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Speaker 1: Soon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Oser.

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Speaker 3: All Right, welcome into this week's Ozone podcast, and I'm

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Speaker 3: joined by what is now a familiar face to Jaguars

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Speaker 3: fans and to the Ozone Podcast, Jaguars linebacker Foy Lucan.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, Thank you for having me,

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Speaker 3: and I guess the first question coming out of the bye, Uh,

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Speaker 3: you're a veteran, You've seen a lot of different NFL teams.

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Speaker 3: What's the state of this team right now? After some

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Speaker 3: adversity before the buye.

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Speaker 1: It's energized just understanding where we're at in the season.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of season left, and I understand that

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Speaker 1: we're just trying to build and grow throughout the season

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Speaker 1: and get back on the women column here, but really

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Speaker 1: keep building and growing the team to be playing better

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Speaker 1: football each and every week.

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Speaker 2: Is it hard for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in your eighth year, so you sort of

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Speaker 3: understand how the league works. Is it hard sometimes for

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Speaker 3: younger players or a team coming together to remember.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a long season.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, you're not going every game, and you know,

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Speaker 3: a loss, while you don't want them, it's not the.

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Speaker 1: End of the season definitely is in the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. Maybe, yeah, because I'm older, I seeing I

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Speaker 1: think one time like Brady started winning four or something

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Speaker 1: like Crack and Tampa. You know, it's the start of

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Speaker 1: the season. I think it's important. And I talk about

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Speaker 1: taking all these losses as lessons kind of cliche at

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Speaker 1: this point, but it's really important to do that because

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Speaker 1: just because you let something slip early in the season,

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Speaker 1: if you're playing good football, it's about learning how to win.

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily always playing good football, but just learning how

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Speaker 1: to win. At the end of the day, the thing

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Speaker 1: that matters most is showing up in the win column,

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Speaker 1: you know, so doing the necessary things throughout the game

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Speaker 1: to win the game. Like they say, like Novembers when

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Speaker 1: important football is starting. I think really in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: and we're above five hundred right now. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: like you have to keep learning and understanding how to

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Speaker 1: win the close games the end. It's a good little

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Speaker 1: starting point, but you definitely have to be finishing better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to play yourself out of it early, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, you don't have to be owing six at

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Speaker 3: this more own seven through seven games with a veteran's

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Speaker 3: eye on this, What have you learned about this team.

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Speaker 2: That you like?

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Speaker 1: You know, we're physical, very physical, a gritty team. Uh,

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Speaker 1: kind of just always fighting. I think that's been kind

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Speaker 1: here as a Jaguar, like we just fight to the end,

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Speaker 1: you know. And this year, you know, we got a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent that plays well together. He's got to

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Speaker 1: keep playing well together and doing the little things within

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Speaker 1: every place that you know, another person can have a

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Speaker 1: big play. No job is too small, offense and defense.

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Speaker 1: Just execute the little things and then just be more detailed.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we've been learning these past weeks.

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Speaker 1: So we can match that grit and that physicality up

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Speaker 3: Am I overstating it to call this adversity? And if so,

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Speaker 3: are you are you looking forward to seeing how the

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Speaker 2: Or is that too much to call it that? Right now?

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Speaker 1: You could call it adversity. I mean we're you know,

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Speaker 1: lost two in a row. Nobody wants to lose one. Sure,

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Speaker 1: about themselves as well. But I think the players really

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Speaker 1: team football because that's what we need right now.

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Speaker 2: What makes this.

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Speaker 3: Bunch, this team better able to respond to adversity than

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Speaker 1: You bet, I think we want success for everybody on

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Speaker 1: Like you you're happy for whoever goes off that game,

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Speaker 1: People you know, always looking for their own making sure

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Speaker 2: Now you went there really quick.

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Speaker 3: When I ask the question, I mean, so that's a

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Speaker 1: I think it's very important. I really when you see

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Speaker 1: like everything is done with your boys, so you might

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Speaker 1: But when you come and you want success for my

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Speaker 1: boy who I don't live with now, like that's really

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Speaker 1: closest to like family fear you're going to get in

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Speaker 2: What do you attribute that to?

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Speaker 3: Did they just bring in the right guys if they

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Speaker 2: Is it coaching? Is it? I assume it's many things.

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Speaker 1: It's many things. The guys that they brought in the

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Speaker 1: So it's coming in here being happy to work, but

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Speaker 1: Obviously we lost against the Raums. We did not play

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Speaker 1: a very very tough game, coach, Like, if we don't

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Speaker 1: we step foot on the field. Yeah, there's a way

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Speaker 3: You've you've been around long enough to have seen a

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Speaker 3: what is it about Liam? Every player you talk to like,

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Speaker 3: this guy connects, this guy gets I mean, this guy

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Speaker 3: being a coordinator, Right, I mean, what is it about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he does a good job of telling

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Speaker 1: you know, even if we win, like what we could

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Speaker 1: that when you see yourself, oh, we could have done

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Speaker 1: we can even a higher level. So it's like, it's

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Speaker 1: and I think the team kind of feeds off of that.

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Speaker 2: There's a genuineess there.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's that's always important, being yourself being genuine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I assume you know, I'm talked to maybe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, camp, Yeah, camp. Uh, you know, almost a college

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Speaker 1: it's about physicality and stuff, but him being himself, like,

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Speaker 1: because you know, you end up playing well. You're helping

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense very strong. I think it's the first seven.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the Rams game is an outlier. What's the mindset

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Speaker 1: There's definitely more out there. You know. It's a new

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Speaker 1: So whenever you have players rolling in and out, maybe

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Speaker 1: It's not you know, you kind of got to think

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Speaker 1: you play in your plays, you know, now know how

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Speaker 1: coach Camp calls the game. You're understanding what plays could

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Speaker 1: that you can more anticipate. Leaving a little faster in

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Speaker 3: It's probably not fair to leave some guys out of

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Speaker 3: the question I'm going to ask you, but I know

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Speaker 2: Simpsons good stuff. You must see athlete man.

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Speaker 1: I had one raised on Rondo, but he retired. I

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Speaker 1: did see him actually when he played for the Hawks

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Speaker 1: per year as your guy. That was my that's my

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Speaker 1: favorite basketball player, Jordan and then Rondo. But Rondo my era, so.

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Speaker 2: You're going to school up there.

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Speaker 1: He just liked I mean, I liked him. I like

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Speaker 1: Kentucky basketball. He was a Kentucky guard. Then he went

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Speaker 1: it was time for him to get out of Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I followed him right away, so when

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Speaker 1: he was kind of not playing that much to when

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Speaker 1: he finally run Rookie of the Month I think towards

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Speaker 1: the playoffs or towards the end of the season. And

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Speaker 1: then the next year the Big Fobe Gang Big four,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was the greatest guard ever played.

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Speaker 2: My late mother was a huge could catch.

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Speaker 1: Oh there we go, big Blue from the lane.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Carolina guy, all right, that's fair boy.

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Speaker 3: I always enjoyed talking to me in this forum. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for joining the Ozone podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me,