1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour, final hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. 3 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: I don't want to waste a single second teasing anything 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: else that's coming, because I don't care about anything else 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: it's coming. I'm talking to Buddy Lily right now, and 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm loving it. Veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War. All right, buddy, 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: you just got over there, you get yourself signed up, 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: and you are leaving. You said, out on a convoy? 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Why a convoy? Where are you going? 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Went there? I was in Salisbury when I had the 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: first interview with these from this ladies from the court, 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: and she sent me to Tali, which is used to 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: be I take a stepping off point when people were 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: going into Mosam Beacon Viiara. For one time it was 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: a vacation spot. But anyway, when I asked her how 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: do I get there? And they said, well, most people hitchhike, 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: and I said, oh cool, my kids do not. We 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: I got a TAXI went to the hitchhike spot and 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: you took you took your place in line. If you understand, 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: you know, the first person there got the first ride 21 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: that came by, et cetera, et cetera. And my first 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: ride that I got was with a gentleman, older gentleman 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: who's my age now probably, but back then, uh, and 24 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: I had a heck of a time understanding him with 25 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: his heavy English accent, and he had a heck of 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: a time understanding me with my Southern accent, which is 27 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: pretty much gone now. But it was a nice ride. 28 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: He told me about, pointed out things. He had a 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: pristine sterling I'm sure you're familiar with that nine millimeter 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 2: just uh like a little submachine gun he'd had for years, 31 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: and with a back of you know, whole bag of magazines. 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: And he's just riding down the road by himself, glad 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: to have somebody come along in case they got into 34 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: a bang bang shoot him up. He let me off 35 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: at a place called a Sapi which Therasapi rivers one 36 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: a notable I believe it or not, in the middle 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 2: of a war. They were doing two breast rafting rafting 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: excuse me down there, which kind of surprised me. So uh. 39 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: In between there, I had gotten a ride with a 40 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: gentleman from Bird's Eye uh Farms. He wanted me. He 41 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: offered me a job, but again I pass out w 42 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: U because again I wasn't familiar with nothing. So anyway, 43 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: by the time I got into a sapie, I was 44 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: getting a little tired of the long comes a I 45 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 2: believe it was called a rock I know, army armed army, 46 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: armored vehicle with four young guys in it, and they 47 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: stopped back up give me a ride. I said, this 48 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: is very cool. So I'm heading into Salisbury in this thing. 49 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: And these guys have been called a terrorist call up. 50 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Oldest one was eighteen. They were sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. 51 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: And they took me into town and from there I 52 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: hooked up at the CID lady and she in turn 53 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: hooked me up with Anglo American Slash Force Management Service, 54 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: who hired me and put me on convoy duty escorting 55 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: timber trucks believe it or not, in and out of 56 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: the Tremanti Mony mountains between Talian there. 57 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so walk me through convoy duty. What is your job? 58 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: How many vehicles was? What is the danger out there 59 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: the environment? Walk us to it. 60 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: Okay. I went on as an a gunner with one 61 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: of the mahon who was carrying the magh you know 62 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking about felt fed and we drove around. We 63 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: were a we didn't stay in one place in the convoy. 64 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: We had a little I think it was an as 65 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: Susan and two guys in the front seat, me and 66 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: a machon in the back with the seven six y 67 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: two mag and we may we may ride a mile 68 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: back from the convoy. We may go up and get 69 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: in the middle of the convoy. And it was really 70 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: dangerous because they they would spread out too much. I 71 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: haven't got a you know, you know what I'm talking 72 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: about on that yea, And it was really uncomfortable. H 73 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: they would get hit. A. I took over as EXO 74 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: at one of the companies, but right after I left them, 75 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: the convoy got hit. But we would go in. We'd 76 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: leave the tally about one o'clock. We would go into 77 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: mal Setta, which was where one of the sawmills was at. 78 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: And then from Melsetta we'd take one truck and go 79 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: to Tillbury Estate, which was where I would end up 80 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: being stationed at. And there we would leave an empty 81 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: track the trailer and pick up one september that been 82 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: cut come back. They had a hotel there that the 83 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: company owned coross Us two bucks a night. We stay 84 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: there and about six o'clock and the next morning we'd 85 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: be back on the road back to Tally. Get there 86 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: about eleven o'clock, two hour turnaround and it was back 87 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: on the road again. 88 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: Buddy, you say again speaking with Buddy Lily, veteran of 89 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: the Rhodesian bush Bore, You say, after you left, the 90 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: convoy got hit? What does that mean? What happened to it? 91 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: Who did what? 92 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: They got ambushed? It was not far from Melsetta. I'm 93 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: not I can't remember everything, but it was scattered out 94 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: and they hit the one of the chase trucks like 95 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: I was on. Nobody was hurt, but the guys had 96 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: to give up the truck and get out of the way. 97 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: They had to hit the bush run. The other guys 98 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: UH opened fire and I found out that G three 99 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: brass line can break the windshield. I don't know if 100 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: you ever had that experience or not in a rick 101 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: or not, but brass flying in the windows will break 102 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: it all. None of the security people were hurt. One 103 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 2: of the civilians lost the leg it blew as hitting 104 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: below the below the knee and Mesty mop. 105 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Oh all right, all right, buddy, you you leave this job. 106 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: What's your next job? And why did you leave? 107 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: They had they needed an exo at the security office 108 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: at Temby. Uh here it's timberline off. I got Tillbury 109 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: excuse me, Tillbury Estate where we would we would go 110 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: into at night. And they asked me if I wanted 111 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: to do it, and I liked it. It was uh. 112 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: I was uncomfortable with the way the convoys were acting. 113 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: And if you try to control African drivers, forget it. 114 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: They don't know but one speed and that's fast. They're 115 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: racing each other. And some things in different countries don't change. 116 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: So I went there and they asked me if I 117 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: wanted to stay on. So I went on and had 118 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: my gear brought up from Tolly and I took over 119 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: as number two in charge. 120 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Buddy, Is that where you stayed for the remainder of 121 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: the war. Where did you go from there? 122 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: I stayed right there. I came home on R and R. 123 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: We can go back and fill in later, but I 124 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: came home in R and R after the peacekeeping forces 125 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: came in, and once I got home, I got I 126 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: got a call. Don't come back until we call you 127 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: because it wasn't looking real good. 128 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is still I'm assuming nineteen seventy nine, 129 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: what does. 130 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Phill seventy nine, Yes, sir, I got. I was on 131 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: the convoys for about ten days. So when they put 132 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: they asked me if I wanted to take over as 133 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: XO on the Militia Company or whatever you want to 134 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: call them. They're all Mashona. There were two, myself and 135 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: the other uh oh, I see he was white, and 136 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: then the rest of them are all Mashona, Mashona. 137 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: All right, now we are gonna continue this story, actually 138 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: right there in a moment Mashona, because this is something 139 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: that's obviously more appropriate word. I believe that I think 140 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: I called him shawna I. I don't know whatever, But 141 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: either way, we're gonna come back with Buddy. We'll find 142 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: out about these guys. It's just just two white guys 143 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: all black guys. I told you this wasn't a white 144 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: versus black thing like our dirty comedy media in this 145 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: country sold everybody. But we'll be back. Get the rest 146 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: of Buddy Lily's story. Veteran of the Rhodesian bush Ward 147 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: hang on, I've got on that him all inside on me, 148 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly. You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. It 149 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. Remember, you 150 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 151 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: Back with Rhodesian Bush War veteran Buddy Lily. Okay, Buddy, 152 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: you take over as XO. Sorry, that's executive officer for 153 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: any civilian types who don't understand what that means. You 154 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: take over as XO of a quote militia company. Were 155 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: there a lot of those? 156 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: I had? Well, I only had. I had sixty Mashona 157 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: in my company. I used the term militia. They called 158 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: himself guards. I had sixty giver or take. Some of 159 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: them stayed at the compounds where the Europeans lived at. 160 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: We kept two to three there all the time. You 161 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: know they lived there, I mean they they lived with 162 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: the families, They ate with the families. They stayed up 163 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: and guarded them all night long. And we usually we 164 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: stayed around sixty personnel giver or take all. 165 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: Right, so how are you getting around the country and 166 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: what are you doing? What? What what are you doing 167 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: with these Mashona tribesmen that that you're now basically in 168 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: charge of what what what are you doing? 169 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, as I mentioned, we had people that stayed at 170 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: the European compounds where the Europeans lived at White they 171 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: called them Europeans over there. They were the permanent security. 172 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: And then we ran UH patrols, mounted patrols, foot patrols, 173 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: usual saying stuff that you do anywhere else. 174 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: UH make an appearance, Let let the bad guys know 175 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: you're here and see if we can get you to 176 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: come out, which they did come out. 177 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: What kind of fighters were they? 178 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: Like? 179 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: Buddy good, bad idiots, brave. 180 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: To be real, honest. What I'm going to tell you 181 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: I got from some of the guys that I work with, 182 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 2: which a couple of them had been Rhodesian Light Infantry. 183 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: The hardcore we were, you know, the ones that went 184 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: to Korea or Russia somewhere for training were pretty they 185 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: were pretty hardcore. But the rest of them were just criminals. 186 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: They didn't care who the government was. They had an 187 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: AK forty seven and they could go out and rob, steal, rate, 188 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: do what they want to, and it was all for liberty, 189 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, to liberate the country. So if that gives 190 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: you an answer. 191 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: No, it is, it does. It's not a surprising answer. 192 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: At all. Comedies are always recruiting these dirtballs in any 193 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: society to go, but your wonderful people, There's no question 194 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: about it. What was the attitude of the Rhodesians when 195 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: it came to international things, meaning was their hatred for Britain, 196 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: for America for selling them out? Did they ever bring 197 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: it up? Did they not care? 198 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: Yes, kind of. I got checked out, vetted. They went 199 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: through my gear. They thought I was CIA, which I wasn't. 200 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if I was, I would tell you right now. 201 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: I was on my own and I'm not. As I 202 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: told one of the guys, I said, matter, if I'm CIA, 203 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: I'd be here to do something to help you. You 204 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: know when that ended that Britain they hated the Brits. 205 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: You can imagine what happened when the British sent in 206 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: people for the peacekeeping force. That was not pretty. 207 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: What happened? What was this peacekeeping force? What happened? 208 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: We're getting a little ahead of ourselves. But when the 209 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Lord Carrington, Jimmy Carter, I believe all of them got 210 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: together and they came up with this plan there was 211 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: gonna be free elections, which didn't happen. New Zealand, Australia 212 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: two other countries sent in suppose of leave peacekeeping forces, 213 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 2: which was a laugh because when these guys traveled with 214 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: our convoys, they traveled a lot and loaded. What does 215 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: that tell you? But uh, that's why I came home 216 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: in R and R because we had been we'd been 217 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: shut down. I couldn't do any patrols. My last patrol, 218 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: which is a good story, I'll tell that in a minute. 219 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: But we were shut down. That was it. 220 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: Tell me about patrol. 221 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: Well, let me let me if I could let me 222 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: go into the day by day. 223 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Routine, please go ahead, please, that would. 224 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: Work into everything. I hadn't been there too long when, 225 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: for what reason I never understood, the terriffs would go 226 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: in there and try and set the forest on fire. 227 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: It was a termber form. There was the thirty thousand 228 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: acres of Georgia pines there. That's hard to believe. That 229 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: they had brought him in years before, and they grew 230 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: exceedingly fast and healthy up there in the mountains. So 231 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: we had to provide security for the company workers, the law, 232 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: the saw mill workers who are trying to put the 233 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: fire out, and that ended up most of the night 234 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: about three o'clock in the morning. My E five in charge, 235 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: I call it E five. I have one sergeant, one 236 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: sergeant major, and everybody else were foot soldiers. He came 237 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: in and a little bit of humor stood at attention 238 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: in my room and sounded like when you're kippling with 239 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: this famous serve, I believe they want you at the 240 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: fire perfectly. So we hauled but out get down there 241 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: the estate managers supervising. This is two or three o'clock 242 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: in the morning, and they kept setting little fires different 243 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: places and it weren't burning good, but they were trying 244 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: to set them. So he told a sergeant and another 245 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: couple of the machoner to take me to a certain 246 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: area to get out and fire some rounds so that 247 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: one group may think that the other group was in contact, 248 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: which okay, that worked, so we did that. We come 249 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: flying back in through there, I stopped the we were 250 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: had what called Leopard it was supposedly a you know, 251 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: explosion proof vehicle, and we stopped and there was an explosion. 252 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: The army had sent a reactionary force from downtown Melsetta, 253 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: which is a lot of very but besides that, it's 254 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: not very big. But they had army detachment there and 255 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: they come up and they hit a mine. I could 256 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: see first heard an rpug go off which came from 257 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: the weapon, came from the army vehicle. They fired, and 258 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: I caught a glimpse of some green tracers, and I 259 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: hauled as well. Let me go back to my sergeant 260 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: again and for a little humor. 261 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: Well, hold on here, pause for just a moment, Buddy. 262 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt you midstory, but we have a heartbreak. 263 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: We'll come back and we'll go to your sergeant major 264 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: as you're in the middle of a firefight and land 265 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: mines and everything else. I hate to interrupt you at 266 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: this point, but hang on. We're going to commercial. We'll 267 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: be right back with Buddy Lily Ham. This is a 268 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on 269 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: an amazing Wednesday. I'm just nerding out right now with 270 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War, Buddy Lily. I've never 271 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: done an interview this long on the show, and I'm 272 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: loving it. All right, Buddy, the floor is back to 273 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: being yours. Got yourself in a firefight. There's RPGs green tracers. 274 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: That means a case by the way for people who 275 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: don't know. And the floor is back to being yours. 276 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: So my sage the same one. He stands up behind me. 277 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: I'm driving, and he says, Sir, I believe it is 278 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: an ambush, And I said, I said, I'm driving, You're 279 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: in charge. So I had to go up about fifty yard. 280 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: I don't even fifty yards, twenty five thirty yards, take 281 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: a left on the road, and I went nose to 282 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: nose with the army vehicle that had hit the mine 283 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 2: to avoid free fire. So in between all this it 284 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: wasn't funny. Then it's funny now they cut loose with 285 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: a G three. I had three guys in the back, 286 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: two of them had G three's and one of them 287 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: had a FA and the sergeant. They're firing over the 288 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: top through the canvas, and you know where all the 289 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: brass is going. You've been there. 290 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Before, yes, sir, I had one down my flack jacket 291 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: right time. All I've never just robbed so fast in 292 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: my life. 293 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: Ah. As you know at ambush is it's over in 294 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: thirty seconds. When I pulled in, everybody quit firing, and 295 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: two minutes later everybody's out front. They're shaking my guys 296 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: are with the Mashona Army guys. They're shaking hands and 297 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: exchanging cigarettes. And the driver gets out and he says, oh, 298 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: you're the yank. I said, yes, sir, and he said, 299 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: glad to meet you. You know. He said, this is 300 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: my fifth mind I've hit. And I looked at him. 301 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 2: I said, this is the fifth time you've hit him mine. 302 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: He said yep, And I said Jesus oh. And I 303 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: was deaf. I had I was still felting being burnt. 304 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: And these guys were just so relaxed, you know, you 305 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: automatically and Vrenlin goes down. Everybody's cool. So we went 306 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: back and had breakfast. What can I. 307 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: Say, Rhodesians? Did you find them to be good troops? Buddy? 308 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: Yes, the ones that I all the guys that I 309 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: worked with on the convoy. One of them was still 310 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: active duty from the Rhodesian Rifles. He had been in 311 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: the bush so long he had months of leaves, so 312 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: they gave him his leave. He was a sergeant major 313 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: and he was working for the company while he was 314 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: on leave. One of the guys had come from RLI 315 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: and I saw his record. In one month, he did 316 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 2: twenty seven jumps. How many guys real done? 317 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: Many? Good? Great, that's more than most guys doing their 318 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: whole career. Buddy, I have to ask you about your 319 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: last patrol. Tell us that story. 320 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: When the forces came in. The estate manager said, look, 321 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: we're going to have to quit. We can't go out there. 322 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: Well about a month prior, we'd had them come into 323 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: one of the villages, and unfortunately we couldn't catch up 324 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: with them before they got to the TTL, which is 325 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: their tribal trust land. We even put a block and 326 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: force out and just couldn't get to them. There's a 327 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: lot more to it, but that just mounted to So 328 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: with payday coming up, he said, let's go out. He said, 329 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: go out and let the tears know that we're looking 330 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: for him anyway, because they like to come into the 331 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: villages on payday and help themselves to whatever money they 332 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: could get. We were doing a short run. One my 333 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: point guy looked and picked up a letter. It was 334 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: a fresh letter, had been opened, but it was a 335 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 2: terrorist writing each other back and forth. And he says, 336 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: they're here. I said, oh great, So I called headquarters. 337 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: We had radios. They weren't real good, but we called 338 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: and I said, we're gonna follow them, so here we go. 339 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: I only had two I had five guys with me. 340 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: I had two canteens of water with me and that 341 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: was it. And we got on a game trail got 342 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: going down the hills. First thing I was walking point 343 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: at the time. The first thing I came across as 344 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: a trip wire. Well it wasn't a trip wire, it 345 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: was a snare. My guys explained to me that the 346 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: tears would snare an animal and just leave it and 347 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: when they needed food next time they come through, they 348 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: kill it, which is I'd get new. Well, you know, 349 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: we that slowed us down. We found it was a 350 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: nice trail, but we found one or two more though 351 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 2: it's been so long. And we came out of the 352 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: brush on the side of a hill a little bit 353 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: and next thing I know, I had my tracker was 354 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 2: up front. Stephen was his English name. He was a 355 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 2: mashoon and he was like a goat. He can just 356 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: walk up anything. Jesse. I looked down and there was 357 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 2: a stream down there and it must have been two 358 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: hundred foot straight down rocks and I have never felt 359 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: my gut come up in my throat like it. Right then, 360 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: two reasons. I didn't want to fall, and we were 361 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: wide open. We were following you know, terrorists four, and 362 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: now all I could think of I had screwed up 363 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: big time. I got this whole patrol right here in 364 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: the open, and we had about fifteen foot to go. 365 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: And when we finally got up there, I was man, 366 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: I would say. We all just kind of laid down, 367 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: and by then all two canteens of water was gone. 368 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: This has been six seven hours. Just got comfortable. Steven 369 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: looks up and he motions that and he put his 370 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: fingers up on on his collar, which so then I meant, 371 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, for me to come forward. There's a good 372 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: coming up the river the stream. He's not armed, and 373 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: of course they wanted me to take him out, and 374 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: we didn't know if it was a terrorist or whether 375 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: it was a villager. We sat there watching, watching. He 376 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: was going along doing something in the water, and I 377 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: could have got him. It wasn't over one hundred and 378 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: fifty yards. I could have popped him, but I didn't 379 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: want to shoot an innocent although they weren't supposed to 380 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: be there. Said okay, let's see if we can slip 381 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: down and capture him, which was not a good idea 382 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: because he probably had friends, but it was a good idea. 383 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: Time we knocked the rock down the hill, just like 384 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: in the movie. 385 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: Oh. 386 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 2: I motioned, the guys are going in defensive position. I said, oh, 387 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: we are so screwed. That was two mistakes I had 388 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: made the same day, and nothing happened. We waited. Finally 389 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: we used on down the hill. We got to the 390 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: creek and myself and Steven stood guard. Well, the rest 391 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: of them got in the water and then they stood 392 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 2: guard and we got down and got cooled off, and 393 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: everything ended up. We had lost radio contact. Headed up on. 394 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: Finally got upon a hill where I could reach the base, 395 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: told them where we were. They knew where we were at, 396 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: so they said, wait, we'll send their guys out to 397 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: get you. And we sat there talking and it was 398 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: very sad because one of the guys asked me. He said, mister, 399 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: They called me, mister budd, where are you going? You 400 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 2: can go home when this is over, And I looked 401 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 2: at him. I said, guys, all I can tell you 402 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: to do. If my gobby wins, take your weapons and 403 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 2: go to South Africa. Travel at night. All because they 404 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: could not go back to their villages just if they did, 405 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: they'd be killed, plus their families would be killed because 406 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: they had been you know, security people. So as by 407 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: then we got on back and we couldn't do anything. 408 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: You would just sit around, go just kill time and 409 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: you know, twiddle your thumbs. So that's when I asked 410 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: the boss about going home on R and R for 411 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: thirty days or whatever. Of course, they gave me a 412 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: wish list of stuff to bring back, which I knew 413 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: I couldn't do, but I would try anyway, And that's 414 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: about how it ended. Got home and got a call. 415 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: So there I was broke, unemployed. I tried to get 416 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: my job back with the government and that didn't go over. 417 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: Real good story, jes. 418 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Buddy, Lily, Buddy, I just cannot thank you enough for 419 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: forgiving us this perspective is it's something I know people 420 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: are just wrapped up fascinated by it. I've been fascinated 421 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: by it. Thank you for one your service to our country, 422 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: service to a wonderful country like Rhodesia, for giving us 423 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: some time. Appreciate you very much, buddy, Lily, simplify my friend. 424 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you and yours. By the way, Merry Christmas. 425 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 2: Best to you, and I'm very humbled that you let 426 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: me on your show. I thank you very. 427 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: Much, appreciate you, sir. I'm so nerding out right now. Chris. 428 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: If we didn't, if we had a longer show, we 429 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: could have kept him on longer. Why can't you arrange that? 430 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Don't you know? People, it's really Chris's fault. I know 431 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: at this point in time, your tea levels are probably 432 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: through the roof after spending more than an hour with 433 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: a guy who fought in Vietnam and Rhodesia. But for 434 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: the rest of us, we have to maintain it. 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You are ninety 445 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: days away, probably sixty to be honest, from feeling like 446 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: a different person. Make your twenty twenty six the best 447 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: year in years Chuck dot com promo code Jesse, We'll 448 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: be back I see Kelly Show. It is the Jesse 449 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Final segment of The Jesse Kelly Show at 450 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: a magnificent Wednesday. You can email the show Jesse at 451 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: Jesse kellyshow dot com. What a freaking week it has 452 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: been already we're cruising into the end of it. We're 453 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: like ten minutes away from Donald Trump addressing the nation. Now, 454 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: presidents are almost always late. You can be late when 455 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: you're the President of the United States of America. But 456 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: at nine pm Eastern, we'll see if the rumors are 457 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: true that he's essentially gonna say Venezuela's got it coming. 458 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: Jewish producer Chris disagrees that's what he's gonna say. I'm 459 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: not saying I think it is. There's a lot of 460 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: rumors going around. We'll find out. Let's hope by the 461 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: time I sit down tomorrow, we're not at war with Venezuela. 462 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: What Chris Chris said, Congress would never declare war. What 463 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: do you think you live in a country where that 464 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: still matters. They don't even ask Congress anymore. They just 465 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: they just decide to go do it whenever they want 466 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: to do it. It's just whatever, Jesse. We need to 467 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: import all of Western Europeans who hold our ideals that 468 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: are about to lose their lands. We will need them 469 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: to reconquer our own, and then we need to conquer 470 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: Canada as well. If Mexico, Mexico looks at us wrong, 471 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: they'll be next. I love Canadians, and there are so 472 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: many hardcore right wingers in Canada, and they are outnumbered impossibly. 473 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Now they were always outnumbered a little, but now I 474 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: heard an incredible stat and I don't want to misquote it, 475 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: so let'll we just clarify what I'm about to say. 476 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Maybe incorrect, but I think it's in the last four 477 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: or five years, Canada has had a twenty percent increase 478 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: in their population, all foreigners. They just completely look, I've 479 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: told you that's what they want to do. That's the plan. 480 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: You outnumber your patriotic citizens so they never have a 481 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: voice and you get to maintain your tyranny forever. The 482 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: ultimate patriotic issue is immigration. You can tell how patriotic 483 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: you are based on how you are on that issue, 484 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: because to the communist it is everything. Why do you 485 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: think they talk like this? How do you think it ends? 486 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: How do you think the era ends? 487 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: Oh? 488 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: This is I'm hoping. 489 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: This is what I'm hoping that midterms people come out 490 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: and vote like crazy to switch it over and then 491 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: the recon incomes. 492 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: That's what I want. 493 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 4: All everybody that work for ICE, I want them in jail. 494 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: I just want a wreck. 495 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: Everybody that works for ICE, I want them in jail. 496 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk like this that Democrats will now without even 497 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: like it's not like there it's a text message that 498 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: got exposed. They'll step up to the microphone in public 499 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: and they'll announce that immigrants build America, just right in 500 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: your face. They don't hide it at all. Again, here's 501 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: Steve Cohen. 502 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: They're arresting people simply for the offense of being in 503 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: the country illegally. 504 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: It's not right. They're mortified that we're deporting people who 505 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: are here illegally. Anyway, as far as bringing in people 506 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: who share our values, it's a fun thing to dream about. 507 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,239 Speaker 1: It will never happen. Trump did a little of it. 508 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: He brought in some Africaners. Remember Africaners. Well, actually, it's 509 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: a good time to bring it up. What happened in Rhodesia. 510 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: It's happening already in South Africa now too, where the 511 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: ruling communist elite there they've declared that white people are 512 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: the enemy, white people are evil, and white people were 513 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,479 Speaker 1: under assault over there. So in the white ones there 514 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: are called Africaners, and Trump brought a bunch of them 515 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: over here. Notice you never hear a word from them. 516 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: Notice they're not all on welfare. Notice they never run 517 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: to the news and talk like that. 518 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 5: The biggest worry of the new executive order is that 519 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 5: it does separate families. It doesn't create an exception for 520 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 5: you as citizens to have their family members be able 521 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 5: to come visit and celebrate milestones with them. And so 522 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: this is very cool. 523 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: They just show up, find a job, go to work, grateful. 524 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: Who you bring in matters a lot, It matters a lot. 525 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: Every culture is not the same, Every culture is not equal. 526 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: There are disgusting third world thieving, raping, murdering cultures out 527 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: there all across the globe. And the number of people 528 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: you should bring into your country from those cultures is zero. 529 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: You go and keep just go murder anyone you want 530 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: in your country. You stay out of my country, but 531 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: not us Because we have a Democrat Party and Republicans 532 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: like James Langford. We've thrown open our borders and brought 533 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: these barbarians into your classroom. That's why they ate your 534 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: cat last week. By the way, do you have a 535 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: Burnat compact launcher yet? Because these savages are all throughout 536 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: our society. Now, don't think that you're small Midwestern towns safe. Oh, 537 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: They're going to bring eight thousand people from Haiti and 538 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: park them in your in your kids' school next week. 539 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: Do you have something that will stop a bad man 540 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: from hurting you? Does your daughter? It's really, really, really 541 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: important to understand how dangerous our society has become. And 542 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: Berna is legal everywhere because it's not lethal. It shoots 543 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: pepper balls or tear gas balls or kinetic rounds. It's 544 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: private security companies carry these things. Swat teams carry these things. 545 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: Burna saves lives. That's already saved lives of my listeners, 546 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: b y Rna, Berna dot com, slash Jesse, Burna dot 547 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: com slash Jesse, and. 548 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: Now here's a headline by go you know, you know. 549 00:34:53,560 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: The thing headlines we didn't get to. Abdul o l said, 550 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: by the way, he's running for office in Michigan, not Lebanon. 551 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: I swear proposed commuting all sentences for juveniles facing life 552 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: in prison. The plan would grant early release to some 553 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: of Michigan's most violent killers. It's almost like they're trying 554 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: to put violent criminals back into society. No, that couldn't 555 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: be it, right, I'm sure they're just No. You've new 556 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: Canadian school rule forces kids to wear helmets to play 557 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: in the snow. Oh my gosh. I wish I could 558 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: tell my father about that. Hydrogen plays part in global warming. 559 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: According to a study, I reminded that there is no 560 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: global warming warming, no man cause global warming. The Earth's 561 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: weather patterns are exactly that patterns. It heats, it cools, 562 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: it does its thing. But the very idea that man 563 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: is destroying the earth is an idea that's going to 564 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: kill a couple billion people one day. Trump's marijuana move 565 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: has Democrats nervous, According to a CNN analyst, might say 566 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: they're paranoid. Foiled again. Fentanyl dealer shows up to court 567 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: with more drugs. Hey, that's where the criminals are. You 568 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: can hardly blame him for that. House Republican who voted 569 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: to impeach Trump in twenty twenty one won't seek reelection. Golly, 570 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: we have some freaking loser dorks. Rubio says he will 571 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: not run in twenty twenty eight and JD. Vance enters 572 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: the race. That is not only are they friends, that's 573 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: just a realistic acknowledgment from Rubio that Jdvans is going 574 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: to be very difficult to beat in the Republican primary. 575 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back tomorrow. I don't even know 576 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We'll have fun, though, that's all.