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Speaker 1: But let's dive into something that's not necessarily happy and healthy.

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Speaker 1: And that's what happened on on Friday, a press conference

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Speaker 1: the capitalistic greed of the corporate greed. Yeah, corporations, they're

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Speaker 1: the government. That literally, their job to their shareholders is

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Speaker 1: to generate money. Just like all these people. Every agent's

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Speaker 1: than basketball, where the numbers are kind of set. In football,

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Speaker 1: the difference between ten twenty million dollars guaranteed is a

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Speaker 1: and ultimately they needed someone to capitulate the Panthers. Dave Tepper,

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Speaker 1: So I to me, they're either lying to the newspaper

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Speaker 1: years we've seen, like with Cleveland and some of these

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Speaker 1: mouth shut because their team sucks. They feel they need

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Speaker 1: to start controlling the message. If David Tepper lead this story.

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Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers are in major trouble for years to come. Now,

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Speaker 1: David Tepper as a businessman, he's one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: stock traders in the history of the h of the

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Speaker 1: stock market. That there's not even I mean, he's on

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Speaker 1: now Warren Buffett, like Easilite. He's an all timer. But

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Speaker 1: just because you're great at one thing doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 1: Jimmy haslum graded up stealing money from the Truckers boom

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Speaker 1: Os NFL team. It's been a debacle, right Shot Khan

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Speaker 1: everywhere he goes, every business, Prince Cash. The Jaguars are

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Speaker 1: a complete joke. This guy, elite guy on Wall Street.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers have been a disaster since he's owned the team.

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Speaker 1: And to me, if they're leaking this to lie to

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna pick Desmond Ritter number six? You

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Speaker 1: don't want anyone to know that that seems a little weird.

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Speaker 1: That would be an all time overdraft. This does reek

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Speaker 1: unless like you know, you're gonna get fired after the draft,

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Speaker 1: would make no sense. So to me, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: This has the owner written all over. If this is

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Speaker 1: team and things are not going well, they just can't

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Speaker 1: help themselves. Because this guy on Wall Street run firms

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Speaker 1: is used to being in full complete control. He knows

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Speaker 1: Yet in this thing, he knows nothing. He can't do anything.

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Speaker 1: He feels like he's just a complete role player. Even

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Speaker 1: and he signs the sweet college coach. He thinks, who's

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Speaker 1: been a disaster. They have no quarterback. They right now

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Speaker 1: it feels like they have no future. They're going nowhere fast.

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Speaker 1: And if it is the owner leaking this, the Panthers

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Speaker 1: are in major trouble for the foresee future. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see if more leaks come out of Carolina. It's something

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Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. It's it's they're They're a

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Speaker 1: franchise that could get weird fast. I got them red

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