WEBVTT - Funny Business with Iliza Shlesinger 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.440 Because you guys love the new format so much. Sometimes 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.120 we get thrown a guest, and you know, we love 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.639 we love the format. We love getting all the comments 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.520 that you guys love it so much. So when we 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.360 get an awesome a list guest, we're going to give 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.120 you a little bonus episode. So that is what this is. Girls, 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.080 are you so excited? I'm actually over. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.160 That, I say, Kristin's super excited. I'm sure. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.640 So We've got Eliza Schlessinger on. She is a stand 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.320 up comedian and she has a new special out called 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:41.040 a Different Animal on Amazon Prime. And I'm really excited 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:42.879 to talk to her because I have I have a 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.519 few things I kind of want to bring up about 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.640 female comedians. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:49.919 Probably similar to the things I'd like to bring up. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:54.920 Yeah, And because if I'm honest, I love I love 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:57.280 I don't know why, but I love watching the male 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:58.680 comedians more. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.760 I'm honest, I don't watch stand up comedy at all. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.000 Oh really, why you don't? Thing? It's funny. I took 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:05.839 you to Sebastian. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.360 I did, and I loved to Sebastian. But I'm not 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:09.839 going to watch anything on TV. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.600 Sounded so appropriate. That was great, that was fun. I 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.600 will go if someone says let's go. Yeah, but no, 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:17.440 I don't want it at all. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:17.959 Oh, I know me. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:19.839 I don't like comedies. I like drama like. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:24.800 I love watching comedy shows specials. I love it. I struggle. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:26.959 I don't think a lot of them are funny. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.760 You knows, that's more a man thing. Like women. I 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.960 feel like, don't watch as much stand up comedy. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:34.880 We should ask ask an expert. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.200 I just watched this one, you guys, he's so funny. 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.920 It's this Scottish comedian. Alan's obsessed with him. I had 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.800 to put subtitles on understand. It was like intense. I 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.600 tried to DM him just because he's like a really 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.440 I mean, Alan loved him so much. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.920 Would we think he's funny? Well, that's the thing. I 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.080 want to Scottish comedian. I mean, we're we made. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.279 A tast in Scotland and we got to tell you then. Kevin, 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.200 his name is Kevin Bridges. Hold on a second, so 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.200 I'm going to pull up one of his little skits. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.840 So but I did DM him. I was like, my 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.040 husband loves you, because I wanted to see like when 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.720 he was playing let's see if you're saying mate, Oh no, 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:13.440 he didn't respond. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.280 Hey, Ken, if you're listening, did you read it? Oh 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:19.120 that would be funny. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:19.720 Oh they don't. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.320 It says a cow came receive your message because they 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.560 don't allow new message requests from everyone. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:25.959 The thing is is like when you go to see 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.000 a comedian, the pressure like, yeah, it's fun to make 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.000 people unexpectedly laugh when they're there, and they're like, be funny. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:33.440 That just makes my throat close. 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:39.160 Let's get her on here, I am. Let's get started, ladies. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:40.000 Who do we hate? 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:40.679 Oh? 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:45.480 My god, yeah, I love you? Kind you dislike? 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:45.960 Is who? 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:46.840 What I want to know? 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.480 Do I dislike? Yeah? No one I'm going to say 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.640 publicly on a podcast love that. Yeah? 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:53.280 No, for sure. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:58.120 Same. I've learned my lesson. Who did you say? Don't 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.679 even want to remat We can't go. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.600 No, my my attorneys right here will not allow me 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:04.440 to see further. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:06.560 We have the receipts somewhere. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.720 No, we don't know. We've scrubbed it. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.519 Scrubbed it from the internet. It never happened, effects. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:19.160 Scrub scrubbed because I actually don't I've said this actually 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.600 I don't hate. I dislike, but I don't hate anyone, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.440 because my mom always said that as a kid, She's like, 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:25.480 you don't hate, you dislike. 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.200 I don't know why moms always say that. I'm pretty 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.400 casual about who I hate and I throw it around. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.200 But do you really mean that, like you really like 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.120 there's like true, I don't know. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.360 I guess what is hate, right, right, Like actually hating 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.120 someone and then they're like you hate them, probably because 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.000 you like secretly love them, But like, I really really 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:51.040 really detest Kanye West, but I don't hate him because 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.640 I think there's something wrong with him, so I almost 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:53.640 feel bad for him. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.280 Right that one. I don't care. I'm never gonna like 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:57.160 need a record deal. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.280 Like it's okay to write some people, it's okay to 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.400 openly hate, Like once you're an open Nazi, it's. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.360 Like okay, yeah yeah, fair, yeah fair, Yeah, so easy, 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.600 we all move on, right Yeah No, no, no, that is 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.720 I just think it's so hard because when you don't 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.560 actually and that's why I've taken been more careful with words, 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.800 be cause it's like I don't I don't know these 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.359 people that I sometimes have opinions on, so It's like, 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.760 how can I actually say I don't like X, Y 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.280 and Z from what I see when I don't actually know. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.360 And I don't like it when people do that to 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.359 me because they don't know the inside, right. So it's like, 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.920 I don't think it's fair then to say, like everyone 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.400 hates on Megan Markle. I was watching her show because 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.000 I just would love to see what that You know, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.560 what the show is and all about it, but you know, 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.080 I don't know, and like with the ins and outs 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.840 of all of it, is so like, how can I 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.160 hate someone that I don't even know? 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:49.720 Right? 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.760 So not hate, but I do think, you know, And 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.080 I can't say as a public person, like we put 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.719 stuff out there and the lesson that I've had to 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:57.360 learn if. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.640 We're really getting cosmically granular. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.880 About it, like you genuinely can't control people's reaction, and 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.200 it usually has to do with the fact that as 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:11.000 a woman like you dared to try that really upsets people, and. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:11.760 So it does. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.279 I was actually thinking about this this morning, being preemptively judged, 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.719 Like I hate the idea that I would make a 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.760 joke that's a good joke, but a fan would like 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.920 just read something about it or a person, and then 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.800 they'd be like, well, she obviously hates coyotes. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:26.679 And you're like, no, I don't. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.520 It was a joke about how we shouldn't be killing them, 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.400 but you only read the hot take of someone else, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.440 which is normally how we judge things. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.239 So I don't think it's ever hate. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:40.120 But I do think people when we put ourselves out there, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.120 you are putting yourself out there so people can digest 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.880 it however they want, and that's something that we have 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.320 to get over as public figures. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.320 Well, I feel like it's got to be hard to though, 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.160 because one of the reasons why I love com I mean, 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.880 I'm I love comedy. I love comedians. I think you 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.400 guys are hilarious, and I feel like you guys get 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.640 a pass to say things that we want to say 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.800 but we can't say. But I feel like as the 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.080 years go on, I've seen comedians kind of tighten up 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.760 a little bit because they're afraid of certain backlash, and 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.200 it's like, I hate that because I'm like, that's why 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:16.000 I love watching comedians, because they say things. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:16.240 That are. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.680 Politically incorrect or whatever it is, and it's okay because 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.880 you almost get like like I said, like a free pass, 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.839 but now I feel like it's kind of changing a bit. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.039 I think it depends on the comedian, because I don't 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.440 think you'll find that with a lot of well known 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.719 white male comedians. I think they're like, I'm just going 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.440 to keep doing it, and we do give them a 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.160 pass in general because it's like, oh, he's like your 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.239 grumpy uncle. I do think at a lower level of comedy, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.040 people are aware of that because you're so let's say 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.400 you're like a D level comic or you're just starting 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.560 out right, you are still down there with the masses. 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.120 You are not up in your mansion getting a billion 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.279 dollars for a special, So you are beholden to the 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.960 slings and arrows of public judgment because you are with 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.680 those people. And then that's why celebrities get called out 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.719 of tough much. And it's not it's because you can't 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.560 be in touch. You can't be one of the people 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.600 when you have risen to like, let's say, a Dave 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:07.560 Chappelle level. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:09.160 I also think. 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.400 There is an art to saying the right thing and 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.720 so being misunderstood. Sometimes it is because you did not 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.760 accurately explain your joke. You didn't posit a thesis, You 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.240 didn't really explain yourself. You just said something for the 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.280 sake of the shock of it, which is also fine. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.200 And the question is like are you going to be 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.000 okay with it? Are you going to be okay? Like 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.440 do you want to go to the mat on that 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.760 trans joke? Was it a good trans joke? Was it 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.320 a good Jewish joke? You know? But I do think 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:42.520 in general, our conscience has been raised in terms of 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.800 why we say the jokes that we say, and like 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.920 is it actually hurting someone when you, you know, call 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.280 women whoes? Which I've done, you know, And as I 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.200 get older, I'm like, maybe don't Maybe we can say 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.120 something smarter, you know. So I think I don't mind 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.480 the reckoning of like figuring out like where is your 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.120 joke coming from? But I do think like true big 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.520 comics like and I would clude myself in that, like 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.320 we're still saying the things that we want to say. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.240 And the question is always like what's your intention beyond 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:08.920 making a joke? 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:10.400 Like what do you really want to say here? 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.360 And how can you say it so that you can 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.200 get the most amount of people on your side without 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:14.880 hurting anyone? 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:15.400 Deliberately. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:16.239 Sure. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:17.920 Sorry, I think about this stuff a lot. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.800 Yeah, it makes sense. So I hate coyotes. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.720 I'd like to just say that, since we're on the topic, 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:24.760 I want to tack to my dog and I actually 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.320 hate them. So I'm gonna go ahead and say it 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:27.000 for you if. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.560 You can cancel me. But you can cancel me for 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:29.880 the example. No, I wouldn't. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.840 No, I wouldn't, but I someone then cancel me, and 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.480 that's fine. When you were growing up, like what was 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.800 like A life of a comedian is just so fun 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.920 to me, But I sometimes feel like the comedy doesn't 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.319 always come from like the most like go get in place, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.720 Like a lot of times funny people are funny because 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.160 of trauma my personal experience, and I'm just like, growing up, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:50.800 what was it like, when did you know you wanted 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.800 to be a comedian? Did you just decide Like a 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.600 couple of days ago you're like, yeah, I'll go all 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.400 in on this because it seems you're working out or. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.440 I'm still deciding. Yeah, Like the jury is still out. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.240 I think there's I can't remember who said this. I 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.760 want to say it's Larry David, but I could be wrong, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.720 and i'd have to call out to my husband. 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:07.440 I'm not going to do that. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.320 There was some comic that once said, like, comedy is 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.760 either and I'm gonna paraphrase this and butcher it like 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.520 like suburban or urban, like suburban or street like. It's 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.640 either coming from like something painful that happened at a disadvantage, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:26.560 or you are commenting on the mendanity of like everyday life, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.800 right like, And it's usually those two buckets. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.080 And I always think comedy I agree with that. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.000 And I think when you make a joke, it's either 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.240 I'm saying something that's so relatable whether or not you 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.120 had the wherewithal to say it, and you're like, I 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.920 can't believe she said that, or you're saying something so 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.720 unrelatable that it's hilarious. I find that it's usually those 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.840 two buckets. I tend to go with the more relatable topic. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.440 But I don't know. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.320 I think when you're growing up, everybody has something that 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:54.880 they trade on. It could be your looks, it could 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.120 be your athleticism. Maybe you're the kid who like actually 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.600 works at the group project. I was always a kid 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.600 that's like, let's do a skit. And I was always like, 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.320 if there's like oral report or write it down. I'm like, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:10.080 let's like let's have some razzle devil, but then you 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:11.800 can phone it in, like you let your friend who's 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.360 gonna go to like medical school, like do the actual work. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.800 And I'm just gonna like make it fun for everyone. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.520 And I think being able to make kids laugh, especially 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.439 at an age like young girls weren't always like encouraged 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.560 to be funny, and I was. And that's how I 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.640 got girls to like me. It's how I got boys 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.480 to be my friends. And so the goal was always 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.040 making people laugh, and that just becomes your thing and 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.880 it just kind of stayed my thing. And then and 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.959 then here I am with an Amazon special at forty two. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.360 I mean that's amazing. Yeah right, you really? 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.400 Yeah, I mean give yourself a little bit more like credit, 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.160 Like that's we did skip a lot. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:50.920 We did skip a lot. I am just trying to. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.320 Yeah, I was like, wow, I got there. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.120 I've had two kids. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:58.120 A lot of it's blurry, but getting people to laugh 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.800 is always the way I make myself comfortable. It's also 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.720 the way that you kind of relate to people in 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.760 a room you walk in, you know, you kind of 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.640 throw out things to see, like who's on the same 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.959 level as me? Who can I get on my side? 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:11.520 Who can I make more comfortable? 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.760 Was that ever a survival technique turned comedy or was 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:15.839 that kind of like a. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.400 I mean, problems is an innate thing. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:23.200 I mean, everybody has parents who were divorced, and like 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.440 that seemed fine at the time, But if you can't 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.560 really examine your life until you're like over thirty five, 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.280 Like I've been doing interviews in podcasts forever. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.959 Like what's your inspiration? What's your cosmic pull? 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.960 And I'm like, I don't know, vodka, SODA's And then 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.640 you start to get older and you're like, oh, that's why. 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:41.920 That's why I always thought, you know, And so it 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.680 is this complex thing. And to even begin to understand 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.800 comedic inspiration, I think you have to like review a 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.280 full career. So it's a deeply complex and boring answer. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:55.360 But making people laugh makes me feel good. Yeah, So 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.120 any comic that tells you like, I just want to 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.559 make people laugh and the rest of that sentences because 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.040 I'm selfish and I deeply need it to feel good 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:03.920 about myself. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.319 Well, no, but it does feel good, you know what 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.040 I mean, Like I remember being up on stage and 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.280 saying a joke. It's nice to hear people laugh when 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.520 you know, when we're on tour or whatever it is. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.520 You know, yeah, like I'm not funny at all, really true. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.040 But it's not said one thing exactly. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.520 That's what I'm saying. I'm not funny, But if people 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.000 actually laughed at me, I'd be. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.840 Like, oh wow, like that was actually funny. Very validating, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:28.679 Like it is very validating. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.040 Well, it's also powerful in that. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:36.640 Yeah, it's it's all at once validating, affirming, reaffirming on 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.840 the days you feel bad and it's sexual and I 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.720 often think about, you know, all the years that I 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.120 like slogged it out in the clubs. 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.439 This is at a time where like you still had to. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.600 Hear women aren't funny, but you are, and you're like cool, 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.480 you sound you sound super evolved. But I would get 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.839 men would come up to me after the show and 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.120 their girlfriend was laughing because I could see them because 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.120 it was like a small club, and the guy, I 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.240 remember this happened more than once. 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.320 The guy would shake my hand really hard, and I 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.360 was always like, what is. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.400 That, Like, I'm not talking about how strong I am. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.920 It's a dominance thing. So there is this thing because 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.280 women find a sense of humor, like it's up there 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.800 with in terms of sexuality, Like that's very like we 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.360 will ugly dudes with weird teeth because you're like, he. 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:19.240 Needs me laugh. 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.600 And you never see it the other way. I've never 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.760 had a smoking hot guy. You look, she's funny, and 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.880 now I'm wrong hard like they don't. You occasionally get 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.600 like the one weird one and you're like, what's wrong 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.800 with why are you so hot? And think that I 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.400 am because I'm making you laugh. Funny is sexy in 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.400 a man and a woman. It's kind of like touch 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.800 or go. It's not something because men are not as 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:44.840 cerebral as women. All this is to say I would 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.959 spend the hour making his girlfriend laugh in a way 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.840 that he never could making the woman with him laugh, 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:57.760 which we likento something like a sexual experience, right, And 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.720 I think that there's something threatening not all men, not 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.160 all the time, but I this is the only way 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.880 I could diagnose it. I spend an hour like sacking 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.760 your girlfriend basically like she's super turned on and she's 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.080 having this great time in a way that you couldn't. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.960 So to assert physical dominance. They would shake my hand 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.760 really hard and it always hurt and it never felt great. 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.400 But there is like a sexual component, like if you 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.760 can get people to laugh, they feel comfortable and safe, 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.320 and so that's that metaphysical aspect to it. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.200 Do you think there is less spots for women in 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.880 comedy or more less spots? Yeah, like where it's the 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.960 competitiveness of it and having because I mean, I see 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.440 more male specials than you know. I obviously watch Nikki's, 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.640 I'll watch yours obviously, but like. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.080 Which one of them? 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.040 Don't we watch all some of the new one that's 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.360 coming out, Thank you, absolutely them. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.480 You know what, people are gonna get upset about this, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.040 but I think real feminists know, Look, this is a 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.200 numbers game. There are more men doing stand up, so 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.440 numbers wise, there will be more men who have specials 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.480 because of volume, so what you and so there's that. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.120 I think it's never been a better time to be 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.760 something other than a man in comedy because people are 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.600 more open to it. Part of that is all the 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.280 work done by the women who came before me, and 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.280 part of that is the work done by me and 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.640 other women of my sort of class of comedy who 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.720 you know, came in there and show that you can 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.360 be attractive and funny and have multiple and like have 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.680 the things that men have. I mean some of some 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:44.360 of the biggest comics are women, you know. And so 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.000 it's not I'm not it's not an indictment on your question, 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.200 but I do think women ask that because it's frustrating 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.120 when you don't get the things that you want. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:54.800 But here's the god's honest truth. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:59.480 No one who's actually funny, like good funny, not just 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.280 like little funny and doing the work isn't getting ahead. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.920 No one. It just doesn't happen. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.160 And I promise you because I'm out there male and female, Like, 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.680 there's a lot of mediocre comedy out there, but if 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.120 you can combine even being mediocre with working hard, you'll 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.240 get somewhere. So I think people are disheartened because it 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.360 is so frustrating. But the excuse and I hear this, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.120 you didn't say this, but like, oh, it's because I'm 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:23.440 a girl. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.200 I didn't get these spots because I'm a girl. I'm 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:25.880 not on that lineup. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.640 It's like, no, no, because that takes away from what 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.360 I've earned as a woman. That's saying that I'm just 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.440 up there because I'm a woman, which is incorrect. And 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.960 so I do think people don't realize, at least for 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.360 stand up, which I realize is a very small percentage 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.120 of people listening to this who actually care about the 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.760 stand up it is. There is work, like it is 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:48.520 a craft. It warrants ten thousand hours plus. It's not 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.080 just writing down a couple jokes and then going up 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.600 and then being like I didn't get on this lineup 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.040 because I'm not one of the guys. It's like, well, 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.120 then go make your own show. There's no rules in 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.360 show business. You know, you can do whatever you want. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.520 I always say, can the best person get the job? 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:06.439 But I also understand wanting to include everybody, But I 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.440 just I still just go back to the you know who. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.000 Why can't it just be the best person. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.920 It can't be the best person because the best people 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:17.520 aren't always deciding. But I do think laughing, like laughter 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:21.600 is a meritocracy. Like nobody laughs continuously at a joke 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.800 because it's because you're a woman and you're like, oh, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.080 she's trying, Like we might give you the laugh a 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.680 couple times because we're nervous or whatever. But nobody's gonna 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.159 watch your full hour and buy tickets to see you 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.600 out of like the kindness of their heart because token ism, right, 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:38.919 And so the best person also can't always get the job, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.080 you know, for whatever reason, whoever's doing the including or 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.879 whatever the audience is. But there's the good news is 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.320 there's enough jobs out there mm hm at least, so. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.680