WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: One More Time

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<v Speaker 1>Higin everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Dan Hord, and thanks for downloading the Bengals Booth podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The tell Me Tell Me One More Time. Addition, as

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Hubbard joins me to look back at the NFL's

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<v Speaker 2>Play of the Year last year and perhaps the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>play in Bengals history, the Fumble in the Jungle. Then

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Rank from the NFL Network joins me to explain

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<v Speaker 2>why he thinks the Bengals are the best team in

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<v Speaker 2>the league heading into the twenty twenty three season. The

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest thing since the recent Tailor Swift shows at

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<v Speaker 2>pay Corpse Stadium. I attended the first of her two shows,

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<v Speaker 2>and I honestly think that I knew the fewest number

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<v Speaker 2>of the forty four songs she sang of anybody in attendance,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can appreciate a great performer, and the entire

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<v Speaker 2>production was incredible. Furthermore, the unbridled joy she brought to

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<v Speaker 2>her biggest fans was really cool to witness. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there were a couple of young ladies a few rows

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me who started bawling their eyes out

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<v Speaker 2>when Taylor took the stage. Putting on two shows of

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<v Speaker 2>that magnitude is a huge endeavor, and kudos to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>involved with the Bengals and the stadium for pulling it

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<v Speaker 2>off without a hitch I suspect. In the years to come,

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<v Speaker 2>when the biggest summer concert acts think about where they

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<v Speaker 2>should play in the Midwest, Cincinnati and pay Corpse Stadium

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<v Speaker 2>will be high on the list. Now, let's get to football.

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<v Speaker 2>I was recently a guest on Serious XM NFL Radio

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss a very speci if a topic. They were

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<v Speaker 2>doing a show on the top plays of the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two season, and Sam Hubbard's ninety eight yard fumble

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<v Speaker 2>return touchdown and the playoff winner for Baltimore was obviously

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<v Speaker 2>high on the list. They asked me to reminisce about

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<v Speaker 2>the play, and I thought it would be fun on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast to ask Sam Hubbard to do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get to Sam, let's turn the clock back

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<v Speaker 2>to Sunday night, January fifteenth. The Bengals and Ravens are

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<v Speaker 2>tied at seventeen with about twelve and a half minutes

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<v Speaker 2>left in regulation and Baltimore is one yard away from

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<v Speaker 2>a go ahead touchdown. Third down in goal from the

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<v Speaker 2>one Hontley sticks the ball out.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>They are running it back Sam Hubbard with blockers behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>Hubbard of the Ravens forty, the thirty, the twenty, the ten,

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<v Speaker 1>the fun touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals Tyler Hudley try do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Stem the ball over the goal line. It got poked away.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Hubbard scooped it up and ran the length of

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<v Speaker 3>the field for a go ahead Begos touchdown. Logan Wilson

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<v Speaker 3>punched the ball out of the hands of Tyler Huntley and.

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<v Speaker 4>Right into the hands of Sam Hubbard and boy Logan Wilson, others.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody was swarming it at at that football and Sam

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<v Speaker 4>Hubbard says, I'll take it to the house. And boy

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<v Speaker 4>who threw the block for Sam Hubbard down the football

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<v Speaker 4>field his escorts service. One final block was necessary, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was made for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked like he was playing lacrosse and Muller again

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<v Speaker 2>streaking down the field.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you Sam a big man with some wheels.

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<v Speaker 4>He's probably at the oxygen tent right now. That was

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred yards sprint for the big fella.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety eight yards officially for Sam Hubbard. Now the extra

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<v Speaker 2>point from Evan McPherson trying to give Cincinnati a seven

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<v Speaker 2>point lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Crispin put down.

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<v Speaker 2>The kick dead center, perfect, and the Bengals have a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seventeen lead.

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<v Speaker 4>I was begging for a takeaway. The Bengals had turnovers

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<v Speaker 4>in five consecutive fourth quarters. Make it six, and not

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<v Speaker 4>only a turnover, a takeaway touchdown, unconventional score courtesy Sam Hubbard.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the most remarkable defensive plays in Cincinnati Bengals history.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have a timeout with eleven thirty nine left

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<v Speaker 2>in regulation, twenty four seventeen Bengals. That's how we called

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<v Speaker 2>it on the Bengals radio network. Now let's hear the

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<v Speaker 2>TV version, courtesy of my old college buddy Mike Turrico

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<v Speaker 2>on NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>RAT reaches other good day with some Hubbard. The Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Kid Hubbard's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta come by Chase by Andrews with the thirty the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty Hey, well stop. I thought Mike's inclusion of the

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati kid in the middle of that call was sensational,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was one of the things I discussed with

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Hubbard. Before we get to that, we remind you

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<v Speaker 2>without further ado, my recent conversation about the play with

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Hubbard. All right, let's turn the clock back seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>all twelve minutes to go in the fourth quarter, third

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<v Speaker 2>and goal from the one. Described what happened in as

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<v Speaker 2>much detail as you can.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was a fourteen play drive, so we're all

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<v Speaker 5>pretty gassed down in the one yard line, kind of

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<v Speaker 5>backs against the wall. The quarterback decided to try and

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<v Speaker 5>go over the top of the pile, and a quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>sneak in logan Wilson and Jermain Pratt punch a bo

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<v Speaker 5>all out landed in my hands and had enough gas

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<v Speaker 5>to get the end zone and ended up winning the

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<v Speaker 5>game for us.

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<v Speaker 2>You glanced back a couple of times early. It looked

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<v Speaker 2>like you looked at the video board in the midst

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<v Speaker 2>of the run. Did you have a sense of what

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<v Speaker 2>was behind you?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of was backwards on the jumbo tron, so

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<v Speaker 5>I swerved the wrong way because it's backwards.

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<v Speaker 6>But I had some blockers with me. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 6>all blur.

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<v Speaker 5>I just am glad that I didn't get tripped up

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<v Speaker 5>on the ten yard line.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Andrews looked like you say, bolt as he tried

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<v Speaker 2>to run you down. He dove at your feet around

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty You stumbled ever so slightly. Did he get

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of your shoe?

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<v Speaker 6>I think I was just trying to pick my feet up.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, usually I'm on the other end of that,

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<v Speaker 5>trying to take out the runner's ankles. But uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I just know that you've picked your feet up. Keep him,

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<v Speaker 5>keep them chopping, and you're gonna You're gonna get in.

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<v Speaker 6>The end zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Bailey came dangerously close to a possible blocking in

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<v Speaker 2>the back hall. Ravens fans obviously think he was guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a topic of discussion when you all look

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<v Speaker 2>back at the tape?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I was a clean blockie, you know he was.

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<v Speaker 5>He turned his back and he was lateral with him,

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, you can't really call that but a

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<v Speaker 5>great effort by Mark.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a hell of a player.

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<v Speaker 5>Be competing against him since college and I got the

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<v Speaker 5>utmost respect for him.

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<v Speaker 2>We've all seen the famous shot of you in the

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<v Speaker 2>oxygen mask. Did you need it? Did you request it?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that come about?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I truly was completely exhausted. I don't think I could

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<v Speaker 5>play anymore of the game. I really emptied the tank

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<v Speaker 5>after that drive straight into that run.

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<v Speaker 6>And I had nothing left.

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<v Speaker 5>But I had some teammates that stepped up for me

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<v Speaker 5>and finished out the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to college with Mike Jerico. I'm sure you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard his famous call of the play where he first

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<v Speaker 2>used the Cincinnati kid. What did you you and your

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<v Speaker 2>family think of that?

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<v Speaker 6>I thought it was perfect.

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<v Speaker 5>A credit to him for doing the research talking to

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<v Speaker 5>Doug Rosfeld before the game. No one might you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just knowing everybody's story and being so invested in the

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<v Speaker 5>game he was calling and really made for a special moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that Jermaine Pratt and Logan Wilson stacked up

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback to lead to the fumble, and the previous play,

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<v Speaker 2>Von Bell makes a great tackle to keep the running

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<v Speaker 2>back out of the end zone. Before the goal to

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<v Speaker 2>go situation, Jesse Bates made a great hustle play to

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<v Speaker 2>knock a guy that bounds around the two yard line.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that whole sequence kind of epitomize what this defense

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<v Speaker 2>is about?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 5>You know we uh, we're gonna fight, fight, scratch and

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<v Speaker 5>claw for every yard and you know, not give him anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they're they're gonna get yards, but yards on

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<v Speaker 5>equal points. And that's kind of our philosophy is. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes down to a red zone, third down,

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<v Speaker 5>goal line, we play our best ball.

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<v Speaker 2>The play was ninety eight yards, you actually covered one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty three. You always do sprints at the

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of practice. Does that cross your mind

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<v Speaker 2>now as you're doing those sprints.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm just getting in shape for the season and

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<v Speaker 5>get myself ready for whatever happens next. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 5>made some big plays at the end of the game

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<v Speaker 5>the last couple of pro seasons, just being in better

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<v Speaker 5>shape than everybody else, and that's something I continue to

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<v Speaker 5>plan on doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the greatest single play in franchise history.

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<v Speaker 2>As a Cincinnati native. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>It means a lot. It's got its place in history,

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<v Speaker 5>and I look forward to continuing to build on that legacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Fumble in the Jungle or the Hubbard yard Dash.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll let the people decide.

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<v Speaker 2>That I'm a fumble in the Jungle guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I like that too, Thanks Sam, Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>this time, Adam Rank from the NFL Network writes a

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<v Speaker 2>state of the Franchise story about all thirty two NFL

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<v Speaker 2>teams for NFL dot Com. He wrote about the teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the AFC North last week and not only picked

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals to win the division, he thinks that Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>is the best team in the NFL. All right, Adam,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the state of the Bengals. Your article

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<v Speaker 2>has this title super Bowl or bust for Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>and company. You are setting the bar very high, which

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<v Speaker 2>we like here in Cincinnati. Share your thoughts on your

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<v Speaker 2>expectations for the Bengals this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that I'm setting the bar high. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys are setting the bar high. I think that over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of seasons, I thought that the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>were the best team in the AFC. Two years ago

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<v Speaker 1>obviously went to the Super Bowl loss a very close

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<v Speaker 1>contest to the La RAI that could have gone either way.

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<v Speaker 1>Last season, of course, things happened. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>allow the Kansas City Chiefs to have extra plays willy nilly,

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<v Speaker 1>like a wait, hold on, it's a doe over, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that stuff since we were kids playing

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<v Speaker 1>on the street. Be like, no, no, no, that's a do over,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do you mean it's a doover? Like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we did it like that is inexcusable. So again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things being what they were, I think that over the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, the Cincinnati Bengals have proven themselves

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<v Speaker 1>that if they are not the best team in the AFC,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certainly top two. And here's here's here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing nobody wants to talk about. They went out and

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<v Speaker 1>they got better. Not only did they get better. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm gonna I don't want to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to use all my my take all my shots here.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like and the whole thing of like keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive coordinator, like you did not get raided on

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<v Speaker 1>the staff, it's insane. Do how are the Bengals so good?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, do you want to hire all

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles guys? You want to hire guys from the Rams? Still,

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<v Speaker 1>like go crazy. The Bengals staff is in tack. They've

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<v Speaker 1>fortified the roster. If I was a Chiefs fan, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be very worried. But they're not because the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>fans are arrogant and.

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<v Speaker 2>They have Patrick Mahomes, which obviously helped. He's fine, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's all right, he's all right. It's not Pat who

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. So I agree that you are not

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<v Speaker 2>setting the bar too high. But on NFL Network, he

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<v Speaker 2>recently went through game by game and looked at the

0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Bengals schedule. You've got them starting thirteen and one, including

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<v Speaker 2>wins over the forty nine ers in San Francisco and

0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the Bills at home. You've got them at fourteen and

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<v Speaker 2>three overall with a win over the Chiefs on New

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<v Speaker 2>Year's Eve, and fourteen and three only because they are

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<v Speaker 2>basically taking the final game of the season off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the playoffs is the number one seed?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they your number one team overall in the entire NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that the Bengals are the best team, not

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<v Speaker 1>only in the AFC, but all of the NFL. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they've gone out there, as I've said, They've

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<v Speaker 1>fortified their team, They've gotten bet are in places where

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<v Speaker 1>they were not as strong. They've kept the coaching staff

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<v Speaker 1>in tact. You talk about Patrick Mahomes. The Bengals have

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, who I feel is on that elite class

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<v Speaker 1>like you have Roman Reigns and you have John Cena.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of them could have a claim to be the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest of their era. I think that both of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys that when their careers are said and done, that

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be like I was better you or better

0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever it is, They're gonna be very equal.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that Joe Burrow has been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do it behind an offensive line that has had some deficiencies.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I look back at this too, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is a long winded answer to a very

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<v Speaker 1>short question, but I go back to the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>about taking Penny Suwel or taking Jamar Chase. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>doing my mock draft with a twist and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take Penny Seol. It makes sense when you

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<v Speaker 1>took the wide receiver Jamar Chase, I wrote in my

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<v Speaker 1>State of the Franchise article that year, is that I

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<v Speaker 1>was in like, I allow you like if you go

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<v Speaker 1>if we go out for pizza, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like the Hawaiian style, and you're gonna like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I want the Buffalo chick and be like, that's also

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<v Speaker 1>a great choice. I'm with you. I agree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt that the Bengals, you know, they've done

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<v Speaker 1>their due diligence. I have a lot of faith in

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<v Speaker 1>what they were doing. It makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, and now it looks like it is

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<v Speaker 1>going to pay off because Jamar Chase is If he's

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<v Speaker 1>not the best wide receiver in the game, maybe justin

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<v Speaker 1>Jefferson's ahead of him. You can make an argument for

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<v Speaker 1>Devonte Adams. Fine, Jamar Chase is a top five wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver and he's been so instrumental in him being there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say this, if you didn't have Jamar Chase,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't go to the Super Bowl two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not in the AFC Championship game. It's as great

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<v Speaker 1>as Penny Stool has been. What does it meant for

0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the Lions. It is not like they didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. So I love everything that they've done and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they are sincerely the best team. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they went to Buffalo and beat that team,

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<v Speaker 1>and again everybody was not giving them for whatever reason,

0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.960
<v Speaker 1>people were not giving the Bengals a chance in that game.

0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.440
<v Speaker 1>They should have gone to Arrowhead and won that game

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And I think that I love everything with

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<v Speaker 1>Burrowhead Patrick who Patrick Who's a little excessive, but Burrowhead

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely apt. The Bengals own that team. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they owned the Bills, They owned the they owned the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>they own all of them. And so you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>the division being very tough is gonna also help them

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<v Speaker 1>because they play good competition all the time. But I

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<v Speaker 1>when I look at the schedule, I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are a better team here, They're a better

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<v Speaker 1>team there. And really the losses are the ones, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, like it's the end of the season, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, you're playing with it. Cleveland game, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who cares that is a Cleveland Who's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach? Then who's who's there? Because Stefanski's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>end up being fired? They have not who's their defensive coordinator?

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Schwartz. Jim Schwartz. Yeah, Jim Schwartz is gonna end

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<v Speaker 1>up being the Browns coach at some point this season.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my that's my hot take, he said. Jim Schwartz

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<v Speaker 1>playing for his job in twenty twenty four, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to eke out a meaningless win over the Bengals in

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<v Speaker 1>Week eighteen. That's that's the kind of thought I put

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<v Speaker 1>into this stuff. I know a lot of people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're crazy, you don't know what you're doing, And you

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<v Speaker 1>could look back at some of the predictions last year

0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.000
<v Speaker 1>and be like, yeah, you're absolutely correct. But sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>do know what I'm talking about, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Schwartz is gonna end up being the coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns this season. That's a bad that's a bad situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I get the Kevin Stefanski wants to win and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to bring in an experienced defensive coordinator to

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<v Speaker 1>help you along. Don't pick it. Don't bring in the

0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.680
<v Speaker 1>guy that has NFL head coaching experience, Like it's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, Like what am I doing? Like Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>has got to constantly be looking over his shoulder because

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn is eventually going to be a head coach

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. Like these guys like okay, like it

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense, Like I get the theory behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, do you really is this really what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do? It is like it's like a sitcom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Zach telling Slater to like take care of

0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Kelly while he's out of town. He's like, oh, now

0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.480
<v Speaker 1>they're dating. When I come to That's exactly what it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like with the Browns. So good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you guys to lose to the Browns

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<v Speaker 1>in Week eighteen. And believe me, I'm not saying the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns are a better team, but circumstances being what they were.

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<v Speaker 1>I look through all this stuff, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very Browns win kind of game for them

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<v Speaker 1>to finish seven and ten and for the Bengals to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for a playoff run.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've got the Bengals beating the Browns, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>in Cleveland in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, let's be realistic. What's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We are chatting with Adam Rank from the NFL Network.

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<v Speaker 2>You can read his state of the franchise articles at

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<v Speaker 2>NFL dot com. You can also follow him on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>at Adam Rank. I don't want to spoil too much

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<v Speaker 2>in your article about the Bengals, but you have the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line listed as a strength. Yeah, it's been a

0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.520
<v Speaker 2>while since any national expert listed the Bengals offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>as a strength. Orlando Brown Junior moved the needle that much, apparently, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that is such a huge deal. Is to

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and land and left tackle that you

0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.679
<v Speaker 1>feel not that the not that you were. It was

0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.879
<v Speaker 1>a detriment last season. But at the same time, like

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.520
<v Speaker 1>having Orlando Brown Junior in there and being able to

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of quell all all the egos. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>have to change position, which I know is not as

0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.359
<v Speaker 1>easy as a lot of people. But it feels like

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and from and you're there, you're you're on the ground,

0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:21.480
<v Speaker 1>so you would know better than me. But from my

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<v Speaker 1>from from my outside view, it feels like everybody's copa setic.

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<v Speaker 1>Now everybody's fine, cooler, calmer, calmer heads prevailed. I think

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of times too, Like it is, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an ego thing, like you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're a left tackle, you want me to play

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle, but like Orlando Brown Junior is pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it makes sense. Sometimes you've got to accommodate some people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that now and even Loyol Collins, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't need to rush back. That's a depth piece

0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.520
<v Speaker 1>now like that before was like we need him to play.

0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Now it's like, okay, yeah, whatever, you could just it's

0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a depth piece. And I think that we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to see that emerge as a strength for the

0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Bengals and now as a long term play. Now you

0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.840
<v Speaker 1>look back at the Jamar Chase draft pick and you're like, Okay,

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:07.840
<v Speaker 1>now it's all working out. We got the one super Bowl,

0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.679
<v Speaker 1>we've been to back to back AFC title games. I

0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>think the Jamar Chase thing has been vindicated. Now your

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.080
<v Speaker 1>offensive line is even better. And if you give Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow more time to throw with what I consider probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best trio of wide receivers in the NFL, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a huge thing, and I as scary as

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because last year Joe Burrow obviously set a

0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:34.080
<v Speaker 1>club record with thirty five touchdown passes. The thing that

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.040
<v Speaker 1>he could be even better, Like he's an ascending player. Still.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as we love Patrick Mahomes and everything, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow is still an ascending player. And I love everything

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<v Speaker 1>about this situation. And I really do feel very comfortable

0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.639
<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals offense moving forward, especially the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>And as far as I know, you can only have

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<v Speaker 2>your appendix taken out once, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, So

0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Joe should be good in Week one this year as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to not himself until about Week.

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<v Speaker 1>Three or four. Yeah, that's that's another thing. That gets

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like overlooked, like people talk about well

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.560
<v Speaker 1>this team had this or we and I was like, uh,

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow had its appendix out in August if I

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<v Speaker 1>if I remember the timeline correcting camp, it was yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, because we were doing that. We had an

0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.000
<v Speaker 1>interview scheduled with him. He was supposed to join us,

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Tom Pillisero and me. He was going to join and

0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I know Ian was there as well, but Ian was

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>leaving to Indianapolis. But Tom and I were going to

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:29.800
<v Speaker 1>interview him. We're gonna get I was so excited of like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, because honestly it was my first time

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.680
<v Speaker 1>being in Cincinnati as an adult. So that was cool.

0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I will say this Renee Paquette, who

0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>is an announcer for ae W. She had tweeted out

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>something that said, Hey, I've heard that Cincinnati is the

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.360
<v Speaker 1>San Diego of the Midwest, and I think I saw

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that painted on a building somewhere and I I'll be

0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the judge of this. As a San Diego expert, I

0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.640
<v Speaker 1>will be and I'm dubious of this. And I show

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.320
<v Speaker 1>up to Cincinnati and I was like, yeah, I get it.

0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I see it. It makes a lot of sense, Like, yeah, oh,

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:09.399
<v Speaker 1>the breweries, the original sam Adams Brewery, the Rhine, I

0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:15.200
<v Speaker 1>believe it guys. The market, but the marketplace where the

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Reds state the Reds Parade Startsley Market. That's Finley Market,

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<v Speaker 1>Binley Market.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at Binley Market and I was walking by

0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and I saw a bunch of people lined up for

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<v Speaker 1>bread and I'm like, I just got in the line

0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and somebody's like, what's good here. I'm like, I don't know,

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but there's a ton of people here, so it can't

0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 1>be terrible. I'm just gonna buy. I'm gonna let my heart.

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, like, just fill my basket up with

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever for twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>Bakery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So I loved everything about it. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the ballpark. It was amazing. But I was most excited

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.080
<v Speaker 1>about talking to Joe Burrow, but unfortunately he did have

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:52.840
<v Speaker 1>his appendix, we didn't get to talk to him. But again,

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 1>he's coming into camp healthy, ready to go. This team

0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and it feels like it's it's very cohesive. Again, the

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:04.160
<v Speaker 1>egos on the offensive line seem to be all squared away.

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>So I love everything that's going on with the Bengals

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:07.680
<v Speaker 1>right now, I hope to get out there again.

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.160
<v Speaker 2>We hope you get back out here because you brought

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 2>good mojo for that training camp visit. So, following up

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 2>on the Pina Sewell Jamar Chase draft, I was one

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent Pina Sewell going into it. I'm glad to

0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:26.960
<v Speaker 2>have been wrong. What I learned is that the value

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:30.639
<v Speaker 2>of a transcendent wide receiver is greater than the value

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<v Speaker 2>of any individual offensive lineman, with the possible exception of

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Munoz in his prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, but you're.

0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Five good offensive linemen. You don't necessarily need the best

0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman in the league. You just can't have really

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 2>bad ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't want to be a debt. You don't

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 1>want it to be a detriment. You don't want it

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 1>to be the worst offensive line. You want to at

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.360
<v Speaker 1>least be a somewhat of a roadblock. And I think

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>it was over exaggerated about how much it was going

0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>to be. Now, obviously you can look back at the

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl and say, well, I mean, you know, Aaron

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Donald was able to play very well, But you're like,

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald's an exceptional player like that, he beats a

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:10.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of good offensive linemen. But I'm with you, like initially,

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like whoever they would have drafted that year, I would

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>have been able to I would have been able to

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>see the process and understand the rationale behind it. Like

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 1>when David Caruso left NYPD Blue to go do movies.

0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 1>You kind of understand what he's talking about. Sometimes it

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.959
<v Speaker 1>works out. Like David Caruso, it didn't work out as

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>well for him, he has to go back to do

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 1>CSI Miami. George Clooney did the same thing. He left

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 1>dr Like, what are you doing. You're losing, You're leaving

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>this television show that he goes out to be the

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 1>kloon dog and then everything's great. So you understand the process.

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh Clooney. By the way, I did not mean I

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.359
<v Speaker 1>was not pandering to the Cincinnati crowd by doing that.

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge George Clooney fan by nature, but of

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>course he's also a famous Bengals fan, and I'm assuming

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a Reds fan too. By the way, That's the one

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>thing that I love about what's happening in Cincinnati. Your

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 1>soccer team. They yet I don't know one loss.

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>They have one loss all year, so great record setting pace.

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>So amazing for them, and then the Red's playing so well.

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I love the Reds are almost my National League team

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 1>because I fell in love with that stadium and fell

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>in love with the crowd last year. And uh, and

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Ellie doing what he's doing like it's cool. And you

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of prospects for the Mariners, who I hate.

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, it seems weird. Somebody's like, somebody hates the Mariners.

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we we in southern California, especially if you're

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>an Angels fan, we hate the Mariners. So I want

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>both of those prospects, or all the prospects you got

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>for Luis Castillo to be All Stars so we can

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>rub that in Seattle's face forever. All right, I love it.

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 2>So there are some question marks on the Bengals roster,

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 2>most notably in the secondary. Three members of the secondary

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 2>that started in THEFC Championship Game last year are no

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>longer around. Jesse Bates, von Bell, Eli Apple, You're not

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>overly concerned about.

0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:00.479
<v Speaker 1>That, correct, I mean I'm somewhat concerned. I think if

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>there is an Achilles heal with this team and you

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>need Dak Siel to step up, you know, And I

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 1>was trying to be as positive as possible. I'm going

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 1>back and forth with the editors and they're like, well,

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>we're not seeing it on tape, and I'm like, yeah,

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but you know what, Like you said, they had great

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>players playing ahead of him, that he wasn't really pressed

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>into action all that much. But listen, he's a first

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>round pick for a reason. And I believe that your

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 1>secondary coach came out and said the same thing. It's like,

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>these guys have ability and at some point you just

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 1>need to roll the dice. And the one thing that

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I really like about the Bengals, and I know that

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I put this in the piece, is that they've never

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>really been a dominant defense, like you know, the eighty

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>six Bears. And I know that I said eighty six Bears,

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the eighty six Bears. Statistically, we're better than the eighty

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>five Bears. I know what I'm talking about. The Ravens

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of the early two thousands. You don't need to be

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that good, especially in the modern NFL, especially when you

0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>get to the playoffs. Now you're going to get into

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.360
<v Speaker 1>these They're gonna be a lot closer than you anticipate.

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, can you make the stops when you

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>need to make the stops. I think we saw that

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.719
<v Speaker 1>last year against Buffalo, and I think Dax actually went

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.400
<v Speaker 1>out there and made a pretty nice play on I

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>believe it was Dawson Knox. He's shown that he can

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>do it at times. So I think that the way

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>that the Bengals play defense, they take the spirit from people.

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.679
<v Speaker 1>They really do. They really do come out there. And

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I felt like in that especially that game against the Bills,

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>like they shook Josh Allen. They have done a really

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>nice job against Patrick Mahomes. You hold him to twenty

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 1>three points. That's a pretty good job. Like, hey, are

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you shutting teams down? Like no, but like the team,

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the NFL doesn't work that way anymore. They've changed the

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>rules so much that you can't have a dominant defense,

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't make sense to have a dominant defense

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>in some In some respects, you gotta be able to

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>score points. The Bengals can do that. You gotta have

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a defense. You have to have a defensive coordinator that

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 1>knows how to shut down people, that knows how to

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>get the most out of the talent around him. I

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>think that all the guys who are leaving, you know,

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Baits and all them, everybody who's leaving. They're good players.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>But I think as long as you keep I'marilla or

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 1>sorry about and and Arumo, I always say that incorrectly.

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>That's why that's why I take the coward's way out

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and say the defensive coordinator Lou Lou Lou is so

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>good as finding way because, like if you think about it,

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 1>two years ago, he really solved the puzzle of stop

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 1>or at least slowing down Patrick Mahomes and really going

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>out there and putting together a plan that can slow

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>him down. Even last year, I know that they ended

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>up winning. You know, that's what happens when you give

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback that good eight downs to get a first

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Then fine, I'm not saying whatever. I don't want to

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 1>get into trouble. I'm still a league employee. So I

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>think that he's done a great job, and so I

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:06.719
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of confidence of that. And you know what,

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Speaker 1>every team is shifting, every team is juggling rosters. I

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>think the Bengals have proven over the last couple of

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>years that they know what they're doing. They've got a

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>great plan, they've got a great process. So I'm going

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>to give them the benefit of the doubt, and I

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to find a way. They're not going

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to be the most dominant defense in the NFL, but

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:25.360
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be able to make the stops when

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>they need to, and that's the most important thing.

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Has Cincinnati Kansas City become the hottest rivalry in the NFL? Oh?

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's so much fun. I know we're probably old

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.360
<v Speaker 1>enough to remember the Cowboys and the forty nine Ers

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>going back and forth in the nineteen nineties. He had

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens and Ravens than Steelers for a couple of years.

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>That was the hot ticket. And there's been some other

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>one San Francisco, Green Bay, things of that nature. But

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that the one thing that is so special

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>about the Chiefs and the Bengals is that they both

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>have marquee quarterbacks. Sometimes you get into these, man it's

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a defensive team against an offensive team, like what is

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Garoppolo versus Aaron Rodgers. It's not quite as sexy

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>as Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes, who arguably are the

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>two best quarterbacks in the NFL. I can't imagine who

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you would rank ahead of them. I'm sure somebody will

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>chime in, not in Cincinnati, somebody somewhere will take up

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a probably Buffalo, which, by the way, Buffalo, And if

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you saw my predictions for Buffalo, I'm not a big

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>believer in that team. I think that I think that

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo's window might be closing. I think it might be

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>closing a little bit sooner than people think, but I do.

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel that way with Cincinnati, and I think

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>it's because of the quarterback and everything. And this is

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>why this rivalry is so good, because you have two

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>marquee guys at the quarterback position, which is everything you

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>want in one of these great rivalries. Even like for

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>anybody who grew up in the eighties, like all these

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>teams had, all these teams that were good always had

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>a good quarterback, whether it was the Broncos they had Lway.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Even Phil Simms with the Giants was pretty good. I

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>guess the Washington team never this. Thisman was fine, but

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>still Montana. All those guys. You want to have that

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>marquee quarterback and both teams have that. So that's why

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I love this rivalry.

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>We're talking to Adam Rank from the NFL Network. You

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 2>can check out his State of the Franchise articles at

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>NFL dot com. So you've done the State of the

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Franchise articles on the other teams in the division. How

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>do you think everybody else stacks up Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what, I'm impressed by Baltimore going out

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>there and really addressing the wide receiver position. It's strange

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to me that they've never drafted a Pro Bowl wide receiver,

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and you think about all the guys. Every year, it

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>seems like they draft a wide receiver. It was Rashad

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Bateman a couple of years ago. He's missed some games.

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Now it's Zay Flowers. I want to believe in my

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>scouting or at least listening to the scouts who tell me, like,

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I think Zay Flowers is a good player. We saw

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>some of the film of him at Boston College. But

0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you're like, he's still drafted by the Ravens, Like, how

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>good is it going to be? I love Odell Beckham junior.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>He is a premier wide receiver, and it's like, oh,

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna be Isaiah Likely who ends up leading

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the team in receptions or something like that. I want

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to see. But I love Baltimore. I like John Harbaugh.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a great coach, but he got to

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>see it. You know, there's something about them like they

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>need to be able to get over that hump, you know.

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>With Lamar Jackson, I'm a big Lamar Jackson fan, and

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I would even point out that, you know, even like

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of teams are like, well, if

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>we get them in a deficit, they they can't rally

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter. But Lamar Jackson has really good

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>numbers when he's trailing in the fourth quarter. You know,

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I put that in the piece as well. But at

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 1>some point you got to do it, you know. That's

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing with me is like Lamar Jackson's what

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>one and three in the playoffs. One of those wins

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>came against the Chargers, which I don't think should count. Joe.

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing about Joe Burrow, It's like we've

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>already seen it. Like we've seen him go to the

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, We've seen him win big games, win big

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>games on the road. We have not seen that from Baltimore.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I like, what's doing my scouting or my my thoughts

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of Kenny Pickett coming in last year? I didn't think

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>he was the best quarterback prospect. Now he played very

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>well at the end of the season, But I think

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that coincided with TJ. Watt returning. They're like, well,

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Kenny Pickett was six and two in his last eight games,

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>are like, well, TJ. Watt also returned, Like, let's not

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>forget that it's TJ. Watt who returned that also helped

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.959
<v Speaker 1>propel them to all those wins. So I think they

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>still have some question marks at quarterback. And then Cleveland,

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I whatever. Like, again, I've already given you my thoughts

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 1>on Cleveland. You've already fired Stefanski. I've already fired him.

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't like their quarterback. I I don't know. I

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>just I don't like the situation. I don't like what

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>they've done. Like I just I just don't dig it, honestly,

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 1>like any quarterback that you're gonna go out there and

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>give a fully getting You're you're giving up so much capital.

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, you gave up so much draft capital to

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>get this quarterback who hadn't played what twenty months or

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>something like that. It's such a huge risk, like giving

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>up that, Like even Denver found out the hard way like,

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe you should build a better team around some of

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>these quarterbacks. Maybe these quarterbacks aren't as good as we

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>think they are. Now, there are some guys I think

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>who are transcendent who would be fine anywhere, Joe Burrow

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>being one of them, Patrick Mahomes being one of them.

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I think Cleveland's gonna find out the hard way. And

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>then you know, when the season goes on, you know,

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and you start as injuries happen and things start to

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<v Speaker 1>erode your depth, and you're like, oh, yeah, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been nice to have a couple of first round

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 1>picks that we could plug in right here. That's gonna

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>end up hurting them. So I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland could surprise me, and I will come out there

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'll admit it, and I'll apologize to everybody in

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland to Drew Carry everybody. I just don't see it.

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I can make a case for Pittsburgh more so Baltimore,

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>who are good teams. I don't think they're the elite

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>level that Cincinnati is.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't see Deshaun Watson returning to the four

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<v Speaker 2>that he displayed in Houston before all of his problems.

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>What is his form like, what is it like throwing

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<v Speaker 1>for four thousand yards and winning four games? Like AF

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<v Speaker 1>I could see that. I could definitely see Cleveland doing that.

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I just don't see them winning a lot of football games.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Like He's never on the NFL level been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. And you look at it. Was it Houston?

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Was it him? I don't know, Like last year it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem like maybe Houston knew what they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>when they got rid of him. So I need to

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<v Speaker 1>see it. I need to see him go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and perform in Cleveland. And they've got a pretty decent class.

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've got good wide receivers as well. Amari

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Cooper continues to be vastly underrated. Nick Chubbs a very

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.280
<v Speaker 1>good running back. Let's see if they can put it together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to remain skeptical until I see it.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:47.240
<v Speaker 2>So last thing, the Bengals are your AFC team. Let's

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>say they stay relatively injury free. I'm knocking on my

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 2>head and live up to that prediction. Who do they

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<v Speaker 2>face in the Super Bowl? He glass forty nine ers?

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>What do you think your beloved Bears for Bears? Why

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>can't I just say the Bears? Like I gotta know

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<v Speaker 2>if I was, if I'm picking it right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so hard for these teams to get back to the

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>super Bowl. We saw it last year with your own Bengals.

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 2>You know the Eagles are going to be back in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFC Championship game. I think that the NFC comes

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>down to two teams. It's the Bengal or the Bengals.

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>It's the forty nine Ers and it's the Eagles.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think that those two teams are vastly superior

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to everybody else. The Cowboys fans will argue with this,

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>but still like it is the NFC North is, although

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Lions fans think it's them, I don't, No, it's not.

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I really like the forty nine Ers. I think that

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>they could figure out their quarterback situation and it's a

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a huge leap of faith, but at Brock perty

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>And you can ask me again in August, once training

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.760
<v Speaker 1>camp starts and we see Brock party throw or whether

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Trey Lance is fully able to rehab. I think as

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>long as they lock in on one quarterback and go

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>with him, I think defensively they're great. They've got Christian McCaffrey,

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>they've got so much talent on offense, it's hard for

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>me to imagine them failing, and even last year in

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 1>that NFC Championship game, even being as like no dimensional

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.919
<v Speaker 1>as they were, and perhaps Philadelphia was just playing down

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>to their opponent, not exposing their full bag of tricks,

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>knowing that they were going to beat this team. I

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>thought the forty nine Ers made that game a lot

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>more competitive than it should have been. And at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why aren't you just direct snapping at the

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey Just do that? Like why why not? Like

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I would I would have Christian McCaffrey taking snaps instead

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>of changing the rule for the emergency quarterback. I would

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 1>just have McCaffrey take snaps, or you could could you

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>catch the ball out of the shotgun? Like figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the forty nine ers are very good, so

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know, you know what, I've actually now

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>talked myself into the Eagles because I think the stability

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>at the quarterback position with Jalen Hurts and a very

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>good team. Yeah, Bengals Eagles, Like it's.

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Like it should have been last year Bengals Eagles Super

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Bowl and Stefanski fired with Jim Schwartz taking over at

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 2>some point before the end of the year. Those are

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the hot take predictions from this particular podcast appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. That's good. Well, hey, wait, why don't

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I just throwing the Bears are making the playoffs too,

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>just so I can go completely, just to really erode

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>all my credibility. I know, I feel like I'm pandering,

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>but we've had this discussion. We've been doing this for

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years, and I remember the first

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>time that the Bengals made it back. You were like,

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>not surprised, but you're like, oh, you see a lot

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of promise in this Bengals team. I go, I really

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>do so. As wrong as I've ever been about the

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers of some of these other teams, I

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>have been spot on with the Bengals, I feel every year,

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>so at least take heart in that it's like, I

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>know your team. I'm might not the other ones, but

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I know the Bengals, and I know that you guys

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be doing really well. All right.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>The state of the franchise stories are great, They're very interesting,

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 2>they're very funny. You do a great job with it

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>every year, and I appreciate you coming on the podcast

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 2>every year.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Adam.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope to see you in Cincinnati sometime during training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to be on to Cincinnati because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great town, great fans. I enjoyed every minute of it,

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 1>so I hope to do that again. And Asel. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope the Reds are in town because I gotta go

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 1>see Ali. Oh, gotta go see him.

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