1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lally. He is Matt 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt. The Senior Bowl practices have wrapped up 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: for the week, and of course the game will be tomorrow. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: But does the game matter quite as much as the practices, No, 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't. I mean, it's great to show up in 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: a game, especially if you're running back or somebody breaking tackles, 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: somebody along those lines. It's hard to show off of 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: being a good you know, Drone Bettis wouldn't look great 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl practices, but he looked good in 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: the game, you know what I mean. So there are 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: some and it matters. But I think we I don't 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: know if we've laid this out before or not. But 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: all the scouts they get there Monday or whatever, um, 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: watch practice Tuesday, watch practice Wednesday, watch pactice Thursday, and 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: then about an hour after the last practice, the airport 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: in Mobile is full of people exiting in the city. Yes, yes, 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: and they're all getting on these little planes and the 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: whole airport is swarming with scouts and coaches and whatnot. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: And then they they're not gonna watch to walk through 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: on Friday, and then they'll watch the game maybe on 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: TV maybe not, but certainly the AL twenty two um afterwards. 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: But practice is key. You get to interact with them 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, You're you're making these guys 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: swim up stream on Tuesday as well, you know, like 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: you're just meeting everyone. You know, it's a really difficult evaluation. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 1: But are they getting better on Wednesday? They're getting better 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: on Thursday? You know, like we mentioned, some of these 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: guards are kicking in the center later in the week, 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: or a left tackle playing right tackle, or you know, 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: things along those lines. Like our boy John Michael Schmidtz 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: who's tearing it up. They stuck him a guard a 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: little bit today. You know, I'm sure he could do it, 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: but it probably won't have to in the pros. But 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: let's just see. Yeah, um, and so that that's a 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: big part of this whole process. Um. But you know, 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: people were surprised, I'm you know, I'm leaving today to 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: come back to Pittsburgh, Like you're not staying for the game, 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: and like, nah, the game. I could watch the game 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, I'm sure it's great to show up 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: big in the game, but yeah, this is a little 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: bit more of a different type of EVOL. So let's 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: go down to the rosters here and we'll start with 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: the national roster. Some guys who helped themselves this week. 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking here, I get the defensive line first. Uh, 45 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about Key on Light this week. Um, 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: I think he's really helped himself, showing that he can 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: kick inside and do uh you know, play on the edge. 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: He can play inside. He gives you some some flexibility there. 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: I told somebody on Thursday, we're talking about him, I said, 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: he to me looks like a bigger version of Bud Dupree. Yeah. 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: It's a good one, big rocked up power defensive end. 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: And because he is bigger, something that Bud didn't do 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: a lot of is he can line up over guards 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: and centers on passing downs. I'm curious. I mean, just uh, 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, combine stuff. He may even run better than 56 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: Bud when it's all said and done. I mean I 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: think that's a possibility. Um test better at least. I 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: guess his RP eras miles per hour were very very 59 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: high for the big guys this week too. I mean, 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: so it's he's a very impressive player. Yeah for sure. Um, 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: I think you know, watching Keanu Benton, the defensive tackle 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: out of Wisconsin, UM, he showed he has some pass 63 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: rush moves and can get to the quarterback. I think 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: that that was big for him. Uh. Same thing with 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: the guys from Northwestern who's I cannot pronounce, but I'm 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: gonna call him Addie at a bare how about that? Yeah, 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: that's not bad. Um. We've talked about Benton. I think 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: we used the Tyson and Lulu comp you know, I 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: mean not just an old school knows, but more knows 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: than um d end in the Steeler scheme. I'm gonna 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: call him the Northwestern guy. He's they call him an edge, 72 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: but he's six one eight five. His first step reminds 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: me of you on hard Grave. He is chat quick. 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean he is just so quick, and I think 75 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: that's why he could play out on the edge a 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: little bit, because he could give you some pass rush there. 77 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: But he's he's six pounds. I don't know if he'll 78 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: be for everyone, you know, I mean the old big 79 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: lebow scheme wouldn't want him. But Um, you can line 80 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: them up all over the place, and he was winning 81 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: a lot of one on ones this week too. He's 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: just so fast off the just quick off the snap, 83 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: like guys can't get their hands on them. Again, it's 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: that quick first step that um. And then he showed 85 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: some strength to despite being a little undersized to uh, 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, when the guys did get their hands on him, 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: it didn't matter. So I liked him a lot as well. Um, 88 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: did you watch any of Carl Brooks from Bowling Green 89 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: Because he's kind of an edge too, but he's six 90 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: four or three and he looks like he's gonna hold 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: up fine inside as well. He might be an interesting 92 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: player as well. I yea Bowling Green, but he made 93 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: the switch here and did well. Yeah, yes, I mean 94 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: there's some interesting interesting dudes there. He's on the American squad, 95 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: I think, so he's a national guy. I'm looking at 96 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: the rosters. Well, yeah, the original rosters. Sometimes they move 97 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: the guys around too. Yeah, that's that's what makes it 98 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: sometimes a little difficult. I spent a lot of time 99 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: on on Thursday or yeah Thursday, watching the defensive backs 100 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: working against the wide receivers, and uh, I really liked 101 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: what I watching Riley Moss in particular from Iowa, and 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: they kept matching him up against some of the better dudes. Uh, 103 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: you know in that second or with the wide receiver position, 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: you know he was he was out there running with 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: Trey Palmer from from Nebraska. And we'll get to him 106 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: a little bit later, but uh, I think he could 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: he could be a cornerback in the NFL. Yeah, you 108 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: don't see many fair skinned corners. Will say, so, he 109 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: sort of stands out, but he's got a heavy track background. 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: I think, because I mean to be very honest, I 111 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: think because of his in color, people say, oh, he's 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a safety, you know, like there's just a 113 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: shortcut to thinking. But he looks like a corner to 114 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: me all day long. I mean he's a long, long 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: guy with really good speed. Keeping up with Palmer is 116 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: impressive in its own right. And uh, yeah, I think 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: he's interesting. I don't know if he's a top two 118 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: or three round guy. Maybe a round three ish something 119 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: in that neighborhood. Yeah, And most of these guys who 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: were here this week are the mid round guys. Like 121 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: the second day day two guys, I should say, Um, 122 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: you know I saw some good stuff from Tyo Blue Kelly. 123 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: Um he uh very competitive. Um I liked what I 124 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: saw from Artavious Martin as well out of Illinois. Okay, yea, 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: that Illinois secondary is legit really a good group. Martin's 126 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: the safety right Yeah, yeah, a good body for thicker dude. Um. 127 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: We mentioned Kelly the other day. His dad's the one 128 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: that play Kelly Yeah in Tampa, had a really good career. Um. Yeah. 129 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are all tall and look 130 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: the part, and it's it's a really fun corner class overall, 131 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: especially for the Steelers needs it really is. Uh, you know, 132 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: and I mentioned Daniel Scott from cal is another guy 133 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: that shows up. So I mean there was some good, 134 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: good defensive back play here. I don't know. I don't 135 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: know if there's gonna be a lot of scoring in 136 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: the game on Saturday. I don't know how they're gonna 137 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: block some of these defensive linemen. Not only that, but 138 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks aren't very good. Um, so complete every completed 139 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: pass is going to be worth a celebration. Um um. 140 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: Looking at the uh the linebackers here, UM, just thinking 141 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: if anybody stood out to me, I've in Pace from 142 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. Yeah, what's interesting. Yeah, he's got some pass rush, 143 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: he moves well, he's quick. Um, there's there's some things 144 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: there to like. Yeah, him and die On Henley from 145 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Washington State, I both thought had good weeks just flying 146 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: all over the field, coming downhill, taking on blocks, even 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: though not the biggest guys, but they both had good weeks. 148 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: And Cam Jones from Indiana I thought was decent too. Yeah. Um, 149 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: so there's some guys there. Kim Jones is interesting because 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: he's he was like all special teams guy like every year, um, 151 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: but can also play a lot of defense. I mean 152 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: he's he's athletic enough to get out there and not 153 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: just be a special teams guy, but he's a guy 154 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: you could bring in early to help you on special 155 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: teams and then as he grows into uh, into his 156 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: body a little bit more, becomes a starter for you 157 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: down the road. So that's a guy with keeping round 158 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: And we're talking about this position, but I want to 159 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: bring it up while I'm still in my mind. The 160 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: Stanford wide receiver that's there. Wilson also is a cream 161 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: special team right, just found that out in the last 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: twenty four hours too. Yeah, that's a big deal. That's 163 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: a big deal, right, and get it on game day. 164 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: Looking at the offensive lineman here, now. Um. We talked 165 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: about break Blake Freeland yesterday. I thought, he's he's really 166 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: had a nice uh go of things here. Um for 167 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: a guy who's up and down though, for a guy 168 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: who's almost six eight though he's really athletic, he runs 169 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,119 Speaker 1: well you know, right couple. I mean it's a tough competition, 170 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: but I have seen him get a little too high 171 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: at times. Um, but he's I bet oline coaches want 172 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: to work with this guy, you know what I mean. 173 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: The tools are there, yeah, yeah, you know he he 174 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: looks like a big tight end moving around out there times. 175 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: You know he's he's a guy that uh um, you 176 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: know that size, it's it's the planet theory. Um. You know, 177 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: a guy like that's gonna help you. We mentioned talked 178 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: about that one Jones. You often bring up that he's 179 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: not overaged from b y U, And I think that's 180 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: important for him because a year in the weight room 181 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't kill him, right, yeah, still just twenty one. In fact, 182 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: when I talked to him, I said, you know, you 183 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: you still haven't grown into your body yet. Like he's 184 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: six six seven six eight, Um, he's still just barely 185 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: a smidge over three pounds. I mean, he could easily 186 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: add you know, another ten or fifteen pounds of muscle 187 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: and then you'd really have something there. Um really yeah, yeah, 188 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: what do you think in the Michigan Center, Um didn't 189 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: watch a ton of him. He is considered to be 190 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: extremely smart. Um. He was the leader of the Joe 191 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: Moore uh oh Line of the year, you know, and 192 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: he's he's their leader. I don't know that he's a 193 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: Day two guy. I would say he's probably a fringe, third, 194 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: fourth round type of dude. He's a little undersized. Yeah yeah, 195 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, he I liked him a little bit as well. Um, 196 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: so uh, I'm trying to think here. I think Cody 197 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Mock is a guy we have to talk a little. 198 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure, he's 199 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: the North Dakota State guy. Um. What's crazy is he 200 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: comes to North Dakota State as a tight end and 201 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: was a quarterback before that. Then he's their left tackle. 202 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Then he comes here as a guard, and then they 203 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: moved him to center, and I think he succeeded every 204 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: step of the way. But he's probably an interior guy 205 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have real long arms. But he's one 206 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: of those like movements center guard types that may have 207 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: found a home inside because of the Senior Bowl. Yeah, 208 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: and I think teams will like his play demeanor. Um, yeah, 209 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: he's he's feisty and yeah he stands out in that respect. Um. 210 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: Just looking here at the quarterbacks, there's really not much 211 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: to talk there about it with the with the the 212 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: North squad or the National squad. I should say the 213 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: best Cunningham doesn't look like he belongs. Yeah right, Um 214 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: the running backs, uh, you know the end of the 215 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: running back group overall. Um, I think I like the 216 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: other teams guys better though. I think I really liked 217 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: was Roshawn Johnson. He got hurt he practice one day. 218 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: He's Bi Jan's backup at Texas, and it's a big, strong, 219 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 1: strapping guy that just happens to be stuck behind the 220 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: stud So I think he's somebody I've been keeping an 221 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: eye on, like in dynasty leagues and things. He had 222 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: a really good first practice, broke his arm and then 223 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: finished practice with a broken arm, and then just decided 224 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: that's probably enough. The national team tight ends. Yeah, Josh 225 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Wiley there. He also have Durham payin um or a 226 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: pain Durham I should say from Perdue. He made a 227 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: couple of plays in practice on Thursday where I was like, Wow, 228 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: that kid's got a little something there. And Wiley from 229 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: from Cincinnati is uh is legit. Yeah. I think Davis 230 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Allen's okay too. Davis Allen's not bad. Yeah, they've got 231 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: it's a good group. Like this tight end group this 232 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: year might go twelve deep. Yeah, you're right, and I 233 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: think five or six are gonna be going in that 234 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: top fifty two, maybe even a couple in the first round. Yeah. 235 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: So it's it's a good group and that they're worth 236 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on in the game. That brings us 237 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: over to the wide receivers. Now, we talked a little 238 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: bit about that. We talked about Palmer and his his 239 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: deep speed. I talked to him on Thursday and uh, 240 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: I said, what do you expect to run out the combine? 241 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: He said, four too? Has that look about him? So 242 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: if you run a four two before and he says 243 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: not yet, but I'm gonna okay, Okay. Interesting this group 244 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: of receivers isn't bad either. Jaden Reid from Michigan State. 245 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: I think it's been a definite standout. Ronnie Bell from 246 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: Michigan started the week strong. Um, Michael Wilson's the guy 247 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned before. He's one of the only bigger receivers. 248 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: It's a this this receiver class seems little to me 249 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: across the board. Yeah yeah, speaking at a Yeah, Trey 250 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Tucker who's tiny, um, but he's explosive. Um. Yeah. And 251 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: then the kid from Charlotte, Grant de Bose, Um, you know, 252 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: made some place this week, so he's worth keeping an 253 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: eye on as well. Um, I'm just looking on I 254 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: think he's a bigger guy looking up. Yeah, he's he's 255 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: uh yu. The bows is six two and three eights 256 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: and two oh four, so he's a little bigger bodied 257 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Okay, So there's there's all shapes and sizes 258 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: in this Uh. There are a lot of skinny guys, 259 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: but there are a couple with some beef, but there's 260 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: not a lot of bigger receivers overall in this class. 261 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: To the opposite, moving over to the the American team here, Um, 262 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: the defensive backs here a pretty good group again Tyreek 263 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: Stevenson from Miami who's showed up well this week. Uh. 264 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely like what I've seen from Jamie Robinson, the safety 265 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: out of Florida State, and uh, who else is there? Um, 266 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: Darius Rush from South Carolinas something yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 267 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: he's he's shadows. Well yeah, Cam Smith's the one that 268 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: gets all the attention there. He's gonna be a first 269 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: round pick and Rush therefore has a lot of tape 270 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: of people going after him and a lot of successful tape. 271 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: He's a good player. Yeah yeah, somebody did to definitely 272 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: keep an eye on on the defensive side, on the 273 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: defensive line looking at that group. Um, I didn't get 274 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: a chance to watch these guys super closely, not as 275 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: well as I did with the with the national group. Um, 276 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: anybody that stood out to you from that group a 277 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: little bit. I don't know if he'll be for the Steelers, 278 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: but Derek Hall is an edge guy from Auburn. He's 279 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: one of the best players there. He's he's getting some 280 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: first round buzz, just as a would be a three 281 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: or four outside linebacker here right day long, and it 282 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world. Um. A guy 283 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: that caught my eye that I want to look more 284 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: into is South Carolina's Zack Pickens when I was watching 285 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: one on ones. He seems to pretty consistently win and 286 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: he's the steeler mold of six three and a half 287 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: three pounds, big hands, long arms, So I think he's 288 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: kind of intriguing as well. To your point about hall Um, 289 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: he covered he was clocked I think just over twenty 290 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: miles per hour covering a punt. I believe it was Tuesday. Wow, 291 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: So he Yeah, he was for a two and fifty plum. 292 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: You know, guy, you know he's probably gonna run in 293 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: the fourth you know, four fives maybe low four six 294 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: is at the combine, so definitely, Yeah, doesn't doesn't hurt 295 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: his status with with my doing stuff like that at 296 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: the linebackers you get on that group. Will McDonald from 297 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: Iowa State more of an edge, but yeah, yeah, right, 298 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: he's really he could be a first rounder too. I 299 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: think he could be definitely be a first rounder if yeah, um, 300 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: he's like two thirty five to forty And that's really 301 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: the only negative one the guys he's kind of right, yeah, 302 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: but he'll he'll definitely be a guy to keep an 303 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: eye on. Aubrey Miller from Jackson State. Did you know 304 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: much about him coming into this? No, but it looks 305 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: like he hits like a truck. Just he takes on 306 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: blocks and like it makes a different noise when I'm 307 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: watching on N Plus or whatever. Yeah, he caught my 308 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: eye too. I actually brought him up today as well. Yeah, 309 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: and he can fly as well, fast and so good 310 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: closing speed there. Over on the offensive line side, we've 311 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: we've talked about John Michael Schmidt's UM, the center from 312 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: from Minnesota. UM. Actually anyone there. He might get himself 313 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: into the first round. He might. I originally thought of 314 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: him as you know, through a Steeler lens. Maybe that 315 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: third pick they had would be a good one. Now 316 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's gonna be there for the their 317 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: second pick, right, I mean, if that's where you want, 318 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: if you were gonna take him, that's where where you 319 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: would have to take him, if he's available, if he's available, 320 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: because I think he's done enough that he is Uh, 321 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: he's done that. Matthew Berger on from Syracuse another interesting guy. Yeah, 322 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: and something put him at ard a little bit yesterday, 323 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: which I didn't ever look at him at that light. 324 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: But he's somebody to work with. I think he's a tackle. Yeah, 325 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's almost six. He's just a shade 326 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: under six five. He's six four and seven eight three 327 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: twenty three pounds, So maybe they're looking at that ball 328 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: and saying, well, he could you know, hold up inside? Um, 329 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: maybe not really. I mean basically six five, so it's 330 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: not like he's under sized to play offensive tackle. So um, 331 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: he's definitely somebody to keep an eye on as well. 332 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Anybody else share that caught your eye? Um? Oh, Cyrus Torrence. 333 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: Remember Daniel Jeremiah mocked him to the Steelers in the 334 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: first round. I don't see that. I don't see that either. 335 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: But he's pretty dominant in one on one. I mean 336 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: he looks like a first round guard, really thick, really powerful. 337 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: Nobody goes through him. Um, he's definitely a standout. I 338 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: mentioned Steve Avelia to you yesterday. Um, a lot. He 339 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: had a lot of second ound buzz when I was 340 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: doing homework for the National title game, and what I 341 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: saw of him in one on ones, he's very stout, 342 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: wide body. Um, and it has some center background. And 343 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: he played some center this week too. So Avelia and 344 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: the North Dakota State kid that we talked about earlier 345 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: in the segment are very different, but they both are 346 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: playing some center and I wonder how that went in 347 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, coaches eyes. Yeah, Avelia is six three in 348 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: an eighth two pounds, so he does have a good 349 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: base there. Yeah. Um, the quarterbacks over on the other 350 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: side of that. Now, Hendon Hooker is here and he's 351 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: just walking, but he's obviously not practicing. I mean he 352 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: would he if he would have been practicing, he would 353 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: have been the standout quarterback in this group by far. 354 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Like if he's still the best quarterback there, you know, right, yeah, 355 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: even though he's not doing anything, I need to get 356 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: aft of the highest of the group. Um. I don't 357 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: know if you watch much of the Shepherd and he 358 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: had a rough week, Tyson Badget, Yeah, there's something to 359 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: work with their I mean you could throw it. He 360 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: could throw it through the h he could throw the football. Yeah, 361 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: and he's got a little bit of a twitch to him, 362 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: and he's you know, light on his feet. Like if 363 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: you make an ol Wacon type of pick, maybe it 364 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: would be somebody that you'd love to get in camp. 365 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, that's exactly kind of what I thought 366 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: about it. Looking at the running backs, this is a 367 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: good group. Yeah. Yeah, I think Tajy Spears from two 368 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: lane is one of the better backs I've seen in 369 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: watching Senior Bowls over the years. Yeah, he's quick. I 370 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: mean he's just he's like lightning in a bottle um. 371 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: And you know, even a guy like Kenny Mackintosh at 372 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: a Georgia's pretty good. I mean they get guys there. 373 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: Eric Ray is not bad too from Oklahoma, but I 374 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: would say Spears is one of the had maybe the 375 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: top five week of anybody there. The way he cuts 376 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: and attacks, and he's a little bigger than I thought too, 377 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: he's two or five pounds. But it's a good group. Yeah, 378 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: it is a good group that tight end position. Again, 379 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave there who had a good week. Will Mallory 380 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: from from Miami's pretty good. So there's there's some guys 381 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: there as well. Yeah, Musgrave is a weapon. I mean 382 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: he only played two games this year before getting hurt. 383 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: But just watching him, you know, running through that secondary, big, long, 384 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, fluid, explosive. He taught twenty I believe rare 385 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: for a tight end, yeah, but for relatively speaky. He 386 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: looks like Kelsey your kid will running through the secondary. Yeah, 387 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's he he looks like he he will 388 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: be a guy that will be coveted on draft day 389 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: pretty early, I would think. I would think so maybe 390 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: even first tight end off the board, depending what you're 391 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: looking for, right, and then the wide receivers over on 392 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the American side. Um, i'd say he wiss Rice is 393 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: the guy that got the most buzz of this group. 394 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know who stood out. Yeah, I don't know. Again, 395 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: it's tough to tough to look at some of these guys. 396 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Was based on some of the quarterback play that they 397 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: had to work with. Yeah, it's a good point. It 398 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: made it difficult, like they could win their their route 399 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: and the ball was sailing over their head or it 400 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: was behind them and or it was you know, a 401 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: tick lake getting there and it allowed the defense him 402 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: back to kind of catch up. Um, it was rough. 403 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: The corners were really good and the quarterbacks aren't. Well 404 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: that's all right, that's not a good man, not a 405 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: good matchup, not at all. The only guy I really 406 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: wanted to bring up though, was uh andre Io Visus 407 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: the Princeton Princeton. Yeah. Yeah, he's like a world class 408 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: speed guy as well. I saw him get behind defensive 409 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: bats here and there, and then the ball would end 410 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: up in the seats or whatever. But you know, hard 411 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: to tell what. He's just an interesting prospect, super fast, Yeah, absolutely, 412 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: and obviously smart having gone to Princeton. So yeah, you 413 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: would think you would think there would be something to 414 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: work with their on the knowledge part of things. 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