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Speaker 1: Oh? Sondra Bullock was in a Time to Kill Jeane Triplehorn. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also again I just come back to this

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Speaker 2: Clay It's it's a sports site and I don't want

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Speaker 1: It's not OutKick the good sports site. Yes, another sports

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about one movie. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Let's take a timeless, cherished love story, Clay, and remove

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Speaker 1: Well, there's an indicator that they're starting to see that

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Speaker 7: But I never wanted to come off as me being

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Speaker 7: ungrateful for the opportunities I have When I say that

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Speaker 7: this has been the biggest adjustment of my life, like

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Speaker 7: understanding the way my life operates now, being who I

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Speaker 7: am and the things that I've been so fortunate to make.

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Speaker 3: It comes with so much ground, so much ground that

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Speaker 3: I never thought i would be able to cover, and

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Speaker 3: that people think I'm doing poorly, and other people think

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Speaker 3: I'm doing gracefully, and I don't think come doing it

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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm sure of. She thinks about herself

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Speaker 1: a lot. She definitely has the ability to think about

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Speaker 1: her I just think about how difficult it is to

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Speaker 1: be hated. This is almost Megan Markle like to me.

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Speaker 2: You like Megan Markle is a princess who is incredibly

449
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Speaker 2: good looking that gets to be a legitimate princess. Almost

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Speaker 2: every woman listening to us right now, at some point

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Speaker 2: when she was a girl, dreamed of being a princess.

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Speaker 2: This is why they have all of the entire Disney

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Speaker 2: princess collection.

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Speaker 1: It's not because.

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Speaker 2: Women are being forced to believe that they want to

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Speaker 2: be princesses. It's because growing up, getting married, having a

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Speaker 2: family is the aspiration of ninety percent of women, all right,

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Speaker 2: And if you're in the ten percent that doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to do that, more power to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything wrong with it. Ninety percent of

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Speaker 1: women out there want to grow up, they want to

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Speaker 1: get married, and they want to have a family. And

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Speaker 1: if they he could be a princess on top of that,

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Speaker 1: and Mary Prince Charming. Oh my goodness, life could not

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Speaker 1: get any better than that. So this girl gets cast

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Speaker 1: Buck as snow White. She is incredibly good looking, she

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Speaker 1: is getting highly paid to play an iconic character in

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Speaker 1: one of the most prestigious and well liked companies until

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Speaker 1: the last few years in American history when it comes

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Speaker 1: to entertainment, And what did she just say? There? Woe

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Speaker 1: is me. I'm a victim.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea what I was stepping into you're

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Speaker 2: an actress, you're playing an iconic role. Your life is

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Speaker 2: not hard. I'm sorry. Suck it up, Buttercup. And how

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Speaker 2: about this buck? I wonder on some level whether Disney

476
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Speaker 2: is going to bat Girl this movie?

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Speaker 1: Remember Batgirl?

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Speaker 2: They watched it and they said it's so bad at

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Speaker 2: Warner Brothers. They just burned it. They're not even going

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Speaker 2: to release it. They spend one hundred million on it,

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Speaker 2: and they were like, this is a failure. We're taking

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Speaker 2: the right tax right off. I wonder Disney's gonna take

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Speaker 2: a DAC tax right off on the new snow White.

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Speaker 1: I really do I don't. I mean, look, it has

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Speaker 1: happened before, so you can never say never. But well,

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Speaker 1: they're they're putting a lot of money into this, and

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Speaker 1: this is I think we're a different environment here. I

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Speaker 1: mean to tie this into some of the bigger things

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Speaker 1: we're seeing. Target stock price is way down. Bud Light

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Speaker 1: is a b Do you even they were giving it

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Speaker 1: away by the case, and now I think they're just

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Speaker 1: not even stocking it on shelves anymore. Bud Light has

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Speaker 1: been destroyed as a brand. Target has gotten a hit

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Speaker 1: pretty seriously as a stock. You know Disney and Ron

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Speaker 1: DeSantis that there was that whole tangle. I think that

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Speaker 1: these companies are starting to realize now that it's like

497
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Speaker 1: the sleeping giant of the right has woken up and

498
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Speaker 1: is not happy with all this woke stuff, and it

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Speaker 1: really you know what it really was when they're going

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Speaker 1: it's the transgender stuff, yes, but also going after the kids,

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Speaker 1: trying to indoctrinate kids. That was certainly the case with

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Speaker 1: some of the backlash to the Pride displays at Target.

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Speaker 1: People have just had enough. So what I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: I think Disney, I think the Disney of a few

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Speaker 1: years ago be like, whatever, we're Disney, We're on the

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Speaker 1: cutting edge. We're progressive. That's how we do things now.

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Speaker 1: And now they might be like, h just kidding, we

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Speaker 1: don't mean it. Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about buck, the panic that the pr

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Speaker 2: people had. Pr somehow got what's this actress's name, Rachel,

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Speaker 2: what's her name, Rachel Zegler. I have no idea what

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Speaker 2: she's done before. All right, so she's snow white to me,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you. They got little snow White there on

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Speaker 2: the phone and they said, hey, millions of people have

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Speaker 2: watched your arrogant, condescending interview where you denigrate everything that

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Speaker 2: people loved about the character that you're playing, and also

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Speaker 2: insulted anyone who liked the original movie and said the

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Speaker 2: new one was going to be nothing like it, and

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Speaker 2: so you should maybe go out there and make it

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Speaker 2: clear that that's not really what you meant.

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Speaker 1: And then she puts out a new video, and it

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Speaker 1: makes me like her even.

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Speaker 2: Less because at least if she buck, if she had

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Speaker 2: just owned it and been like, hey, I think that

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Speaker 2: the original Snow White is sexist.

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Speaker 1: I think that it is that it is indefensible.

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Speaker 2: That they want girls to grow up and marry princesses,

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Speaker 2: and I stand nothing for it. I think dwarves were demeaned.

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Speaker 2: I would think she was alone, but at least she

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Speaker 2: would own what she's saying. Now she's like, oh, people

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Speaker 2: are paying too much attention to what I say, and

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Speaker 2: they're taking everything out of I set out of context.

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Speaker 2: If you play a substantial portion of a quote from someone,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's considered taking it out of context.

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Speaker 2: Right if you take one sentence out of a larger paragraph.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody kind of got the sense that she

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Speaker 2: wants to modernize snow White and thinks the old one

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Speaker 2: is outdated and antiquated. And guess what, most Disney viewers,

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Speaker 2: I don't think think that. I don't think most parents

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Speaker 2: who put their kids down in front of that movie

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Speaker 2: think it.

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Speaker 1: And I have to wonder. I have to wonder how

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Speaker 1: Disney is going to continue to respond. Let's say that

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Speaker 1: this is a wow. Snow White was at its time

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Speaker 1: the highest grossing film of all time until Gone with

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Speaker 1: the Wind took the title. Snow White was in its

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Speaker 1: time the ultimate box office So yeah, way bigger, I think.

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Speaker 2: Then.

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Speaker 1: Let me see, I'm trying to check the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There are people out there that are angry because you

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Speaker 2: just basically took a shot at Bambi Peter Pan, like

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Speaker 2: you just totally dismissed all all of the original iconic

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking.

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Speaker 1: At the dollars and cents there. But I don't throw

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Speaker 1: me under the bus on this. I get it.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't want Big Disney coming for you

557
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Speaker 2: because Peter Pan and Bambi fans out there just are

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Speaker 2: are driving off the road when you took shots at

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Speaker 2: them with the snow White.

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Speaker 1: So you'd have to look at adjusted for inflation, and

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Speaker 1: all that Snow White and the Seven Dwarves made one

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Speaker 1: point four eight million dollars in nineteen thirty seven, so

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Speaker 1: it goes way back. Sleeping Beauty in nineteen fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: so a couple of decades later made six million dollars,

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Speaker 1: and then Beauty and the Beast in nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 1: made twenty five million dollars. And that's obviously very different

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Speaker 1: in terms of adjusting for that's not adjusted for inflation.

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Speaker 1: But those are like the original Disney super hits, if

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Speaker 1: you will. It was so popular buck they made at

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Speaker 1: the nineteen thirty seven Oscars, maybe the nineteen thirty eight Oscars,

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Speaker 1: they made Walt Disney a special oscar with seven little

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Speaker 1: dwarves alongside of the oscar statuette. And I believe it's

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Speaker 1: still the case if you adjust for inflation. I could

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Speaker 1: be wrong on this, but I think Gone with the Win,

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Speaker 1: which came out in nineteen thirty nine, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: I think it's still the highest grossing movie of all

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Speaker 1: time if you adjust for box office inflation, because obviously

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Speaker 1: a ticket today costs fifteen dollars or whatever it costs

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Speaker 1: to go to a movie compared to probably twenty cents

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Speaker 1: when when I would bet something like that when Disney

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Speaker 1: were when the Snow White movie came out. I don't

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Speaker 1: have kids, so I don't know about these things anymore.

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Speaker 1: But Tangled? Did you even know? There was a Disney

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Speaker 1: movie called Tangled? According to this, made two hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty million dollars in twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's basically the Rapunzel story, right, am I right

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Speaker 2: about that? You tell me you girl with long hair

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Speaker 2: in a castle if I remember correctly, and I.

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Speaker 1: Left out Cinderella. Cinderella nineteen fifty made two point nine

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Speaker 2: the top of the next hour. Our friend Will Caine

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Speaker 2: that'll be an interesting conversation going forward. But Buck, we

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Speaker 2: were just discussing this Snow White remake and what a

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Speaker 2: disaster it's going to be, and then it led into

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirty seven, how much money did snow White make

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Speaker 2: adjusted for inflation. Snow White made four hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 2: million dollars, and.

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Speaker 1: That got me.

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Speaker 2: I went, I was trying to remember what is the

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Speaker 2: highest grossing films of all time adjusted for inflation? And

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Speaker 2: you have to adjust for inflation because otherwise, obviously tickets

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Speaker 2: are way more expensive every year, and so comparing a

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Speaker 2: movie from the nineteen eighties to say nothing of the

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Speaker 2: movie from the nineteen thirties to today, would be very difficult. Buck,

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Speaker 2: I have the top ten in front of me right now.

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Speaker 2: I was right that Gone with the Wind is the

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Speaker 2: highest grossing movie ever made in today's dollars. It made

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Speaker 2: four point two billion, that's billion with a B dollars.

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Speaker 2: How many other of the top ten can you name

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Speaker 2: off the top of your head, adjusted for inflation, adjusted inflation,

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Speaker 2: adjusted for inflation. I think Titanic has to be in there,

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Speaker 2: even though it's recent. Titanic is number three overall, just

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Speaker 2: shy of three point five billion.

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Speaker 1: Good guests. Here we go, so the Buckster, the Buckster

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Speaker 1: comes out swinging on that one top of my head. Man, dude,

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Speaker 1: you're really putting me on the spot. Here is one

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Speaker 1: of the uh is one of the Avengers movies or

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Speaker 1: Spider Man movies on there.

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Speaker 2: Avengers end Game is the fifth highest gross movie of

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Speaker 2: all time three point two billion dollars. That just came

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Speaker 2: out about four years ago. I'm gonna think you'll recognize.

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Speaker 2: Let me, let me hit you with some of these.

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Speaker 2: Avatar is number two all time.

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Speaker 1: But see that's a little unfair because did it have

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Speaker 1: the whole uh like charge twenty five dollars or something

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Speaker 1: or more for the U get imax benefits?

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Speaker 2: Certainly today also, to be fair, the global box office

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Speaker 2: is so much more substantial now when you think about that.

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Speaker 1: So Avatars? You like Avatars? Can we do this for

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Speaker 1: a second here? Did you like Avatar? I thought Avatar

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Speaker 1: was a garbage movie, garb I thought it was okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why it made again, I think it's

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Speaker 2: the global audience responded really well to Avatar. And I

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Speaker 2: watched Avatar two Way of the Water or whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: It also dominated. So James Cameron, by the way, the

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Speaker 2: number two and three all time most money making movies.

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Speaker 1: The guy's amazing. I mean, I love Aliens, I love

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Speaker 1: the Dominator movies. I mean James Cameron Titanic for what

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Speaker 1: it is, very watchable, so you know he's he's a

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Speaker 1: brilliant guy. I just don't get I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: even see Avatar too. I don't get the Avatar thing

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Speaker 1: at all. What else is? All?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me hit you with the rest.

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Speaker 2: Star Wars the original number four You Gott Avengers end Game.

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Speaker 1: This one surprised me.

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Speaker 2: Sound of Music the sixth highest grossing movie of all time,

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Speaker 2: et the Extraterrestrial seven ten Commandments.

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Speaker 1: Would not have.

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Speaker 2: Guessed that at all back in the day, Charlton Sheen

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Speaker 2: number eight over Charlton Heston.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Charlie, that would be boy, that'd be Commandments. Wow, wow,

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Speaker 1: I might I mean that one might be rated X.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Shivago and Star Wars The Force Awakens are the

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Speaker 2: ten most lucrative movies ever made in the history of

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Speaker 2: the medium, adjusted for inflation.

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Speaker 1: We come back.

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Speaker 2: We're going out to Hawaii, our friend Will Caine, the wildfires.

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Speaker 1: What happened there? What can you do to help? We'll

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Speaker 1: discuss next.

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Speaker 5: Lay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.