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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 4: I'm Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson, and we are

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Speaker 4: happily back in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, after a little travel, a lot of travel today,

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Speaker 3: a lot of travel. Yeah, I'm moving forward to this coffee.

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Speaker 3: It's been a long day kick it in, Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: we hustle back for you guys, West Palm Beach to

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Speaker 3: LaGuardia and from LaGuardia to Pittsburgh. Yeah, no stumbles, but

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Speaker 3: we have a five am alarm this morning, so it's

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Speaker 3: been kind of a long day.

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Speaker 4: That's what we do to make sure that we bring

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Speaker 4: you a show every day that we're supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 4: Even though it was saying there were some issues in Florida,

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Speaker 4: the things that you can control, that wasn't big. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And that was the one thing about the setup in

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Speaker 4: because we stayed in West Palm Beach.

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Speaker 1: We go, right.

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Speaker 3: I learned that when we were there too. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: island is Palm Beach. Yes, Palm Beach is nice. It's nice,

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Speaker 3: and they don't want us in the breakers. No, not even.

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Speaker 4: Whereas at other league meetings we're indoors or we're you.

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Speaker 3: Know, this one didn give us a hallway or a

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Speaker 4: Right you're outside and well, mother nature.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it came crash on his calls.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, So we're now back in Pittsburgh and we're about

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Speaker 4: what twenty I say, twenty two days from the draft.

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Speaker 3: I think you said that we were in the airport,

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Speaker 3: you mentioned it. Yeah, we're not that far off.

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Speaker 4: Twenty two days in the draft, so a little over

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Speaker 4: three weeks or I guess that would makes sense because

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Speaker 4: today's Wednesday. The draft starts on a Thursday, So yeah,

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Speaker 4: there you go. Right, Tomorrow will be three weeks out officially.

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Speaker 4: And Matt I am more convinced than ever that the

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Speaker 4: Steelers making a defensive lineman in the first round.

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Speaker 3: I'm unbelievably convinced of it. I really I think that

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Speaker 3: they might go multiple. I absolutely think that Jackson Dart

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Speaker 3: at twenty one is a pipe dream that the national

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Speaker 3: media has created to get him in the first round.

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Speaker 3: So their mock drafts look good. I think Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: is going to be a Steeler, and I think they're

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Speaker 3: really interested in Milroe, though not in round one. I mean,

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Speaker 3: these are the things I'm starting to really into the fild.

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Speaker 3: No one's told me these things in four quarterbacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and maybe it's I don't think Milroe even gets to

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Speaker 3: next year's project. But I'm with you. I think we're line.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was no coincidence.

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Speaker 4: You know, twice Mike Tomlin mentioned, hey, look, we you know,

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Speaker 4: we visited Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we were at Texas. These guy's and they

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Speaker 4: all have quarterback prospects. Yeah, they all quarterback prospects, but

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Speaker 4: they're all mid round quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Right right, right right. And of course there were people Mississippi.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure someone who's a Colorado's Pro Day or whatever too,

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Speaker 3: I know who was not Intssissippi's either, right, right? Decision makers? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: You know, we haven't talked about some of these guys,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's real easy narrative say this

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Speaker 4: Which is how the quarterback class is always.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like be a starter. I think I believe

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Speaker 3: I'd like to take a bite at one of those

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Speaker 3: but they're valuable guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if if you draft that guy in

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Speaker 3: Rudolph right right, especially with the fifth round pick or.

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Speaker 4: Whatever, because remember Mason, Rudolph didn't play at all his

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Speaker 3: It was that's I keep coming back to Milroe, though, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: almost know Sanders isn't gonna be a Steeler. Warded will

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, I would be in that same boat.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna take four to camp, no doubt. We know that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the guy who's kind of grown on me, And

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Speaker 3: I promise you. There will be YouTube comments for mentioning him,

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Speaker 3: because you bring him up around here, you get some blowbacks.

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Speaker 4: Oh he had five interceptions agains.

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Speaker 3: Fit right, and oh, by the way, there's a lot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he just doesn't fit that well. You need a

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Speaker 4: afraid of the game, and he's Cord is not afraid

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Speaker 3: Game, no, right, I mean at worst, well maybe who

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Speaker 3: but he also makes some plays and last and lead

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Speaker 4: But I just think that that's you know, kind of

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Speaker 3: I think Milrod' is the highest graded guy you could

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Speaker 4: We Also, I think some of the quote unquote character

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Speaker 4: issue stuff with Walter Nolan was being overblown. Just talking

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it because their division rival or whatever,

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Speaker 3: but the Bengals who love Nolan. Oh, there's character issues

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Speaker 3: You know, I have heard, and when you and I

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Speaker 3: haven't talked about this, I've heard recently that he can

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Speaker 4: And yes, we understand there's no there's not a starting

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Speaker 4: Talking about trading for Kirk Cousins, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 4: I am Dale Lolly, the well traveled Matt Williamson. Uh,

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Speaker 4: and we are the Drive. We're back here, No Max Starks,

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Speaker 4: back to normal, back for us to the We have

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Speaker 3: We do have a guest coming up. Cue the music.

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Speaker 4: It'll be time for the Dean of Doom, the Lord

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Speaker 4: of living in his fears, Bob Labriola.

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Speaker 3: Right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least, He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 4: Radio welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 4: He is the Matt Williamson and we welcome into the

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Speaker 4: show the Dean of Doom, the Lord of living in

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Speaker 5: I'm liking the music. I took this last week, but

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Speaker 3: It's really growing, man.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to try and tell Justin how

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Speaker 5: Another song that's a good one. Yeah, gets the juices flow,

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Speaker 3: Always doing Palm Beach huh, Jos was one of my suggestions, Labs.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, you know, at travel today, guys are young, so.

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Speaker 4: Bob, we now say we've now seen the kind of

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Speaker 5: I think they dealers have had a couple of good

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Speaker 5: drafts back to back and now they need another one

439
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 5: because this, you know, rebuild, retool, whatever.

440
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: You want to call it, is definitely not over.

441
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 5: It's not completed.

442
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: So Leavs, Mike Tomlin and then Omar Kahn were predictably

443
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: asked by the media about the Aaron Rodgers situation, and

444
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 3: they both acknowledged it, as you know, but they didn't

445
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 3: jump down the rabbit hole or really get really far

446
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: depth into where that conversation is going. But then mister

447
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: Rooney was asked and were you a little shocked by

448
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 3: the definitiveness of his statements?

449
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 5: No, because I really don't think that they were that definitive.

450
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that in the.

451
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: In the in a different tone though than in the interpretation.

452
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 5: Of them as being definitive. I think that's more of

453
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 5: a hope, wishful think by the people listening, people who

454
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 5: are interested in it being the situation coming to a head,

455
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 5: being over one way or the other. And then there

456
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 5: are certainly the factions that are rooting for that to

457
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 5: be over one.

458
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: Way or the other. In other words, yay or nay.

459
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 5: But you know again that it's to me, there was

460
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 5: there was not it trending in the right way or

461
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 5: looking like it's going in whatever however are rudy phrased it.

462
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 5: You know, if it was a court of law, there's

463
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 5: still reasonable doubt.

464
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 4: As they say, is there as much reasonable doubt though

465
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 4: after the video surfaces of him playing catch with DK Metcalf.

466
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 5: Again, I think, you know, you can be trending one

467
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 5: way or the other, but.

468
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that I would vote with

469
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: a lot of.

470
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 5: Assuredness one way or the other. Again, I mean I know,

471
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 5: I think that again, as I said, everybody kind of

472
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 5: wants it to be over, and then within that group

473
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 5: that wants it to be over, they want it to

474
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Speaker 5: be resolved in the way that they want it to

475
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 5: be resolved. So there's a hope there. But I mean, seriously,

476
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 5: you cannot say I would not say beyond a reasonable

477
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 5: doubt and Aaron Rodgers will be a Pittsburgh Steeler in

478
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, going would I say that he would

479
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 5: not be a Pittsburgh Steeler beyond a reasonable doubt. I

480
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 5: think that you know, just the nature of the guy himself,

481
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 5: I think it's foolish to think you got it figured out.

482
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 5: I just until he decides and you know, so that's

483
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Speaker 5: where we are.

484
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Speaker 3: Deadlines weren't discussed or anything. But I've got to think

485
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Speaker 3: that they need an answer by the draft. Don't you agree, Well.

486
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: Let me say this.

487
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: I think they need an answer by the by ot As.

488
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 5: That's when I would if it were if it were me,

489
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 5: I would want an answer by OTAs and I would

490
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Speaker 5: want him at ot As going to Egypt or any

491
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 5: of that that happened last year.

492
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: Maybe that was many Campus to Egypt. Yes, okay, vacation lifetime.

493
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, you know by the documentary see that see

494
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Speaker 5: the pyramids.

495
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: The pyramids have been there a long time, Robbie he retires.

496
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Speaker 5: To Discovery Channel or whatever, you know, pyramids. But you know,

497
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Speaker 5: I just think that.

498
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: It's it's important.

499
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 5: For you know, the receivers and the quarterback to have

500
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 5: some sort of rapport. Certainly, the the DK Metcalfe Aaron

501
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 5: Rodgers little exercise was a step in that direction. I've

502
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 5: also seen speculation that maybe you know, Aaron Rodgers wanted

503
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 5: to see who is number one, what his number one

504
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 5: receiver would have if would have left in the tank,

505
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: or what he could bring, or because they never played together,

506
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 5: if it would he would end up in Pittsburgh. But

507
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 5: you know, Russell Wilson, I thought last year, you know,

508
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: he did a lot of things starting with OTAs in

509
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: terms of, you know, winning the locker room, learning his teammates,

510
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 5: his teammates learning him, all of that kind of stuff.

511
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 5: And I think that that's important. So, as I said,

512
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Speaker 5: in my opinion, if it was up to me, which

513
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 5: it is not, I would want it to be done

514
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: to me. The deadline deadline deadline.

515
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: Would not be the draft.

516
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 5: He'd like it by that certainly, but I would the

517
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 5: deadline for me would be whatever the first day.

518
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: And that's been kind of my stance on this all along, Bob,

519
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 4: that that you know, if he's coming, he has to

520
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: be all in. It can't be just one foot here

521
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: and one foot in Egypt or what you know, wherever

522
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: you know on top of Mount Sinai or wherever it

523
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 4: is that you know he wants to go and you

524
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 4: have to be part of this. You have to be present.

525
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 4: And that's to your point, is what Russell Wilson did

526
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 4: last year. I think there's a misnomer out there that

527
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 4: that you know, Cam Hayward and make a Fitzpatrick and T. J.

528
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: Watt were recruiting Russell Wilson. It was the other way around.

529
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson reached out to those guys and called those

530
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: guys and and said, hey, look, I want to come.

531
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about, you know, signing with the Steelers. I

532
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: just I want to, you know, check with you guys first,

533
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: and and make sure you guys are okay with me

534
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: joining that locker room.

535
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: You know.

536
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 4: So I do think that there's you know, a difference

537
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 4: here and and let's be honest, in many case employees,

538
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 4: which is what Aaron Rodgers would be, we'll we'll, we'll

539
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 4: get away or try to get away with whatever his

540
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: employer will put up with in terms of oh, I

541
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 4: don't have to go to mini camp. I don't have

542
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: to go. I got this, I got this vacation planned.

543
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: I just think the Steelers and Jets are such massive.

544
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: If the Jets had put their foot down and said no,

545
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: you've got to be here, you got to be here

546
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: for mini camp.

547
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: These are mandatory, then I.

548
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 4: Just think that that, you know, maybe maybe their season

549
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: goes differently last year. I just think, you know, when

550
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers goes to the GM and says, hey, go

551
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: get me Allan Lazard and and all my R Randall

552
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: Cobb and all these guys, and then they do it,

553
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: Go hire, Go hire Nathaniel Hackett, who had who had

554
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: lasted not even a half a season as a head.

555
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: Coach in Denver, and they do it.

556
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I just think it sets a bad precedent,

557
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: and so you know, I think there are some boundaries

558
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: that need to be set up.

559
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: And that that may have happened during.

560
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: That meet and greet, right, yeah, and that might be

561
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: what he is why is he not signing?

562
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: Well, he may be maulling this. Look.

563
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: Look, I'm not going to have the control that I

564
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: did in Green Bay or that I did in New York.

565
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: It might be even similar to Russell Wilson. It sounds

566
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 3: like his first year in Denver with Hackett. Yeah, he

567
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: took advantage of the situation to some degree or thought

568
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: maybe he was bigger in the organization, and Sean Payton

569
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 3: didn't see it that way at all, you know, and

570
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: then he comes here and was great and learn I

571
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: guess I can't do those things. Yeah.

572
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

573
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 5: The big difference though, I think with Russell Wilson and

574
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 5: Denver was Sean Payton did not inherit that move. Sean

575
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: Payton was not on board with that move.

576
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: He is no right he did Inherit. He did inherit

577
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: that movie. It's not his style of quarterba I spoke there.

578
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: So you know, that's a little bit different, certainly with

579
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: the I believe.

580
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not that sure about the chests, but

581
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: I will say this. You know, it seems to me

582
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 5: that you know that Mike Tomlin is in on this,

583
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 5: uh and has.

584
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: To be in favor of it, I would believe. And

585
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: so you know, whatever.

586
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: I was talked about during that meet and greet that

587
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 5: up mc rouning Sports Complex and Mike Tomlin was there,

588
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 5: I'm sure that there were a lot of those kinds

589
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: of issues brought up discussed, whatever what expectations are for

590
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 5: what And you know, it just seems to me that

591
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 5: for a guy, a player who has been in the

592
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 5: NFL as long as Aaron Rodgers has, you know, and

593
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: OTAs and Mini camp is, you've got a decent idea.

594
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 5: You know, you may miss it by a couple of days,

595
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 5: maybe a week if you're forecasting it. But I mean,

596
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: it's not like the fact that OTA started late May

597
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: and Mini camp is you know, sometime around the middle

598
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: of the around the middle of June is a big shock, right,

599
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 5: you know that's been that way forever.

600
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're a twenty year veteran, I think you

601
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: know what it's.

602
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 5: Certainly his agent is you know, right right, there's just

603
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 5: too much experience, you know, been there, done that in

604
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 5: terms of an NFL calendar for uh, you know that

605
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: to be a surprise. So you know, we'll see what happens.

606
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: So labs, I think we all agree that the big

607
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 3: people on defense is the biggest need, especially on that

608
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: side of the ball. But with the whole team D

609
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: line and I'd love to see him add two. But

610
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: the more I look at outside linebacker, inside linebacker, safety, corner,

611
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: I think they might be pretty close to being done.

612
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 3: I mean I think the depth chart. Yeah, they'll tweak it.

613
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: They may add a Kwan Alexander at camp or a

614
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: fifth round pick or something like that, but for the

615
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: most part, I think every position but one is basically

616
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: done on defense.

617
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: You know, I I don't get done at corner.

618
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: It's the right guy falls to me, I'll take him,

619
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: but it's not a knee.

620
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 5: Various sleigh on a one year deal. Corey Corey Trice

621
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 5: is one slip on what grass away from you know,

622
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: another knee injury. I mean, I'm certainly not rooting for

623
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 5: that or jinx him or anything. But you know, I

624
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 5: don't I don't think your your quarterback situation is uh,

625
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: you know, top of the depth chart stuff is.

626
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: You wouldn't be comfortable going in with this group.

627
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I wouldn't be comfortable going in with

628
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 5: this group, but I would like to have a young

629
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 5: guy who is, you know, top of the depth to

630
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 5: our potential kind of player added.

631
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: Even a fourth round pick or something like that.

632
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that would help me not live in

633
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 5: my fears man.

634
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: That we are talking right.

635
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: My entry music. But you know, corner to me is

636
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 5: you know how many you never have enough of those guys?

637
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: You know, I think on your fifty three meter roster

638
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 5: you could keep six corners. You got six corners you like,

639
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 5: I don't.

640
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean, like Beanie doesn't count to me as one

641
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: of the six. I mean, if he makes it, fine,

642
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: but that's I might. You know, right, I'm not chiseling

643
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: him on the stone as a roster guy.

644
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: Well, okay, then.

645
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: To your point to six, he's not not counting him

646
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: as a six. If he makes a team, fine, But

647
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm not like, oh, he's definitely.

648
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, I'm I'm looking at him as one of

649
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: my six and I still want.

650
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: To add one.

651
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, I can see another. I just don't.

652
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: I don't don't sleep on Brandon eccles.

653
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: I do like anybody's good. I think he's a good player.

654
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: That's fine, And I'm not saying he's not. I'm talking

655
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 5: about numbers.

656
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: Sure, numbers.

657
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Injuries are coming.

658
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Injuries are coming.

659
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Speaker 4: Just like winter coming out, uh, Bob the with the

660
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: the draft upcoming here in Green Bay in a few weeks,

661
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: and of course next year at this time we'll be

662
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: in the preparation for the draft here in Pittsburgh. Are

663
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: you going to be watching the draft a little bit

664
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: differently this year?

665
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 5: Knowing that, let me tell you this, the preparation for

666
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: the draft in Pittsburgh, we're having weekly meetings about that,

667
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 5: all right, right, I mean so yeah, right, you know,

668
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 5: the plans, there are a lot of plans for the

669
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 5: what's being called the mobile exhibit that's going to be

670
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 5: a part of the presentation for the draft in Pittsburgh.

671
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 5: There's a lot of things that have been settled already

672
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: with respect to that what.

673
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: It's going to look like a Super Bowl, you know, right,

674
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: I don't.

675
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about hosting a super Bowl.

676
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: But I'm just telling you that the work on this

677
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: has already started and has been you know, we've been

678
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 5: doing this since January. So yeah, it's not something that

679
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: I don't think you can kind of put together in

680
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: a in a short amount of time, especially in terms

681
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 5: of some of the things that they want to do

682
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 5: and showcase, and you know, for the fans because you

683
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: know it is in Pittsburgh, but you know, this is

684
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 5: an NFL event. Yeah, they're gonna be people. There will

685
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 5: be Steelers fans there certainly, and you know, all of

686
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 5: that good stuff. But there's gonna be a lot of

687
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 5: people who are fans of other teams that are gonna

688
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 5: come and they're gonna wear their jerseys there, you know,

689
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 5: Eagles jerseys or Brown's jerseys or you know whatever drive

690
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: to Pittsburgh. Because you know, that's one of the things

691
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 5: that I thought made Pittsburgh an attractive spot was the

692
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 5: number of fan bases that are or let me say this,

693
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 5: the number of teams whose host cities, home cities, or

694
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 5: within a short drive of Pittsburgh, you know, both towards

695
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: the Midwest, towards the east, a little bit to the south,

696
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: thought maybe down to Nashville, Indianapolis, you know, Cincinnati, all

697
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 5: those places. So I think a lot of people from

698
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: fans of other teams are gonna make the trip to Pittsburgh,

699
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 5: either because they have been to previous drafts and enjoyed them,

700
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 5: or because they have heard a lot of or watched

701
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 5: them on TV and it looks like a lot of fun. Hey,

702
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 5: that Pittsburgh get is closed. Let's try that. So yeah,

703
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 5: the fact that the draft is coming in green Bay

704
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 5: is having it in terms of watching it. You know,

705
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 5: me personally, I don't really I won't say I don't care,

706
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: but I don't think that what Green Bay does has

707
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 5: a big impact on what, you know, Pittsburgh and the

708
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: Steelers want to do. And in terms of the twenty

709
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 5: twenty six draft, I'm just looking at, you know, my

710
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: own particular little slice of heaven here in terms of

711
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 5: you know, the committee that I'm on and the plans

712
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 5: for for their ongoing But.

713
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: Does mean that twenty five days from now, Pittsburgh will

714
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 4: officially be on the clock.

715
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: On the clock.

716
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: Huh right, yeah, well.

717
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 5: That clock. Everybody thinks that clock is set for April

718
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six.

719
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that clock.

720
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 5: Is set to strike the Witching Hower many many months

721
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 5: before that.

722
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: Absolutely well, Bob, since you are so busy, we will

723
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: let you get back to uh yeah, get that all

724
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: ironed out before we talk next one.

725
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: Right, you know you guys will you guys will be

726
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: the first to know.

727
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: That's Bob Labriola, editor of Steeler's Digest, and well coming

728
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: up out of the crypt and the coming up out

729
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 4: of their cue.

730
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 3: The music great stuff. We weren't ready round, We weren't

731
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: ready for that. We have to have the exit music

732
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: as well. But he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

733
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Speaker 4: This is the drive on the Steelers Audio Network Labs.

734
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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you soon. Thanks a lot.

735
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams on

736
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

737
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

738
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lalli.

739
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 4: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the drive

740
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: on the Steelers Audio Network and longtime listeners of the

741
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: show Matt, know what fans we are the movie Tombstone.

742
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah that was We get to the air

743
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: that at the airport this morning, start scrolling as we're

744
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: waiting for the and I see Val Kilmer died.

745
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: I was like, man, yeah, it's not his only good

746
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: one too. He's a lot of huge, great ones. I

747
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: mean Heat and top Gun and the Doors, and I

748
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: mean a big one, no doubt about it. But dalk

749
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: Holiday is pretty high on maybe the most quotable of

750
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: all time characters periods. Right, like somebody just walked across

751
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: to your there's about a thousand of them corrected A. Yeah,

752
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 3: I might have to go watch it tonight at home. Yeah,

753
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 3: in honor. It's pretty darn good. Yeah, and I made

754
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: one of the most quotable movies ever.

755
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 4: But I believe, like when I used to do the

756
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: shows with Adam Crowley and he had not seen that

757
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 4: movie and I had to give him I had the

758
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 4: like the director's cut.

759
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: I think that holds up no matter what. I watch

760
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: that all the time when every time. But I mean,

761
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: like I watched that in college and after, I mean like,

762
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: but would my son get into it? With the younger generations,

763
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: I think so.

764
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, just the memorable lines, the one right right, right right,

765
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: because it's not like it's well, why did they pull

766
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 4: their cell phone out that? You know what I mean,

767
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: it's not like watching like my dad like to watch

768
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: westerns right right when That's what I was here thinking,

769
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: is that, like this is my father. I loved watching

770
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: that stuff, and.

771
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, watch right, you know, so along those lines,

772
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: like my son asked me, He's like, Dad, give me

773
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: your best comedies. And but he's like, they have to

774
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: be from two thousand or later otherwise I just don't

775
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: get him. I even try, and my I'm like, okay,

776
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean I get the generation gap. Yeah, you know.

777
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: So well, that's one of the things about that particular movie.

778
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: Like if you watch the Westerns from the fifties and

779
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 4: sixties and stuff, they were still dressed like they were

780
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: in the haircuts were I mean even like they had

781
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: from the sixties.

782
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: Even the TV productions of it all is still pretty rough.

783
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 4: Whereas with Tombstone, it was more they all grew the

784
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 4: mustaches all.

785
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: You know.

786
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: No, I think it holds up great, Yeah, because a lot,

787
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 3: don't you know. Yeah, that's a big one. Al Kelmer

788
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: is awesome. Yeah, so it's a shame. Yeah, and the

789
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: iceman's a big If you saw the last Top Gun

790
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: movie that you know this is, I don't know, if

791
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: you saw the documentary on Netflix, yeah I did. You know,

792
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: Basically it was pretty clear. I'm not trying to be coarse,

793
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 3: but he was at the end of his life and

794
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: kind of they did a really good documentary on him,

795
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: and he was not in great shape at the time obviously.

796
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: But yeah, awesome career.

797
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, great, great career, great actor, some great performances, and

798
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 4: you know, it's too bad.

799
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: I got a lot of friends I don't I don't good.

800
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, good stuff. So that wasn't, you know, the news

801
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 4: that you wanted to wake up to today.

802
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: But it is what it is. Did you see, Matt.

803
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 4: One of the things that we didn't talk about, the

804
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: NFL voted to incorporate the old AAFC stats.

805
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: I didn't notice that.

806
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: No, So it was the All American Football Conference, which

807
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: was existed from forty six to forty nine. You're talking

808
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: about the Cleveland Browns their original formation there. Yeah, the

809
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 4: forty nine ers were part of that. The Baltimore Cults

810
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 4: were part of that, and so many teams were in the.

811
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: Now, you're okay, more than what I knew, But I said,

812
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: we tapped out on my knowledge of that organization.

813
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 4: So it gives it gives the Browns an additional fifty

814
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 4: two regular season and playoff winsor.

815
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: Paul Brown, okay, probably not kind of the Steelers.

816
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: So now he has moved from twenty second place on

817
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 4: the all time coaching list to seventh.

818
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: Wow, that's deserved. I got no problem with that. I mean,

819
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: it's certainly gonna help them a lot more. It's gonna

820
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: help the Steelers. But I mean, did they do they

821
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: count that for like wins?

822
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 5: You know?

823
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: Like how there's the interesting Thingkay?

824
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, in nineteen forty eight, the Browns went fourteen and

825
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: oh in the regular season and then won the championship

826
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 4: to go fifteen and oh. Do we now have because

827
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 4: they've they've they've given this the Okay, we're gonna include

828
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 4: this in our record books.

829
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: That's the same as a dolphin.

830
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: Is it the same as the dolphins? No, they say

831
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: dolphins in the super Bowl era? Yeah, that's the I mean,

832
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: that's the Yeah. The line of demarcation is the super

833
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: Bowl era. There has to be others though, I mean,

834
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: didn't the Canton Bulldogs go seven and oh in nineteen

835
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 4: twenty two or something, And you know there has to

836
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 4: be some teams that have gone undefeated the beginning of time.

837
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: It all al so makes.

838
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: For example, Mariam Motley's five point seven yards per carry

839
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 4: when you add in his those numbers maked it the

840
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 4: fourth best for a running back with at least seven

841
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty carries in his career, raised his his avera.

842
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: Still behind Lake Jamal Charles and Jim Brown, and Lou

843
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 3: Roso moves up to twenty fourth in all times covering

844
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: the toe.

845
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 4: But where a Tittle's numbers improved because he was part

846
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: of that.

847
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: Like when they do how many victories every franchise has,

848
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the Browns are a lot higher

849
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: on the list. Now here's the interesting one, for they

850
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: were by far the best steeler for that generation. The

851
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: nineteen forty eight forty nine Ers ran for three thousand,

852
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: six hundred and sixty three yards That is now the

853
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 3: NFL record in a single season.

854
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: Wow, the Ravens got kicked out off the top of

855
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: the file. There, I guarantee you John Harbaugh not happy

856
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: about that.

857
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: All right, might have to beat it next year. I

858
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: don't know how I feel about it. I mean, it's

859
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: so long ago. None of us remember those teams. I

860
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: mean maybe our grandfathers do, et cetera. But all the

861
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: things we've kind of known to be true aren't quite

862
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: as true anymore, you know, just overnight, because everyone got

863
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: together instead a well, it's change all the stats, change history,

864
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: you know, change a little history, kind of like Val Kilmer. Yeah,

865
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: there you go.

866
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: It's dog holity bringing it all back around. Let's get

867
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: to a break. You go watch Tombstone, everyone, Yeah, go

868
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: watch Tombstone. Go watch the doors. It longtuf eats great,

869
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 4: heats great. Yeah, pop gun. Anyways, that's going to do

870
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: it for our number one of the drive here on

871
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back

872
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 4: with our number two right after this