WEBVTT - Kailey Dickerson 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:16.400 Caralam. She's a queen of talking. He was. She's on 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:20.120 the inside. She got the scoop on the law on side. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:29.960 No one can do win quiet Caralam Caralam, No one 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:37.280 can do win quiet Caralam Carol. This episode of Get 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.159 Real podcast, I have Kayleie Dickerson joining me. She is 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:45.040 such an incredible inspiring soul to talk to. Every time 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.640 I sit down and talk with her, I'm just blown 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:51.240 away by her faith, by her humor, her trust in God. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:55.360 She and Russell Dickerson, her husband, who is rising star. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.600 He just had a second number one single and country radio. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.640 He makes a grand entrance with the any of the podcast, 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.040 and it's so funny, but Kaylee and Russell's faith is 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.120 so strong. They have been believing in this dream of 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.479 country music for so many years. We walked through their 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.360 entire journey, and something so cool is Kaylee has been 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.920 right there by Russell's side the whole time. And she 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.760 has been the videographer and the producer of all of 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.600 Russell's music videos so far. She said two number one 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.800 music videos on CMT Blue Tacoma was her latest one 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.720 and yours. They filmed yours and Russell had nothing going 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.080 on there was no money to make a music video, 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.720 and they went out and shot it themselves. Kaylee directed it. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.160 So their story is so incredible and they just have 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.920 the most optimistic attitude about life. It's so uplifting to 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:49.440 be around them. So get excited. Here's Kayley Dickerson. Okay, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:54.960 I'm here at Kaylee Dickerson's house. Hello, wife of Russell Dickerson. Hey, 0:01:55.120 --> 0:02:02.000 he was a very hilarious dynamic country singer. Yes he is. Oh, oh, 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:07.680 oh my god, gus here gee. I didn't know he 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.240 was going to be here. Do you know you had 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.919 an elevator in your house? I love you any bye? 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.760 You know? Yeah? Where do you like to ride that 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:26.480 elevator down to the laundry? John in the wine cellar library? 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.240 Yeah okay, yeah that's very necessary, Yeah for sure. Yeah. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.480 Um okay, So it sounds like you guys have no 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.919 fun in your marriage at all. Zero yeah, zero fun, 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:40.280 no laughs, no, no laughs. What is the typical daylight 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:45.840 here at the Dickerson house? It is, um, it's an adventure. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.639 He is truly like wakes up thinking it's the best 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.200 day every single day. Where does that mentality come from? 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.480 I have no idea, Like it is he is unicorns rainbows, 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.600 Like this morning he goes, like, first thing I woke 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.160 up to today was it's no oing. Like he's like, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.080 buddy the Elf. I'm like, that reminds me of Elf, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.680 Like like he's never seen snow in his life. Like 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.440 it's so cute. It's so cute, So that has to 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.119 you have the same infectious personality also though, like you're 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:19.280 always glass half fool, optimistic. I'm a happy kid. I 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.280 mean so seriously, you are like sitting on a rainbow, 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:30.079 not skittles. I just pictured the little kid on like DreamWorks, 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:31.959 like going fishing from the moon, and I'm like, yeah, 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.320 it kind of feels like that. So Okay, since you 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.800 guys have such an optimistic personality, how do you guys 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.600 deal with this music industry? Because not every day is 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:46.080 an optimistic day, So how do you navigate this wild industry? 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.160 And you guys have something, You'll have something really special 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.760 because you are always by russell side, Like y'all are 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.800 a true partnership and you are on the road with 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:54.840 him constantly, which a lot of women would have a 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.760 hard time doing. Yeah, I love it. Okay, so you're 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:59.520 made for it. I love it. Yeah, I have five 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.480 older brother so the only girl, and we traveled so 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.240 hardcore for soccer for them that I lived in a 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.000 van with a bunch of boys. This is normal for now. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.200 I just live in a bigger van with a bunch 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:16.040 of boys. Actually love it. I really do love it. Yeah, 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:21.000 it's yeah, it's not an industry that's always rainbows and unicorns. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.240 But I feel like we've known for so long and 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.080 had to fight for everything. We knew he was supposed 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.159 to do that, even the things that we were like 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.840 praying for so hard, like we want this, we want that, 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.680 and even when they didn't happen, it was like, Okay, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.440 they're not supposed to happen. So it's just the lands 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:43.080 is like everything works together for the good always, you know, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.000 so like we we actually laughed about that the other day, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.839 like he really wanted to think called on the verge 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.120 for radio, and we were praying for it for years. 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:53.840 You know, we're like, oh, we'll get that. You know. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.279 On the verge is where all the radio stations decide 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.159 to play your songs. You're like, you're single, So we 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.320 were like definitely, we're definitely. You have to be like 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.320 a first artist has to be your first thing and 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.440 he didn't get it, and we were so bummed, and honestly, 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.760 looking back, I'm really we're thankful. Like now we're like, oh, 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.040 I'm actually kind of glad that we built those relationships 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.320 the hard way and like did it the long way. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.760 And now the second time around, it was it was 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.560 better and it was I don't know, we just we 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.080 thought it just wasn't our story. And for some people 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.920 it like skyrockets them into the stratosphere and it's great. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.479 It's everyone's story is so different, but we're grateful for 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.720 how ours has. You know, is turning up. God is 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.520 a big part of y'all's journey. You always talk about God. 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.560 I know that this is this is like the centerpiece 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.039 of y'all's life, career. Marriage. Where does that come from? 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.120 We both grew up in the church, so his dad 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.160 is a worship pastor in Nashville. At would want Baptist. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.159 Where we got married in some preacher's kids turned the 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.440 other way and getting wild and crazy. We both had 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.320 our We definitely had our. I don't I know I 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.680 had a I don't think I believe in God anymore faith. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.760 I had that phase in high school and he never did. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.599 He is just like the most faith like they say, 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.239 like faith is a gift. He has the gift of faith, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.120 just blind, total faith. I I'm always gonna think of 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.920 him like Butt of the Elf now forever. Yeah, oh yeah, 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.200 he really is. He really is, just not in the 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:26.520 jump suit, but he's like world's best coffee congratulations. Um. Yeah. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.080 So I grew up Pastor's sister, and so because my 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.359 brother is basically old enough to be my dad, Okay, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.359 because yeah that's what you said. Your oldest brother is 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.440 twenty years older. So he was my youth pastor. He 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.839 like was really foundational in my beliefs and my parents 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.360 are Christians, but he was more hands on, went to seminary. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.560 I was learning all these things with him that I 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.720 thought were so interesting, and then I had a moment 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.040 where I was like I don't think this is real. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.560 And then I was like, oh no, this is definitely real. Okay, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.240 So what was that moment? Why did you not think 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:58.920 it was real? And then what made you brought me back? 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.800 I went to Belmont. So in my high school in Wisconsin, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.400 there were like there were Christians, but it was no 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.840 one was like I'm gonna make sacrifices for this, and 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.720 I kind of was I didn't go to all the 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.520 parties and I didn't do things that I thought like 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.600 a good Christian should do, you know. And I moved 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.040 to Nashville and I was like, there are going to 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.600 be other Christians. I'm not going to be alone. And 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.600 I got here and that didn't happen, and I was like, oh, 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.400 I think this is just something my family does. And 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.360 I was like, maybe this isn't real. And then I 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.960 kind of I didn't do anything wild and crazy to 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.040 figure it out, but all of a sudden I felt 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.600 different one day, I remember, and I was like, if 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.080 I feel different, that means there's something to feel, so 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.120 God's real. That was it. And then that was it. 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:49.080 It was just like it felt like the joy in 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:53.800 life was gone, okay, And I was like if I 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.360 if if there's something to feel like that, then God's real. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.080 I don't know, it's just that simple, yeah. And we 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.800 found each other way after that, like I had come 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.440 full circle. I was like doing missions photography and he 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.960 was leading worship at a bunch of churches and and 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.840 you were not interested in dating musician, like that was 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.960 not on the agenda. For day. No, definitely not so 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.280 when I always found them like I would say that, 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.280 but if I look at my track record, it was 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.600 all music. They were all musicians. Like what is wrong 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.760 with me? I was drawn to it. I guess I 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.720 don't know. And so I've done some stalking on you, 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.760 and obviously I know you. But so you had like 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.600 maybe not the best relationship before Russell, So you got 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.280 a little burned, and so you weren't necessarily open, especially 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:39.040 to the musician, especially to relationship. How did you You 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.720 talked about trusts a lot, like Russell told you to 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.600 trust them, but you're like, okay, you're a human. And 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.840 then finally like you've heard that God told you trust 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.679 Where did that all come from? And you're so good 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.920 at hearing signs from God, like hearing hearing God speak 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:53.960 to you, He comes to you and dreams, He comes 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.599 to you and signs. I want to talk to you 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.720 about that because I think that's incredible. But so like, 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.559 how did that come? Where you knew you had to trust? 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.640 And like the to the leap you're gonna take? I 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.480 I would always pray that if it wasn't God's best, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.080 whoever I was dating after that, guy. After I got burned. Um, 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:11.800 I was like, if this isn't your best for me, God, 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.400 just take him. And every single time he did, like 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.040 within like two weeks. That's what I love about Your 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.000 faith is like you ask and it gets answered. Well 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.239 he's like that though in my obviously in my experience, 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.640 but you trust so well, you trust so fully that 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.319 the answer is coming. Well, it came from hard decisions 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.720 like breaking up with that guy. Honestly was like, God, 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.160 if if he's not going to be faithful, like I 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:40.560 always had a fear of that and with him specifically, Um, 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:42.640 and if that's going to be the trajectory of my 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.080 life and I'm gonna have kids and this is going 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.400 to happen, I need it to happen now. Yes, get out, 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.320 and no joke. In the two years we had dated, 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.079 he had never cheated on me. And after I prayed 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:56.439 that he cheated six times. Wow, And I was like, okay, 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.880 So it took a hard thing. I broke up with 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.600 a guy I thought I was going to marry. And 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.800 it's not like rainbows here and God speak, because that 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.640 sucked a lot. But then when it came to rebuilding 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.480 my heart and trusting someone again. I was like, all right, well, 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.839 God save me the last time. He'll do it again. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:17.960 And it's actually a really cool story. I got to 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.960 call him probably years later because I was in church 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.720 and I was like, God, what's like between us? Like 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.800 is there anything? Like I'm holding on too? Like just 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.320 talk to me basically, and how do you talk to God? 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.599 How do you kiss? In my mind? How does he 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.280 answer you? How do you know when he's giving you 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.720 an answer? You just know? Like it's almost like someone 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.360 it's like you think of something you didn't think of, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:42.679 so all of a sudden, I thought will come across 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.840 my mind that I know I didn't generate. And there's 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.640 faith in that too, because sometimes you're like, no, I'm 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.800 just thinking that, and then you just trust it and 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.480 see what happens and if it's not him, it'll show itself. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.600 But in this case it was. And he was like, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.120 you don't believe I won't let you down, and I 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:06.520 was like whoa and all knowing response, Yeah, it's like 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.280 some people. Everyone's different. Everyone here's got different. The feelings 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.880 are dreams are In this case, he doesn't always speak 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.720 like that to me, but when I asked, he usually 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:22.080 says something, and so I I was like, immediately thought 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.400 of my ex and I was like, oh my gosh, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.839 I I prayed for this and all this time I 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.800 thought that you hurt me and let me date someone 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.320 who would hurt me, when really and he immediately was like, 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.640 I saved you. And I was like, whoa, you didn't 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.719 let me down. You saved me. And so immediately I 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.640 remembered I had prayed for it, and I thought of 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:49.560 how he must still be feeling um because he would 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.480 come to town for the next year and try and 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.760 get me back. And you were like, strong on it 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.320 not happening. You made your mind, you were done. I 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.640 was done. Ye also, and what you found like he 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.760 cheated on you six times, And I honestly was willing 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.760 to forgive him. And then I remembered what I had prayed, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.280 and I was like, oh my bad, Like I forgot. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.199 I totally forgot. Yeah, And I was like, I can 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.200 forgive you. And anyway, it's this is the real, the 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:17.240 real deal story. And so I called him years like 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.400 years later. Russell and I maybe were married at this point, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.920 and we were in church and he was actually leading 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.080 warship and I walked out and I prestled us. Yeah, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.320 And I called my ex and I was like, Hey, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.120 I just want you to know that that wasn't you, Like, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.440 we weren't supposed to be together and I wasn't going 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.720 to see it other than that, and I just want 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:40.120 to release you from thinking that you you messed everything up. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.240 And I was like, I prayed for this to happen 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.920 if we weren't supposed to be together, and it happened, 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.640 and it's not your character and it's not who you 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.720 are and you're not gonna you know, all of a sudden, 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.720 he's crying on the phone. I'm crying on you gave 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:56.040 him serious like forgiveness and freedom, and I was like, 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:57.559 this is not going to be your future. I mean 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.160 it's shifted into like prophesying over his life. I'm like, 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:02.839 this is not who you are, this is not who 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.280 you're going to be. You're going to be a great 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:07.160 dad and a great husband and and just kind of 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.920 let him go, and I mean he was crying, I 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.000 was crying, and what a release though. It was a 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.480 really special thing actually, and then for him to have 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.440 that forgiveness for me, you know, and to think that 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.640 like he doesn't have to be that person and he 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.360 want he's married as a kid, like he's just a 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:30.040 good dude. I hope, I think you know, so I've 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.000 gone through like the hard stuff with God, that that 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.200 good stuff is that much sweeter, and so are you 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.120 able to see the hard stuff now as part of 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.720 God's good plan? Totally. That's something I've been learning lately, 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.520 is because I used to think things were good or bad, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.520 like if something like bad happens, you know, especially in 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.400 this industry, this wild industry, like it's a ruler cristal ride, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.440 and I would be like, oh, things don't go according 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.120 to plan. And even with my own career, I've had 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.080 a wild career in the industry. It's like so many 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.440 things have blown up in my face. And in the 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.880 beginning it crushed me, Like when it first started happening, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:05.560 I was like, how can this happen? In my life? 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.440 Is over? How will we ever like move on? And 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:15.400 then comes this next wave of lessons of learning, of 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.719 things getting answered in ways that could have never been 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:22.760 answered if if something bad per se hadn't happened, And 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.880 it's made me realize that things really aren't bad. You 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.160 just have to be willing to find the message in them, 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:32.400 and it's all for the good. It's all for the good, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.600 and we just expect that God is going to do 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.440 things in a way that feel right to us. But 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.240 God teaches this lessons in all different ways totally, and 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.600 a lot of them hurt. It's not like his goal 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.640 for our lives isn't that it's like sunshine and unicorns. 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.120 It's not. It's that we are good people and we're 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.960 humble people, and that we love others well. And sometimes 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.080 the hard stuff force you to do those things and 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.200 see what really matters and what doesn't matter. And you 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.720 see it. You're in Africa with little kids who are 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.720 smiling bigger than anyone you've ever seen in your life, 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.840 and all they have is a deflated soccer ball. Like 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.480 there are things in this life that we think matter 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.960 that don't at all. They just don't. They don't. And 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.000 I think that perspective is what really opens our eyes 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.840 to it. I totally agree, and I've like this year 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.640 my word has been surrender because well it's just like 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.360 I always have so many plans and I still have 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.440 so many plans, and I still have so many goals, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.280 and like I want my life. I know how I 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.320 want my life to look because I very visionary in 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.240 my mind. But also I'm like, some of the greatest 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.120 things that ever happened to me have been so off course, 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.120 you know. So it's just like I'm trying to just 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.920 let it all roll and if something happens that rocks 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.160 my world, just get the lesson figure out why it happened. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.720 And sometimes being humbled is such a good thing too. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.400 I'm thankful to Like, even if I hadn't had that heartbreak, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.640 how would I ever relate to other girls who have 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.960 been heartbroken? You know? And what if you you might 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.480 not even appreciate Russ. I'm happy he is. You might 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.120 just think that's how people are, just like that. No 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:08.000 they're not. They're not. But yeah, like I'm just so 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.720 even so Russ and I even broke up while we 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.280 were dating, okay, or I'll just just test it out 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.240 to make sure. When I broke up to we were 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.640 just we just graduated college. He was about to take 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.360 off and be this superstar and I was I was 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:27.160 still figuring my stuff out too, And so even when that, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.920 even when that ended, I still was praying God, if 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.080 this is not your best, if this isn't your best 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.200 for me, like take him. And so when that happened, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.160 I was like, okay, maybe it's not Russell. And I 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:42.440 just had so much peace because I had already done this, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.200 you know, and I'd already in so in turn, I 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.600 didn't get all clingy on him and be like but 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.200 but no, no, no, we're supposed to be together. We're 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.240 supposed to be together. Your faith was strong. I just 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.760 let him go. I let him go, and and uh, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.120 I prayed for him and prayed. I was like I 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.320 would still be like if it's if it him, bring 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.240 him back. If it's not, I don't want him. And 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.240 sure enough, within about a month he came back and 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.080 he called me on Thanksgiving. While in that month I 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.480 was like, I'm thankful for you, and I was like, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:15.240 excuse me, what why are you calling me here? Like 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.960 I don't know, I just thought about you and I 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.639 just wanted to tell you a thankful for you. It's 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.080 like okay. Because he was like we'll be friends. I 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.440 was like, oh, hell no, I've never been one of 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.479 those people to friends of excess. No. I was like, 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.840 you do not get both, my friends, you do not 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.679 get both. And and I think that honestly helped a 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.520 lot because I could just really let him go and 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.720 I wasn't half there, half not and not lukewarm. Yeah. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.760 I was like, you're all in or you're not. And 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.560 he came back and it was all in. And then 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.199 how long until you get married? After that? He proposed 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.639 a year in a month or so after that, and 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.320 then we got married three months after that. As soon 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:58.040 as we were engaged, was a very very we were like, 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.480 let's just let's get married. Weren't living together there, you know, 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.159 we were like, we're so excited to be married. I didn't. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.520 I wasn't excited about a wedding, like I really. I 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.200 was like this sounds so stressful, especially as the only girl. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.520 I was like, pressure is on, and I was like, 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.440 I have kind of a low key wedding. There's six 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:22.119 hundred people, Oh my god, receptions. No, I'm not a 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.520 very anxious person, which also I think helps with this 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.120 whole road because of your faith that you don't have anxiety. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.520 Probably probably you're so solid in your faith four hours 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.720 a day. No, there's plenty of times I'm like hello God, 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.960 Hello ding ding being right here. You know, there's plenty 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.280 of times. But or when a friend of mine just 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.720 went through something so hard. And there are plenty of 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.200 times I'm like, God, where are you in this? Because 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.960 this is not good and because life happens and we're 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.040 not in heaven so it's just not going to be 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:57.320 heaven here and I understand that, but um, yeah, there's 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.480 plenty of times that I'm like, hello, this isn't cool. Yeah, 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.199 this is really really hard. And there were plenty of 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.199 times in his career the last five years we've been 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.400 like where are you? I know, I know. I think 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.240 though that everyone has that journey, especially it's okay, it's 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.040 more human beings. Like if anyone tells you they never 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.320 question anything anytime, I'd be like concerned unless their rustle 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.480 and they have the gift of faith. Like I mean, 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.440 he just really is like a fairy and God is 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.600 everywhere And what's so cute? What would it be to 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.919 be like him for a day? I don't know, I 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.840 don't know. I'm honestly kind of scared. Like his he 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.359 has serious a d D c oh, it's like ping ping, ping, 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.520 ping ping. It's so funny. We were just talking about 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.240 how he's starting his vlog, which who knows if this 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.840 will ever even happen. I'm going to be honest because 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.680 his d D is like I'm super into this right now, 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.320 and then yeah he's doing the whole thing. Okay, but 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.400 it's like I've watched his first episode and it truly 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.520 is like insight into his brain. Okay, because this is 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.639 his actually because it's he is shooting, he's choosing what 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.879 to film's so it is like all over the place, 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.960 like it is like a trip through his brain. It's 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.520 so exciting. Yeah, it's exciting. I'm excited. I'm excited, and 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.440 I'm just glad I'm not doing it. I'm like, it's 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.720 kind of fun with the camera, babe, I'm going to chill. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.080 It's a change of roles because you're the videographer of 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:24.159 the family. Hello to CMT Number one Videos. How is 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.720 that weird? Like it's so funny. I'm super proud of 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.199 it because female directors are really rare, like really rare, 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.199 Like we were nominated for Breakthrough Video last year at 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:39.280 CMT S. Just making sure we're filming, I had to 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.680 rig my situation so it couldn't check. Yeah, we should 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:43.760 take I should take a picture of what's happening over here. 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.840 To put on. That's how I'll posts that we're doing 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:51.840 this podcast. Um. So we were nominated for CMT Breakthrough 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:55.760 Video with Yours Yes, which was purely just me and 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.840 him and our friend been driving. And that was also 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.520 a leap of faith video because at that point there 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.320