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Speaker 1: Happy Latino Heritage Month, Mama.

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Speaker 2: Happy Latino Heritage Month. And thank god I've hatched.

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Speaker 3: I exist now you're reborn.

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Speaker 2: All year, Latinos are just just like just stating in

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Speaker 2: our little eggs, just waiting for LATINX Heritage Month to

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Speaker 2: come around so you can poke our.

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Speaker 3: Little heads out and exist as full human beings.

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Speaker 1: And what a time to be a Latino in this country.

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Speaker 3: Oh what a time indeed to be a Latin.

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Speaker 1: To be a person of Latin American heritage. It's quite

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Speaker 1: a doozy these days.

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Speaker 2: It's quite a doozy because I feel like we see

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Speaker 2: some real good news here and there, you know, friends,

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Speaker 2: community members having big wins in their own lives. I

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Speaker 2: think that we have our own individual excitement going on.

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Speaker 2: But then we open the curtains and look out the

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Speaker 2: window and it's like fire and brimstone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: It's a good time to also consider how we preserve

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Speaker 1: our culture and resist. And I think as much as

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Speaker 1: we want to poke fun of like Latino Heritage Month,

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Speaker 1: because yes we're Latino three hundred and sixty five days,

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Speaker 1: it's a good it's a good reason to remember, commemorate,

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Speaker 1: like our history in this country. And I think that

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Speaker 1: that's that's part of the point, right, even though brands

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Speaker 1: try to pretend we don't exist the other eleven months

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Speaker 1: of the.

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Speaker 3: Year until it's time for our dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then give me gimme.

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Speaker 1: Or one point six trillion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Hand it over come spend and we do, and we

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Speaker 2: do every time. Take it.

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Speaker 3: Take our money. We love to give it away.

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Speaker 1: Please give it, Give it to your Give it back

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Speaker 1: to your community, y'all. Give it back instead of the corporations.

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Speaker 2: Yes, give it back to your community. Give it back

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Speaker 2: to your friends and family who have lent you money.

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Speaker 2: Give it to the people that you owe it to.

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Speaker 2: For you you buy things at a huge corporation. That's

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Speaker 2: my tip for Hispanic marriage month. Pay your debts.

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Speaker 1: Love that tip already, yo oh la. I'm the Osa

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Speaker 1: and I'm Mala. Today we are discussing a topic near

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Speaker 1: and dear to our hearts for a myriad of reasons,

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Speaker 1: and that is the funding and defunding of libraries. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you all knew this, listeners, but

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Speaker 2: apparently public libraries can be shut down. I honestly didn't

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Speaker 2: like the post office. They're just these immortal institutions that

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Speaker 2: But apparently libraries, library branches can be shut down, which

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Speaker 2: to me is shocking. I we had this revelation this

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Speaker 2: summer when we were doing a free book giveaway that

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Speaker 2: we want to do a book giveaway for our vintage

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Speaker 2: and our listeners came through and picked a number of

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Franklin Library branch was shut down at one point.

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Speaker 2: I think now we've learned it was for repairs and renovations,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, to my understanding, part of the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think that we all have our own

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Speaker 2: You spend the day at the library and pick up

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Speaker 2: we've hosted a bunch of podcasting workshops at different LA

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember being a kid, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: It doesn't cost anything. It's one of the few existing

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Speaker 2: you know. But a library is somewhere that you can

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Speaker 3: You need to go to your local library because that's.

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Speaker 2: I feel like going to the library is kind of

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Speaker 1: And you know, you have to be a library and

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Speaker 1: And so the libraries are very important, not to just us,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think if we take it back, like

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Speaker 1: And to tie it to present day, if we consider

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what so wild, Not that this

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, when we think of libraries as like, you know,

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Speaker 1: To also expand on this idea of book bannings and

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Speaker 1: According to the National Literacy Institute, fifty four percent of

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, I think about too. On I

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Speaker 2: a Scientology like reading center, because you know, Scientology has

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Speaker 1: So bringing it back to Boyle Heights and the Benjamin

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and thinking about how you can volunteer at your

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Speaker 3: It's very cosmopolitan, it is.

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't love a library? Come on, well the Republicans

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Speaker 3: Yes, we love socialism, we do.

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Speaker 1: Unlike knowledge books for everybody, yes, doesn't matter, doesn't matter,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, children are.

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Speaker 2: Just tiny people, and so that there's this whole section

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Speaker 1: When thinking about you know, lack of technology, right there

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Speaker 1: I remember as having a computer, but I we don't

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Speaker 1: you'd have to like pay twenty five cents to print

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Speaker 1: And I just remember that being a core memory, and

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Speaker 1: addition to the church, But that's like another conversation. Definitely,

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Speaker 1: the libraries, they were there. You know, they're always there

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Speaker 2: They're very reliable. They don't go anywhere. Well now, well

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Speaker 2: now they might now they might be going somewhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time at the Alhambra Public

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Speaker 2: I just think you walk into a library and it

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Speaker 2: gives you a sense of comfort and safety. I've never

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Speaker 2: It's like an instant calm.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, save our libraries, both save our libraries, use

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Speaker 1: the resources. The Octavia Lab is a very cool resource

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Speaker 1: that's unique to the Central Library, but there are other places.

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Speaker 1: My local library has like a little podcast studios. It's

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Speaker 1: not as intense and professionalized as the Octavia Lab. But

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Speaker 1: to know that a youth can go and rent a

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Speaker 1: mic and use it you know there, I think is

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Speaker 1: really fantastic. And so that's also something that we talk

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Speaker 1: about in our podcasting courses, like don't go out and

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Speaker 1: local library has a podcast setup, because you can book

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Speaker 1: that for two hours at a time once a week,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's a resource that's for you.

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Speaker 2: It's it's there for you. We do recommend that, and

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Speaker 2: if you would like to take our podcasting course. Check

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Speaker 2: us out, because we are teaching podcasting and we don't

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Speaker 2: we don't like sell equipment to people. No, and we

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Speaker 2: don't encourage people to spend a lot of money. You

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Speaker 2: can make a podcast with what you have at your fingertips,

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Speaker 2: which is your cell phone, which is your cell phone.

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Speaker 3: You can do it your computer if you have one,

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Speaker 3: your local library. Being bing Bob, you got.

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Speaker 2: A podcast done, donezo, We love.

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