was not built with her in mind. Today, she's

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Speaker 2: the first black woman to race in NASCAR, a sport

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Speaker 2: that's always been her dream but often seemed out of reach.

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Speaker 2: NASCAR doesn't traditionally look like Destiny, and her journey has

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Speaker 2: been anything but linear. She was a truck driver, a

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Speaker 2: flight attendant, and did whatever she had to do to

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Speaker 2: get on that track. She's not hardened by any of

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Speaker 2: it either. She focuses on moving forward, not how frustrating

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Speaker 2: the challenges can be, and the challenges both personally and

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Speaker 2: professionally are very real. Destiny is tough, but she's decided

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Speaker 2: to stay true to all parts of herself. Wearing her

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Speaker 2: copper jewelry and her signature sparkles across her cheeks, She's

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Speaker 2: changing the face of racing in the United States, one

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Speaker 2: star at a time. She's taking part in another history

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Speaker 2: race this week, this time with us behind her. Her

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Speaker 2: story moved me so much that she pivots is breaking

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Speaker 2: into motor sports. We're sponsoring Destiny's car in that race

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Speaker 2: on Friday, because the whole point of what we do

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Speaker 2: is women supporting women, and disruptors backing other disruptors. Using

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Speaker 2: what you've built to support the people paving their own

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Speaker 2: way without asking permission to do it. This is Destiny Spurlock,

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Speaker 2: and this is how she pivots. What is your name

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Speaker 2: and what do you do? My name is.

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Speaker 1: Destiny Spurlock, and I am a professional motorsports racer.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go all the way back. I know

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Speaker 2: you've talked about how you grew up in rural Virginia

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Speaker 2: and got a love for motorsports through your family, but like,

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Speaker 2: let's get some more detail here, like how rural is

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Speaker 2: rural Virginia?

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Speaker 1: Where I'm from is King William County super country?

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Speaker 3: Like you have to go about fifteen miles to get

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Speaker 3: to closest Walmart, so all we know is outside. So

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Speaker 3: therefore it's my grandfather's fault of why he got me

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Speaker 3: into all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I got a Barbie Corvette before I could.

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Speaker 3: Walk, so I guess I got the need for speed

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Speaker 3: early turned three years old, my mom and dad bought

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Speaker 3: a motorcycle and I used to cry because I wanted

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Speaker 2: So that's the way we started.

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Speaker 1: It got crazy, you're after that. At five, I was like, Dad,

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Speaker 1: I don't want a go cart.

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Speaker 2: What does my dad do?

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Speaker 1: He goes gets me a go cart.

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Speaker 3: Then I get in it and I make my own

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Speaker 3: track around my grandparent's house. My grandmother hated it because

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Speaker 3: she's like, your poppy, he works so hard on this grass.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, he had great, but this is my track,

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Speaker 3: my poppy. He didn't care. So my godfather. He's the

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Speaker 3: one that uh drag raced motorcycle. So I went to

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Speaker 3: the dragon at twelve, I was like, this is what

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Speaker 3: Turned sixteen, my mom got me my first motorcycle and

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Speaker 3: that's where the journey begins. So I do have siblings.

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Speaker 3: On my mom sides, me and my little sister Dallas,

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Speaker 3: she's twenty two. Then on my dad's side, it's four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a baby brother that is now six.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but my family has always been there for me,

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Speaker 3: super supportive from day one, traveled a lot. My mom's

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Speaker 3: my best friend. But my grandparents and my grandma, my poppy,

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Speaker 3: they are my hearts. So but my family is we

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Speaker 3: immediate family, like my cousins. We all grew up fifteen

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Speaker 2: That's like real village, yes, like real village leven. Literally.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't only mortar sports that you were into. You

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Speaker 2: also played football in high school.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I played football in middle school. In high school,

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Speaker 3: I was the only girl, and people are like, were

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Speaker 3: you the kicker? No, I actually played. I played corner

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Speaker 3: in safety. But even before that, my mom had me

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Speaker 3: into tap, in, ballet, karate, gymnastics, competition, cheerleading, anything you

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Speaker 2: My family's like go after it. Did you take something

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Speaker 2: I'm done with that. Now it's motorsports, believe it or not.

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Speaker 3: Everything from when I started tapping ballet, everything that I

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Speaker 3: It just always puzzled together, and even into.

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Speaker 1: Motorsports, like I got the go kart, now I raced professionally.

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Speaker 3: I was a flight attendant for Delta. Now with me traveling,

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Speaker 3: I know how to maneuver things. So it's just like

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Speaker 3: everything I've done has always circled back to.

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Speaker 2: Help me going into I think particularly football, if you

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Speaker 2: I imagine that also served you well foreshadow and where

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Speaker 3: So before I literally woke up one day, went to school,

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Speaker 3: I try out. Then after the tryouts, the coach said,

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Speaker 2: We get in there.

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Speaker 1: They said, we look for everything we possibly look for

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Speaker 3: Then they said, well, why do you want to play football?

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Speaker 3: Like is it because you like girls or something?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, mind you, I'm in middle school now,

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Speaker 2: So I'm like what you know?

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Speaker 3: Later on I understood, but my mom's like, no, this

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Speaker 3: But to hear them say they tried to cut me,

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Speaker 2: Let me play.

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Speaker 3: Did that drive you one thousand percent because that showed

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Speaker 3: really know about football. I just knew I liked to play.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know the fundamentals of it. But the fact

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Speaker 2: Yes, What were the logistics of being on a boys team?

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Speaker 3: That was another part of why they didn't want me

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Speaker 2: Destiny has always pushed boundaries and followed her passions. There's

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Speaker 2: no stranger to being a woman in a male dominated sport.

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Speaker 2: Coming up She'll tell us how she got into motorsports,

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Speaker 2: the most expensive sport you can possibly pick, and the

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Speaker 2: Be right back, and so how did you pick up

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Speaker 1: So motorsports was a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: So I started that my sophomore year in high school

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Speaker 2: Sign me up, Like I just loved it. And then, oh,

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Speaker 3: Six years old and the movie Biker Boys had came out, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So it's always been in me.

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Speaker 2: Well, you picked the most expensive field probably that you

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Speaker 2: it's a literal car or bite. Yes, So did that

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Speaker 3: So NASCAR was always my first love. We grew up

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Speaker 1: Always watch it and I'm like, I want to.

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Speaker 3: Do that, but I didn't know how to get into

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, we're still going to keep this in

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Speaker 3: my brain that I want to do, but we're going

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Speaker 3: I figured I'd start there and work my way up.

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Speaker 3: Racing in general is my purpose and it's an outlet

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Speaker 3: something to do where little boys and girls can look

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Speaker 3: Because if it wasn't for my god dad, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: So to talk us through this timeline, it's your senior

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Speaker 2: year of high school. So that was when I first started.

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Speaker 2: My mom bought me a two thousand and six Suzuki

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Speaker 2: then I got the chance to ride BMW motorad They

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Speaker 3: Because you know, I've had other opportunities where companies have

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Speaker 2: of racing motorcycles. She was good at it, very good

438
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 2: at it, and people started to notice the road to

439
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: NASCAR has been a winding one. So I asked her

440
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: about the personal challenges at this time and how the

441
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 2: support system she found her family became an integral part

442
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 2: of that journey. What was your personal life throughout this

443
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 2: entire time You're racing, You're taking different jobs, what was

444
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: going on personally for you that you were like, okay,

445
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go, Like I'm ready to pick up

446
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 2: a move.

447
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 1: So when I moved from virginiaton North Carolina, I was

448
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 1: actually living in my mom's rvy.

449
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 2: My lease was up on my house.

450
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: Chris and Kelly have been saying, we're going to make

451
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,479
Speaker 3: this happen, but again we did know like when that

452
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: time was going to be. So I'm like, okay, I

453
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 3: don't want to renew my lease. Caught my mom was like, Mom,

454
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 3: can you bring your RV up here. She's like, yeah,

455
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: oh God, I don't want to cry. So she brought

456
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: her RVY up there. At the time, my boss he's like, you.

457
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 2: Can park your rvy.

458
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 3: He's like, you can park your RV at one of

459
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: my other buildings. Because my boss he was very supportive

460
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 3: of me. He you know, he knew racing was my life.

461
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 3: So my mom brought her RV up there.

462
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 1: I parked it on his property for a little bit

463
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: and whatever I needed.

464
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 2: He's like, I'll help you.

465
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: I lived, Me and my dog Drago lived in my

466
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: mom's RV for a little bit. That was in November

467
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 1: and then I got the call from Christan Kelly like

468
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: February and they're like.

469
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: Let's do it. So during that time in my.

470
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 3: Life, it was very hard because you know what you

471
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: want to do and you're putting in the work everything

472
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 3: that you can. But also I have a support system

473
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 3: for my family, Christian Kelly and my old boss Paul.

474
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 3: That's what kept me going. And now we're here.

475
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: So that just makes me very emotional because that was

476
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: one of the toughest times in my life at that

477
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: time because it's like you have to have faith, but

478
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: you don't know because it's in front of you doesn't

479
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: look like what you believe, but you just have the trust.

480
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 2: When you say that you put everything into it, what

481
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: does that entail?

482
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: Like?

483
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: What were you putting into it? So?

484
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: I literally was working sixteen hours a day Monday through

485
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: Saturday for the most part, and this was during winter.

486
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: I also used to drive the snowplowd truck that was

487
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: in Richmond. So my dog sitter. I will call her

488
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: when I had to go down there. When we knew

489
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: a snowstorm was coming, I'm like, hey, can you watch Drago?

490
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: She would come and stay in the RV with him

491
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: while I drove the Richmond Sometimes I'm out there for two, three,

492
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: four days in a row. So when I say putting

493
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Speaker 1: everything into it, I was doing everything I could to

494
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: make sure everything was taken care of with what I

495
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Speaker 1: could do.

496
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: And you've stayed very physically fit to be racing. Why

497
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: is that important in racing and how did you fit

498
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Speaker 2: it in?

499
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 3: Well, one someone I'm not going to say his name,

500
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: he said, we are not athletes as motorsports racers, but

501
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: we are very much athletes. We work out what I

502
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: work out six days a week. Most of the time

503
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: five I'm in the heavy lifting, cardio and durance training

504
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: or doing reaction board training because you know, you have

505
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: to have your reflexes together on the sim.

506
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: And then it's just anything that I can do to

507
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: make sure I'm physically fit, because you can lose up

508
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: to five pounds while you're in that car, and a

509
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that.

510
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 2: Lose five pounds of water weightweight. Wow. Yes, it's very hot,

511
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: very hot.

512
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: We do have cool suits now, but sometimes the cool

513
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: suit is not enough. Yeah, So you have to make

514
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: sure you have muscle mass and you're physically fit to

515
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: push through when your body wants to give out.

516
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: How did you have time to train when you were

517
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: working in the RVA. When I was in the RV,

518
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: I had a gym membership at Golds. Some mornings I

519
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: would go before I went to work, but most of

520
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: the time it was after work. So I'll come home,

521
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: get Drago together, make sure he's good, or call the

522
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: sitters see if she can check on him. Then I'll

523
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: drive probably like ten miles to Gold, work out for

524
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: two hours, then come back home, get ready.

525
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: For work, all over it. And then when I couldn't

526
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: do that.

527
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: Me and Drago go to the park or something, and

528
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: you know how they have the little agility bars and.

529
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: I love those. Yeah, we would do that. Now you're

530
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: transitioning to nascars, which means you're moving from bikes to cars. Yes,

531
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: what was that transition? Like?

532
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: So I love when I get this question because I

533
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 3: feel like the motorcycles really helped me tremendously for the cars.

534
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: Because the NASCAR, you're going over two hundred mile an hour.

535
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: We were going over two hundred mile an hour on

536
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: the motorcycles too. So a lot of people say that's

537
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: the part that people have to overcome the speed, but

538
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: that was already in me.

539
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is all we got, Like, let's go.

540
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: I need more. So that part wasn't too bad.

541
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: Now it was about learning the racecraft of everything, meaning

542
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: how you enter into a turn, What does it feel

543
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: like when you're in the center of the turn? Where's

544
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: your car position that can give you an advantage over

545
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: the other car? You know, it's all these techniques and

546
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: things that now I have to learn. So the transition

547
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: has been great because I'm a sponge. I love to learn,

548
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: Like there's never enough learning for me. So it's it's fun.

549
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: The skill is a lot bigger, like now that you've

550
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: moved from bikes to cars, like the it's a literal car,

551
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: not a bike, Like it's a bigger machine. Yes, you

552
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: have more people on your team. Yes, how did you

553
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: put the team together?

554
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: Like?

555
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: How has that been for you?

556
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: Chris actually met my coach. He's where I work out at,

557
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: you know, I me and coach Phield. Coach Field connected

558
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: us with Carl Long of NBM Motorsports, and Coach had

559
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: told Chris he's like, I think Carl's team is going

560
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: to be perfect for you. So I actually came down.

561
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: I met Carl. I'm on FaceTime with Chris and Kelly

562
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: because they couldn't come down. My mom's with me, my

563
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: grandfather's with me. I'm showing them the shop. I'm introducing

564
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 3: them to everybody, and I'm like, this is going to

565
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: be a great fit. Like you said, it's more people

566
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: on the crew. So I met everybody there. Everybody was

567
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: so welcoming. Everybody wants to teach or learn or whatever

568
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: needs to be done to make this team whole.

569
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Speaker 1: I feel like they were a really great fit for us.

570
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: Now leading a team how has that felt for you?

571
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: It's a transition. It's still new to me and I'm

572
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: still learning, you know.

573
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: But with me learning now, I can now give more

574
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: driver's feedback to like my cre chief Jason or you know,

575
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: the pit guys. I'm like, this is what I'm feeling

576
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: here on the track or you know, X y Z.

577
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 3: And it's pretty cool because now they're not guessing or

578
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: they're trying to chase an issue. I'm almost to the

579
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: point where I can almost tell them exactly what it is.

580
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: So that feels really good. Yeah. What other kinds of

581
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: changes have you had to make, either to the car

582
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: or working with your crew? Yeah? So one was my seat.

583
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: So when I first got my first seat poor, which

584
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: is exactly what sounds like that you sit in your seat,

585
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 3: but they pour this hot stuff around you and it

586
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 3: molds to your body.

587
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: I know, it sounds expreciating. Okay, it's not. It's actually

588
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: very calmly.

589
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: So I had got my first seat poor done gosh,

590
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: back in February. I guess well, I had not driven

591
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 3: that car since about February, and I just got into

592
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: it last month. And let's just say I gained some

593
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: muscle mass.

594
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: So that's the first change we had to do.

595
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 3: We had to do a whole new seat poor because

596
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: that old seat had me sitting really high up in

597
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: my car. And again, these are things I don't know

598
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: until it's presented or you know, as I'm taught it.

599
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: So that's one change. I'm learning where I want my

600
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: body to be positioned in the car. Now I'm getting

601
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: a lot more awareness in my mirrors while I'm racing.

602
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: I'm learning that I like a loose car more than

603
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: a tight car. So what does that mean. A loose

604
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 3: car when you go into the urn, it's kind of flowy,

605
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: like it just goes. A tight car is when you

606
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: turn left and it's not turning, it just wants to go,

607
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, towards the wall.

608
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: So I like a more loose car. So I'm just,

609
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, learning everything, and it has been amazing. I

610
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: watched your docuseries, which is so great. I recommend everybody

611
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: watch it.

612
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: And one of the things, I mean, I know from

613
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: knowing you and talking to you, that you are the

614
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: first black fece email who's racing at this level at NASCAR.

615
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: It's quite stark when you see it in the docuseries,

616
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 2: like you really see it when it's something that's different

617
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: and visual. How do you feel when you're in those spaces.

618
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: So I never went out to be the first, right,

619
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: this was just a little girl from Richmond that loved

620
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: NASCAR and said you wanted to do it. So I

621
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: just so happened to be the first. But with that,

622
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: it is great because before I even got to this point,

623
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 3: when I was just a little local racer, I would

624
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: take my arena car because I used sorte arena cars

625
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: as well, and my motorcycle to inner city schools for like.

626
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: Their career days. So many little boys and girls are like,

627
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: you're a girl. I'm like yeah, They're like, and you

628
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: race that.

629
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm like yeah.

630
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: So to be at this level where we can get

631
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: the word out more to these little boys and little girls,

632
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: to let them know, hey, you don't have to be

633
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: a racer. You can also work behind the scenes. You

634
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: can be a pit crew member, you can be an engineer,

635
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: you can work on the tech side, whatever it is.

636
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 1: So to be the face the first and how these

637
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: opportunities to give to the next generation coming up is

638
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: it means so much to me.

639
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: Since you didn't have the role models, it really looked

640
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: like you, who were your role models in it?

641
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: My mom, believe it or not, even though she didn't race.

642
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: She my mom has always been my role model because

643
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: she told me at four years old, destiny and if

644
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: it's something you want to do, do it.

645
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: I live that.

646
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't care what it is like, even the football thing.

647
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna do it.

648
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: My family's like, go for it, and my mom, she

649
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: has been through a lot in her life, but to

650
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: see her keep going and never giving up, she's.

651
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: My biggest role model. One of the other things that

652
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: struck me in the docu series was that there are

653
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: so many women around you who clearly have experience in

654
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: NASCAR but hadn't really found a home, and they really

655
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: do with you. Yeah, how have you guys all found

656
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: one another?

657
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: So it's funny at Coach Phil's facility, it's four of us,

658
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: four women. You have me, I'm a driver, Then you

659
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: have Cassidy, she's another driver. You have Brionna's first black

660
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: woman tied changer in NASCAR, and then you have the

661
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: other brew who's my training.

662
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: All of us, when I say we are.

663
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: One big family because we understand what it's like being

664
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: a woman in this space, you have people that don't

665
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: want you to be there. Then you have people that

666
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: do want you to be there. But it's like we

667
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: know that, and we can confine in each other and

668
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: have each other's back.

669
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: So I feel like.

670
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: We really truly uplift one another though. That feels really

671
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: good to have.

672
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: Can you say a little bit more about what it

673
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: is like to be in this space as a woman.

674
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: It's different because it's a NASCAR, but it's not different

675
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: because I've had to go through these things and everything

676
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: I've done. Because I've been in predominantly male dominated spaces,

677
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: it's expected that you have people that don't want you

678
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: to be there, or they're looking.

679
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: Like why are you here?

680
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm here because I want to be

681
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: and this is what I love to do and this

682
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: is my passion. I ignore it. The fans have been insane,

683
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I want to say the least. I mean, you have

684
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: fans that love, love, love, love me, you know, love

685
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: women in motorsports, but then you have fans that don't.

686
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: So I guess it's where the balance come in.

687
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: But I just ignore the negative ones and I embrace

688
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: the positive ones, and I keep going after the gold

689
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: that I have. So when we get big posts one

690
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousand views, of course you have your more

691
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: negative people in there. But I've experienced that earlier on

692
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: in my life, so I don't feed into it. I

693
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: feel like if I would have got became the first

694
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: earlier instead of now, it probably would affect me more

695
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: because when I was younger, I cared about what people.

696
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Thought of me. I wanted to be accepted, I wanted

697
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: to be included. Now everybody has an opinion. You know,

698
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: you can't satisfy everyone. As long as you're doing something

699
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: you love and you're inspiring others, that's all that matters.

700
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: If you have a strong sense of self, if you

701
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: feel like it's worth it, then it becomes a lot easier. Absolutely.

702
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: Yes, Like you said, if you have the confidence in

703
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: yourself and you know what you're capable of doing, forget

704
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: the the other stuff.

705
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the things that feel like a moment

706
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: and you're like, yes, this was worth it.

707
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: The kids, Like I tell everybody, I love what I do.

708
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: I love racing, but it's the kids that do it

709
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: for me because I'm not going to be here forever.

710
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: But to know that I'm in.

711
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: A grocery store and a little girl noticed me. She

712
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: comes up to me. She's say, Destiny, I want to be

713
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: a race car driver like you. That's my lie because

714
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: I didn't have that growing up. You make a lot

715
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: of time for them at races. How do you build

716
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: that into not just your schedule, but like your emotional

717
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: bandwidth at a.

718
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: Race schedule wise is not really put in. It's like

719
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: I'm walking and the kids are like hey, and I'm like,

720
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: whatever we got going on, we gotta have the time out,

721
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: Like you know, we gotta wait because the kids.

722
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

723
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: It's just I know how important little moments like that

724
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: is for little kids.

725
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: So if I can take two minutes out of my

726
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: busy schedule, We're gonna do that because that might be

727
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: the change that they need it, you know, to shift

728
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: them in a different direction, in a positive direction.

729
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: Destiny never set out to be the first. She just

730
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: wanted to race. But now little girls find her in

731
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: the grocery store and they tell her they want to

732
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: drive too, and she stops every time because she knows

733
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: the impact of seeing what can be possible. Next, we'll

734
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: get into the story behind Destiny's signature face. Sparkles, how

735
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: she's bringing her creativity onto the track, and the reason

736
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: she'll be raising and a familiar looking purple car this week.

737
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: We'll get there right after the break. I want to

738
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: talk about some of the symbolism that you have. You're

739
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: obviously very creative. Thank you. You raise the number sixty

740
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: six on the car and you wear this necklace, so

741
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: you can tell us about the different symbols.

742
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: Okay, so sixty six, that was not my choice. That's

743
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: our team number because I Recharta has their own numbers.

744
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: But the three three three is significant to me because

745
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: I was born in the third month March on the

746
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: thirtieth day. That's another three. The year nineteen ninety two.

747
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: So if you add one plus nine plus nine plus

748
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: two at equals twenty one. But if you break that

749
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: down two plus one, that's another three. My Poppy's favorite

750
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: bracers Dale Aaron Hart number three, so I always love three.

751
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: And then it's the Holy Trinity, the farthest on the

752
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: Holy Spirit.

753
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: So that's my three three three story. Yeah, yeah, very symbolic.

754
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: Yes, there's more symbolism I have you So that question

755
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: actually was not my question. Okay, that was my six

756
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: year old daughter's question. I love that you go girl

757
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: that we watched your docuseries together and she wanted to know.

758
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: And then she asked me how your freckles are white,

759
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, because they're better than freckles.

760
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: I love it. They're sparkles A definitely, So what what

761
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: is the symbolism of the sparkles?

762
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so my first scent NHR pro Stock.

763
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: I'm the motorcycle. I'm so used to wearing jewelry. I'm

764
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: in the staging lanes and they're like, hey, you gotta

765
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: take your jewelry out.

766
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean. They're like, it's not safe.

767
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like this is my luck literally.

768
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: Because everything's copper. I always wear copper. Everything's copper. So

769
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, not only is it cute's balance for me.

770
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: So now I'm feeling naked as I'm taking this off.

771
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: So I'm like, Okay, we can't wear jewels.

772
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: What can we do?

773
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: I was scrolling on something and then it was like

774
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: Flink Avatar. Disney Avatar is my favorite movie, so naitiri.

775
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: If you notice they have like glowing sparkles or freckles

776
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: on their face, I'm like, we have.

777
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: To find this.

778
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: So I go to TikTok and I find them. I'm like,

779
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: this is perfect. They're gold, which is close to copper, Like,

780
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: let's do it.

781
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: Put them on.

782
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, this is perfect. So it gave me

783
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: that feel of jewelry. But it also gave me my

784
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: warrior inside, you know, pulling out like so that's where

785
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: they come from. Well, I mean I feel like I

786
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: do that with my hair. I feel like this is

787
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: my power. Yes, her need to have jewelry out.

788
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: Of your dress, like, this is my power. Are they

789
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: sponsoring your yeah, not yet, opportunity absolutely. Also, I have

790
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: to show you. So we just watched your docuseries. My

791
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: daughter gave herself your sparkalls.

792
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: You go, girl.

793
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: I love that. I love this. I didn't know that

794
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: she was doing it, and she had a playdate and

795
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: I walked into her room and she has her playdate

796
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: and her its mom get out. She was like, we're

797
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: all doing sparkles like this sing. So how did she

798
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: do it?

799
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't know where she found these sparkles, but there's

800
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: now glitter all over my house. I love it.

801
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: Sorry Emily for the glitter, but.

802
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: I love it.

803
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: That makes me so happy. But see it's things like that. Yeah,

804
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: and her best friend is it. She calls herself a

805
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: big tomboy, and so we explained to her. We said that, well,

806
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: these are Destiny who races with boys, and she was

807
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: like with boys and lit up and she's like, I'll

808
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: take the sparkles to the Yeah.

809
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I call myself a pretty tomboys.

810
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: I love that. That's balance. So you get that a lot, right,

811
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: like the with boys. So can you explain that people

812
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: are like with boys?

813
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: So they're like, okay, this is cool. You race motorcycles

814
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: or you race cars. And then they're like, wait with boys. Yeah,

815
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: they're like, so there's not just a women's Like. I'm like, no,

816
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: we race with the boys. It's maybe five or ten

817
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: of us, you know, throughout both spaces, but we do

818
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: it with the boys. And then when I say it

819
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: just blows their mind. They can't understand it.

820
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, are their physical differences advantages or disadvantages?

821
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: So yes, of course.

822
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: My coach always tells me, you know, guys, they have

823
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: more testosterums so they can be better in these spaces.

824
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I thought the end of that sentence

825
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: was they have more testosterone, so they're worse. No, right right, No, no, No.

826
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: He says that it makes them better because it makes

827
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: them stronger. I'm like, I hear you, but I feel

828
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: like we as women, we have to go through so

829
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: many different obstacles. So I feel like mentally, even if

830
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: we aren't as strong as them physically, we're still strong.

831
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: But I feel like mentally we definitely can overcome certain

832
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: situations better in these spaces. But I tell them all

833
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: the time, I don't care if guy has testosterone or not.

834
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: We can do this.

835
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna be great at it.

836
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter for this sport, like you're not lifting something. Yes, see,

837
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: I feel like it doesn't. Yeah, but my coach tells

838
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: me it is. But I feel like, no, you can

839
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: still do it. That's like why work out so much.

840
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not super big and bulky, But I

841
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: also feel like there's other races that are smaller than me,

842
00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: that are men.

843
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: They can do it.

844
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: We can do it too.

845
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think you're saying it just to

846
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 2: drive you agree when you think about the different ways

847
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: that it's not physically built for you, Like I imagine

848
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: like the shape of the seat or the height of

849
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: the car or things like that. You know, we're just

850
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: gone through this with Gotham FC, the women's soccer team,

851
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: thinking about the ways that we have to build it

852
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: for women.

853
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: It makes a difference. Like even the our straps, yeah,

854
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: you know how they're positioned. I feel like there could

855
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: be a different way that they can make those four

856
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: women because you know of our chest. I feel like

857
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: you said a lot of things that could be changed

858
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: or added to to help us as women in the space.

859
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: So were those things that you have to move through,

860
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: like physically every time you get into a car or

861
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: a race, or like, what are some of those things?

862
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 3: One A lot of times they don't have you know,

863
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: accessible bathrooms even in general, So that's some things. And

864
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: then like even when I change, I have to kick

865
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: everybody out of the trailer so I can change because

866
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: we don't have designated areas. Even though it's something we

867
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: have to navigate through. I'm so used to it because

868
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: I've been in these male dominated spaces where they never

869
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 3: cater to women, you know, because they were male dominated.

870
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like normal. But that we're having

871
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Speaker 1: this conversation, we should like You're like, I'd love a

872
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Speaker 1: full bathroom.

873
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we need to figure this out. And I

874
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: also feel like as an investor, these are opportunities, absolutely

875
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: if there's a whole ecosystem of investments that are.

876
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: Open, especially on the older tracks that's mostly where you

877
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: see this at or your smaller short tracks for lack

878
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Speaker 3: of better words, reading zero point five miles or shorter,

879
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: that's where we don't have a lot of this. Someone

880
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: don't even have hot water. It's so many other opportunities

881
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: and things where Vescist could come in and help change

882
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: it up a little bit. Yeah, okay, so I'm coming

883
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: with you. Okay, we're doing this.

884
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm coming with you to the Indianapolis Race because

885
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: She Pivots is sponsoring you.

886
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: And the car.

887
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to talk about it. I'm

888
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: so excited for this race, y'all. Don't unders stand. I

889
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: am so ready to want to see this She Pivots car.

890
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: I've seen the you know, the mock up of it,

891
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: but I'm ready to walk into the shop and see

892
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: it and then like Emily, it matches your hair.

893
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Speaker 2: Girl, y'all. I'm so excited. I'm sorry.

894
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: I can't thank you enough. I can't think she pivots

895
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: enough like this is huge to have women to help

896
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: support me and create a great community around me like

897
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: you have has been everything. Emily, Well, I'm so excited.

898
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Thank you. I also know very little about motor sports. Okay,

899
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Speaker 2: can you walk us through all the things that are

900
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: going to happen on the race day. We get to

901
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: the racetrack, they have to take the car through tech,

902
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: so my team does that. I have to take all

903
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: of my gear, like my helmet, my.

904
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: Cute new suit that we gap, and my shoes and boots,

905
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: all that through tech to make sure everything passes.

906
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Speaker 1: Once we do that, then we get to go out

907
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Speaker 1: on the track for practice.

908
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: So practice is just for us to all get comfortable

909
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: with the track because some of us have not been

910
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: to this particular track before and somehow, but it gives

911
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 3: us an opportunity to set the car up properly, to

912
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Speaker 3: get the most out of the car that we can,

913
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Speaker 3: and for me to get comfortable and if there's anything

914
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Speaker 3: I want to change in the car, I can let

915
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Speaker 3: my team know that. Once we do that, now we

916
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Speaker 3: go to qualifying. So qualifying it allows you to see

917
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Speaker 3: who's going to be the fastest car versus the slower car,

918
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Speaker 3: and that's how they start you. During the race, you

919
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Speaker 3: either want to be all the way in the front

920
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: first two or you want to be.

921
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Speaker 2: All the way in the back.

922
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Speaker 3: And I say this because if something gets crazy, nine

923
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Speaker 3: times out of ten, if you're in the front of.

924
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: The pack, it's going to happen behind you. And if

925
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Speaker 2: you're all in the back, then you can see it happening.

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Speaker 1: We'll see I hope them top five, top ten qualifying

927
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Speaker 1: for us.

928
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Speaker 2: Because that'll be really good.

929
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Speaker 3: After you do qualifying, they line all the cars up

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Speaker 3: and then we do drivers intros. That's when they say

931
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: east driver's name and their sponsor and you wave to

932
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: the crowd and all the good things, and then it's

933
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Speaker 3: time to go racing. The same amount of laps pers Sey,

934
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Speaker 3: I think we go like two hundred laps on this one.

935
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Speaker 3: If it's not two hundreds one fifty, but we have

936
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Speaker 3: a break in between where we pit. We come in,

937
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: change tires, check out things in the car, and then

938
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Speaker 3: go back out. But because of the short track, we're

939
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Speaker 3: going around those laps a lot quicker. What are you

940
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Speaker 3: thinking about when you're driving passing the next car in

941
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Speaker 3: front of me? Literally, that's the goal. It's a lot

942
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: watching the car in front of me to see if

943
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Speaker 3: they slip up so I can pass them. I'm also

944
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Speaker 3: checking the people behind me to make sure they're not

945
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Speaker 3: on my bumper, or you know, they're not trying to

946
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Speaker 3: spend me or things like that.

947
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about a lot Emily, It's not one thing

948
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Speaker 2: in particularly, it's so much.

949
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Speaker 1: We do have earbuttons, okay, but we have a spotter.

950
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Speaker 3: So our spotter sits at the top of the most

951
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: of the time the stadium, and they're telling us when

952
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: we're clear, meaning if we're on the top of the track.

953
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: If he says clear, that means we can come down.

954
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: He has to be your eye in the sky because

955
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: we can only see.

956
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Speaker 2: But so much so I think a lot about what

957
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: is a metric of success at different points in your life.

958
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: And for a long time, getting to raise and now

959
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: car was your version of success. What is your version

960
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: of success right now? It's still my version of success.

961
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Speaker 2: Now that we're here, now it's time to go through

962
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: the different tiers. So right now I race an ARCA series,

963
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: which is where everybody starts in the NASCAR space. But

964
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Speaker 2: I also have raced in a few truck races as well,

965
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Speaker 2: but my ultimate goal is to race in the Cup Series.

966
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Speaker 2: So you have ARCA, you have truck series, you have

967
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: A'reiley Series, and then the Cup Series.

968
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Speaker 3: So now it's about me learning all that I can

969
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: in each space that I'm in to become the best

970
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: that I can possibly be and then go up these tiers.

971
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Speaker 2: It was amazing to watch you with your coaches and

972
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: in the docu series you take feedback very well. You're

973
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: very humble, You're good and your humble thank you. Yes,

974
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: it comes across that you are focused on getting yourself better. Yes,

975
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 2: that's always been my focus and I've always been a sponge.

976
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: I feel like you can never know enough. There's always

977
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: room for you to grow. So yeah, I thank you

978
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 2: for that because that's truly me. I'm a humble sponge

979
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: girl that just want to learn everything. What is something

980
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: that at the time you thought was maybe a low

981
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: point for you and now you see it as having

982
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: really launched you to the success you are today. Mmm,

983
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: it's a lot of those.

984
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: I would say, like there was one time and I

985
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: was going through some personal things in my life and

986
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say forget everything.

987
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: I remember how I told you, every time I do something,

988
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: it comes full circle.

989
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: I had got my first deal to race NASCAR, had

990
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: this big press release put out, had my car wrap

991
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: all the things. I'm like, yes, so we're here, and

992
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: then it falls through and I'm like, we're not trying

993
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: NASCAR anymore. COVID came right before I got another deal.

994
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: Then COVID came killed that. So there's been times where

995
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 3: doors have been shut, but I never gave up. I

996
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: always had to keep going because I'm like, it's in

997
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 3: my spirit for a reason. We just have to have patience.

998
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: When it's your time, it's your time. Do you think

999
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 3: you'll pivot again? Because she does pivot right, She pivot,

1000
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: so probably I probably will. I don't know if it

1001
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 3: would be a full pivot, but it may be an addition.

1002
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: What's percolating. So I love GT car so GC three,

1003
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: GT four Those are more coarse track racists, so it's

1004
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: not just Obal having a background and Formula four racing.

1005
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: I really grew a love for course style racing. I

1006
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: would love to race a NASCAR but if we can

1007
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 3: pivot and learn some GT three, g T four races,

1008
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: sign mea you know.

1009
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: So to answer your question. Yeah, yeah, I probably will.

1010
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you so much for coming on. Well,

1011
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: thank you. I'm so excited for the race. So already

1012
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: y'all ready ready, It's gonna be great. Yes. Destiny calls

1013
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: herself a humble sponge, someone who thinks there's always more

1014
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: to learn, who takes the feedback, who doesn't act like

1015
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: she's got it all figured out. When I asked her

1016
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: what makes it worth it, she didn't say the records

1017
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: the first she said, it's the kids inspiring the next

1018
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: generation of disruptors. That's her. Why. I've been thinking a

1019
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: lot about how we measure success at different points in life.

1020
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Speaker 2: For years, Destiny's version of success was just getting to

1021
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: do what she loves and getting to go fast. Then

1022
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: it was to race and NASCAR. She's there now, and

1023
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: she's already looking up at the next here and the

1024
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: one after that, and she's doing it her way. When

1025
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: I met her, I didn't want to just tell her

1026
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: story and wanted to back it. So this Friday, July

1027
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Speaker 2: twenty fourth, she Pivots is sponsoring Destiny at her race

1028
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, and I truly could not be more excited

1029
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: to be there and support her and I'll be there

1030
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: with her every step of the way, from learning the

1031
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: track at practice to listening in on the headset for

1032
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: every turn, and then we'll watch the Gotham game together

1033
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: that night. Let's see how destiny pivots see you at

1034
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: the track, pivoters. Thanks for listening to she Pivots. If

1035
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: you like this episode, follow the show so you never

1036
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Speaker 2: in your life who might need to hear it. To

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Speaker 2: You can also find us at sheepivotspod dot com. This

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Speaker 2: episode was produced and edited by Paige Davis Janatt, with

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Speaker 2: sound editing and mixing by Nina Pollock. Logistics and planning

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