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Speaker 1: guy from the MMQB dot THEMMQB dot com. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: coming to the plate. He's gonna knock it out. We

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Speaker 1: got our man Albert Breer joining us. Hey, b I

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Speaker 1: we we hear that your uh your jet setting while

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Speaker 1: while doing the show man like no days off?

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah yeah, so I'm in terras right now. Nice,

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Speaker 4: it's not it's not morning here.

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Speaker 5: But uh, you know, if we have any phone issues

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's valid, it is valid. Will let you, will

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Speaker 1: let you this time?

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Speaker 2: So Celine Dion's returning to stage. Are you going to

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Speaker 2: see Celene Deon while you're in Paris?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna try to do well. I'm gonna try

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Speaker 4: to do things that can't do in the US.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 5: But but I'm sure she'll put on a.

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Speaker 6: Hell of a show over here. If she I didn't

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Speaker 4: So so yeah, I'm sure she'll put on a hell

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Speaker 1: Speaking of a hell of a show, uh, pooka naku

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Speaker 1: We we had the conversation about him earlier. What how

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Speaker 1: should we be viewing this scenario?

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, where there's smoke, there's fire. And listen,

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Speaker 1: from all accounts I've gotten, he seems like he's a

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Speaker 1: know that that when the influence is there, when when

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Speaker 1: you're not in your right mind, but you're in the

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Speaker 1: wrong mind, Uh, things can happen. Now, whether they happened

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Speaker 1: have information wise on the Pooka Nakula situation?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean I think you know, and I

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Speaker 4: and you know, like I like, it's it's a fine

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Speaker 6: I mean we saw what JSN got.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the first thing I think everybody thinks,

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Speaker 6: And you know the next one?

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Speaker 4: You know, logically when you look at the receivers who

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Speaker 4: Legitimately hundreds of millions of dollars on the line for

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Speaker 4: And you know, if if the rams are saying to

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Speaker 5: Take this into my own hands now. So I'd applaud

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Speaker 6: There that you know, I need to take care of

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Speaker 5: Not to and I do know, you know, there are

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Speaker 6: You know, now now he's just got to kind of.

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Speaker 4: Find a way to be that person on a more

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Speaker 2: Plex uh uh yeah, So uh yeah, Pooka is uh

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Speaker 2: best because he's a superstar in this league, no doubt. Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, nobody saw him coming into this league after

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Speaker 2: Uh He's he's a great player and from what I've heard,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I agree with that, Like I said,

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Speaker 4: like I think that that's sort of where the RAMS

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Speaker 6: In this case it's you.

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Speaker 4: Know, like they wanted to they want to take care

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Speaker 6: And I think that that's what Poop is trying to

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think he has to provide hope,

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Speaker 6: Right now, it's not so.

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Speaker 4: Much like what the first four weeks looked like. The

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Speaker 6: It's it's are you more than the wins and losses?

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Speaker 4: And not that they aren't important, because that's you know,

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Speaker 5: But more than that, it's, you know, is there can

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Speaker 4: Owner see a plan that being executed? And you know,

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Speaker 4: they traded Quinn Williams, they traded Sauce Gardner, they got

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Speaker 6: Next year they have.

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Speaker 4: Four of the top forty four picks this year. Can

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Speaker 6: Their roster starting to play well? Can you see Geno

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Speaker 5: So to me, you know, the whole, the whole thing,

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Speaker 4: To be through the course of this year about about

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Speaker 4: Membo the level the right tackle of the Jets from Missouri,

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Speaker 4: you can see a tangible difference. Tackle is now a strength.

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Speaker 4: With the two young guys they have with Membu and Olufashana,

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Speaker 4: like you know, ag, it's not just about wins and losses,

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Speaker 4: it's about showing that you're developing.

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Speaker 6: The talent and the roster so the organization.

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Speaker 4: Trusts you to execute with those three first round picks

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Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about developing the roster. When you

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Speaker 1: Talking to senior NFL reporter and lead content strategists for

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Speaker 1: the MMQB Albert Breer, Aybe, there's rumors and then I

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Speaker 1: That would be an interesting plot twist if this were true.

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Speaker 1: Can you shed any light on it? Aaron Rodgers going

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Speaker 4: I think Pittsburgh would be My personal feeling is Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: And I think, you know, like I think the reason why.

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Speaker 6: Three or four years, Aaron sort of.

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Speaker 6: And you know, for years and years and years I.

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Speaker 4: To tell you guys this, but I think he'd been

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Speaker 6: Player, right like, by having all the interests.

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Speaker 4: Off the field, of being very open about talking about

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Speaker 4: all those different things. You know, there had been this

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Speaker 4: And I remember in this conversation with him a couple

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Speaker 6: And so his last year in New.

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Speaker 4: Achilles was I want to I want to just be

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Speaker 5: Out of what I have left as a football player.

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Speaker 6: I personally think it's Pittsburgh or Boss for him.

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Speaker 1: That that was an April fool's joke.

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Speaker 5: I thought that though, and I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Well, the problem is the problem is I'm over here,

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Speaker 4: Or I think so, yeah, Like again, like I just

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Speaker 4: And I think that that's part of what like helped

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Speaker 2: All the other stuff you got the last one, plex, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh still has have to move forward regardless. But how

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say forever, but I do think

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Speaker 6: Level where they're at, and and the.

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Speaker 4: In contact with them for three months. He was talking

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Speaker 6: You know, and so.

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Speaker 6: For one more year. They don't have a final answer on.

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Speaker 4: It yet, but you know, I think there's you know,

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Speaker 4: There's no nothing, nothing underhanded here or anything like that,

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Speaker 6: No, maybe not, But you know, with an offense.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's really an offense that's built for a

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Speaker 6: And so even if it's not Aaron Rodgers, there is

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins sitting out there who'd be going into a

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Speaker 6: Could, but at the same but would be able to.

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Speaker 4: Fit in with a with a very veteran group there

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Speaker 1: what's going on with your was going to hold with

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Speaker 1: your boy? Tiger Woods then flipped over. He's flipped over

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Speaker 1: another car, So it's another car, he adds, another wrecked

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Speaker 1: whip vehicle to his resume. I mean, he's he's adding

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Speaker 1: him like he was adding majors.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Like, what the biggest question out there is is Tiger

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Speaker 1: Woods in need of helping out? He took a breathalyzer

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Speaker 1: or I think he took a break whatever test it was,

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Speaker 1: it came up zero point zero zero, So it didn't

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Speaker 1: come back that he was intoxicated. But clearly they said

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Speaker 1: by accounts given on the scene, is that you know

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Speaker 1: he he crawled out. He seemed to be out of it.

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Speaker 1: We'll say he did. He didn't seem to be all

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Speaker 1: the way there. What's going on with Tiger Woods?

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Speaker 6: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Should we be really concerned? Does he need do you

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Speaker 1: believe that he needs help?

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Speaker 2: Man? This is an incident where you know, I guess

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Speaker 2: he was speeding through this thirty mile and now was

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Speaker 2: zon trying to trying to pass a truck, a pressure

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Speaker 2: washer that had a trailer trying to get out of

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Speaker 2: the way at the last second, and we saw the

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Speaker 2: truck on the driver's side. He crawsed off the passenger side.

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Speaker 2: But you know, luckily for him, nobody was injured. He

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Speaker 2: wasn't hurt or anybody else. But you know, it seems

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Speaker 2: like the people around him his circle are saying that,

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Speaker 2: you know, Tiger is like he's a very private person.

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Speaker 2: And and and the first thing that everybody says, including myself, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, Tiger's a billionaire. You know, why doesn't he

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Speaker 2: have a driver?

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a very good question.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And and what I'm hearing is that, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's a private person. He doesn't want anybody to basically

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Speaker 2: know what he's doing, where he's going, and he wants

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Speaker 2: to keep that part of his life private. But when

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Speaker 2: these things occur, it comes to the forefront and and

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Speaker 2: it's in the public.

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Speaker 1: It ain't private, it's.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's no longer private. And that's the thing that

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Speaker 2: that that you know, kind of sucks about being an athlete.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to live basically a normal life as he

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Speaker 2: possibly plan but at the end of the day, he's

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Speaker 2: Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's it's just unfortunate that it seems like all his

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Speaker 2: incidents involved cars, and uh, you know, some people are saying,

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Speaker 2: and his neighbors are saying that he drives down the

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Speaker 2: street like a bat out of hell. He comes up

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Speaker 2: and down the street flying and uh, you know, somebody's

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Speaker 2: going to get hurt, so there has to where there's

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Speaker 2: smoke that fire. But I just, you know, I believe

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Speaker 2: that it's one unfortunate another unfortunate incident. But just like

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Speaker 2: you said, but he knew what he was under the

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Speaker 2: influence because he was charged.

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Speaker 1: With the d U Y it wasn't it was it was.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't a d w I, but he was

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Speaker 2: under the influence of All we can do is really

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Speaker 2: speculate at this point because he has refused a urine test,

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Speaker 2: so we would never know what specific drug or prescription

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Speaker 2: or prescription medication that he's under because everybody's just surmised

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Speaker 2: that we don't know, and everybody's.

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Speaker 1: Putting it on the pain right like everybody, like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that are I don't want to call

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Speaker 1: him apologists, but the reports it's like, all right, he's

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Speaker 1: probably taking pain mads to deal with what he's dealing with.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, at a glance, dude is yoked up.

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Speaker 1: He's more yoked up now than he ever has been.

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Speaker 1: So listen, you don't get as big as he's gotten

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Speaker 1: at this point in his life if you don't have

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Speaker 1: some type of assistance that's that's a part of it. Now.

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Speaker 1: Granted I don't think that that's what would lead to

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Speaker 1: you being under the influence what's gonna get you yoked up?

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Speaker 1: But clearly he's he's touching substances for his body for

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Speaker 1: performance purposes. I don't know for pain. I would assume

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Speaker 1: he's you know, obviously dealt with the leg injury and

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Speaker 1: the one accident that he had, you know, he's dealing

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Speaker 1: with with other other physical issues that have been well

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Speaker 1: document it during his time walking walking the courses. Where

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Speaker 1: do we go from here with Tiger Woods?

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Speaker 6: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Like what a dude? When a dude is as talented

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Speaker 1: and as part of big a part of history sports

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Speaker 1: history as Tiger Woods is, I almost feel like we

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Speaker 1: tend to give these guys grace. We tend to give

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Speaker 1: them passes on things that they're they do and what happens,

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Speaker 1: But at some point the like isn't enough enough. Like

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Speaker 1: again you said you mentioned it, take a ride, Like

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Speaker 1: get a ride if you're going to if you're going

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Speaker 1: to use I'm private and I don't want people knowing

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Speaker 1: where I'm going and what I'm doing. If you're going

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Speaker 1: to use that as an excuse then you got to

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Speaker 1: be more responsible with how you're moving around. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: wasn't intoxicated. Maybe maybe it was just a simple case

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Speaker 1: of he thought he could get around the vehicle, another

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Speaker 1: vehicle gets in the way or whatever it is, and

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Speaker 1: he ends up wrecking. It could potentially be that. But

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Speaker 1: because he has a track record of come on, he's

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Speaker 1: got a track record of doing this, Uh, I don't

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Speaker 1: think he gets the benefit of the doubt of it

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Speaker 1: just being simply put, he found himself in an accident

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Speaker 1: because there was what maybe a lack of judgment he

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Speaker 1: tried to zip around. I don't know if it was.

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Speaker 1: I know it was a narrow street that was reported.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the type of street. There

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Speaker 1: are streets where you can get over on traffic and

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Speaker 1: get past the vehicle and get back over. That's two

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Speaker 1: way traffic.

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Speaker 2: This road had no shoulders on it. It was just

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Speaker 2: a two way, two lane road.

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Speaker 1: Did it have But were you able to pass? Was

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Speaker 1: it a passing zone? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't believe so, because if you

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Speaker 2: look at the video, he's traveling in the right lane

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Speaker 2: and the left lane is coming the other way. And

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Speaker 2: the houses are on the left side, so he was

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Speaker 2: going into another lane pass.

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Speaker 1: So he went to the other side of the street. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so was irresponsible what he was doing, absolutely, And that's

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Speaker 1: what that was what I was kind of seeking here

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Speaker 1: is I didn't see the video. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: for me again, if your lifestyle consist of you driving

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Speaker 1: in an aggressive manner, then you do put yourself at

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Speaker 1: risk of having these type of situations take place. And

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Speaker 1: if you're Tiger Woods, you gotta understand how much is

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Speaker 1: at stake here every single time, Like for what is

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Speaker 1: worth you got to think about every single time you're

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Speaker 1: going to go on the other side of a road

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Speaker 1: to go around a vehicle, like you got to think

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Speaker 1: about everything a little bit more than other people because

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Speaker 1: that's the price that comes with you being who you are.

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Speaker 1: Because on the other side of this, this is what

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Speaker 1: you gotta deal with. The whole entire sports community talking

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Speaker 1: about does Tiger Woods have a problem, Does he have

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Speaker 1: a problem? Plex?

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Speaker 2: Uh, I believe so that's just me. You know, after

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Speaker 2: everything that has you know, happened to him two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one, with every I mean everybody was afraid that

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Speaker 2: you know, is he alive? Or is he hurt? Is

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Speaker 2: he going to play golf again? And he rebounded from

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Speaker 2: that and to have this incident is just kind of

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Speaker 2: it's a little somber because he was basically back. He

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Speaker 2: was on the way back up, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: building his bad body back up and all of those

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Speaker 2: kinds of things. But it is it is eye opening.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: His friends are saying, you fifty years old, start acting

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Speaker 2: like it, and I believe that, you know it is.

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Speaker 2: He's still learning from his mistakes, and.

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Speaker 1: We're all still learning from our mistakes. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: flipping cars over and stuff, Yeah, come on, man, Like.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if it was a zookie side kicking and I

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Speaker 2: was like, okay.

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Speaker 1: They was flipping them sidekicks them samuraized they were flipping

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Speaker 1: them joints.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I know some very wealthy people, man,

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Speaker 2: and they don't drive. They have drivers. And number one

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Speaker 2: is because of the liability, sure, and number two because

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Speaker 2: of this, like you said, the responsibility that it comes with.

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Speaker 2: And those are the main two things that I don't

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Speaker 2: think he really understands. We want to be normal as possible,

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Speaker 2: we do as athletes, but when you're a guy of

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Speaker 2: tiger Wood, the magnitude of who he is a person,

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Speaker 2: and he what he has meant to all of us.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and the game of golf, transcending a game,

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Speaker 2: and you just keep having these lulls of judgment.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to ask you this, go ahead, Well,

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Speaker 1: I feel where you're going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Does this impact his legacy? Does the chitanery, as my

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Speaker 1: man Chad Dukes would say, does this does this begin

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Speaker 1: to erode? Does this begin to impact what Tiger Woods

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Speaker 1: has meant to the game of golf into the world

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Speaker 1: of sports.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe on the golf course. No, I don't

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Speaker 2: believe that this incident has tarnished anything that he has

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Speaker 2: been able to accomplish on a golf course throughout his career. Okay,

665
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Speaker 2: maybe outside of the outside of the golf course, yes,

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Speaker 2: because you know, going back to two thousand and eight nine,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you just started seeing all of these strange

668
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Speaker 2: behaviors of Tiger Woods, and nobody knew about it until

669
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Speaker 2: it came to the forefront. Yeah, And so I don't

670
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Speaker 2: think it tarnashes his legacy as far as golf is concerned.

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Speaker 2: But now that you're fifty years old and these things

672
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Speaker 2: are still occurrent still happening, and this is nothing to

673
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Speaker 2: sneeze at. I mean, somebody could be seriously hurt or

674
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Speaker 2: die because of his actions and the decisions that he's making.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about it because he walked away from it

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Speaker 2: and nobody was injured, so let's not lose sight of

677
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: that either. But moving forward, for him, he's going to

678
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Speaker 2: have to just you know, make some better decisions moving forward,

679
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Speaker 2: because I don't believe that he can survive or come

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Speaker 2: back from another incident of this magnitude.

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Speaker 1: I look at it as for much as he has

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Speaker 1: represented in the way that he has represented it, in

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Speaker 1: the category that he has been able to accomplish it in.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there are stories that are connected to

685
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Speaker 1: golfers and obviously having some issues off of off of

686
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Speaker 1: the course, It's not unique to Tiger Woods. What is unique, however,

687
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Speaker 1: is what Tiger Woods has represented, not only in terms

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Speaker 1: of accomplishment, but culturally speaking. I mean, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: somebody who bridged the gap as it applied to obvious,

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Speaker 1: obvious discussion points and obvious uh you know circles. It

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Speaker 1: just makes you wonder, you know, how how do you

692
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Speaker 1: find yourself in the type of situations where you know

693
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Speaker 1: there can be valid attacks on your character. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. We all have moments where we make mistakes,

695
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Speaker 1: lapses and judgment. None of us are are void of

696
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Speaker 1: of that, but like you said, some things I feel

697
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: like are are avoidable. And after after you had one

698
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Speaker 1: scenario playout, okay, like make the proper adjustments you should

699
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: because you're such an important figure, it happens again. It's

700
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Speaker 1: like kind of like like you gotta do better, you

701
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: got you gotta do better. And two times seems to

702
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: be kind of one too many honestly to be on

703
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: the mistake side of something like this. And then it

704
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Speaker 1: also it leads to when when another incident takes place,

705
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Speaker 1: it just makes you wonder what else is going on?

706
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Speaker 1: What else is happening that isn't getting reported, That doesn't

707
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Speaker 1: make it too you know to CNN or to Fox

708
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. What else is happening in Tiger Woods? Is

709
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Speaker 1: like because it seems like he lives like a toxic

710
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Speaker 1: type of life style. And and then it makes you wonder.

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Speaker 1: It opens up the doors to having conversations about what

712
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Speaker 1: that may be. Then you start focusing it on other things,

713
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Speaker 1: like what is Dad used to like, Hey, you know

714
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Speaker 1: it's Pops was a roller something like, So now he's

715
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Speaker 1: going to get scrutiny and criticism on his father, like

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Speaker 1: his family. How does that impact his kid? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just to me, I feel like, when you play

718
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Speaker 1: this type of game, you're playing a game to lose,

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Speaker 1: and that's not what we've.

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Speaker 2: Come to know, not the case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that's what we come to recognize

722
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: from Tiger Woods. We've always seen him as a winner,

723
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Speaker 1: and it just seems like the things behind the scenes

724
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Speaker 1: show you that, you know, there's something else that is

725
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Speaker 1: there other than a stand up, you know, do it

726
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Speaker 1: the right way type of person. I don't know, man,

727
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Speaker 1: But I don't know how this ends.

728
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Speaker 2: And last was not least man. I did not know

729
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Speaker 2: Tiger's first name was Eldrick.

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Speaker 1: I did not know that.

731
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Speaker 2: I did not know that until this incident happened.

732
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Speaker 1: I thought it was his real name.

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Speaker 2: Me soo, his name is Eldrick. You know what his

734
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Speaker 2: middle taunt till Tea Woods. I did not know that

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Speaker 2: his first name was Eldrick. I learned something. I learned

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Speaker 2: something new this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're gaming and you see Eldrick as a

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Speaker 1: give Eldrick a shout out man, give him a well

752
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Speaker 1: wish man. Make sure you let him know you love

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Speaker 1: him and you care about him. Coming up next, Eldrick

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Speaker 1: never heard of it? Would you date him? Would you

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Speaker 1: date an Eldrick? I don't think so. No, Maybe an elder,

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Speaker 1: but not an elder sounds like an older name, like

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Speaker 1: from the old time. I had no idea. If you're

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Speaker 1: right about this, that is already.

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Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 1: He's right, No, he's right. I can verify. What's his

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Speaker 1: middle name?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: Do we have his middle name? What do you put

764
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Speaker 1: after Eldrick? What is it?

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Speaker 2: His middle name is taunt?

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Speaker 1: T o n t oh. That came from mama. It

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Speaker 1: has to be from mama, right, I would assume did

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Speaker 1: you say yeah? What did you say? Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: all right, all right, but yes I did taunt Huh

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Speaker 1: Eldrick Taunt Woods. I see it right here in plax guy.

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Speaker 1: And we know he's a freak. So Eldrick is a

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Speaker 1: freaky name, and definitely if you mess with taunt, Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you get to where you're trying to go? Hey,

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Speaker 10: Okay, uh, okay, all right, come on, come on, do it,

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Speaker 10: do it?

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Speaker 2: Do it.

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Speaker 1: That's that that boogie. That's that boogie disco music right there, y'all.

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Speaker 1: That's that get it on the desk. That's not end

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Speaker 1: up having to go get some help music. Right hey. Hey, anyway,

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Speaker 1: and make sure you do that. And without further ado,

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Speaker 1: let's bring him on.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's bring on the legend, the myth, the man himself.

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Speaker 1: Uh senior. Yeah, but but you know we know him

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Speaker 1: as Tam because you know he's from our era of

805
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Speaker 1: time when he snatched your soul out of your body

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Speaker 1: when he took you with that crossover. It's Tim Hardaway,

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Speaker 1: Senior NBA Hall of Fame point guard. It's time time

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Speaker 1: NBA All Star and five All.

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Speaker 2: NB A member.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. So welcome to the show. How

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Speaker 1: you feeling, man, Thank you man.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate y'all. I'm asking for y'all. Man, y'all doing great things.

813
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Speaker 7: I heard a bunch of great things about you all.

814
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Speaker 7: And yet that music is from my area, y'all.

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Speaker 1: He Hey, don't get too deep with that. That boogie

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Speaker 1: music was was for the boogie boogie.

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Speaker 4: Mr.

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Speaker 1: The boogie boogie.

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Speaker 7: Hey. I used to get down on a boogie boogie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, my brother, man, tell my brother man, I

821
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Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on with us today. Man, listen. I

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Speaker 2: had the opportunity to work with Tim on f S one,

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Speaker 2: y'all and in New in New York City for for

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Speaker 2: a couple of years. And uh, we used to go

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Speaker 2: back and forth basketball about basketball. And I challenged Tim

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Speaker 2: one day to a game of horse and he looked

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Speaker 2: at me. He was like, boy, please, So we we

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Speaker 2: walked across the street. He took he took his basketball

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Speaker 2: out the bag and needless to know, the man can

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Speaker 2: still shoot the basketball, so's he still has one up

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Speaker 2: on me. So he did take me down in the

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Speaker 2: game of horse. But before we get to the NBA,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you ask you a question. Me

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Speaker 2: and Levall was talking about this. Uh, you know the

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Speaker 2: demp Tim Hardaway juniors with Denver Nuggets now, but he

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Speaker 2: also played basketball at the University of Michigan. So give

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Speaker 2: us some insight on what this game means and and

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Speaker 2: and how do you think that this game is going

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Speaker 2: to take shape tomorrow? I mean on Saturday.

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Speaker 7: Man. You know, everybody in mission, I still I still

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Speaker 7: in Michigan. Everybody in Michigan raving over, you know, Michigan State, Michigan.

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Speaker 7: But you know Michigan is is at the Final four,

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Speaker 7: and they expected them to be at the Final four,

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Speaker 7: and they expect them to go all win win right now,

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Speaker 7: because they got a deep team. They play well, they

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Speaker 7: play hard. One thing they got to do is cut

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Speaker 7: down and they turnover. They if they don't have any

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Speaker 7: unforced turnover, especially late in the ball game, and just

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Speaker 7: keep playing their game tough mental because you know, the

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Speaker 7: Big Ten is always considered, always considered the toughest, strongest.

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Speaker 7: Uh uh. You know teams that come out to Big

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Speaker 7: ten and they play physical, that's what they do. They

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Speaker 7: play physical and the in your face, they knock you down.

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Speaker 7: Referees don't call fouls. You just it's like almost playing outdoors,

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Speaker 7: you know and pick up basketball. So you know, they

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Speaker 7: look they looking to play physical and they looking they

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Speaker 7: play their game. But I tell you this, man, the

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Speaker 7: Arizona team, man, they they they wasn't number one or

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Speaker 7: number two for the preseason for nothing.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 7: They it took them a lot of bumps and bruises,

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Speaker 7: ups and downs, driving tripulations to find really where they

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Speaker 7: were supposed to be at, how they were supposed to play,

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Speaker 7: and they found they stride late in the season and

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Speaker 7: they just gone, you know, uh to another level right now.

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Speaker 7: So that's gonna be a good, good, good game. I

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Speaker 7: think that's gonna be. Really that's gonna be a national

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Speaker 7: championship game to me. But you know, they still got

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Speaker 7: to play one more, guess Indiana or Connecticut. But I say,

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Speaker 7: what wins that Arizona game? I think Michigan will they

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Speaker 7: win the championship?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: That's that's a lot of people what they're saying let

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Speaker 1: me ask you this, and hearing the reports on Michigan

875
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: saying this could be the best Michigan team that's ever played. Dude,

876
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: you know I was making a point to Plex. I

877
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: feel like, while coverage and technology is out of premium,

878
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: technology is crazy at this point, I think it works

879
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: against today's athlete versus helped it. I think that in

880
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: simpler times, we sat down and we watched, we saw

881
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: details like again bringing you into the show. We can

882
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: tell people that before there was an Alan Iverson crossover

883
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: AI the answer, there was Tim Hardaway's crossover. We knew this,

884
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: like the details of what somebody brought to the table

885
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: with their game. I don't know that that exists now.

886
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean there's a couple guys you'll see, you know,

887
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: at the pro level, you'll you'll see guys that you

888
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: talk about that you know like kind of like from

889
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: from older you know, they're older guys, Steph Curry, you know,

890
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: Lebron James. You know, you will throw out some new

891
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: ones like SGA, But do we really know these guys,

892
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: like when they're in college, do we really know them?

893
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: I feel like once we got away from like maybe

894
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: the era of time like when Anthony Davis and them

895
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: were in college or whatever. It just doesn't seem like

896
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: we know the personalities like we did back when there

897
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: was a Billy Owens and a Derrick Coleman. You knew

898
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: who they were, you know, like a Lawrence Moten. Now

899
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm the name of off Syracuse. But you know you

900
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: talk about Yukon, you know, with Rip and all of

901
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: those guys like Donyelle the Marshalls. Right, It's like we

902
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: knew the personalities of these teams and that's what made

903
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: them so iconic. Do these teams this day, in this

904
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: day and age, do they have Do they have the

905
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: ability to even compete or contend to be considered the

906
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: greatest team that ever played for a university when you

907
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: have teams that like the Fab five that exist at

908
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: your school.

909
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 7: You know, some people ask me that, and I said,

910
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 7: when do you get that from? I don't I don't

911
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 7: understand the mindset of you saying this could be the

912
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 7: greatest Michigan basketball college basketball team that ever was a symbol.

913
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 7: I don't understand how anybody even can say that, because,

914
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 7: first of all, I say this, these are all transfers.

915
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 7: None of these guys stayed three or four years at

916
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 7: the University of Michigan. So you get so you got

917
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 7: Glenn Rice stayed three four years. You got Sean Sean

918
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 7: Higgins that played three or four years there at Michigan.

919
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 7: You had who else, ro Meal, Robert Mill you know,

920
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 7: played three or four years of Mells, Terry Mills that

921
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 7: played three or four years at Michigan. You know, you

922
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 7: had guys that played at Michigan and went through the

923
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 7: ups and downs and the bomps and the bruises through

924
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 7: that conference you know, you know, they lost to not

925
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 7: that they don't know. They lost to Illinois in the

926
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 7: conference tournament by thirty. They lost in the conference tournament

927
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 7: by thirty. And Glenn Rice said, look, follow my lead,

928
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 7: and he averaged whatever he averaged in six games. And

929
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 7: he and nobody, First of all, nobody on that team

930
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 7: at Michigan can shoot like Glenn Rice. Nobody on that

931
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 7: team that Michigan had six NBA players on that team,

932
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 7: six and seven NBA players on that team that won

933
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 7: that championship in eighty nine, that beat my guys from

934
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 7: Illinois that I was rooting for, Nick Anderson and Kendall

935
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 7: Gill and those guys Kenny Battle. You know, so yeah,

936
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 7: I'm saying this. I don't know why people try to

937
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 7: say this was the best Michigan team, you know, to

938
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 7: ever assembled, you know ass you know, besides the Fab

939
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 7: five and then you know, yet they forget about the

940
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 7: championship team that really won a championship in eighty nine.

941
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 7: Why you disguarding them? You know, I love Fab five,

942
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 7: but we're talking about who really who wanted?

943
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: Who won it?

944
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: Right?

945
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 7: You want it? Let's talk about who wanted. Let let's

946
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 7: stop talking about you know, Fas five. I love the

947
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 7: Five five, but they did not win it. So the

948
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 7: really the best team to ever come out of Michigan,

949
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 7: you know it is it's still you know, the eighty

950
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 7: nine team that won it all. You got to win

951
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 7: it all to be the best team they ever done it.

952
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 7: So they I think right now the eighty nine team

953
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 7: is the best team to win it. You know, whoever

954
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 7: done it for Michigan. You know, now we get to

955
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 7: this stage where we're talking about these other guys. They

956
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 7: all transfers, they have they have me. They all transfer

957
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 7: They came all five to six of them came from

958
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 7: a different school. And this year you know, so so

959
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 7: how basically, how can they be Michigan really you know

960
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 7: alarms or or or or you know, investing in Michigan

961
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 7: when you only come there for one year and you

962
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 7: win it and then you leave. I don't understand how.

963
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: Does that work? How does that work?

964
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 6: Like that?

965
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: Because I transfer into ni L Like, how is it

966
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: possible for teams to build that type of a relationship

967
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: with their fan base in the NIL eric Because we

968
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: were just talking about how if you go into the

969
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: tournament and you play out of a high that a team

970
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: is going to come take you. There's like a Cinderella team.

971
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: You come in, you play and ball out. There's gonna

972
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: be a power for a team that comes to get

973
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: you and bring you in on their team. So that's

974
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: that's a done deal. How do you build a reputation

975
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: or a relationship with your fan base when you're transfers

976
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: and you're only there for one season? How does that work?

977
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: Till?

978
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I'm removed from college since eighty nine.

979
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 7: So that's that's the question I would like somebody answer myself.

980
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 7: And they don't have to answer either. You know, it's

981
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 7: just it's still it's still up and down. You know,

982
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 7: Rick Portino said. Rick Patino said, after old after he

983
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 7: was done, he said his assistant coach, they had a

984
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 7: meeting the next day. Assistant coach said, well, you know,

985
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 7: and it's hypothetical. They this is how things go. This

986
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 7: is not I'm not not saying this is going to

987
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 7: happen or this is what they're saying is going to happen,

988
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 7: but this is what they say that you know, and

989
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 7: he just putting it, you know, you know how how

990
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 7: they look at these guys transfer. Well, you know, my

991
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 7: man from BYU he's looking at transfer. We need to

992
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 7: look at him. Somebody from Connecticut is looking at transfer.

993
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 7: We need to look at him. Somebody when you sell

994
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 7: l A he's looking at transfer. We need to look

995
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 7: at him. And that's the that's the high, right high,

996
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 7: high foul profile of their their team is those guys.

997
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 7: And that's what their assistant coach is coming to him

998
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 7: and saying, look, these hot foul profile guys are look

999
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 7: in the league. We need to look at them and

1000
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 7: see if they want to come to our school. And

1001
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 7: he said that he don't like that. He don't he

1002
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 7: don't like the way the college game is going right

1003
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 7: now because that's the way it is. We we I

1004
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 7: don't seen when I was scouted. I haven't actually seen

1005
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 7: other assistant coaches while the guys was warming up, or

1006
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 7: after he warmed up, go from another team, go and

1007
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 7: talk to these kids and pitch them to come to

1008
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 7: their school for next year. And I said, and I

1009
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 7: asked somebody. I said, that's that's illegal. Man, you can't

1010
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 7: do that. And they was like, yeah, that's what they're doing.

1011
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 7: That's how they're doing it. That's how they recruit you guys.

1012
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 7: I mean, this is this is not even March. We're

1013
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 7: talking about in December or or or November. They talking

1014
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 7: to kids something about next year, Yo, we don't need

1015
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 7: you next year. You'll fit well with our team next year.

1016
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 7: Here is my number and passing them a card. I'm like, man,

1017
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 7: I mean that that's that to me, that's just disrespectful

1018
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 7: to my team, my my school. Uh, and what you're

1019
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 7: doing right now in my face. But they get away

1020
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 7: with it.

1021
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: Hey, JOm so so switching over to the NBA. Switching

1022
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: over to the NBA. We'll get to winbing the Spurs

1023
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: in a minute, But right now today, who would get

1024
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: your vote for the n B A most Valuable.

1025
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 7: Player right now today, I'm still going with SGA. The

1026
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 7: way he takes over games, the way he does things

1027
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 7: out there on the court. Uh, how he put his

1028
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 7: team on his back. But but but Wenby is a

1029
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 7: close close second. I think, you know, in recent years,

1030
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 7: it was you know, the voting was was you know,

1031
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 7: you it was overwhelming this guy, overwhelming that guy. I

1032
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 7: think this is going to be a real close race.

1033
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a real close ballot.

1034
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 7: Everybody is going to be surprised how close it will be.

1035
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 7: But I think that s G A and and you

1036
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 7: know what I'm I'm gonna say this, the way these

1037
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 7: tap two teams are playing, the way these two young

1038
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 7: men are playing, they can't take a day off. The

1039
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 7: pressures on both of them. Now let's see now, now

1040
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 7: you know, now so so so san Antonio can still

1041
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 7: catch us catch okay see if okay see loses three, four,

1042
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 7: five in a row, you know, because it's only like

1043
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 7: eight games left, you know, five, six, seven games left,

1044
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 7: so they can really catch they can still you know,

1045
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 7: they can percentage right, they can still catch them because

1046
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 7: they're only five games up. So if san Antonio keeps

1047
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 7: up there what they're doing, and and okay, see has

1048
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 7: a little slippage, you know, then the edge's gonna go

1049
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 7: right to Winby. Okay, s got to got to do

1050
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 7: their job. They team, their team has to do their

1051
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 7: job for SGA to win that that MVP. But I

1052
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 7: do think that Winby, I mean it's close. He's close

1053
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 7: right behind them, and they and they on their neck

1054
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 7: for that number one seed in the West and the

1055
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 7: number one seed in the NBA. So I'm just I'm

1056
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 7: just saying my my pick is s g A right now,

1057
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 7: but Winby still has a shot. Yeah, and and and

1058
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 7: he's still a close second.

1059
00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

1060
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: Who has a better team who.

1061
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: In my opinion? In my opinion, well, the way that

1062
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: the sending of San Antonio Spurs are looking right now,

1063
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest. I don't think anybody can beat

1064
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: them in a seven game series. Maybe in a five

1065
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: game series, but I think that defensively, uh, they're tough

1066
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: and trying to contain Winby for seven games, I don't

1067
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: think anybody can do it. I just think that the

1068
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs are ready this year and they ready

1069
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 2: to come out of the West.

1070
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 7: I'll tell you this plus you right, you right, you right?

1071
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 7: SGA said, you know, we don't have an answer for them.

1072
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 7: You know, they they got our number. You know we're

1073
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 7: gonna have a tough time with them in the playoffs.

1074
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 7: But you still got to play the game and the

1075
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 7: till and then till you knock. Okay, see offense throne.

1076
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 7: I'm still putting them as favorite. But I can't. I

1077
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 7: cannot disagree with you, pleax because I mean, uh, San Antonio,

1078
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 7: many they scare me. Man, they're looking good, they looking

1079
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 7: good now they now, everybody got to stay healthy. That's

1080
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 7: the whole. If everybody stay healthy, then we're gonna we're

1081
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 7: gonna be set for a great, great, great playoff run.

1082
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: Can anybody out of the East be one of those

1083
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: two teams y'all are discussing.

1084
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 7: I don't think nobody. I don't think no. I don't

1085
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 7: think nobody from the East. They donna give them, They

1086
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 7: gonna give them a tough series. Now, it ain't gonna

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00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 7: be a walk in the park or or a piece

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 7: of kke. You know. But uh, I say that Detroit Pistons,

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 7: when they're healthy, they're right, you know. And and and the

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00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 7: next thing, Detroit Detroit didn't have like four THEY players

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00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 7: for five of THEY players for the game gets okay,

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00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 7: see and okay, she still had a tough time playing

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00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 7: against them and beating them in overtime. So you know

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00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 7: that tells the character of Detroit Piston. So you know

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00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 7: we'll see, you know, Kay Cunningham got to come back

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 7: to Kay Cunningham too. But yeah, I feel that Detroit

1097
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 7: can give them a run. I don't think nobody else

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00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 7: in the East can really run. And I don't and

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00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 7: I don't think you know, everybody. I'm gonna tell you that,

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 7: I don't think New York. Everybody's talking about New York. No,

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00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you this New York Knicks has to

1102
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 7: prove to themselves that I mean, as a team, I

1103
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 7: don't feel that they feel that they can win it.

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00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 7: They don't look like they they look lost. Something is

1105
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 7: wrong there. I don't know what's wrong, but you know

1106
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 7: it's the whole team. Everybody want to blame it on Cat,

1107
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 7: Everybody want to blame it on this person. I think

1108
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 7: it's the whole team, and I think the team needs

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 7: to have a meeting and and get some stuff off

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00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 7: their chest. I think they got a lot of stuff

1111
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 7: on their chest that they want to get off their chest,

1112
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 7: but they scared to talk to one another about it.

1113
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 7: I think they should have a whole just a great

1114
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 7: power wow among themselves. If they need to push and shove,

1115
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 7: if they need to get somebody's face, to cut somebody out,

1116
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 7: they need to get something off their chests for real.

1117
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 7: That's how it looks. They look like they somebody. It

1118
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 7: looks like they're if somebody scared to somebody, they scared

1119
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 7: to say something to somebody. It just doesn't look right there. Man,

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00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 7: it just doesn't look right.

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00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: But it's not supposed to be.

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00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 7: But I will say this, Boston. Boston is looking really

1123
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 7: really good. Boston is looking really good, you know, and

1124
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 7: they don't have their whole team. They they don't have

1125
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 7: Bushevich that that's coming off the bench, that that's a

1126
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 7: three point threat that he's been working out. So I

1127
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 7: you know, I think that Boston give him run for

1128
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 7: their money too.

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01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: M Yeah, it was supposed to be the nixt season.

1130
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: No Tyres Halliburt in Indiana, in Indiana, Joe Jason Tatum,

1131
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: but they just say it just seems like they just

1132
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: crumbled and the new York Licks. They don't look like that.

1133
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 2: That like they want to play with each other. That's

1134
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: what it looks like to me. But the Jason Tatum effect,

1135
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: I just think that when it comes down to it, uh,

1136
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: I think I think it's gonna be Detroit and the

1137
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics and the Eastern Conference Finals, and I just

1138
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: don't trust the Pistons. I just don't. Hey when when

1139
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: when the light skin is sassiny, he's getting better. We

1140
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: day in and day out. Jaylen Brown and called himself

1141
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: the best two way guard in all of basketball. But

1142
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: I just think when it comes down to it in

1143
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference is man, I just I just think

1144
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: that Boston celf is gonna come come out of the East.

1145
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 7: I tell you this. I'm gonna say this, man, it's

1146
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 7: gonna I hope they match up. I hope they match

1147
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 7: up in the Eastern Conference finals because if you get

1148
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 7: just think, if you got Boston Celtics and the Detroit

1149
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 7: Pistons like back in the heyday in the Eastern Conference,

1150
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 7: then you get yeah, and then you got OKC and

1151
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 7: San Antonio Spurs in the Western Conference Finals, you know

1152
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 7: that'd be a bond that both of them be the

1153
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 7: most watched h Western Eastern Conference Finals ever because they

1154
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 7: want to see that type of brand. If I tell

1155
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 7: you this, don't count out Denver Nuggets. Do not count

1156
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 7: out the different Nuggets and what they're doing.

1157
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna count different Nuggets as long as they

1158
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: got the joker, you know.

1159
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 7: And another thing I'm gonna tell you this man another thing,

1160
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 7: they not giving my son enough credit. Should be uh

1161
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 7: six Man of the Year candidate one, and they're not

1162
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 7: talking about him enough and what he has promoting and

1163
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 7: what he has.

1164
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 6: Done in.

1165
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 7: This season this year. You know, he's number one, and

1166
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 7: we me and him looked at all the stats of

1167
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 7: whoever they talking about his ahead of him. He's averaging more,

1168
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 7: he's shooting better, he's his skilled goal percentage is at

1169
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 7: forty five percent. Forty four percent from two is forty

1170
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 7: one percent from three. Uh He's he's the first guy, no,

1171
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 7: he's the third guy in NBA history to have seven

1172
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 7: more three corners in five games this year in a season.

1173
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 7: So you know, it's a lot of things that they're

1174
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 7: not saying and they're looking at other people and they're wrong.

1175
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 7: All right, my son should be a candidate for six

1176
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 7: man here and I think he should win it.

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01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 1: Well, ye have here now hard away?

1178
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: God, yeah, we advocated him hard the way do you

1179
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: for to be sixth Man of the year.

1180
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: Hey, tell before before we let you go, before we

1181
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: let you go, just real quick, and we're up on it.

1182
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: But the Chicago Bulls deal where they waved Jade n

1183
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: Ivy after his his comments, and everybody knows that they're

1184
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: they're well documented. Did you have an opinion on it?

1185
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 7: You know, I got opinion on it. You know. I

1186
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 7: wish they wouldn't have waved, to my think. I wish

1187
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 7: they would find him, set him down for a couple

1188
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 7: of games, made sure that his mind and health is good. Uh,

1189
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 7: let them get some Tell you, man, do you need counseling?

1190
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 7: Do you need health? Do you you know, talk to him,

1191
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 7: make sure that he's all right, because he sounds like

1192
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 7: he needs help. He's off the rails on a lot

1193
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 7: of things. It sounds like he needs somebody to talk

1194
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 7: to and somebody get get some stuff off his chest.

1195
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: So it's like they turned their back on him.

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01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, they turned their back.

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01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know.

1198
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Speaker 7: But I will say that I would want him to

1199
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 7: I will want him to come back to the league.

1200
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 7: I hope somebody pick him up. That that dude is

1201
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 7: a great talent. He could play the game basketball. And

1202
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 7: he's young and he wants to play and he wants

1203
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 7: to prove himself again. He needs just another opportunity And

1204
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 7: hope he gets another opportunity because I like the kid.

1205
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 7: I like the kid. And I told I tell everybody

1206
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 7: in Michigan, if somebody got his number and somebody knows him,

1207
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 7: tell him to call me so we can talk. So

1208
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 7: I could, you know, so we just talk, you know,

1209
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 7: just whatever you want to talk about. You know. Sometimes

1210
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 7: you know, in our community, a lot of people don't

1211
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 7: like to talk. But we need to start talking to

1212
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 7: one another. We need to uplift one another. We need

1213
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 7: to encourage one another and to talk and let's and

1214
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 7: let's get whatever you need to get out. Let's get

1215
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 7: it out and so you can move on in your

1216
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 7: life and move forward in your life and be better

1217
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 7: in your life with your kids, with your wife or

1218
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 7: what whoever. That's what I would say.

1219
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Till Hardaway Senior NBA Hall of Famer point guard, Extraordinary,

1220
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: five time NBA All Star and five times NBA My broh.

1221
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 7: Let me see this fu go. Lindsay Hunter and I

1222
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 7: we got crossover podcasts. You see us on YouTube every week.

1223
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 7: We talk about everything man, sports, hell, you know, business,

1224
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 7: whatever you want to discuss, you know. Look at us

1225
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 7: crossover podcasts on YouTube. Lindsey Hunter and my Jolf, this

1226
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 7: guy named Ted and Lindsay hand his son Kaylab.

1227
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go. Make sure you check out

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Speaker 1: the podcast Crossover Baby. That's Tim Hardaway Senior. We're taking

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Speaker 1: quick break leftovers on the other side, Fox Sports Radio.