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Speaker 1: Love. Welcome to the norty but nice show. I'm a

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Speaker 1: rob shooter and it is Thursday, which means our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Mark Lupa joins us. Hey, LUPI, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Luopy lewis here?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Luopy lou So I hear you have an amazing

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Speaker 1: story for us. You were in Kansas City. What happened? Mark?

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Speaker 2: I was in Kansas City to see Beyonce, and my

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Speaker 2: uper driver took a liking to me, and he gave

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Speaker 2: me a little tour of Kansas City. It was an

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Speaker 2: an extra added on thing to my to my rid

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Speaker 2: and he brought me right to where Travis Kelsey lives.

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Speaker 2: I saw his beautiful sky view apartment building and he

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Speaker 2: He wears a hat and he is very low key.

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Speaker 2: He does not like attension, but if someone approaches him,

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Speaker 2: he's very friendly.

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Speaker 1: I'm told this is lovely a couple of things. I

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Speaker 1: love that you're getting special attention from an uber driver.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Jonas your boyfriend's listening. I'd be very suspicious about that.

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Speaker 1: How many stars did you give him? How many? Oh? Five?

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Speaker 1: Of course? How many stars did he give you probably three, No,

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Speaker 1: probably five five. I love that Travis now is turning

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Speaker 1: want to see his apartment, where he works out, where

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Speaker 2: Well, there's not much going on in Kansas City, I

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Speaker 2: And so when Taylor comes to town, you know, this

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Speaker 2: is this is their super Bowl, this is their moment.

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Speaker 1: This is there. But maybe we should move there. The

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Speaker 2: They would have no idea what to do with us.

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Speaker 1: No idea. And talking about Taylor Swift last night a

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Speaker 1: huge Hollywood premiere. She had a big movie premiere in Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: don't I don't think she's faking that. Beyonce showed up.

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Speaker 1: Now a couple of things. Beyonce is turning her to

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Speaker 1: talk rumors about sort of competitiveness between these ladies. They're

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Speaker 1: both super successful. We do that a lot, don't we.

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Speaker 1: We really sort of like pit successful people, particularly women,

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Speaker 2: Now it's fabulous, and it's true. There's a room for

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Speaker 2: everybody here, specially those two.

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Speaker 1: two superstars, there's room for you and your best friend,

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Speaker 1: there really is. There's room for the rest of us. Okay,

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Speaker 1: It is big story. At the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: we're going to really dig into this Mark. So, Jada

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Speaker 1: Smith has a book out, and in the book, I

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Speaker 1: and Will Smith have been separated for seven years. She said,

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Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure it out, and they've done

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Speaker 2: It's a long while, and I'm just surprised that no

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Speaker 1: They did. I mean, there was a lot of reports

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Speaker 1: Even on this show. We talked about it. We had

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Speaker 1: So normally when couples are having difficult times. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: show be on for at least you know, five, six,

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Speaker 1: I know the whole show, the whole really, I think

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Speaker 1: It was that special table where you could tell all.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out the host had a huge secret

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Speaker 1: She had Will on the show, and he didn't mention this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: more revelations in the book. She thought the infamous Oscar

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Speaker 1: brutally honest in this book about depression, her thoughts on suicide,

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Speaker 1: which I think is a huge revelation, she's saying that

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Speaker 1: Chris Rock asked her out amid her marital woes. So

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Speaker 1: she said it was over a particular summer and Chris

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Speaker 1: getting a divorce? And she said to Chris, no, those

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Speaker 2: It's it's bizarre and kind of gross. And if I

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Chris is going to respond. He's been

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Speaker 2: I hope not. I think he needs just just to

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Speaker 2: it will, because anything that you say will just add

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Speaker 2: It's not a good look.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good luck. This book. Britney's book is

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Speaker 2: But but I you know my takeaway on this, and

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Speaker 2: I've looked through social media and people are really tired

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Speaker 2: think it's sort of pressing that she continues to exploit

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Speaker 2: a lot for yourself and for your family. It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: bit sick of this, and I think too. People are

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Speaker 1: not sick that you're really taking your time to figure

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Speaker 1: certainly entitled to do that. We're entitled to do that,

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Speaker 1: but it feels as if they deliberately, as a couple,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then don't make us feel guilty by asking questions.

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Speaker 1: You're the one that brought it up. This brings us

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Speaker 1: to our whole question of the day. Jada Pinkett Smith

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Loopy, back to

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Speaker 1: your favorite couple in the whole world? Wor what's going

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Speaker 2: So Taylor and Travis had a chill night, a secret

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift spent the weekend with Travis Kelsey for his birthday.

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Speaker 2: She arrived from Nashville, Tennessee, on Friday to visit the

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Speaker 2: ahead of the tight end games against the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: I like that she's turn to go, but I'm told

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Speaker 1: she's going to go to his next game. A couple

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Speaker 1: of things here. I want to clarify you. Saying tight

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Speaker 1: end makes me laugh. Why that's so funny because we're

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Speaker 1: not a football I didn't even know what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think it's a position on the field,

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Speaker 1: the pitch, is it a picture of field? I don't

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Speaker 1: a quarterback and he's like the captain. I think the

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Speaker 1: quarterback's the star. I want to be the tight ends.

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Speaker 1: It makes it sound like I've got a great bottom.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: That's right, so tight to end. I start to giggle.

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Speaker 1: I know, was so game football fans? We are so so.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what any of this means. And another

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Speaker 1: question I have is was your uber driver the source

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Speaker 2: I mean, he probably is a source because he was very,

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Speaker 2: very chatty, and I appreciate a chatty a chatty dress.

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Speaker 1: Uber drivers taxi drivers are the best sources in the world.

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Speaker 1: So yes, play nice, don't forget to vote on today's Paul.

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Speaker 1: Mark I love good theater. I do do what else

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to the Naughty but

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