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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Cowboys wide receiver Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 4: You just heard his name.

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Speaker 3: He is an integral part of the Cowboys offense. He

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Speaker 3: restructured his contract.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: He was asked by a fan on x why he

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Speaker 3: did it, to which he replied.

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Speaker 4: I want to win.

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Speaker 3: It's going to take more than just myself. So let's

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Speaker 3: talk about the Cowboys. They currently there's their new head coach.

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Speaker 3: They currently have the NFC's longest streak of brutal strip

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Speaker 3: writing not appearing in a conference championship game, Kyle, So

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Speaker 3: they can thank the commanders for that one. What is

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Speaker 3: it going to take for the Cowboys to once again

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Speaker 3: lift up their fan base and make some noise in

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Speaker 3: the NFC East in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 2: Kyle?

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Speaker 3: I know you just love this question so much. Your

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Speaker 3: heart is growing three times bigger as I ask it.

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Speaker 5: I do, yes, like the Grinch, but that's the opposoite this.

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Speaker 5: It's an exciting time to be a Cowboys fan. Actually,

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Speaker 5: the expectations are low. There's a new coach, there's a

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Speaker 5: new future, and what are the Cowboys need to do. Guys,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to really impress you here. This is a

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Speaker 5: twenty dollars bill. This is my per diem I get

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Speaker 5: from the network. Okay, the Cowboys have literally millions of these.

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Speaker 6: What you want to do is.

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Speaker 5: You want to take them, hand them to young athletes

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Speaker 5: in exchange for goods and services. Okay, don't burn it,

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Speaker 5: invest it, spend it.

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Speaker 4: For the love of.

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Speaker 5: God, you can't take it with you, Jerry. We know

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Speaker 5: what happened last year. They were the lowest spenders in

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Speaker 5: free agency by far. They had barely half of what

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Speaker 5: the next lowest spenders did.

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Speaker 7: They just sat there.

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Speaker 5: And they hoarded it all, and then they had a

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Speaker 5: terrible season and extended their streak of not even making

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Speaker 5: it to a title game.

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Speaker 6: Let's look at the history, though. You think this is

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Speaker 6: the year free agents, let's go.

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Speaker 7: Let's let me make splashes.

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Speaker 5: In the last fifteen years, fifteen years else Cowboys have

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Speaker 5: signed one free agent who made a Pro Bowl. That

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Speaker 5: free agent was Brian Anger.

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Speaker 6: Guys, he plays punter.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 5: Fifteen years Pro Bowl free agent punter. This is in

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Speaker 5: the now post Saquon era, in which their arch rival

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Speaker 5: just won the Super Bowl. I have signed a free

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Speaker 5: agent two thousand and seven. Then you have to go

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Speaker 5: back to Leonard Davis as a free agent you want

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Speaker 5: to look in for a free agent home run. He

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Speaker 5: played four of his seven contract years and he's a

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Speaker 5: guard before now you have to go to Tara Loans

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Speaker 5: and guys. That's like I'm just getting out of college

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Speaker 5: at this point.

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Speaker 6: This is how long we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: As we see these fans who just watched the damn

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Speaker 5: Eagles win the Super Bowl and the Commanders have a

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Speaker 5: dream season.

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Speaker 6: Jerry, let's go.

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Speaker 5: He has told this show that he said in his

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Speaker 5: Jerry Charms that my hand doesn't cramp.

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Speaker 6: Up when I write checks. Well, maybe we should check out.

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Speaker 5: I think maybe Jerry might need some elector lights or

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Speaker 5: like some bananas or something like that, because.

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Speaker 7: The hand is cramping.

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Speaker 5: And if you didn't do it last year, and you

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Speaker 5: haven't signed a Pro Bowl free agent since a punter,

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Speaker 5: what are we waiting for?

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Speaker 6: The Cowboys? Are this elderly person.

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Speaker 7: In your life?

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Speaker 5: Do you know one who they're terrified to spend any

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Speaker 6: You're like, you've saved your whole life. We checked the finances.

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Speaker 6: You're good, You're comfortable.

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Speaker 5: No, I just I think I should just stay here

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Speaker 5: it alone, and he's right, go fight fire with fire.

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Speaker 5: And I can't believe I have to tell the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: It will work, give it a try.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So a couple of weeks ago, Cowboys executive vice president

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Speaker 8: I think that's a great approach to the off season.

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Speaker 8: Now they've already started doing that a little bit. They

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Speaker 4: A little bit money. But I'm with Kyle. I think

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Speaker 8: But where they need to spend it is in house

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Speaker 8: instead of going to free agency. You need to keep

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Speaker 8: that look like. Well, they already did one of those things.

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Speaker 8: Osa Odiggi zoo wall I love that. Four years eighty

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Speaker 8: million very well. Deserve a great d tackle DeMarco Farr.

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Speaker 8: He is a problem up front.

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Speaker 8: Disruptive player, and if you're a defensive tackle, that's the

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Speaker 4: You need Miles Garrett, you need TJ. Watsh.

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Speaker 8: You need some of the best defenders in football on

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Speaker 4: My opinion, one of their top priority guys.

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Speaker 8: He's been there for a couple of years. They drafted

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Speaker 8: him back in twenty seventeen. He's a homegrown guy. But

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Speaker 8: they need to keep him around. He hasn't had a

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Speaker 8: and Lewis. In my opinion, I'm with Kyle on the Commanders.

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Speaker 8: Just playing the NFC Championship game against Eagles. Two of

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Speaker 8: to be in a rebuild.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 8: If I'm the Cowboys, We're seven and ten and we

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Speaker 8: they had some injuries. But it just feels like every

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Speaker 8: the fans are starting to get tired.

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Speaker 4: They want to turn that corner.

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Speaker 8: Why are the Commanders in the NFC Championship and we're

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Speaker 4: This is a huge offseason for the.

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Speaker 3: Dallas Okay, are you going to sit here right now

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Speaker 3: and say that, Oh so Digazoa, Jordan Lewis and Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 3: Those paying those guys, that's what's going to have you

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Speaker 4: That's going to be it.

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Speaker 3: It's not going wide receiver. You're thinking selectively aggressive implies

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Speaker 8: That's where you start. Michael Parsons one of the best

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Speaker 8: players in football. Oh so Diggy's a younger player who's

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Speaker 8: just going to keep getting better. And then Jordan letis

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Speaker 8: But I think it's so important, And Kyle said they've

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Speaker 4: Free agents and none of them are really panning out.

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Speaker 8: Focus in house and then let's go branch out and

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Speaker 8: go find some guys in free agency.

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Speaker 4: They can help us.

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Speaker 3: With Marko, I feel like we're in the upside down

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 9: I was thinking about it, right I was really thinking

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Speaker 9: that's tough. But I mean looking at Jerry two things.

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Speaker 9: Number One, I think the Cowboys are the most valuable

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Speaker 7: And he's a good actor. It was awesome. He was

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Speaker 9: But thinking about Dallas moving forward, you're right, I'm glad

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Speaker 7: Outside of Mahomes or any of the.

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Speaker 7: He really is.

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Speaker 9: He can line up absolutely anywhere, he can rush from anywhere,

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Speaker 7: Just as well. So and I like what he said.

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Speaker 9: I know Max Crosby just you know, set the market,

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Speaker 9: be effective. That's not what he's after. He's after wins.

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Speaker 9: He's after championship. So anyway you can figure out to

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Speaker 9: get Dak Prescott over the hump, Dak puts up numbers.

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Speaker 9: I like Dak Prescott, don't you? And everybody does. The

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Speaker 9: guy can absolutely play. Why he hasn't gotten farther than

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Speaker 9: he has is beyond me. But I do look at

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Speaker 9: this at Brian Schottenheimer getting his shot to be the

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Speaker 9: Cowboys coach. I know shoddy shot. He's a good man,

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Speaker 9: he's a good dude, and he's a fantastic coach. We're

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Speaker 9: gonna find out if he can be a head coach.

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Speaker 9: I think he's in the right spot.

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Speaker 7: We'll see.

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Speaker 9: He's got a lot of pieces to work with. He's

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Speaker 9: got Ceedee lamb, he's got Dak. Like I just mentioned,

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Speaker 9: they're not that far away. The problem is Philadelphia is

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Speaker 9: what happens with the Cowboys, And I'm with you. I

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Speaker 9: bet that fan base is getting restless. But it's the

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Speaker 9: Cowboys they're going to be there every single Sunday.

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Speaker 8: And the commanders are only getting better, right, They're going

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Speaker 8: to keep getting They're going to get more skilled.

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Speaker 7: I'm a lifelong Cowboy fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 10: My text chains are filled with many bad words about

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Speaker 10: But if you sign Parsons, which you absolutely have to do,

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Speaker 10: you're looking at another huge deal. How many top premiere

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Speaker 7: I don't understand it.

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Speaker 4: It's a great point.

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Speaker 8: They're one of the teams that's going to heavily benefit

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Speaker 4: To undred and eighty million. But I'm with you.

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Speaker 8: If you want to have star players, you can only

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Speaker 9: I am with Kyle, though it's weird that we're trying

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Speaker 7: That's weird. Are they not?

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Speaker 10: Like, where are they in the salary in the overall?

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Speaker 3: They were showing I know the exact number after the.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, why do we think they're not doing their job?

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Speaker 7: It's guys.

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Speaker 5: One of them is actually saying on social media, we're

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Speaker 5: right now, you got to bring new people to the party.

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Speaker 5: If they go through this free agency and do the

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Speaker 5: I just you actually get accusatory with them. You're like,

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Speaker 5: want to make money? Like what are you doing? Go

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Speaker 5: you tried, but take some damn swings, let's go.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like they're at selectively aggressive yet, I

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Speaker 4: Well year before they were all just aggressive aggressive. Why

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Speaker 2: They do this.

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Speaker 3: They do this at the trade deadline, like good, We're

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Speaker 3: going to say everybody, We're going to sign everybody.

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Speaker 2: The Kers do it?

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Speaker 4: Why are you all in two years ago over there?

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Speaker 8: Yea, that was there, and they spend the least amount

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Speaker 8: a lot of heads scratching and in confusing.

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Speaker 4: With that.

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Speaker 2: Good money football, good mon football.

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Speaker 3: Browns general manager Andrew Berry did not waiver on his

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Speaker 3: trading all pro pass rusher Miles Garrett Kyle, despite Miles

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Speaker 3: I would like out of Cleveland this. I called it

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Speaker 4: He's like, it doesn't feel awkward to me. I'm still

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Speaker 11: I wonder why Peter said that.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 5: We'll asking when he's back. I don't think Miles Garrett's

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Speaker 5: playing for the Browns. I don't really, I don't not

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Speaker 5: he's our best player, he's maybe the top three player

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Speaker 5: to address one thing. I was reading a lot about

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Speaker 5: with them. And there's this pushback about, like, you know,

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Speaker 5: an edge rusher, Like have you ever seen Miles Garrett

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Speaker 7: Like what are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: You could bring up all the guys in this year's draft,

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Speaker 6: None of them are Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 5: These are great players right here, they're not Miles Garrett's

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Speaker 7: He is put it this way.

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Speaker 5: You know how good you have to be to win

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Speaker 6: And to say this I'm number.

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Speaker 4: One, and no, that's fine, as you been to one

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Speaker 7: I'm the guy, so that runs to me.

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Speaker 5: With due respect to the guys coming out or other

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Speaker 7: TJ.

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Speaker 5: Watt wasn't that guy. That guy is that guy. I

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Speaker 5: know Cleveland wants to hold on to him. I think

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Speaker 5: he's determined to leave. Don't think you can get anything

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Speaker 7: Pete said it wasn't awkward.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I said, wow, Peter, this seems awkward. We're

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Speaker 3: say like, no, that guy's playing for us next year.

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Speaker 4: I deemed it awkward.

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Speaker 3: Peter said it wasn't because he's just he was convinced

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Speaker 3: something out, and that how you couldn't let Miles Garrett

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Speaker 7: Makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 9: I get both sides now, because if you're Cleveland, you

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Speaker 7: He's one of the best players we've ever seen.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he's almost a guarantee, a lock for double

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Speaker 7: He is just that guy.

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Speaker 9: So I understand the other side of him, and I

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Speaker 9: you know, try to get out of there if you

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Speaker 9: So I get for Miles Garrett's coming from. I want

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Speaker 9: to go someplace where I can win, where this stuff

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Speaker 9: where it actually gets, you know, put to the forefront.

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Speaker 9: He is, like I said, the pre eminent player in

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Speaker 9: Just walked in and it's so funny. His shoulders couldn't

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Speaker 8: I was in Cleveland his rook in the year when

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Speaker 8: specimens I've ever been around in my entire life, and

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Speaker 8: story for me. It really is, because it's completely two

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Speaker 4: I want to be traded. Fast forward to the combine.

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Speaker 8: Then you have Andrew Berry, the general manager, come out

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Speaker 8: And then you have Kevin Stefanski reiterate that and say,

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Speaker 8: And the thing that worries me is that Miles Garrett

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Speaker 8: I want X amount of dolts I want I want

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Speaker 8: I believe you're starting your rebuild.

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Speaker 4: If you're the Browns thirty and fourteen a year ago.

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Speaker 8: If you let your best player walk away trying to

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Speaker 7: What do you get for him? Yeah, that's the question.

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Speaker 4: You can get anything you want right now in this fall.

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Speaker 8: You're committing to a rebuild, saying that we know we're

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Speaker 8: not going to get there because they're not competitors right now.

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Speaker 8: They really aren't. This is a huge offseason for the Browns.

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Speaker 8: They have the number two overall pick outside of the Saints.

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Speaker 4: Andrew Berry is.

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Speaker 8: Gonna have to jump a lot of hurdles when it

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Speaker 8: I just don't know how they can keep Miles Garrett

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Speaker 7: Nowhere to go on, you nail it.

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Speaker 5: If there's money problems, you can fix them. We'll figure

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Speaker 5: it out, get someone to adjust it.

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Speaker 6: Fine.

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Speaker 5: He said that this past season was worse than ZHO

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Speaker 6: Can you imagine going to work there?

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Speaker 5: And there's this whole Deshaun Watson thing that you've gone through,

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Speaker 5: I'm deep in my career. I've never won squat. I

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Speaker 6: I don't live here anymore.

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Speaker 3: In the statement, it was I want to go from

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Speaker 3: and my career goals in his like Hall of Fame pursuit.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a very specific direction that he wants

442
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Speaker 3: to do. I'm a conspiracy theorist. I think that ownership

443
00:16:25,308 --> 00:16:27,348
Speaker 3: GM coach, they are going to say he is not

444
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Speaker 3: going anywhere, to drive up the price and to see

445
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Speaker 3: what they would get for Miles Garrett, because I think

446
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Speaker 3: somebody would want a.

447
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Speaker 4: Bad Land and I don't care what you have.

448
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Speaker 9: He's better. Yeah, I would trade anything to get me Garrett.

449
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

450
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Speaker 7: Yes.

451
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Speaker 5: Anytime we let our self think about landing spots every.

452
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Speaker 6: Time you're like, oh God, no, he's gonna go to Philly.

453
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Speaker 5: Oh it's terrifying. Like it's almost like we can't have

454
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Speaker 5: that happens. It's like, you know, David Stern, like nullifying trades.

455
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Speaker 7: Wait we can ye fair.

456
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Speaker 5: I mean this is like to the Lakers, like we

457
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Speaker 5: can't have Miles Garrett in a Philadelphia get a Miles

458
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Speaker 5: Garrett in anywhere.

459
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Speaker 3: The one move for Miles Garrett with everything that that

460
00:17:00,668 --> 00:17:02,908
Speaker 3: team would have to give up, would be parallel to

461
00:17:02,948 --> 00:17:05,148
Speaker 3: the Rams and how they did all those things with

462
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Speaker 3: the picks a couple of years ago in order to win.

463
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Speaker 7: I hope it's out of the West.

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Speaker 8: To Jamie's point, though, it gets to the situation of

465
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Speaker 8: do we keep Miles Garrett he's not happy and we

466
00:17:15,948 --> 00:17:17,788
Speaker 8: know he doesn't want to be here, or do we

467
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Speaker 8: pull the trigger on a trade and try to figure

468
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Speaker 8: out the situation now, Because like I said, I just

469
00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:23,588
Speaker 8: and not a lot of fund memories in Cleveland, but

470
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Speaker 8: I love the fans, I love the city. You know,

471
00:17:25,468 --> 00:17:27,868
Speaker 8: they treated me well. I want to see them be successful.

472
00:17:27,868 --> 00:17:29,228
Speaker 8: I want to see him when I think Miles Garrett

473
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Speaker 8: has to be a part of that picture but if

474
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Speaker 8: he doesn't want to be there, I.

475
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Speaker 9: Bet they don't blame the point because eventually he's going

476
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Speaker 9: to have to come back and play. Yeah, he is,

477
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Speaker 9: because he's on a Hall of Fame type career and

478
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Speaker 9: you've got to play.

479
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Speaker 5: Keep those their logic in trading, taking the huge king's

480
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Speaker 5: ransom of picks and rebuilding your team, which you need

481
00:17:45,548 --> 00:17:46,508
Speaker 5: to do otherwise you.

482
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Speaker 6: Keep a fantastic defensive end.

483
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Speaker 5: I get he's a great player, but you can spend

484
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Speaker 5: that stuff and the real building blocks and the quarterback

485
00:17:53,188 --> 00:17:53,548
Speaker 5: and all.

486
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Speaker 4: That, and that's a huge jumpstart to the rebuilding.

487
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Speaker 3: So I have and they've had him, and they even

488
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Speaker 3: having him, they haven't won the way he has wanted to,

489
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Speaker 3: or frankly, the way the organization probably wants to with

490
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Speaker 3: him in the building. So he's great, but they got

491
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Speaker 3: to do something, and I'm still calling it awkward. Third down,

492
00:18:09,108 --> 00:18:11,188
Speaker 3: here's a look at Lancer. I will not take any

493
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Speaker 3: other word to Marco. Here's a look at Lancer lines

494
00:18:13,668 --> 00:18:16,068
Speaker 3: mock draft two point zero. We're already onto the second

495
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Speaker 3: version in mock drafting season. He has the Browns taking

496
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Speaker 3: Colorados Heisman Trophy winner Travis Hunter after the Titan selects

497
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Speaker 3: Abdul Carter number one overall.

498
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Speaker 4: Let's do this ourselves.

499
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Speaker 3: Who should the Browns take with the second overall pick.

500
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Speaker 3: We'll start with the former Brown himself, Cody Kessler.

501
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Speaker 8: Obviously, the Browns need a quarterback, and it's pretty consistent.

502
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Speaker 8: And obviously, I know there's some different mock drafts out there,

503
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Speaker 8: but a lot of people think they're going to take

504
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Speaker 8: a quarterback at number two. I'll say this, if you're

505
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Speaker 8: not one hundred percent sure, if you're not one hundred

506
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Speaker 8: and ten percent sure that the quarterback you're taking is

507
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Speaker 8: the future of your franchise for at minimum the next

508
00:18:51,828 --> 00:18:54,868
Speaker 8: five to seven years, do not make that pick. You

509
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Speaker 8: Just because a team needs a quarterback doesn't mean you

510
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Speaker 8: have to take a quarterback.

511
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Speaker 4: And I feel like that happens a.

512
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Speaker 8: Lot in drafts, to where teams feel like, well, this

513
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Speaker 8: is the top guy and we need a quarterback, let

514
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Speaker 8: me take him, or feel like, you know, this is

515
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Speaker 8: the next best quarterback available and we need a quarterback,

516
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Speaker 8: so let's pick a quarterback.

517
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Speaker 4: You don't have to do that.

518
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Speaker 8: There's a lot of very talented players at the top

519
00:19:12,548 --> 00:19:14,228
Speaker 8: of this draft board, right and I'm fine with either

520
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Speaker 8: one with the Browns. If they take Abdul Carter and

521
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Speaker 8: he's still there or Travis Hunter and he's still there,

522
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Speaker 8: I'm completely fine with those two picks. All I'm going

523
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Speaker 8: to say is if you're not fully sold on the quarterback,

524
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Speaker 8: you don't have to take him, because if the Browns

525
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Speaker 8: take the wrong guy at quarterback, they are going to

526
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Speaker 8: set their franchise back for multiple years. They can't miss

527
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Speaker 8: again on the quarterback. And that's why I say for

528
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Speaker 8: Andrew Berry, this is his most important offseason as a

529
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Speaker 8: general manager for the Browns.

530
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Speaker 7: We think just thinking what else is in the room?

531
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Speaker 9: Because I'm thinking how to build a football team and

532
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Speaker 9: I have to go out there and take snaps in September.

533
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Speaker 9: So what else am I going to trot out there?

534
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Speaker 9: If I don't take a quarterback high? I'm asking, like,

535
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Speaker 9: who's in the room, Like, we need someone to take some.

536
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Speaker 4: Money in free agency? Get a guy, or.

537
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Speaker 9: I could take a young guy that I like or

538
00:19:56,628 --> 00:19:59,708
Speaker 9: kind of like in cam Ord and say, let's see, now,

539
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Speaker 9: I get you.

540
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Speaker 7: It's a high pick and it's.

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Speaker 9: There's risk involved. But what else am I go to

542
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Speaker 9: put on the field? I need someone to take back?

543
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Speaker 7: Man?

544
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Speaker 9: There's a good chance that the guy may actually pan out.

545
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Speaker 9: He was a really good college player. Of all the

546
00:20:12,348 --> 00:20:14,308
Speaker 9: quarterbacks in the draft, I think I like him the best.

547
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Speaker 9: I think he is game ready right now. So I

548
00:20:16,868 --> 00:20:19,668
Speaker 9: wouldn't hesitate if I'm Cleveland to take a quarterback, especially

549
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Speaker 9: if I needed one.

550
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Speaker 5: And you know, Cody's point is, I get it, but

551
00:20:23,908 --> 00:20:26,268
Speaker 5: don't take the wrong quarterback just for the sake of

552
00:20:26,268 --> 00:20:29,228
Speaker 5: taking a quarterback you knew is you find a Jamis

553
00:20:29,268 --> 00:20:31,428
Speaker 5: type and you put them out there and you try

554
00:20:31,468 --> 00:20:33,548
Speaker 5: your best, and maybe you go six and eleven in

555
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Speaker 5: the quarterback next year?

556
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Speaker 6: What kills me?

557
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Speaker 5: What kills me if a Browns fan is like, of course,

558
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Speaker 5: we have the second overall pick in the non quarterback draft.

559
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Speaker 6: We couldn't have taken Jason Daniels last year, couldn't we could.

560
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Speaker 4: Have taken Drake.

561
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Speaker 6: Maybe they were coming out.

562
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Speaker 5: Of our ears last year, right outside the top of anybody.

563
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Speaker 7: But this is what Miles Garrett's talking about.

564
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Speaker 9: Okay, So you're going to keep waiting to rebuild and

565
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Speaker 9: I'm just I'm putting in Hall of Fame numbers and

566
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Speaker 9: we keep losing. You know, if you're going to keep

567
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Speaker 9: doing this I'm out, so it makes sense, right, Yeah, I.

568
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Speaker 3: Think they should sign a quarterback and free agency and

569
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Speaker 3: take the best athlete at that spot. And even if

570
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Speaker 3: you trade back a couple and get another first round

571
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Speaker 3: pick or another second round pick.

572
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Speaker 2: Build your team.

573
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Speaker 3: It's not just about one guy. And again we've seen

574
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Speaker 3: that with Miles Garrett.

575
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Speaker 4: One guy can't win you football games.

576
00:21:14,868 --> 00:21:17,748
Speaker 3: Quarterback can't, if an edge rusher can't with Miles Garrett,

577
00:21:17,788 --> 00:21:19,748
Speaker 3: you got to build the entire team best athlete on

578
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Speaker 3: the board.

579
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Speaker 5: I actually don't hate Donald in Cleveland. That's what I'm

580
00:21:23,708 --> 00:21:25,868
Speaker 5: And when you talk about free agents, I like the

581
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Speaker 5: pairing there. I feel like Stefanski and O'Connell have a

582
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Speaker 5: lot in common, and you know, they don't have the

583
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Speaker 5: weapons that the Vikings do and they don't play in

584
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Speaker 5: the dome. It's not ideal, but I don't hate Donald

585
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Speaker 5: in Cleveland.

586
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Speaker 11: How much for Donald, I mean probably a lot.

587
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Speaker 4: That's what we keep hearing.

588
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Speaker 12: Yeah, good football, good football.

589
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Speaker 3: We had Max Crosby on the show about a month

590
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Speaker 3: or two ago in January, and it was really fun

591
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Speaker 3: having him on because Max would say a single word

592
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Speaker 3: a certain direction in the studio and everyone onlines like

593
00:22:04,868 --> 00:22:05,548
Speaker 3: what's the Easter egg?

594
00:22:05,548 --> 00:22:06,228
Speaker 4: Where is he going to go?

595
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Speaker 3: When Max Crosby speaks, people listen, and yesterday on The

596
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Speaker 3: Rush podcast, he said this about Aaron Rodgers, a now

597
00:22:14,148 --> 00:22:15,188
Speaker 3: free agent quarterback.

598
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Speaker 4: Quote, I think.

599
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Speaker 3: This year fully healthy, full off season. My prediction is

600
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Speaker 3: he's going to have a great year. He being Aaron Rodgers,

601
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Speaker 3: I think he's going to have a big year, and

602
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Speaker 3: I hope it's in our town.

603
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Speaker 2: Our town.

604
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Speaker 3: Crosby still under contract with the Raiders, although there is

605
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Speaker 3: some restructuring efforts. I'm sure that is taking place with

606
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Speaker 3: the star defensive player Cody big time takeaway from Max

607
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Speaker 3: Crosby effectively giving a pitch for Aaron Rodgers to come

608
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Speaker 3: to Vegas.

609
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Speaker 4: I agree.

610
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Speaker 8: Now, I don't know if he's going to be in

611
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Speaker 8: Las Vegas, but I think Rogers can still play a

612
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Speaker 8: high level if he's on the right team.

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Speaker 4: Right.

614
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Speaker 8: But you got to look back at what his demands were.

615
00:22:48,628 --> 00:22:50,268
Speaker 8: He said he wanted to play somewhere or it was

616
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Speaker 8: warm weather, right, let's check for Vegas. But he also

617
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Speaker 8: said he wants to go to a contender, a team

618
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Speaker 8: that can win. I don't know if Las Vegas is

619
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Speaker 8: quite there yet right now that They do have a

620
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Speaker 8: lot of money to spend their second and salary cap

621
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Speaker 8: behind the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Right, so they can go out there and get some pieces.

623
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Speaker 8: They're gonna have to pay quarter if they do, so

624
00:23:05,148 --> 00:23:06,988
Speaker 8: that'll take a little bit of a hit, but overall,

625
00:23:07,028 --> 00:23:08,988
Speaker 8: they have money to spend and go get guys.

626
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Speaker 4: Another thing too, though, is do the Raiders.

627
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Speaker 8: Value Aaron Rodgers more than they value Sam Dharmer or

628
00:23:14,548 --> 00:23:16,588
Speaker 8: a guy that's maybe a little bit younger that still

629
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Speaker 8: has some more to play, you know, or a Kirk Cousins,

630
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Speaker 8: another veteran that's out there, or they value a guy

631
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Speaker 8: in the draft right now, and they're keeping the cards

632
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Speaker 8: close to their chest with that six overall pick, and

633
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Speaker 8: then they go out and get a veteran that's a

634
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Speaker 8: backup and allow a rookie to go play.

635
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Speaker 4: So I think there's so many question marks with this.

636
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Speaker 8: But like I said, last year, Rodgers had thirty nine

637
00:23:31,188 --> 00:23:34,228
Speaker 8: hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns, only eleven interceptions on a

638
00:23:34,268 --> 00:23:36,948
Speaker 8: team that started falling apart right. They struggled throughout the

639
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Speaker 8: rest of the year and then they had, you know,

640
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Speaker 8: a change.

641
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Speaker 4: At the head coach.

642
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Speaker 8: If they fired their head coach fire, their GM, all

643
00:23:41,388 --> 00:23:43,868
Speaker 8: these different things falling apart, and he still played pretty decent.

644
00:23:43,908 --> 00:23:45,548
Speaker 8: So I think if he does go to Vegas and

645
00:23:45,588 --> 00:23:47,788
Speaker 8: they can build some pieces around him, he can have

646
00:23:47,788 --> 00:23:49,188
Speaker 8: a chance to come back and play. I don't know

647
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Speaker 8: if he's gonna get quite back to where he's been before,

648
00:23:51,308 --> 00:23:52,628
Speaker 8: but I think he can still produce at a very

649
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Speaker 8: high level.

650
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Speaker 4: I like Max doing it.

651
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Speaker 11: I like Max picking up for the Raiders because I

652
00:23:55,828 --> 00:23:58,308
Speaker 11: like Max on the Raiders. I don't see Rodgers going

653
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Speaker 11: to the Raiders. Let's haven't rely seen this movie before.

654
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Speaker 5: You go to an AFC team that has struggled for

655
00:24:03,988 --> 00:24:06,908
Speaker 5: a long time to find a quarterback, who's hungry, who

656
00:24:06,948 --> 00:24:09,068
Speaker 5: has some nice weapons, and they have some money to spend.

657
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Speaker 4: We just saw this two years ago.

658
00:24:10,708 --> 00:24:13,868
Speaker 5: The Raiders have a lot of the same stink on

659
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Speaker 5: them that the Jets have had. This is not some

660
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Speaker 5: perennial winner. This is not a team that is in

661
00:24:18,828 --> 00:24:19,948
Speaker 5: the playoffs every year.

662
00:24:20,148 --> 00:24:20,908
Speaker 7: It's Roger.

663
00:24:20,948 --> 00:24:23,588
Speaker 5: If you're Rogers, you're not going for one final season

664
00:24:23,668 --> 00:24:26,308
Speaker 5: twenty one, so you can go six and eleven to

665
00:24:26,348 --> 00:24:27,908
Speaker 5: get your head kicked in as a Raider at the

666
00:24:27,948 --> 00:24:30,148
Speaker 5: end of the season. That's not what it's about. And

667
00:24:30,188 --> 00:24:32,148
Speaker 5: that's why personally, I think Rodgers.

668
00:24:31,988 --> 00:24:33,508
Speaker 11: Is really interested in the Rams, because rams are the

669
00:24:33,548 --> 00:24:34,908
Speaker 11: opt there right, rams are going places.

670
00:24:35,028 --> 00:24:35,988
Speaker 4: Never mind the LA thing.

671
00:24:36,068 --> 00:24:38,388
Speaker 5: Just sing the Rams are very good, and they're good

672
00:24:38,428 --> 00:24:42,828
Speaker 5: every single year. Not to mention, you think Rogers wants

673
00:24:42,868 --> 00:24:45,228
Speaker 5: to jump into the NFC West and like go against

674
00:24:45,228 --> 00:24:47,428
Speaker 5: Mahomes and lose to him and all the things they

675
00:24:47,468 --> 00:24:49,468
Speaker 5: have gone. I just it doesn't seem like a if

676
00:24:49,468 --> 00:24:52,508
Speaker 5: you're planning like one final like sweetheart year at the

677
00:24:52,588 --> 00:24:54,708
Speaker 5: end of a Hall of Fame career, this sounds terrible.

678
00:24:54,908 --> 00:24:55,868
Speaker 7: I really do think it does.

679
00:24:56,028 --> 00:24:57,748
Speaker 5: Not to mention, and I said this before, and I'm

680
00:24:57,748 --> 00:24:59,748
Speaker 5: trying to be a diplomatic here. I don't think Aaron

681
00:24:59,828 --> 00:25:01,788
Speaker 5: Rodgers and Tom Brady are best friends, and I don't

682
00:25:01,788 --> 00:25:03,748
Speaker 5: think they hate each other's I just don't think that

683
00:25:03,788 --> 00:25:07,148
Speaker 5: they're boys. That's my intuition, and that's a little bit

684
00:25:07,188 --> 00:25:09,428
Speaker 5: of my insight that I know for a fact not

685
00:25:09,468 --> 00:25:13,628
Speaker 5: only not best friends. Rogers is not Darnold. He is

686
00:25:13,868 --> 00:25:16,908
Speaker 5: a god. He is a legend. Brady is a god.

687
00:25:16,948 --> 00:25:17,748
Speaker 4: He's a legend.

688
00:25:17,828 --> 00:25:21,828
Speaker 5: There's egos involved, there's legacies involved, and there's things involved

689
00:25:21,828 --> 00:25:23,908
Speaker 5: where I don't know if Aaron Rodgers wants to be

690
00:25:23,948 --> 00:25:27,428
Speaker 5: Tom Brady's little project as a new owner. There's something

691
00:25:27,508 --> 00:25:29,948
Speaker 5: going on there, a big picture that I don't think

692
00:25:29,988 --> 00:25:32,348
Speaker 5: would go well for number eight in the Jets right there,

693
00:25:32,468 --> 00:25:35,428
Speaker 5: number twelve for the Raiders. There's everything about it that

694
00:25:35,548 --> 00:25:38,508
Speaker 5: to not like A couple things to like, Sure, we

695
00:25:38,548 --> 00:25:40,588
Speaker 5: love Pete Carroll, who knows if that'll work. Sure we

696
00:25:40,628 --> 00:25:43,228
Speaker 5: love some of the talent I can't ever see. You're

697
00:25:43,268 --> 00:25:44,708
Speaker 5: in Rogers corner. You're like, you know you should do

698
00:25:44,748 --> 00:25:46,988
Speaker 5: Man for your last year. Let's go to the Raiders

699
00:25:47,028 --> 00:25:50,188
Speaker 5: because they're always good. Like it sounds like like one

700
00:25:50,188 --> 00:25:52,028
Speaker 5: of the worst ideas in the history of bad ideas.

701
00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:52,908
Speaker 11: I don't like it at all.

702
00:25:52,948 --> 00:25:54,108
Speaker 7: I am kicking myself.

703
00:25:54,148 --> 00:25:56,628
Speaker 9: I should have said Rogers Brady Reality Show.

704
00:25:56,908 --> 00:25:59,908
Speaker 7: Now, that would be fascinating. We'd watch that all day.

705
00:26:00,428 --> 00:26:03,268
Speaker 9: The other thing, Leaving Las Vegas was a great movie,

706
00:26:03,308 --> 00:26:05,108
Speaker 9: so this could be the same thing for Aaron Rodgers.

707
00:26:05,228 --> 00:26:07,308
Speaker 5: Leaving Las Vegas, Like the guy just drinks himself to death.

708
00:26:07,348 --> 00:26:09,108
Speaker 5: It's a terribly depressing movie and it could end the

709
00:26:09,108 --> 00:26:09,468
Speaker 5: same way.

710
00:26:09,508 --> 00:26:10,148
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.

711
00:26:10,148 --> 00:26:12,428
Speaker 9: If you go there, but I just I'll look at

712
00:26:12,468 --> 00:26:15,908
Speaker 9: it this way, Aaron Rodgers is not what he was fair.

713
00:26:16,228 --> 00:26:18,708
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, yes, four time MVP, but he's no bum.

714
00:26:18,988 --> 00:26:20,948
Speaker 9: I think he's good enough to win with and with

715
00:26:21,068 --> 00:26:23,108
Speaker 9: Pete Carroll there, I get you that kind of I

716
00:26:23,148 --> 00:26:25,268
Speaker 9: wouldn't say it's good deodorant for the stink that was

717
00:26:25,308 --> 00:26:27,988
Speaker 9: coming out of Vegas, for what was that franchise. I

718
00:26:27,988 --> 00:26:30,468
Speaker 9: think he will change. That's the smartest move they've made

719
00:26:30,468 --> 00:26:32,588
Speaker 9: in years. So they're headed in the right direction. You

720
00:26:32,628 --> 00:26:35,108
Speaker 9: could do a lot worse than him. The only question

721
00:26:35,188 --> 00:26:36,868
Speaker 9: I have, and I've never lived in Vegas. I don't

722
00:26:36,868 --> 00:26:38,268
Speaker 9: know a lot of people that live there. I don't

723
00:26:38,308 --> 00:26:42,188
Speaker 9: know how the Rogers drama plays out with their fan base,

724
00:26:42,508 --> 00:26:44,548
Speaker 9: and most of their fan base travels in anyway.

725
00:26:44,628 --> 00:26:46,948
Speaker 7: So I think if you give greater fans.

726
00:26:46,668 --> 00:26:49,028
Speaker 9: Some hope that they can compete with Kansas City in

727
00:26:49,068 --> 00:26:51,788
Speaker 9: the West, I think they could ignore the distraction. Aaron

728
00:26:51,868 --> 00:26:54,028
Speaker 9: Rodgers versus Sam Darnold. This is what I would love

729
00:26:54,068 --> 00:26:55,708
Speaker 9: to be a GM, But this is why I would not.

730
00:26:56,068 --> 00:26:57,868
Speaker 9: I think I would go with the old guy over

731
00:26:57,908 --> 00:27:00,028
Speaker 9: the young guy because I think I trust him more.

732
00:27:00,188 --> 00:27:01,468
Speaker 7: But either way, I think he's.

733
00:27:01,308 --> 00:27:03,948
Speaker 9: Still playing and I like that Max Crosby as just

734
00:27:04,108 --> 00:27:05,788
Speaker 9: like Les Garrett is calling the shot.

735
00:27:05,868 --> 00:27:08,228
Speaker 7: I want him, I want out. I love it. The

736
00:27:08,268 --> 00:27:09,708
Speaker 7: guys aren't staying silent totally.

737
00:27:09,748 --> 00:27:10,668
Speaker 4: DeMarco Kyle.

738
00:27:10,708 --> 00:27:13,388
Speaker 3: There's not many things that I listen to you talk

739
00:27:13,428 --> 00:27:15,108
Speaker 3: and I say here and I respect what you have

740
00:27:15,148 --> 00:27:17,268
Speaker 3: to say, and like, I really really disagree with you

741
00:27:17,308 --> 00:27:19,508
Speaker 3: on this one. And it's like a natural disagreement that

742
00:27:19,628 --> 00:27:20,628
Speaker 3: is coming.

743
00:27:20,348 --> 00:27:20,948
Speaker 4: To the surface.

744
00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:23,308
Speaker 3: I think, haven't you ever worked with anybody that you're

745
00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:25,308
Speaker 3: just straight up not friends with? But it works like

746
00:27:25,388 --> 00:27:27,868
Speaker 3: it actually just comes out on the product and it

747
00:27:27,988 --> 00:27:30,388
Speaker 3: like it tracks like I think this could be a thing.

748
00:27:30,428 --> 00:27:32,388
Speaker 3: I think, no matter if Rogers and Tom Brady don't

749
00:27:32,468 --> 00:27:34,828
Speaker 3: like each other, I actually think that what those two

750
00:27:34,948 --> 00:27:38,788
Speaker 3: like better is building something that's successful in winning and

751
00:27:38,908 --> 00:27:41,668
Speaker 3: leaving their legacy to your point, on a great note.

752
00:27:41,748 --> 00:27:43,348
Speaker 3: And do I think Rogers is going to end his

753
00:27:43,428 --> 00:27:43,908
Speaker 3: career on.

754
00:27:43,868 --> 00:27:44,548
Speaker 6: A Super Bowl win?

755
00:27:44,668 --> 00:27:45,028
Speaker 4: I don't.

756
00:27:45,068 --> 00:27:47,828
Speaker 3: Did Brady? He did not either. I think if they

757
00:27:47,908 --> 00:27:50,868
Speaker 3: sign Aaron Rodgers, you are doing something better than you

758
00:27:50,908 --> 00:27:53,828
Speaker 3: could with Sam Donald, which is you are acknowledging that

759
00:27:53,868 --> 00:27:55,588
Speaker 3: you're not in it. Sam Donald's going to come and

760
00:27:55,628 --> 00:27:57,188
Speaker 3: want like a five or six year career with you,

761
00:27:57,228 --> 00:27:59,508
Speaker 3: a ten year career with you. Rogers knows that this

762
00:27:59,628 --> 00:28:01,668
Speaker 3: is towards the end of it. If you sign Aaron

763
00:28:01,748 --> 00:28:05,028
Speaker 3: Rodgers in Las Vegas, you can take every single draft

764
00:28:05,028 --> 00:28:07,308
Speaker 3: pick that you have and focus on the rest of

765
00:28:07,348 --> 00:28:09,828
Speaker 3: your team, which is what the Raiders need to do.

766
00:28:10,108 --> 00:28:10,668
Speaker 2: If you are.

767
00:28:10,588 --> 00:28:12,668
Speaker 3: Distracted by the shiny object in the room, which is

768
00:28:12,668 --> 00:28:15,468
Speaker 3: trying to draft a quarterback and a non quarterback draft year,

769
00:28:15,668 --> 00:28:17,828
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders are setting themselves back. I think

770
00:28:17,908 --> 00:28:21,268
Speaker 3: Rogers is a great fit. I think personality wise, he

771
00:28:21,388 --> 00:28:23,908
Speaker 3: has Raider nation all over him. Kind of You called

772
00:28:23,948 --> 00:28:27,668
Speaker 3: him petty competitive yesterday, and I think the Rogers breathing.

773
00:28:27,828 --> 00:28:29,788
Speaker 4: I don't think it matters that they don't like each other.

774
00:28:29,868 --> 00:28:33,068
Speaker 3: It's like the Bermuda triangle of success that could work

775
00:28:33,108 --> 00:28:35,748
Speaker 3: out with the Las Vegas Raiders Pete Carroll, Tom Prady

776
00:28:35,868 --> 00:28:38,148
Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers. And I think those who enter the

777
00:28:38,188 --> 00:28:41,188
Speaker 3: Bermuda triangle of the Raiders, I think you could get

778
00:28:41,228 --> 00:28:42,748
Speaker 3: tangled up in something nasty.

779
00:28:42,948 --> 00:28:43,628
Speaker 4: It's good take.

780
00:28:44,108 --> 00:28:47,148
Speaker 5: I do think it matters to them, especially to Rise,

781
00:28:47,468 --> 00:28:49,508
Speaker 5: because it's like he's looking for quality of life.

782
00:28:49,628 --> 00:28:51,748
Speaker 11: He has nothing to prove it's done.

783
00:28:51,868 --> 00:28:53,748
Speaker 5: I've done everything, I have all the money, i have

784
00:28:53,788 --> 00:28:55,908
Speaker 5: all the legacy, Like I want a great fit and

785
00:28:55,948 --> 00:28:58,828
Speaker 5: a perfect spot. And it's like they it could work

786
00:28:58,868 --> 00:29:00,868
Speaker 5: and the fans could want them, but like Rogers has

787
00:29:00,908 --> 00:29:01,988
Speaker 5: to want to be there.

788
00:29:02,388 --> 00:29:04,708
Speaker 11: So it's not only the Brady thing. Just think that's

789
00:29:04,708 --> 00:29:05,148
Speaker 11: a piece of it.

790
00:29:05,228 --> 00:29:07,148
Speaker 5: I think it's mostly like the Raiders probably won't be

791
00:29:07,308 --> 00:29:09,668
Speaker 5: very good, and what am I doing? And then there's

792
00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:11,868
Speaker 5: this whole DeVante Adams thing where like we all just

793
00:29:11,948 --> 00:29:13,868
Speaker 5: kind of assume that he wants to play with DeVante,

794
00:29:13,908 --> 00:29:16,548
Speaker 5: and there's this bizarre thing about could they bring DeVante

795
00:29:16,628 --> 00:29:18,948
Speaker 5: back to the Raiders after it was a bizarre deal. Listen,

796
00:29:18,988 --> 00:29:21,788
Speaker 5: of course it's fun to see Carol and Brady and Rodgers,

797
00:29:21,908 --> 00:29:23,508
Speaker 5: and I just don't think it'll happen. And I just

798
00:29:23,548 --> 00:29:25,748
Speaker 5: don't think Rodgers is into it. And I listen, I

799
00:29:25,788 --> 00:29:28,068
Speaker 5: don't report this. I just go with my gut in

800
00:29:28,148 --> 00:29:30,148
Speaker 5: my history. It maybe will be sitting here him like

801
00:29:30,228 --> 00:29:32,388
Speaker 5: Rogers to the Raiders. I just don't think so well.

802
00:29:32,468 --> 00:29:34,188
Speaker 3: And again I always don't know rereel like that your gut,

803
00:29:34,228 --> 00:29:36,908
Speaker 3: you have said that you think he's you think he

804
00:29:36,948 --> 00:29:39,148
Speaker 3: should be done playing like you hope that he said.

805
00:29:39,268 --> 00:29:39,868
Speaker 4: His last nap.

806
00:29:40,068 --> 00:29:41,788
Speaker 8: And that's what we said yesterday was that, you know,

807
00:29:41,908 --> 00:29:43,668
Speaker 8: watching Aaron Rodgers when I was growing up, you want

808
00:29:43,668 --> 00:29:45,348
Speaker 8: to see him leave on a high, right, And I

809
00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:46,508
Speaker 8: agree with Kull a little bit.

810
00:29:46,468 --> 00:29:47,268
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's Vegas.

811
00:29:47,308 --> 00:29:49,348
Speaker 8: But the reason that makes me think this can happen

812
00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:51,028
Speaker 8: is because Pete Carroll's going to be seventy four years

813
00:29:51,028 --> 00:29:52,388
Speaker 8: old this year, right, and he said he's a young

814
00:29:52,468 --> 00:29:54,668
Speaker 8: seventy four. I just don't see him going and getting it.

815
00:29:54,708 --> 00:29:56,268
Speaker 8: And I don't know, sam Donold had a great year.

816
00:29:56,428 --> 00:29:58,188
Speaker 8: Is he going to continue to develop that way? Or

817
00:29:58,188 --> 00:29:59,708
Speaker 8: are they going to go get a rookie quarterback in

818
00:29:59,748 --> 00:30:02,548
Speaker 8: the draft and not waste Pete Carroll's years but have

819
00:30:02,548 --> 00:30:04,908
Speaker 8: time to you know, hopefully this quarterback developed. And then

820
00:30:04,948 --> 00:30:05,788
Speaker 8: I don't know if people.

821
00:30:07,948 --> 00:30:09,988
Speaker 5: What's Pete's goal is like, let's get our let's get

822
00:30:09,988 --> 00:30:12,348
Speaker 5: our bleep together, and like, wouldn't it be cool if

823
00:30:12,348 --> 00:30:14,268
Speaker 5: we made the wildcard round that like they make the playoffs,

824
00:30:14,268 --> 00:30:15,988
Speaker 5: that's great. So let's say they bring in Rodgers and

825
00:30:16,028 --> 00:30:18,188
Speaker 5: do it, and they make the playoffs and then Rogers

826
00:30:18,228 --> 00:30:19,708
Speaker 5: is forty two and he's like I think I'm done,

827
00:30:19,748 --> 00:30:21,228
Speaker 5: I got hurt again, or I'm old, and then he's

828
00:30:21,268 --> 00:30:23,508
Speaker 5: gone and then we are just starting over again and

829
00:30:23,548 --> 00:30:24,908
Speaker 5: we have to get another quarterback.

830
00:30:24,988 --> 00:30:27,628
Speaker 7: So like the Jets thing with Rogers.

831
00:30:27,268 --> 00:30:28,788
Speaker 11: Was let's win the super Bowl.

832
00:30:28,988 --> 00:30:31,948
Speaker 5: Now we got to win now, it's there's no like,

833
00:30:32,028 --> 00:30:34,628
Speaker 5: let's get things started with Rogers and then we'll have

834
00:30:34,628 --> 00:30:35,308
Speaker 5: to change again.

835
00:30:35,388 --> 00:30:36,988
Speaker 11: It's just it's another thing doesn't fit for me.

836
00:30:36,988 --> 00:30:38,028
Speaker 7: We're just got a lot of money.

837
00:30:38,068 --> 00:30:39,708
Speaker 9: Though, if they wanted to go all in to win

838
00:30:39,788 --> 00:30:42,908
Speaker 9: right now, to kind of blank them picks, I mean,

839
00:30:42,948 --> 00:30:45,628
Speaker 9: you could with him at quarterback and say in two years,

840
00:30:45,668 --> 00:30:48,708
Speaker 9: we'll start over anyway, but we're starting over as champion.

841
00:30:49,068 --> 00:30:51,628
Speaker 3: You don't think Kyle that Like they could build something

842
00:30:51,708 --> 00:30:54,308
Speaker 3: around him around to Rogers, build up a team, build

843
00:30:54,388 --> 00:30:57,308
Speaker 3: up your offensive line, like make your trenches great, and

844
00:30:57,348 --> 00:31:00,428
Speaker 3: then it is easier to interchange a quarterback and in

845
00:31:00,468 --> 00:31:01,268
Speaker 3: two years.

846
00:31:01,388 --> 00:31:04,268
Speaker 5: But then are you drafting like because then it's it's

847
00:31:04,548 --> 00:31:06,468
Speaker 5: neo fight. We have no idea if he's good, it's

848
00:31:06,468 --> 00:31:08,868
Speaker 5: just the Raiders made their own bed. It's I think

849
00:31:08,948 --> 00:31:10,708
Speaker 5: Pete Carroll is brought into being an adult, and I

850
00:31:10,748 --> 00:31:11,668
Speaker 5: love the Pete higher too.

851
00:31:11,708 --> 00:31:12,028
Speaker 7: He too.

852
00:31:12,148 --> 00:31:14,908
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, okay, so we're bringing Pete Carroll back.

853
00:31:14,908 --> 00:31:17,708
Speaker 5: Your coach is seventy four quarterbacks forty two, Like.

854
00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:18,388
Speaker 4: What are we doing?

855
00:31:18,508 --> 00:31:20,548
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean like at some point, like we got

856
00:31:20,588 --> 00:31:22,148
Speaker 5: to start fresh for something, right.

857
00:31:22,228 --> 00:31:22,468
Speaker 7: Yeah.

858
00:31:22,548 --> 00:31:24,028
Speaker 8: And you think that, you think they go to Jordan

859
00:31:24,068 --> 00:31:26,148
Speaker 8: Love route and bring Rogers in and he knows we're

860
00:31:26,148 --> 00:31:27,828
Speaker 8: going to get a young player that they develop under

861
00:31:27,908 --> 00:31:29,468
Speaker 8: you for the next two three years and then set

862
00:31:29,548 --> 00:31:34,188
Speaker 8: us up for success. I mean, it's happened before, and.

863
00:31:32,948 --> 00:31:34,068
Speaker 7: And I asked Jordan Love.

864
00:31:34,148 --> 00:31:36,748
Speaker 11: This screw is something. I don't think Raiders fans are

865
00:31:36,748 --> 00:31:37,788
Speaker 11: clamoring for Rogers.

866
00:31:37,868 --> 00:31:39,308
Speaker 7: I know, I don't not now.

867
00:31:39,348 --> 00:31:39,828
Speaker 11: It's a myth.

868
00:31:39,988 --> 00:31:42,068
Speaker 9: But you might like him in December. You may hate

869
00:31:42,108 --> 00:31:43,908
Speaker 9: him now. You may hate him now in September, like

870
00:31:43,988 --> 00:31:45,868
Speaker 9: Raider fans, I don't like him, I don't like Rogers,

871
00:31:45,908 --> 00:31:48,028
Speaker 9: but by December you may wind up loving the guy

872
00:31:48,428 --> 00:31:50,348
Speaker 9: because he can still play, he can still help, you know.

873
00:31:50,388 --> 00:31:51,108
Speaker 4: I agree? I agree?

874
00:31:51,188 --> 00:31:53,108
Speaker 5: Yeah, guy, We're also like again, this is not you

875
00:31:53,108 --> 00:31:55,548
Speaker 5: don't bring Rodgers in a vacuum. This is not insert

876
00:31:55,628 --> 00:31:59,108
Speaker 5: quarterback here. This is a cultive personality, a massive media deal,

877
00:31:59,308 --> 00:31:59,828
Speaker 5: a whole thing.

878
00:32:00,108 --> 00:32:01,828
Speaker 7: You know that, like the Jets just went through that.

879
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Speaker 5: It's not that's just part of the thing of bringing

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Speaker 5: in Rodgers to change your whole identity as a company.

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Speaker 11: And I think that's also something again.

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Speaker 3: I think the Raiders need a new identity in certain

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Speaker 3: spots of their organization, and I think it would fit

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Speaker 3: in Vegas because it is a circus in and of itself.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we've said with the same conversation about New

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Speaker 5: York City, got perfect New York City.

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Speaker 3: We saw him on Broadway and we saw him going

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Speaker 3: to the next games and making it to Rios like

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Speaker 3: it worked in moments like that.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what if Max Crosby was a GM,

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Speaker 8: he already be a Raider, Max working, you got, you

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Speaker 8: got a.

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Speaker 9: He tactic raider. He's a renegade. This is what they

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Speaker 9: used to be.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, good football.