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Speaker 1: The headlines say it all. NBC News Mike Pence, former VP,

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Speaker 1: It's unclear what information the special counsel may be seeking.

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Speaker 1: By the way, let's be clear about how this is

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Speaker 1: how much this White House doesn't want to talk about

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Speaker 1: Russia to fight the Ukrainians. They would never have thought

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Speaker 1: about doing that under President Donald Trump. In China, of course,

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Speaker 1: is buying Russia's oil, They are banking them, They're sending

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Speaker 1: going to hold them to account. Well, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: and I know you can't tell us what was said

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Speaker 1: in the classified briefing, but I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: one aspect of this. I feel like that if it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been literally for American citizens who spotted this

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Speaker 1: down balloon that this administration, if they could have, would

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Speaker 1: have never told anyone, including you and your colleagues in

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Speaker 1: the Senate, that this balloon went across the United States

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Speaker 1: of America. They were forced to disclose this. How concerned

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Speaker 1: are you now, excuse me, how concerned are you now

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Speaker 1: that they are not disclosing important information just like this

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Speaker 1: balloon to Congress knowing that this was again, you guys

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Speaker 1: got your first briefing yesterday. That's correct. And see you're

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Speaker 1: exactly right. There was a pilot who had a great

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Speaker 1: camera lens because he also was a reporter and he

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Speaker 1: was watching this. So with that high depth lens, he

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Speaker 1: takes that picture, he puts it up on their site,

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Speaker 1: their website, and says, hey, has anybody, is anybody else

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Speaker 1: watching this? Anybody know anything about it? And that is

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Speaker 1: the only reason that this administration had to step forward

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Speaker 1: and talk about it. It's the only reason we know

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Speaker 1: about it because we've got a citizen who saw something

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Speaker 1: and said this is not right. Let's see what other

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Speaker 1: people know about this, and he put it out there.

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Speaker 1: So then you had the administration say this is what

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Speaker 1: we have. What we know and we're watching it and

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Speaker 1: it's nothing dangerous. The Chinese say it's a weather balloon.

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Speaker 1: And then because of the American people finding out about

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Speaker 1: this and just being incensed with the actions of this

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Speaker 1: administration regarding the balloon, then Anthony Blincoln, the current Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State who nobody is afraid of, decided he would

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Speaker 1: cancel his trip to Beijing. Then he reaches out to

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Speaker 1: about this, and three days later, the Chinese Communist Party

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Speaker 1: take your call. So BAA is not going to do anything.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is weak. They know it. Joe Biden, I

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Speaker 1: don't think a president ever said let's shoot down that balloon.

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Speaker 1: If he had given that order, the Pentagon would have

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Speaker 1: had to carry out that order. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: many people that think he gave that order. And I've

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Speaker 1: talked to a lot i've retired military over the past

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Speaker 1: had given that order, that balloon would have been shot

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Speaker 1: down wherever it was. Last question on this, and then

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Speaker 1: I want to move to budgets and spinning cuts that

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Speaker 1: you're helping proposed right now. But when you when you

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Speaker 1: look at the intel Democrats are now coming out saying

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Speaker 1: this balloon and what it gathered was not a threat

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Speaker 1: to national security and really isn't that big of a deal,

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Speaker 1: implying that this was more of like just kind of

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Speaker 1: the same thing they could quote do from their satellites.

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Speaker 1: I believe China never does anything by accident. I believe

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Speaker 1: they were clearly trying to gather until they couldn't gather

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Speaker 1: from satellites. You've been briefed on this. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: that this was not that big of an intelligence gathering mission?

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Speaker 1: Or was this a very successful mission? And the administration

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Speaker 1: is just misleading the American people on that. I am

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Speaker 1: very concerned that the administration is misleading the American people

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Speaker 1: on that. There's a couple of points that are vitally

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Speaker 1: important here. Number one, getting within sixty thousand feet is

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Speaker 1: to the point that they could surveil. They were going

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Speaker 1: over They stayed over Montana, Idaho, Dakota's places where we

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Speaker 1: have some of our ICBMs, the silos, things of that nature,

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Speaker 1: and we know that they are trying to assess our

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Speaker 1: nuclear capacity. So it's North Korea who is one of

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Speaker 1: their cohorts and the axis of evil, so that is

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Speaker 1: of concern. And then they just seem to kind of

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Speaker 1: make their way across military post across the country. And

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Speaker 1: when we look at our military post and our critical infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: we've been fighting to keep the Chinese Communist Party from

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Speaker 1: buying farms and land near our military posts. Why were

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Speaker 1: they wanting to do that so they could surveil our

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Speaker 1: military posts. So you know, then we've got to take

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Speaker 1: that into accountant. By the way, my amendment that would

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Speaker 1: have prohibit themcrat the Chinese Communist Party from buying our

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Speaker 1: US farmland, every one of those Democrats voted against it,

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Speaker 1: every one of them. So therefore it therefore it And

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Speaker 1: so they're all dancing around trying to figure out how

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Speaker 1: they're not going to tell us what's really happening with

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Speaker 1: the spy balloon. Now, the other thing that is important

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Speaker 1: about this is if they had taken that balloon down

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Speaker 1: early on, and as I said, they could have attached

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Speaker 1: other balloons to that payload, imploded the balloon that was

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Speaker 1: supporting the payload, and very carefully walked that payload down.

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Speaker 1: They chose not to do that. This is a sign

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Speaker 1: of weakness. They invaded our airspace, they have invaded our

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Speaker 1: sovereign territory. We have a president who did nothing. They

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Speaker 1: are testing him. He is failing the test. Lastly, something

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Speaker 1: else very important you're working on. You proposed across the

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Speaker 1: board spinning cuts some of the debt ceiling fight. Democrats

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Speaker 1: have been basically positioning themselves to say, well, there may

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Speaker 1: be a government shutdown of three Republicans don't agree with us,

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Speaker 1: and it will be their fault. Talk about the politics

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Speaker 1: of this and talk about actual spinning cuts. Because our deficit,

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Speaker 1: you and I've talked about this before, is clearly totally

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Speaker 1: out of control. Right, And what we have to realize

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Speaker 1: is that Joe Biden has increased our federal debt load

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Speaker 1: nearly five trillion dollars since he's been in office, five

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars. So that's where our debt is currently under

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Speaker 1: his administration. The total is over thirty one trillion dollars.

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Speaker 1: So the bills that I propose every year, you cut

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Speaker 1: either one percent, which is a penny out of a dollar,

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Speaker 1: two percent which is two pennies out of a dollar,

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Speaker 1: or a nickel which is a five percent cut, and

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Speaker 1: you do that across the board in all of your

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Speaker 1: discretionary spending. That forces these federal agencies to start to

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Speaker 1: work and make some spending reductions. Now, the President erroneously

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Speaker 1: says that Republicans are trying to cut Medicare and Social Security,

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Speaker 1: which is a lie. Republicans are not. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: one of the most That was one of the most

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Speaker 1: awkward moments when the Say of the Union where the

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Speaker 1: President try to accuse all the Republicans have when to

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Speaker 1: cut so security, the third rail in politics. And then

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Speaker 1: I was glad that you guys responded very loudly, made

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Speaker 1: it awkward. And then he had to met Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not all of you these says, Okay, well

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Speaker 1: maybe we agree on this. It was one of the

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Speaker 1: most awkward moments I've ever seen. The State of Union. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was very awkward because there's no Republican that has

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Speaker 1: done that. There's no one that has said cut some

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Speaker 1: benefits to Medicare and Social Security recipients. Nobody, and so

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Speaker 1: this is another of those things that they're just making up.

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Speaker 1: But in order to right size this budget, what you

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Speaker 1: have to do is begin the process of cutting into

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Speaker 1: that baseline, so that because what the federal agencies do,

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Speaker 1: They say, Luke, you gave us one hundred dollars last year,

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Speaker 1: we're asking for one hundred and ten this year. And

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Speaker 1: when they get one hundred and five, what do they

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Speaker 1: all go out there and say? They say, you cut us,

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Speaker 1: And that is just not true. What we're saying is,

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Speaker 1: if you've got one hundred dollars last year, we're going

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Speaker 1: to give you ninety nine, or we're going to give

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Speaker 1: you ninety eight, or we're going to give you ninety five,

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Speaker 1: but you're not going to get a hundred and doing

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Speaker 1: those cuts. Having these agencies begin that process is in CORBA.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if it were up to me, every

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Speaker 1: agency would exercise zero based budgeting and go back to

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Speaker 1: dollar one and totally reassess their projects and programs and

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Speaker 1: inside of that be required to save that penny on

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Speaker 1: the dollar. Sander, I appreciate you coming on. Is always

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Speaker 1: good to chat with you all right. Lastly, please make

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