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Speaker 1: For our number three of the Drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio and ESPN nine to seventy are live ongoing

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Speaker 1: coverage here from Saint Vincent College and met It is

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Speaker 1: time for he is Matt Williamson. By the way, it's

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Speaker 1: time for the Fantasy Football Focus, and today I thought

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Speaker 1: we'd do take a look at the Dynasty rookie rankings.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's right at my alley, right up your alley.

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Speaker 1: And so if you've got the number one pick in

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Speaker 1: your dynasty rankings.

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Speaker 2: I assume this is not super flex.

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Speaker 1: No, we can't do super flexing. This is just overall standard.

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Speaker 1: Jean Robinson clear far and away the number.

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Speaker 2: One, far and away, far and away. I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: a prospect come into the league that was sought after

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Speaker 2: more in the dynasty world, with the exception of maybe

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. Like when Barkley got drafted, he was going

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Speaker 2: over almost every running back and Bejon's the same way

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Speaker 2: that right now in dynasty he is the most valuable

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Speaker 2: running back in the whole league and is not yet

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Speaker 2: played a snap.

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Speaker 1: Now, explain to people here, Son, in a dynasty league,

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Speaker 1: your team is the same from year to year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the only draft that you get is these rookies.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. That's it. Basically you get five rounds,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of times by the fifth rounds that

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Speaker 2: you've already washed. You don't even have roster space. A

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Speaker 2: lot of times you don't even make those picks. But

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Speaker 2: over the course of the year, you make a lot

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Speaker 2: of trades and you pick up extra picks blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: And what's nice about it is if your season shot,

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Speaker 2: you start selling off your older guys to contenders for

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Speaker 2: draft picks, you get your youth menu.

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Speaker 1: Men, you do keep an eye on the college game

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Speaker 1: to say, okay, who guys going to be next year? So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you knew b Jeon Robinson was coming down the pike.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, And already people are digging into the

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Speaker 2: receivers and Rock Bowers. Is he going to go as

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Speaker 2: high as Kyle Pitts? You know? Did I mean? Kyle

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Speaker 2: Pitts was as high a tight end as you ever

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Speaker 2: see go in rookie drafts. So these rookie drafts, they've

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Speaker 2: they're they've all taken place. They usually happen right pretty

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Speaker 2: much after the NFL Draft is a real busy time

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Speaker 2: in dynasty. You know, after all these guys find homes

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Speaker 2: and whatnot. But their values changed consistently too, you know,

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Speaker 2: like guys got hurt or you know, are you still

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Speaker 2: as high on them as you were when you took them?

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Speaker 2: So I enjoyed a lot, and they're they're bigger rosters too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We have some news coming out of camps and things

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Speaker 1: of that name. Yeah, yeah, you know who's running with

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Speaker 1: the ones and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna start and he isn't, you know? Right?

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Speaker 1: The number two guy on here is Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty much the consensus too. Before the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 2: it was Gibbs versus Jackson Smith and the Jigba. But

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Speaker 2: Gibbs went higher in the first round that people thought

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Speaker 2: they got rid of de Andre Swift. They got rid

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Speaker 2: of the Andre Swift and Smith. The Jigba's spot wasn't

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Speaker 2: wonderful for a media playtime. He's at number three now,

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Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, he's at number three. Jordan Addison is

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Speaker 2: at number four. Okay. I prefer Quinton Johnston. I think

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Speaker 2: he's the better prospect. But what hurts Johnston, just like

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Speaker 2: with Nijigba, he's the number three on his team. Where

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Speaker 2: Addison should start. I mean, I would assume he's going

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Speaker 1: You could make the argument that Quentin Johnston, who's fifth

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's something absolutely to account for. Is is

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Speaker 2: the other thing about you know, smart dynasty players. This,

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Speaker 2: look at the that's what it's all about. That's what

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Speaker 2: it's all about. Go look at this the Chargers cap situation.

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Speaker 2: They have a ton invested in Mike Williams and Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 2: There's no way they bring both those guys back and

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Speaker 1: Be honored, neither to be back. And then all of

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Speaker 2: And really he's one injury away from being useful now,

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Speaker 1: Number six on this list is somewhat surprising, is QB one.

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Speaker 1: It's Anthony Richardson over the other guys who are drafted

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Speaker 2: Well, it's people might have noticed that listened to any

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Speaker 2: you know, they want the Hurts, they want the Allen

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Speaker 2: this year. He's going to play right off the bat.

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Speaker 2: He's going to run right off the bat. Whether he

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Speaker 1: Because two years from now he might not be a

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean frankly, going up to the draft, he

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Speaker 2: Bijon still goes one, which is rare. I mean almost

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Speaker 1: Two number seven on this list, and we're using a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is to be honest, most years the end

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Speaker 2: You know that you weren't the worst team in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you weren't the worst team in the league. You were first.

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Speaker 1: It kind of goes to show you though, as I'm

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Speaker 2: And again he's because it's a weaker class. A prospect

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Speaker 1: Number nine on this list is c. J. Stroud coming

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who would you rather have if you had to

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Speaker 2: Right, you know you would think they have a long

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Speaker 1: Is it eleven?

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Speaker 1: They sandwiched Zach sharbonnay as your as your RB three.

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Speaker 1: Number twelve is Kendra Miller with the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Guys at thirteen a chain.

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Speaker 2: No, I think no. I mean very few backs have

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Speaker 2: Says, the rushing attemps gonna be low. So all my

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Speaker 2: to go up in value. But overall, this is not

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Speaker 1: Fourteen is Marvin Mims junior.

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Speaker 2: This is that makes sense. That's a perfect example of

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Speaker 2: You know, so I still not thrilled to invest in

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Speaker 2: I didn't love this class.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen is tight end two. That is Sam.

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Speaker 2: Laporta, Okay, And there was some debate about that Washington

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Speaker 2: wasn't in this mix. Some people had Mayor over Laporta.

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Speaker 2: I was really high and still am on the Green

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Speaker 2: You know, like that gets frustrating. But Laporta's set up

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Speaker 2: long way. But still, how many to give you an

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Speaker 2: idea about dynasty? Like it's great in the off season.

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Speaker 2: This is a problem that all of us have in

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Speaker 2: the dynasty world. Like you sit there and you build

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Speaker 2: this wonderful twenty five man roster that's super young, and

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Speaker 2: want to check the box on Marvin Mims, pretty much

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Speaker 2: anyone you listed since Beijon. I mean close. I mean

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Sixteen is Rashawn Johnson. You mentioned he's in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen is Jonathan Mingo.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen is Michael Mayer in Las Vegas. Is tight end three.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen is Jaden Reid in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Twenty is RB seven. That is Tank Bigsby in Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Catches the ball better than you think. Had terrible blocking

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Speaker 1: Its high on him. He's in my top five rankings.

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Speaker 1: If he lasts four years in a dynasty league and

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's even a theory in dynasty to almost look

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Speaker 1: Twenty two is Rashi Rice in Kansas City. He's wide

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Speaker 2: And some people were screaming him up the board. I

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Speaker 2: just like sky Moore showed, I mean, rookie receivers really

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Speaker 1: Twenty three is good. We go to Indianapolis for Josh

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Speaker 2: I like him as well, It's just you would won

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I mean just a pure

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Speaker 2: I know. So his stock went down with his landing spot.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four is Jalen Hyatt with the Giants his wide

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get that too, But crowded room and

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Speaker 1: Twenty five is we go to Cleveland for wide receiver

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Speaker 1: eleven and Cedric Tillman.

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Speaker 2: See, he's the guy who've drafted much higher than that

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Speaker 2: with the thought I don't know if a Mari Coopers

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Speaker 2: could go past people's jones now and I think Elijah

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Speaker 1: Twenty six is Chase Brown. He is RB nine in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: If he's Mixing's direct backup, he has pretty good value. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't love Brown coming out, but I liked his

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven, if we finally get the QB before that

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Speaker 2: And you're gonna have to wait all year, and he's

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Speaker 1: If you wait all year, you're by week ten he

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Speaker 2: Right, And if in frankly like you to give you

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Speaker 1: Luke Muskgrave in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine is Tank Dell. That's wide receiver twelve.

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Speaker 1: Thirty is Michael Wilson in Arizona's wide receiver thirteen. There's

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Speaker 2: Of him exactly. I mean we liked him at the

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Speaker 2: special teams where there's there's Rondell Moore and the much

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Speaker 2: you can get a guy that's in a three receiver

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Speaker 1: Thirty one is RB ten.

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Speaker 2: That is Zach Evans and with the Rams, he's another

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Speaker 1: Thirty two is the former pit back Israel Abicanda.

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Speaker 2: And he's a speed guy. I was shocked that they

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Thirty three is Pooking the uh Cooking Pooka and

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Speaker 1: Thirty four is Dwayne McBride RB twelve in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: It's not except that you're gonna get and again there's

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Speaker 2: Sincaid and Scoon Maker Okay, saying yeah, nobody liked his

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Speaker 1: I like benefit from his usage though thus far. Right,

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Speaker 1: I like what I see there. I like the touchdown,

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Speaker 1: Here again, I could he have five touchdowns this year?

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Speaker 2: real quick. On Hooker. I meant to mention this before.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm just looking here.

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Speaker 1: I clicked on the super flex rankings. That changes it.

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Speaker 1: Bijon then Anthony richardson CJ. Stroud, Bryce Young, one, two,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that Stroud and Young are good enough

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Speaker 1: Levis comes in at twelve, and then you have to

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Speaker 1: That is super flex rankings on fantasypros dot Com for rookies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're rookie drafting here, maybe you haven't done yours yet.

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Speaker 1: There's a updated August sixth, by the way, so that's

438
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Speaker 1: pretty that's pretty current.

439
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Speaker 2: It is. They changed through our camp a lot with.

440
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, but that's going to do it for the

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Speaker 1: fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Now are going to take a break. We are live

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Speaker 1: from Steelers training camp here at Saint Fencent College on

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Speaker 1: ESPN nine seventy and Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

446
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Speaker 1: with more right after this. Are live ongoing coverage here

447
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Speaker 1: from Steelers training camp at Saint Fencing College on ESPN

448
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Speaker 1: nine seventy at Steelers Nation Radio and Matt the NFL

449
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Speaker 1: dot Com has finally gotten through they do. They string

450
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: this thing out so long. They do their top one

451
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Speaker 1: hundred players, but they released them ten at a time,

452
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Speaker 1: so waiting for them to kind of get this whole

453
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Speaker 1: thing together. Here, so we have the whole list here

454
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Speaker 1: now in front of us. This is the one voted

455
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Speaker 1: on by the players.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the one that they have the

457
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Speaker 2: show about and the highlights and it's a good production. Okay,

458
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, go quick though.

459
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Speaker 1: Let's roll through these. So one hundred is Devonte Smith,

460
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: ninety nine, DeMarcus Lawrence ninety eight, Tristan Wurf's that's a

461
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: fall of fifty.

462
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: Seven spot, what do you do wrong?

463
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: Maybe they look moving to left tackle? Yeah, ninety seven

464
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: is Harrison Smith still hanging on. Ninety six Trevor Lawrence.

465
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: Makes his debut.

466
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: Ninety five Jamal Williams.

467
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: No, come on, no, no, no, Yeah, just because he

468
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 2: had a million touchdowns, that doesn't mean no.

469
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: Ninety four Yeah, Terry McLaurin, ninety three, Eric Kendricks.

470
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 2: This stage is yeah, he's not sought after anymore.

471
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: Ninety two, Marlon Humphrey ninety one, Dalvin Cook gets down

472
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: sixty spots.

473
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Speaker 2: I don't think he'd make my top one hundred anymore.

474
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, moving on to ninety through eighty one, we have

475
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Speaker 1: at number ninety DeAndre Hopkins. That's a drop of fifty

476
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: three spots.

477
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has to be going backwards.

478
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: Eighty nine is Marshawn Lattimore. Eighty eight is Aiden Hutchinson.

479
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: That's still too early.

480
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wouldn't put him as a top ten edge

481
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 2: guy yet. I'd have I Smith ahead of him. They'd

482
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Speaker 2: be close. Yeah. I mean Hutchinson came on as he's

483
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: went on, but he wasn't special.

484
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: Eighty seven Chris Lindstrom. Really good here. Eighty six is

485
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: justin Fields. No ahead of Trevor Lawrence. No, No, come on, man.

486
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: I mean he does special things and he's hard to

487
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: play against, and you and I love them coming out

488
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: of Ohio State, but he's not a top ten quarterback. No.

489
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: Eighty five is Laramie Tunsel.

490
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 2: He's really good.

491
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: Eighty four is the Darius Smith.

492
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'll take that over Hutchinson.

493
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: Eighty three is to Run Armstead.

494
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: He's seen to stay in the field.

495
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Speaker 1: Eighty two is Tua I guess this is the Dolphins portion.

496
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

497
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Speaker 1: Eighty one is Christian Wilkins.

498
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 2: That is a Dolphins portion. Yeah.

499
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: Three in a row eighty through Seventy one eighty is

500
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. That's down forty eight spots.

501
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: I would have Kittle ahead of him. I'm sure Kelsey's

502
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: ahead of them.

503
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: Seventy nine is Dre Greenlaw.

504
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: Interesting that he got that publicity. I'm shocked he's there,

505
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 2: but he's a good player.

506
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Speaker 1: Seventy eight is Talana hafenga portion of this U. Seventy

507
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: seven is Gino Smith. Gino Smith ahead of Trevor Lawrence.

508
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Come on, man, yeah a little early. I need another

509
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: year of it.

510
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: Seventy six is Treek Wooln Okay, I'm not ready to

511
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: say that yet either.

512
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: That's Brookies are gonna be hard for me to throw

513
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: on there, kind of like the Hutchinson conversation.

514
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: Seventy five is Trey Hendrickson.

515
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about where he belongs. They extended him recently.

516
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: Seventy four is Garrett Wilson.

517
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I think he'll be much higher.

518
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: Seventy three is Buddha Baker. That's down six spots.

519
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

520
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: Seventy two is Lamar Jackson that's down thirty six spots.

521
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: I guess it's durability, but I would have him much higher.

522
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: Seventy one is the Forest Buckner that's down five spots

523
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: from a year ago.

524
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what i'd hold against Buckner

525
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: and Bucks are still really good. That team was just

526
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: okay to miss the game. I think he missed a.

527
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: Couple, speaking of which, Seventy is Joey Bosa that's down

528
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: forty spots from a here ago.

529
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: It's all reliability. That guy's on the field nearly enough.

530
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: Sixty nine Matt Mlano.

531
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad he got recognized. Sixty eight is Zach Martin Okay,

532
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: still still holding out, by the way, Yeah, he's paying

533
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: fifty grand a date.

534
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: Sixty seven is a mon Ross Saint Brown.

535
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he's got a year and a half

536
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: of Cooper Cup production. Yeah.

537
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: That's why I have a problem with who's next year

538
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: at sixty six, because that is Jared Goff on no planet.

539
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: Is Jared Goff better than Lamar Jackson or Trevor Laurna.

540
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: No, he had a good year. It's a nice store.

541
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: Come on, the players doing this right? You'd rather play

542
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: against golf than Lamar.

543
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: Sixty five is Darius Slay sixty four as Aaron Jones.

544
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: I didn't think he's still be in that realm, but

545
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad he is. He's a good player.

546
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Sixty three is Grady Jarrett.

547
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

548
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: Sixty two Bobby Wagner. It's a fall of thirty three spots.

549
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still hanging on, but a decent year.

550
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: Sixty one is Deebo Samuel. Let's down forty two spots.

551
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: But his thought he was too high that year after

552
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: all the carries and all that.

553
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously it has been nineteenth that's way toow.

554
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he was never that type of player.

555
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty down thirty seven spots. They just paid him

556
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: a boatload of money. Trayvon Diggs, They did give him

557
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: a ton of money, way too much money. He's a

558
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: bigger name than he is player.

559
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: To me.

560
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: Fifty nine up twenty two spots is Justin Simmons.

561
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's one of the best five safeties

562
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: in the league for sure, maybe number three.

563
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: This is the Simmons area because up next to a

564
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: fifty eight.

565
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: Is Jeffrey Sis very nice.

566
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: Fifty seven is Jordan Poyer down twelve spots.

567
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he's declining, but I guess that's still

568
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: some pretty good respect.

569
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: Fifty six is down twelve spots. That's Stack Prescott.

570
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 2: He should be Drake fifting down. I'm not worried about him.

571
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: Fifty five is Tony Pollard, okay. Fifty four up twenty

572
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: two spots is Brian Burns. At fifty three is Mike Evans.

573
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: At fifty two is Jonathan Allen. That's a rise of

574
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 1: thirty six spots.

575
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: You're talking about the defensive tackles. Okay for Washington. Yeah,

576
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: that's a really good front line.

577
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: Fifty one down forty eight spots, so he's number three.

578
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers.

579
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: Wow, it was a bad year.

580
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: It was a bad year for him.

581
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: But like the Sando quarterback tiers didn't sing him nearly

582
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: as much as the players players did. Yeah.

583
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: Right, At fifty up nineteen spots is Cam Jordan.

584
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: Why you go up? But whatever, I mean, he's highly respected.

585
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: He got a new contract to I mean, he's like

586
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: the Saints ring, he's kind of like the Saints. Cam Hayward,

587
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: to be honest with.

588
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: Your forty nine is Patrick's certain.

589
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: I think him and sast Garden are the two best

590
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: corners in the league.

591
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: Forty eight is Hassan Reddick.

592
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: Strong year, strong year, But I mean some of those

593
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: Eagles kind of inflate each other. Yeah.

594
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: Forty seven is down forty three spots Cooper Cup.

595
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: Not only he's any worse, but I mean, I guess

596
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: if you have to go back because one year ago

597
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: he's coming off the triple crown, right, you know.

598
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: Forty six is CJ. Flipping Moseley. Really, are you kidding me?

599
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he's a top hundred guy.

600
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Forty six and the Jets have like nobody just the

601
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: Jets voted on.

602
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: This, right, right, I mean that's a really good defense.

603
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 2: He's the leader of the defense. I mean he's not

604
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: as good as Roquander Warner. Milano is the last one

605
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: we've said. I think that he's died much of Milano.

606
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Rather have that drive Drake Greenlaw.

607
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: Drive green Law. Right, he's the second best linebacker's team.

608
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: Forty five is Cam Hayward. Okay, tell me which which

609
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: guy would you rather have?

610
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: Say, they're not close?

611
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: CJ. Mosley or Cam Hayward. Yeah, the Steelers would rather

612
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: It wouldn't.

613
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: Even be a question. Oh, of course, not even close.

614
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: D tackles are really good. So somebody think that's too

615
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: low for Cam. But when you said Simmons from the

616
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: Titans recently, like fifty eighth, yeah, I mean you can't

617
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: put them all in the top twenty, but there's five

618
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: or six really good D tackles. Forty four is Jaylen Long, okay.

619
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Forty three is to Mario Davis. I mean pretty lofty

620
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: for tomorrow.

621
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: That's pretty lofty. I'd have him, of course over Mosley though.

622
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: Forty two is Kirk Cousins. No, I had a Lamarr.

623
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: Forty one is Lame.

624
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: Cousins are tu Yeah yeah, out of dak over Cousins too. Yeah.

625
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Number forty then is Quinn and Williams.

626
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: Okay, another one of these great D tackles.

627
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I can put Quinn and

628
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: Williams over Cam.

629
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, him and Simmons and Cam to me are all yeah, yeah.

630
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Thirty nine the Jets are way too over value.

631
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: Here's my point. Yeah.

632
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: Here, thirty nine is Jamar Chase. That's down fifteen spots

633
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: for him.

634
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: Really, I don't know why you go backwards, but he

635
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: was Maybe they put the car before the Horse a

636
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: little bit early in his career.

637
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: Thirty eight Khalil Mack.

638
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: That's too high for Yeah, for what he's doing right now.

639
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: He could get back to that, but I bet he doesn't.

640
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: Thirty seven up thirty four spots is Jason Kelsey.

641
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I mean it's an all time

642
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: great center, come off Super Bowl appearance.

643
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: Thirty six down twenty seven spots Jayalen Ramsey, Yeah.

644
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: He never forgot. I would ascertain over him. Yeah.

645
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: Thirty five is Christian McCaffrey.

646
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: Sure.

647
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Thirty four up sixty one spots.

648
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: Seed Lamb, Hmm, I'm okay with it. I mean, I'm

649
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: not sure there's any receiver i'd have him over, like Waddle,

650
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: who recently mentioned that seems a little rich for Lamb.

651
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: Thirty three up nineteen spots Matthew Judon thirty third best

652
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: player in the league. Yeah, are you out of your minds?

653
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: No, he's a top hundred guy.

654
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he belongs on the top hundred five.

655
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: Thirty three right right, I don't get that.

656
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Thirty two up eight spots is Justin Herbert. Sure, thirty

657
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: one is Saquon Barkley.

658
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I wouldn't have him over McCaffrey. No. Yeah, McCaffrey's

659
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: more harder to play against, more of a weapon.

660
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: At thirty up thirteen spots is Derwin James.

661
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be a little high for Darwin though.

662
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he finally stayed healthy.

663
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah it was good.

664
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: Twenty nine is Nick Chubb.

665
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: Good. Chubb's the one back I'd consider putting over McCaffrey.

666
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: Twenty eight is Dexter Lawrence.

667
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: He had a great year. He had a great year.

668
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: He said.

669
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: His run stuff in grade earned him the second highest

670
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: grade A money among interior defenders at ninety one point six.

671
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: I believe it was Cam that was number one. Oh

672
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: really he had seven and a half sacks. Cam had

673
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: ten and a half, Like.

674
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: He plays a ton of snaps. I mean it's not

675
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: like he's out there only on two downs. I think

676
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: it was good.

677
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, good player.

678
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

679
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: Twenty seven down twenty one spots TJ.

680
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: Watt a little harsh, but I guess you got a Dingham.

681
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure these twenty six ahead of them are stars.

682
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: He's five spots ahead of Matthew Judah.

683
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: That's a good way to play there. Yeah.

684
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: Twenty six is jay r Alexander Okay.

685
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of forgot about him in the

686
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: top corners, but I guess i'd have him over Ramsey

687
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah.

688
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: Twenty five is Derrick Henry, that's down thirteen spots.

689
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: I would have him lower. I would have Chob over Henry.

690
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: Twenty four up sixty spots.

691
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: Rokwan Smith, I can see moving him up a lot.

692
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Tell me that he's a better player than teacher J

693
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: Wat them right right right.

694
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: Twenty three is Sauce Gardner. Yeah, come cool with it.

695
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: I think he's a special player. Twenty two a J. Brown. Fine.

696
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: I would have him over Lamb.

697
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: Twenty one is Austin Ekeler that's up twenty five.

698
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: I like the respect he finally gets. That guy gets.

699
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: He's Rodney Dangerfield.

700
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: That takes us into the top twenty. So he's gonna

701
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: be the top back Eckler maybe, Yeah.

702
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: I mean Henry's already gone, McCaffrey's gone, Trub's gone. Yeah,

703
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: I guess somebody will be.

704
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: At twenty down nine spots. Miles Garrett.

705
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean him verse what we could fight about

706
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: all day. But I mean they're both twenty guys.

707
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: At nineteen up three spots. George Kittle.

708
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he the blocking and it's just durability

709
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: with him. Yeah.

710
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: At eighteen Mika Fitzpatrick.

711
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: Wow, nice. I mean I knew the name was coming,

712
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't. I would have bet he ended up

713
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: later on the list than that. Yeah, top safety.

714
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: At seventeen up forty two spots. Max Crosby deserve it,

715
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: but better than TJ. Water Miles Garrett.

716
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: No, I think there's five great ones and he's number five.

717
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, uh six, I mink is probably the

718
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: number one d back. I would guess it has to

719
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: be almost. Yeah.

720
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Sixteen is a Stefan Diggs solid as could be thirty

721
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: two up I'm sorry. Fifteen up thirty two spots. Is

722
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: Fred Warner best line back? Yeah, he's the best line back.

723
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: Yah. Yeah.

724
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Fourteen is Trent Williams.

725
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: Sure, there's a rock solid. He could be one, and

726
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: i'd understand.

727
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: Thirteen is DeVante Adams down six spots.

728
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: I actually would have put his stock up. Is not

729
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: the number one back.

730
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: That is number twelve Josh Jacobs.

731
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean he had a tremendous year. The

732
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: look on your face on that was, I mean he's

733
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: a really good player and he finally gets some recognition,

734
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: but he's not a better player than t. J. Watt

735
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: let alone, Echoler, Chubb or McCaffrey. Yeah.

736
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: Eleven down nine spots Aaron Donald. Yeah, I mean he

737
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: didn't play a little for you know, right right right here.

738
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: But that means Chris Jones is gonna be ahead of him. Yeah.

739
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: Ten is Chris Jones. Okay, Chris Jones had thirty two

740
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: tackles last year. Really, he does nothing but rush the passer.

741
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: I think his defensive tackle position, they don't stop the run.

742
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: They don't even bother to stop the run.

743
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: I think Donald has to be the number one defense

744
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: tackle still, I mean he deserves a little more of

745
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: the respect than that.

746
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Number nine is Micah.

747
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Parsons, Okay, the only one. If he was one, I

748
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: would understand.

749
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: Number eight, well, eight is Josh Allen.

750
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean sure I would have Allen head of Borough.

751
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: But slightly.

752
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: Seven is Tyreek Hill. That's up eight spots, so.

753
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: He's playing number one receiver. No, Jefferson's still out there.

754
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. At six up fifteen spots is Borrow.

755
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean he's a top ten guy.

756
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: At five up five spots is Travis Kelce. Yeah, still

757
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: at four, up twenty one spots.

758
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: Is Nick Bosa Defensive Player of the Year? Is that

759
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: where TJ was last year? He was at six? He

760
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 2: was at six? Okay, at three?

761
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, No, I had a Burrow.

762
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I had a Allen. Not ahead of Allen,

763
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: not ahead of Borrow. Yeah, no, sorry, I mean I

764
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: can't put him over Aaron Donald or Trent will Trent Williams.

765
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: I mean, great story. He took his team in the

766
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I mean, I hope pick It turns in

767
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: to be as good as him. But he's not better

768
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: than those guys. No, he's not.

769
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: At number two is Justin Jefferson And at number one

770
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: is Patrick Mahomes.

771
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: That's up seven spots.

772
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: He was eighth last year.

773
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: Mahomes was. Yeah. Wow, I guess Rogers was coming off

774
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: the MVP. Yeah. How much is Jefferson up?

775
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: Jefferson was up fifteen spots.

776
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if you got that much respect to

777
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: your rio or not. Yeah, he did it phenomenal.

778
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: Interesting to note there are only three chiefs on the list,

779
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: and all three are listed in the top ten here. Yeah,

780
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey is not on there. Freed Humphrey did not

781
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: make the list.

782
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Try, I think what other Chiefs could go?

783
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Three Steelers too, Three Steelers three Chiefs.

784
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I get it. I mean their three

785
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: stars are strong.

786
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt about it. I don't, I don't.

787
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Chris Jones is a tremendous football player.

788
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh, he's a menace.

789
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: I would much rather have Lawrence Hayward. Again, there's four

790
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: or five defensive tackles that I probably would rather have

791
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: because they're more complete players and they play down in

792
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: and down out. Shones to me, is lazy or he

793
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: just saves it for his pass.

794
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 2: I think that's encouraged by the staff. But also that's

795
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 2: part of the reason it was the second round pick,

796
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: and on a top ten pick.

797
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: If Chris Jones weren't with the Chiefs.

798
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh, if he was a Texan, we wouldn't. He would

799
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: he would hit up his moments, of course, but he

800
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: couldn't shine like he is now.

801
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: He wouldn't be because all they said, you just go

802
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: get the quarterback. We're going to have a lead. You

803
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: just go get the quarterback. Don't worry about playing the

804
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: run or anything. Again, thirty two tackles last year.

805
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: He's about to become the highest paid defensive player and

806
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: even have two tackles a game, right, right, So real quick,

807
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, there were three Steelers.

808
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: Did Andrews make it from the ro Kwan andrews Lamar?

809
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: I think with three Burrow Chase, No, Higgins, Hendricks. Yeah,

810
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: only three Bengals. Three Bengals Chubb Garrett, that was it?

811
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh and uh uh the guy that just traded for

812
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: the edge rusher Zadarius Smith.

813
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot about him. Who know, like Potonio

814
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: though that people rave about.

815
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: Now, you're right, this was this was light on the

816
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman.

817
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: There was not a lot of guard like, not a

818
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: lot of guards and centers in there. Yeah, and light

819
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: on tackles too. Yeah, okay, so every team had three

820
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: in the division. Yeah that's right. Okay, so interesting.

821
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, the players voted on that that you know, yeah,

822
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: take that for what.

823
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: You what you in some ways that's great because I

824
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: lined up against that dude and he whipped my butt

825
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: time and time again.

826
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: But if I'm in the other if I'm in the

827
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: other conference, I see this guy once every four years, right,

828
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how good he is.

829
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: And you're not watching sitting around watching Red Zone all

830
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: day on Sunday, You're busy doing other stuff. You're a

831
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: little busy, right right.

832
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, anyways, we're gonna take another break. He is

833
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. We are live from

834
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: Steelers training camp here at Saint Vincent College, Steelers wrapping

835
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: up by training camp practice number eleven earlier today, and

836
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: we'll be back to finish up the show right after this. Well,

837
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: back on Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson. This is

838
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And then Matt real

839
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: quick here we get some news here. Jadavin Clowney visited

840
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens today.

841
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: I mean the uys. I love that highly inconsistent good

842
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: run stuff. Or I mean kind of all over the

843
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: place at this point.

844
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: But again, when I was talking earlier in the show

845
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: about you know, people in Baltimore raving about how their

846
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: their edge rushers looked in the spring, right, they're obviously

847
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: not happy with that.

848
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I would think not. And he's not a real

849
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: edge bender. He's more of like a just a straight

850
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: line yeah, straight line crash things you know, disruptor, but

851
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: I think their defensive front in general, or d line

852
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 2: in general is suspect. Yeah.

853
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles said in Tampa that the Baker Mayfield and

854
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Trash will each start a preseason game this year.

855
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get Baker Mayfield on Friday

856
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: where traushk. I've assume Mayfield starts the first one.

857
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: This screams going back and forth all year. Yeah, I

858
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: think you really have not here, but it might as

859
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: well play Trask. I mean when when it really is

860
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: a disaster. I think Mayfield's not even a high quality

861
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: backup anymore.

862
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna scare some fantasy people out there.

863
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: But but Jehan Robinson listed as the third string running back

864
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: on Atlanta's depth charts.

865
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've also heard he looks like a reincarnation of

866
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: Marshall Falk and Jim Brown ripped into one. So yeah,

867
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't worry too much.

868
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor excused from Colts camp, and they're having a

869
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, who visited New Orleans yesterday. Yeah, they're bringing

870
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: in a cream Hunt for a visit. That doesn't bode well.

871
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: This is setting up is not a good situation.

872
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: Well, I have no inside scoop whatsoever, but I think

873
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: he gets traded. I mean, they can't look at themselves

874
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: as a contender right now.

875
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's made a trade request and Jim

876
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Mercy is saying, no, we're not going to trade him.

877
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Speaker 1: But at some point you're just gonna look at this

878
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: and go, we gotta get something for.

879
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: This guy, and they will get something. I mean, this

880
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: is a good time in his career to trade him.

881
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's coming off some injuries, but

882
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: he's still a tremendous back. We just did the top

883
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: one hundred. I thought his name might pop up there. Certainly,

884
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: what of a year ago, and the people taking over

885
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: are Eagles disciples. You know, if you have Jalen Hurtz

886
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: or Anthony Richardson, I don't need a great running back.

887
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: You know, he's gonna be my short yards guy. You know,

888
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: the Bills haven't invested in running backs, the Ravens, the Eagles,

889
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, the Bears.

890
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: The problem is for a team trading for him, is

891
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna want a new deal. Oh, I know, you

892
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: gotta be willing to give him the new.

893
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: Deal, right, I mean it's the classic. It cost me

894
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: two things to acquire this play, right, you know, it's

895
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: not a good pick.

896
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be cheap.

897
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Saquon money.

898
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: Or he's gonna want ten million plus.

899
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 2: Maybe you settle at nine ish, you know. I mean

900
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: Saquon's a little more accomplished, but he's also a little older.

901
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's you're gonna try to factor that into

902
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: what you give up in a pick. But if you're

903
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: the culture, gonna say no, I'm not trading him for

904
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick.

905
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: I think it's a Day two pick, right, a second

906
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: or third. But if I'm the Bills or the Chiefs,

907
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm close, man, he would be a

908
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: nice piece.

909
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you.

910
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: But that's yeah, Yeah, it's a weird situation.

911
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: It's very dicey.

912
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a conditional pick next year if he gets

913
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: a thousand yards, you get a two and a five

914
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: or I don't know, I don't.

915
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: Know how you manage yet. But the fact that they're

916
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: bringing cream hunting to talk to him.

917
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: It's pretty telling.

918
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: That's telling.

919
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I don't know that Taylor's would be

920
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: there this year. He's not in camp. They told him

921
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: to go home, right, He just said.

922
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're what you can go. Just going through some

923
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: other stuff here. Clark Phillips, cornerback in Atlanta, is considered

924
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: day to day with a left leg injury. He was

925
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: carted off practice on the practice field today. Actually, he's

926
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: a draft pick this year out of.

927
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: Utah, Utah or Utah State Utah. Yeah, said day two pick.

928
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: I think slot corner only. I would think he's slated

929
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: the start with Torell and Akuda is the outside guys.

930
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: So we'll see what that is with that leg injury

931
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: for him. Down in Baltimore, Arthur Mallett, who they signed

932
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: former Steelers, dealing with the sore hamstring. John Harbaugh said

933
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Trey von Mullen is having toe surgery. Was expected to

934
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: be season ending for them.

935
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, real quick on Mallett. From what I understand, Hamilton

936
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: is going to move out of the slot and play

937
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: more of a traditional as well.

938
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's out for the year, so.

939
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: Okay, there's just more upheaval.

940
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: Their defense is in the set, Like if they're going

941
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: to start Arthur Mallett in the slot right and then

942
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: on much of an edge presence.

943
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't love their defense at all.

944
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: He's fine on early downs, But nobody ever said, yeah,

945
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: Arthur Mullets. They would always say, here, Arthur Mallets a

946
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: good first and second down Nickel.

947
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had a decent career here. I mean

948
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: he was useful, but he's the third down No, he's replaceable.

949
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: Ston would have been there in third down.

950
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: Name Hines underwent its successful ACL reconstruction surgery.

951
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: To this point we know is successful. Okay, he was

952
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: the jet ski accent.

953
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Demir Bird in Carolina dealing with a pretty significant

954
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. He's going to be out six to eight weeks.

955
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: How much you're counting on him though?

956
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Defensive end Isaiah Thomas in Chicago underwent arthur scroptic surgery.

957
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: The injury require multiple weeks of rehab with an expected

958
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: return early in the season. I mean he played a

959
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: little bit for them last year.

960
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean their the line is bad.

961
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: They also lost defensive end Alex Right. He underwent arthro

962
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: scroptic surgery on Tuesday, So it was a busy day

963
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: for their defensive lineman.

964
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: And they signed in Dockway like two or three days ago.

965
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Maze Smith not practicing in Dallas. He's getting an

966
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: MRI on his knee. He's been battling some tendonitis throughout

967
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: Camp's good.

968
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: Hopefully that's not a big deal because that's a guy

969
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: they're really counting on.

970
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: In Denver, Mike McGlinchey got rolled up in a nine

971
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: on seven period, walked off on his own with a trainer.

972
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: Justine simm is dealing with a groin injury. Former Steeler

973
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: Rashad Coward has signed with the Houston Texans.

974
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what happens with that.

975
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Speaker 1: And then finally, Tron Armstead in Miami is dealing with

976
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Speaker 1: the knee injury. He'll return to team drills on Wednesday.

977
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: According to Mike McDaniel, he's.

978
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: A tremendous player, but really, if you have you can

979
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Speaker 2: count on him for thirteen games a year. Absolutely.

980
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: One thing we can count on is that our show

981
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Speaker 1: will come to an end, and that is the case

982
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Speaker 1: at this point. So for my partner Matt Williamson, I

983
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Speaker 1: am Dale Lully. We thank you for agatting listening to

984
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Speaker 1: our ongoing coverage here live from Steelers training camp at

985
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: Saint Vincent College. We'll be back again tomorrow. Mike Tomlin

986
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: talking to the media tomorrow to preview the game on

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00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: Friday against the Yeah, so we'll get to that, but

988
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Speaker 1: that's going to do it for our show today and

989
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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you tomorrow