WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 12/28: Key Matchups to Watch vs. Bills, 3 Up/down vs. Broncos, Draft Talk 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.600 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.400 Lazar and Alex Barth. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:12.840 Blazar and Lazarre, Hello, everybody nailed it, Joins always buy 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:13.960 our Bara. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:19.640 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Barr. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.239 If they're going that deep, then we're in trouble, right, Like, 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:23.840 I'm not saying we're not going to talk about those 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:24.520 guys periods. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.640 Oh, I'm going to make you watch Joe. I cannot 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:29.840 wait for you to watch Joe Milton. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:31.320 I'm not saying we're not going to talk about this. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.880 I know, but Evan, I'm so excited. They cannot be 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:34.199 going that. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.960 Joe Milton is going to break your mind. So I 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:37.520 can't wait. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:41.680 That's a good way to start the show, because I 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.880 did want to start the show on the draft and uh, 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.200 Evan Lazarre, Alex Barth, Patriots Catch twenty two. Marine is back, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.519 Marine is back behind the glass. Love to see that 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.960 doing better, he said, He's living is what he said. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.680 I don't know if that's necessarily doing better, but here 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.639 we are. Everybody's like, you know, battling illness. These we're 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.200 like fighting it off and trying to stay away from it. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.039 For the next two weeks. But I want to start 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.760 with the draft and with the Patriots situation. We have 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:14.600 our inbox right now, Alex is flooded with emails with 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.959 angry Patriots fans that they're winning these games and they 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.080 won in Denver and we're gonna get to that win. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.880 We're gonna talk about some Bailey Zappy, three up, three down, 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.080 all that stuff in a second. But here's where I 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.760 want to start the show. Everybody is is. I think 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.760 there's a lot of Patriots fans. I don't want to 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.720 say everybody because then people come at me and like, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.360 it's not everybody. A lot of Patriots fans that feel 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.560 like our pal Warren here who says, guys, please stop 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.720 downplaying a high draft pick. It's pathetic that the Patriots 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:48.080 are celebrating these recent wins as well as lotting Zappi 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.920 and basically said that this is all. I don't want 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:57.280 to read all this because it's it's not very nice. Basically, 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:01.080 it says that this is a gonna say the franchise back. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.040 You know, I hear this a lot, right, Like it's 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.320 gonna set the franchise back a decade, that they're winning 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.560 these games and they're this that and the other thing. 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:10.919 I know you're pretty fired up about this outs because 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.480 you started yelling at me before. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.919 We I mean, not yelling at you, yell. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:21.639 Anyways. I here's the thing to me about this. There 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:26.000 are some let's call it intangible things that I that 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.480 I like about what I've seen from this team the 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.480 last week or so. And I get it, they're four 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.720 and eleven. Some people don't want to celebrate for any 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.800 sort of win when you're having a season like this, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.880 and I totally understand that line of thinking to an extent. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.360 But after the game in Denver, when I was in 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.919 that locker room, that did not feel like a four 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.880 and eleven team. And I don't mean that they're not 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.119 like seeing the forest for the trees that I do it, right, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.080 I'm not. I'm not saying that that's not the case, 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.240 but just there's a lot of competitive people in that 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.840 locker room. There's a lot of competitive people, and I 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.040 want to build a football team with competitive football players. 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.680 I don't want to build a football team. I'm just 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.079 going to call him out. Fill with Trent Browns, all right. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.560 I don't want that, all right. I want a football 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.440 team filled with David Andrews's right, and David Andrews Christian 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.200 Barmore three sacks in a quarter. You're telling me that 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.839 guy doesn't care, That guy doesn't isn't trying, that guy 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.120 doesn't want to win, right. I want to build my 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.960 football team with people like that. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:30.919 To top Douglas going up put his body on the 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:31.919 line to make that catch. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:36.320 I think that there's a culture element to winning, and 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.960 a culture element to all of that. But most importantly, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.720 because I don't think fans right now that are on 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.880 Warren's side of the fence, that I want to hear that, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:49.920 I think most importantly the difference is in my lack 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.000 of panic about them winning these football games compared to 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.160 some other people, is that I feel like they A 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.760 lot of people have labeled this a three player draft. 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:05.000 At the top, it's Caleb Williams, Drake may or Marvin 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.080 Harrison junior. And if the Patriots don't come away from 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.120 this draft with one of those three players, then it's 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:15.280 a failure. It's a failure, and they're they're just getting, 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.840 you know, another kind of man prize. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.160 I've heard in that so many times the last few 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.640 days that that win set the Patriots back ten years. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:23.080 Yeah. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.120 One, that's not how the NFL works. Not one single 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.840 thing that happens in the NFL has an impact that 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.120 last ten years, outside of like a rule change by 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.480 the league. The league changes too much on a week 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.200 to week, year to year basis for anything to set 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.279 you back. The only way it sets them back ten years, 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.000 Evan is if they let them And if they let 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.640 it set them back ten years. 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:45.600 I told you he was fired up. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.440 Thank you. If they let it set them back ten years, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.040 they deserve to be dragged for letting it set them 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.960 back ten years, not for winning a game. Sure. And 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.120 when I say letting it set them back, I mean 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.960 not being as aggressive as they need to be this offseason, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.120 because there's a realistic aggressiveness I think you can expect 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:02.680 from this team. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:03.080 Right. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.479 Number two, the whole thing about the three player draft. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:07.719 First off, it is a three quarterback draft. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.400 Yeah, and Jane is where I wanted to go because 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.159 I think I'm gonna give you some flowers right now. 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.800 You always tell me about these guys in like September 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.400 or October, and then I started watching them at some point, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.240 and then we get to the point of the draft 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.719 where we're really talking about Jaden Daniels and Michael Pennix 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.480 and not Caleb Williams. Everybody knows about Caleb Williams. He 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.360 won Heisman Trophy last year. We all know who Caleb 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.640 Williams is, I think, and I it was it Phil 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.560 Perry that had that segment on NBC Sports Boston about 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:43.839 the intel around the league. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.400 Yeah, this happens all the time. Love Phil was saying 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:48.039 that two weeks. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:52.520 Ago, this happens all the time. That the league knows, 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.159 the league knows that Jaden Daniels is a baller. Then 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.880 what ends up happening is is that people that cover 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.640 the NFL, like like me and cover and you and 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.159 other people. I leave you out of that. That's why 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.760 I was going, Yeah, people that cover the NFL exclusively 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.080 then catch up to the NFL, catch up to the 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.600 scouting departments and the gms and things like that around 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.720 the league. And now all of a sudden, oh, Jayden Daniels, 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.800 Like do you see this guy from LSU won the 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.719 Heisman Trophy? Like pretty good? Right? And I think that 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:28.320 that's what's what always happens, and it's just happening a 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.520 little bit earlier here because the Patriots are in the 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:32.400 position that they're. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.280 In, Right, it's happening early for us. This winning usually 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:40.120 happens this time. In twenty nineteen. Yeah, Joe Burrow was 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.960 not the first overall pick, right well, like some people 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:47.080 were talking about it, but it was still twenty nineteen. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:47.280 Yeah. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.120 Yeah, I'm saying like he kind of punched his And 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.760 that's not me saying Jane Daniels is going to become 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.479 the first overall pick. I don't think he jumps that much. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.560 But does he jump Drake May? 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:57.960 Yeah? 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.880 Does he locked him? I think he's already locked himself 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:01.960 in as a top five. Does he jump Drake May? 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.440 Does he jump Marvin Harrison? Some of it's going to 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.600 depend on the order of the draft and how that 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.040 kind of shakes out, but I think there's a real 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.160 chance of it. This is a three quarterback draft, and 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:16.040 I would even say beyond that, Caleb Williams is in 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.800 his own class in this draft. I think the tier 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.640 two quarterbacks are Drake May and Jade and Daniels, and 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.920 I think the gap between May and Daniels is smaller 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.360 than the gap between Williams and May. I think there 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.880 is then a third tier that I would call elite 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:39.400 offensive non quarterbacks, and that is Marvin Harrison, brock Bauers, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:44.440 Joe All. I think all for he's one step so 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:50.720 I would put Olshanu with like Malik Neighbors, and he's 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.480 two steps down. I'd put him with Malik Neighbors and 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.360 Roma Dunes and like that group. And then there's one other. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.160 This isn't really a uprated tier. It's kind of to 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:06.000 the side. There's a defensive version of the Harrison Bowers. Well, no, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.040 I just want to I want to know. I don't 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:09.920 want people to think I'm saying Dallas Turner sucks and 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.280 kool Aid mcinstrey sucks, because they're very good players, but 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.840 they're like the brock Bowers, Marvin Harrison, Joe alt Tier 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:16.320 on the other side of the pot. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.760 I hear what you're saying. I'm glad you set it 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.680 up for people to understand. Yeah. But well, but here's 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:22.880 the thing. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.120 Let me just say that. Let me just say this. Yeah, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.280 brock Bauer, I think specifically, not brock guys. I think 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.480 specifically Dallas Turner, kool Aid mckinstrey, in lay too, La 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.440 Tou from UCLA and maybe you throw Jared Verson here. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.240 We'll see we test those four players are actually very 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.440 important for the Patriots in this draft because. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:42.440 They could go higher. 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.480 Is there a team that's simply sitting there saying we 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.960 need defense? And does one of those guys shoot up 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.800 the board and bump Jayde and Daniels if the Patriots 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.880 win another game, let's say they beat the Jets, bump 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.640 Jayde Daniels down a spot, bump Joe Alt down a spot. 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.120 I know it annoys you to talk about those guys 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.400 because you don't think the Patriots should draft them, And 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.960 that's all well and good. We have to adjust our 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.520 approach this year because we sort of just do this 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:09.000 by default when the Patriots are picking fifteenth, twentieth, twenty fifth, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.679 that there's just certain guys at the top that we 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.880 let go of every single pick. Now, anytime you're in 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.440 the top ten, you have to look at from that 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.480 angle where it is still important for us to follow 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.040 the progress of a guy like Dallas Turner, even if 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.560 the Patriots aren't gonna draft him, because does he jump 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.920 into the top five, Because even if the Patriots aren't 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.520 taking him, that changes the outlook. But you're gonna have 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.000 to listen to me talk about that's what I'm saying. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.040 You can't shoot me down when I talk about which. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.600 Is what you just tried to do. I. Yeah, the 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.959 thought of the Patriots taking a defensive player in the 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.240 first round makes me want to puke. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.040 I'm not rolling that out entirely if Bill's comes back, 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:45.840 but I'm with you that they shouldn't do it. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:49.440 That's entirely so. I think that that's the biggest difference 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.400 is that if you are locked into the fact that 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.480 those three guys Caleb, Drake May, Marvin Harrison Junior are 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:03.960 the only three guys that you feel are worth you know, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.520 I don't want to say worth drafting, but just that's 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.760 all that gets you excited. Is if one of those 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.800 three guys is a Patriot, then I can understand why 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.440 you're upset that they're winning football games. I just don't 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.600 feel that way, and I really, I think you put 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:23.160 it perfectly about I feel that the gap between Drake 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.200 May and Jaden Daniels is not that large. I really 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.440 felt that when we talked about Drake May a lot 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.960 last week, Yeah, and talked about some of the things 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.080 that I feel a little bit worried about with Drake May. 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:36.679 Last week do you. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:37.920 Want to update any of that now that you watch 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:38.600 the Virginia game. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.760 I feel the same way. Okay, I feel the same way. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.319 I just want to give you that opportunity. Yeah, I 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.360 feel the same way. And now I feel like I've 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.080 I've watched enough of Drake May that I have a 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.960 lot of notes on him, and I feel like I'm 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:54.239 almost like done with Drake May, which is amazing. In December. 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.280 It makes me feel good. I'm like way ahead of 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.400 schedule here. Anyways, with Drake May, I I feel the 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.800 same way, and that is that I really he is 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.720 a ball of clay and he's going to need a 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.199 lot of refinement with his mechanics and with his accuracy 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:17.560 to be a consistently good NFL quarterback. The flashes are phenomenal, 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:22.000 like the big time throw ability, the mobility, the off platform, 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:26.840 all that kind of stuff is phenomenal, but he has 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:31.240 some warts to his consistency in pocket mechanics that he's 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.319 going to need to work on. Whereas with Jayden Daniels, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.160 I think that there are warts with him as a 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:41.240 passer right now that exists just with his playing style. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.480 But at the same time, his mobility is such an 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.079 elite trait that that's a carrying trade of phase that 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.840 he's every single time he drops back the pass. They're 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.160 going to be playing eleven on eleven and the defense 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.040 is going to have to worry about the quarterback and 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.000 account for the quarterback. Like what he did against Alabama 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.320 scrambling was ridiculous. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.280 That's when he became a top ten pick. Like that game, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.440 he looked like a top ten pick. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.600 And I remember watching that game a little bit live 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.480 and and Saban saying at halftime that they were playing 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.680 a lot of match coverage, and when they were playing 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.679 match coverage that you know, Lsu was just kind of 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.160 running verticals down the field and getting guys to turn 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.440 their backs to the quarterback. And he said, we only 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.880 had one spy in the middle of the field, and 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.880 the one spy wasn't good enough, Like he couldn't you know, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.920 one linebacker is not going to be able to tackle 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.600 Jayden Daniels in the open field, and he just carved 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.800 them up. I think Jayden Daniels is the best scrambling 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.760 quarterback that I've seen in the draft since Lamar, Like 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.120 he's he's that dynamic as a runner. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:42.400 I don't want to take away from him as a 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.360 pastor though, and like he has his warts, like you said, 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.520 but a lot of it feels coachable and he still 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.880 is a guy that can Like he's a threat with 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:49.480 the deep ball. 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.120 Yeah, the threat. Oh yeah, he's probably the best. Uh. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.040 I wouldn't say he's the best deep ball because that's 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.520 probably Penixa. Yeah. I think he's he's really good on 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.880 the deep ball. Yeah. And I think that his game 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:05.200 is really really similar to Lamar's at Louisville. It is, 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.120 and they both won the Heisman Trophy, so they both 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:11.000 pread up the numbers, and I think that they're really similar. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.320 I still think he's more advanced as a prospect than 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.240 Lamar was. Let's not say he's gonna better than Lamar, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:15.600 but Lamar. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.080 I want, I just wonder if he's more advanced than 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.240 Lamar because we're five years forward of like how to 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.080 scheme with that type of no I I. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.480 Remember like Lamar sprayed it a little bit more like 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.280 his accuracy was Lamar, So like like Lamar with let 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.359 me let me all right, let me rephrace that. Yeah, 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.720 Jane Daniels is more advanced as a passer than Lamar 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.320 was coming out Lamar is obviously much better as a runner. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.280 He's better than everybody is a runner. Like, yes, you know, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.400 but I I remember, like Lamar, there was some underneath 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.320 stuff that where it was just like three step, hit 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.840 the back foot and throw, and like that didn't come 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.880 for him until year two or three in the NFL. Right, 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.280 Daniels isn't amazing at that. I'm not going to have 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.240 him necessarily run like just a you know, quick game offense, 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.480 but like I feel like he's better in that regard. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:03.360 Yeah, Lamar Lamar head footwork problems. That's his platform was 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.720 really really narrow and he didn't really didn't allow him 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.200 to control the football. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.240 Jane Daniels mechanics, they could be tightened up a little bit. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.599 But like he gets the I love how quick he 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:13.440 gets the ball out and as. 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.800 Usually does, he does have a quick release. I would 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.240 be ecstatic with the Patriots drafting Jayden Daniel. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.520 Oh you would. You'd be doing backflips. Yeah, I've said this. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.720 I said that when we first start talking about him, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.280 you're like, yeah, he's a good players, like this is 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.320 going to be your guy. Yeah, I know that he 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.560 is going to be your guy. I want to say 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.680 one more thing, and you talk about Lamar there, and 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.000 it kind of goes to the point for everybody saying, oh, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:36.760 you know, if you can't get even if you don't 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.760 believe in Jade Daniels, and maybe you have some legitimate 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.840 football concerns with Jadan Daniels and you do think it's 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:46.120 Kayleb Williams and Drakeman the draft and the other thing. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.520 So what I've said is, even if they win another game, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:52.120 fall back in the draft a little bit. The criticism 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.720 should not be that they want a game. The criticism 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.000 should be they failed to trade up and get aggressive 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.080 and getting the guy they believe is their future. If 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.080 there's a quarter of a any player, I guess, if 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.920 there's any player on the board that you think this 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.200 guy is going to be the reason we win a 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.560 Super Bowl? Is there anything that's too much to get him? 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.560 So here's where I would slip back on that a 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:16.040 little bit, because I fear I hear the trade up argument. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:21.600 Ye I fear that trading up is a move that 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.200 a team like the Carolina Panthers just did and you 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.400 have to be so sure. 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.440 So obviously that's what I'm saying, Like, because Carolina is 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.280 a terrible That's what I'm saying. And Bryce Young wasn't 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.240 worth trading up for. But if if if the Patriots 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:36.960 look at Shane Daniels, they look at Trake may Or, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.200 they look at Marvin Harrison, and they say, this is 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.040 the guy, this is the guy we're gonna build the 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.800 next ten years around. We know we can do it. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.560 Is there any prate now? If they don't believe in them, 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.320 then don't But there's no reason. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.360 That you I don't know if there, I don't know 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.360 if you can say that, Like, I feel like that's 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.880 no reason to put it that way. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.680 There's no Well, but then you shouldn't be taking the 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.160 guy anyway. If you don't truly believe him, shouldn't be 0:15:59.160 --> 0:15:59.840 taking the guy anything. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.600 I just think there's a difference between giving up like 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:04.240 Caroline and Panthers. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.600 Okay, but it's not I'm not saying trade up to one. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.400 I'm not saying trade up to twenty. I'm talking about 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.720 moving up from like five to three. Oh yeah, that's 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.200 I mean, maybe that's it's I'm not saying forced the 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.600 way up to get Killableyes, but let's let's say they 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.160 believe Jane Daniels is the guy, and they know they 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:20.840 get they need to get to three to get Jade 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.560 Daniels And they're sitting there at four and jayde and 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.640 Daniels goes three. You can't just say, aw shucks, well 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.760 we needed the third pick, we have the fourth. Nothing 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.960 we can do about it, Like, you can't do that. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.440 And when I give that argument, some people say, well, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.200 all the teams above the Patriots need quarterbacks, So why 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.240 is a team that needs a quarterback going to trade out? 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:40.520 It's adorable. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.520 People think the NFL draft is that predictable. It really is. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.400 If the both in terms of what teams are gonna 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.640 do in who the players are going to become. If 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:54.200 the NFL draft was that predictable, be no fun. Who 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.800 had the Texans trading up to the third pick last year? 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.480 Or after picking right back to back, picking back to back, 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:01.120 second and third? 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:01.800 Who had that? 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.720 Yeah? And so just to go through it real quick, Chicago, 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:07.520 it looks like he's gonna get the first overall pick 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.520 via Carolina. Yep, that right away. Not a team that 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.840 I'm convinced is going to take a quarterback. I look, 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.840 there's really strong arguments both ways for Chicago. Right fields 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.480 Fields is starting to play. Well, do you go out, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.440 do you get him a real pass catcher, whether it's 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:27.000 Harrison or Bowers and one of the tackles in whatever 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.040 order you do, that will dictate. But do you go 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:30.600 out to get him a real pass protect or a 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.560 real weapon? And okay, like here we go, we move 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.800 forward with this guy, or is it, hey, you know 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.800 we can get a rookie quarterback. We can reset the 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.720 clock on the rookie quarterback contract. We'll go out and 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.800 get Kayleb Williams. Not a decision I would want to make. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:43.359 It's a very tough decision. I don't think you can 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.720 go wrong. But yeah, not necessarily a team that's going 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.320 to want on a quarterback. Arizona not totally sold that 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.359 they're going to be on a quarterback. They o Kyler 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.480 Murray a lot of money, and they may just say, 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.280 you know what, let's get some pieces around him and 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:00.440 keep building. He's looked competitive here this season. Washington definitely. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.400 Washington is definitely a quarterback team. You have the Giants 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.159 in there. I don't believe the Giants will be a 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.560 quarterback team. It is really hard to give Daniel Jones 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.320 one hundred whatever million dollars and then come back. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:12.640 The Giants might be a quarterback. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.680 I don't think they can't be. They can't. They are, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.000 but not in the first round they are. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.240 That is I think you you if you as an organization, 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:21.000 you eat it. 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.119 Like you can't get. The is not going to go 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:24.359 for that. He's not like that. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.160 Broncos are about to eat Russell Wilson's cond that's. 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.320 Two that's two years later. It's it's it's just it's 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.680 just they are a day two quarterback team. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.639 You have You've seen enough from Daniel Jones in New 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:37.560 York to know that that guy is not it. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.560 Okay, so fine, Washington. The Giants, who the Patriots are 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.040 ahead of Chargers, are not a quarterback. It would be 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.480 shocked now, frankly, if the Charges are a quarterback team. No, 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.800 they're not a quarterback. Don't the Patriots should be the 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.600 team that traded for Justin Herbert Tennessee might be. I 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:53.280 kind of feel like Rabel likes Will Levis. 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.280 Yeah, I would think that they're more like ahead your 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:56.680 bed on day two. 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.159 Right, right, and again that's right, but the Giants and 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.040 then you have the Bears again, and the Jets are 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.240 a quarterback team obviously, but they're a couple wins behind 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:10.000 the Patriots, so really stamp on it. I mean, there's 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.240 four teams that could be I think there's two teams 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:15.520 that definitely are in an ideal world right now, and 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.720 things are gonna change. An ideal world right now. People 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.879 say the Patriots can't get a quarterback. Washington trades up 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.920 from three to one. That move makes all the sense 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.760 in the world. They have an owner that wants to 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.720 get aggressive, that wants to go out that work Carol 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:32.119 Splash right, Caleb Williams is from DC, so you talk 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.399 about like a unique fit there. Washington moves up from 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:39.000 three to one. They get Caleb Williams. Let's see, Drake 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.720 May goes two. Whether it's Arizona or it's another team 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.119 trading up there, Drake May goes two. Whiteboard for this 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.760 Chicago at three. I'm Charlie Kelly with Pepe. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.600 Sylvia'd like a. 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:55.760 Chicago down three. They're gonna take either Alt or Harrison 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.520 for Caleb Williams, and then the Patriots are sitting there 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.320 on the board Jane Daniels's they're at four. That to 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.720 me is a very realistic situation and I know people 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.120 think to bring it back to the original point, Kayla Williamstrake, 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.080 May Kyla Williams Strake, May Patriots get Jane Daniels at four, 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.119 people should be doing backflips in the streets. 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.240 Okay. Uh, I'm gonna and then I really do want 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.160 to talk about the actual current team. 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:17.480 Uh. 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.000 The The last thing I'm gonna say is gonna be 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.240 an unpopular opinion, But I'm just gonna say it anyways, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.600 because I as an as an offensive line guy, Alex, 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.280 I have to say it. I have to tell you 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.320 that taking the tackle is not a bad move for 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:31.680 the fit. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.160 It is if if all let's say all three quarterbacks 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:36.760 are gone, it's the move. 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.960 I don't even it's not even about that, like because 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.159 you have to Again, I like Jayden Daniels. You like 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.199 Jayden Daniels, but they have to like j Daniels. You 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.080 have to be sold on that on a guy like that. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.240 I'm not taking Zach Wilson just to take a quarterback, right, Okay, true, 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:57.520 but that's my point and I'm not thinking je Daniels. Okay, 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.760 But the point being is is that I I'm gonna 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:05.680 have an unpopular opinion on this I I really would strongly, 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.440 strongly entertain the tackle. So do you remember even over 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:10.000 a quarterback? 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.359 Okay, I wouldn't go that far, But do you remember 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.600 a couple of weeks ago I said on Patriots Beat 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.840 Joe Alt over Marvin Harrison, and some guy called in 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:18.760 because he couldn't understand it, and I said, this is 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.560 gonna be a real conversation. Yeah, I'm with you on 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:22.600 the unpopular opinion. 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:26.280 Like, okay, maybe maybe saying over quarterbacks to stretch. I 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:30.560 am a hooker. If I'm an over tackle over Marvin, here's. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.840 What I would say if and tell me if you agree, 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.120 because I don't want to put words in your mouth. 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:38.359 But if it's Joe Alt or a quarterback you don't 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.680 fully believe in, Yeah, Joe Walt, is that what you're saying? Basically, 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:43.160 I would agree with you on that. Now, if it's 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:45.320 let's say they buy into Jayde and Daniels and they say, 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.840 this is our you know, we missed on on Lamar 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.080 Jackson in twenty eighteen, here's our chance to get right. 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.560 Then you take Jayde Daniels all day. Yeah, But if 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.920 they're like Jane Daniels, he gets hurt a lot Drake 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.280 may super inconsistent. But Joe Alt, You're like, this is 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.679 a Hall of Fame left tackle. Yeah, then yeah, you 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:02.480 take absolutely, And even if they think Marvin Harrison is 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.440 also a Hall of Fame wide receiver, Joel. 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.560 I would just look at the way that the league 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.520 is trending in the good teams in the league, and 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.879 it's you would be really hard pressed to find a 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:21.000 team right now that you could say legitimately has a 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.200 chance to win the Super Bowl that has a bad 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:28.120 offensive line. It doesn't exist. And I could more easily 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:32.639 find a team that doesn't have the quarterback in the 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:39.080 traditional sense, the elite quarterback San Francisco and Detroit right 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.520 and say that that team has a legitimate chance to 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.600 win a Super Bowl with Brock Purdy because Trent Williams 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:48.520 is his starting left tackle, or in Detroit where the 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.280 whole offensive line is is a bunch of. 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.800 The age, I think, and you can speak more to 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.680 why this is happening schematically, like teams going more too 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.800 high and things like that, the age of get a 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.320 dominant quarterback. He's going to over five thousand yards every year, 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.760 You're gonna be in the AFC Championship Game. NFC Championship 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:05.919 game every year. It's trending away from that. I'm not 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:09.760 saying that quarterbacks no longer important. It still absolutely is, 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.120 but you are starting to see a trend back towards 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:14.640 more well rounded football. 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.520 Yeah. And I just think that you need to be 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.439 you need to be mindful of the fact that this 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:24.440 Patriots team is not necessarily a rookie quarterback away from 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:26.639 being a Super Bowl competitor. 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.240 And I think, but I think they're a strong offseason 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.880 away from being like a potential nine to ten win team. 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.480 Maybe, but I think that I would rather and I 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:36.679 think this is what they did in twenty one, and 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:38.520 I think this is a big reason why it didn't 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:43.159 work in twenty one. They went for the instant gratification method. 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.439 They spent like crazy and free agency, they drafted a 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.960 first round quarterback, and it worked off the top, right, 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.480 they win ten games, they go back to the playoffs. 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.800 I'm much more interested this time around. And sustainability, well, 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.159 because they stopped, they stopped. They didn't add anybody the 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:03.280 next two years. Fine, but I really feel like in general, 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:07.679 they went for a quick fix, and I want a 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:11.800 sustainable model. And I think building the offensive line building out, 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.800 the pieces around the quarterback and all that type of 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.720 stuff is still important. And I look at Joe alt, 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.320 I know that you know you like Joe Altover Forshanu. 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:24.239 I probably will too eventually, so I think, but I 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.720 think both of those guys are blue chip type. They're 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:27.399 very close. 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:32.600 Fishanu probably has a little more ceiling, but like there's 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.520 a little more variance and there's a little more risk 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.120 where all like you're getting a guy that's gonna step 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.879 in and he's gonna be starting left tackle for for 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.320 ten fifteen years. He's gonna make a couple of Pro Bowls, 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.960 might make an All Pro team or tours. Like Fashanu 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.160 might just be like an average starting tackle. He might 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:53.960 be a perennial All Pro. But his more variance with 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.600 it alto his better size. He has more experience, He's 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.160 been a cleaner player. The real difference for me is 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.800 who had a really rough game against Ohio State, which 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.760 is I mean not in past protection. He got seven pressures? 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.560 Oh did he really? Yeah, the guy hasn't allowed a 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:11.840 sack in like three years now. 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:13.760 He allowed a lot of pressures though, Yeah, I mean 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:20.399 he got uh Jack Sawyer and uh, I like to all, 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.040 who I forget the other guy's name, Like those are 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.520 both top one hundred draft pick at Like those are 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.760 going to be right, Ohio State hit guys, right, we 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:27.200 know how they. 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:34.439 He's certainly is uh, he's he's an athletic specimen, but 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:36.760 he's his technique and things like that are a little 0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:40.440 bit more raw. Joe Alt is like your your prototypical 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:44.280 ready made starting left tackles and set it and forget 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:48.159 it right. Whereas Fishan who has a huge upside to 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.560 him because of his athleticism. 0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:55.000 So sorry Pffshan who against Ohio State didn't allow sack, 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.560 but he allowed six pressures, so not seven, but he 0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:59.720 allowed ten all year. So that's the thing. It's like 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.720 he the one bad game he had, but it's against 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.560 I mean great he plank. He had a clean sheet 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:07.640 against you Mass okay sick. 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.159 Okay, oh my god, he played more than just you 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:09.720 Mass on it. 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.280 But like they didn't really play like hell had one pressure, 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:17.200 had one penalty against Michigan. Big ten kind of sucked 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:17.479 this year. 0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:21.000 Here here's the point though, Yeah, the point is is 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:26.159 that you still in my mind, the offensive line is 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.840 a major, major need for this team in the offseason 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:33.400 and it's twofold one. I feel as though it's very, 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.960 very difficult to build an offensive line through the veteran market. 0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.360 There's not a whole lot of surplus at offensive line. 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.879 There's certainly not a lot of good offensive line, and 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.480 especially at the tackle position. League wide, those guys don't 0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:49.280 move very often, and if they do, it either costs 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.800 you a ton of money, like toront Armstead for example, 0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:54.879 in Miami, or it's via trade like Trent Williams to 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:59.840 San Francisco. Right, those guys don't come available too often 0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.040 if you look at the free agent market that's slated 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:07.280 right now. At tackle, there's a pretty strong argument that 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:11.000 Michael Auenu as a guard playing tackle, might be the 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.640 best tackle in free agency this year. And he's sure, 0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.520 and he's your guy, right like he's already here. We 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:21.440 talked a ton about tackles in free agency last year. Mcglinchy, McGary, 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.919 Jwan Taylor, those types of they probably should have done 0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:29.639 it last year. But at the same time, Mike mcglinchy 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.280 just got his freaking lunch money handed to him by 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.400 josh Uja. Right, he's had a bad year. Mike McGlinchey 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.160 with the Broncos, and the Broncos owe him a ton 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.160 of money moving forward. So I think what you run 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.080 into the risk of is that you're going to sign 0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.840 a tackle in free agency who's really like a C 0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.880 plus player, but you're playing him a plus money. You're 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.119 playing him top of the market money, which I just 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.240 don't think is necessarily good for business. So it's I 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.080 think it's going to be really difficult to find the 0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.920 left tackle via the veteran market, whether that be trade 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.960 or free agency, and looking at their situation right now, 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.440 Trent Brown, I don't know if Trent Brown's gonna play 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.040 another down for the Patriots. 0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.040 Can I be honest with you, Yes, it would not 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.359 be the most surprising thing in the world to me 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.800 if Trent Brown came back. I don't think he's going 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:17.480 to and. 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.000 I would be absolutely floored. 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.840 I think here's the way he plays out because I 0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:25.080 played out the last few years. 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.360 I've defended Trent Brown a lot because I think when 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.880 he's when he's locked in, he's a starting caliber left tackle. 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.880 Let me be fair, this is a critique of the Patriots. 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.160 This is not a defensive Trent Brant Okay, they're gonna 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.480 get to free agency, like they don't. They clearly won't 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.080 address tackle in the draft. They won't do it at 0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:43.400 the top of the draft. They don't want to do it. 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.280 They're gonna get free agency and they're gonna see Tyron 0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:47.640 Smith and he's gonna want a lot of money. And 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.320 they're gonna see Joah Williams and he's gonna want a 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:49.760 lot of money. 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.640 Yeah, I mean, I don't even like Jonah Williams says 0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.280 all sorts of flaws. I don't even. 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.320 But my point is, like Trent Brown's gonna get free agency, 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.560 He's gonna be asking for top of the market tackle money. 0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.320 He's not gonna get it because the way it ended here, 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.280 at the end of the day, you know they it's 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:04.120 gonna be last call. 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.080 They need gonna be two people left in the bar. 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:07.520 They need to move on Patriot. 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.280 The Patriots see a starting caliber tackle they don't have 0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.560 to pay starting caliber tackle money, and Trent Brown sees 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.520 a team that's at least willing to come close to 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.560 his number, even if it is a value deal for 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:18.680 the team. They're made for each other. It is a 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.240 toxic relationship. That's how he came back last time. 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.880 They need to they need to move on from people 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.960 like Trent Brown. So they did those types of people 0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:28.920 with that type of attitude like he's not. 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.880 I know, but he's he's an affordable, starting caliber tackle. 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.960 He didn't play, he. 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.240 Didn't practice yesterday, we get the injury report, what does 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:39.560 it say? Illness? 0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:42.600 Illness? My ass right, you. 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.200 Get out kind of had a cryptic tweet that like 0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.880 suggested he was not only that, but he plays what 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.120 like twenty five snaps in the game on Sunday. He's 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.520 moving at half speed, like like everybody else is moving 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.320 faster than him. And it's not because he's three hundred 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.320 and eighty pounds because he's not trying. So again, he's 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.160 literally stopped playing. In the middle of the play with 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.080 Tayekwon Thorton on the Jets sweep, if he's if he 0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.040 throws a block, Taekwon Thorton might score. Let me. He 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.000 just he just stands there. 0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.800 I would not bring him back. They should not bring 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:13.160 him back. 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.160 I would much rather than just go with a younger 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:16.760 guy that even if they don't draft it at the 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.280 top of the draft, like draft something draft Matt Light, 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:20.880 draft somebody in the second hatter. 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.840 Paul, I'm not saying i'd bring him back. Let me 0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.480 be clear about that. For all the reasons you just 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:29.800 said they need to they need tackle like this might 0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.320 happen they've gone yeardy, all right, So do you want 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.440 PFF's top for agent tackles? By the way, just so 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.440 because this helps your Joe Alt argument. Number one, Tyron Smith, 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.720 he's like old, Yeah, he's like forty. Number two Trent Brown, 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:44.920 that's the that's the number two tackle available. And by 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.080 the way, I think that's correct based on the rest 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:47.560 of this list. 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:48.000 Yeah. 0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.960 Number three Mike go When Yeah, but he's because he 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.440 only plays right tackle, right, That's why he's below. I 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.040 do think at this point is a better option than 0:30:55.040 --> 0:31:00.400 Trent Brown. Number four, Makai Beckton, number five, Joanah Williamsnumber six, 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:05.480 Austin Jackson, number seven, Donovan Smith. Your number eight tackle 0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:10.080 available Evan Jermaine iluminor number nine George Fant who's gonna 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.440 retire He's like, what thirty eight? Yeah, this is my point. 0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.320 In number ten, Josh Jones, No, I wanted to give 0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:15.400 this to you to help you make. 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.719 My point, like where are they getting to be? 0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.040 Just to be fair, next up, Isaiah Win. 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.400 Yeah, where are they getting the tackle from? And on 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:27.480 top of the fact that the free agent market stinks, 0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.800 maybe some veteran tackle a team you know, has like 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.480 a tarn Armstead situation where the Saints had to move 0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.880 money and it wasn't gonna work and they end up 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.240 moving on from Tron Armstead and he goes to Miami. 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.440 Maybe something like that comes to fruition. But I don't 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.440 know where else the tackle is gonna come from. And 0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:47.840 right now, without Dante Scarnekia walking through the door, I 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.040 don't have any confidence in them developing tackles. So, like, 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.760 if they're gonna draft somebody, you can't just say, oh, 0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.760 we're gonna draft a tackle in the fourth round and 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.400 we're gonna turn them into a which is what they're 0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:58.160 still trying to do. 0:31:58.320 --> 0:31:58.480 Right. 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.560 You can't do that anymore because you don't have the 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.680 coaching to do that anymore. So I look, I would 0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.960 take the quarterback at the top of the draft. I'm 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.800 not arguing against that. I am just telling you that 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.520 the one way that you can finally solve what's been 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.000 probably the biggest issue for this team the last two years, 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:17.560 which is tackle, is by drafting one near the top 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.480 of the draft, because is it gonna like, I don't 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.280 know if it's going to be Adrian Klem, Is it 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.120 gonna be Billy Yates, Is it going to be another 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.040 higher you know, like who's going to be running the 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.880 offensive line. It's just the offensive line is an absolute 0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.520 rest for this team. Every single week. They have no tackles. 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:38.160 Their tackles are either hurt or weren't good to begin with, 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.320 or are also hurt right. And now you have the 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.880 situation where you're one good offensive lineman besides David Andrews, 0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.440 who by the way, might retire, and so now you 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.720 have a huge hole at center that you're filling too. 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.719 The one guy that you have that that's a solid 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.120 NFL offensive lineman is a free agent, is going to 0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.400 want the bag. So, like one hundred percent, I'm giving 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.400 the back to on Wendo. Whether he's playing, god he's 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.480 playing tackle, I don't care. But the point being they 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.680 have to find a left tackle. It can't be Trent Brown. 0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.480 You can't go down that road. It can't be Connor 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:12.280 mcdermots and Vederian Low's of the world. They need to 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.080 have a real solution at that position, and the only 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:16.600 way that they're going to do it is using a 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.000 top forty pick on one. That's the only way. So 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.560 I don't I text you last night and said, I 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.080 want to talk about the college football playoff. 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.440 I don't know if you want to do it now. 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.760 I do want to ill later. 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.400 All Right, there's guys. You need to watch a tackle 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.960 because you talk about top fifty. There's a couple guys you. 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.200 Yeah, the kid at Washington's pretty good too, right. 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.400 Troy Fatano, Yeah, so he's one of them. We'll get 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:37.560 to it. 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.560 Yeah, a couple of guys. So I do want to 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.280 talk about the current team a little bit. I think 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.680 that the two biggest things coming out. 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:44.520 Can I add one more thing on this? On the 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.760 Walt Harrison thing, everybody says, oh, you know, they can't 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.080 draft receivers. Harrison is the most can't miss receiver in 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.760 the last ten years. Like, what a perfect way for 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.080 them to just kind of hit it is. Let's say 0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.640 it's the same regime back coaching. It's Bill Belichick with 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.080 Bill Brian Troy Browns wide receivers coach, right, and everybody 0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.560 kind of says they're Marvin Harrison proof, right, Like like, 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.640 Marvin Harrison is so good, it won't matter. Yeah, are 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:10.960 we sure it's not the other way around? Is Marvin Harrison? 0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:12.400 Then proof is he's so good? 0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.839 Yes, I think they can't blow it. I think Mark 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:17.920 I don't know. I don't know about that. I think 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.279 he is now in Patriots luck, like he'll get hurt 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:21.000 or something like. 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:22.560 That, and that's one of the big knocks on it, 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.959 and they don't handle it well when young receivers get hurt. 0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.040 That's been a long time trend of theirs. Okay, but 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:32.200 I'm not worried about his talent. I just the court 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.120 the receiver. You can't draft the receiver first. It's just 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.799 not the way that the order of operations works. You're 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.520 gonna draft Marvin Harrison junior. He's not gonna have a 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.560 quarterback to throw him the ball. He's not gonna have 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.960 an offensive line to block for the quarterback. So like, 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.200 even if it's like a Bailey z appy type guy 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.600 who might be able to get him the ball with 0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.400 some protection, like, you're not gonna have the protection. So 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.680 you're gonna have Marvin Harrison Junior standing thirty yards down 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.000 the field, frustrated. 0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:59.719 It as all hell because he can't get the ball 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.080 because the quarterback in the offensive line can't get it 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.040 to him. Like what good does that do? And I 0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.480 get there's like an adding talent argument, and maybe you 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:10.120 know long term like eventually you have the quarterback and 0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.480 you have the line and now all of a sudden 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.359 you have Marvin Harrison Junior. I get that. But now 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.960 we're looking at it as like Marvin Harrison Junior is 0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.080 going to reach his potential in New England and you're 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.120 like three or four and now we're gonna have to 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.239 pay him. And now we're like already kicking that can 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:24.960 down the road. 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:26.840 What I know, you want to get off it. And 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:28.200 I keep saying one more thing, but I think it's 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.560 important for this argument. I think it's good people hear this. 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:33.880 You talk about all right, even if you don't take Joelle, 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:35.799 you still need to get the tackle like later on right. 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:36.920 Yeah. 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.319 The tricky thing about this is you can probably get 0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:41.880 the tackle whether you trade back up late in the 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:43.560 first you take him with your first second, Like, there's 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.399 gonna be a couple of good tackles on the board there. 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.759 That's it. The depth in this tackle class. The guys 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.600 sitting to go on you know, day three. In this class, 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.279 a lot of them would be undrafted in previous years. Like, 0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:59.040 it's just not a deep class at all. Wide receiver. 0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.520 On the other hand, do you know how many wide 0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.239 receivers are currently projected to go in the first round. 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.040 You don't need to name them all, No, but you 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.160 met the number we got to move on eight. Yeah, 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:09.719 and that's just in the first round. There are guys 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.239 who are gonna go in the second round. I'll give 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.479 you one guy for instance, a d Mitchell from Texas. Yeah, 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.359 Ady Mitchell last year would have been my number one 0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.919 receiver on the board. Two years ago, Ady Mitchell would 0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:21.560 have been my number one receiver on the board. He's 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.680 gonna be a second round pick this year. You can 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.880 get really good receivers outside of the top fifty in 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.400 this draft. You can get instinct contributors outside of the 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:31.880 top fifty. That's not the case of tackle, not at all. 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.560 And obviously it's not the case of quarterback. It's never 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.040 been the case of quarterback. So you do have to 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.600 play the board a little bit. That's just part of it. Okay, 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:43.120 So let's talk about that. Forty minutes later, I was 0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:44.560 a really good conversation. 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:46.160 Conversation I have. 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:47.720 I hope people learn something. 0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.000 Very never mind. 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.480 No, no, no, no, no, no. 0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.200 Don't don't like well actually people, now, all right, the 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.000 people don't like that. Okay, what were you gonna say? Now, 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.080 that's what I was gonna say, Like, don't don't you know, 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:08.600 don't don't put your nose up to everybody that's upset. Okay. Uh. Anyways, 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:10.960 let's talk a little bit about the current team. I 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.480 think the two the two main things coming out of 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.880 this game that we have to discuss are basically, is 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.600 your mind changed? Does your mind does any of this 0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.120 like two out of three wins, and like, let's just 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.200 take all the feelings about the draft out of it 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.160 for a second and just look at it in a vacuum. 0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.360 Does it change your mind about Bill Belichick? Does it 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.560 change your mind about Bailly is happy? Because that that's 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.200 I think that in the here and now. That's like 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.120 the questions. 0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.920 About the team. Uh no, it doesn't. They scored nineteen 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:37.880 points on offense. 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.440 Yeah I know, and they were like three of something 0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.439 on thirty thirteen well eight, oh yeah, give them credit 0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:43.960 now it's or seven three and something. 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.600 Give them credit. There were three to twelve on third 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.000 down because the thirteenth was the when they clocked the ball, 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.799 So okay, you don't need to pick that up. But no, 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:56.760 it's because again, it's not move on from Bill because 0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.120 the team is a ten loss team ten plus lost 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.560 team in twenty twenty three. It's moved on from Bill 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.880 because the roster has fallen into such a state of 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.040 despair that this is where they are. I still believe 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.400 Bill can coach if anything change, I feel stronger about 0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:13.160 that fantasy world that's not gonna happen where Bill basically 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.160 goes to Robert and says, you know what, have somebody 0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.120 else Bill the roster. I'm going to Nantucket. I'll see 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.480 you for OTA's in May. Like I want that even 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:24.000 more now. But that's not gonna happen. But I don't 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:25.960 want it enough for unwilling to stick with Bill Belichick 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:27.480 as the GM. I think they need. I still think 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.279 they need a fresh voice because you still saw the 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.799 issues with the roster that have compounded over the last 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.520 few years flare up in this game. Even though they wont. 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.880 Yeah, I feel like they're just There is something to 0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.480 be said for the fact that at this point they're 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.839 also just playing worse teams, right Pittsburgh Denver, like there 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.920 does not they're not the Eagles, right, like they're not 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:50.719 They're not Miami in Week two Dallas, when the when 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:54.160 the losing really started to to permeate. I would just 0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:57.319 say that with Bill, I would agree with you that 0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.960 the ideal situation is that he stays up and coaches 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.080 and hands personnel off to somebody else. I just don't 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:05.120 know how. 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:08.799 But like truly does it not symbolically again, he leaves. 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:13.160 But I don't know how we realistically execute that because 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.200 ultimately the personnel guy, let's call it Adam Peters, just 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:21.120 for argument's sake, Adam Peters is gonna draft a player 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.880 and then he's gonna hand that player to Bill, who's 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.920 then gonna coach him, develop him, and then put him 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.920 in a role. And Bill's roles in Bill's vision for 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.360 his football team is not gonna change. So Adam Peters 0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.719 can go out and he can draft a four to 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.440 two receiver like the Patriots did with Taekwon Thorton, or 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.120 they can. He can go out and he can draft 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.960 a Marty Maphu, and Bill is just gonna play Marty 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.319 map who had safety and he's gonna bench Taekwon Thorton 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.440 because he can't run routes like that. That's just gonna be. 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.919 That's it. That's what's gonna end up happening. And how 0:39:55.960 --> 0:40:01.240 do you it's not about just identify buying talent better, 0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:03.560 Like I think that that if it was just simply 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.880 they need to identify talent on the personnel side better, 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.160 then it would be easy to say, let's put Adam 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:14.000 Peters in charge. Let's put John Robinson in charge. Let's 0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.920 put you know, the guy from from Kansas City that 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:20.040 can't remember his name, the assistant GM in Kansas City, 0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.120 Let's put him in charge. It would be much easier 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:27.719 to say that if Bill was also changing the vision, right, 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.440 like the vision is the problem. The problem is is 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.360 that and this kind of relates to my take on 0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:37.759 Bailey Zappy. The problem is is that their offense right 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:42.120 now is jump balls to Devonte Parker, right, and that 0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:46.799 is an archaic, extinct way of playing offense, and it's why, Yeah, 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:48.920 they can make a few big plays down the stretch 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.400 in a game like this, but like you said, they 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.560 scored nineteen points, right, and that to get to a 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.760 back to being an elite offense. You need to change 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:01.439 the way that their structural Sure, you need to change 0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:06.600 the way they are structurally operating offensively. So here's my pitch, 0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.279 and I gave this on PUS. I'm sorry for people 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.920 that listen to ball shows. Here's my pitch. If I'm 0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:18.080 not saying I'm advocating for keeping Bill, but if Bill 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.839 were to stay, and if Robert were just to sit 0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:22.680 there and say I can't do it like he's the 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:27.319 greatest coach of all time, the stability is to at 0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.000 this point of it's just I want it right, like 0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.360 I don't want to completely start from scratch with my 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:36.560 football team. I have a couple of different parameters of 0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:41.800 that one. They need to hire a GM. Bill is 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.920 losing GM responsibilities. They need to hire a real GM. 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.880 And it can't be Macro because Macro is just gonna 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:48.919 be a puppet for Bill. 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:50.640 No, it's got to be But here's the thing, and 0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:51.880 I agree with you on that one hundred percent. It's 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:53.439 got to be somebody wh's gonna actually do the job. 0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:58.440 How many people can really do There aren't that many 0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.439 people on the planet that you can put in there 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.560 that are going to When Bill says some they're gonna 0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:04.759 say no, right, No, we're doing it my way. 0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.759 Well, that's why it has to be somebody that's done 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:08.120 it before. 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:10.960 I think there's three people realistically that you could hire 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:12.799 for that role, and I'm not sure any of them 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.240 would do it. Thomas de Metroz probably the most realistic option, 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.960 John Robinson, and then the long shot, but like in 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.960 theory if his qualifications, his qualifications check out, but I 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:27.239 don't think he'd do it. Scott Fuley, yeah, is back in. 0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:30.120 I hope he doesn't. He's great on TV, but those 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.920 are probably Is there anybody else that when Bill goes 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.080 into the draft room and says I want Dallas turn 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.120 or fourth overall, is gonna say no? 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.160 I'm sure there is, right, Like, I'm sure somebody does 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.560 have that type of backbone. But ultimately that so here's 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:49.000 the thing that that general manager that we're talking about. 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.520 And again I'm not advocating for keeping Bill. I would 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.279 still move on as well. But if right, let's just 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.160 play it out. If they were going to keep him, 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:02.920 the GM that was in place answers to ownership. He 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.040 doesn't answer to Bill, right like his boss needs to 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:09.480 be Robert Craft. Yeah, and he needs to have complete 0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.560 control of the fifty three man roster like that's his team, 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:17.000 it's his roster. Bill's just coaching Bill at this point. 0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.120 Is Andy Reid? Right? Like you know, Brett Veach is 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.319 handing Andy Reid a pile of draft picks and here 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.560 you go, coach, like this is your group. Right, That's 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.600 what needs would need to happen. I think there probably 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.680 are people that we don't necessarily know at the top 0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.000 of our heads, that do exist that would have that 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.880 kind of backbone, but that that's on the Crafts to 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.040 find that person, right, So that that's item number one, 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:43.640 you're handing personnel off item number two. I still think 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.920 Bill O'Brien's a good coach. If Bill O'Brien is the 0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.319 guy that they want leading the offense, that's fine. But 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:56.919 Bill O'Brien and the general manager are running offense. Those 0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.120 two guys are making the personnel decisions on offense. Those 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.640 two guys are making the schematic, you know what, the 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.839 direction that we're taking the offense in. From A, A, AN, 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:10.480 x's and o's standpoint, they're running offense. Yeah, I don't 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:12.960 want Bill anywhere near the offense. I don't want I 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:13.880 don't want Tom touch in it. 0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:15.480 Well, that's kind of like what we talked about when 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.640 we were talking about them hiring an offensive coordinator last year, 0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:19.759 head coach of the offense, right like Josh mcka. 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:23.399 So those two guys are gonna be in lockstep of 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.279 what the vision is, what the personnel needs to be, 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:30.000 where the holes are, and then obviously what the schematic 0:44:30.080 --> 0:44:33.520 direction of the offense is going to be. Item number 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.200 three and this, Once we get to all three of these, 0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.520 you're gonna see even more how ridiculous this would be 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.560 for Bill to say yes to this. Right item number three, 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:47.920 I'm giving O'Brien full autonomy of his coaching staff on 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.279 the offensive side of the ball, Like let him like 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.040 hire his own guys. Okay, he has one of his 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.600 own guys. It's Will lying the tight ends coach. I 0:44:56.640 --> 0:45:01.279 don't know who hired Adrian Klem, but Adrian Klem. I 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.680 want to be sensitive about the fact that it's an 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.520 illness or a health related situation. Right, So I don't 0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.560 know what's going on with Adrian Klem, but Adrian Clem 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.520 I think was a Bill higher. I mean, has Bill 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.919 written all over it right, former player for the page. 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:22.000 Well, the O'Brien was here, so. 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.520 So I don't know if Adrian Clem is going to 0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:26.719 be back here simply because of his health situation. So 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:32.160 that offensive line coach hire needs to be Bill O'Brien's higher. 0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.239 If Bill O'Brien doesn't feel like Troy Brown and Vinie 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:39.520 Conseri Viney Sinceri running backs coach, Troy Brown wide receivers coach, obviously, 0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:41.960 if he doesn't feel like those two guys are getting 0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:43.440 the job done, he needs to go get his own 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:48.880 guys right. So they I feel like they kind of 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:53.200 like told Bill O'Brien like, this is this is your staff, right, Like, 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.000 this is the guys that you're working with. Figure it out. 0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:58.440 And I'm not saying that all of those guys are 0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.799 bad coaches or anything like that, but ultimately that's that's 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.480 not how it should have been done. Like Josh McDaniels 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.600 had his staff, like Carl Briscilla is his guy, Nick Lombardy, 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.480 I know he has John har right, it's you know, 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.560 those are his guys. So I think that they have 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:18.600 to get back to doing all that. So a GM 0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:22.239 that has control of personnel handing over the offense to 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.280 the GM and the offensive coordinator and allowing the offensive 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.520 coordinator to hire his own staff. I think I can 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:30.160 just like drive the car to the airport for BIA. 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:31.080 He's not doing that. 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:34.160 Your your pitch is basically bills a defensive coordinator that's 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.319 allowed to call timeouts during the game. 0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:37.000 That's your pitch. 0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:37.640 Nailed it. 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.160 Look, I'm not saying it would be a bad setup, 0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:42.319 but he's not gonna do that. 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:43.120 There's no way he would. 0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.040 But so that that's how that's how ridiculous that we've 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.280 gotten to the point where like that's not even feasible, 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.040 and like that's what it would really realistically need to be, 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.239 and that that's just not What is a. 0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:59.080 Deep college football term? Uh h, I've actually only seen 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:00.680 it written out. I don't know if you're supposed to 0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:04.120 pronounce it or hci n O. I don't know, hissinko 0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:08.040 oh head coach and name only. It's when a college 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.440 football head coach is basically a figurehead and he's not 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.480 really like he's there. He's calling timeouts on the sideline, 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:14.840 he's doing the press conferences. 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:17.560 But I just wish that, like my whole thing about 0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:21.520 it is is that I just wish that Bill would 0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.920 embrace being more like what Andy Reid is when in 0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.040 Kansas City, not this year because he's had to take 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.759 back over the offense because the enemy's not there, but 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:33.160 Kansas City with the enemy, like Andy Reid was literally 0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:36.480 just there for a good time. Like he just would 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.600 show up to see you. Yeah, he would show up, 0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:44.239 He'd you know, QC everything, he'd draw fun plays like 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.640 just let let Bill just like draw pressure schemes, you know, 0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:51.560 and like a game plan for like Patrick Mahomes and 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.600 Josh Allen all the time, like right, all this other stuff, 0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.120 I just I don't know at this point, at seventy 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.399 one years old, Like I don't know if Bill has 0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:04.200 has it in him anymore to have his hands in 0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.600 so many different things. So you have to empower other 0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.760 people to go out and do some of that stuff. 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.239 That's that's I think what the bottom line is. It's 0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.320 nothing to do with like me trying to disrespect Bill's 0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:18.839 football mind, Like he obviously has a fantastic football mind 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.640 and maybe the best ever. But I think at this 0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:24.120 point in his life he needs to allow some other 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.560 people to do some other things. And I just wonder 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:30.560 if if he could just embrace that type of role 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:34.440 of Andy Reid, Pete Carroll, like these other guys that 0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:37.759 are just kind of out there and they're making sure 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.120 that it's a tight ship. They're making sure that that 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.200 you know, the game plan and everything is getting done 0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.040 the proper way. And then they're also just having fun 0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:50.560 with scheme right right that that that's that all the 0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:53.799 like crazy crap that Kansas City does on offense, all 0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.600 that stuff gets cooked up in Andy Reid's mind because 0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:01.360 he's not focused on you know, signing claiming Marco Wilson 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.400 off of waivers, right like that, that's not on his plate, 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:07.680 like that type of you know, Nathan Rourke like that, 0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:10.240 that he's not worried about that kind of stuff. Whereas 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.920 with Bill right now, it's all on Bill. Everything is 0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:14.799 on Bill to do at all. And I think at 0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.320 this point, maybe he's at his age, he's he's stretched 0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:20.880 too thin, and I don't think that that's a realistic 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:24.440 scenario for him to accept that. Maybe, you if they 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:27.040 really feel strongly about bringing back Bill, maybe he accepts 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:28.960 like two out of three of those things, right, you know, 0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:31.960 instead of all of it. But that that would be. 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.200 My pitch to him is that you need to start 0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:38.239 giving in to some of these other people, like you 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.080 need to start giving some power, succeeding some power to 0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.120 some younger guys, some more visionary guys on the offensive 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.520 side of the ball and allow them to take over 0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:50.680 because defensively, they're still really well coached defense. And whether 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:53.040 you want to give that credit to Bill or the assistance, 0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:57.680 I think it's both right. But ultimately that's that's where 0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.000 he that's Bill's side of the ball. He's the defense 0:50:00.160 --> 0:50:02.960 of Gurud and and they're still really good. I mean, 0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:06.399 they just got Russell Wilson benched and probably cut by 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.040 the Denver Broncos because by the third quarter the guy 0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.799 was seeing ghosts as Bill, you know, was scheming up 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.080 pressure against the Broncos one of their better pressure games 0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:17.120 of the year, just in terms of cooking it up right, 0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.880 and that I think is is something that Bill can 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:22.560 still really do at a high level. With Bailey ZAPPI 0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:25.880 I mentioned this earlier, and I feel like this is 0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.640 a this is kind of segues into it with me. 0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:32.239 I think with Bailey Zappy, I am no longer going 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.399 to sit here and tell you that Bailey Zappy is. 0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.160 You know, I'm not gonna take him lightly anymore. I 0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.360 feel like in the in the off season and training 0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.680 camp because of what we saw, and I still stand 0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:48.279 by what we saw at practice, But between last year 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.800 and and the training camp this year, I will fully 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.360 midhand up that I was very dismissive of Bailey Zappi. 0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:57.120 I was like, this guy is not it. I don't 0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:58.920 want to talk about it. I don't want to entertain 0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:01.400 Bailey Zappi as a star arting quarterback for the Patriots 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.240 over Mac Jones. I'm not doing that. It's Max team 0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.960 that sort of thing. I'm opening my mind up to 0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:12.839 embracing the FEVA right and embracing Zappy a little bit. 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.239 But I still think he's a backup quarterback. Like I'm 0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.800 still not saying like we're hitching our wagon to Bailey Zappy. 0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.920 But he's got a little bit of something something like 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.440 he can move around a little bit, He's got a 0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:27.520 little bit more gun slinger off platform, you know, broken 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:31.480 extended play type of stuff to him than Mac Jones does. 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:34.800 He just looks more natural playing quarterback like Mac Jones 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:38.879 looks like a quarterback that's been drilling quarterback drill since 0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.200 the sixth grade, right, Like it's just like a quarterback 0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:46.200 robot right at this point, where when things happen in 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.560 the course of a game with Mac Jones that he's 0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:52.719 not expecting to happen, like a pressure breaks through or 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:57.960 they're playing a different coverage and then he self, you know, implodes, 0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:00.359 right right, Whereas with Bailey Zappy, he's got a little 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:03.400 bit more of like a natural instinct in playmaking gene 0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.319 to the game. And I think that this offense needed that, 0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:09.200 Like they needed somebody that was just gonna play a 0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:12.440 little bit looser, and that is why I think that 0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.680 they've been a little bit better with Bailey ZAPPI. 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:16.799 Yeah, he kind of looks like Mac did his rookie 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.279 year a little bit, I think before he obviously, you know, 0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:21.319 had to spend two years behind that offensive line. 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:22.160 Yeah. 0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:25.200 I like a big question this week has been with 0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:27.600 the Patriots be better if Bailey Zappie had started from 0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:31.080 week one. I don't think so, because of what you said, 0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.600 Like he struggled so much in camp, and he even 0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.840 talked about yesterday how it took him some time to 0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.319 learn the offense and get comfortable in the offense and 0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:40.840 could they have made the switch a little bit sooner, yes, 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:44.600 But I think at that point, by the time Zappi 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.719 was ready, they were who they were right, and it 0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:48.439 was they were not going to be a playoff team. 0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:50.400 And it's funny a lot of the same people complaining 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.440 about draft positioning are the same people complaining, oh, they 0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:55.080 should have gone to Zafi sooner. Well, which one do 0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:56.840 you really want or do you just want to complain? 0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.719 I think with him, And it is the perfect year 0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:04.279 to talk about this. I think people think that it's like, 0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:09.480 for example, in Cincinnati, that Joe Burrow has this like 0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:12.080 vastly different skill set than a guy like Jake Browning has, 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:17.920 And that's not necessarily the case. It's the biggest divider 0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:22.080 between a guy like Joe Burrow and a guy like 0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:27.120 Jake Browning or a guy like any of the other. 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:29.160 Like when you have the class of like the Kirk 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.399 Cousins right in that group and the Startersho've gone down 0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:33.719 this year and Deshaun Watson and then you have like 0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:40.040 Josh Dobbs and Jake Browning in that group, it's consistency, 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.719 Like you don't get this far without being able to 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:47.040 do some pretty spectacular stuff with the football, just in 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:49.640 any regard to be a backup quarterback in the NFL, 0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:53.080 Tim Boyle had five touchdowns thirteen interceptions of the Yukon 0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:54.839 he's in the NFL. Part of it's because he's friends 0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.799 with Aaron Rodgers, but like, you have to be able 0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:01.279 to have some level of ability. The difference is like 0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:04.080 the throw Jake Browning made to t Higgins the other week, 0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:07.839 outstanding throw, but Jake Browning only makes that throw two 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.040 of every ten times, three of every ten times, right, 0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.840 whereas Joe Burrow makes it eight or nine out of 0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.640 every ten times. That's the difference. When you have a 0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.160 guy like Bailey's Appy, Like I think Bailey's Appy's one 0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:20.640 of these guys. Tommy DeVito's another one right where Tommy 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.600 DeVito was the hottest name in football for two weeks 0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:25.719 there and now he's benched because yes, he can do it. 0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:27.560 You don't get this far without being able to do 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.840 some of those things. But he can't. He couldn't do 0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:32.200 it regularly and kind of once teams figured out what 0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.600 his comfort zone was, he didn't really have a plan 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:36.640 B to go off of. I think that's who Bailey 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:40.560 Zappy is, Yeah, he does have some abilities, and I 0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:42.200 do think he's gonna be in this league for a 0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:45.120 long time as a backup, as a bridge starter, like 0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:46.840 you know, a guy like Jacoby Verssett when he came 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:48.480 out of the draft, they compare him to Chase Daniel, 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:50.400 like he's gonna be around forever. 0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:53.239 Because I like, right now, I feel like he's like 0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:57.120 you know, Chase Daniel for might be before some people 0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:59.160 that actually listen to our show. Yeah, i'd like Taylor 0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:02.600 Heineke like another guy that I feel like that counts 0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:04.759 around as a back and there's. 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.960 Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But you see it the 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:09.160 splits between the first half and the second half, and 0:55:09.200 --> 0:55:11.560 even in that game he had some miss throws, the 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:15.719 miss reads. Yeah, it's just not consistent enough for to 0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:17.200 be like, all right, this is the guy we're gonna 0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:18.719 build around, this is the guy we're gonna Yeah. 0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:21.120 I think consistency is exactly the word that I would use, 0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.680 or like sustainability, because I think you can see it 0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:28.000 just in games from one half to the other or 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.399 going back to like the Charger game versus this Broncos game. 0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.840 The biggest difference between the Charger game and this Broncos 0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:37.719 game was that DeVante Parker made the catches in the 0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:41.560 Broncos game. So in the against the Chargers, Bailey Zappi 0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:45.000 was one for five on deep passes. Against the Broncos, 0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.240 he was three for three. Like that, that's the difference. 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.200 And some of those were like, I mean, one of 0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:51.400 those ones, he throws it just to a spot and 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.879 Parker gets it, Like, I wouldn't say it's an outstanding throw, 0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:55.320 It's just Parker Parker. 0:55:55.600 --> 0:56:00.279 Parker, Parker makes a play this week. Pop Douglas to 0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:03.880 play down the field this week. But there's a reason 0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.479 why those are called fifty to fifty balls. Some weeks 0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:08.759 it's gonna work. In some weeks it's not. And we 0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:11.319 see that half to half with Bailey Zappi. We see 0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.160 that from the Charger game to the Broncos game, like 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:18.879 you can see it in tangible evidence of one half 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:21.400 it works against the Steelers, the second half it doesn't 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:23.640 work against the Steelers. And I feel like that's the 0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.640 way that his game is right now. So in order 0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:30.040 for me to really be like this guy deserves a 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.000 chance to compete next year for the starting job, I 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.719 need to see his consistency especially in the short game, 0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:39.160 which is where he's had issues in camp, and he's 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:42.799 had those issues have continued into the regular season. He 0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.640 had three or four opportunities to beat the Blitz last 0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:48.239 week where they actually had it drawn up correctly, They 0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:50.680 had the hot and they had the protection going the 0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.560 right direction and he just airmails a throw, you know, 0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.640 second drive of the game, he has Pop Douglas in 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.200 the flat and he just rushes the throw and it's 0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:01.600 nowhere near him. He had Pop Douglas later on in 0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:03.799 the game on a zero Blitz and the throw was 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:06.680 nowhere near him. The play to Zeke in the flat. 0:57:06.760 --> 0:57:08.799 They ended up hitting it for the touchdown later on 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.560 that it was a tough catch because the ball placement 0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:16.280 wasn't perfect and it was an open throw against the Blitz. 0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:18.280 That all he's got to do is put it on 0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:20.680 Zeke Elliott there and it might be a touchdown and 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.720 instead it's a drop. And like those little things like that, 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:26.240 if he can clean that stuff up and he can 0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:28.400 be more consistent, you know, he went to the podium 0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:30.880 yesterday and he brought up the Pharaoh Brown play down 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:33.440 the field that he felt like he missed. You're gonna 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.720 miss some reeds like that in the NFL. You know, 0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:38.919 it happens to you needed to. You were a little 0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.160 bit sped up. The ball came out a little bit 0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:44.400 sooner than you wanted to. But once the ball comes out, 0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.000 everybody's converging on Zeke Elliott. And now all of a sudden, 0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:49.440 it looks like Farroh Brown is wide open down the field. 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.400 I'm not gonna knock him for all those little that 0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:55.560 those types of misses the reeds, as you know you 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:59.000 would put it. It's more the throws that are an issue. 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:02.680 Like when he gets it's and he's got Pop Douglas 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:05.320 and Douglas sits down and is right, you know, five 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.600 yards away from him, and he throws it all the 0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:10.040 way over here, Like you can't have that. Like he's 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:11.280 got to be able to make those times. 0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:12.840 And the other thing is, and I think the reason 0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:14.320 maybe so many people are high on him because he 0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:17.200 does look much better than mac Jones obviously, and he's 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.680 more confident in poised than Mac right, But the other 0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:23.000 the other part about it is, and this this is 0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.520 like better than mac Jones can't be the bar. It 0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.320 just can't. Like that's not that doesn't mean, yeah, right, 0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:31.560 And I think one of the big differences is Mac 0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:34.080 would get a rusher in his face and he'd throw 0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:37.280 a pick and he would just he couldn't well no, no, no, 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:39.040 but here's my point. He couldn't get There were times 0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:40.400 too many times where he couldn't get the ball out 0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.360 of his hand fast enough. Yeah, and I think Bailey's appy. 0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:45.600 He's getting sacked a lot, and I think he's turning 0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:47.840 a lot of those into sacks. So it looks better 0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:51.640 because he's getting sacked instead of getting picked and maybe 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:53.240 they go three and out, but hey, he's not throwing 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:54.000 all these interceptions. 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:57.160 Yeah, I mean his turnover worthy played rate is lower, right, 0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:59.560 and their explosive play rate has sky, right, But i'm. 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.240 His turnover worth he plays play rate is lower, but 0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:04.560 he's taking a ton of sacks. And it's now, can 0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.760 you go get the guy that instead of turning those 0:59:06.840 --> 0:59:08.960 empty rushes into sacks, is gonna be able to break 0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:10.960 away and do something with it? Like that's the next step. 0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:12.920 I said, He's done that a little bit too, though, 0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:15.400 Like his pocket mobility is definitely a little bit but not. 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.080 I still think that there's times where he's just holding 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:18.919 the ball way too long. 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.960 Maybe. I I feel like his pocket mobility is probably 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:25.840 his best trait, like his ability to bounce around the 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:29.000 pocket and move off his spot and reset, Like the 0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:31.640 throw to Pop Douglas. You know, he has the rusher 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:33.400 coming off the edge and he just steps through the 0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:36.840 pocket and makes a throw. I thought his best, you know, 0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:39.919 bit of pocket mobility was the little checkdown to Zeke 0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:43.960 on the game winning drive. Vederian logets spun around by 0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:46.800 the edge rusher there and he's able to just kind 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:48.880 of bob and weave out of the sack and then 0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:51.600 just make a little check down. That's a five yards 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.040 that you know, that makes it a sixty yard field 0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:56.080 goal instead of a fifty six, Right. 0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.360 I just, I just he's You don't think there's still 0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:01.480 some like real deer in headlights moments him. 1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:04.280 Not in this game, No, may maybe a little bit 1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:07.479 in Kansas City because they had, you know, Kansas City. 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:09.720 I thought a lot of the issues that they had 1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:14.080 with picking up pressure were or pre snap mental things right, 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:16.920 like setting mike points and things like that. And there 1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:19.320 were guys that I don't think he expected to be 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.120 free that were free, like on the corner blitz like 1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:24.920 he didn't expect the corner blitz to come, and so 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.280 he's you know, standing there and it's coming off his 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:30.200 backside and he just never sees it coming, right, And 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:33.120 so those types of plays. I see that. But I 1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:35.720 think that his his ability to move around the pocket, 1:00:36.040 --> 1:00:38.640 even with Mac at his best, I think is significantly 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:39.680 better than Mac Jones. 1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:42.400 Yeah, and but again, like that's not the bar. I 1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:46.040 still just think it's been the year of the backup quarterback, right, 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:48.960 all these guys having their fifteen minutes, Josh Dobbs, Tommy DeVito, Yeah, 1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:52.040 outside of Joe Flacco, which is its own thing. Yeah, 1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:54.360 I mean, I just I feel like Bailey's appy, that's 1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:56.440 you know, he's having us fifteen minutes right now. He's 1:00:56.480 --> 1:00:58.720 where Tommy DeVito was two weeks ago. He's where Josh 1:00:58.760 --> 1:00:59.640 Dobbs was a month ago. 1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.600 I could agree more. I he's got a six game 1:01:02.680 --> 1:01:04.880 sample size because he's gonna start the last two games 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:06.360 of the year, right, so he's gonna have a six 1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:11.240 game sample size. And that's a lot bigger, obviously than 1:01:11.280 --> 1:01:13.360 the two games sample size that we got last year. 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:17.080 So in six games, that's almost half a season, or 1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:19.640 at least a third of a season. I think we're 1:01:19.680 --> 1:01:23.000 in a position where we can really say is this 1:01:23.080 --> 1:01:25.320 a real thing or is this a flash in the pan. 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:27.880 He's gonna play Buffalo, and then he's gonna play a 1:01:27.880 --> 1:01:30.720 pretty good Jets defense the week after that. Those are 1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:34.160 two a playoff team and a good defense. If he 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:36.640 goes toe to toe with Josh Allen. Now Mac Jones 1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:38.520 did in Week seven. He went he won a game 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:41.000 against Josh Allen going toe to toe with him. So 1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:43.720 I'm not saying that it's something Mac has never done, 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:47.000 but I there's gonna just you wait, like there's gonna 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:49.439 be a groundswell of people that are are gonna really 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:51.800 be like why not? Why not? Bailey Zappi? And I 1:01:52.120 --> 1:01:54.640 just wanted us to kind of lay out right now, 1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:57.680 like why not Bailey Zappi? Like what are the biggest reasons? 1:01:57.680 --> 1:01:59.360 All right, let's take some phone calls and then we'll 1:01:59.400 --> 1:02:04.320 get to three up redown. Patty's been hanging on. What's up, Patty? 1:02:05.080 --> 1:02:06.400 What's going on? Guys? Can you hear me? 1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:07.200 Yes? We got you? 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:12.640 All right, I'll take you out Bluetooth. So it's interesting 1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:15.160 what you guys were talking about as far as like 1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:20.640 the possibility of Bill coming back, because that's what I 1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:23.400 wanted to ask you. I mean, one thing we said, 1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:25.920 and we I mean, like the collective fans and what 1:02:25.960 --> 1:02:29.320 we've talked about on you before the season started. We said, 1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:32.560 if this team's gonna have great season, the mac Jones 1:02:32.600 --> 1:02:35.560 needs to take that next step. And it hasn't happened. 1:02:36.240 --> 1:02:41.600 So offensively, we're anep because the quarterback sucks and they 1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:43.680 made the switch way too late, which who knows what 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:46.600 would happen, but they probably would have looked very similar. 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:52.040 That being said, if mister Kraft does bring Belichick back, 1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:53.960 and I don't see a scenario where he brings them 1:02:54.000 --> 1:02:57.040 back and he's not the general manager, I mean he's 1:02:57.080 --> 1:03:01.520 got to say, Bill, look, we took the quarterback and 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:05.200 he stunk up the plate. That's why that's why we 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:08.880 that's why we suck here. We have to take a quarternick. 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:14.080 We have to take another quarterback. And I mean, do 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:16.160 you think do you think Phil would get his candies 1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:17.800 in a bunch if that was a case or do 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:21.720 you think you do you think he recognizes what happened 1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:25.120 in twenty twenty one. And I'll leave it with that, 1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:26.680 and great show guys is all. 1:03:27.000 --> 1:03:31.440 Thanks Patty. So here here's two parts of that question. 1:03:31.480 --> 1:03:33.920 I feel like, one, do I think that there's a 1:03:34.000 --> 1:03:37.280 chance that Bill is back, Yes, because I think just 1:03:37.320 --> 1:03:42.000 putting myself in in robber craft shoes, I think it's 1:03:42.000 --> 1:03:45.680 a lot easier to in the moment when the season's 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:47.880 happening in like, let's just take Germany, because I know 1:03:47.920 --> 1:03:50.000 that that's the top current report, right, Like that was 1:03:50.000 --> 1:03:52.960 the final straw. You're sitting there in Germany. Mac Jones 1:03:52.960 --> 1:03:55.040 and Bailey's Abby just threw picks on back to back 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:58.000 drives to lose the game and what's basically a home game. 1:03:58.280 --> 1:04:00.600 A lot invested into that game in terms of the 1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:03.760 organization and all that kind of stuff, and it's just 1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.000 it's just a terrible game, right, and you lose. It's 1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:09.240 a lot easier to come off of that and just 1:04:09.280 --> 1:04:12.200 say we need the fire bill right right than it 1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:16.320 is to get to January eighth. And Bill comes into 1:04:16.360 --> 1:04:18.600 your office to have that meeting that they have every 1:04:18.600 --> 1:04:20.920 single year of resetting, you know, state of the Union, 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:24.120 Like what are we going to do? And Bill sitting 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:26.320 across the table, like we're sitting across the table from 1:04:26.360 --> 1:04:28.240 each other, right now and to look Bill in the 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:31.440 eyes and say you're fired, like you know, like, I 1:04:31.480 --> 1:04:34.600 think that that's we have to just look at it 1:04:34.640 --> 1:04:38.320 from a human perspective and say that that is to 1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:40.919 tell the greatest head coach of all time, a guy 1:04:40.960 --> 1:04:43.040 that's won you six super Bowls, a guy that's had 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:46.360 the unparalleled success that Bill Belichick has had here in 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:49.160 New England, to sit across the table from that guy 1:04:49.200 --> 1:04:52.240 and say you're out, I think is a lot easier 1:04:52.280 --> 1:04:54.880 said than done. So yes, I think there's a chance 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:57.000 that they get cold feet about the whole thing. 1:04:57.240 --> 1:04:58.880 And I think there's I think winning games down the 1:04:58.920 --> 1:05:00.520 stretch is only gonna help. Yeah. 1:05:00.840 --> 1:05:04.920 Yeah, and that that I think is tough. Uh to 1:05:05.720 --> 1:05:09.240 answer the quarterback question. Uh, I think that that's I 1:05:09.240 --> 1:05:12.000 think that's gonna be Bill's argument. I think Bill's gonna 1:05:12.040 --> 1:05:15.960 go into that meeting and say, our quarterbacks stick, like 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:18.720 you know, that's that's what the problem was the problem was, 1:05:18.760 --> 1:05:20.480 is that that we don't have a good quarterback, Like, 1:05:20.480 --> 1:05:22.480 look at all these one score losses. Look at all 1:05:22.520 --> 1:05:25.280 these losses because we turned the ball over like crazy, 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:29.200 Like you can you can talk yourself into I know 1:05:29.240 --> 1:05:31.240 a lot of the pro Zappi people have done this 1:05:31.320 --> 1:05:34.600 with Zappy like flipping games. Right, if you had better 1:05:34.680 --> 1:05:37.680 quarterback play, like you beat the Giants, you beat the Chargers, 1:05:37.720 --> 1:05:41.960 you beat the Colts in Germany. Quarterback like you do 1:05:42.000 --> 1:05:44.560 you Yeah, all of a sudden, you can talk yourself 1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:48.280 into well, actually, like the rest of this roster, Robert 1:05:48.640 --> 1:05:52.080 was really like a nine or ten win team, but 1:05:52.160 --> 1:05:54.640 we didn't have the quarterback kept on shooting us in 1:05:54.680 --> 1:05:57.800 the foot and that's what that's how it unraveled on us. Like, yeah, 1:05:57.800 --> 1:06:00.600 obviously you're not gonna flip the Dallas and New Or games, 1:06:00.920 --> 1:06:05.760 but the Raiders, the Colts, you know, the Chargers, the Giants. 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:08.360 That's four wins right there. That if you told me, 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:12.240 like you had Justin Herbert playing quarterback instead of Mac Jones, 1:06:12.760 --> 1:06:15.600 you could probably convince somebody that that you could flip 1:06:15.640 --> 1:06:18.680 those games. And that's exactly what I think Bill Belichick 1:06:18.720 --> 1:06:19.200 is going to say. 1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:21.120 Well, the problem is I think he's going to say 1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:22.840 and look, at the end of the year, Bailey's appy 1:06:22.840 --> 1:06:24.880 stopped turning the ball over. I don't think he's going 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:26.400 to go in and say I need a new quarterback. 1:06:26.400 --> 1:06:28.560 I think he's going to say, ZAPPI didn't turn the 1:06:28.560 --> 1:06:30.680 ball over. That's the only thing that matters for us 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:32.800 at the quarterback position. He doesn't turn it over. Let 1:06:32.880 --> 1:06:34.600 me get back at it. Let me keep building up 1:06:34.600 --> 1:06:36.920 this defense, let me rebuild the offensive line. Here we go, 1:06:36.920 --> 1:06:39.320 because Evan, we've talked about this on the show. His 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:42.240 whole idea is a dominant defense, an offense that just 1:06:42.240 --> 1:06:44.600 doesn't turn. They got shut out six nothing by the Chargers, 1:06:44.600 --> 1:06:47.880 and he was talking about how the the defense didn't 1:06:47.880 --> 1:06:50.160 get them good enough field position. Yeah, right, the offensive 1:06:50.240 --> 1:06:52.120 score point. He comes out and he blames the defense, right, 1:06:52.360 --> 1:06:55.800 So I absolutely see that as a as a chape 1:06:55.800 --> 1:06:57.560 thing where he goes in he basically says, all right, 1:06:57.640 --> 1:06:59.720 Bailey's Appy's not going to turn the ball over, so 1:06:59.760 --> 1:07:01.880 the offense will be what I needed to be. Let 1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:04.000 me keep adding to the defense, let me fix the 1:07:04.040 --> 1:07:06.240 offensive line a little bit. I think there's a real 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:08.240 chance if he comes back. You see the same offseasons 1:07:08.320 --> 1:07:11.480 last year where they add pieces to the defense, they 1:07:11.560 --> 1:07:13.400 tanker on the margins with the offense, and they just 1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:16.080 basically do the same offseason they just did around Bailey's 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:18.640 Appy instead of around Mac Jones. That would it's not 1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:22.120 what I would do. If Bill comes back, it would 1:07:22.160 --> 1:07:23.280 not surprise me in the slightest. 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:26.280 I don't think that that's on the table. I understand 1:07:26.280 --> 1:07:28.520 that we have to, like realistically look at it. But 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:29.560 we talked about it. 1:07:29.680 --> 1:07:31.920 If you bring Bill back, and bringing Bill backwarts at all? 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:35.200 And if it, why is Bill going to change? If 1:07:35.200 --> 1:07:37.640 Bill comes back? Why is this year suddenly the wake 1:07:37.720 --> 1:07:40.280 up call that everything's going to be different? If I 1:07:40.320 --> 1:07:42.120 do that point, I don't just walk away. 1:07:42.240 --> 1:07:43.680 I don't know if it will be a wake up 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:47.640 call that he necessarily has on his own. I think 1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:50.360 that that has to be the agreement between him and 1:07:50.400 --> 1:07:54.240 ownership if there is a decision to come back, just 1:07:54.320 --> 1:07:56.200 kind of like last year, I think that they thought 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:59.840 hiring Bill O'Brien was going to fix everything that this year, 1:07:59.880 --> 1:08:00.400 I think. 1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:03.480 That one psion. So what's the one? So he gets 1:08:03.520 --> 1:08:05.720 one concession? Last year was O'Brien? Is it the quarterback? 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:06.880 This year? Is it tackle? 1:08:07.160 --> 1:08:09.920 Is it receiver? Yeah? I think what it would be 1:08:09.920 --> 1:08:15.120 being generally being more aggressive with adding offense, Like your Bill, 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:18.040 your defense is set right, like you have your guys 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:20.880 on defense. If you want to, you know, re sign 1:08:20.960 --> 1:08:23.759 some of the guys on the margins. You know that's 1:08:23.800 --> 1:08:26.240 not gonna affect our caps. So like, go ahead if 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:28.960 you want to resign Kyle Duggar, Like that's probably the 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:30.360 biggest money I would spend. 1:08:30.479 --> 1:08:33.400 But I think it's gonna at that point, you're just 1:08:33.439 --> 1:08:36.640 gonna get tackles. You're gonna get another running back and 1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:38.160 you might get a tight end and that's it, Like 1:08:38.200 --> 1:08:40.280 you're not I I don't. 1:08:40.080 --> 1:08:42.640 Think I will and that, but that would be my 1:08:42.680 --> 1:08:44.759 putt right like that you have to be more aggressive. 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:48.360 But but I I think I mean he he he 1:08:48.520 --> 1:08:52.840 was on radio yesday and he raved about Bailey's Abbey, 1:08:53.200 --> 1:08:56.000 like raved about him. I think with Zappi's showing him 1:08:56.040 --> 1:08:57.960 right now, even in that Chiefs game, I think what 1:08:57.960 --> 1:09:00.320 he's seeing from Bailey z Appy now, like there's chance 1:09:00.360 --> 1:09:03.599 if he's back, Bailey's Appy is the unquestioned starter coming 1:09:03.600 --> 1:09:04.360 into camp next year. 1:09:04.400 --> 1:09:06.800 Oh I don't think so. I don't because I don't 1:09:06.840 --> 1:09:10.120 think organization would go for that. But I I is 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:11.880 there a chance. But but this is my point, this 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:14.400 is there a chance that it's Bailey Zappy. And I 1:09:14.439 --> 1:09:16.080 know you hate to hear this, but like bo Nicks, 1:09:16.080 --> 1:09:17.240 like it's it's Bailey Zappi. 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:21.800 It's and Bailey Zappi basically, but like this is the 1:09:23.240 --> 1:09:24.519 but but this is my point. 1:09:25.520 --> 1:09:26.559 Yeah, that's not gonna happen. 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:29.600 Is there a world where okay, and I'm saying, like 1:09:29.680 --> 1:09:33.160 ownership should absolutely have that directive. I don't disagree with 1:09:33.200 --> 1:09:35.679 you on that. At that point, does Bill say, fine, 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:38.480 trade me? At that point, Bill say, you're not dictating 1:09:38.720 --> 1:09:40.160 how I handle the quarterback position. 1:09:40.520 --> 1:09:42.559 That's but it's not how I do it. It's not 1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:45.120 just quarterback. That's my point though, Right, it's not just quarterback. 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:49.439 It's it's signing A T. Higgins. It's being more aggressive 1:09:49.479 --> 1:09:50.040 in the in the. 1:09:50.360 --> 1:09:51.880 He's gonna go to them and say, but he's gonna 1:09:51.920 --> 1:09:54.639 he's gonna come back and say, but we don't need Higgins. 1:09:54.680 --> 1:09:56.679 We want to run the ball, we want to play physical, 1:09:56.720 --> 1:09:58.640 we don't need this deep threat. We want to just 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:00.960 here's the door. Like I that's my point, and that's 1:10:00.960 --> 1:10:03.800 my point. I don't think those two things ultimately end up. 1:10:03.880 --> 1:10:06.120 It's one or the other. Bill's back. Bill's back to 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:08.720 do it his way. They're gonna say, we want you 1:10:08.720 --> 1:10:10.320 to be better on offense. He's gonna say, fine, but 1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:11.760 I want to be better at offense the way I 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:12.599 want to play offense. 1:10:12.680 --> 1:10:14.320 Yeah, I see that's not good enough for me. 1:10:14.880 --> 1:10:15.720 Well then there you go. 1:10:15.840 --> 1:10:16.080 Yeah. 1:10:16.120 --> 1:10:18.480 I just don't think you're gonna suddenly turn Bill Belichick 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:24.760 into Sean McVay. Maybe you will at that point, at 1:10:24.760 --> 1:10:26.960 that point, he'll go be Bill Belichick elsewhere I think 1:10:27.479 --> 1:10:29.320 as and you could argue like he has ever read 1:10:29.360 --> 1:10:31.240 to do that, and maybe that's what he should do, 1:10:31.560 --> 1:10:33.439 but I just don't see that happening. 1:10:33.520 --> 1:10:37.680 All right, Eddie is in LA. What's that? Betty's up? 1:10:37.760 --> 1:10:41.000 Guys? I know I'll to talk for this team right 1:10:41.000 --> 1:10:44.320 now is about the offense. But I'm don't gonna be wrong. 1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:47.160 Obviously that should be the talk. And Evan, like, I 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:49.400 think in a perfect world, if we were in one, 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:52.960 obviously this upcoming draft would be all offense. But I 1:10:53.000 --> 1:10:56.679 can't help but think that we need at least depth 1:10:56.760 --> 1:10:58.840 pieces on defense. And I'm not saying he's the first 1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:02.200 round take on a on defense obviously not, but maybe 1:11:02.240 --> 1:11:05.000 like the later round picks, especially like on the D line, 1:11:05.000 --> 1:11:06.320 because I know. 1:11:06.320 --> 1:11:09.240 Christian Barmer is like he's coming up right now. 1:11:09.800 --> 1:11:14.160 But like and Bocha is also good. Betch Wise also good, 1:11:14.160 --> 1:11:16.439 but those guys are kind of getting, you know, a 1:11:16.479 --> 1:11:18.639 little bit up there with the age, and I would 1:11:18.960 --> 1:11:21.640 I just think it'd be like a good idea to 1:11:21.680 --> 1:11:25.599 take a backup d line, backup corners obviously that could 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:29.040 like learn like the D lineman can learn from Gotcha, 1:11:29.160 --> 1:11:31.559 they can learn from Lawrence guy, they can learn from 1:11:31.640 --> 1:11:35.040 Dietrich Wise, maybe sit behind them for like a year 1:11:35.360 --> 1:11:38.080 at least, like they could learn a few moves, learn this, 1:11:38.280 --> 1:11:40.280 learn that, And I just think it could be so 1:11:40.400 --> 1:11:42.880 beneficial for the future. So I got for you guys. 1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:44.760 I'll let you guys talk about that a few as well. 1:11:44.920 --> 1:11:46.840 Okay, thank you, thanks Eddie. Yeah, I mean look that 1:11:47.240 --> 1:11:50.719 you still obviously need to keep the cupboard stocked on defense, 1:11:50.800 --> 1:11:53.600 but I think the defensive line point like that's what 1:11:53.680 --> 1:11:55.880 Keon White is here for, right right, Like they drafted 1:11:55.920 --> 1:11:59.240 ke On White to develop him behind those guys. Could 1:11:59.640 --> 1:12:02.360 I gonna be blue in the face about them taking 1:12:02.560 --> 1:12:04.719 an edge guy in the fourth round, Like, no. 1:12:04.640 --> 1:12:06.719 Well you will be, but no, you will. 1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:08.320 Depends on what it depends on what they do in 1:12:08.320 --> 1:12:08.720 the first three. 1:12:08.800 --> 1:12:14.479 I guess I think that there's one starting caliber kind 1:12:14.479 --> 1:12:17.040 of need on defense, and that's free safety, and that's 1:12:17.080 --> 1:12:19.320 where not the first round pick, but if if they 1:12:19.360 --> 1:12:21.880 went there in the third round or you know, top 1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:25.680 one hundred, top one fifty pick premium contract, that to 1:12:25.760 --> 1:12:27.800 me is the one big needs a starting free sete. 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:30.280 It just yeah, they're gonna have a couple. I will 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:32.040 hang on because I actually want to ask you something. 1:12:32.240 --> 1:12:36.200 They're gonna have a couple other ancillary needs. Uh, they're 1:12:36.240 --> 1:12:38.160 gonna need another boundary corner. They're gonna need like a 1:12:38.160 --> 1:12:40.400 third rotational boundary corner. That guy you can get later 1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:42.599 on or you can get in free agency. They're probably 1:12:42.600 --> 1:12:45.719 gonna need another depth pass rusher. Here's the one really 1:12:45.720 --> 1:12:48.200 interesting one. And nobody's really talking about this right now. 1:12:48.240 --> 1:12:50.600 I think we touched on it briefly a show or 1:12:50.640 --> 1:12:52.840 two of them. But this is one of the first 1:12:53.000 --> 1:12:55.960 bit after you know, whoever is making the decisions first 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:58.320 they got to decide just making the decisions whoever. That 1:12:58.560 --> 1:13:01.519 is one of the first big decisions that person has 1:13:01.560 --> 1:13:03.760 to make. And this is a tough one. Is what 1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:07.800 to do with Matthew Judon. He is gonna be thirty two. Yeah, 1:13:07.800 --> 1:13:11.160 he's coming off this injury. He has no guaranteed money 1:13:11.439 --> 1:13:13.720 in his contract next year, Yeah, the final year. 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:15.280 Gonna want to He's gonna want some money. 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:17.680 He is going to on a new deal. Uh, if 1:13:17.720 --> 1:13:20.640 they trade him, they open up or cut him. 1:13:20.640 --> 1:13:23.040 Actually it's the same. They open up five million dollars 1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:26.760 in cab cap spaces. Is that doesn't matter. Okay, they're 1:13:26.760 --> 1:13:28.640 gonna have one hundred million dollars in Okay. But the 1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:31.200 point being, like, what do you do you give Matthew 1:13:31.240 --> 1:13:33.200 jud On a new deal? Do you see if you 1:13:33.200 --> 1:13:34.960 can get value from him? Do you trade him? 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:37.320 Do you just outright release him to avoid the whole 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:40.000 thing if they move on for Matthew Judon and let's 1:13:40.000 --> 1:13:42.560 say josh U j goes now pass rusher is a 1:13:42.600 --> 1:13:46.160 premium need Now pass Rusher, you're and that's why I 1:13:46.280 --> 1:13:48.320 know you don't want to hear it. But if Bill's 1:13:48.320 --> 1:13:49.600 still in charge. 1:13:50.120 --> 1:13:52.360 I'm gonna jump across the table at you right now. 1:13:52.600 --> 1:13:56.360 Two years ago just like what are we doing? Like okay, 1:13:56.400 --> 1:13:59.080 so you you just you're worried about like what like 1:13:59.479 --> 1:14:01.559 that they're not going to be able to sack the 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:03.640 quarterback now they're gonna be able to get to him. 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:05.360 For two years ago, when they had a really good 1:14:05.400 --> 1:14:08.080 starting left guard and traded him for no reason and 1:14:08.120 --> 1:14:09.840 then use the first round pick to replace him. 1:14:09.880 --> 1:14:12.639 God, it's just this is the problem with this team though. 1:14:12.880 --> 1:14:16.040 And I think to Eddie's call, I hear you that 1:14:16.040 --> 1:14:18.679 that they that they need to keep the cupboard stocked 1:14:18.680 --> 1:14:22.080 on defense. They don't have the luxury to operate like 1:14:22.120 --> 1:14:27.759 that anymore. They have immediate holes, left tackle, quarterback, number 1:14:27.760 --> 1:14:31.320 one wide receiver. These are things that they need now 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:34.080 and I and maybe five years ago, ten years ago, 1:14:34.479 --> 1:14:37.679 they could have operated in this scenario where they draft 1:14:37.800 --> 1:14:40.920 Nate Solder in the first round knowing that he's probably 1:14:40.920 --> 1:14:43.559 not gonna play because Matt Lighte is going to retire. 1:14:43.840 --> 1:14:45.320 They don't have that luxury. 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:47.280 Scenes this is this is where I'm worried for. Like 1:14:47.360 --> 1:14:49.360 Bill comes in says, all right, it's the year two 1:14:49.400 --> 1:14:51.320 early or too late thing. We're moving on from Jude 1:14:51.320 --> 1:14:53.360 on and boom, I can get Dallas Turner and replace him. 1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:55.800 That's what I'd be worried about with Bill cop back. 1:14:55.840 --> 1:14:57.840 But that they can't think that way. 1:14:58.000 --> 1:14:59.920 I know the I and that's why I said them 1:15:00.560 --> 1:15:03.519 their biggest But isn't that isn't that wouldn't that be 1:15:03.840 --> 1:15:08.400 if nothing changes, wouldn't that be their approach if if if. 1:15:07.760 --> 1:15:10.640 I'm rkk, i am, I am livid if they do, 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:12.920 And that's my point, and that's my point. I fire 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:13.240 him on this. 1:15:13.439 --> 1:15:18.280 But that that lines up, all right, that that thing aside, 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:20.920 that thing aside, Yeah, do you bring Jude on back? 1:15:22.680 --> 1:15:27.040 I bring Jude on back simply because I feel like 1:15:27.120 --> 1:15:31.000 this team and this other than I like identifying talent 1:15:31.120 --> 1:15:35.280 personnel wise, I think the bigger issue with this team 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:39.200 actually hasn't necessarily been recently in the draft, the twenty 1:15:39.240 --> 1:15:43.080 twenty two draft, like aside, right, it hasn't necessarily been 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:47.160 solely talent evaluation. It's been the fact that they constantly 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:50.479 are chasing their tails at premium positions, like they have 1:15:50.600 --> 1:15:55.960 not solved tackle. So every freaking year it's just a 1:15:55.960 --> 1:15:58.920 a you know, roll of dex of tackles that were 1:15:58.960 --> 1:16:02.599 just cycling through. Now it's now it's Trent Brown, Now 1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:05.439 it's Connor McDermott, now it's Vederian Low. Now we're kicking 1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:08.080 on when you back outside, like we're just we're constantly 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:11.320 chasing our tail at tackles. They're constantly chasing their tail 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:14.479 at guard like they just blew up their interior offensive 1:16:14.520 --> 1:16:17.040 line for no freaking reason. And now they're using a 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:19.400 first round pick on a guard, a fourth round pick 1:16:19.439 --> 1:16:22.200 on a guard. The guard they're they're they're just going crazy, 1:16:22.439 --> 1:16:26.920 right because of a hole that they created wide receiver. 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:30.200 They let Jacoby Myers walk, So then they have they 1:16:30.240 --> 1:16:32.960 have to pay Juju Smith Schuster because they let Jacoby 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:36.679 Myers walk instead of just adding to Jacoby Meyers. We're 1:16:36.760 --> 1:16:41.200 constantly filling holes. And when you're constantly filling holes, your 1:16:41.240 --> 1:16:43.960 boat is constantly taking on water and you're just trying 1:16:43.960 --> 1:16:46.719 to plug the holes in the boat. And I feel 1:16:46.720 --> 1:16:50.080 like for this team getting rid of Matthew Judhon and 1:16:50.200 --> 1:16:53.160 let's you have a let's just say, the only way 1:16:53.200 --> 1:16:55.360 that I'm like sitting here saying, all right, I get 1:16:55.400 --> 1:16:58.040 it is if you have a whole new regime next 1:16:58.080 --> 1:17:01.360 year and we're completely blowing it out and we're we're 1:17:01.800 --> 1:17:04.200 truly starting from scratch, and we're saying to ourselves like, 1:17:04.240 --> 1:17:06.960 this is this is a rebuilt right three year project? Right, 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:08.040 this is a three year projects? 1:17:08.080 --> 1:17:09.320 What good does cheote on? 1:17:09.360 --> 1:17:12.960 Do you during that? Fine? But I just feel like 1:17:12.960 --> 1:17:16.800 we're constantly chasing our tails at so many different positions, 1:17:17.439 --> 1:17:21.360 and they don't have the luxury at the top of 1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:23.280 the draft to do the year too early instead of a 1:17:23.320 --> 1:17:26.000 year too late thing, and and draft guys like that. 1:17:26.320 --> 1:17:28.840 And I feel like they did do that last year 1:17:29.200 --> 1:17:32.600 with Keon White, with Marty Mapu with City. So with 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:36.000 all the light, those guys are all and it didn't 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:37.160 help the team in the heid. 1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:38.960 I was a twenty twenty four draft. That draft was 1:17:38.960 --> 1:17:41.000 for twenty twenty four. So that's why I'm saying, like 1:17:41.040 --> 1:17:42.400 I just had this thought the other day when I 1:17:42.439 --> 1:17:44.880 was looking at chet on his contract, Like old school 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:47.600 Bill Belichick, this is one hundred percent what he would do. 1:17:47.920 --> 1:17:49.559 I would bring that to Jude on back. I think 1:17:49.560 --> 1:17:51.240 he's a valuable voice in the locker room. I think 1:17:51.240 --> 1:17:53.000 he can still play. Yeah, you know, I'm not saying 1:17:53.040 --> 1:17:55.400 his injury wasn't serious, but like it's easy to come 1:17:55.439 --> 1:17:57.519 back from elbow injury and like you know, a knee injury, 1:17:57.600 --> 1:18:00.360 hip injury, back injury, something like that. So I bring 1:18:00.439 --> 1:18:02.240 him back. I would bring him back, and I'd actually 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:03.920 give him new money. I wouldn't just move money this 1:18:03.960 --> 1:18:06.680 time to avoid the situation. But that is going to 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:09.680 be a decision that has to be made here that's 1:18:09.720 --> 1:18:12.120 coming up. It's a fair point, all right, let's just 1:18:12.280 --> 1:18:14.880 sorry to bring it back like that would be. The 1:18:14.920 --> 1:18:17.599 free safety is the only true starting caliber need unless 1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:19.639 Jude on walks, then you add defensive end as well. 1:18:19.800 --> 1:18:22.479 Jeez. All right, let's do three up, three down real quick, 1:18:22.479 --> 1:18:24.880 and then we'll rapid fire through our rest of our 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:29.200 list here. All right, I'll just like get out of those. 1:18:29.640 --> 1:18:31.080 I'll get it out of the way. Number one up 1:18:31.120 --> 1:18:36.280 is Christian Barmore. Christian Barmore. I've seen some really good 1:18:36.280 --> 1:18:39.280 defensive games from Patriots in my time covering the team 1:18:39.600 --> 1:18:42.920 since eighteen. You know, a couple of those Tefan Gilmour 1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:45.479 games in twenty nineteen is Defensive Player of the Year 1:18:46.160 --> 1:18:49.840 campaign come to mind. You know, he just absolutely erasing 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:52.880 guys out of games and things like that. This was 1:18:52.960 --> 1:18:54.439 up there. To me, it was one of the best 1:18:54.479 --> 1:18:58.160 defensive performances I've ever seen in person, like with my 1:18:58.200 --> 1:19:02.040 own eyes. Right, I'm not talking about like Von Miller 1:19:02.080 --> 1:19:04.519 in the Super Bowl in twenty fifteen, or like Lawrence 1:19:04.560 --> 1:19:06.600 Taylor in the eighties with the Giants, Like I'm not 1:19:06.640 --> 1:19:09.960 talking about that. I'm just saying in my time covering 1:19:10.000 --> 1:19:13.120 the team with my own eyes at the game, Christian 1:19:13.120 --> 1:19:16.400 bar Moore three sacks in the same quarter, two stuffs, 1:19:16.439 --> 1:19:21.280 I thought, the very first turnover on downs after the fumble, 1:19:21.720 --> 1:19:24.160 he basically took over the line of scrimmage for two 1:19:24.200 --> 1:19:26.439 straight plays and was the reason why the Broncos didn't 1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:32.000 score on that drive. Absolutely dominant, dominant performance. And I 1:19:32.040 --> 1:19:34.679 think we're at the point with Christian bar Moore where 1:19:34.760 --> 1:19:37.599 I think we can call him a star in this league. 1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:39.760 He is a star player. He's been doing it all 1:19:39.840 --> 1:19:43.160 year long, and he's gonna be a building block for 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:46.920 this team moving forward. This is by far the most 1:19:47.880 --> 1:19:51.080 kind of exciting thing that's come from this season. Yeah, 1:19:51.240 --> 1:19:53.439 is that they have a pillar, I believe on the 1:19:53.479 --> 1:19:54.840 defensive line with Christian. 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:56.559 Bar He's finally healthy and he's playing super well and 1:19:56.560 --> 1:19:58.120 it's fun to see. And this is the guy you 1:19:58.200 --> 1:20:01.160 saw coming out of Alabama. Everybody was surprised he fell 1:20:01.160 --> 1:20:03.280 out of the first round. This is why, because the 1:20:03.760 --> 1:20:07.400 three down game wrecking ability was apparent, and he really 1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:09.200 wasn't healthy his first two years, and now he is 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:09.800 and you're seeing it. 1:20:09.880 --> 1:20:13.000 Yeah, you get his run defense has just improved dramatically. 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:15.640 He's stronger, I think at the point of attack than 1:20:15.680 --> 1:20:17.680 he was before. I'm sure there's some technique things that 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:21.240 he's fixed his health, but he he always had the 1:20:21.320 --> 1:20:25.120 explosiveness off like his get off and his lateral quickness 1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:27.640 and things like that. But now his ability to just 1:20:27.680 --> 1:20:31.120 like hold up blocks or run through blocks or that, 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:33.960 just the power in his upper body. He has so 1:20:34.040 --> 1:20:36.599 much more pop in his hands than he did early 1:20:36.640 --> 1:20:40.479 on in his career. Just a dominant game wrecker. I 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:44.280 would encourage all all Patriots fans to hashtag Pro Bowl 1:20:44.360 --> 1:20:47.160 vote Christian Barmore because he should be in the Pro Bowl, 1:20:47.520 --> 1:20:50.360 all right, Number two up for me. Gotta give it 1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:52.080 to him, Gotta give him his flowers. I'm gonna give 1:20:52.080 --> 1:20:54.679 it to Bailey Zappi. I thought Bailey Zappi didn't wasn't 1:20:54.680 --> 1:20:57.679 perfect in this game. The fumble in the very first 1:20:57.720 --> 1:20:59.960 play of the game. I maybe would put like half 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:02.160 of that on him for holding the ball a little 1:21:02.160 --> 1:21:04.439 bit too long. But I also thought that a good 1:21:04.479 --> 1:21:07.320 offensive line allows him to come off the first raid 1:21:07.320 --> 1:21:09.320 and get to pop Douglas over the middle of the field. 1:21:09.360 --> 1:21:13.240 But they don't have that kind of time. Other than that, play. Yeah, 1:21:13.280 --> 1:21:15.439 we can nitpick some of the miss throws that we 1:21:15.520 --> 1:21:18.559 mentioned earlier against the Blitzes, and you know, a couple 1:21:18.600 --> 1:21:21.479 of misses there. But when you put up these kinds 1:21:21.479 --> 1:21:24.000 of numbers and you play the way that he played, 1:21:24.040 --> 1:21:26.599 and then you also have you know, the plays late 1:21:26.640 --> 1:21:29.280 in the game to win the game. I thought, Bailey 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:32.240 ZAPPI played one of the best quarterback games. You know, 1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:34.519 Mac Jones against Buffalo is still the best quarterback game 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:36.400 of the year, but I thought that this might have 1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:38.080 been the second best quarterback game of the year. 1:21:38.439 --> 1:21:40.840 Yeah, he was. He was definitely good in this game. 1:21:40.880 --> 1:21:43.559 More good than bad, I think. Yeah, all right, who 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:47.240 was your second Miles Bryant? Miss Bryant bailed him out 1:21:47.240 --> 1:21:50.439 in this game. And him playing competitively against Courtland Sutton 1:21:50.560 --> 1:21:53.360 was early before Sutton got hurt. Was good to see. 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:56.160 And I just didn't leave the field, made number of 1:21:56.200 --> 1:21:59.240 big plays. I think, if there's a game to point too, 1:21:59.280 --> 1:22:02.200 where with my Bryan's value is to the Patriots, that 1:22:02.280 --> 1:22:06.120 was it put him anywhere, heady, instinctive exactly. He just 1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:08.479 always around the ball. I thought he was. He was excellent. 1:22:08.560 --> 1:22:11.840 Yeah, his man coverage numbers are still terrible. Like I'm 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:17.679 just gonna still can't cover anybody in man coverage. 1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:20.760 He's the same. I still think he's a safety. I 1:22:20.800 --> 1:22:22.160 still truly believe he's a safety. 1:22:22.280 --> 1:22:26.719 Yeah he's he's a nickel, but he's like a nickel safety. 1:22:26.800 --> 1:22:29.599 He's not a nickel corner, right, And there's a difference, Like, yeah, 1:22:29.720 --> 1:22:32.680 nickel corners are guys that can man up slot receivers. 1:22:33.080 --> 1:22:37.240 He's not one of those guys. It's interesting because he's 1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:40.160 had a really good Patriots career and like kind of 1:22:40.160 --> 1:22:42.599 an upward ascension here with this is being I think 1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:45.559 his best year, but he really probably belongs in like 1:22:45.600 --> 1:22:48.360 his own defense. Like if you if he was playing 1:22:48.360 --> 1:22:52.040 in like a Seattle three system or like Fangio's like 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:54.360 quarter to quarter half system, like he would be so 1:22:54.479 --> 1:22:58.200 much better. But because the Patriots play forty percent man coverage, 1:22:58.240 --> 1:22:59.920 like he just has to play some man to man 1:23:00.040 --> 1:23:02.160 and he's just not his strong suit. But he's a 1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:05.240 nickel safety and like a Fangio defense, and he'd be 1:23:05.280 --> 1:23:07.400 like really good at that, like somebody like Chauncey Gardner 1:23:07.479 --> 1:23:11.000 Johnson for example, or or along those lines. They just 1:23:11.000 --> 1:23:12.840 have they have to play him in this spot and 1:23:13.080 --> 1:23:17.240 it's not it's not exactly like his best natural position, 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:20.080 and I think that's a big reason why he gets 1:23:20.080 --> 1:23:21.240 picked on in man cover. 1:23:21.200 --> 1:23:23.200 A little breaking news Patriots move practice and such. 1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:25.479 I love that. Thank god, I was not going out 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:28.080 there all right. Third Star, I kind of combined two 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:31.439 guys here, Pop Douglas and DeVante Parker. I thought both 1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:34.320 those guys made some really high level plays that we 1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:38.600 haven't really seen the Patriots receivers make. DeVante Parker, for 1:23:38.680 --> 1:23:41.479 all of his warts and all of his issues and 1:23:41.560 --> 1:23:45.439 all of his limitations as a separator, going and making 1:23:45.479 --> 1:23:48.360 two big catches on Patrick Sartan, one of the top 1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:50.880 five cornerback in this league, and doing it with the 1:23:50.920 --> 1:23:54.639 game on the line late that that's that's some pretty 1:23:55.200 --> 1:23:58.320 that's ballsy like that. That's some gutsy play right there. 1:23:58.800 --> 1:24:01.479 Bailey Zappi and him, I don't know if you want 1:24:01.479 --> 1:24:03.639 to call it. You know, they checked it, alerted it 1:24:03.840 --> 1:24:07.640 to that fade on the game winning drive with the 1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:10.639 game on the line, in a tie game on the road, 1:24:11.120 --> 1:24:14.080 and they checked to a fade to Devonte Parker against 1:24:14.080 --> 1:24:16.320 maybe the best cornerback in the NFL, and they make 1:24:16.360 --> 1:24:18.519 the play. You gotta give him their flowers for that 1:24:18.640 --> 1:24:21.320 like that. That was a really impressive play and even 1:24:21.320 --> 1:24:23.599 though he had the drop, I just think Pop Douglas 1:24:23.680 --> 1:24:27.400 is such a breadth of fresh air for this football team. Finally, 1:24:27.400 --> 1:24:30.559 a receiver that moves at a different speed than other guys, 1:24:30.600 --> 1:24:33.120 that's faster than people that can get open at the 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:36.040 top of the route, the whip route, the slant. Obviously 1:24:36.080 --> 1:24:38.240 made a great catch on the forty one yard catch 1:24:38.240 --> 1:24:42.200 as well, But just having that slot receiver. He's a 1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:45.719 different type of slot than like a Jacobi certainly because 1:24:45.720 --> 1:24:48.400 of the size, but even then like an Edelman Ara Welker. 1:24:48.439 --> 1:24:52.080 I feel like he's mostly like a Dionne branch Ish 1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:55.479 type of player. But just watching a Patriots receiver be 1:24:55.520 --> 1:24:58.240 able to like run away from coverage and get open 1:24:58.240 --> 1:25:01.000 against mant to man, it's for he. 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:03.280 Was really good in this game. He was and he 1:25:03.320 --> 1:25:06.000 continues to be. I've said this before, the Patriots offense 1:25:06.120 --> 1:25:10.080 needs to look different next year. What exactly it looks like, 1:25:10.120 --> 1:25:11.960 I don't know. I mean, it depends on so many things, 1:25:12.000 --> 1:25:15.800 but whatever coach is designing it or whatever quarterbacks put 1:25:15.800 --> 1:25:17.000 into it, like there needs to be a role for 1:25:17.040 --> 1:25:20.160 Pop Dougas in a significant role. He's the best receiver. Yeah, 1:25:20.200 --> 1:25:22.559 and I mean he's their leading receiver right now. Nobody 1:25:22.600 --> 1:25:25.519 has more catches of the yards and overall, like ahead 1:25:25.520 --> 1:25:27.000 of Hunter Henry, ahead of everybody. 1:25:27.040 --> 1:25:28.160 All Right, you got anymore? 1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:31.559 I got two more? Mac Wilson another very good game. 1:25:31.560 --> 1:25:33.880 I thought it was interesting on Tuesday that Girod Mayo 1:25:34.560 --> 1:25:38.320 basically said that they misused him last year, that they 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:39.880 were playing him out of position last year, and he's 1:25:39.880 --> 1:25:42.080 playing some of the best football of his NFL career 1:25:42.400 --> 1:25:44.040 looking like the guy he did at Alabama as a 1:25:44.040 --> 1:25:46.760 complimentary pass rusher. He's a guy I wonder if you 1:25:46.800 --> 1:25:49.439 expand that role next year, if Josh j doesn't come 1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:54.040 back and he becomes that guy opposite Matthew Judah. Yeah, 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:56.760 he is it even discount I mean, he looks really 1:25:56.800 --> 1:25:57.320 good right now. 1:25:57.439 --> 1:26:00.200 So he hasn't played enough snaps, all right, but he's 1:26:00.240 --> 1:26:03.040 only playing like twenty five snaps a game or something 1:26:03.120 --> 1:26:05.200 like that. He's just making the most of the snaps. 1:26:04.880 --> 1:26:06.559 That he's a guy that should be back. 1:26:07.479 --> 1:26:09.360 Yeah, I mean he's not. He's going to be affordable, Like, 1:26:09.400 --> 1:26:11.040 it's not like it's gonna cost you a ton of money. 1:26:11.080 --> 1:26:12.960 And then so I didn't have Pop Douglas because I 1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:16.839 just I think you saw great stuff from the majority 1:26:16.880 --> 1:26:18.599 of rookie class in this game. I think you saw 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:21.200 the rookie class really start to come on. Keon White 1:26:21.240 --> 1:26:23.080 has had like three good games in a row now, 1:26:23.080 --> 1:26:25.320 and I think, remember get a really good camp. Was 1:26:25.320 --> 1:26:27.479 good the first couple of weeks. He got that concussion, right, 1:26:27.479 --> 1:26:28.920 I think it probably took him a little bit of 1:26:28.920 --> 1:26:31.160 time toward his way back from that. But he looks 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:34.200 fully healthy out. He's playing super well. Marte Mapu forces 1:26:34.240 --> 1:26:35.960 a turnover for the second week in a row. You 1:26:36.040 --> 1:26:38.200 love to see that. And he's playing more linebacker now, 1:26:38.360 --> 1:26:39.040 which is good. 1:26:39.520 --> 1:26:39.640 Uh. 1:26:39.880 --> 1:26:43.439 Obviously, Pop Douglas, you know, had a big game. I 1:26:43.479 --> 1:26:48.280 thought City So played pretty well. Yeah, Antonio Maffi stepping 1:26:48.320 --> 1:26:51.599 in for his you know, the most significant snaps he's 1:26:51.600 --> 1:26:53.320 had in a while. He could have been better, but 1:26:53.360 --> 1:26:55.439 like he was, it wasn't as bad as it looked. 1:26:55.479 --> 1:26:57.519 I'd say a month, Oh you have him as down. 1:26:57.600 --> 1:27:00.719 Yeah all right, I maybe the bar was set solow 1:27:00.760 --> 1:27:03.439 from like last time he played. But yeah, and then 1:27:03.439 --> 1:27:05.599 he Bryce Baringer I thought had a really good game too. 1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:07.720 Ryland was kind of up and down. But I think 1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:08.840 for the most point. 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:13.200 Oh, come on, how about Chad the show I've ever heard? 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:15.680 But he missed, he missed, he missed two kicks. So 1:27:15.840 --> 1:27:18.360 he's not an up or down for me. He's it's 1:27:18.400 --> 1:27:18.920 in between. 1:27:19.240 --> 1:27:20.439 But I think I'm happy. 1:27:20.479 --> 1:27:22.600 I'm happy for Oh no, no, you're wrong, I'm happy for 1:27:22.640 --> 1:27:22.880 the guy. 1:27:22.960 --> 1:27:25.880 But and Bryce Behinger saying how about Chad. 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:27.200 That's a great clip. 1:27:27.280 --> 1:27:30.760 Yeah, they the two of them together, it reminds me 1:27:31.000 --> 1:27:33.640 a ton of Jeremy Swamon and Linas Olmark. There's a 1:27:33.640 --> 1:27:36.679 little bit of that, just like two like nut jobs 1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:40.040 that like are just made for each other. It's just great. 1:27:40.600 --> 1:27:44.160 I think those two guys who knows, like what what 1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:46.400 the future holds and if both of them are going 1:27:46.479 --> 1:27:48.880 to succeed here. Both of them aren't like whatever, but 1:27:49.560 --> 1:27:52.120 their relationship is pretty funny, Like they're like just two 1:27:52.200 --> 1:27:52.920 peas in a pod. 1:27:53.120 --> 1:27:55.680 Yeah, but I think you saw great stuff from the 1:27:55.720 --> 1:27:56.280 rookie class. 1:27:56.360 --> 1:27:58.040 Yeah, I would agree with that. All right, let's go 1:27:58.120 --> 1:28:03.920 to the downs. My number one down is the guy 1:28:03.960 --> 1:28:07.639 that you just said, wasn't that bad? Antonio Maffi offensive 1:28:07.680 --> 1:28:12.120 line guy, Antonio Maffi three holds, a quarterback hit and 1:28:12.200 --> 1:28:13.880 three hurries in this game he. 1:28:13.760 --> 1:28:16.480 Called for three holds. 1:28:17.840 --> 1:28:21.519 I put, Oh yeah, I put Antonio Maffi and James 1:28:21.520 --> 1:28:23.799 Ferrence in just a left guard puzzle. 1:28:23.840 --> 1:28:25.000 So I had James Ferrence. 1:28:25.439 --> 1:28:28.000 They're just in the left guard puzzle for me. And 1:28:29.000 --> 1:28:32.519 it is very I don't know if it's like a 1:28:32.560 --> 1:28:35.280 good thing, a bad thing, an alarming thing. I don't 1:28:35.320 --> 1:28:37.879 know how to feel about it. But the fact that 1:28:37.880 --> 1:28:40.160 that there was that steep of a drop off from 1:28:40.160 --> 1:28:43.000 Cole Strange to what they have behind Cole Strange, I 1:28:43.080 --> 1:28:45.920 think just speaks to the whole problem in general with 1:28:45.960 --> 1:28:49.439 the team right now. That like losing Cole Strange and 1:28:49.479 --> 1:28:53.760 losing Connor McDermott was like this huge travesty for the Patriots, 1:28:53.800 --> 1:28:56.439 right And we're not exactly talking about Matt Ltton logan 1:28:56.479 --> 1:28:59.479 makings here, okay, And the fact that that was the 1:28:59.520 --> 1:29:03.800 case was troubling. There was and maybe it means that 1:29:03.880 --> 1:29:06.719 Cole Strange, you know, I started giving cole Strange some love, 1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:09.120 like a couple of good games in a row. Seemed 1:29:09.120 --> 1:29:11.880 to be playing better before he got hurt. Maybe cole 1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:14.800 Strange was starting to turn a corner. And that's why 1:29:14.840 --> 1:29:17.439 my eyes are like so alarmed by what I saw 1:29:17.600 --> 1:29:20.880 left guard with these two guys. The strip sack on 1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:23.200 the first play of the game was the least competitive 1:29:23.240 --> 1:29:25.439 snap of offensive line play I've seen all Yeah, from 1:29:25.479 --> 1:29:30.240 James ference just absolutely brutal. And then Mafi, Mafi's just 1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:33.400 not ready, Like Mafi's just not ready his foot speed, 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:35.160 He's gonna have to lose some weight and he's gonna 1:29:35.200 --> 1:29:36.960 have to get it. He's gonna have to improve his 1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:39.519 quickness and his foot speed in order to play in 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:43.719 the league. So those two guys at left guard. Maybe 1:29:43.720 --> 1:29:46.760 it's a positive that Cole Strange is better than we thought. 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:49.479 Maybe it's a negative that their offensive line depth is 1:29:49.520 --> 1:29:51.360 so bad. But both of them were bad in this game. 1:29:51.760 --> 1:29:55.840 Yeah, I just had to like to run the run game. Yeah, 1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:58.840 they ran for outside of the end a round. I 1:29:58.840 --> 1:30:02.880 think it was to here somewhere two point five yards 1:30:02.880 --> 1:30:06.640 per carry against a team that was last in the 1:30:06.680 --> 1:30:08.519 legs over five yards per carry. 1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:11.040 So I think we're in the in the category now though, 1:30:11.040 --> 1:30:13.080 because the Chiefs were not a good run defense either, 1:30:13.200 --> 1:30:14.800 and they couldn't run the ball. They couldn't run the 1:30:14.800 --> 1:30:16.559 ball against the worst run defense in the league in 1:30:16.400 --> 1:30:18.479 the in the Broncos. I think we're just at the 1:30:18.520 --> 1:30:21.479 category or at the point now where the Patriots are 1:30:21.479 --> 1:30:25.679 in that category of priority Number one for every team 1:30:25.720 --> 1:30:26.200 is we're. 1:30:26.000 --> 1:30:28.320 Not stopped to run. Yeah, they're just they're loading up 1:30:28.320 --> 1:30:29.080 in the box and Derek. 1:30:29.200 --> 1:30:33.480 So that's why I'm basically just throwing out like opponents 1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:36.720 like run stats, like where they rank and stuff like that, 1:30:36.880 --> 1:30:39.720 because I don't think it's an apples to apples when 1:30:39.720 --> 1:30:41.960 they play play the Patriots, like Zeke Elliott is not 1:30:42.080 --> 1:30:46.639 beating the Denver Broncos. Like That's Vance Joseph's line when 1:30:46.680 --> 1:30:48.960 he opens the meeting, right is, we're not going to 1:30:49.080 --> 1:30:50.960 just let them turn the ball, you know, turn around 1:30:51.000 --> 1:30:52.519 and hand the ball off to Zeke. Like, we're not 1:30:52.560 --> 1:30:55.680 going to let them do that. So you had you 1:30:55.720 --> 1:31:00.720 had run game? Yeah, okay. Number two, Trent Brown, I 1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:05.240 just I I think we can seriously say, and I 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:06.920 know I've ragged on him a lot on this show, 1:31:07.960 --> 1:31:10.800 but I'm at the point now with Trent Brown where 1:31:11.360 --> 1:31:13.880 I like he should be done as a Patriot, Like 1:31:14.439 --> 1:31:18.000 he shouldn't play again as a Patriot. A quarterback hit 1:31:18.120 --> 1:31:21.560 a hurry, two stuffed runs to his side of the field, 1:31:22.200 --> 1:31:25.200 gave up on the Taekwon Thornton jet sweep, just flat 1:31:25.240 --> 1:31:28.679 out gave up, didn't play through the whistle. If Dante 1:31:28.720 --> 1:31:32.600 Scarnecia was still here, I can only imagine Dante Scarnekia. 1:31:32.680 --> 1:31:35.960 Well, I don't think Trent Brown would be playing with still. 1:31:37.360 --> 1:31:40.559 It's his effort has gone way down. I think his 1:31:40.640 --> 1:31:44.040 weight has gone up again. Like I don't think he's 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:46.640 you know, as in good as shape as he was 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:50.080 at the beginning of the year. He is a good 1:31:50.160 --> 1:31:52.719 left tackle, a starting caliber left tackle in this league 1:31:52.720 --> 1:31:55.759 when he's locked in, but he he's a mental case, 1:31:55.920 --> 1:31:59.160 like you just you can't keep that guy on on 1:31:59.240 --> 1:32:02.080 the on the bandwagon. Yeah, and at a four and 1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:04.240 eleven team, he's exactly the type of guy that's gonna 1:32:04.320 --> 1:32:07.439 jump off and and that's exactly what happens. They just 1:32:07.479 --> 1:32:10.160 need to move on from that type of player with 1:32:10.240 --> 1:32:12.559 that type of attitude, and they need to have somebody 1:32:12.600 --> 1:32:15.760 like at this point, it's I'm almost like bummed out 1:32:15.760 --> 1:32:18.040 that Connor mcdermot's on IR because, like I would rather 1:32:18.080 --> 1:32:20.559 just see Connor McDermott try his ass off for seventy 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:22.840 plays then continue to put Trent Brown. 1:32:22.960 --> 1:32:25.160 Maybe you'll get that from Vederian Love maybe. 1:32:25.360 --> 1:32:27.479 Yeah, Like I would just rather see that, Like at 1:32:27.560 --> 1:32:29.880 least the guy's giving all out effort. At least he's trying. 1:32:30.479 --> 1:32:32.840 Trent Brown is my second death? 1:32:33.040 --> 1:32:35.360 You got, uh Brennan school or Chris Board? 1:32:35.400 --> 1:32:36.800 Oh there just third down? 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:39.280 Yeah, okay, well my third down you're gonna roll your 1:32:39.280 --> 1:32:42.400 eyes at. But another mistackle for Brennan' Schooler on the 1:32:42.400 --> 1:32:45.559 big punt return Chris Board just a bizarre penalty running 1:32:45.560 --> 1:32:46.080 out of bounds. 1:32:46.240 --> 1:32:46.479 Yeah. 1:32:46.560 --> 1:32:49.360 Uh, They're still not good at kit coverage is still 1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:51.839 an issue. The kick coverage is still a massive issue, 1:32:52.080 --> 1:32:54.639 and that's a group that needs to be get ready. People. 1:32:54.680 --> 1:32:56.920 They're gonna have to sign special teams this offseason because 1:32:56.920 --> 1:32:59.439 the ones they have now aren't good enough. So I 1:32:59.439 --> 1:33:01.599 actually kind of want them. It's not their main priority, 1:33:01.680 --> 1:33:03.360 and it shouldn't be the only thing they do, but 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:05.000 they need to get some kick coverage guys in here, 1:33:05.000 --> 1:33:08.640 because they're seriously struggling in that regard right now. And 1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:10.479 I just I don't see Matthew Slater coming back at 1:33:10.479 --> 1:33:10.840 this point. 1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:14.200 So the problem is is that these are They're not 1:33:14.360 --> 1:33:18.879 just struggling within the margins. These are like backbreaking issues, 1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:20.920 Like a fifty two yard punt return is a big 1:33:20.960 --> 1:33:24.080 deal in a game. Chris Board's penalty cost them what 1:33:24.200 --> 1:33:27.080 nineteen yards of field position? That's a big deal. Like 1:33:27.160 --> 1:33:30.400 those are yards that really matter and field position that 1:33:30.479 --> 1:33:33.120 really matters. I had them too as my third down. 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:34.960 And you know, if I had special teams guys on 1:33:35.000 --> 1:33:37.040 my down list, then it's got to be really bad. 1:33:38.439 --> 1:33:41.360 Chris Board signed to be a special team's ace. Yeah, 1:33:41.600 --> 1:33:43.479 I've only heard his name called when he's when he's 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:47.240 getting called for a penalty all year long. And I 1:33:47.280 --> 1:33:49.840 want to seriously ask you, as the special teams guy 1:33:49.960 --> 1:33:52.960 on the program, what do they do with Brandon Schooler? 1:33:53.080 --> 1:33:56.960 Because he was this like Matthew Slater heir apparent right, 1:33:57.400 --> 1:33:58.519 He's had a horrible year. 1:33:59.040 --> 1:34:00.760 Yeah, he's a guy I think that has to win 1:34:00.800 --> 1:34:02.400 his job in camp next year and win his job 1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:04.240 in the preseason. It's that simple. I'm not you know, 1:34:04.280 --> 1:34:06.599 he's not a roster lock next year. If we were 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:08.960 to do Ross Projess twenty twenty four, I probably wouldn't 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:09.479 have him on the right. 1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:12.600 Yeah, I mean penalties a mistackle, and I'll say, if 1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:14.679 it's a new coaching staff, he's gone. 1:34:14.800 --> 1:34:16.519 He's I just don't see a keep around. 1:34:16.560 --> 1:34:19.280 I think that his biggest problem right now is just 1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:22.559 undisciplined play. Like he he plays fast and you want 1:34:22.640 --> 1:34:23.920 him to play he plays too fast. 1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:26.400 He needs to stop and think about what he's like 1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:28.840 in cam Acord kind of talked about it. It's just 1:34:28.840 --> 1:34:30.680 like we like the high motor, but it has to 1:34:30.680 --> 1:34:32.839 be in control. He just plays totally out of control. 1:34:32.960 --> 1:34:36.759 Yeah yeah, and in that it's on special teams. Playing 1:34:36.840 --> 1:34:40.559 that out of control is really bad because that's how 1:34:40.560 --> 1:34:41.840 you're giving up fifty two yards. 1:34:41.840 --> 1:34:43.719 It's all contained, it's all you can't blow contain. 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:45.400 Yeah, absolutely, all right, who's your last one? 1:34:45.400 --> 1:34:48.439 Sean Payton? I actually lost respect for Sean Payton too 1:34:48.520 --> 1:34:49.000 a little bit. 1:34:49.040 --> 1:34:50.880 And I kind of said it last week when we 1:34:50.880 --> 1:34:53.719 were talking about this game that I just on film. 1:34:53.760 --> 1:34:55.960 I just wasn't overly impressed with the offense that they 1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:56.519 were running. 1:34:56.880 --> 1:34:59.040 Okay, I'm not talking about anything scommatically. 1:34:59.080 --> 1:35:00.599 I get at their offense is pre no, but I'm 1:35:00.640 --> 1:35:04.040 just saying, like he's supposed to be this, yeah, this, 1:35:04.320 --> 1:35:08.880 like he's held to that that Belichick mystique of offensive mine, 1:35:08.920 --> 1:35:12.479 and they're just like running this like boring dinosaur offense. 1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:14.719 And then I'm sure you have your like in game reasons. 1:35:14.840 --> 1:35:16.880 Yeah, no, this is closet you break down the scheme, 1:35:16.920 --> 1:35:18.719 and then I get all annoyed because, all right, first off, 1:35:20.400 --> 1:35:23.800 first and goal from the six, you're gifted a possession. Yeah, 1:35:23.880 --> 1:35:27.519 one offensive genius Sean Payton just score a touchdown in 1:35:27.640 --> 1:35:31.200 three plays. Yeah, but when he didn't, you take the points, dude, 1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:33.280 You take the points to take three position. 1:35:33.479 --> 1:35:34.840 You know the nerds aren't taking the points. 1:35:34.880 --> 1:35:36.120 You take the points. All right, we'll get to that. 1:35:36.200 --> 1:35:37.760 We were we were gonna get to the nerds. Oh 1:35:38.080 --> 1:35:38.759 don't you worry. 1:35:38.760 --> 1:35:40.400 We were gonna get to We couldn't do a show 1:35:40.439 --> 1:35:42.639 without ragging on the nerds. It's not possible. 1:35:42.720 --> 1:35:46.080 Late in game, bron Patriots tie the game up, or sorry, 1:35:46.120 --> 1:35:48.320 broncus ty the game up. Forced Patriots punt. They get 1:35:48.360 --> 1:35:51.000 the ball back one forty two to go start at 1:35:51.000 --> 1:35:53.719 their own thirty nine. You need to go thirty yards 1:35:53.720 --> 1:35:56.639 for field goal position, like not a massive ask one 1:35:56.760 --> 1:36:00.080 for two to go, three timeouts. You're it's right in 1:36:00.120 --> 1:36:03.440 your lap and they come out with the most overly 1:36:03.640 --> 1:36:08.400 conservative offensive sequence of play calling. That screen that was 1:36:08.439 --> 1:36:11.360 I don't know who designed that screen fire them like Peyton. 1:36:11.680 --> 1:36:14.280 That was brutal. That was absolutely brutal. 1:36:14.320 --> 1:36:16.519 They just sound on it like nothing more than just 1:36:16.640 --> 1:36:20.280 trashing on coaches that he doesn't like, Like nobody exactly. 1:36:20.640 --> 1:36:24.599 I'm a big Sean Payge, like Brandon Staley anymore. We're 1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:27.920 gonna get to Brandon Sae, get to Brandon Staley, don't 1:36:27.960 --> 1:36:28.519 you worry. 1:36:28.680 --> 1:36:31.400 But and I like Sean Payton, I I like Chempayne. 1:36:31.400 --> 1:36:33.400 I always like those Saints teams. Like it hurts me 1:36:33.479 --> 1:36:36.000 to do this, but I have to be consistent. They 1:36:36.000 --> 1:36:37.679 come out, I mean, am I wrong with the most 1:36:37.760 --> 1:36:40.160 overly conservative when you just have to go thirty yards 1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:42.720 or three timeouts? They're running the ball, they're throwing screens, nothing, 1:36:42.720 --> 1:36:45.479 they punt the ball away and then the Patriots are 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:46.519 content to go to overtime. 1:36:46.720 --> 1:36:47.519 Yeah, the Patriot. 1:36:47.520 --> 1:36:50.160 And in that moment, there's a little less than a 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:53.560 minute ago, patrins only one time out. Patriots run the 1:36:53.600 --> 1:36:56.479 ball and they start calling timeouts in that moment and 1:36:56.760 --> 1:36:59.679 lets get out. Patriots have nothing to lose, nothing loose. 1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:02.479 Brutal Patriots have nothing to lose to broncras of everything 1:37:02.520 --> 1:37:04.280 to lose, and the Patriots are the only team that 1:37:04.280 --> 1:37:06.439 can win the game in that spot. They're comfortable going 1:37:06.439 --> 1:37:09.120 to overtime. Sean Payton says, no, no, we're gonna call 1:37:09.160 --> 1:37:11.160 time out. It would be one thing if like the 1:37:11.240 --> 1:37:13.639 offense is humming and you want the ball back because 1:37:13.640 --> 1:37:15.639 you can go down the field. Sean, you just had 1:37:15.640 --> 1:37:17.680 a chance to win the game. You sat on it. 1:37:18.040 --> 1:37:20.599 That was your shot. You don't start calling timeouts now. 1:37:20.800 --> 1:37:24.040 So he calls two timeouts. Patriots are like, all right, fine, 1:37:24.080 --> 1:37:25.519 I guess if you want us to win the game. 1:37:25.840 --> 1:37:28.400 Boom fade shot to DeVante Parker, which is great play 1:37:28.439 --> 1:37:30.720 by Parker, and Zappy to Reckon, they go sorry, they 1:37:30.800 --> 1:37:32.760 go press man. They go press man on. 1:37:32.720 --> 1:37:35.320 Third and five. Joseph in the time of his life. 1:37:35.320 --> 1:37:38.360 I mean, they go press man on third and five, 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:40.439 trying to get the game to go in overtime, and 1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:43.600 Bailey's Appy sees that, like, I guess you can't. And 1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:45.000 it's a good throat. It's a good catch, but like 1:37:45.040 --> 1:37:48.639 hand the game to them schematically anymore than that finally 1:37:48.680 --> 1:37:50.479 gets down the field. You have a kicker who is 1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:53.800 shaking in his boots having to kick fifty six yards 1:37:53.800 --> 1:37:56.880 on the road. Sean Payton doesn't call the timeouts ice 1:37:57.560 --> 1:38:00.320 for whatever reason, but to call the time them out 1:38:00.360 --> 1:38:04.920 here here's the overarching point. The Patriots are the only 1:38:04.960 --> 1:38:07.479 team that could win the game in regulation after the 1:38:07.479 --> 1:38:10.040 Broncos punted. The Broncos gave up their chance to do 1:38:10.080 --> 1:38:14.280 that with that overly conservative offensive sequence, and Sean Payton 1:38:14.320 --> 1:38:17.320 calls timeouts with the playoffs on the line to give 1:38:17.320 --> 1:38:19.679 the Patriots a chance to win the game and essentially 1:38:19.760 --> 1:38:22.600 knock the Broncos out of out of playoff contention. You 1:38:22.720 --> 1:38:24.960 know what that reminded me a ton of Evan and 1:38:25.000 --> 1:38:27.200 I said it the second he called the first time out. 1:38:28.240 --> 1:38:32.080 Brandon Staley in twenty twenty one in the overtime, b 1:38:32.479 --> 1:38:35.439 you you just okay? Do you remember I can't even 1:38:35.439 --> 1:38:38.240 get mad? Do you remember when Brandon Staley did in 1:38:38.280 --> 1:38:41.080 that game? The Raiders are the only team that can 1:38:41.120 --> 1:38:43.559 win the game. They're in overtime. A tie sends them 1:38:43.560 --> 1:38:45.400 both to the playoffs, but if team. 1:38:45.200 --> 1:38:48.679 Wins job anymore team wins shots. 1:38:48.720 --> 1:38:50.960 If one team wins, the Steelers get the other spot. 1:38:51.320 --> 1:38:55.080 The Raiders are Sachi is ready to go to overtime, 1:38:55.200 --> 1:38:56.840 and he's sitting there saying, hey, we're both gonna go 1:38:56.840 --> 1:38:59.160 to the playoffs. This is pretty cool. And Brandon Staley, 1:38:59.320 --> 1:39:02.240 that idiot starts calling timeouts and the Raiders like, fine, 1:39:02.240 --> 1:39:03.880 if you're gonna give us another first down and we'll 1:39:03.880 --> 1:39:05.840 be in field goal range, I guess we can win 1:39:05.920 --> 1:39:06.240 the game. 1:39:06.439 --> 1:39:10.559 It was somewhere Brandon Staley is like sitting on a 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:14.479 beach and he's just like still trying to all time out, still. 1:39:15.720 --> 1:39:18.679 Not defending a run game. It was a Brandon Staley 1:39:18.800 --> 1:39:21.360 esque performance from Sean Payton. It kills me to say that, 1:39:21.400 --> 1:39:23.439 because he is a coach I do like a lot, 1:39:23.800 --> 1:39:26.439 but I respect him less after that game because that 1:39:26.680 --> 1:39:29.639 was to call those times out. I'm like, I'm sitting 1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:32.160 there literally yelling what are you doing? And my brother's like, 1:39:32.200 --> 1:39:33.559 he wants the ball. I'm watching him, and my brother 1:39:33.600 --> 1:39:35.880 goes he wants the ball back. I'm like, why why? 1:39:35.960 --> 1:39:38.000 He just they just punted on the game with that 1:39:38.120 --> 1:39:41.280 series support. So it's like he realized all of a sudden, oh, shoot, 1:39:41.280 --> 1:39:42.760 we can still win this. We need to get the 1:39:42.760 --> 1:39:47.000 ball back. Brutal, brutal stuff from Sean Payton in his wheelhouse. 1:39:47.400 --> 1:39:51.080 I I thought that that Bill Belichick and Drod May 1:39:51.160 --> 1:39:54.640 and Steve uh just coach circles. 1:39:53.800 --> 1:39:57.000 Around here, circles. They needed to get one of those 1:39:57.200 --> 1:40:00.880 heavy duty washing machines to clear the circles off the 1:40:00.960 --> 1:40:03.400 turf out of power field. The way they were coaching 1:40:03.400 --> 1:40:04.320 circles around. 1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:09.080 It was bad. They So the Saint are the Saints. 1:40:09.160 --> 1:40:13.280 The Broncos had those like toss plays early, right, and 1:40:13.520 --> 1:40:16.519 they're running toss and I actually was like, all right, 1:40:16.720 --> 1:40:19.920 Like that's a pretty good approach here in the game plan, 1:40:20.280 --> 1:40:22.519 because you don't want to run right at the Patriots 1:40:22.600 --> 1:40:26.000 run defense. You're not going to write Anthony Jennings Devon Godshow, 1:40:26.120 --> 1:40:29.280 bar More Bentley, like good luck trying to run between 1:40:29.320 --> 1:40:32.080 the tackles against the Patriots right now. So what do 1:40:32.120 --> 1:40:34.640 they do. They put the DB's in the fit, They 1:40:34.680 --> 1:40:37.680 toss the ball outside and they make Miles Bryant and 1:40:38.600 --> 1:40:42.920 Sean Waite and those guys tackle people. Fine, good game plan. 1:40:43.200 --> 1:40:46.120 That was literally all they had. That was it. They 1:40:46.160 --> 1:40:50.080 had nothing else. And Bill and Steve and Girod are 1:40:50.160 --> 1:40:53.080 running sim pressures right. They're putting six seven guys up 1:40:53.080 --> 1:40:55.120 with the line of scrimmage and they're dropping guys out, 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:59.080 Russian guys, and Russell Wilson looked like his head was spinning. Look, 1:40:59.720 --> 1:41:02.759 we just Donald out there, and I'm just thinking to myself, 1:41:03.120 --> 1:41:07.000 isn't this is offensive guru Sean Pailey. And usually when 1:41:07.160 --> 1:41:09.960 offensive guys like that take a year off, they like 1:41:10.000 --> 1:41:12.360 go in the lab, right like they they go and 1:41:12.760 --> 1:41:14.840 they go on like a little tour and they go. 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:17.680 It's like, you know, Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and 1:41:17.720 --> 1:41:21.920 Mike McDaniel and you know, all these offensive gurus Andy Reid, 1:41:22.160 --> 1:41:25.320 and they like learn stuff. They they absorb. 1:41:25.479 --> 1:41:28.479 Sean McVay just went to Brandon Staley School of clock management. 1:41:28.920 --> 1:41:32.679 They absorbed like like new things, new wrinkles for their offense. 1:41:33.240 --> 1:41:35.640 And Sean Payton's running the same offense he ran ten 1:41:35.720 --> 1:41:38.360 years ago in New Orleans. And we sit here and 1:41:38.360 --> 1:41:41.360 we always say that like Belichick, you know, it was Brady, 1:41:41.360 --> 1:41:43.760 It was Brady, was Brady. It was Drew brees Like 1:41:43.800 --> 1:41:46.519 we can finally put that one to bed, like it 1:41:46.560 --> 1:41:50.559 was Drew Breesert and that was it. All right, let's 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:53.120 before we wrap up here. We got two more phone 1:41:53.120 --> 1:41:55.519 calls and we're gonna go really quickly on some of 1:41:55.520 --> 1:41:57.800 these other things we want to talk about. Nicody is 1:41:57.840 --> 1:41:59.599 in West Virginia. What's up, Niccody? 1:42:00.400 --> 1:42:01.599 Hey, guys doing good. 1:42:03.400 --> 1:42:06.839 I just want to get your opinion on this defensive 1:42:06.880 --> 1:42:09.680 lineup for next year since we need to focus more 1:42:09.760 --> 1:42:16.120 on the offense. Say, Isaiah Bolden, you know, makes a 1:42:16.120 --> 1:42:19.120 good impact before the season starts, and he's the second 1:42:19.120 --> 1:42:22.559 outside corner, and obviously have Marcus Jones. 1:42:22.600 --> 1:42:23.080 That's plot. 1:42:24.439 --> 1:42:28.120 What could we move John Jones back to free safety, 1:42:28.640 --> 1:42:32.360 have freestigned Kyle Dugar and keep him at strong safety, 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:35.240 and then maybe move Peppers to linebacker. 1:42:36.479 --> 1:42:41.280 Yeah, thanks for the call to Cody. So I actually 1:42:41.439 --> 1:42:46.120 think that John Jones at free safety is not like 1:42:46.200 --> 1:42:48.840 a terrible idea. I know I've heard this one before. 1:42:48.920 --> 1:42:51.320 He's got the speed, all that kind of stuff, but 1:42:51.439 --> 1:42:52.719 he's been their best corner. 1:42:52.760 --> 1:42:54.040 If they were gonna do what they would have done 1:42:54.040 --> 1:42:54.439 it by now. 1:42:54.680 --> 1:42:56.760 He's also just like he's a really good corner and 1:42:56.800 --> 1:42:58.880 he's been playing through a knee injury this year and 1:42:58.920 --> 1:43:02.599 he's still put been really really good. I don't know, 1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:05.840 I mean, I just don't really feel the need to 1:43:05.920 --> 1:43:07.960 do it. I guess is why where I'm at with it. 1:43:07.880 --> 1:43:10.280 I would say keep the defensive lineup as similar to 1:43:10.320 --> 1:43:12.639 it as this year. I would swap out Kyle Duggart 1:43:12.640 --> 1:43:15.799 for a true free safety, add in another depth corner 1:43:15.840 --> 1:43:18.120 that you didn't get with Jack Jones and J. C. 1:43:18.280 --> 1:43:20.840 Jackson was supposed to be that third boundary corner, and 1:43:20.840 --> 1:43:23.920 you'll get Christianzalez back so him John Jones player to 1:43:23.960 --> 1:43:25.760 be named later, And then you're gonna need like one 1:43:25.840 --> 1:43:28.599 or two rotational edge rushers not top of the depth 1:43:28.680 --> 1:43:31.280 chart guys. Assuming you bring Jude On back, get Anthony 1:43:31.320 --> 1:43:34.479 Jennings back in here, get Tabrill Peppers locked up, get 1:43:34.680 --> 1:43:36.120 Christian Barmore locked up. 1:43:36.160 --> 1:43:38.280 And you're good to go. Like I, you don't need 1:43:38.280 --> 1:43:40.680 to touch a lot on defense. I do think you 1:43:40.680 --> 1:43:43.240 know we're gonna talk about the Jason mccordy of it all. Yeah, 1:43:43.240 --> 1:43:45.479 all right, we're gonna, you know, keep pounding that that 1:43:45.479 --> 1:43:49.599 that that third boundary corner that can play a pretty 1:43:49.600 --> 1:43:52.639 significant role. They they still have not figured that out. 1:43:53.240 --> 1:43:56.880 And they're gonna have John Jones. Christian Gonzales obviously gonna 1:43:56.880 --> 1:43:59.639 be your number one boundary corner. You're gonna have John Jones, 1:43:59.720 --> 1:44:03.120 Mark Jones, and I think they'll if it's this regime, 1:44:03.200 --> 1:44:04.280 is Myles Bryant will be. 1:44:04.760 --> 1:44:07.040 Right well, just on the boundary corner, like to the 1:44:07.040 --> 1:44:09.519 college point. Maybe it is Isaiah Yeah, maybe that guy 1:44:09.520 --> 1:44:12.360 has in the building camp before. Yeah, And honestly, Marco 1:44:12.400 --> 1:44:14.280 Wilson's gonna be under We didn't talk about Marco Wilson 1:44:14.360 --> 1:44:17.400 signed yesterday. He had a good year last year. He 1:44:17.439 --> 1:44:20.960 has not been good this year at all. But maybe 1:44:21.000 --> 1:44:23.680 he you know, I think right now it's him and 1:44:23.720 --> 1:44:26.320 Isaiah Boulden and camp for that third boundary corner role. 1:44:26.360 --> 1:44:28.640 And maybe he use like a fourth round pick on 1:44:28.680 --> 1:44:30.639 a guy, maybe bring in a veteran, and it's those 1:44:30.680 --> 1:44:31.840 four competing for one or. 1:44:31.760 --> 1:44:34.960 Two spots they they are starving for. You know, obviously 1:44:34.960 --> 1:44:37.280 it was supposed to be Jack Jones, right, but like 1:44:37.360 --> 1:44:41.080 that fourth round corner that's just like a functioning outside 1:44:41.200 --> 1:44:44.360 boundary guy, Like that's exactly what they need. And it 1:44:44.560 --> 1:44:46.800 should have been Jack Jones. It wasn't, but that that 1:44:46.840 --> 1:44:49.280 type of guy just without the baggage that I've. 1:44:49.120 --> 1:44:50.519 Got a guy that's interesting. If we get to the 1:44:50.560 --> 1:44:51.559 college football playoffs. 1:44:51.560 --> 1:44:55.639 Okay, Dre is in North Carolina, what's up? Dre Hey, guys, 1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:56.240 you'll hear me. 1:44:56.479 --> 1:44:59.400 Yes, So I was just calling. 1:44:59.439 --> 1:45:00.799 I don't want to her to show. 1:45:00.600 --> 1:45:02.559 How it ends, but I was just talking about if 1:45:02.560 --> 1:45:04.679 we sit with the fourth pig, which. 1:45:04.439 --> 1:45:06.519 I'll want to possibly trade up to try and get 1:45:06.520 --> 1:45:09.320 a quarterback, or y'all just with any where y'all are, 1:45:09.800 --> 1:45:11.280 I'll take it off. I appreciate y'all. 1:45:11.400 --> 1:45:14.519 Thanks raight. So I all with with with trading up. 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:16.479 It's always the same conversation with like what are you 1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:17.280 giving up? Right? 1:45:17.400 --> 1:45:18.559 Right? And what are you giving up? 1:45:18.600 --> 1:45:18.800 And who? 1:45:19.000 --> 1:45:20.040 Like do you believe that guy? 1:45:20.120 --> 1:45:24.280 Yeah? Right? My concern and I'm kind of just from 1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:28.160 a because those details are hard to iron out, especially 1:45:28.160 --> 1:45:30.080 on December twenty eight, is like maybe once we get 1:45:30.080 --> 1:45:35.519 closer it will be easier. I have reservations about trading 1:45:35.600 --> 1:45:37.840 up because I think that you're you need a lot 1:45:37.840 --> 1:45:40.680 of pieces on this roster, and if you're starting to 1:45:40.720 --> 1:45:42.680 give up like a King's ransom to move up in 1:45:42.720 --> 1:45:46.120 the draft to take the quarterback. Yes, ideally he's Andrew 1:45:46.160 --> 1:45:47.960 Luck and he and he makes you an eleven win 1:45:48.000 --> 1:45:49.960 team coming out, you know, rolling out of bed just 1:45:50.000 --> 1:45:52.679 because you have the quarterback. But at the same time, 1:45:53.520 --> 1:45:56.320 I look at the Carolina Panthers and I I I 1:45:56.840 --> 1:45:58.559 that's I am fearful of that. 1:45:58.680 --> 1:45:59.960 The Panthers gave up too much. 1:46:00.120 --> 1:46:01.760 So the Panthers game up a time because they went 1:46:01.800 --> 1:46:03.080 all the way from eight to one. 1:46:03.040 --> 1:46:06.280 Right, So that's part of it. Like we're I move 1:46:06.680 --> 1:46:08.720 if it's differ between getting Jane Daniels, I move up 1:46:08.760 --> 1:46:11.840 from four to three, because you're talking about probably two 1:46:11.880 --> 1:46:14.200 third round picks to get from four to three. Like 1:46:14.280 --> 1:46:16.360 that's fine. I'm not moving up from four to one. 1:46:16.400 --> 1:46:17.800 I don't think they need of ford to one. I'm 1:46:17.800 --> 1:46:19.439 not moving up for four to one. I'll go like 1:46:19.479 --> 1:46:21.200 four to three, five to three if it means getting 1:46:21.240 --> 1:46:24.639 Jade Daniels. But yeah, I'm not doing the Panthers package 1:46:24.640 --> 1:46:25.439 because that was just stupid. 1:46:25.680 --> 1:46:29.760 Right, And now you're in a position where you're kind 1:46:29.800 --> 1:46:31.880 of fifty to fifty on Bryce Young. I would say 1:46:31.920 --> 1:46:34.040 after his rookie year, I'm still not out on Bryce Young. 1:46:34.080 --> 1:46:36.040 I think that like he still has a chance to 1:46:36.080 --> 1:46:38.680 be good. But you're you're a little bit concerned. You 1:46:38.720 --> 1:46:39.760 have to admit, like if you're a parent. 1:46:40.080 --> 1:46:42.400 So I think the thing to remember too, And this 1:46:42.479 --> 1:46:45.240 is also part of the reason why to people who say, 1:46:45.400 --> 1:46:47.559 draft Marvin Harrison, draft to tackle, like, build it all 1:46:47.640 --> 1:46:49.799 up and you'll go get the quarterback next year. Yeah, 1:46:50.080 --> 1:46:54.160 that scares the crap out of me because there are 1:46:56.000 --> 1:46:58.120 the way talent's being turned down college. There's gonna be 1:46:58.160 --> 1:47:00.880 good wide receivers every year. There's gonna be good legit 1:47:01.160 --> 1:47:03.200 wiers you were telling every year tackle. Some of the 1:47:03.240 --> 1:47:05.760 class have been thin, but generally you have two or 1:47:05.760 --> 1:47:07.200 three guys at the top of the board that are 1:47:07.240 --> 1:47:11.040 pretty good. You're not guaranteed to have a legitimate quarterback 1:47:11.040 --> 1:47:13.519 class every year next year unless you're gonna get one 1:47:13.560 --> 1:47:15.080 one and we want to go through another season like 1:47:15.120 --> 1:47:18.519 we just did. Yeah, and get your Sanders ooh next year? Scary? 1:47:18.720 --> 1:47:21.160 Next year? Is scare Reka? 1:47:21.520 --> 1:47:23.360 Well maybe maybe Quen yours. 1:47:23.400 --> 1:47:25.400 Maybe all right, So that's two guys, so you've got 1:47:25.400 --> 1:47:27.160 to have a top three pick again. So you're right 1:47:27.200 --> 1:47:28.760 where you are. Now, why not just take the guy? 1:47:28.840 --> 1:47:31.559 Now you look at last year's last year's class, right, 1:47:32.600 --> 1:47:35.040 Bailey's happy might be the second best quarterback in that class. 1:47:35.080 --> 1:47:37.960 I mean Brock, right, that's what I'm talking about. Brock 1:47:38.000 --> 1:47:41.680 parties number one, obviously, but he was the when you 1:47:41.720 --> 1:47:43.599 have the offense that the Niners have, you can take 1:47:43.600 --> 1:47:45.559 your quarterback in the seventh round. Show me when the 1:47:45.560 --> 1:47:47.599 Patriots have that offense and I'll say, okay, they can 1:47:47.600 --> 1:47:48.960 wait till Saturday. Quarterback. 1:47:49.080 --> 1:47:52.559 I worry about being the Panthers. And so that's the 1:47:52.560 --> 1:47:56.120 Panthers is like, now they have no assets to add 1:47:56.160 --> 1:47:59.000 their Brice Young because they traded them all for Bryce Young, 1:47:59.280 --> 1:48:01.120 and now they have a t that has no talent. 1:48:01.200 --> 1:48:02.519 They have no first round pick. 1:48:03.280 --> 1:48:05.880 I think it runs deeper in that because at the 1:48:05.960 --> 1:48:09.040 time people said the Chiefs gave up too much to 1:48:09.040 --> 1:48:11.360 get Patrick Mahomes to move up to get Patrick Mahomes. 1:48:11.640 --> 1:48:14.120 Nobody talks about that anymore, well, nor should they. So 1:48:14.240 --> 1:48:16.840 my point is the decision to move up is only 1:48:16.840 --> 1:48:18.160 as good as the player. And this is what I 1:48:18.160 --> 1:48:21.280 was getting to. Albert Breer had this report last week 1:48:21.280 --> 1:48:23.320 on the Sports Up that yeah, he talked to some 1:48:23.479 --> 1:48:25.640 gms and basically, since twenty twenty one, put all the 1:48:25.720 --> 1:48:28.400 quarterbacks in the same class, who goes where? And he 1:48:28.479 --> 1:48:31.000 said Trevor Lawrence still goes one one, which I think 1:48:31.040 --> 1:48:34.880 is true. Caleb Williams goes second, Drake Mago's third above 1:48:34.960 --> 1:48:37.559 like ahead of c J. Stroud as prospects, ahead of 1:48:37.560 --> 1:48:39.479 c J. Stroud, ahead of Bryce Young, ahead of Kenny Pick, 1:48:39.479 --> 1:48:42.000 ahead of all the name. Caleb Williams goes one, No, no, no, 1:48:41.960 --> 1:48:44.120 Trevor Lawrence goes one. Oh, we're going all the way 1:48:44.120 --> 1:48:46.080 back to twenty one to twenty one, So Trevor Lawrence 1:48:46.080 --> 1:48:49.479 goes one. Yeah, Caleb Williams goes two. Drake Mago's three. 1:48:49.800 --> 1:48:55.439 I think it's probably between Jade and Daniels and Justin 1:48:55.479 --> 1:48:58.760 Fields for four. So the point being, okay. 1:48:59.040 --> 1:49:08.080 I would never no, no, who I would probably Caleb, Trevor, Caleb, 1:49:08.479 --> 1:49:10.639 Drake May, and who's the fourth guy? So that's where 1:49:10.800 --> 1:49:13.439 I would probably I would probably put CJ straight ahead 1:49:13.439 --> 1:49:13.920 of Drake May. 1:49:14.000 --> 1:49:18.320 Okay, Well, so all right, let me the point basically being, right, 1:49:19.120 --> 1:49:23.719 the Jaden Daniels is going to be the third quarterback 1:49:23.720 --> 1:49:27.679 in this draft next year. He's won one, no question right, right, 1:49:27.960 --> 1:49:30.719 So you have a chance to get a better quarterback 1:49:30.760 --> 1:49:33.439 now than you're going to next year. So just take 1:49:33.560 --> 1:49:36.360 like there's going to be Joe Altz in next year's class. 1:49:36.360 --> 1:49:38.080 Maybe there's not a Marvin Harrison, but there's gonna be 1:49:38.240 --> 1:49:40.920 roma Dune Day Milik neighbor. Next year's wide receiver class 1:49:40.960 --> 1:49:42.439 looks might be better in this one. 1:49:42.479 --> 1:49:43.840 You know, I hate when you beat this, I know it. 1:49:43.920 --> 1:49:47.680 But but what next year's wide receiver class is unstoppable, 1:49:47.720 --> 1:49:49.400 then all of them end up stinking in the foot. 1:49:49.439 --> 1:49:52.559 But but here's my point. Here's my point. Quarterback has 1:49:52.600 --> 1:49:55.960 more variance than any quarterback has. If you can get 1:49:55.960 --> 1:49:58.320 the guy, you get the guy. Because next year's quarterback, 1:49:58.760 --> 1:50:01.599 there's always one last year's wide receiver classman and normally 1:50:01.640 --> 1:50:03.599 there's always one or two blue chip wide receivers. There's 1:50:03.600 --> 1:50:05.559 always one or two blue chip tackles. Okay, you're not 1:50:05.600 --> 1:50:06.880 guaranteed a blue chip quarterback. 1:50:06.880 --> 1:50:09.599 I'm going to just segue into this for you because 1:50:09.760 --> 1:50:11.879 you asked me to bring up the college football playoff 1:50:12.520 --> 1:50:14.960 really quickly. Though, Before we get to the college football playoff, 1:50:15.320 --> 1:50:17.599 we haven't talked about the Bills or this Bills game 1:50:17.800 --> 1:50:20.439 for even one second, which sucks because the Bills are 1:50:20.479 --> 1:50:23.240 bad two minutes on this Yeah, what are you looking 1:50:23.280 --> 1:50:25.280 for out of this game? And like, if you really 1:50:25.320 --> 1:50:27.400 want to take your victory lap on the Bills who 1:50:27.479 --> 1:50:29.280 won three straight and four out of their last five, 1:50:29.600 --> 1:50:30.520 and nobody. 1:50:30.439 --> 1:50:32.519 They barely beat the Chargers and. 1:50:32.960 --> 1:50:34.920 Nobody wants to play them in the playoffs. 1:50:35.479 --> 1:50:37.200 They won't be there. Now they're gonna be there. They're 1:50:37.200 --> 1:50:37.880 gonna win the division. 1:50:38.680 --> 1:50:41.360 I I don't want the Bills to win the super Bowl. 1:50:41.360 --> 1:50:43.280 I don't they're going to win the division, but I 1:50:43.280 --> 1:50:44.920 do kind of hope the Bills win a few playoff 1:50:44.960 --> 1:50:48.799 games just to irk you. Yeah, just a pissy the division? 1:50:48.880 --> 1:50:50.200 What are you looking for on Sunday? 1:50:51.600 --> 1:50:53.679 So I want to see, you know, Barmore versus Josh 1:50:53.720 --> 1:50:56.439 Allen's a great matchup. Like, you know, he's kind of 1:50:56.439 --> 1:50:59.280 looking like do the Patriots ever freak to counter the freak? Right, 1:50:59.400 --> 1:51:02.360 that kind of thing. I want to see bar More 1:51:02.600 --> 1:51:05.080 against Josh Allen. I think that'll be a super fun matchup. 1:51:06.600 --> 1:51:09.000 And then just I think in the last game the 1:51:09.040 --> 1:51:11.000 defense played well, but they got off the hook because 1:51:11.040 --> 1:51:12.880 the Bills are kind of dropping some passes and things 1:51:12.920 --> 1:51:15.120 like that. I so a big part of the Bill's 1:51:15.120 --> 1:51:16.960 resurgence has been they've taken the ball out of Josh 1:51:17.000 --> 1:51:19.240 Allen's hands. They run the ball. You know, who would 1:51:19.280 --> 1:51:20.040 have thought that would improve? 1:51:20.320 --> 1:51:22.640 So there are more balanced and there's less pressure on 1:51:22.760 --> 1:51:24.839 him to be Superman and he's playing better. 1:51:24.720 --> 1:51:27.040 Well because he's not Superman. They were asking him to 1:51:27.040 --> 1:51:28.320 do more than he could do because he's not as 1:51:28.360 --> 1:51:30.000 good as so many people thought he was. No, the 1:51:30.040 --> 1:51:31.759 whole point, that's the whole point. 1:51:31.800 --> 1:51:33.960 The point is that nobody if he told her all 1:51:34.000 --> 1:51:34.680 that he had to be. 1:51:34.640 --> 1:51:36.439 There, all right, But I was being told that he could. 1:51:36.479 --> 1:51:38.799 I had to run around. I was I was told, 1:51:39.120 --> 1:51:40.880 I was told, you run the offense like that when 1:51:40.880 --> 1:51:42.720 you have a guy like Josh Allen because he's that good. 1:51:42.840 --> 1:51:44.479 Oh my god, he wasn't. Oh my god. 1:51:44.560 --> 1:51:47.280 Who they put they had their offense with Ken Dorsey 1:51:47.800 --> 1:51:50.400 was vanilla, it was stale they had they used no. 1:51:50.880 --> 1:51:53.240 I was told, I was they had to put the 1:51:53.240 --> 1:51:54.840 ball in Josh Allen's hands that much because he was 1:51:54.840 --> 1:51:56.040 that good, and they had to take advance. 1:51:56.200 --> 1:51:58.200 So like, it's not it's not like they're running ball 1:51:58.240 --> 1:51:59.240 seventy five percent of the time. 1:51:59.400 --> 1:52:01.800 They're running in lot more. I think the Patriots neutralize that. 1:52:01.920 --> 1:52:03.479 So I think the game is put back in Josh 1:52:03.520 --> 1:52:05.000 Allen's hands to win. I think is gonna be the 1:52:05.000 --> 1:52:06.759 first time in a few weeks we see Josh Allen 1:52:07.080 --> 1:52:09.320 really have to go out and single handedly win the game. Again. 1:52:10.080 --> 1:52:12.719 That's to me is as much as like the Bailey's 1:52:12.720 --> 1:52:15.360 apt of it all is still there. I think to me, 1:52:16.160 --> 1:52:19.439 the one thing that's gonna be consistent is that which 1:52:19.520 --> 1:52:21.679 whoever's that quarterback next year for the Patriots is gonna 1:52:21.720 --> 1:52:23.400 have to be Josh Allen, Right, Like you're gonna have 1:52:23.439 --> 1:52:26.040 the division. I still think even though the Dolphins are 1:52:26.240 --> 1:52:29.240 are gonna probably win the division this year, Buffalo is 1:52:29.280 --> 1:52:31.680 still going to be a team that they're gonna have 1:52:31.720 --> 1:52:33.599 to beat get to make it back to the Promised 1:52:33.680 --> 1:52:38.479 Land for some reason. And I still feel like Bill 1:52:38.680 --> 1:52:41.360 versus Josh Allen and they had a really good plan 1:52:41.479 --> 1:52:43.559 I thought the first time around against him, to blitz 1:52:43.640 --> 1:52:45.360 him and come after him a little bit more and 1:52:46.000 --> 1:52:48.679 speed him up and make him play out of control 1:52:48.760 --> 1:52:51.400 and things like that, Like do they have that in 1:52:51.479 --> 1:52:54.200 them again? Because if Bill can still find some some 1:52:54.320 --> 1:52:58.400 kryptonite to Superman, he doesn't solve the Dolphins offense, so 1:52:58.479 --> 1:53:01.880 that that's a whole separate But if he can solve 1:53:02.040 --> 1:53:05.639 Josh Allen, and they have like two good game plans 1:53:05.680 --> 1:53:09.439 and could two good defensive performances. Whether it's Bill, whether 1:53:09.479 --> 1:53:11.800 it's Girod, like whoever is in charge next year of 1:53:11.840 --> 1:53:14.759 the defense, I think that that that's a really big 1:53:14.800 --> 1:53:16.920 thing for this team moving forward if they can still. 1:53:16.920 --> 1:53:19.200 So that's that's kind of a lot of it's on 1:53:19.280 --> 1:53:21.719 Josh Allen, honestly, like how does he in the offense 1:53:21.800 --> 1:53:24.200 respond to kind of getting knocked around by building that 1:53:24.240 --> 1:53:25.320 defense in the first game? 1:53:25.720 --> 1:53:27.320 Do they do some different things? 1:53:27.320 --> 1:53:29.000 And obviously they will have a new offense coordinator, but 1:53:29.080 --> 1:53:30.960 like what does that look like to counter? And then 1:53:30.960 --> 1:53:32.880 I mean it's pretty much all with the papers events, 1:53:32.880 --> 1:53:35.800 but on offense, just like Bailey's appis continued development. Yeah, 1:53:35.960 --> 1:53:36.559 that kind of thing. 1:53:36.640 --> 1:53:39.920 Yeah, I'm just looking forward to seeing what they do 1:53:39.960 --> 1:53:43.599 this time around defensively against Allen, because they they went 1:53:43.800 --> 1:53:47.160 for about two years there they were all coverage game plan, right, like, 1:53:47.200 --> 1:53:49.360 they we're gonna drop seven eight guys in coverage and 1:53:49.400 --> 1:53:52.200 we're gonna make him sit in the pocket and beat us, 1:53:52.280 --> 1:53:54.559 you know, throwing the ball, and we're not gonna let 1:53:54.680 --> 1:53:58.439 him play playground football. But the problem was is that 1:53:58.439 --> 1:54:00.200 they weren't getting any pressure on him and he was 1:54:00.240 --> 1:54:02.880 just standing there making throws and that's not good either. 1:54:03.160 --> 1:54:05.519 So this time they kind of split the atom a 1:54:05.560 --> 1:54:07.240 little bit and we're able to come after him but 1:54:07.360 --> 1:54:10.680 contain pressure. And I thought that, you know, they did 1:54:10.920 --> 1:54:13.840 a really good job in week seven of defending him. 1:54:13.840 --> 1:54:16.160 Now they made some plays and Buffalo ended up making 1:54:16.200 --> 1:54:18.559 some plays late, especially in that fourth quarter when they 1:54:18.600 --> 1:54:21.320 came back, But in general, I thought that they that 1:54:21.479 --> 1:54:24.360 was their best game plan against Josh Allen since he's 1:54:24.400 --> 1:54:27.120 turned into Josh Allen, like you know, not talking about 1:54:27.160 --> 1:54:30.080 like his rookie year or something like that. So that 1:54:30.080 --> 1:54:34.240 that was. That's the Bills College football playoff. You have 1:54:34.480 --> 1:54:36.640 like four minutes, so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna 1:54:36.680 --> 1:54:37.240 give you all right. 1:54:37.280 --> 1:54:40.959 My picks are Alabama and Washington, okay, and then Alabama 1:54:41.000 --> 1:54:43.840 in the in the championship. Yeah, although I think I 1:54:43.840 --> 1:54:47.560 think Alabama winning it all. Yes, I think Alabama rolls Michigan. 1:54:47.600 --> 1:54:49.560 I think J. J. McCarthy gets exposed in that game. 1:54:49.640 --> 1:54:50.560 Yeah, kind of. 1:54:50.920 --> 1:54:52.880 You can't run the ball in Alabama like they have 1:54:52.920 --> 1:54:55.560 on other teams. They can't be that reliant. I think 1:54:55.640 --> 1:54:58.000 Washington and Texas probably score one hundred combined points, maybe 1:54:58.040 --> 1:55:00.800 a hunter ten. I just I think Michael Pennick's got 1:55:00.800 --> 1:55:03.240 that dog in him right, he goes he makes the 1:55:03.320 --> 1:55:06.160 last play. But yeah, Alabama is Alabama, man, and that's 1:55:06.160 --> 1:55:08.120 a different that's a different animal. I'm just gonna give 1:55:08.160 --> 1:55:10.160 you some names. I want you to watch, because you're 1:55:10.160 --> 1:55:11.400 gonna watch. I hope you watch the games. 1:55:11.480 --> 1:55:13.400 Right, Yeah, the second one's kind of late, like, what 1:55:13.400 --> 1:55:17.120 are we doing this? It's eight thirty, it's eight forty five. Grow, 1:55:17.280 --> 1:55:19.520 that's gonna work the next that's the better game. That's 1:55:19.560 --> 1:55:23.280 that's I know, I know, that's why. What are we doing? 1:55:23.360 --> 1:55:26.840 Alabama starting right tackle jac Latham. He's been their start 1:55:26.880 --> 1:55:29.920 in the last two years. Six six, three sixty, you know, 1:55:30.120 --> 1:55:32.560 just quickly, Okay. It reminds me. Reminds me a lot 1:55:32.600 --> 1:55:34.920 of Trent Brown, just like a big, physical Maler kind 1:55:34.960 --> 1:55:36.760 of a weird range for the Patriots. He expected to 1:55:36.760 --> 1:55:38.480 go between ten and fifteen, so they'd have to make 1:55:38.480 --> 1:55:42.280 a trade. Jermaine Burton's a really good deep threat wide 1:55:42.280 --> 1:55:45.080 receive for Alabama. I like him. Malach Hi Moore is 1:55:45.200 --> 1:55:48.080 Alabama's He's a defensive back. He stepped into that. Brian Brantrell. 1:55:48.120 --> 1:55:50.200 He does a little bit of everything. Would be a 1:55:50.200 --> 1:55:53.200 classic Belichick pick. We talked about JJ McCarthy. Neither of 1:55:53.240 --> 1:55:56.080 us believe in him. These Michigan running backs Man Blake 1:55:56.120 --> 1:55:58.680 corm Donovan Edwards, they're gonna be in the spotlight. The 1:55:58.720 --> 1:56:01.680 Patriot's gonna need a running back. Please early Day three guys, 1:56:01.920 --> 1:56:08.280 please Roman Wilson. He's a weird player jump ball six 1:56:08.280 --> 1:56:11.520 foot jump ball receiver, but he can do it. He's 1:56:11.600 --> 1:56:13.760 really good at the catch point after the catch, and 1:56:13.800 --> 1:56:15.480 he needs to be better before the catch. That's kind of 1:56:15.480 --> 1:56:18.560 my book on him. Really fun player here, Mike Saanner. 1:56:18.600 --> 1:56:20.080 Still I don't know. You might have heard about him 1:56:20.080 --> 1:56:25.240 a little bit. Defensive back for Michigan, Everett Highgrad, Massachusetts 1:56:25.280 --> 1:56:29.520 Gatorade High School Football the year. Spent three years as 1:56:29.840 --> 1:56:31.960 you need to go. Spend three years of wide receiver 1:56:32.000 --> 1:56:34.480 at Michigan. Moved to defensive back two years ago. Plays 1:56:34.840 --> 1:56:40.200 like everywhere. Okay, he's very good. You know, Xavier Worthy, 1:56:40.200 --> 1:56:43.840 you like him, Ady Mitchell, Jatavian Sanders another tackle on 1:56:43.920 --> 1:56:46.560 this for Texas. Christian Jones gonna be facing NFL talent 1:56:46.600 --> 1:56:49.600 from Washington. He's like Tier two J C. Latham, that 1:56:49.720 --> 1:56:51.080 kind of thing that we do right like or he 1:56:51.160 --> 1:56:53.640 might be Day three and then on Washington. You know, 1:56:53.680 --> 1:56:55.880 I like Roma Dune's a Dylan Johnson another running back 1:56:55.920 --> 1:56:59.560 to watch. Fatanu's in that late first early second round. 1:56:59.560 --> 1:57:03.080 Alabam Uh Washington's left tackle, three year starter. 1:57:03.200 --> 1:57:03.720 He's interesting. 1:57:03.760 --> 1:57:05.040 He'll be at Senier Bol We'll see him. 1:57:05.080 --> 1:57:05.760 Yeah, he's interesting. 1:57:05.840 --> 1:57:09.840 Jabbar Muhammed, Washington's outside corner, three year starter. Really good 1:57:09.960 --> 1:57:10.520 man coverage. 1:57:10.600 --> 1:57:12.000 Yeah, he played some good coverage against you. 1:57:12.160 --> 1:57:13.880 Five foot ten, might have to move in a slot 1:57:13.880 --> 1:57:17.080 in the NFL. Reminds me a ton Evan of Miles Bryant. 1:57:17.280 --> 1:57:20.720 So and he's a well five to ten. Yeah, Shrin's 1:57:20.760 --> 1:57:24.280 like five nine. It's an itch uh projected Miles Bryant's 1:57:24.320 --> 1:57:27.800 five to nine with projected late day three pick or udfa. 1:57:27.880 --> 1:57:29.680 Maybe that goes up with a good performance against these 1:57:29.720 --> 1:57:32.520 Texas wide receivers. But screams Patriots, I have a full 1:57:32.560 --> 1:57:34.000 list on ninety eight five to sport. 1:57:34.040 --> 1:57:36.360 You can read that really quickly from me on this 1:57:36.480 --> 1:57:39.840 because you know I'm just watching for a watching sake. 1:57:40.720 --> 1:57:42.959 Are we sure quin Yours isn't coming out? 1:57:43.200 --> 1:57:45.400 That's the thing I think it. The playoff determines it 1:57:45.480 --> 1:57:47.080 if he if he's going to be a first round pick. 1:57:47.080 --> 1:57:49.280 Will come out. He needs to basically have a big 1:57:49.320 --> 1:57:51.440 game against If he has a big game against Alabama 1:57:51.520 --> 1:57:53.760 or Michigan, he's going to be a first round pick. 1:57:53.920 --> 1:57:57.240 So that's what this will decide that. So I am intrigued, 1:57:57.960 --> 1:58:00.000 just intrigued. I'm not I'm not all in yet. I'm 1:58:00.240 --> 1:58:03.760 intrigued because I think that there's a chance that he's 1:58:03.880 --> 1:58:08.040 like the perfect Okay, you missed out on Callabillas, Drake May. 1:58:08.040 --> 1:58:10.320 You're not totally sold on Jaden Daniels, but you can 1:58:10.360 --> 1:58:12.440 get a guy like Quinn you Weers maybe by like 1:58:12.520 --> 1:58:15.640 slightly trading up into the first back into the first round, 1:58:16.160 --> 1:58:18.880 and he doesn't have the injury history that Pennis does. 1:58:19.440 --> 1:58:21.720 I just feel like that's one of those guys that 1:58:22.280 --> 1:58:25.320 might be like the perfect consolation price. 1:58:25.840 --> 1:58:28.760 He's gonna talk to teams at like unofficially right, he's 1:58:28.800 --> 1:58:31.440 gonna he's his people will do their research after the 1:58:31.480 --> 1:58:34.240 playoff and basically find out if he's gonna be a 1:58:34.280 --> 1:58:36.880 first round pick. It's enough teams base If he years 1:58:36.920 --> 1:58:38.880 back for enough teams that like, yeah, we like you 1:58:38.920 --> 1:58:41.440 in the first round, he'll declare. If not, he won't 1:58:41.440 --> 1:58:42.960 because he'll be a first round pick. Next year, and 1:58:42.960 --> 1:58:44.400 he's got plenty of nil money. 1:58:44.200 --> 1:58:47.440 At text exciting prospect. All right, that's gonna do it. First, 1:58:47.600 --> 1:58:49.080 Rodney Harrison should be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, 1:58:49.120 --> 1:58:50.640 Rodney Harrison should be in the Hall of Fame. We 1:58:50.680 --> 1:58:52.320 didn't have time for that. I'm sure we'll talk about 1:58:52.320 --> 1:58:55.160 that on PU which starts here in a couple of minutes, 1:58:55.200 --> 1:58:57.720 So don't go anywhere. Alex and I will be back 1:58:57.800 --> 1:59:02.040 next week. Uh weeen hard to believe. But we'll talk 1:59:02.080 --> 1:59:04.520 about the lan offseason. Then the fun really begins. Yeah, 1:59:04.520 --> 1:59:06.200 then the fun really begins. We'll talk about the last 1:59:06.240 --> 1:59:08.720 week of the season. We'll talk about the college football playoff. 1:59:09.240 --> 1:59:11.440 So keep it right here, Patriots Catch twenty two, and 1:59:11.480 --> 1:59:12.400 we'll see you all then. 1:59:13.280 --> 1:59:17.120 Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 1:59:17.160 --> 1:59:20.200 and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate 1:59:20.280 --> 1:59:23.400 and review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us 1:59:23.440 --> 1:59:26.640 high on the podcast rankings so new listeners can find us. 1:59:26.760 --> 1:59:29.839 Be sure to check Patriots dot com for more news 1:59:29.880 --> 1:59:31.240 and more podcasts.