Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 1: Hi guys, Hi, Well, if it isn't our little announcement
Speaker 1: Queen raining, So we have another announcement today, but I
Speaker 1: just have to host chat about something because it's still
Speaker 1: kind of making me a little sick.
Speaker 2: Is it gonna make me sick?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe yes? Well escalated quickly.
Speaker 1: Okay. So Jolie had some birthday parties this past weekend,
Speaker 1: and it was one of those things where I'm just
Speaker 1: not good with. I don't even know if I really
Speaker 1: honestly RSVP to half of them.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like.
Speaker 1: There's like a lull, right, Like it's like six months
Speaker 1: no birthday parties, then all of a sudden there's five
Speaker 1: in a day. Yeah, and she's like coming home with them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, we've got okay, like this
Speaker 1: wanted to say the one that day, but when it
Speaker 1: it's also like I've got two months and then it
Speaker 1: just all of a sudden shows up like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh this weekend, well I forgot, and so
Speaker 1: of course Jolie didn't forget, and so she and I
Speaker 1: have mom the refrigerder. So she's like Mommy, it's so
Speaker 1: and so's birthday today, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like what uh crap, Like what time?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, do you really want to go?
Speaker 1: Like it's it, it's it's raining and it's a splash
Speaker 1: party and they've got a splash thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, we just took a shower, Like, no,
Speaker 2: we needs a petting dude. That's a horrible idea. So
Speaker 2: that was bad.
Speaker 1: That was a that was a bad mom moment because
Speaker 1: I was actually kind of trying to steer her to
Speaker 1: not go.
Speaker 2: I've done that, you have to Okay, Oh thank goodness.
Speaker 2: Oh you guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm waddling around my house. So if I can,
Speaker 1: I'm I can do anything right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank goodness.
Speaker 1: But also the problem was is I didn't have a
Speaker 1: gift for them. So I then tell the kids, Well,
Speaker 1: I tell Joela, I'm like, but we don't really have anything.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh no, wait, mommy, and she remembers that
Speaker 1: I put extra toys that like maybe they had a
Speaker 1: double or they didn't. We didn't use it from Christmas.
Speaker 1: I put it in nan on Papa's closet for I'm
Speaker 1: going to go in there and see gifts that I
Speaker 1: gave your game by possibly, but like you know, I
Speaker 1: they're they're like to stock up four like parties right
Speaker 1: for this exact situation. Well, the only thing that was
Speaker 1: left were like two bad stuffies and they had a
Speaker 1: tag on them still, but I'm like totally, it's a
Speaker 1: brother sister birthday party that are in her class, and
Speaker 1: like we can't just give like these like stuffies. They're
Speaker 1: like probably two dollars, you know, like just get a
Speaker 1: bad stuffies. Whatever they announced me not being named, I
Speaker 1: want this episode to be called do Bad Stuffies?
Speaker 2: Okay. So I was just like crap.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, like, oh, and I remember I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was packing because there's just a lot
Speaker 1: going on, and so.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I remembered that I saw some gift cards. One was
Speaker 1: like I think a half to used one from like Disney.
Speaker 2: Don't know how much is on that one. And I
Speaker 2: was like, d look at Disney card and I'm like, I.
Speaker 3: Saw, hey, Oliver, here's your balance of in Orlando. Thirty
Speaker 3: three fifteen is left on this card. If you and
Speaker 3: your parents might get to Disney, you're in the ball
Speaker 3: out of control.
Speaker 2: It was a Disney store. You can go where is
Speaker 2: this store? There's not even that Disney can online.
Speaker 1: DC. Just don't overspend twenty two eighty seven as all
Speaker 1: you have left with the post it note. So I
Speaker 1: didn't again, like know how much was on there, so
Speaker 1: and I already saw that I scratched it off, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, boy, that's the regifter dead giveaway. Tell me
Speaker 1: you gave that to I didn't, okay, but I was
Speaker 1: also too lazy to check the balance, so I just
Speaker 1: threw it back in the box like it probably has
Speaker 1: nothing on there.
Speaker 2: But but I'm also why do I take that Baba's gloset?
Speaker 1: I did get that guy out of rotation, But there
Speaker 1: was like this crumpl up visa card that was still
Speaker 1: in the packaging, so I was like it was for
Speaker 1: fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, twenty five.
Speaker 1: A kid, because I usually like, you know, twenty five
Speaker 1: or fifty like for the kid, like fifty max. And
Speaker 1: so I was just like, Joey, just take this on
Speaker 1: the card and then we put it in the thing.
Speaker 1: And then I just kind of in my mind was
Speaker 1: like the mom will hopefully forgive me for this really
Speaker 1: poor put together present, because it was that's poor, that's lazy.
Speaker 2: Well, if it.
Speaker 1: Was to twenty five dollars gift cards, I think it
Speaker 1: looks a little more intentional.
Speaker 2: It's your true Splitsville.
Speaker 1: It starts to make it look like but here's the issue.
Speaker 1: So the next day, I think I pulled Bathom bodywork
Speaker 1: splosion and you've had like sway pops.
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, here's some diet. I guess lash lash extension stuff.
Speaker 2: Great for eight year olds.
Speaker 1: So the next day she's like, you know, Sterling's birthday party,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, okay, great, We're going to go
Speaker 1: to Target after church, but like it has to be
Speaker 1: very timed out because you know, there's the jump place.
Speaker 1: And so we go to we go to church, we
Speaker 1: go to Jimmy John's and I'm like, all right, guys,
Speaker 1: we've got like five minutes in Target. All right, so
Speaker 1: we got to go in get your present. And I
Speaker 1: promised you, you know, since you guys have been like
Speaker 1: such good kids all weekend and everything, like you didn't
Speaker 1: get a toy last time, you can get it like
Speaker 1: one small toy this time. So because I don't let
Speaker 1: them do it each time, So five minutes, Alan's like
Speaker 1: great during this time, I'm gonna grab it because he's like,
Speaker 1: can I drop you on?
Speaker 2: He's like, do I do I have to go to
Speaker 2: the birthday party? I was like, yes, you do, welcome allan.
Speaker 1: No. I was like, no, you don't have to. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, but right now we're just kind
Speaker 1: of like down to like us then.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so he's like, all right, well'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna grab a coffee and so I was like, no problem. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we we run to the toy part because again,
Speaker 1: Jolie knows she doesn't want to be late. I don't
Speaker 1: like being late, and so we're trying to find a
Speaker 1: toy for Stirling. We know that he likes legos, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, she picked up something. I was like, oh no, honey,
Speaker 1: that's like only like twenty something. I was like, let's
Speaker 1: get him.
Speaker 2: You know. Maybe I was like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: And on the like ledge of this the aisleway, it
Speaker 1: was just like don da da da, and it's beautiful,
Speaker 1: and I was like, forty nine ninety nine, that's a steal.
Speaker 1: So I was like a Lego set, a Lego set
Speaker 1: like a Star Wars, like Big Box go ahead.
Speaker 4: I just see where this is going. Keep going.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Jolie, grab that one. Thought it was
Speaker 1: a little weird that it had one of those protector
Speaker 1: things on it, but but it said forty nine ninety nine.
Speaker 5: So side note real fast before you go anywhere with this.
Speaker 5: What was the age on this?
Speaker 2: And I don't want.
Speaker 4: It has a protector on it. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 4: it's pretty old.
Speaker 2: Put the kid's turn to gate. He likes legos.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know, I think it maybe said
Speaker 1: ten or something or I don't know. Level up, sterling.
Speaker 1: We're gonna need you to put this whole spaceship together.
Speaker 1: So we grab it again. I'm like, all right, we've got,
Speaker 1: you know, two minutes left. Let's grab a bag, let's
Speaker 1: grab a car, let's grab some tissue paper, because I'm
Speaker 1: not failing on this present.
Speaker 2: Like I just I won't fail on this one.
Speaker 1: So meanwhile, with a barista Alan, Alan is having a
Speaker 1: relaxing target trip, grabbing himself a hot cup of Joe.
Speaker 2: So I met the check out going.
Speaker 1: Like hey, he's.
Speaker 2: Like, there's my American fiance.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're engaged then, yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to keep saying it yeah the other day
Speaker 1: on the phone, just to be like my fiance. It
Speaker 1: was like it made me smile, yeah, yeah, yeah. So
Speaker 1: oh yes, he goes with me his missus. Still, I
Speaker 1: was like, let me in the hear it, len they
Speaker 1: hear it you his missus.
Speaker 2: This is cute.
Speaker 1: Yea, it's cute. So he calls me misses and I
Speaker 1: call him fancy. Anyways, back to the story. So we
Speaker 1: then allan over.
Speaker 2: So I'm like a rub my hair aisle three.
Speaker 1: So he's like, we're like, you know, getting his coffee whatever.
Speaker 1: So then we're checking out. I've got, you know, their toys.
Speaker 1: I had grabbed a few more things that we needed,
Speaker 1: like there are a couple of cereal boxes or whatever
Speaker 1: that you know you grab because the toy all is
Speaker 1: toy aisle is quite far from checkout, far far away,
Speaker 1: far far far far away. I just want to preface
Speaker 1: it this to make me sound.
Speaker 2: A little better.
Speaker 1: So when all the stuff was checked out, she goes
Speaker 1: the price. I can't remember exactly what the price was,
Speaker 1: but I was like, excuse me, like, you're total for
Speaker 1: the order, total.
Speaker 2: For the order.
Speaker 1: It was like three hundred and fifty dollars, and I
Speaker 1: was like, for what you know in my mind is
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking, and I.
Speaker 2: Target Bermuda Triangle. We all feel this way. How much
Speaker 2: were the Legos two hundred and fifty dollars? No, ma'am.
Speaker 1: I but at this moment, I'm sweating. There are two
Speaker 1: people behind me in line, maybe one with like they
Speaker 1: had like a guest.
Speaker 2: I guess I just saw two people. So this is
Speaker 2: a plus one for check out.
Speaker 4: It's not getting coffee, like you're a plus one.
Speaker 1: So I'm like sweating. I'm also embarrassed, like because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I obviously did not want to spend that much. I
Speaker 1: wanted to spend under fifty dollars. But then to send
Speaker 1: Jolie back to get a different presence going to take
Speaker 1: more time, and I know she's like stressed about being
Speaker 1: on time. I'm I want to get there on time too,
Speaker 1: because I also kind of wanted to leave a little early,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm like, let's get there early so
Speaker 1: we can leave because we had a party that night
Speaker 1: as well, and so.
Speaker 2: We have a four minute turnaround for us to go
Speaker 2: back to that toy aisle. You guys, I bought it.
Speaker 2: No may'amre. She did creamer. I did that kid got
Speaker 2: a really goo?
Speaker 4: Did you go up to that mom? And did you
Speaker 4: tell the mom? Sorry?
Speaker 1: No, because I felt then even I'd be even more embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Rolling in with her Chris kringled bag on her.
Speaker 5: This person is Jolie to the birthday party every year.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the Halloween House with the big
Speaker 1: candy candy, you know, like Jolie and Jase are on
Speaker 1: everybody's birthday list in the Try County area.
Speaker 2: Now, well it's not gonna happen again, so.
Speaker 4: You didn't just walk it.
Speaker 2: I would have walked it back with both kids. My
Speaker 2: barista fiance.
Speaker 5: Is like, hey, Scottish man, I need you to run
Speaker 5: and take this and.
Speaker 4: Get another one. That's not with my kids. Happens to
Speaker 4: me all the time.
Speaker 1: I can send Jolian Jason's Scottish Man right, but he
Speaker 1: was still at like he was still foaming his oat milk.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I know is the slowest Starbucks on the face of
Speaker 1: the planet inside of that target. So I don't have
Speaker 1: help right to say go and I can't like so that.
Speaker 2: That, but you can pause transaction. Well, see I didn't
Speaker 2: know that. I didn't.
Speaker 1: They can print a little wow, they can print a
Speaker 1: little slip and it has like a little barcode at
Speaker 1: the bottom. So all the items you have already rang up,
Speaker 1: they delete the one that you're taking back and they
Speaker 1: just have it so they don't have to like rebag
Speaker 1: and redo.
Speaker 2: I'll see that part would make me nervous.
Speaker 1: You guys need to do it a lot of I
Speaker 1: mean this is like get I get nervous in those moments.
Speaker 1: Like I'm very i don't like to spend a lot
Speaker 1: of money. I'm like even all on another day was
Speaker 1: like you're kind of cheap with things, but then you're
Speaker 1: you know, you'll you'll spend somewhere else, like with this area.
Speaker 1: Like I would never spend that much on a birthday
Speaker 1: present for a child that's in my daughter's class.
Speaker 2: That on my husband for his birthday. No, me neither.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I like to give like you were good
Speaker 2: at Yeah, you're you're a baller.
Speaker 1: But around like Mile in Chicago and I was like
Speaker 1: trying on his par of jeans and I was like,
Speaker 1: I love these, but I need a minute because they
Speaker 1: were like an expensive pair of jeans. Remember, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I really love them, but I also just
Speaker 1: need a minute and I'll think about it.
Speaker 2: You're like, I was like, I'll circle back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then I have her husband, you know, taking down
Speaker 1: the place set, and I'm hacking my own house because
Speaker 1: I don't want to pay for movers. So it's like
Speaker 1: I have like you because I'm like it's too expensive.
Speaker 2: Well, I know because I own the jeans now because
Speaker 2: then you bought them for me.
Speaker 4: And I owned several things from that store as well.
Speaker 2: She also has more designer purses than I do, all.
Speaker 4: From Jana and anytime I will buy them for me.
Speaker 5: Anytime someone compliments me, I like, I cannot just say
Speaker 5: thank you.
Speaker 4: I'm like, thank you, Jana got it for me.
Speaker 2: My friend Gians do it.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: When people are like those jeans are really cute, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know Jana Gum from the best Friend jeans and
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm buying Like people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's she's buying her friends.
Speaker 2: But no, I just like I You're like, you called
Speaker 2: it my wind down bonus or something cute. You were like,
Speaker 2: you guys deserve it. It's fun. We're in Chicago and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Were so generous with that stuff, and you were so
Speaker 5: great with money, but I'm also very stingy.
Speaker 4: You were very stingy at times, and.
Speaker 1: I accutely and my jeans are kind of on the
Speaker 1: same price points.
Speaker 5: Like presence, really shopping you don't even know you don't
Speaker 5: spend much. Yeah, I mean maybe wine, Yeah, but you
Speaker 5: really don't.
Speaker 4: Like, Oh, we all appreciate the extensive wine.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I would not spend like for movers
Speaker 1: because I'm like, that's like three grand movers at all. No,
Speaker 1: I already have a storage unit and we're going to
Speaker 1: start moving boxes in because I'm like Alan, and I.
Speaker 4: Like, you don't get movers at all.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. What about I'm selling those things?
Speaker 2: Can I know what you're selling?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 2: Say yeah, I'm selling.
Speaker 1: A lot actually okay, because I just like I'm ause,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't, I don't you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So it's gone. This couch is gone.
Speaker 1: Pam is taking this couch, Okay, I don't like the
Speaker 1: pam head first tips.
Speaker 2: We need to do. This is like an estate.
Speaker 1: So I'm only taking my couch, my two chairs, my
Speaker 1: my bed, and then like two buffets, so like maybe
Speaker 1: I'll hire two eyes, like with a truck, but like
Speaker 1: not like an actual move.
Speaker 2: They're so expensive, No, they are.
Speaker 4: I just cannot imagine moving.
Speaker 1: And I've been doing it very like so like every
Speaker 1: day I do a closet or I do like you know,
Speaker 1: so I love like I love getting rid of stuff.
Speaker 1: I love packing like it's my favorite thing.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're going shopping later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in here right, And a lot of times actually
Speaker 1: attached to that chair next to you. Oh, those are
Speaker 1: just getting I was gonna put the mountain stay free.
Speaker 2: Oh we're gonna need to talk Gramer. It's got to funny.
Speaker 2: You gotta wash it. Let's men. Fine, Yeah, there's a
Speaker 2: whole set of those.
Speaker 1: There are six, and I was just gonna be like,
Speaker 1: whoever wants some's gonna put them out fronting. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: actually really great chairs anyways.
Speaker 2: Okay, so moving no no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: But I'm not But I'm just saying like, but it's
Speaker 1: like there, I get it. There are certain things where
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, manual labor stuff I actually like
Speaker 1: to do myself because I'm like, well I can do
Speaker 1: that myself. Why would I pay somebody is that our
Speaker 1: midwestern like we saw like seeing Nick and Alan tear
Speaker 1: down that play center together and then sit in you know,
Speaker 1: the Toys and Knicks truck, like it was so cute
Speaker 1: watching them.
Speaker 4: Wait, I have a question. Is my husband moving you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, he just said he would do the playhouse.
Speaker 5: I know he loves that shit. I mean, he's always
Speaker 5: here to help. I just can't put it on my calendar,
Speaker 5: so I know when I'm not going to have him
Speaker 5: for a couple of days, he would offer.
Speaker 1: He's been very gracious helping with the you know, the
Speaker 1: cell and the move of the house, which I can't
Speaker 1: say yet because I'm still like it's still a week
Speaker 1: away from play Yeah, and I don't supersticious. Yeah. So anyways,
Speaker 1: just for the record, I'm going back to the toy
Speaker 1: department and I'm returning that toy.
Speaker 2: There's no way I bought that. Yeah, it's it's being
Speaker 2: played with right now. Yeah. I mean it's going to
Speaker 2: take him a couple of years, but it's going too
Speaker 2: plus Yep.
Speaker 1: Anyways, we're gonna take a break and then we've got
Speaker 1: a second announcement that we're about to drop on the
Speaker 1: Today's Show. All right, guys. So you guys already know
Speaker 1: because you guys have been on the journey with me.
Speaker 1: So my ex and I were supposed to we got
Speaker 1: a second book deal after the Good Fight, and it
Speaker 1: was going to be about trust.
Speaker 2: I remember, scratch that too soon. So when.
Speaker 1: We got you know, divorced, I had called the editor
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, I know we were authors together,
Speaker 1: but is there a world where I could potentially write
Speaker 1: a book? But I also was very nervous about it
Speaker 1: because during our book process, like I will say, like
Speaker 1: my ex was a fantastic writer. He's a really he was.
Speaker 1: I write how I speak a lot of times. I've
Speaker 1: gotten better through this process. But I think the things
Speaker 1: that I heard when we were writing that book is
Speaker 1: that like he was the writer and I was just
Speaker 1: the the ones coming with the you know, I still
Speaker 1: wrote my parts. But that's interesting to me, to be honest,
Speaker 1: what would part that.
Speaker 2: He's the writer?
Speaker 1: He was? He wrote most of that book. Now I
Speaker 1: wrote all the parts that say Jana was definitely me
Speaker 1: that together we voice was him. Wow, Like he wrote
Speaker 1: the majority of the book. And I think hearing like
Speaker 1: you know that he was the writer. It's just anytime,
Speaker 1: like you know, like it just made me feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not capable of than writing a book, right right,
Speaker 1: But something in it was like I had to prove
Speaker 1: to myself that I am a writer and that I
Speaker 1: can write. And so I called my editor of our
Speaker 1: last book and I was just like, is there a
Speaker 1: world where I could have a book? And I said,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to fight for not a ghostwriter. It's
Speaker 1: really important to me to not have a ghostwriter because
Speaker 1: of the things that, like my exit said during the
Speaker 1: writing process, so like, I want to have the words
Speaker 1: on paper. I really admire this piece because there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of people in your shoes that would fight
Speaker 1: to not have that right.
Speaker 2: That's a really big deal.
Speaker 1: And so at the time she said no, well she's
Speaker 1: saying no, I take the back.
Speaker 2: I love Sydney.
Speaker 1: She said, let's wait until you heal a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And I was like fine, fair. So I started writing
Speaker 1: things down, kind of a diary in a way with things,
Speaker 1: and I sent it to her and I was just like,
Speaker 1: here's some things I've been writing, and she was wrote back,
Speaker 1: just wow, She's like, let's discuss next week. And she
Speaker 1: goes you know, I've really She's like, this is all
Speaker 1: great stuff, there's definitely something here, but a piece of
Speaker 1: me thinks that maybe we should wait until you find
Speaker 1: love again and you're in an I was like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stop you right there. I do not want to
Speaker 1: be in a relationship when I'm writing this book, like
Speaker 1: found my one love, I don't want it to be
Speaker 1: about a boy because everything has always been My happiness
Speaker 1: has always been dependent on a man, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to be like.
Speaker 2: I found love. I'm happy and this is now a
Speaker 2: book about that.
Speaker 1: Like I was, like, it can I don't even want
Speaker 1: to mention like new love because I have to love
Speaker 1: myself right. So for the next so probably God, when
Speaker 1: do we start?
Speaker 2: I have to look back?
Speaker 1: But here is my book the next chapter, making peace
Speaker 1: with hard memories, finding hope all around us, and clearing
Speaker 1: space for good things to come. This is the year
Speaker 1: diary of when I filed, the day that I found
Speaker 1: out some stuff, and the year coping with grief and
Speaker 1: the ups and downs of your grieving and the anger
Speaker 1: and the missteps that I took, and the things that
Speaker 1: I wish I would have done differently, and just everything
Speaker 1: that I learned in that year post filing for divorce. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I also a lot of pages of work and like healing,
Speaker 1: I mean, it has to feel good to have it
Speaker 1: all bound up into one place of just like I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a really this is a whole journey documented from
Speaker 1: a place that a lot of people are in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I hope to go too. Well. I think there's
Speaker 1: something to be said to like, so we go back
Speaker 1: into things like I share a fight that Catherine and
Speaker 1: I had way, I mean, when I was i'd broken
Speaker 1: up with when Brantley got me. You know, we talk
Speaker 1: about that, We talk about you and I hiding under
Speaker 1: a table in Los Angeles. So I go back and
Speaker 1: tell stories because I think sharing those stories help under
Speaker 1: like help the reader understand like, Okay, what my like
Speaker 1: why I've done certain things, and like how it's led
Speaker 1: to like this, but also like the things that like
Speaker 1: in me deep rooted that I needed to like change
Speaker 1: to really get to the other side to have my
Speaker 1: next chapter. So like, so proud, ye, thank you. I
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. It's like it was
Speaker 1: supposed to come out in September. We pushed it and
Speaker 1: I'm just like I just want it out because I've
Speaker 1: when I read it now, so I've made a bunch
Speaker 1: of passes on the book. So in the beginning it
Speaker 1: was very much like it was kind of angry, if
Speaker 1: I'm be honest, It's like I was still angry, and
Speaker 1: I can see now where she meant like, you need
Speaker 1: some time because now I've done like so many passes
Speaker 1: on it that it's so great to see, like, actually,
Speaker 1: how you heal more because now I'm two and a
Speaker 1: half years removed from being in this place, So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I have them a little bit more perspective,
Speaker 1: which I know I'll have way more then. But like
Speaker 1: you know, for anyone that's going through a divorce or
Speaker 1: you know, like how did I know or.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's just there's a lot of things in there. I
Speaker 1: think people will can relate to whether they're going through
Speaker 1: divorce or not.
Speaker 2: But it's just a.
Speaker 1: It's what I would have loved to have read to
Speaker 1: not Okay, this is all normal feelings and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to feel great the first month, but I might
Speaker 1: be better in the end.
Speaker 5: I really think I was, actually well, I had started
Speaker 5: reading it when you first started and then I stopped.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm gonna wait, and that's interesting. You
Speaker 5: were a lot more angry than than now. But I'm
Speaker 5: not done yet. But I started reading it yesterday in
Speaker 5: the hair salon while I was getting my hair blown
Speaker 5: out crying in the chair.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, this is embarrassing. Catherine just has a lot
Speaker 2: of access. Well, yeah, she's making ring boxes. She will.
Speaker 4: Obviously I would have the book before you would.
Speaker 5: It's I'm just kidding, yeah, but I would not even
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: But what I was going to say, there's three of
Speaker 2: us on a couch, I know.
Speaker 5: But what I was going to say was the back
Speaker 5: stories are what are so powerful in this book of
Speaker 5: really explaining a lot of things about you, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. Like that's where I think it doesn't
Speaker 5: have to just be about a divorce necessarily. I think
Speaker 5: it can definitely, like so many people can benefit from
Speaker 5: this book, but it just it just explained you so well.
Speaker 5: And it's like even though some of those backstories they're
Speaker 5: hard to read. I mean, it's hard for me to
Speaker 5: even read some of it, you know, but it's also
Speaker 5: so like uplifting at the same time. I don't know,
Speaker 5: it's really hard to explain. But I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 2: Thank you well you the framework you think.
Speaker 1: Thanks And I also want to be like, this is
Speaker 1: not like a I'm oh my god, she won't shut
Speaker 1: up about the mic stuff has This book is not
Speaker 1: about Mike. There are a few stories and about you
Speaker 1: know how I like, well, a, you know what, actually
Speaker 1: the final moment and then you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: a story before that's just like how did I not
Speaker 1: see it was coming?
Speaker 2: And kind of like that.
Speaker 1: But like, the book is not like the book is
Speaker 1: about me, like you said, my past, the things that
Speaker 1: I've had to work on, the things that like I
Speaker 1: needed to open my eyes too, And that's something where
Speaker 1: I really I'm proud of how it changed because at
Speaker 1: first I was angry and I was it was more
Speaker 1: about like art, but I was like, I don't want
Speaker 1: it to be about him, like because it's not. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's not about him. It's
Speaker 1: about me. It's about my journey. It's about you know.
Speaker 1: And it's like I also want to protect my kids too,
Speaker 1: so I took a lot of stuff out that I'm
Speaker 1: like that doesn't really need to be there anymore. And
Speaker 1: like we're okay, we privately handled that, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: so it's like I've had to I had to tell
Speaker 1: them obviously that I had a book coming out, and
Speaker 1: you know, that was a really tough conversation. But I
Speaker 1: told him it was like I think you'll be like
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to be like I was like,
Speaker 1: you deserve to have like a new and he even said,
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I'd love to maybe come
Speaker 1: on one day and like talk and he's like, let
Speaker 1: you let me think about it. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: let's just yeah, the mean way we can discuss like
Speaker 1: you know when like later this year or something. And
Speaker 1: because again, like I kept saying, like the book is
Speaker 1: not about Yes, there's some stories and some experiences, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not like it all reflects anytime I
Speaker 1: say anything about you or about you whatever. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I bet he felt suffocated.
Speaker 2: I bet. Like so I'm like, I.
Speaker 1: The ownership is just the biggest piece of this. So
Speaker 1: that's where I'm just like I want people to know
Speaker 1: that they're not coming for like yeah, fine, you'll find
Speaker 1: out what happened at the end of our marriage, but
Speaker 1: like you know you guys already know you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 4: Like like like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, it's not as so it's like
Speaker 1: it's truly like my journey, and you know, some things
Speaker 1: that were really hard to walk through and some things
Speaker 1: that I was like I wish I would have done
Speaker 1: better on, and so I'm really excited about it and
Speaker 1: I could not have. And there's a chapter in there
Speaker 1: two where and I did some like massive work on site.
Speaker 1: I talk about that and like there's no piece of
Speaker 1: that journey could have been done without you, guys. So
Speaker 1: I just love you guys, and I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2: Oh we love you too.
Speaker 1: Just you know that I appreciate everything. And I'm just
Speaker 1: really proud of you. Thank you, like even just the
Speaker 1: I mean all of it. And I have said that
Speaker 1: a million times, we both have, but I mean, Kat
Speaker 1: and I even have had conversations privately about you and
Speaker 1: just the growth, like.
Speaker 2: Just the differences. Thanks.
Speaker 1: Well, you can read the next chapter October twenty four,
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, so you can pre order. I'm doing signing
Speaker 1: with it's all like on the stories today I'll be
Speaker 1: posting a bunch about it. But I can't wait for
Speaker 1: you guys to read it. It's been a book of
Speaker 1: love and labor. So love and labor, love, labor of love, labor,
Speaker 1: it's a labor of love. Better you know, leave it
Speaker 1: to me tovest those things up.
Speaker 4: She's a great writer.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, what's something that I actually just I
Speaker 1: got to have one final pass again, and so I
Speaker 1: put some things in and something there was a quote
Speaker 1: that I heard actually at church, and I put it in,
Speaker 1: but you grip the Titus before you let go mm.
Speaker 2: And that one, Wow, I'm gonna need a minute with
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: And so that I just put that in to start
Speaker 1: off the first chapter. But I was just like, because
Speaker 1: it's so true.
Speaker 2: Wow, good, Wow, all right, guys, pay thank you.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys love it. Pre order it so
Speaker 1: you can get it an assigned one. And that was
Speaker 1: that's today's show, y'all.
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