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Speaker 3: All Right, Cowboys wide receiver Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 4: You just heard his name.
Speaker 3: He is an integral part of the Cowboys offense. He
Speaker 3: restructured his contract.
Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: He was asked by a fan on x why he
Speaker 3: did it, to which he replied.
Speaker 4: I want to win.
Speaker 3: It's going to take more than just myself. So let's
Speaker 3: talk about the Cowboys. They currently there's their new head coach.
Speaker 3: They currently have the NFC's longest streak of brutal strip
Speaker 3: writing not appearing in a conference championship game, Kyle, So
Speaker 3: they can thank the commanders for that one. What is
Speaker 3: it going to take for the Cowboys to once again
Speaker 3: lift up their fan base and make some noise in
Speaker 3: the NFC East in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2: Kyle?
Speaker 3: I know you just love this question so much. Your
Speaker 3: heart is growing three times bigger as I ask it.
Speaker 5: I do, yes, like the Grinch, but that's the opposoite this.
Speaker 5: It's an exciting time to be a Cowboys fan. Actually,
Speaker 5: the expectations are low. There's a new coach, there's a
Speaker 5: new future, and what are the Cowboys need to do. Guys,
Speaker 5: I'm going to really impress you here. This is a
Speaker 5: twenty dollars bill. This is my per diem I get
Speaker 5: from the network. Okay, the Cowboys have literally millions of these.
Speaker 6: What you want to do is.
Speaker 5: You want to take them, hand them to young athletes
Speaker 5: in exchange for goods and services. Okay, don't burn it,
Speaker 5: invest it, spend it.
Speaker 4: For the love of.
Speaker 5: God, you can't take it with you, Jerry. We know
Speaker 5: what happened last year. They were the lowest spenders in
Speaker 5: free agency by far. They had barely half of what
Speaker 5: the next lowest spenders did.
Speaker 7: They just sat there.
Speaker 5: And they hoarded it all, and then they had a
Speaker 5: terrible season and extended their streak of not even making
Speaker 5: it to a title game.
Speaker 6: Let's look at the history, though. You think this is
Speaker 6: the year free agents, let's go.
Speaker 7: Let's let me make splashes.
Speaker 5: In the last fifteen years, fifteen years else Cowboys have
Speaker 5: signed one free agent who made a Pro Bowl. That
Speaker 5: free agent was Brian Anger.
Speaker 6: Guys, he plays punter.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 5: Fifteen years Pro Bowl free agent punter. This is in
Speaker 5: the now post Saquon era, in which their arch rival
Speaker 5: just won the Super Bowl. I have signed a free
Speaker 5: agent two thousand and seven. Then you have to go
Speaker 5: back to Leonard Davis as a free agent you want
Speaker 5: to look in for a free agent home run. He
Speaker 5: played four of his seven contract years and he's a
Speaker 5: guard before now you have to go to Tara Loans
Speaker 5: and guys. That's like I'm just getting out of college
Speaker 5: at this point.
Speaker 6: This is how long we're talking about.
Speaker 5: As we see these fans who just watched the damn
Speaker 5: Eagles win the Super Bowl and the Commanders have a
Speaker 5: dream season.
Speaker 6: Jerry, let's go.
Speaker 5: He has told this show that he said in his
Speaker 5: Jerry Charms that my hand doesn't cramp.
Speaker 6: Up when I write checks. Well, maybe we should check out.
Speaker 5: I think maybe Jerry might need some elector lights or
Speaker 5: like some bananas or something like that, because.
Speaker 7: The hand is cramping.
Speaker 5: And if you didn't do it last year, and you
Speaker 5: haven't signed a Pro Bowl free agent since a punter,
Speaker 5: what are we waiting for?
Speaker 6: The Cowboys? Are this elderly person.
Speaker 7: In your life?
Speaker 5: Do you know one who they're terrified to spend any
Speaker 5: money and they don't even want to go out and
Speaker 5: buy a sandwich, let alone go on a vacation.
Speaker 6: You're like, you've saved your whole life. We checked the finances.
Speaker 6: You're good, You're comfortable.
Speaker 5: No, I just I think I should just stay here
Speaker 5: and set on my couch and watch reruns Cowboys get
Speaker 5: out there live. The wide receiver says, I can't do
Speaker 5: it alone, and he's right, go fight fire with fire.
Speaker 5: And I can't believe I have to tell the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 5: America's team, spend some money. Go treat yourself. You've earned it.
Speaker 5: It will work, give it a try.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So a couple of weeks ago, Cowboys executive vice president
Speaker 8: Stephen Jones comes out and says, we're going to be
Speaker 8: selectively aggressive this offseason.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 8: I think that's a great approach to the off season.
Speaker 8: Now they've already started doing that a little bit. They
Speaker 8: restructure CD LAMB. They just restructured Dak Prescott as well,
Speaker 8: so they opened up.
Speaker 4: A little bit money. But I'm with Kyle. I think
Speaker 4: they need to spend a lot of money.
Speaker 8: But where they need to spend it is in house
Speaker 8: instead of going to free agency. You need to keep
Speaker 8: the core guys that you have on your roster right now.
Speaker 8: If you want to win in my opinion, what does
Speaker 8: that look like. Well, they already did one of those things.
Speaker 8: Osa Odiggi zoo wall I love that. Four years eighty
Speaker 8: million very well. Deserve a great d tackle DeMarco Farr.
Speaker 8: He is a problem up front.
Speaker 4: He is a.
Speaker 8: Disruptive player, and if you're a defensive tackle, that's the
Speaker 8: definition that you want. Very disruptive. He can stop the run,
Speaker 8: but he can also get after the quarterback. The next
Speaker 8: guy that you need to focus on, I think everyone agrees,
Speaker 8: is Michael Parsons. He wants to be extended. You need
Speaker 8: to extend him. You need to pay him. He has
Speaker 8: a staple on your defense. You need to find a
Speaker 8: way to keep him, keep him in Dallas for a
Speaker 8: very long time, because if you want to win games,
Speaker 8: you need guys like number eleven on your roster.
Speaker 4: You need Miles Garrett, you need TJ. Watsh.
Speaker 8: You need some of the best defenders in football on
Speaker 8: your team. The next guy for me is, in.
Speaker 4: My opinion, one of their top priority guys.
Speaker 8: He's been there for a couple of years. They drafted
Speaker 8: him back in twenty seventeen. He's a homegrown guy. But
Speaker 8: that's defensive back Jordan Lewis. I thought he played phenomenal
Speaker 8: last year. He was very good at that nickel position right,
Speaker 8: and he's had such versatility. He can cover the tight end,
Speaker 8: he can cover the slot receiver. He's great in the
Speaker 8: run game. He is a staple on your defense, and
Speaker 8: they need to keep him around. He hasn't had a
Speaker 8: payday yet. He's been playing a lot on on veteran contracts,
Speaker 8: and he's been in the league now for eight years.
Speaker 8: It's time to pay him. So those are a couple
Speaker 8: of guys for me that they need to focus on.
Speaker 8: Out of those three, they've already paid one of them,
Speaker 8: but they still need to go out and pay Parsons
Speaker 8: and Lewis. In my opinion, I'm with Kyle on the Commanders.
Speaker 8: Just playing the NFC Championship game against Eagles. Two of
Speaker 8: your rivals, one won the Super Bowl, one is supposed
Speaker 8: to be in a rebuild.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 8: If I'm the Cowboys, We're seven and ten and we
Speaker 8: missed the playoffs. And I know the years before that
Speaker 8: that they have been to the playoffs, and last year
Speaker 8: they had some injuries. But it just feels like every
Speaker 8: year the Cowboys over promise and under delivered, Right, and
Speaker 8: the fans are starting to get tired.
Speaker 4: They want to turn that corner.
Speaker 8: Why are the Commanders in the NFC Championship and we're
Speaker 8: still struggling in twenty twenty four, So they've got to
Speaker 8: make some big decisions.
Speaker 4: This is a huge offseason for the.
Speaker 3: Dallas Okay, are you going to sit here right now
Speaker 3: and say that, Oh so Digazoa, Jordan Lewis and Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: Those paying those guys, that's what's going to have you
Speaker 3: beat the Phildelphi Eagles.
Speaker 4: That's going to be it.
Speaker 3: It's not going wide receiver. You're thinking selectively aggressive implies
Speaker 3: on defense.
Speaker 8: That's where you start. Michael Parsons one of the best
Speaker 8: players in football. Oh so Diggy's a younger player who's
Speaker 8: just going to keep getting better. And then Jordan letis
Speaker 8: a veteran. I think those are three guys that are
Speaker 8: a staple. And then after we secure that, then we
Speaker 8: can go and spend some more money in free agency.
Speaker 8: But I think it's so important, And Kyle said they've
Speaker 8: been going to getting.
Speaker 4: Free agents and none of them are really panning out.
Speaker 8: Focus in house and then let's go branch out and
Speaker 8: go find some guys in free agency.
Speaker 4: They can help us.
Speaker 3: With Marko, I feel like we're in the upside down
Speaker 3: right now. Cody's advocating to pay the defense, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure you're going to come at me now with wide
Speaker 3: receiver one.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 9: I was thinking about it, right I was really thinking
Speaker 9: about it now. I mean trying to beat the Eagles
Speaker 9: right now. I mean they could be set up for
Speaker 9: a long run. I mean they're real, real good, so
Speaker 9: that's tough. But I mean looking at Jerry two things.
Speaker 9: Number One, I think the Cowboys are the most valuable
Speaker 9: sports franchise in the world period.
Speaker 7: And he's a good actor. It was awesome. He was
Speaker 7: great on Landman, so good stuff.
Speaker 9: But thinking about Dallas moving forward, you're right, I'm glad
Speaker 9: you mentioned Michah Parsons.
Speaker 7: Outside of Mahomes or any of the.
Speaker 9: Offensive guys we consider one of the best in the league.
Speaker 9: I think Michaeh. Parsons is one of the best players
Speaker 9: we've ever seen.
Speaker 7: He really is.
Speaker 9: He can line up absolutely anywhere, he can rush from anywhere,
Speaker 9: and he can cover.
Speaker 7: Just as well. So and I like what he said.
Speaker 9: I know Max Crosby just you know, set the market,
Speaker 9: but Michaeh. Parsons was quick to say, I don't need
Speaker 9: to be the highest paid guy in the league to
Speaker 9: be effective. That's not what he's after. He's after wins.
Speaker 9: He's after championship. So anyway you can figure out to
Speaker 9: get Dak Prescott over the hump, Dak puts up numbers.
Speaker 9: I like Dak Prescott, don't you? And everybody does. The
Speaker 9: guy can absolutely play. Why he hasn't gotten farther than
Speaker 9: he has is beyond me. But I do look at
Speaker 9: this at Brian Schottenheimer getting his shot to be the
Speaker 9: Cowboys coach. I know shoddy shot. He's a good man,
Speaker 9: he's a good dude, and he's a fantastic coach. We're
Speaker 9: gonna find out if he can be a head coach.
Speaker 9: I think he's in the right spot.
Speaker 7: We'll see.
Speaker 9: He's got a lot of pieces to work with. He's
Speaker 9: got Ceedee lamb, he's got Dak. Like I just mentioned,
Speaker 9: they're not that far away. The problem is Philadelphia is
Speaker 9: in your division. Easier said than done. So we'll see
Speaker 9: what happens with the Cowboys, And I'm with you. I
Speaker 9: bet that fan base is getting restless. But it's the
Speaker 9: Cowboys they're going to be there every single Sunday.
Speaker 8: And the commanders are only getting better, right, They're going
Speaker 8: to keep getting They're going to get more skilled.
Speaker 7: I'm a lifelong Cowboy fan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 10: My text chains are filled with many bad words about
Speaker 10: what the Cowboys have accomplished lately. But it's real easy
Speaker 10: to say, we got to spend money. We got to
Speaker 10: spend money. I know, DAK and CD just restructure. There's
Speaker 10: still huge numbers against the cap, and again I don't
Speaker 10: pretend to understand how the cap works. Certain teams seem
Speaker 10: to be able to circumvent that better than others.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 10: But if you sign Parsons, which you absolutely have to do,
Speaker 10: you're looking at another huge deal. How many top premiere
Speaker 10: free agents are they going to be able to go
Speaker 10: out and get with those huge guys already on their books.
Speaker 7: I don't understand it.
Speaker 4: It's a great point.
Speaker 8: They're one of the teams that's going to heavily benefit
Speaker 8: from the salary cap going from two undred and fifty
Speaker 8: five million.
Speaker 4: To undred and eighty million. But I'm with you.
Speaker 8: If you want to have star players, you can only
Speaker 8: sign so many, right, and then you have to go
Speaker 8: find guys in the draft. You have to go find
Speaker 8: maybe some veterans that have been in the league for
Speaker 8: a while that don't want max contract. So it's going
Speaker 8: to be interesting. But there's a lot of hurdles for
Speaker 8: the Jones this offseason, for the Cowboys to become a
Speaker 8: true continent.
Speaker 9: I am with Kyle, though it's weird that we're trying
Speaker 9: to convince the Cowboys to spend money.
Speaker 7: That's weird. Are they not?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 10: Like, where are they in the salary in the overall?
Speaker 8: Like, well, so right now, I know they were a
Speaker 8: team that's going to have to jump some hurdles.
Speaker 3: They were showing I know the exact number after the.
Speaker 10: Yeah, why do we think they're not doing their job?
Speaker 2: Kyle?
Speaker 4: Do you have an answer to this question?
Speaker 5: Well, listen, I love Micah and I love Dak.
Speaker 7: It's guys.
Speaker 5: They were both out there last year when the Cowboys
Speaker 5: lost by thirty eight points to the Lions. They were
Speaker 5: out there when the Cowboys got slaughtered by the terrible
Speaker 5: Saints at home. The guys they have are not getting
Speaker 5: it done. We need you guys, and just it's easy
Speaker 5: to look at Sakuan to Philadelphia and that's the glimmering object,
Speaker 5: and I get it, but maybe look at Washington, look
Speaker 5: at look at zach Ertz, and look at Bobby Wagner
Speaker 5: and look at Austin Eckler. Those guys weren't super expensive,
Speaker 5: high priced items, but they were huge parts of the
Speaker 5: run that they made. They changed the team, they changed
Speaker 5: the locker room, they made huge plays. The guys that
Speaker 5: Dallas have, as expensive as they need be, are not enough.
Speaker 5: One of them is actually saying on social media, we're
Speaker 5: not enough. It's not just to get your own finances
Speaker 5: in the house is not enough. That house is nothing
Speaker 5: right now, you got to bring new people to the party.
Speaker 5: If they go through this free agency and do the
Speaker 5: cowboys thing again, We're like, yeah, they didn't do much.
Speaker 5: I just you actually get accusatory with them. You're like,
Speaker 5: do you care? Do you want to win? Do you
Speaker 5: want to make money? Like what are you doing? Go
Speaker 5: out and bring some people in and if they don't work,
Speaker 5: you tried, but take some damn swings, let's go.
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like they're at selectively aggressive yet, I
Speaker 3: guess is where this conversation landed.
Speaker 4: Well year before they were all just aggressive aggressive. Why
Speaker 4: does it have to be selective?
Speaker 2: They do this.
Speaker 3: They do this at the trade deadline, like good, We're
Speaker 3: going to say everybody, We're going to sign everybody.
Speaker 2: The Kers do it?
Speaker 4: Why are you all in two years ago over there?
Speaker 8: Yea, that was there, and they spend the least amount
Speaker 8: of money in the entire off season. So there was
Speaker 8: a lot of heads scratching and in confusing.
Speaker 4: With that.
Speaker 2: Good money football, good mon football.
Speaker 3: Browns general manager Andrew Berry did not waiver on his
Speaker 3: stance that the Browns have no interest at all in
Speaker 3: trading all pro pass rusher Miles Garrett Kyle, despite Miles
Speaker 3: Garrett putting the statement out himself not long ago, saying
Speaker 3: I would like out of Cleveland this. I called it
Speaker 3: awkward the other day, and I think Peter corrected me.
Speaker 4: He's like, it doesn't feel awkward to me. I'm still
Speaker 4: going to hang my hat on his awkward.
Speaker 11: I wonder why Peter said that.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 5: We'll asking when he's back. I don't think Miles Garrett's
Speaker 5: playing for the Browns. I don't really, I don't not
Speaker 5: on his end, you know, I'm sure that they're like,
Speaker 5: he's our best player, he's maybe the top three player
Speaker 5: in the league. We're not letting him go. I think
Speaker 5: he has strong convictions. I think he's seen a lot
Speaker 5: of things. I think he wants out. I just want
Speaker 5: to address one thing. I was reading a lot about
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett last night, and one of the things that
Speaker 5: comes up is this idea of teams that could potentially
Speaker 5: be suitors if the Browns were to agree to part
Speaker 5: with them. And there's this pushback about, like, you know,
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett is going to be so expensive, just draft
Speaker 5: an edge rusher, Like have you ever seen Miles Garrett
Speaker 5: play football?
Speaker 7: Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 5: You could bring up all the guys in this year's draft,
Speaker 5: all the edge rushers in last year's draft, and next
Speaker 5: year's draft.
Speaker 6: None of them are Miles Garrett.
Speaker 5: These are great players right here, they're not Miles Garrett's
Speaker 5: and even if you were to draft room, they're not
Speaker 5: gonna be Miles Garrett.
Speaker 7: He is put it this way.
Speaker 5: You know how good you have to be to win
Speaker 5: a game on national television and then the postgame reporter
Speaker 5: goes to you and says, so, Miles, how do you
Speaker 5: see the best players on defense in the league right now?
Speaker 6: And to say this I'm number.
Speaker 4: One, and no, that's fine, as you been to one
Speaker 4: edge one to depend to play of the year.
Speaker 7: I'm the guy, so that runs to me.
Speaker 5: With due respect to the guys coming out or other
Speaker 5: free agents. Nobody's that guy last year.
Speaker 7: TJ.
Speaker 5: Watt wasn't that guy. That guy is that guy. I
Speaker 5: know Cleveland wants to hold on to him. I think
Speaker 5: he's determined to leave. Don't think you can get anything
Speaker 5: else other than him if you move for it.
Speaker 7: Pete said it wasn't awkward.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I said, wow, Peter, this seems awkward. We're
Speaker 3: a player to put out a statement and then for
Speaker 3: his general manager at head coach to openly is just
Speaker 3: say like, no, that guy's playing for us next year.
Speaker 4: I deemed it awkward.
Speaker 3: Peter said it wasn't because he's just he was convinced
Speaker 3: that the team was steadfast and that they will work
Speaker 3: something out, and that how you couldn't let Miles Garrett
Speaker 3: walk out the door.
Speaker 7: Makes perfect sense.
Speaker 9: I get both sides now, because if you're Cleveland, you
Speaker 9: never let him go.
Speaker 7: He's one of the best players we've ever seen.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's almost a guarantee, a lock for double
Speaker 9: digit sacks of the year. He cannot be blocked with
Speaker 9: one or two.
Speaker 7: He is just that guy.
Speaker 9: So I understand the other side of him, and I
Speaker 9: was shocked about Joe Thomas and other players that were
Speaker 9: in Cleveland that have lost for so long. You need to,
Speaker 9: you know, try to get out of there if you
Speaker 9: want to win. You're getting towards the end of your career.
Speaker 9: So I get for Miles Garrett's coming from. I want
Speaker 9: to go someplace where I can win, where this stuff
Speaker 9: where we see doesn't get buried in the highlights. Yeah,
Speaker 9: where it actually gets, you know, put to the forefront.
Speaker 9: He is, like I said, the pre eminent player in
Speaker 9: the National Football League along defensive line. And so SO
Speaker 9: saw him in Los Angeles. He happened to be in
Speaker 9: the same suite I was in for a Lakers game.
Speaker 9: Just walked in and it's so funny. His shoulders couldn't
Speaker 9: fit through the door, but his waist was like a
Speaker 9: thirty two. It's like if you were cut like a superhero.
Speaker 8: I was in Cleveland his rook in the year when
Speaker 8: we drafted him. He is one of the best physical
Speaker 8: specimens I've ever been around in my entire life, and
Speaker 8: he's so athletic. But this is the most intriguing offseason
Speaker 8: story for me. It really is, because it's completely two
Speaker 8: different sides of the spectrum. You have Miles Garrett on
Speaker 8: February third, who says to the world, I want to
Speaker 8: be traded. Then he goes on radio row during the
Speaker 8: Super Bowl week doubles down, I want to be traded.
Speaker 4: I want to be traded. Fast forward to the combine.
Speaker 8: Then you have Andrew Berry, the general manager, come out
Speaker 8: and say we're not trading them, He's not going anywhere.
Speaker 8: And then you have Kevin Stefanski reiterate that and say,
Speaker 8: you know he's going to be here. He's a part
Speaker 8: of our president, he's a part of our future. He's
Speaker 8: going to be on the team this year, next year,
Speaker 8: in the year after that. So it's two completely opposite sides.
Speaker 8: And the thing that worries me is that Miles Garrett
Speaker 8: didn't come out and say I want more money, right,
Speaker 8: I want X amount of dolts I want I want
Speaker 8: to be traded to a team that's going to win
Speaker 8: a Super Bowl. And if you do trade Miles Garrett,
Speaker 8: I believe you're starting your rebuild.
Speaker 4: If you're the Browns thirty and fourteen a year ago.
Speaker 8: If you let your best player walk away trying to
Speaker 8: get multiple first round picks for him, you are basically saying.
Speaker 7: What do you get for him? Yeah, that's the question.
Speaker 4: You can get anything you want right now in this fall.
Speaker 8: You're committing to a rebuild, saying that we know we're
Speaker 8: not going to get there because they're not competitors right now.
Speaker 8: They really aren't. This is a huge offseason for the Browns.
Speaker 8: They have the number two overall pick outside of the Saints.
Speaker 8: They have the worst salary cap situation in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Andrew Berry is.
Speaker 8: Gonna have to jump a lot of hurdles when it
Speaker 8: comes to free agency. It's just it's a very difficult situation.
Speaker 8: I just don't know how they can keep Miles Garrett
Speaker 8: happy and figure out a way to contend.
Speaker 7: Nowhere to go on, you nail it.
Speaker 5: If there's money problems, you can fix them. We'll figure
Speaker 5: it out, get someone to adjust it.
Speaker 6: Fine.
Speaker 5: He said that this past season was worse than ZHO
Speaker 5: sixteen for him, Like it's not about money, It's like
Speaker 5: I want out of here.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine going to work there?
Speaker 5: And there's this whole Deshaun Watson thing that you've gone through,
Speaker 5: not to mention the losing.
Speaker 6: Now Watson's hurt. What is this team?
Speaker 5: I'm deep in my career. I've never won squat. I
Speaker 5: want to win something. I want to be one of
Speaker 5: the greats. I want to be Reggie White running around
Speaker 5: with the Packers holding up the low. I don't think
Speaker 5: it's money, it's I don't want to play here anymore.
Speaker 6: I don't live here anymore.
Speaker 3: In the statement, it was I want to go from
Speaker 3: Cleveland to Canton. And I think what he's implying is that, like,
Speaker 3: if I stay here, you are messing with my goals
Speaker 3: and my career goals in his like Hall of Fame pursuit.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a very specific direction that he wants
Speaker 3: to do. I'm a conspiracy theorist. I think that ownership
Speaker 3: GM coach, they are going to say he is not
Speaker 3: going anywhere, to drive up the price and to see
Speaker 3: what they would get for Miles Garrett, because I think
Speaker 3: somebody would want a.
Speaker 4: Bad Land and I don't care what you have.
Speaker 9: He's better. Yeah, I would trade anything to get me Garrett.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 5: Anytime we let our self think about landing spots every.
Speaker 6: Time you're like, oh God, no, he's gonna go to Philly.
Speaker 5: Oh it's terrifying. Like it's almost like we can't have
Speaker 5: that happens. It's like, you know, David Stern, like nullifying trades.
Speaker 7: Wait we can ye fair.
Speaker 5: I mean this is like to the Lakers, like we
Speaker 5: can't have Miles Garrett in a Philadelphia get a Miles
Speaker 5: Garrett in anywhere.
Speaker 3: The one move for Miles Garrett with everything that that
Speaker 3: team would have to give up, would be parallel to
Speaker 3: the Rams and how they did all those things with
Speaker 3: the picks a couple of years ago in order to win.
Speaker 7: I hope it's out of the West.
Speaker 8: To Jamie's point, though, it gets to the situation of
Speaker 8: do we keep Miles Garrett he's not happy and we
Speaker 8: know he doesn't want to be here, or do we
Speaker 8: pull the trigger on a trade and try to figure
Speaker 8: out the situation now, Because like I said, I just
Speaker 8: and not a lot of fund memories in Cleveland, but
Speaker 8: I love the fans, I love the city. You know,
Speaker 8: they treated me well. I want to see them be successful.
Speaker 8: I want to see him when I think Miles Garrett
Speaker 8: has to be a part of that picture but if
Speaker 8: he doesn't want to be there, I.
Speaker 9: Bet they don't blame the point because eventually he's going
Speaker 9: to have to come back and play. Yeah, he is,
Speaker 9: because he's on a Hall of Fame type career and
Speaker 9: you've got to play.
Speaker 5: Keep those their logic in trading, taking the huge king's
Speaker 5: ransom of picks and rebuilding your team, which you need
Speaker 5: to do otherwise you.
Speaker 6: Keep a fantastic defensive end.
Speaker 5: I get he's a great player, but you can spend
Speaker 5: that stuff and the real building blocks and the quarterback
Speaker 5: and all.
Speaker 4: That, and that's a huge jumpstart to the rebuilding.
Speaker 3: So I have and they've had him, and they even
Speaker 3: having him, they haven't won the way he has wanted to,
Speaker 3: or frankly, the way the organization probably wants to with
Speaker 3: him in the building. So he's great, but they got
Speaker 3: to do something, and I'm still calling it awkward. Third down,
Speaker 3: here's a look at Lancer. I will not take any
Speaker 3: other word to Marco. Here's a look at Lancer lines
Speaker 3: mock draft two point zero. We're already onto the second
Speaker 3: version in mock drafting season. He has the Browns taking
Speaker 3: Colorados Heisman Trophy winner Travis Hunter after the Titan selects
Speaker 3: Abdul Carter number one overall.
Speaker 4: Let's do this ourselves.
Speaker 3: Who should the Browns take with the second overall pick.
Speaker 3: We'll start with the former Brown himself, Cody Kessler.
Speaker 8: Obviously, the Browns need a quarterback, and it's pretty consistent.
Speaker 8: And obviously, I know there's some different mock drafts out there,
Speaker 8: but a lot of people think they're going to take
Speaker 8: a quarterback at number two. I'll say this, if you're
Speaker 8: not one hundred percent sure, if you're not one hundred
Speaker 8: and ten percent sure that the quarterback you're taking is
Speaker 8: the future of your franchise for at minimum the next
Speaker 8: five to seven years, do not make that pick. You
Speaker 8: Just because a team needs a quarterback doesn't mean you
Speaker 8: have to take a quarterback.
Speaker 4: And I feel like that happens a.
Speaker 8: Lot in drafts, to where teams feel like, well, this
Speaker 8: is the top guy and we need a quarterback, let
Speaker 8: me take him, or feel like, you know, this is
Speaker 8: the next best quarterback available and we need a quarterback,
Speaker 8: so let's pick a quarterback.
Speaker 4: You don't have to do that.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of very talented players at the top
Speaker 8: of this draft board, right and I'm fine with either
Speaker 8: one with the Browns. If they take Abdul Carter and
Speaker 8: he's still there or Travis Hunter and he's still there,
Speaker 8: I'm completely fine with those two picks. All I'm going
Speaker 8: to say is if you're not fully sold on the quarterback,
Speaker 8: you don't have to take him, because if the Browns
Speaker 8: take the wrong guy at quarterback, they are going to
Speaker 8: set their franchise back for multiple years. They can't miss
Speaker 8: again on the quarterback. And that's why I say for
Speaker 8: Andrew Berry, this is his most important offseason as a
Speaker 8: general manager for the Browns.
Speaker 7: We think just thinking what else is in the room?
Speaker 9: Because I'm thinking how to build a football team and
Speaker 9: I have to go out there and take snaps in September.
Speaker 9: So what else am I going to trot out there?
Speaker 9: If I don't take a quarterback high? I'm asking, like,
Speaker 9: who's in the room, Like, we need someone to take some.
Speaker 4: Money in free agency? Get a guy, or.
Speaker 9: I could take a young guy that I like or
Speaker 9: kind of like in cam Ord and say, let's see, now,
Speaker 9: I get you.
Speaker 7: It's a high pick and it's.
Speaker 9: There's risk involved. But what else am I go to
Speaker 9: put on the field? I need someone to take back?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 9: There's a good chance that the guy may actually pan out.
Speaker 9: He was a really good college player. Of all the
Speaker 9: quarterbacks in the draft, I think I like him the best.
Speaker 9: I think he is game ready right now. So I
Speaker 9: wouldn't hesitate if I'm Cleveland to take a quarterback, especially
Speaker 9: if I needed one.
Speaker 5: And you know, Cody's point is, I get it, but
Speaker 5: don't take the wrong quarterback just for the sake of
Speaker 5: taking a quarterback you knew is you find a Jamis
Speaker 5: type and you put them out there and you try
Speaker 5: your best, and maybe you go six and eleven in
Speaker 5: the quarterback next year?
Speaker 6: What kills me?
Speaker 5: What kills me if a Browns fan is like, of course,
Speaker 5: we have the second overall pick in the non quarterback draft.
Speaker 6: We couldn't have taken Jason Daniels last year, couldn't we could.
Speaker 4: Have taken Drake.
Speaker 6: Maybe they were coming out.
Speaker 5: Of our ears last year, right outside the top of anybody.
Speaker 7: But this is what Miles Garrett's talking about.
Speaker 9: Okay, So you're going to keep waiting to rebuild and
Speaker 9: I'm just I'm putting in Hall of Fame numbers and
Speaker 9: we keep losing. You know, if you're going to keep
Speaker 9: doing this I'm out, so it makes sense, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think they should sign a quarterback and free agency and
Speaker 3: take the best athlete at that spot. And even if
Speaker 3: you trade back a couple and get another first round
Speaker 3: pick or another second round pick.
Speaker 2: Build your team.
Speaker 3: It's not just about one guy. And again we've seen
Speaker 3: that with Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4: One guy can't win you football games.
Speaker 3: Quarterback can't, if an edge rusher can't with Miles Garrett,
Speaker 3: you got to build the entire team best athlete on
Speaker 3: the board.
Speaker 5: I actually don't hate Donald in Cleveland. That's what I'm
Speaker 5: And when you talk about free agents, I like the
Speaker 5: pairing there. I feel like Stefanski and O'Connell have a
Speaker 5: lot in common, and you know, they don't have the
Speaker 5: weapons that the Vikings do and they don't play in
Speaker 5: the dome. It's not ideal, but I don't hate Donald
Speaker 5: in Cleveland.
Speaker 11: How much for Donald, I mean probably a lot.
Speaker 4: That's what we keep hearing.
Speaker 12: Yeah, good football, good football.
Speaker 3: We had Max Crosby on the show about a month
Speaker 3: or two ago in January, and it was really fun
Speaker 3: having him on because Max would say a single word
Speaker 3: a certain direction in the studio and everyone onlines like
Speaker 3: what's the Easter egg?
Speaker 4: Where is he going to go?
Speaker 3: When Max Crosby speaks, people listen, and yesterday on The
Speaker 3: Rush podcast, he said this about Aaron Rodgers, a now
Speaker 3: free agent quarterback.
Speaker 4: Quote, I think.
Speaker 3: This year fully healthy, full off season. My prediction is
Speaker 3: he's going to have a great year. He being Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 3: I think he's going to have a big year, and
Speaker 3: I hope it's in our town.
Speaker 2: Our town.
Speaker 3: Crosby still under contract with the Raiders, although there is
Speaker 3: some restructuring efforts. I'm sure that is taking place with
Speaker 3: the star defensive player Cody big time takeaway from Max
Speaker 3: Crosby effectively giving a pitch for Aaron Rodgers to come
Speaker 3: to Vegas.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 8: Now, I don't know if he's going to be in
Speaker 8: Las Vegas, but I think Rogers can still play a
Speaker 8: high level if he's on the right team.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 8: But you got to look back at what his demands were.
Speaker 8: He said he wanted to play somewhere or it was
Speaker 8: warm weather, right, let's check for Vegas. But he also
Speaker 8: said he wants to go to a contender, a team
Speaker 8: that can win. I don't know if Las Vegas is
Speaker 8: quite there yet right now that They do have a
Speaker 8: lot of money to spend their second and salary cap
Speaker 8: behind the New England Patriots.
Speaker 4: Right, so they can go out there and get some pieces.
Speaker 8: They're gonna have to pay quarter if they do, so
Speaker 8: that'll take a little bit of a hit, but overall,
Speaker 8: they have money to spend and go get guys.
Speaker 4: Another thing too, though, is do the Raiders.
Speaker 8: Value Aaron Rodgers more than they value Sam Dharmer or
Speaker 8: a guy that's maybe a little bit younger that still
Speaker 8: has some more to play, you know, or a Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 8: another veteran that's out there, or they value a guy
Speaker 8: in the draft right now, and they're keeping the cards
Speaker 8: close to their chest with that six overall pick, and
Speaker 8: then they go out and get a veteran that's a
Speaker 8: backup and allow a rookie to go play.
Speaker 4: So I think there's so many question marks with this.
Speaker 8: But like I said, last year, Rodgers had thirty nine
Speaker 8: hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns, only eleven interceptions on a
Speaker 8: team that started falling apart right. They struggled throughout the
Speaker 8: rest of the year and then they had, you know,
Speaker 8: a change.
Speaker 4: At the head coach.
Speaker 8: If they fired their head coach fire, their GM, all
Speaker 8: these different things falling apart, and he still played pretty decent.
Speaker 8: So I think if he does go to Vegas and
Speaker 8: they can build some pieces around him, he can have
Speaker 8: a chance to come back and play. I don't know
Speaker 8: if he's gonna get quite back to where he's been before,
Speaker 8: but I think he can still produce at a very
Speaker 8: high level.
Speaker 4: I like Max doing it.
Speaker 11: I like Max picking up for the Raiders because I
Speaker 11: like Max on the Raiders. I don't see Rodgers going
Speaker 11: to the Raiders. Let's haven't rely seen this movie before.
Speaker 5: You go to an AFC team that has struggled for
Speaker 5: a long time to find a quarterback, who's hungry, who
Speaker 5: has some nice weapons, and they have some money to spend.
Speaker 4: We just saw this two years ago.
Speaker 5: The Raiders have a lot of the same stink on
Speaker 5: them that the Jets have had. This is not some
Speaker 5: perennial winner. This is not a team that is in
Speaker 5: the playoffs every year.
Speaker 7: It's Roger.
Speaker 5: If you're Rogers, you're not going for one final season
Speaker 5: twenty one, so you can go six and eleven to
Speaker 5: get your head kicked in as a Raider at the
Speaker 5: end of the season. That's not what it's about. And
Speaker 5: that's why personally, I think Rodgers.
Speaker 11: Is really interested in the Rams, because rams are the
Speaker 11: opt there right, rams are going places.
Speaker 4: Never mind the LA thing.
Speaker 5: Just sing the Rams are very good, and they're good
Speaker 5: every single year. Not to mention, you think Rogers wants
Speaker 5: to jump into the NFC West and like go against
Speaker 5: Mahomes and lose to him and all the things they
Speaker 5: have gone. I just it doesn't seem like a if
Speaker 5: you're planning like one final like sweetheart year at the
Speaker 5: end of a Hall of Fame career, this sounds terrible.
Speaker 7: I really do think it does.
Speaker 5: Not to mention, and I said this before, and I'm
Speaker 5: trying to be a diplomatic here. I don't think Aaron
Speaker 5: Rodgers and Tom Brady are best friends, and I don't
Speaker 5: think they hate each other's I just don't think that
Speaker 5: they're boys. That's my intuition, and that's a little bit
Speaker 5: of my insight that I know for a fact not
Speaker 5: only not best friends. Rogers is not Darnold. He is
Speaker 5: a god. He is a legend. Brady is a god.
Speaker 4: He's a legend.
Speaker 5: There's egos involved, there's legacies involved, and there's things involved
Speaker 5: where I don't know if Aaron Rodgers wants to be
Speaker 5: Tom Brady's little project as a new owner. There's something
Speaker 5: going on there, a big picture that I don't think
Speaker 5: would go well for number eight in the Jets right there,
Speaker 5: number twelve for the Raiders. There's everything about it that
Speaker 5: to not like A couple things to like, Sure, we
Speaker 5: love Pete Carroll, who knows if that'll work. Sure we
Speaker 5: love some of the talent I can't ever see. You're
Speaker 5: in Rogers corner. You're like, you know you should do
Speaker 5: Man for your last year. Let's go to the Raiders
Speaker 5: because they're always good. Like it sounds like like one
Speaker 5: of the worst ideas in the history of bad ideas.
Speaker 11: I don't like it at all.
Speaker 7: I am kicking myself.
Speaker 9: I should have said Rogers Brady Reality Show.
Speaker 7: Now, that would be fascinating. We'd watch that all day.
Speaker 9: The other thing, Leaving Las Vegas was a great movie,
Speaker 9: so this could be the same thing for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: Leaving Las Vegas, Like the guy just drinks himself to death.
Speaker 5: It's a terribly depressing movie and it could end the
Speaker 5: same way.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: If you go there, but I just I'll look at
Speaker 9: it this way, Aaron Rodgers is not what he was fair.
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, yes, four time MVP, but he's no bum.
Speaker 9: I think he's good enough to win with and with
Speaker 9: Pete Carroll there, I get you that kind of I
Speaker 9: wouldn't say it's good deodorant for the stink that was
Speaker 9: coming out of Vegas, for what was that franchise. I
Speaker 9: think he will change. That's the smartest move they've made
Speaker 9: in years. So they're headed in the right direction. You
Speaker 9: could do a lot worse than him. The only question
Speaker 9: I have, and I've never lived in Vegas. I don't
Speaker 9: know a lot of people that live there. I don't
Speaker 9: know how the Rogers drama plays out with their fan base,
Speaker 9: and most of their fan base travels in anyway.
Speaker 7: So I think if you give greater fans.
Speaker 9: Some hope that they can compete with Kansas City in
Speaker 9: the West, I think they could ignore the distraction. Aaron
Speaker 9: Rodgers versus Sam Darnold. This is what I would love
Speaker 9: to be a GM, But this is why I would not.
Speaker 9: I think I would go with the old guy over
Speaker 9: the young guy because I think I trust him more.
Speaker 7: But either way, I think he's.
Speaker 9: Still playing and I like that Max Crosby as just
Speaker 9: like Les Garrett is calling the shot.
Speaker 7: I want him, I want out. I love it. The
Speaker 7: guys aren't staying silent totally.
Speaker 4: DeMarco Kyle.
Speaker 3: There's not many things that I listen to you talk
Speaker 3: and I say here and I respect what you have
Speaker 3: to say, and like, I really really disagree with you
Speaker 3: on this one. And it's like a natural disagreement that
Speaker 3: is coming.
Speaker 4: To the surface.
Speaker 3: I think, haven't you ever worked with anybody that you're
Speaker 3: just straight up not friends with? But it works like
Speaker 3: it actually just comes out on the product and it
Speaker 3: like it tracks like I think this could be a thing.
Speaker 3: I think, no matter if Rogers and Tom Brady don't
Speaker 3: like each other, I actually think that what those two
Speaker 3: like better is building something that's successful in winning and
Speaker 3: leaving their legacy to your point, on a great note.
Speaker 3: And do I think Rogers is going to end his
Speaker 3: career on.
Speaker 6: A Super Bowl win?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: Did Brady? He did not either. I think if they
Speaker 3: sign Aaron Rodgers, you are doing something better than you
Speaker 3: could with Sam Donald, which is you are acknowledging that
Speaker 3: you're not in it. Sam Donald's going to come and
Speaker 3: want like a five or six year career with you,
Speaker 3: a ten year career with you. Rogers knows that this
Speaker 3: is towards the end of it. If you sign Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers in Las Vegas, you can take every single draft
Speaker 3: pick that you have and focus on the rest of
Speaker 3: your team, which is what the Raiders need to do.
Speaker 2: If you are.
Speaker 3: Distracted by the shiny object in the room, which is
Speaker 3: trying to draft a quarterback and a non quarterback draft year,
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders are setting themselves back. I think
Speaker 3: Rogers is a great fit. I think personality wise, he
Speaker 3: has Raider nation all over him. Kind of You called
Speaker 3: him petty competitive yesterday, and I think the Rogers breathing.
Speaker 4: I don't think it matters that they don't like each other.
Speaker 3: It's like the Bermuda triangle of success that could work
Speaker 3: out with the Las Vegas Raiders Pete Carroll, Tom Prady
Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers. And I think those who enter the
Speaker 3: Bermuda triangle of the Raiders, I think you could get
Speaker 3: tangled up in something nasty.
Speaker 4: It's good take.
Speaker 5: I do think it matters to them, especially to Rise,
Speaker 5: because it's like he's looking for quality of life.
Speaker 11: He has nothing to prove it's done.
Speaker 5: I've done everything, I have all the money, i have
Speaker 5: all the legacy, Like I want a great fit and
Speaker 5: a perfect spot. And it's like they it could work
Speaker 5: and the fans could want them, but like Rogers has
Speaker 5: to want to be there.
Speaker 11: So it's not only the Brady thing. Just think that's
Speaker 11: a piece of it.
Speaker 5: I think it's mostly like the Raiders probably won't be
Speaker 5: very good, and what am I doing? And then there's
Speaker 5: this whole DeVante Adams thing where like we all just
Speaker 5: kind of assume that he wants to play with DeVante,
Speaker 5: and there's this bizarre thing about could they bring DeVante
Speaker 5: back to the Raiders after it was a bizarre deal. Listen,
Speaker 5: of course it's fun to see Carol and Brady and Rodgers,
Speaker 5: and I just don't think it'll happen. And I just
Speaker 5: don't think Rodgers is into it. And I listen, I
Speaker 5: don't report this. I just go with my gut in
Speaker 5: my history. It maybe will be sitting here him like
Speaker 5: Rogers to the Raiders. I just don't think so well.
Speaker 3: And again I always don't know rereel like that your gut,
Speaker 3: you have said that you think he's you think he
Speaker 3: should be done playing like you hope that he said.
Speaker 4: His last nap.
Speaker 8: And that's what we said yesterday was that, you know,
Speaker 8: watching Aaron Rodgers when I was growing up, you want
Speaker 8: to see him leave on a high, right, And I
Speaker 8: agree with Kull a little bit.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's Vegas.
Speaker 8: But the reason that makes me think this can happen
Speaker 8: is because Pete Carroll's going to be seventy four years
Speaker 8: old this year, right, and he said he's a young
Speaker 8: seventy four. I just don't see him going and getting it.
Speaker 8: And I don't know, sam Donold had a great year.
Speaker 8: Is he going to continue to develop that way? Or
Speaker 8: are they going to go get a rookie quarterback in
Speaker 8: the draft and not waste Pete Carroll's years but have
Speaker 8: time to you know, hopefully this quarterback developed. And then
Speaker 8: I don't know if people.
Speaker 5: What's Pete's goal is like, let's get our let's get
Speaker 5: our bleep together, and like, wouldn't it be cool if
Speaker 5: we made the wildcard round that like they make the playoffs,
Speaker 5: that's great. So let's say they bring in Rodgers and
Speaker 5: do it, and they make the playoffs and then Rogers
Speaker 5: is forty two and he's like I think I'm done,
Speaker 5: I got hurt again, or I'm old, and then he's
Speaker 5: gone and then we are just starting over again and
Speaker 5: we have to get another quarterback.
Speaker 7: So like the Jets thing with Rogers.
Speaker 11: Was let's win the super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Now we got to win now, it's there's no like,
Speaker 5: let's get things started with Rogers and then we'll have
Speaker 5: to change again.
Speaker 11: It's just it's another thing doesn't fit for me.
Speaker 7: We're just got a lot of money.
Speaker 9: Though, if they wanted to go all in to win
Speaker 9: right now, to kind of blank them picks, I mean,
Speaker 9: you could with him at quarterback and say in two years,
Speaker 9: we'll start over anyway, but we're starting over as champion.
Speaker 3: You don't think Kyle that Like they could build something
Speaker 3: around him around to Rogers, build up a team, build
Speaker 3: up your offensive line, like make your trenches great, and
Speaker 3: then it is easier to interchange a quarterback and in
Speaker 3: two years.
Speaker 5: But then are you drafting like because then it's it's
Speaker 5: neo fight. We have no idea if he's good, it's
Speaker 5: just the Raiders made their own bed. It's I think
Speaker 5: Pete Carroll is brought into being an adult, and I
Speaker 5: love the Pete higher too.
Speaker 7: He too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, okay, so we're bringing Pete Carroll back.
Speaker 5: Your coach is seventy four quarterbacks forty two, Like.
Speaker 4: What are we doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean like at some point, like we got
Speaker 5: to start fresh for something, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And you think that, you think they go to Jordan
Speaker 8: Love route and bring Rogers in and he knows we're
Speaker 8: going to get a young player that they develop under
Speaker 8: you for the next two three years and then set
Speaker 8: us up for success. I mean, it's happened before, and.
Speaker 7: And I asked Jordan Love.
Speaker 11: This screw is something. I don't think Raiders fans are
Speaker 11: clamoring for Rogers.
Speaker 7: I know, I don't not now.
Speaker 11: It's a myth.
Speaker 9: But you might like him in December. You may hate
Speaker 9: him now. You may hate him now in September, like
Speaker 9: Raider fans, I don't like him, I don't like Rogers,
Speaker 9: but by December you may wind up loving the guy
Speaker 9: because he can still play, he can still help, you know.
Speaker 4: I agree? I agree?
Speaker 5: Yeah, guy, We're also like again, this is not you
Speaker 5: don't bring Rodgers in a vacuum. This is not insert
Speaker 5: quarterback here. This is a cultive personality, a massive media deal,
Speaker 5: a whole thing.
Speaker 7: You know that, like the Jets just went through that.
Speaker 5: It's not that's just part of the thing of bringing
Speaker 5: in Rodgers to change your whole identity as a company.
Speaker 11: And I think that's also something again.
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders need a new identity in certain
Speaker 3: spots of their organization, and I think it would fit
Speaker 3: in Vegas because it is a circus in and of itself.
Speaker 5: I mean, we've said with the same conversation about New
Speaker 5: York City, got perfect New York City.
Speaker 3: We saw him on Broadway and we saw him going
Speaker 3: to the next games and making it to Rios like
Speaker 3: it worked in moments like that.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what if Max Crosby was a GM,
Speaker 8: he already be a Raider, Max working, you got, you
Speaker 8: got a.
Speaker 9: He tactic raider. He's a renegade. This is what they
Speaker 9: used to be.
Speaker 12: Yeah, good football.