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Speaker 1: John Nnick and Kenny Florian podcast us. That's so gary,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, Oh my god, you're your hosts, John Nnick

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: And I guess we can only hope that this episode

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Speaker 2: is worth the wait. It is Thursday, our apologies, it's

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Speaker 2: not Monday. It's Thursday, February fifteenth, twenty eighteen, Episode one

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Speaker 2: forty three of the Anak and Florian Podcast. We're coming

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Speaker 2: up on the three year anniversary of this goddamn thing.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, for the first time in the

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Speaker 2: history of this show, can Flow cracking a mic today as.

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Speaker 3: A dad father of the Year already.

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Speaker 2: So your wife Clark gave birth to a beautiful baby

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Speaker 2: girl Friday night. Yeah, I guess it was just after

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Speaker 2: midnight Eastern Time, about nine pm or so Friday night.

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Speaker 3: Ken Flow finally becomes a father.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting chills and I'm not even I mean, unbelievable man.

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Speaker 4: How you doing good man? I'm glad you told me

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Speaker 4: it was Thursday. I don't know the year, I don't

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Speaker 4: know who the president is. I feel like I feel

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Speaker 4: like so much time has passed due since the last podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, so much has happened man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was supposed to go actually do the two

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Speaker 4: twenty one post fight pre and post fight show, kind

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Speaker 4: of getting ready for that, and you know, Clark's water

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Speaker 4: breaks and then I was like, well, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: And then the contraction started, and uh, you know, I'll

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Speaker 4: hell break loose.

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Speaker 3: I'll hell broke loose. We had to get everything ready

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Speaker 3: like it was crazy. It was.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty hectic. Even the drive to the hospital

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Speaker 4: was almost like something out of a movie, you know,

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Speaker 4: like you get to the you know, I had to

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Speaker 4: Clark's in pain. I have to pull over every once

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Speaker 4: in a while because she's having like these crazy contractions.

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Speaker 4: She had back labor all this stuff. But in the end, man,

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Speaker 4: it all came out amazing, no pun intended. Uh and

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Speaker 4: uh yeah, we got a baby girl. Man, so exciting times.

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy for you.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I said as a father of two

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Speaker 2: because one life quickly segues and gives way to a

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Speaker 2: a crazy story man driving to the hospital. Thankfully. Thankfully,

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Speaker 3: So I'm not too worried about you.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I am worried about your sleeping a little bit. I

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Speaker 2: know you're not a great sleeper to begin with. Maybe

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: They drop a baby in your lap, and I know

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Speaker 3: But it's like, here, take this, it's yours. We're taking more.

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Speaker 4: We don't have to sign anything, no, you guys, really,

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Speaker 4: there's no tests that we got to take because I

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Speaker 2: Like even when you take a puppet wall it's really young,

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if my wife wanted me to

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Speaker 3: Man. It's amazing what the human body can do.

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Speaker 4: And then just knowing that, you know, that's an expression

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Speaker 4: Looking to your daughter's eyes, you know, when she was born,

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited for you and Clark, thanks for being

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Speaker 2: You're gonna crush the labor and then six hours later

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Speaker 2: I was like, did I incite this?

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Speaker 3: Did I expedite the process with my dad's buddy. I didn't.

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Speaker 3: So awesome for you. The father daughter thing is very powerful.

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Speaker 3: I'm a fucking mess.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna a Quantas Airport lounge in Brisbane, Australia,

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Speaker 3: All right, enough of that.

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Speaker 2: Very happy for you, man, and all the best over

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Speaker 2: these next several weeks and months went when obviously there

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Speaker 3: Just tell Jason hunt Man like, get back, get back.

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Speaker 2: In the studio, get back in May, Rocky beat JJ

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Speaker 2: Kenny can't teach all the classes father. Coming up today

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Speaker 2: recap of UFC two twenty one. There are so many

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Speaker 2: in per Western Australia, and you know the flow, baby,

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Speaker 3: That trip, bro, I know, I was texting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so seventy hours of travel, thirty five hours

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Speaker 2: I don't use the word breathtaking very often in my vernacular, right,

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Speaker 3: Also, UFC has a fight Night in Austin this coming

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Speaker 3: the main event challenge. Ray long Ago going to be

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Speaker 3: with us later today as well. And also we will

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Speaker 3: have the top ten things you would text Kenny Florian

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Speaker 3: after the birth of his daughter. So we thank the

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Speaker 4: First, though, time for some time for some headlines.

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Speaker 1: Headlines. It's time for headlines.

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Speaker 2: Oh Western Australia is so far away, Ken Flow. It

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Speaker 2: is just so far from Miami, Florida. You can't get

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Speaker 4: You know, as far as Romero, yes, this guy is explosive,

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Speaker 3: Just Romero landed first man.

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Speaker 4: And I thought he had a little bit better of

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Speaker 4: And the problem is, you know, to advance against someone

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's well put.

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Speaker 2: And I think too it's easy to say in hindsight

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Speaker 2: Maybe can we not you know, exacerbate things by allowing

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Speaker 4: Forget about the fact that this was just awkward to watch, right,

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Speaker 4: Who's stopping that from happening? I mean, who knows what

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Speaker 4: He's not in one in the UFC, the only loss

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Speaker 2: I didn't even think it was top five. But I'm

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Speaker 2: a believer now after what he did against Mark Han.

439
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,440
Speaker 2: I know Mark Khant's going to be forty four in March,

440
00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,440
Speaker 2: but still no picnic fighting that guy in Australia. I

441
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,159
Speaker 2: thought Blades dealt with the adversity well and showed Ja

442
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 2: his patented tuble legg takedown. I think, which is going

443
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 2: to be a real problem not just for Hunt, but

444
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Speaker 2: for a lot of other heavyweights moving forward.

445
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Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you more man. I was not

446
00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,160
Speaker 4: so sold on Curtis Blaze. I knew that he had

447
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 4: potential to be a top five. Now I know that

448
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 4: he has potentially be a top five guy. I think

449
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 4: he's a guy who moves really well. You see that

450
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,159
Speaker 4: he's taking his career seriously. Now look to be in

451
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 4: tremendous shape. You look at the Curtis Blades that came

452
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 4: in as UFC debut as opposed to the guy now,

453
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 4: they look like two different men. This is a guy

454
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Speaker 4: who's confident now. I like the way he was switching

455
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 4: things up with his wrestling. Mark Hunt is not an

456
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 4: easy guy to take down, necessarily not at this point.

457
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Speaker 4: I thought that, you know, he came back from eating

458
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Speaker 4: a huge shot in that first round, was a beautiful

459
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Speaker 4: counter shot from Mark Hunt that would have knocked out

460
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Speaker 4: pretty much any heavyweight in the world.

461
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Speaker 3: It did not do that to Curtis Blade.

462
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Speaker 4: Curtis Blades has a tremendous beard and was able to

463
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Speaker 4: withstand that adapt astice game plan uses wrestling to take

464
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Speaker 4: him take Mark Hunt down repeatedly, and it.

465
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Speaker 3: Did it in Australia. So I was really impressed.

466
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Speaker 4: I think this Curtis Blades is someone really who could

467
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Speaker 4: definitely be a content in the near future.

468
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Speaker 2: And he was favored, as we've said on broadcast a

469
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 2: million times, in his UFC debut against Francis and Gano

470
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: at minus one fifty five and if that fight was

471
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Speaker 2: remade right now, I don't think they're gonna do it right.

472
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,440
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna give it ker of some kind,

473
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Speaker 3: you know what I.

474
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Speaker 2: Mean, Like a lot of people think right now, without

475
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Speaker 2: some market improvements by Francis and Ghano, Blades would take

476
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Speaker 2: him down and this time make him pay and probably

477
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 2: win that fight, probably be favored to win that fight.

478
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Speaker 3: So I'd like to see that rematch.

479
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Speaker 2: I don't think you need to see it anytime soon,

480
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 2: but I think this was a very encouraging sign for

481
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 2: the UFC heavyweight division, for Curtis Blades to come through

482
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Speaker 2: in this spot.

483
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Speaker 3: That it was very good matchmaking.

484
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Speaker 2: And even though the promotion doesn't always have a vested

485
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 2: interest or rarely has a vested interest on one side

486
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 2: or the other, this is a win for Blades upon

487
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Speaker 2: which you can build it. And I'm happy for Curtis

488
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 2: Blades and the Team Elevation guys as well.

489
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Speaker 3: A lot of sharp.

490
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Speaker 2: Minds out there, and I think they've got a heavyweight

491
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Speaker 2: with which to contend. Now I want to get to

492
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Speaker 2: Jake Matthews and Lee jing Lyong. I'm not sure if

493
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Speaker 2: you saw this fight, and I want to start with

494
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Speaker 2: the evolution of Jake Matthews. This is a guy who

495
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: entered the UFC at nineteen years old. He was five

496
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 2: to nine. Now he's like twenty three Kenny and he's

497
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: five eleven and a half. So we talk about the

498
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 2: physical maturation just in terms of the added muscle mass

499
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 2: and the confidence that he now has guys two and

500
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Speaker 2: a half inches taller than when he made his UFC debut.

501
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Speaker 2: So I thought he took the striking to a new

502
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Speaker 2: level this weekend and leave Jinglyong is not an easy

503
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Speaker 2: guy to fight. He had come in having won four

504
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: in a row. He just keeps stalking you down and

505
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: coming forward, throws everything heavy. And I thought this was

506
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: not unlike Curtis Blades, right, if you thought maybe the

507
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: ceiling on Jake Matthews was wasn't that high or was

508
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 2: a little bit lower than you previously thought. I'm a

509
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: big believer in Jake Matthews, and this was the type

510
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Speaker 2: of win that I'm not sure he was capable of,

511
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Speaker 2: you know, eighteen months ago.

512
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Speaker 3: Right, I would say this.

513
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Speaker 4: You know, I think for Jake Matthews, I think he's

514
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Speaker 4: maturing as a fighter. You look at look at how

515
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 4: he looks now. This guy is completely jacked. He looks

516
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 4: way bigger, and the way that he's acting in the

517
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: octagon now, he just seems way more comfortable as a fighter.

518
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Speaker 4: In regards to the technical skills, I think there was

519
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 4: some improvement. I think he's hitting harder. I think he's

520
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 4: a little bit more confident in his striking. I would

521
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Speaker 4: have liked to see better movement. I would have liked

522
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Speaker 4: to see him just stop trading in the pocket. There

523
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Speaker 4: was there was moments for me that I thought he

524
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Speaker 4: really was kind of throwing the dice there a little

525
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Speaker 4: bit trading with Leong in the pocket.

526
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Speaker 3: You know.

527
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Speaker 4: So I don't want to sho I don't want to

528
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Speaker 4: shoot you down here, but I think that could he

529
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Speaker 4: have been a little bit more techno. Could he have

530
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 4: showed better footwork? Yes, And I think he's heading into

531
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Speaker 4: that direction. I think he will head in that direction.

532
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Speaker 4: He's gonna be someone you're gonna have to watch. I

533
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 4: think he will break into the top ten eventually, uh

534
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 4: and be a threat. There's no doubt about it. This

535
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 4: guy is twenty three years old. He's only twenty three.

536
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 4: He's already had a bunch of the octagon. Made his

537
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 4: debut at what nineteen. I think when we called his

538
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: debut it's crazy, it's unbelievable. He has a very high ceiling.

539
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: He landed some nice countershots, there's no doubt about it.

540
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: But again, I would have liked to see more combinations.

541
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Speaker 4: I would have liked to see him maybe mix things up,

542
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 4: go to the body a little bit more. They're a

543
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 4: little bit more kicks. Lee Jing Leung isn't a world

544
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: beater if we're being honest. In my opinion, I don't

545
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 4: think he's a guy that, you know, we're supposed to

546
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 4: get super excited about if Jake Matthews beats him, and

547
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 4: I thought Jake maybe should have fought a little bit

548
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 4: better as far as take the guy down ling j

549
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 4: What kind of belt is is Jingleung?

550
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: In jiu jitsu? Is he a blue bike? And check?

551
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

552
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: Like that? I would have liked this. He dominated him

553
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: on the ground completely. He knocked him down in the

554
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 4: first round. He was all over him on the mat.

555
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: I think he could have taken the path of least resistance. Why,

556
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: because you have a certain you have a certain amount

557
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 4: of energy and lifespan in the sport. If you're expending

558
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: a lot of energy on a guy like Lee Jinglyung.

559
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 4: What do you have left when you start fighting a

560
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: guy like Donald Seroni or a Jafiel Dosanzos and those.

561
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Speaker 3: Guys, You know what I mean?

562
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Speaker 4: I feel like sure, But again, this is this is

563
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: how we mature as a fighter. You know how many

564
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 4: stupid mistakes I made during a fight, and how many

565
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: bad decisions I made, and my approach to training and

566
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 4: my strategy during a fight or whatever. We all make

567
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 4: those things. But so for Jake, I think this is

568
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 4: one of those fights. He's going to be happy to

569
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 4: get the win in his home country. He's gonna look

570
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 4: back at that and go, yes, I got a good win.

571
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 4: This is great. I'm developing as a fighter. Could I

572
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 4: have fought smarter one hundred percent? Could I have fought

573
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: a little bit more technical? Could I have taken less

574
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: damage in that fight?

575
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: Yes?

576
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 4: And also talk about his maturity to get eye gouged

577
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 4: during that guillotine and act like he was he was unfazed.

578
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: I thought that was a you know, a great way

579
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 4: to keep keep your head during a fight. And I

580
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 4: think he has a definite high ceiling.

581
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Speaker 2: And I want to talk about about the eye goug

582
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 2: but I just want to put a on what you said,

583
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: and yours is certainly a keener eye than mine when

584
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: it comes to the overall MMA game. I do think

585
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Speaker 2: sometimes there's a tendency maybe fighting at home, you feel

586
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: like you got a fight of the night on your hands,

587
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: so maybe to just throw caution to the wind. But

588
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: you're right if the endgame is that you want to

589
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: be a UFC champion, he ain't got any time for

590
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: that in UFC appearance number nine. So I understand it,

591
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: and your point is well taken in terms of the

592
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Speaker 2: eye goug So there are a lot of different layers

593
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: to this, right. I want to start with the fact

594
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: that Matthews Kenny was far more bothered by Lee jing

595
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: Leong grabbing his gloves.

596
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: Jake thought that was far.

597
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: More of an advantage getting thing that Jing Leung was doing,

598
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Speaker 2: and he immediately when I went to interview him after

599
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Speaker 2: the fight, I asked about the eye gouge and he

600
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: sort of immediately brought up the glove grab it.

601
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Speaker 3: I do think the eye gouge yea so.

602
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: Well, I will Jake dude, he couldn't give a shit

603
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: about the eye gouge, right, So everybody on Twitter is like,

604
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: oh my god, let's cut Lee jing Lyong from the roster,

605
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: and Jake Matthews couldn't give a rip about it, right,

606
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, well, I'd rather not grab my gloves,

607
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: you know. But so when Lee jing Leong is in

608
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: that show, right, I know there's some desperation as he's clawing.

609
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: I still don't think the eye gouge is defensible, right,

610
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: But I do think if there's any fighter who deserves

611
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt, I mean, I know Lee

612
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: jing Leong on a personal level. I mean, this is

613
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 2: a really nice young man. He didn't even know the

614
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: extent of what he was doing necessarily when he was

615
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: gouging the eye. I actually think that I don't think

616
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: it looked as bad. I mean, I don't think it

617
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: was as bad as it looked. It couldn't have looked worse.

618
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: I mean graphic gory replay, but obviously Matthews was largely

619
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: unfazed by it. I don't think Jing Leung should be

620
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: let off the hook. I don't necessarily agree with people

621
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 2: that think he shouldn't have gotten a bonus because of it,

622
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: even though there were guys who were deserving, like Tyson

623
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: Pedro and others. But I just was so impressed Kenny

624
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: with Jake Matthews just dusting this thing off like it

625
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: didn't happen when other fighters would have spent the rest

626
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 2: of the fight complaint one hundred percent. I agree and

627
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: again that that just shows his maturity as a fighter.

628
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 3: I was impressed man.

629
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: And the last thing I'll say on Jake Matthews in

630
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: terms of the ceiling is I just never envisioned him

631
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: a top ten guy, and I thought he turned that

632
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: corner for me this weekend.

633
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: I guess it remains to be seen.

634
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: I want to acknowledge ty Too Evasa with the knockout

635
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: of Sierra Lascare. Again, when you talk about new blood

636
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: in this heavyweight division, I thought with Blades and two Evasa,

637
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: that was a big weekend for the UFC.

638
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Serra Lascare is no world beater.

639
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: And it's interesting because I can't tell you how many

640
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Australians can he stop me on the street and they said, oh,

641
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: ty To Evasa is a light heavyweight, like we think

642
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: he can be champion. But yeah, you know the fact

643
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: that this guy who is maybe an inch taller than

644
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: me is cutting down to two hundred and sixty six pounds.

645
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: There's weight to lose there.

646
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: There's no denying the skills and the quickness with which

647
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: he is getting credentialed heavyweights out of there. But you know,

648
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: I think he's just as excited for the post fight

649
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: drink as he is for the fight, and I think

650
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: going forward that might be a problem.

651
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: I love it. That's hilarious, dude. Listen, man, this guy. Yeah,

652
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: he's built like a fire hydrant. Those elbows were nasty, dude,

653
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: Like his ability to just frame on your face and

654
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 4: throw elbow after elbow. I was loving it. You know,

655
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 4: anyone who throws an elbow, dude, I'm gonna be impressed.

656
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: Of course, it's a dying art. You got to bring

657
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: these elbows back, man, and listen, when you're short and

658
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: stocking and you're able to get on the inside. Landos

659
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 4: repeatedly and again to ask Air, I mean, how the

660
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 4: hell was he eating those shots? I mean, combination after combination,

661
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: elbow after elbow. He took a lot of punishment in

662
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: that fight. Thankfully, as soon as you tumbled into the canvas,

663
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: the referee finally decided uh to stop the fight.

664
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: But dude, brutal.

665
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if you were listening with the audio off,

666
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: and I won't be offended. But we talked last week.

667
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: Well did you hear I said stop the fight?

668
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: Right?

669
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: I did last week on our podcast. I did.

670
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: The only time I've ever said stopped the fight was

671
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: when when stevee was beaten on Mark con standing up

672
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: saying stop the fight. I heard that course you couldn't

673
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: been miraculate. Yeah, I mean, okay, now you just face Okay, okay.

674
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: Steve Percival has seen it not and he did like

675
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: a twirl.

676
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: It looked like a hurricane, kind of went to the

677
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: face and finally personal okay, yeah, now he's now he's done.

678
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

679
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: But Steve Percival, right, he's the only referee that gets

680
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: booed by these affable Australians. He's the only guy who

681
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: they he's a great guy. He is a great guy

682
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: and he you know, he loves the booze, right, he's

683
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: like booied.

684
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 3: By the crowd booing him.

685
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: But ty To Evasa just really a likable young man

686
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: and just a whole bond between Touyvasa and Tyson Pedro,

687
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: who will get to and Mark Hunt. All of these

688
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: guys they call Mark Hunt the lead horse. I mean,

689
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: it's just a they got a special thing going on.

690
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: And so you saying to Vasa, it's got he's a drunk,

691
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: is what you're saying is basically.

692
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: A little bit.

693
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: I mean, did you see did you happen to see

694
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 4: him drink the beer out do the shoey?

695
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: Did you? So? We showed it on pay per view.

696
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: So on his way back to the dressing room, he

697
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: shotgun to beer out of the shoe. Wow, one of

698
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: the fan sneakers. They do these shoeies, I guess in Australia.

699
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: And uh, so we were we were doing an on

700
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: camera on Yancey Maderis and Donald Crony, and I saw

701
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: in the isolation monitor that ty Toy Basso drinking a

702
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: beer out of shoe So I said, I think we

703
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: need to show that on broadcast. I'm glad we did

704
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: Tyson Pedro winner by Kimora over Safferbag Saffarrov.

705
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: Did you happen to catch that fight at all?

706
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 6: Uh?

707
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 3: That was the Saffarrov And yes, I did, I did,

708
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: I did?

709
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: Yes, So pretty nifty submission there. I don't know if

710
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: we called it right as a Kimora or somebody will

711
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: say double double shoulder lock or whatever you want.

712
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: To catch wrestlers. Yeah, that's the trendy thing to say.

713
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: That was not a kimorros a double shoulder lock. Shut up,

714
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: it's a all right.

715
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: I figured I had it down, so I asked kenfl

716
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: about the double shoulder lock. Either way, Tyson Pedro at

717
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: light heavyweight, this is the right division in which to

718
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: make a run. With all due respect to Daniel Cormier,

719
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Tyson, the submission of a very tough

720
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: safferbag Saffarrov, and where Tyson Pedro might go from here?

721
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: At two oh five, I thought Pedro looked tremendous and

722
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: he was my fighter to watch on UFCA guy for

723
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: a reason. I thought he looked really sharp man. Everything

724
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: he was doing, he looked very technical. He looked like

725
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: he was at a completely different level than Savarov, who

726
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: has a nice jab, who's very tough. This is another

727
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: tough Russian fighter from that area who uh is not

728
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: gonna quit very easily, and uh, you know, he was

729
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: eating a lot of shots. Pedro able to stop those

730
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: takedowns left and right, his ability to read those entries

731
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: was tremendous. Just seemed like everything he did he was

732
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: just a completely different class of fighters. So, uh, Tyson

733
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: Pedro once again proves he's somebody to watch man.

734
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: It was a tremendous submission.

735
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: I didn't know he had a submission game like that

736
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: looked sharp to me, absolutely, and.

737
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: A great post fight interview for him as he asked

738
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: on the Joe Rogan experience and said he was going

739
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: to make love to his beautiful wife and then the

740
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: mic drop things. So he wanted to drop the mic, right,

741
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: and so I kind of afforded him the opportunity to

742
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: drop it, but I didn't let it go all the

743
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: way to the ground, right, And he was not too

744
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: happy about that, obviously. So I happened to run into

745
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: him after the fight, and of course, and I have

746
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: a relationship with Tyson. I sat down with him a

747
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: little bit on Thursday, so he didn't come up to

748
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: me with any real anger. But you know, first thing

749
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: he says to me, he's like, oh man, He's like,

750
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: you didn't let me drop the mic. And thankfully our

751
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: producer Zach Candido was right there. I was like, talk

752
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: to that fucking guy, because they're the ones that you know.

753
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: When I first got hired, Kenny, and you know this

754
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 2: all too well, they said, whatever you do, Mike can't

755
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: relinquish the microphone. It's literally like giving a fighter the

756
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: control of the broadcast. So hold that thing like your

757
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: life depends on it. So you hold it pretty tight,

758
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: and you can't have the thing drop into the canvas necessarily.

759
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: It makes a big noise. The audio guy wants to

760
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: kill you, right, So, uh so it does now beg

761
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: the question. Right in the future, am I to allow

762
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: Mike drops? Maybe up, Maybe we'll figure it out. But

763
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: my apologies to Tyson if I got in the way,

764
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: You're yeah.

765
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: Hey, Tyson.

766
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: Sorry, John Annick has unbelievable reflexes. Dude, Sorry, he's that light. Yeah, okay,

767
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: all right, it's a nice try, dude, catch that shit.

768
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't that have been bad if I

769
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: went for it and it still had dropped to the canvas.

770
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: No, dude, you did a great job. Man. That was sick.

771
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate right there. Oh no, I don't know about that.

772
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: This is the first and only time in my life

773
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: would draw any comparison to Bruce Lee, So I would

774
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: love to spend five minutes on each of these guys

775
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: who had big wins on the prelims, but we don't

776
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: have the time. Israel out of Sonya. I know you

777
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: probably want to talk about him because you were on

778
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: the train beforehand. Alexander Volkanovsky, like seventeen and one is

779
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: a featherweight, played rugby at two hundred and fourteen pounds,

780
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: So have fun with that guy, not unlike Gregor Gillespia

781
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: one fifty five like you draw Volkanovsky, have fun with

782
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: that guy. And then for Juicy A for Mega Kenny.

783
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: I mean this was Ken flow. This is what Kenny did.

784
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: He would knock you down and then choke you unconscious. Right,

785
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: So in this case it was a spinning backfist or

786
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: back forearm that knocked Ben went down and eventually went

787
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: to his patented rear naked choke there. But prelim's really

788
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: got us in a good place for pay per view, Kenny,

789
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: and those three names were a big reason. Why who

790
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: would you like to talk about here on a Thursday?

791
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: Kid?

792
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: I mean, all those guys are great, let's talk about

793
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: I just sign ya, I just signya.

794
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: This guy is a monster man.

795
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 4: I love watching him fight whether it's Muay Thai, kickboxing

796
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: or MMA. This is a guy I've been watching for

797
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 4: a long time. He's got he's got a fun personality. Man,

798
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 4: he's got a lot of charisma, a lot of confidence.

799
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: You see stepping in the octagon like he's been there

800
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: a thousand times, has this whole routine, and it's not fake.

801
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: This is legit.

802
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: This is how he feels when he fights, and he

803
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: brings out that charisma, he brings out that personality.

804
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: He's a creative striker, and I think, listen, this was

805
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: just his debut.

806
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: You will see a lot more creativity and devastating striking

807
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 4: from a son.

808
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: I guarantee it. This is the guy we need to watch.

809
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: This is a guy who really who could come on

810
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: the scene and maybe be like kind of like Economer

811
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 4: Gregor in the future.

812
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm not joking. I don't know.

813
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 4: You know, as far as his wrestling at jiu jitsu

814
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 4: Goes doesn't need to be better. Yeah, absolutely so did Connors,

815
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: so does Anderson Silvers. But they were still taking out

816
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 4: on the feet left and right. So I think this

817
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: guy who's going to continue to improve. I think this

818
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: is a guy who might be a future champion in

819
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: that division. I think that highly of him. As far

820
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: as striking, there's no one who's going to be able

821
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: touch him in that division.

822
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: I think.

823
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: I think he's going to give a lot of people hell.

824
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: I agree, I think he could give people hell. Not

825
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: unlike I'm not comparing them stylistically, but Stephen Warner Boy

826
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: Thompson at one hundred and seventy pounds is one of

827
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: the more difficult matchups. Like Tyren Woodley, feels like that's

828
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: the toughest matchup for him in the division, and he's

829
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: gotten past it twice. And he didn't force the finish right, Like,

830
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: he didn't force the finish at all. He just showed

831
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: you the patience and the striking repetitions in his life.

832
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: He was just totally unfazed by this atmosphere and what

833
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: to do when you have an opponent on the ropes.

834
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: And in terms of the wrestling, Kenny Rob Wilkinson is

835
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: no world beater, but in an eight and a half

836
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: minute fight, he shot sixteen times right, So at the

837
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: very least right if you want to knock out a sonya,

838
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: he's still in his UFC DEBU had to stuff sixteen shots.

839
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: I think he shot ten times in the first round,

840
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: So I don't care who you are, UFC fighter is

841
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: going at your knees ten times in a round. It's

842
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: encouraging that you're able to either not get taken down

843
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: or get up almost immediately, as out of Sonya did.

844
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: And how about this guy signature move Kenny the Dog

845
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 2: sort of pissing all over the octagon right, he gets

846
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: up to the top of the stairs, unzips his fly

847
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: so to speak, and then marks his fucking territory, Like,

848
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: how come no UFC fighter has done that before. I

849
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: know that's not your style, but the style bender, how

850
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: is this guy.

851
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: The first guy to mark his territory with your The

852
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: ult Fighting Championship is hilarious, basically going yeah, this is mine,

853
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: This is mine, not just this, this whole area is my,

854
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: this is my sense I own you.

855
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

856
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: We will have more on the Perth pay per view

857
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: with Ray Longo coming up later. I just want to

858
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: say though, Western Australia is an amazing place. The people

859
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: are unbelievable. It's amazing how nice the people are there.

860
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: And then you go to Lax and how mean all

861
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: the TSA agents are you know, I feel bad for

862
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: people coming into our country to to JFK or LAX.

863
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: I guess I could say Logan Airport as well, but

864
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: a little bit. She just was like, where do you

865
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: think you're going.

866
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: I said, I have my Global entry pass, ma'am, and

867
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: she said not without me check And I said, you

868
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: were busy with somebody else you know, so, But it's

869
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: just I'm telling you immediate meanness. As soon as I

870
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,840
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896
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: you would tell Kenny Florian after the birth of his daughter.

897
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: At some point, I think we should do a mean

898
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: tweet segment on this show. I mean, we're trying not

899
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: to rip off of Jimmy Kimmel, but I could probably

900
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 2: publish a book of mean tweets, so there's certainly inventory there.

901
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: Should we decide to do that. Yeah.

902
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: I will also say I went on Bisping's podcast this week, Kenny,

903
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: and he basically said that when we did MMA Live

904
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: on ESPN two that he absolutely hated me, really and

905
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: not just hated me. And you know, we had Dan

906
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: Henderson as a co host. Maybe there was one time

907
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: where I said something that wasn't so nice. I think

908
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: really it was just him being overly sensitive, but he

909
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: circled back to it in the interview.

910
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: He's like, John, you don't understand.

911
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: I used to tell my wife that if I ever

912
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: see John Annak in the United States, I'm gonna punch

913
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: him in the face.

914
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: Right.

915
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: Oh here, I am thinking that we're pretty close and

916
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: we've gotten to this great place and he's cutting me

917
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: down every step of the way. And you know, so

918
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: I come down and say, I tell my wife, I

919
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: was like, Bisping like really disliked me. And I know

920
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: a lot of M fans can probably relate, but uh yeah,

921
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: check it out. Believe you me, Bisping fucking killing me

922
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: this week?

923
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: Did you did you say you're welcome for doing his podcast?

924
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: After that, it's like, you know what I mean, I mean,

925
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 4: come on, that's a good point.

926
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: I love the guy man and a few professional athletes

927
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 2: have inspired me more than that guy.

928
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: But that was hard to hear. I'm not gonna lie to.

929
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: He's a dick, but I love the guy, you know

930
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like that's the best way of describing this.

931
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: I just love you, all right.

932
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: Top ten things you would text Kenny Florian after the

933
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: birth of his daughter. Thanks to the fans for chiming in.

934
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Some of these are from the fans, some of these

935
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: are from me. And I know you got thick skins,

936
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: so you're not afraid, all right. Top ten things you

937
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: would text Kenny Flooryan after the birth of his Number ten,

938
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: congrats Kenny. If Kurt Pellegrino's appearance scares adults, though, you

939
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: may want to keep your daughter away from him, at

940
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: least for the time being.

941
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: It's already shot at Kurt Pellegrino, all right.

942
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: Number nine, congrats Kenny. Hope you'll be okay if she

943
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: hates jiu jitsu like John, but I know. Number eight,

944
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: congrats Kenny. She looks more like Clark and for that

945
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: we all are grateful, all right. Number seven, grats Kenny.

946
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: Better to have a girl than a boy with a

947
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: small penis. Am I right, I guess actually, I mean,

948
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: and reports are that wasn't necessarily gonna going to be

949
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: an issue one of my bosses at ESPN once.

950
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: Actually I'm not even good. Go all right.

951
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: Number six, Kenny, congratulations. Nothing like feeling a baby skin

952
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: against your face. Might be time to shave that patchy

953
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: beard off.

954
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife's trying to get me to shave now.

955
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, though it was at least once. Yeah,

956
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 2: you have to shave the whole thing so you can

957
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: experience that. You know, there's nothing like it. Maybe go

958
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: mustache out.

959
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: Of November next year, yes this year? Yeah, all right.

960
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: Number five in the top ten list of things you

961
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: would text Kenny floor And after the birth of his daughter, Congrats, Kenny,

962
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: it's about time. You're gonna be forty two in one

963
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: hundred days.

964
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: I really am gonna be forty two. Oh my god,

965
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: that's why did you remind me? And when you look

966
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: about you look good today. You look like thirty five

967
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: day over forty.

968
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: It's amazing though that May twenty six is actually one

969
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 2: hundred days from today.

970
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: On the fucking notes, Wow, all right, Number four, congrats Kenny.

971
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: Maybe let her turn one before you make her put

972
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: a gee on maybe, yeah, like, can she turned one

973
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: before you put a gey on?

974
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: Number three, congrats Kenny.

975
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: Swaddling is harder than tying your black belt, so good

976
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: luck with that.

977
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: It really is.

978
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: Actually number two, congrats Kenny, and condolences in advance if

979
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 2: she ends up dating a fighter that's not happening. And

980
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: the number one thing you would text Kenny Florian after

981
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: the birth of his daughter, Congratulations Kenny. Whatever you do,

982
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: do not make Pellegrino the godfough again with the pelagree

983
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: that's hilarious. Hey, just fancy missions. I'm fully on board

984
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: with number one. Uh, there's no I know Kurt Pellegrino

985
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: is the replacement groomsman whatever, there is no need to

986
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: make him the godfather.

987
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: That's so good, dude.

988
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: That's the top ten things you would text Kenny Florida

989
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: after the birth of his daughter. Some of them better

990
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: than others. You know, it's hard. I was like, do

991
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: I whittle it down to five or do I just

992
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: suck it up with a few that Maltenus one would

993
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: have ended up on the cutting room floor. But all right,

994
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: good stuff there, and of course we are all super

995
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: happy for you and have fun a little alien changing

996
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: those diapers.

997
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: Have fun with that over the next few weeks. Absolutely, Critzy, Okay,

998
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: that is out of the way. We got to spend

999
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: it forward Now to UFC Austin coming up this Sunday

1000
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: night on f S one. Let's make some picks. Time

1001
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 3: for the Main Event challenge.

1002
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: It's the main Event challenge.

1003
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: The time is most definitely I finished.

1004
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Well dwain the Main Event Challenge with John Nnick and

1005
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: Kenny Florian podcast.

1006
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: All right, so Team Mannicck led Team Flory in twelve six.

1007
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: Going into UFC two twenty one, gam Blue made picks

1008
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: for my squad against yours. You guys had a lot

1009
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: of the same picks. You hit on Jake Matthews as

1010
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: an underdog. Both picked up a couple points there. Both

1011
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: hit on Tyson Paedro, Tyitoo Ivasa. You both missed on

1012
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: Luke rockold h. He did get you on the Curtis

1013
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: Blades Mark Hunt fight though. So with that, Gamblue does

1014
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: win the week five for the lead for Team Annick

1015
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: now seventeen to ten. And before we get to the

1016
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: Austin picks, I just want to say, and our man

1017
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: Ben worts On hold, I appreciate your time. And I

1018
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 2: know we bumped the day this week, but so Abe Kawa, right,

1019
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: Malkikawa's brother, mixed martial arts manager, Joel Romero's manager. He's

1020
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: a good friend of mine, okay, But he comes up

1021
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: to me at the airport and he says, that's what

1022
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: you and Ken Flow get for.

1023
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: Picking rock Hold. You know, I don't pick.

1024
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: Bro And I'm like, all right, So so first of all, like,

1025
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: I don't even know that I've leaned on a fight

1026
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: since the two zero nine tattoo, which was March of

1027
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 2: two thousand and six. But Kenny and I have never

1028
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: picked a winner in a fight that we are calling ever, right,

1029
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: It's like sports broadcasting one oh one. You don't pick

1030
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: a winner when you're actually doing play by play or

1031
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: color on the sporting event. So I love you a

1032
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: but it was actually gamb Blue who picked against your boy,

1033
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: Yoel Romero. And it's also interesting too because you saw

1034
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: this betting line on this Romeo rock Hold fight change

1035
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: considerably after the way and seemingly Bunny coming in on

1036
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: Luke Rockold and I don't know if there's a short

1037
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 2: money or not.

1038
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: Also, your fighter, you know, a tremendous performance. He didn't

1039
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 4: make weight.

1040
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: Right, And I'm sure I sound hypocritical to a lot

1041
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: of people when I say that Yoel should get the

1042
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: next crack at Robert Whitaker when I'm banging on guys

1043
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: like Josh Emmittt getting the main event.

1044
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: So a lot of different layers to it, but I digress.

1045
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: UFC Austin picks and joining us today to play on

1046
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 2: behalf of Team Annik.

1047
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: We're happy to have him.

1048
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: Longtime supporter of the podcast, an Austin, Texas local Ben

1049
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: Wurtz is with us.

1050
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: Ben, my man, how are you today?

1051
00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 6: Doing well? How about you? Guys?

1052
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: We are doing well?

1053
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: So as I understand it, your job is going to

1054
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: prevent you from going to the fights this weekend.

1055
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1056
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 6: I think so?

1057
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 7: But I'm actually looking for some tickets. Now, I work

1058
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 7: in event planning, so a lot of times I'm busy

1059
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 7: on the weekends during the fights, but I actually have

1060
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 7: some time off this week, I think, so I'm gonna

1061
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 7: try to find some cheap tickets and see if I

1062
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 7: can't get over there.

1063
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: Nice all right, Well, let me see what I can do.

1064
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: Maybe call in a favor depending on how you do today,

1065
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: because I don't know that the UFC is in Austin

1066
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: all that often, and if you can get the time,

1067
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to find a way to get

1068
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: in the building. So we'll talk after the show, Ben,

1069
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: but we got to make some picks here and the

1070
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 2: first fight we're going to dissect on this main card.

1071
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: So here is James Vick eight and one in the UFC.

1072
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 2: He'll remind you of that fact every chance he gets.

1073
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: He's the minus two thirty five favorite here against Francisco Trinaldo,

1074
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: who is the plus one eighty five underdog. Now Masarran

1075
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: dub has also won eight of his last nine. It's

1076
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: hard for me to recall him Kenny being in this

1077
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: type of price range as a plus one eighty five underdog.

1078
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: Perhaps it's because thirteen of his sixteen UFC fights, including

1079
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 2: the last four, have taken place in Brazil. This one

1080
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: is in Texas, James Vick's home state. Ben, big fight

1081
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: here at one hundred and fifty five pounds. You going

1082
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: with James Vick or Francisco Toernaldo.

1083
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 6: I'm going with James Vick.

1084
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 7: I know he stands pretty upright, and he's pretty hittable,

1085
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 7: and Toernaldo is throwing some slide chambers at him, so

1086
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 7: I think he needs to be careful and keep it,

1087
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 7: you know, stay outside of the boxing range, stay in

1088
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 7: a kickboxing range, and try and keep it there. If

1089
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 7: it does go to the ground, I think he needs

1090
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 7: to be proactive about getting up off the ground. I

1091
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 7: don't think he needs to stay on the bottom trying

1092
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 7: to fight there, because that's how he's going to lose

1093
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 7: a decision to Chronaldo. I think Toernaldo's got you know,

1094
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 7: he's got good power, nice counter left.

1095
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 6: But I think ultimately James Vick keeps it at his.

1096
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 7: Distance, he wins the striking battle and takes that decision,

1097
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 7: and I think he probably moves to the top ten

1098
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 7: after this fight.

1099
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: Kenny James Vick the minus two to thirty five favorite here.

1100
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: James Vic bets on UFC, fights more than any fighter

1101
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: on the roster, and more often than not he hits.

1102
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's gonna love this price on himself.

1103
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: Kind of prohibitive at minus two thirty five. I thought

1104
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 2: he'd be around minus one seventy five or so, so

1105
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: I was off when it came to handicapping this fight.

1106
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: I still believe Vic deserves to be favored your thoughts

1107
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: on who gets their hand raised this weekend.

1108
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I thought Ben made some good analysis there.

1109
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 4: I think, you know, for poor Francisco Toronaldo, the one

1110
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 4: guy that's really bigger than him in that division is

1111
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: James Vic.

1112
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: James Vick is huge for the division.

1113
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 4: Not only is he tall at like six foot three,

1114
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: but he gets pretty big in the offseason.

1115
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: FYI.

1116
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: But he's a guy who's a true professional. I think

1117
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 4: he's gonna try to use that link to keep Tronaldo

1118
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: on the outside. I think that's going to confuse Tronaldo.

1119
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: If Tronaldo catches him and he can, it's gonna be early.

1120
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's gonna be able to do it.

1121
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: I think James Vic wins this fight all right.

1122
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: Comin event marks the return of the Black Beast, the one,

1123
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: the only Derek Lewis. Now the fights in Austin, not Houston.

1124
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: But this is a home game for Lewis. Figures to

1125
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: have plenty of support in the building here on Sunday night.

1126
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 3: Maybe he'll need it.

1127
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 2: Plus one thirty underdog here against the minus one sixty

1128
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: favorite Mark Sheen Tabora. Ben looks like a pick him

1129
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: fight to me. Maybe a little bit of value at

1130
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: least in our scoring system with Derek Lewis. Your thoughts

1131
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: on the heavyweight co headliner this weekend in Austin.

1132
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 6: Well unpopular opinion.

1133
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 7: I think that this might actually be kind of a

1134
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 7: slow fight and probably could go to a decision. But

1135
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 7: being that it's Derek Lewis, I'm going to go ahead

1136
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 7: and go a second round knockout. It's in Texas, it's

1137
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 7: close to home. I don't think it's really going to

1138
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 7: be on the ground very much. I've been watching some

1139
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 7: of the last fights and I don't really think if

1140
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 7: anyone goes to the ground, Derek Lewis is going to

1141
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 7: take to burrow to the ground, I think. But I

1142
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 7: think it's going to stay on the feet, and I

1143
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 7: think Derek Lewis probably gets to the second round knockout.

1144
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: Notice my guy Ben Wertz watching film to make picks today.

1145
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: We like the film study.

1146
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 2: Can flow to bora minus one sixty here against Derek Lewis.

1147
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: You know who still needs to do film study? This

1148
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 3: guy over here.

1149
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: Okay, a little behind by the way, So I'm on

1150
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: my pick.

1151
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 3: Might change, my picks, might change, bye bye. By tomorrow.

1152
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 3: In the next couple of days.

1153
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 4: But uh, you know what, I'm gonna go with Tybora

1154
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: here put a check mark by his name. I think

1155
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 4: he gets it done. I think Derek Lewis is the

1156
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 4: more dangerous striker. I think if he's gonna if there's

1157
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: gonna be a finish on the feat, it's most likely

1158
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: gonna be Derek Lewis.

1159
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 3: But Marchine Tibora.

1160
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: He's got a great chin, he knows how to survive,

1161
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: he knows how to move. I think he might mix

1162
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: things up. I think he's gonna be a little bit

1163
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 4: better on the ground as well. If he hits some takedowns.

1164
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: I think it would serve him well. But uh yeah,

1165
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: let's go with Tyboro.

1166
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: And Ken Flow will be on the desk this weekend.

1167
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: And and don't give him shit if he changes his picks, right,

1168
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: I know we're not making picks on money.

1169
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: But he doesn't coount for the show. I lose this guy.

1170
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 3: Guy's got like a six day old daughter.

1171
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: So if you were watching film, I mean, let me

1172
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: get the fight card right like, if you're watching, if

1173
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,720
Speaker 2: you're watching Tim Williams film, right now, with all due respect,

1174
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: you gotta do a pop up for Tim Williams this

1175
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 2: weekend on the way in show, I'd rather you pay

1176
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: attention to your daughter.

1177
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: I know she sleeps a lot, but that's just me,

1178
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: all right.

1179
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: Main event, Donald Cowboy Seroni, trying to avoid it, says

1180
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: here a fourth straight loss, he is favored to do

1181
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: just that minus one sixty against the plus one thirty

1182
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: underdog Yancy Maderis.

1183
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 3: Maderis has won three in a row.

1184
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: No one will soon forget his fight with Cowboy Olivera

1185
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: last year, given though the way that fight went, it's

1186
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: a pretty quick turnaround for Yancy. Ben need the round

1187
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: and the method of victory here. For the Austin main event,

1188
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: you go in Seroni or Maderis and how do they

1189
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: get it done?

1190
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 6: All right?

1191
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 7: Well, I think dudgeon off Nancy's last fight. I think

1192
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 7: it's gonna be a pretty tough fighter Cowboy. The fight

1193
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 7: against Till was pretty telling. I don't think cowboys necessarily

1194
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 7: all the way into it every time. He doesn't seem

1195
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 7: to care about whin in or losing every time.

1196
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 5: Just like it in the check.

1197
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 7: In terms of Madero's He's coming off that fight of

1198
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 7: the Year candidate with Olivera. It was a brutal fight,

1199
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 7: but you know, it was a great fight and he

1200
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 7: came out on top. Cowboy hasn't been trying to go

1201
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 7: to the ground as much lately, and I think it's

1202
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 7: going to be kind of a stand in bank kind

1203
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 7: of fight. I think he can rock Yanty and possibly

1204
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 7: finish on the ground like Barbosa, but I think it's

1205
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 7: probably going to be the beginning of the end. He

1206
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 7: doesn't seem, like I said, like he cares about winner losing.

1207
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna stay.

1208
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 6: In the fight, maybe for the first two rounds, but after.

1209
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 7: That, I think Yancey is probably going to overwhelm them

1210
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 7: and finish him with the kind of body shot in

1211
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 7: third round.

1212
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: All right, TKO Round three for Yancey Maderis is the

1213
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: pick for Ben Works and hopefully cowboys not listening. Ben,

1214
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: He'll be coming for you in Austin. But no, you

1215
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: bring up a lot of good points, obviously, and I

1216
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: think this is really the right fight at the right

1217
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: time for Seroni to prove that if he can still

1218
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: hang with this division's elite. This is a fight that

1219
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: he's favored to win and a fight that a lot

1220
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: of people think he should win. Madera's a tough guy

1221
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 2: to fade Kenny obviously in his current form.

1222
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: How do you see a plan out this weekend?

1223
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's the problem, you know, I could see

1224
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 4: why Ben made that pick. I think Yancey is coming

1225
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 4: in with a lot of momentum here, a guy who

1226
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 4: has a tremendous chin, showed unbelievable determination against the other

1227
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: cowboy cowboy, Oliver Era. I don't know if he can

1228
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 4: beat this Donald Soroni, though. I think Donald Serni is

1229
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 4: gonna be fired up. I think Serny's got to use

1230
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: his kicking game. I think that's gonna be the difference here.

1231
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 4: But Madero's is gonna be smart. I think He's gonna

1232
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 4: try to pressure and back Seroni up, really try to

1233
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: get into boxing range land a lot of shots. I

1234
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 4: know Seroni's been busy filming other stuff and he's you know,

1235
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 4: always doing something. So yeah, some people are questioning, hey,

1236
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 4: does he still want to be a fighter? Does he

1237
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: still you know, have that same kind of spark when

1238
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: he goes out and trains. I think, you know, at

1239
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: the end of the day on fight night, Seroni will

1240
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 4: show up. I think he gets a stoppage in the

1241
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 4: second round. I'm a huge Ynsy Madeira's fan. I love

1242
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 4: the way he fights, I love his his warrior spirit,

1243
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 4: and I think he's a different fighter now training with

1244
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 4: guys like Max Holloway and but I think Seroni still

1245
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 4: has the edge here. I see a finish. Let's go

1246
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: with second round.

1247
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Seroni by TKO round two for the

1248
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: flow and again, perhaps that'll change anything that could happen

1249
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: between now and then, that might change your main event

1250
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: for events, I don't know.

1251
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: I feel pretty confident with with Serni, but.

1252
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: You gotta watch the way in show, folks, you gotta

1253
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: watch the pre fight show. You just got to ingest

1254
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: as much can flow as you can. I don't think

1255
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: we're not bringing the baby to the Fox lot this weekend.

1256
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, okay, Yeah, keep Steve Becker as far away

1257
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: from that baby's eyes at least for as many weeks

1258
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: as you can. All right, quick picks here on the

1259
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: way out. Don't need any analysis here. If you want

1260
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: to give me your two cents, feel free, But these

1261
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: are just for the record. So Tiago Alvez minus won

1262
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: sixty five against Curtis Millander, who is plus one thirty five.

1263
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 2: So Alvez he was scheduled to fight Platinum Mike Perry,

1264
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: the hurricane down here prevented him from doing that. You

1265
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: remember his dog passed away tragically in that whole scenario.

1266
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: Then he was to face Zach Cummings in Saint Louis

1267
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 2: in January. Commings couldn't make the walk because he felt

1268
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: getting out of the tub during his weight cut. So

1269
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: now Alves draws this UFC newcomer, Curtis Millander, big opportunity,

1270
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: and the line tells you it's a pretty close fight.

1271
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: Millander's won six in a row.

1272
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 2: Back to back headkick knockouts in LFA, Ben Millander or Alvez?

1273
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: Who will it be?

1274
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 6: Millander head kick knockout?

1275
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: Probably ooh a third Ken flow Millander Alvez? Who do

1276
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 3: you like? I'm gonna go with Elvis? Okay, all right?

1277
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 3: Also on tap, Brandon Davis second UFC appearance overall for him,

1278
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: second in as many months, went three hard rounds with

1279
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 3: Kyle Bockniak in Boston January twentieth, and now he is

1280
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: the minus one twenty five favorite here against Stephen Peterson,

1281
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 3: a UFC newcomer who many of you saw on Dana

1282
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: White's Tuesday I Contender series, Ben, you go on Peterson

1283
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: or Davis here.

1284
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 7: I'm actually gonna go Davis, even though short notes by

1285
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 7: Peterson doesn't really have great striking defense. It gets hit

1286
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 7: pretty easy, and he gets hit a lot, So I

1287
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 7: think it's going to be Davis by a kind of

1288
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 7: knockout the first second round.

1289
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Those Mississippi kids are fighters, man, I'm telling you quick.

1290
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 3: They don't care. They'll fight every weekend. Kenny, Davis or Peterson?

1291
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: Who I'm gonna go with Davis as well? All right?

1292
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 2: And then finally super Stage north Cut the prohibitive minus

1293
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: two sixty five favorite against t bo GOUTI who is

1294
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 2: plus two ten?

1295
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: Ben? Who will it be for you? There? My man?

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Speaker 6: I got Sage north Cut. I think he's probably gonna

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Speaker 6: get some kind of submission.

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: Kennthlo, You ain't picking against super Stage your submission?

1299
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 4: He says, Oh, maybe I'm gonna go with I'm gonna

1300
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 4: go with Sage as well.

1301
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: Yeah is bod, Dude?

1302
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 5: Is Bod?

1303
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1304
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: All right, Ben Wurtz, Hopefully you can find a way

1305
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 2: in the building this weekend. We appreciate your time, your insight,

1306
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: your support of the show man and thank you for

1307
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: hopping on with us today on a problem. Thanks for

1308
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: having me, guys, Ben Wurtz, our guest picker for Team

1309
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: Annik here today. Kenny, you know what else there is

1310
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: on this fight card UFC Fight Night Cowboy versus maderis, Oh,

1311
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: you got way in show Saturday, Fight Night Sunday, So

1312
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: that's nice. So, I don't know if it's for the

1313
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: first time in UFC history, I reached out to our researcher.

1314
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm your bassy because on the f S one prelims

1315
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 2: flow we got Roberto Sanchez versus Joby Sanchez, Sanchez, the Sanchez.

1316
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: That's the first times that I don't know, I reached

1317
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: out to our researcher.

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00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: And I must not be high enough up on the

1319
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: VIP list.

1320
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna go out in a lemon just say

1321
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 4: that Sanchez is going to win that fight.

1322
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: So for the for purposes of it being Sanchez versus Sanchez,

1323
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: you want Roberto or you want Joby.

1324
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm kind of a little bit tied to Joby, my buddy,

1325
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: a guy I used to box with, a guy I

1326
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: used to train with a lot.

1327
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 3: Matt Finny from the Boston And sure, I know the

1328
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 3: name Matt Yea.

1329
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: He he's been helping him out with his boxing and

1330
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: his striking work. So you know, I'm kind of leaning

1331
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: towards Joby, but I will readily admit I'm very biased

1332
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 4: in that decision.

1333
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: All Right, you can see it all play out.

1334
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: UFC Fight Night, Cowboy versus Madera's nine pm Eastern time

1335
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: for the main card this Sunday night on FS one.

1336
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: All right, one final act today, let's get to Raymond

1337
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: Peter Longo.

1338
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: Is now time for the Ray Longo Minute.

1339
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna punch a hole in this fucking shot.

1340
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: That's what you want with the Ray Long Minute.

1341
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: Dray Long the.

1342
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

1343
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know if we have the great Ray

1344
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: long Ago yet, but I thought this result there he is.

1345
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: We do have Ray Long Yeah, and good yellow is

1346
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: a good color for you, sir.

1347
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 5: How we doing?

1348
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I can hear you now, maybe they

1349
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 2: can pot you up a little bit. So I didn't

1350
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: know if we had you on. I was just saying

1351
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: this this Romero rock Hole fight. I obviously want to

1352
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts on it, but I ran

1353
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: into your buddy, Chris Wyman there in Perth, Western Australia,

1354
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: and I said to him right after the fight, it's

1355
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: probably a good result if you're on team Widman in

1356
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: terms of the pecking order at one hundred and eighty

1357
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: five pounds.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I would think, I mean, I don't think he

1359
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 8: could ask to be in a better spot right.

1360
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 9: Now that that.

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00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, that it's been turned on its head, and you know,

1362
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 8: he's one fight away from a title shot to sure,

1363
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 8: I think, you know, and maybe even closer. Who knows

1364
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 8: the way this thing shakes out or how healthy Whittaker

1365
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 8: is what happens with that, but uh, you know, but

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Speaker 8: I could see, you know, a fight.

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 5: With him and.

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Speaker 8: JOCKO Ray and then the winner of that gets the

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00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 8: winner of whoever. I think Dana already announced that Romero

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 8: is getting the shot, so I could see that, you know,

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Speaker 8: I could see the winner of that fight getting the

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Speaker 8: winner of that fight.

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Speaker 5: So I think he's I think he's right in the

1374
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 5: mix again, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris was kind of yapping a lot, saying he wants,

1376
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: he wants to get that fight. He believes that, you know,

1377
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: he wants to go in there against one of the

1378
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: top guys and and who do you think he's gonna

1379
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 4: fight next?

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Speaker 5: I would I would think, I mean if theina.

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00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 8: I think Dana already said that Romero gets the shot

1382
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Speaker 8: at Whittaker.

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00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: No, but for Wideman, sorry, oh.

1384
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 5: I would think he gets jock O.

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Speaker 8: Ray is the guy not going to give him Kelvin

1386
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 8: who's right behind him because he already beat him.

1387
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 5: So I think the only guy he hasn't thought yet

1388
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 5: is Jock Ray. And then I think after that, it's

1389
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 5: it's a title shot.

1390
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Speaker 3: Gotcha? And and Ray, I just want to thank you, man.

1391
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 4: I got this call from New York on my cellphone

1392
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I was gonna decline it.

1393
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: I decided to accept it. And who is it?

1394
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 4: It's RPL Raymond Peter Longo congratulating me calling me, uh, congratua.

1395
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, my friend. I really appreciate time, man.

1396
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 5: And I think that's a big, big milestone in your life.

1397
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 8: And I hope you cherish it and enjoy it because

1398
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 8: it's is truly something special. And I told you, just

1399
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 8: a father of two girls, anything you need, any advice.

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01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 3: You need, huh, thank you man.

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01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 8: I appreciate touch with my wife because I have no

1402
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 8: going on the list.

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01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 5: Twenty years.

1404
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: That's great, you could talk to hers, all right, I will.

1405
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: Well, So Ken Flow's not like screaming from the rooftops

1406
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: looking for Instagram likes the minute. He has a kid, right,

1407
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: so it's not like everybody knew this news. But we

1408
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,479
Speaker 2: moved the show from Wednesday to Thursday. So I'm checking

1409
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: in with long ago. I'm like, hey, you know, Kemflow

1410
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: had his baby girl, and so I gave out you know,

1411
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: I gave out of five oh eight, right like I

1412
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: gave out Ken Flow's number. I don't do that very much.

1413
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: And he took the call. See if that says John

1414
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: Annick Ray. I don't know if he takes that call.

1415
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: So maybe the anonymous thing worked in your favor.

1416
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 5: John, I will say this, he picked up that phone

1417
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 5: very hesitantly. He has no idea what.

1418
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 3: Did it good?

1419
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 8: We could have had a good frank because he was

1420
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 8: they definitely uncertain. And then I just started screaming into

1421
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 8: the phone like a lunatic.

1422
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 5: So he made him feel better.

1423
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: My spidy senses were tingling. I was like, this is

1424
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: a friend on the other side.

1425
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: Yes see, I always give Kenny shit as a Bostonian

1426
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: for being too nice to New Yorkers tweeting like I

1427
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: love New York. Right, He's got like clothing that says

1428
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: New York, which for me is a bossing guy. There's

1429
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: nothing in my closet that says New York. Right and

1430
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: so but so he gets a call from a New

1431
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: York number, like of course he takes it right, like

1432
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: him forbid Anez Florian's calling from six one seven takes.

1433
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 3: A call from new two days after having a kid.

1434
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 5: I'm glad he picked up.

1435
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 3: That's funny.

1436
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 5: We had a nice chat.

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01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 8: And again, I think it's a it's a great thing

1438
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 8: and it's it's a it's a game change, if is

1439
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 8: sure us? So I didn't want to I didn't want

1440
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 8: to tweet. I didn't want a text. I think that

1441
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 8: that's that's an event that deserves a one on one count.

1442
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, that's very cool of you.

1443
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: So quick thoughts on the Romero rock Hold fight if

1444
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: you saw it, uh, And I know how much respect

1445
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: you have for these guys as fighters. You prepared fighters

1446
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: on multiple occasions to fight them. But obviously you did

1447
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: predict Luke Rockhold would win this fight. There are a

1448
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: lot of different circumstances that happened during fight week you

1449
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: Romero missed weight, but ultimately your thoughts on how this

1450
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: fight played out and and where maybe Luke Rockold might

1451
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: go from here?

1452
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 8: Uh. I think Luke Rockold's right now. He's got He's

1453
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 8: in a little bit of trouble. But I did have

1454
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 8: him win in that fight, and I thought, if he

1455
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 8: could you know, you know, it looked.

1456
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 5: Like he showed signs with the jib.

1457
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 8: If he if he could have been consistent and back

1458
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 8: that up with a couple of things, he might have

1459
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 8: been been all right. But I got to tell you, man,

1460
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 8: Romero un orthodox relaxed. The biggest mistake Luke made. I

1461
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 8: think he let Romero dictate the pace of that fight. Yeah,

1462
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 8: I would have thought he tried to guess him out

1463
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 8: a little bit, push it quicker pace and then finish

1464
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 8: it like that while Romero got tired. But he really

1465
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 8: let him control the pace and he let him fight

1466
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 8: in spurts. And Rockell just has trouble fighting going backwards.

1467
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 5: Man, there's nothing to it. He backs up in a

1468
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 5: straight line, and with a.

1469
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 8: Guy that can punch hard, he could close his eyes

1470
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 8: and throw punches.

1471
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 5: And hit you know what I mean? So there, what times.

1472
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,479
Speaker 8: He did have some nice movement where he circled away

1473
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 8: from the cage, but for the most part, going backwards

1474
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 8: for Luke Rockhold is not where he wants to be

1475
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 8: at all.

1476
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: Right, And I would love to sort of ask you

1477
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: what Wadman's game plan was going in, but that's a

1478
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: fight that's going to resurface, and out of respect, I

1479
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: really don't want to have that conversation, So I'll leave

1480
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: you with this.

1481
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: Did you ever see Kenny and me on MMA Live

1482
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 3: on ESPN two when we were on TV back in

1483
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 3: the day doing a weekly news and information show.

1484
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say no, So we were on.

1485
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: That's okay, No, that's okay.

1486
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: So we were on in the UK in the United

1487
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: Kingdom for six months before we ever hit TV in

1488
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: the US.

1489
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 3: Right.

1490
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 2: So I go on Michael Bisping's podcast yesterday and he says,

1491
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: he goes, not only did I really hate you on

1492
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: that show, but I hated you to such an extent

1493
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: that I told my wife that if I ever saw

1494
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: you in person, I'll take the assault charges.

1495
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: I would have punched you in the face.

1496
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 8: That's why I love that guy. Wow, I didn't know

1497
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 8: you could have such an effect on people, John, that's crazy.

1498
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I was acutely aware of the fact

1499
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: that I could have that type of effect on people.

1500
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: You just don't expect to hear it from one of

1501
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: your your dear friends several years after the fact. But

1502
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm glad he saved it for a podcast platform so

1503
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: you could get my organic reaction to uh, to being

1504
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: really legitimately vilified and hated by someone who.

1505
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: I have a great deal of respect for. What are

1506
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: you gonna do?

1507
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 5: That is unbelievable? That is that is really you gotta

1508
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 5: love that guy, man, he shoots from the hip.

1509
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course, Hey.

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 8: Real, before we forget, I want to throw one thing

1511
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 8: in that I think. I can't believe this is. I

1512
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 8: think it's gotten some attention, but not I don't think

1513
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 8: the proper retention that Matthews fight with that Yes, his

1514
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 8: eyes gouged out.

1515
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 5: I don't know. Well, I don't know how this.

1516
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 8: Guy's not suspended and a few and no, I didn't

1517
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 8: see it completely, but I saw a retched legs.

1518
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 5: He was standing right, Oh, I mean he had.

1519
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: He even said it.

1520
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 4: He verbally said, get your hands out of out of

1521
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 4: his eyes.

1522
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 8: What do you when you look at that replay, Kenny,

1523
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 8: that is is on real that guy did.

1524
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 5: In today's day and age. Yeah, there was just absolutely

1525
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 5: no place for that.

1526
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 8: And I mean, I commend Matthews for being a gentleman,

1527
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 8: but I gotta tell you, man, anything short of his

1528
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 8: suspension for that I think is not right. And they

1529
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 8: give the guy to the bonus for that. I don't

1530
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 8: I don't know what I'm even thinking, but that was

1531
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 8: that was brutal, man.

1532
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 5: He had like both hands.

1533
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, there's gonna be a time you're

1534
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 8: gonna look up skull fucking and it's gonna tell you

1535
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 8: that that's how.

1536
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 5: Bad it was.

1537
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 8: It wasn't even there was no even hiding it. I'm

1538
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 8: just gonna pluck out your eyeballs.

1539
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: So the referee in question, Mark Simpson, had a good

1540
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: angle right, and he said after the fact, he's like,

1541
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: you know, if it happens again, you're going to be

1542
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 3: doctor point. It was like, if you take that eye

1543
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 3: out of his head, Yeah, I'm gonna stop the fun.

1544
01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 3: My biggest issue with it. Yeah yeah, fight deduction.

1545
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jimmy Smith said on the broadcast, maybe if he

1546
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: gets a third finger in the eye, they'll they'll take

1547
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: a point away.

1548
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 3: But Ray, there are a lot of different angles to this.

1549
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: First of all, obviously Jake Matthews, as you heard in

1550
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: our post fight interview, being more put off by the

1551
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 2: fact that Jing Leung was grabbing his gloves than actually

1552
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: the eye gouge.

1553
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: Right, that's part of the equation.

1554
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: I do think that on TV it looked worse than

1555
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: it actually was, even though I'm not trying to defend

1556
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: the act, Right, I was surprised that they gave him

1557
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: a bonus when they could have just given Jake Matthews

1558
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: a performance bonus and then given one to Tyson Pedro

1559
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 2: or somebody else.

1560
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 3: Right, But at what point do you give an inherently

1561
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 3: clean fighter who maybe didn't even know what he was

1562
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 3: doing here trying to get out of a guillotine choke? Right?

1563
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 2: At what point do you give that fighter the benefit

1564
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: of the doubt and not just suspend him when he's

1565
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: trying to fight off a choke in an mm A contest.

1566
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 5: Ray, Now, well, that's what makes it bad is that

1567
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 5: he was in a bad position.

1568
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 8: Like when you have you know, like fighting, and you

1569
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 8: extend your hand and the fingers are open. The guy

1570
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 8: comes in and he gets eyephoked that that's more to

1571
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 8: me like an accident. But when a guy has you

1572
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 8: in a in a submission hold where you're gonna lose

1573
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 8: the fight and you resort to that, that's when I

1574
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 8: think you have to step in, you know what I mean?

1575
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 2: No, I agree, And and the fight should have been

1576
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 2: stopped right there. And as we said on the broadcast,

1577
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 2: even if Lee jing Leung had gone on to knock

1578
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: Jake Matthews out, every commission in the world is gonna

1579
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: overturn that and make it a DQ win for Matthews

1580
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: or at worse, make it in no contest. So once

1581
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 2: that foul happened, Lee Jingleung was not walking out of

1582
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: there with a win.

1583
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 8: So John, you have to send a message so that

1584
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 8: doesn't happen again.

1585
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, So I might as well do it.

1586
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 8: Let me stick, Let me stick my thumb in the

1587
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 8: guy's eye. And what am I What am I gonna lose?

1588
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not gonna tap let go, and then

1589
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 8: I'm gonna you know, I'm not, maybe not.

1590
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 5: Even get reprimanded, lose a point. I don't know.

1591
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 8: So I think that's the time to jump in, said

1592
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 8: an example, because from the TV, and I wasn't there.

1593
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 5: You're bringing up a good point, you know. He it

1594
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 5: just it looked pretty bad.

1595
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 8: I was like, oh wow, I want to rep Legs,

1596
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 8: like like, what are you looking that?

1597
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 5: Buddy?

1598
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 8: You gotta jump in there, grab his hands, do something.

1599
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 8: I thought, you know, and I wonder if Matthew's just

1600
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 8: the emotion of everything, you know, downplay it. I mean,

1601
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 8: we know he's tough us, he's a tough as nails.

1602
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 8: But I don't know, man, maybe you're right, maybe it

1603
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 8: wasn't as bad, but you know, so he gets the

1604
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 8: bonus and it gives certificate the Sterling optical Huh.

1605
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: I'm really not trying to minimize it, right, I feel

1606
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: like Matthews, he's trying to execute a choke. So again

1607
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: he was more focused on the glove grabbing, which he

1608
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: thought was giving Jingling an advantage.

1609
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 3: Right.

1610
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: I think with all of these fouls, I know, the

1611
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 2: eye gouge was very graphic and if you show it

1612
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: to casual MMA fans forget about it.

1613
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: Right, an awful visual.

1614
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: But all of these fowls, right, there's not they're not

1615
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 2: the incent devised enough to grab the fence. You know,

1616
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: you you grab the fence one time in a fight

1617
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: and prevent a takedown as Tyred Woodley did one time

1618
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 2: agains Steven wonder Boy Thompson. You know, you prevent one

1619
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: little thing from happening in a fight, and it can

1620
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: be the difference in winning and losing.

1621
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 8: So out of down and I'm sure back in the

1622
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 8: truck they were saying, let's give this guy the bonus.

1623
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 8: This could be a big lawsuit coming. Let's let's make

1624
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 8: him happy.

1625
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1626
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you knew Jake was getting a bonus

1627
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: one way or the other, but I wasn't.

1628
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: I was with you. I was.

1629
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: I was very surprised to see the leech get a bonus.

1630
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: All right, my man, Well, thanks for thanks for the time.

1631
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: We're right back at it here on Monday, so you know,

1632
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: keep that flip phone handy, Okay.

1633
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 5: And Kenny, congrats again, buddy, Hope.

1634
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks so much. I'll be working the desk with

1635
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: your guy Chris Wyman this weekend. So excited about that. Yeah,

1636
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 4: and it's in Texas. We'll be in Los Angeles, but yeah,

1637
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 4: the fights are in Austin.

1638
01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 5: Oh great, all right, awesome buddy, So thank you, buddy.

1639
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: All right, there he is the great Ray Longo, Ray

1640
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 2: Long go minute every week here on the Anak and

1641
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 2: Florian podcast. Chris Widman won't be in the lead analysts seat. Incidentally,

1642
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: Kenny'll be in that seat, but Chris Wim will be

1643
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: on the end of the desk there as an analyst

1644
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 2: this week. So sis, I saw him in Perth. Wait

1645
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: till you see the scar on that thumb. Just try

1646
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: to look out it out of the corner. I saw

1647
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 2: it in New York.

1648
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 5: Dude.

1649
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

1650
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, beast, but no excited to have Wyman

1651
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 2: on the desk. He's really evolved into a good analyst

1652
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 2: and look forward to him getting that opportunity. All right,

1653
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 2: we got to get out of here special thanks to

1654
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: my man Michael Davis at the controls today, seamless with

1655
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: a new guy man in the ship, so we appreciate that.

1656
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: MD.

1657
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: Everyone in Fox Sports, thank you very much. Quick turnaround

1658
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 2: for us flow, so put the dikers down. We're back

1659
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: on these airwaves in less than one hundred hours. We'll

1660
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: look back, of course at what happens in Austin, Texas

1661
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: and preview Fox UFC Fight Night in Orlando, which is

1662
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: coming up February twenty fourth, with that for the new daddy.

1663
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: Congrats kid, get some sleep, man, My best to bark,

1664
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: and I look forward to hearing how the weekend goes

1665
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: on Monday morning.

1666
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 3: Thank you, dud. I'm gonna go get some coffee in me, man.

1667
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do it all right. Thank y'all for listening,

1668
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