WEBVTT - Kevin Garnett!  Chicago All-Star Weekend

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<v Speaker 2>We needed to get this conversation started. Then I'm messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a Voice's.

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<v Speaker 2>Important people in the city. If it ends, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>bad for the kids here.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a lot to prove, and you always feel

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<v Speaker 3>like they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe in you.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you're painted as a bad guy in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes your emotions take control and eventually you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>turned into an aggression.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you gotta go through a storm to find some sunshine.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think piece is accomplished through war? Finish

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<v Speaker 2>a new fish? Thank good time playing it? Lion looked decimitation,

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<v Speaker 2>look fast, fucking loved it. I got a mass Damn

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<v Speaker 2>y'all born of the motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 5>I say something shit, say something man, mass sitness motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 2>Man say something like the cock up ship, go boring

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<v Speaker 2>ass show y'all, wake you ass up.

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<v Speaker 4>Shit, y'all gotta stop smoking indigo before noon. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>it is, y'all smoking too much indigo.

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<v Speaker 5>Here, I can go outside and find some mother motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 5>come here and make more noise in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. How y'all doing show? Shi wall the motherfucker smoke.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome y'all, man all start twenty twenty coming to you, lo.

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<v Speaker 4>This is our first live show, so we fuck up.

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<v Speaker 4>Just keep going with it, y'all on our first live show.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate y'all, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate you guys taking time to come hang out with

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<v Speaker 4>us today. We're just gonna have fun, talk shit, man,

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<v Speaker 4>to see you. My brother God were out here. The

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<v Speaker 4>hands are nice and fry.

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<v Speaker 2>You good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, shout out Sam. She got nice and dry.

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<v Speaker 2>And she just usually wet. Yeah twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>So we out here man, Like I said twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>All Stars Chicago, It's an honor to be out here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coach is motherfucker out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>It's stopped my smoking. Take if I got to smoke outside,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not smoking.

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<v Speaker 2>It will just no. I don't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>We just gonna limit the puffs six real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, get out.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, man, without further ado, Man, I want to

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<v Speaker 4>introduce to me one of the greatest power forwards ever to.

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<v Speaker 3>Play the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's an honor to have him or he went

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<v Speaker 4>to high school coming back out here and fuck with us.

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<v Speaker 4>So man, So everyone welcome Kevin Garnett.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on? Man? Thank you brothers, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Up.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's close to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Get comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Get comfortable man after the shop.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it's an honor. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>We appreciate you taking the time to come fuck with

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<v Speaker 4>us for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank y'all for having me on him. Man, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>watching y'all joint. Man, y'all getting better and better. I

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<v Speaker 2>told y'all this in the back. Man. This y'all got,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all one. Man, appreciate it. I'm a huge fan. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>But also ship before we go going, man, we want

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<v Speaker 4>to welcome you to the Showtime family.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations. Appreciate that. Congratulationship.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you explain to the crowd a little bit about

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<v Speaker 4>what you're doing with show Time now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Showtime and I teaming up partner up during the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five year decision on coming out of high school

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<v Speaker 2>and the effects that has gotten us today in two twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm telling the story on how we got here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you watch, well where do I start? You

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<v Speaker 2>watching how the moves and how these kids are playing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're watching the styles and how they dressing. You're watching

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<v Speaker 2>the swag, You're hearing the music. All that came somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm taking everybody and all these young millenniums on

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<v Speaker 2>the timeline like an educational piece almost.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so who started this gangster shit? You about

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<v Speaker 3>to show gangs?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, at some point it was a rip

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<v Speaker 2>in it, you know, like it went a certain way

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden it changed, and it

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<v Speaker 2>changed for a reason, and then we're in that change.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been in that change you started because I came

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<v Speaker 2>after you, after you. What I'm saying ninety six was

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<v Speaker 2>like a whole momentum ship for all of us, and

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<v Speaker 2>us being in this. You know, I'm telling the story

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<v Speaker 2>and documented. So you got trendsetters and everything brot.

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<v Speaker 4>So, like you said, twenty five years removed from Farragut Academy,

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<v Speaker 4>What what went into your decision to kylle j for me?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, man, A lot of people don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I had my I had. I had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility when I was younger. Man fucked up, not even

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<v Speaker 2>not even that, but just you know, helping moms out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm from South Carolina for everybody who don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you started working early down there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thirteen, so you know, I was used to working

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<v Speaker 2>that in a job early. So you know, I got

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble in high school and got kicked out of school,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom shopping me up here just to change

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<v Speaker 2>up my whole environment and you know, kind of getting

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<v Speaker 2>me back on the on the right road a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a friend of the coach in a camp

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<v Speaker 2>at a Nike camp, and uh, she just basically just

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<v Speaker 2>threw me in here, you know, just keep me to

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred, you know, got got out of Millway, dropped

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<v Speaker 2>my bag, told me take care of my little sister. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I would go on these these college trips, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was all about going to find an assistant coach

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<v Speaker 2>to open the open the gym. It was all about

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<v Speaker 2>asking somebody for some permission to do something. I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, man, I'm living like I'm grown as hell

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<v Speaker 2>out here like gotta ask somebody go open the gym,

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<v Speaker 2>like it just wasn't. It just wasn't. It was no

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<v Speaker 2>synergy there for the love of the game and appreciation

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<v Speaker 2>and progressing. It was there, But as far as a

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<v Speaker 2>young man, I was living so fast, I was like nah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I had a chance to play Mike. Mike

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<v Speaker 2>was out that year and had retired and I had

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<v Speaker 2>I had a play with him in the in uh

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<v Speaker 2>in a in a gym down here downtown. He let

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<v Speaker 2>me play with him and some of the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>he had and uh Isaiah Thomas was in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>after we played, Isaiah pulled me to the side and

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<v Speaker 2>gave me probably one of the more convincing conversations about

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<v Speaker 2>just playing and and and having the opportunity to play

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<v Speaker 2>and knowing the rules of those opportunities. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>really really just this documentary is about education, because if

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<v Speaker 2>not for what Zeke told me in there, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I would have known that those options was

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<v Speaker 2>even there to take advantage of. And that's that's really

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<v Speaker 2>what this is about. I exposed a rule and the

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<v Speaker 2>line that was really fine in there, that wasn't nobody contested.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think David Stirring, another of the league, thought

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<v Speaker 2>a kid was gonna be able to uh do some

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<v Speaker 2>of these things in these lines of opportunities. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was there and I and I I tried it.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna visit your career later on. But post retirement,

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<v Speaker 4>what what what has been w W what are you like?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you get to? Joid the most? Being done

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<v Speaker 3>with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Getting rest straight up? You you play so much, you

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<v Speaker 2>train so much, You trained so hard that your down

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<v Speaker 2>time and your time that you have to yourself is everything, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being able to you know, take my kids

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<v Speaker 2>to school, being able to go to little crazy school,

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<v Speaker 2>play thing, catch right, man, that's that's huge for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So being able to do that, it's like everything. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably the best part of retirement.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't understand.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like they said, they see our seasons eight months,

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<v Speaker 4>some longer for others.

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<v Speaker 3>If you go to the finals, go to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 4>But we may maybe take a month off, maybe three weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>It depends on you. You know, maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more needs to individual, but really it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's eleven months around, you know, it's eleven out of

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<v Speaker 4>twelve months working.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get like all this workload and what is it? Load? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I wish there was no such thing. We still been

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<v Speaker 2>in the league, right, there's no such thing. We wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>allowed it. We didn't. We said we had a different pride,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the type of pride in our in our style

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<v Speaker 2>of basketball. For you to be able to practice for

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<v Speaker 2>two hours tour and a half. Some coaches practice practice hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about you and you in the next it

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<v Speaker 2>had going really ham on each other, but you are

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<v Speaker 2>pushing each other. Then after practice, matter of fact, before practice,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a thirty forty five minute joint that you

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<v Speaker 2>did on your own just for you individual. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>then you actually practiced with everybody and then did everything

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<v Speaker 2>with that. Then after practice you got another thirty forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes just to sharpen everything. And that's because you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's gonna come to you. You know, if it

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<v Speaker 2>come down, you gotta be able to get a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of buckets. You gotta they're gonna trap you gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>So you working on six or seven different things every day.

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<v Speaker 2>But you locked into that mentally, you locked into that

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<v Speaker 2>that work. That plan is that that also you know

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<v Speaker 2>that you took a pride in in that preparation and

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<v Speaker 2>being prepared for those for those battles, and being prepared

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<v Speaker 2>for those games. And and I never took that light.

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<v Speaker 2>I never, I never, I never messed around with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was something that I took pride in. And then

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<v Speaker 2>being able to play hurt. Then they played through something.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not talking about just on the court. Mom's

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<v Speaker 2>going through man, something going through some the girl, this

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<v Speaker 2>the cause, the house something. The dogs got this, The

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<v Speaker 2>dogs got out, chased the neighbor down the court. She

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<v Speaker 2>did you in the gated the alarm went off along

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<v Speaker 2>over hered went off. You get multiple homes. Alarm in

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<v Speaker 2>California went off. You gotta yeah, no, I'm in I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in Denver right now. What's what like? You have no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what all lives are like. But we create this

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<v Speaker 2>and we work hard for it and we really ride

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<v Speaker 2>for it. So just a different brand of basketball right now, really.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's that's what kind of we strive to when

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<v Speaker 4>we have our guesses, is to humanize you guys and

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<v Speaker 4>humanize us because we go through the same shit everyone

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<v Speaker 4>else goes. It's just everything is in front of the world,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. And for us to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to mentally focus on a public divorce or me

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<v Speaker 4>having to whoop somebody's ass during the middle of the

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<v Speaker 4>season and it's all over TMZ and ESPN, but we

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<v Speaker 4>still have a job to do, or your mom passing away,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, or just crazy things and we don't get

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<v Speaker 4>no excuses. I mean, our job is go out there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and to perform at the highest level. But

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, we're humans, so to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to humanize and let everyone know like there's real ship,

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<v Speaker 4>we gotta go through too. But we just don't have

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, man. The best thing about I guess

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<v Speaker 2>disposition is that when you're going through that, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people don't have no outlets for that. You can

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<v Speaker 2>go out here on this court and act the goddamn

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<v Speaker 2>fool and people be out here cheering your name, and

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<v Speaker 2>really you out here screamings, cussing people out, swinging on

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<v Speaker 2>the rim, just being that animal out here. But you

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<v Speaker 2>are being able to get this lea able to release days.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. It's very shimmling to punching

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<v Speaker 2>and punching bag or something. The lead or the game

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<v Speaker 2>for me was a way to escape reality and let

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<v Speaker 2>it all out.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that Hollywood debut, man uncut.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, KG is an accident.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a big time b o siming, Hey, can we

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<v Speaker 3>get a napkin too?

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<v Speaker 5>And we post to see my boy. I gotta pause

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<v Speaker 5>water man, hold on, we're falling off.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, No, it's all good. I don't want to pull

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<v Speaker 2>my water. It's so cold. I'd rather be high like

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<v Speaker 2>that he got. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>We got plenty of towns now around tower here. But

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<v Speaker 4>tell me what it was like, you know, making your

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<v Speaker 4>Hollywood debut and getting a chance to work with.

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<v Speaker 2>Me man that bambooze and they told me I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have like a little cameo in and so you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're just gonna show up, be yourself, play a part,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh it was that simple. I had the time

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do it. And at first I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, let me let me hear the movie first.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had to meet the Southeast brothers and we

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<v Speaker 2>all had to.

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<v Speaker 3>Meet big times.

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<v Speaker 2>They were super nick fans. I showed up motherfuckers like

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<v Speaker 2>the next really, all ain't got no room to talk

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<v Speaker 2>right now, right We kind of did that for the

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<v Speaker 2>first five to ten minutes. But then they was real dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>They was real cool. They was embedded in the coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I had seen a couple of their projects. I had

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<v Speaker 2>been a fan. Didn't know that that was them. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>they did the jay Z video that I was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge fan of. I didn't even know. I just started

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<v Speaker 2>them like these new intangibles about it, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>then they started taking me and walking me through this

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<v Speaker 2>whole scenario of the movie, and it was just about

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<v Speaker 2>me being myself. So I just the first thing I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was like, man, can I mess up like playing yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Like just think about that, and I know you fuck

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<v Speaker 2>that up. And I know being in the jury store

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<v Speaker 2>Samelion man right, who has like no I can do?

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<v Speaker 2>You know I can do I can play myself. So

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<v Speaker 2>that became like, okay, you can do this. And then

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<v Speaker 2>a little about little they started like piling stuff on

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<v Speaker 2>like I was in another joint, then I was in

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<v Speaker 2>another joint. Then I had you know, at first I

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<v Speaker 2>had this mush to say and then it was like

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<v Speaker 2>this much to say. Next thing, you know, I got.

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<v Speaker 3>A that's a credit to you that saw you was

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<v Speaker 3>good at it's a credit to you.

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<v Speaker 2>He was killing. I got in there. Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a little book right here. I gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth with Adam. Just got to go like this,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta do it. I was like, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>is this man? Dope and ship. They was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I see how you were saying, and then just go

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<v Speaker 2>You've been in the Jewey store before, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just be your Yeah. So that's why it was so

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<v Speaker 2>like natural. It came off natural.

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<v Speaker 3>How was it working with Adam? He's one of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorites Adam?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, man. I got to see Adam in his his

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<v Speaker 2>in his greatness, his element. A lot of people don't notice.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you step on the court with Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>for all us who's been here and been there, you

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<v Speaker 2>feel his greatness almost to the point where you like,

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<v Speaker 2>damn the intimidated when you checking the kicks out start

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<v Speaker 2>see you looking at him? You looking then you got him?

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<v Speaker 2>You know why ain't looking at him? But you feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I felt. He was so humble, he was

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<v Speaker 2>so chill, but then again he had a when it

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<v Speaker 2>was an action boom, oh man, you you just felt

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<v Speaker 2>it like oh wow, you caught the same mind. You

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<v Speaker 2>caught him looking and you call it looking like nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>you got lines in this and I'm like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 2>and you get caught up in it. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to experience that, right, and it was it was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the unbelievable experience watching someone be great and

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<v Speaker 2>something and play a role and be a totally different person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>So NBA today versus twenty five years ago, if it

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<v Speaker 5>is anything in the game that you would change today

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<v Speaker 5>in today's game, what would you change.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest, man, I wouldn't change anything because

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<v Speaker 2>our game was way different. This brand of basketball is

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<v Speaker 2>for this brand of kids, right, The brand of basketball

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<v Speaker 2>in which we play was for that brand of individuals

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<v Speaker 2>that was able to play that. You gotta understand, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing the NBA team, you earn that position, they

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<v Speaker 2>give you a jersey, they give you a locker, You

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<v Speaker 2>earn that space, that square that's yours, that's yours. You

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<v Speaker 2>put your belongings in there, your valuables in there, that's your.

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<v Speaker 2>You earn that. I don't think it's our place to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of replace this. This is what it is. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the brand of basketball that these young kids love

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<v Speaker 2>to play, and we gotta respect it. We gotta find

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<v Speaker 2>the greatness and the jews out of all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>versus comparing it, like you know, I hate when they

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<v Speaker 2>compare Cod the Mic and Mike the Lebron. These are

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<v Speaker 2>totally different dynamics and people. If anybody's played with Lebron,

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<v Speaker 2>James the most unselfish superstar problem in sports, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, just being able to he was like

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<v Speaker 2>the shock. Shaq could have been a lot more mean

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<v Speaker 2>than he was. You know what I'm saying. We thank

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<v Speaker 2>god Shack was raised right, right, y'all haven't played against

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<v Speaker 2>the pissed off shock right? Oh shot getting pissed what like?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you Mama and O'Neil, thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for that. Seriously. But it's a different brand of basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I watched it, I'm like, what the what

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<v Speaker 2>the okay the floater in now that's what they do? Now, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me okay, Well he could have you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>and I put something on it like that because I

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<v Speaker 2>had to. I had to train, you know, I had

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<v Speaker 2>to train kids. I had to be able to. I

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<v Speaker 2>taught Giannis a couple of times, and and and Thorn

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of young guys. So I had to

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<v Speaker 2>actually adapt and download. That's what everybody was doing and

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<v Speaker 2>being able to, you know, take the same jewels and

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<v Speaker 2>how you prepare, how you come in here in your mindset,

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<v Speaker 2>and put that with this new style. So yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as O g's, we're gonna have to make the download

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<v Speaker 2>even though it ain't our preference and this ain't what

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<v Speaker 2>we used to.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all. So I bring a basketball. Absolutely, we gonna

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<v Speaker 4>gotta adapt, you know what I mean. Game is at

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<v Speaker 4>an all time high now. So someone say there's no

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<v Speaker 4>defensors on this, on that, but the game is at

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<v Speaker 4>all time high, all time global mark. People are making

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<v Speaker 4>more money than you can ever. People are getting forty

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars a year to throw a ball between you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know and a hoop.

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<v Speaker 4>So to me, older players, it's not this, it's not that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you said, we have to adapt. This is what

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<v Speaker 4>it is for right now. It may stay this way,

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<v Speaker 4>it may go back, it may not, but we have

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<v Speaker 4>to adapt to what it is to.

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<v Speaker 2>That game is entertainment right now. You want to see

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<v Speaker 2>as much d as if it's gonna drive the offense,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I would like to see mag get dead up

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<v Speaker 2>till he started bothering and throwing that bitch out of

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<v Speaker 2>bounds and like, all right, that's too much defense. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to see him, you know what I'm saying, At

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<v Speaker 2>least what I'm watching James cook. I'm kind of annoying

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<v Speaker 2>that he cooking, but I want to see what he

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<v Speaker 2>cook So I'm kind of like ah, but I'm like ah, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I get caught into it too, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have to respect it. This is the brand of basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>so let me see the best of it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying, your early years, who did

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<v Speaker 5>you pat in your game after? Oh Man coming in

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<v Speaker 5>the game, coming in the game, Because like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people say it was no KG before KG,

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<v Speaker 5>So who did you pat in.

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<v Speaker 2>Your game after? You gotta know that guys like I

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<v Speaker 2>seen you.

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<v Speaker 5>In Rodney Fields in high school, so I know in

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<v Speaker 5>my mind it wasn't no KG.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't no Rodney Fields. But you had guys like Web,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I look at Webb and Big Dog

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<v Speaker 2>even though we're in the kind of same generation, but

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<v Speaker 2>those were my older brothers. Were she Joe Smith that

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<v Speaker 2>like those were my old you know. But when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to big big brothers, you know, obviously call and

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<v Speaker 2>and and Charles, they were older. David was as agile

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<v Speaker 2>as you want to be at the position. But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>magic was like the potential of what you can be

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<v Speaker 2>if you had some handles. So then I was thinking, like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>what if magic came from the hood, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>what if like magic had like a BMX kind of

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<v Speaker 2>attitude with this ship, you know what I'm saying. What

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<v Speaker 2>I like. One thing I loved about Web. Web used

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<v Speaker 2>to dunk it on. You ain't no laying it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna put you in a basket. So they

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<v Speaker 2>all the kicking each other. And you know we from Onyx,

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<v Speaker 2>We from crack babies, we from we from gang banging,

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<v Speaker 2>you know right, So when we was playing, that's how

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<v Speaker 2>that's how Woof used to have us out here like

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<v Speaker 2>yo swing on the rim, rallying you smell on when

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<v Speaker 2>smells klowne own that I wanted to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>be burst from a seven foot perspective and not have

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<v Speaker 2>any limitations. I didn't want any when I came out

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<v Speaker 2>here on the court. I wanted to have the advantage,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted you asked the opposal to know I

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<v Speaker 2>have the advantage, and then I want to watch how

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<v Speaker 2>you adjusted that. Then I'm starting adjusting to you. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing how eager you are. Now I got you

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<v Speaker 2>going off pump fakes. Now now I'm just going And

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<v Speaker 2>I always picked that up early, And as I got

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<v Speaker 2>into the league, I started getting knowledge from over the players.

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin McHale started getting taught what I was actually seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I just took it to another level where creatively,

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<v Speaker 2>because once you can teach something, that's when you know

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<v Speaker 2>you have it. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, besides pot pattern in your game? Who did you

0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.720
<v Speaker 5>watch growing up? Like who did you watch? Chris Webber

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<v Speaker 5>and big Dogs watched?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even though she was like still like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like right there, I can where it was like the

0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 2>old I wanted to be like where where it was

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<v Speaker 2>like this big ass like Charles Barkley when he was

0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:25.040
<v Speaker 2>a chocolate niggle Web your webs dump where one laying

0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 2>nothing up. Web had these huge ass hands and he

0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 2>was dunking on you got a crazy story. And I

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<v Speaker 2>first got in the league and I played against Webb

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<v Speaker 2>Yo he caught it, and I look and he shot

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<v Speaker 2>a jump hook and the look and he shot the

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<v Speaker 2>jump and I looked at him and Sam Mitchell right

0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.240
<v Speaker 2>after he right after, right after he the jump hook

0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:41.520
<v Speaker 2>on my had to take it out whatever. He came

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<v Speaker 2>up and he slapped the ship out me. Lord slapped

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<v Speaker 2>what the ship? You can't do that out here. You

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:48.960
<v Speaker 2>can't be a fan out here. I know you love him.

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.119
<v Speaker 2>You gotta bust his ass though, And that was the

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.280
<v Speaker 2>last time that ever happened. Straight up, he slapped the

0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 2>dog ship out of me. In a game, my favorite

0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.399
<v Speaker 2>player shot a jump hook on him and I was

0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 2>in all of it, and and I had lost it.

0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I lost all all the fans. I had to actually

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.879
<v Speaker 2>put it to this cloud the fan out because I've

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.920
<v Speaker 2>seen Diesel and did the damn like you seen Shaq

0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>first time. That never seen Shaq first time, first time. Man,

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Shaq came out like God. I kept looking up. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seven foot y'all. I was like god, damn, like

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<v Speaker 2>this shack was up and he talking real fastness that

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 2>country Faither'm goodbody? Did you always give you that little

0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:36.240
<v Speaker 2>quick answer is good good? But Diesels, He's just diesels, good,

0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 2>good people. Man, you know, but yeah, man, where was

0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be? Like? Where?

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to be a better version of where? Yeah silent?

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<v Speaker 5>So me and me and man have the same passion.

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<v Speaker 5>But I always tell people our passion for the game

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<v Speaker 5>and what basketball means to me, you cannot teach. You know,

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 5>I knew what basketball could do for my life, my

0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 5>family's life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Your passion for the game, your emotion for the game.

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<v Speaker 5>Who do you credit that to?

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<v Speaker 2>Energy? My mom? My mom? My mom is a straight

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.240
<v Speaker 2>up ge straight up yeah. And she used to work

0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 2>graveyard if y'all know what graveyard is, graveyard six six

0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 2>to six you in the morning, right, She did that

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 2>for a number of years. And then watching that, watching

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 2>how she would come home and still have energy to

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 2>get us ready for school, get us to school, and

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.480
<v Speaker 2>then we had to actually go to school, be something.

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.959
<v Speaker 2>So you know, we was under that. So whenever I

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 2>came out, I understood responsibility very early. So when I

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>would when I would prepare for something or you know,

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 2>whether it was a school project or whatever, I would

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:40.199
<v Speaker 2>put everything into it. So when it came to practicing basketball,

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.359
<v Speaker 2>I used to get my ass busted. I used to

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.359
<v Speaker 2>I was in a rougher neighborhood. Then I moved to

0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a nicer neighborhood, and then this nice neighborhood. They didn't

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 2>play football, they didn't street fight, they didn't slap Boston.

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 2>You know. They was more polished, polished individuals. You know,

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 2>they wore college shirts and polos. And it was my

0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.119
<v Speaker 2>first time actually like what they helped us, seeing like

0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.200
<v Speaker 2>black excellence. It was like a better neighborhood, but it

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.360
<v Speaker 2>was where parents were doing better. Moving from the hood,

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.200
<v Speaker 2>that's when that whole transition started. Where you had the backyard.

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 2>In front yard, you couldn't tell you shit after that, right,

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.919
<v Speaker 2>coming from the project, right, and you just thought you

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 2>made it. But down here it was playing basketball. So

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<v Speaker 2>to be better, I just I used to work on

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:19.959
<v Speaker 2>my ship. I used to watch Derek Coleman. I used

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>to watch Kenny Anderson. I used to I used to

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 2>have fans of people that I wanted to be like,

0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 2>and I worked on that shit. But then working and

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 2>all this, I used to always put like my version

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 2>of that into like how I would do it because

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I won't I didn't have big shoulders. I wann't this big,

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, mass of a person, so I just had

0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.119
<v Speaker 2>to I used to always creatively make it work for me.

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.280
<v Speaker 2>But my mom was the first part of me learning

0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:45.200
<v Speaker 2>what hard work and pushing through and being mentally strong.

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.960
<v Speaker 2>She was my first and probably my only decent example

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.199
<v Speaker 2>in which I obviously took from players and stuff, but

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 2>when it came I never got the CMJ practice or prepare,

0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 2>but I prepared with laser focus and uh little laser concentration,

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<v Speaker 2>so that when I got on the court, I knew

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 2>exactly how it was gonna be and I was following

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 2>that vision. And uh to touch on that, like it's it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's crazy because before I even met you, seeing you

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 5>play basketball, I knew that we would relating. And now

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 5>you talk about the graveyard shipt not like we we

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 5>basically the same person, because like I can, I can

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.239
<v Speaker 5>see how your mama made you strong, because y'all ya

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 5>got y'all gotta i'm i'm'a, i'm'a reiterate that on that.

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 5>Growing up, you come home from school four five, your

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.920
<v Speaker 5>mom at work right six in the morning, getting ready

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 5>to school, she coming home.

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 2>So you don't even see your mama some days.

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying on top of that, and

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 5>then now you're relying on your grandmother somebody else to

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.679
<v Speaker 5>be that parent dog so that that shit can take

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.160
<v Speaker 5>a toll on you absolute bit as a kid. Now

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 5>you're trying to figure out how you gonna get the

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 5>wisdom and stuff to make it because your mom it works,

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 5>You're not getting.

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:51.959
<v Speaker 2>It from us.

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 5>So so just seeing seeing your passion, Like before I

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 5>met you, I knew that I was gonna relate to

0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 5>you and and even now have the utmost respect for you.

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 5>But I knew he was gonna relate, and I knew

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:02.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of our same upbringing was gonna bring us.

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 2>To the same place.

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<v Speaker 4>It's energy too, I mean, I think obviously you know

0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 4>what your energy is. What I was always drawn to

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 4>when you were one of the players that I was

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 4>just like, man, I wish I could just play with

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 4>this dude, you.

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean?

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.119
<v Speaker 4>Because when I talked to like, right, we'll get to

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 4>that too, talking about Big Baby Davis and Nate Robinson

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 4>and Perk there, like.

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Damn, you and KG would have got along like this, y'all.

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 4>Motherfuckers just both out there going crazy, you know what

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean.

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 3>So I just loved your energy.

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 4>You're starting in the pregame where your motherfucking running and

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 4>breathing hard and slapping the back of the back sweat

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 4>trying to I'm.

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Just like watching one of the great We gotta watch.

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 5>Watch and we're watching greatness.

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 3>We respect speaking on it.

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.679
<v Speaker 5>Speaking of that, let's talk about the Western Conference in

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 5>the nineties early two thousands. I mean that all over

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 5>Tim Duncan, Rashee Wallace, Carl Along Barkley, Dirt, Barkley, Dirk.

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 5>See Web, I can keep going down to make dice

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 5>every night.

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>You had to be ready, you know, as crazy is

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 2>the West? Was the West the wild every day? Listen.

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I know the guard played right now in sports is

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of like you know, the golf playing the right.

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 2>But the pot four back then was like every night

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>it was. It wasn't it really wasn't a night off.

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, you would have guys who I would even

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>throw Danny Manny in this man like the little guys

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 2>that you wouldn't necessarily Derrick McKee from UH from Indiana. Uh.

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Nobody really talks about big Dog, you know, Web, She dice.

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Dirk was young, but then he came into himself. Joe

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Smith nobody talks about Joe Smith like man it was,

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was Charles Barkley came alone, like it was.

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 2>And then David Robinson would float because Dennis Robins played five,

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 2>so he would float sometime to four and he had

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 2>all agility to face you hit you with a you know.

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.479
<v Speaker 2>So every night it was, it was, it was just

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.439
<v Speaker 2>it was just a challenge at the position. But at

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the same time, while you're sitting up here, you know,

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>appreciating everybody else's style, you really having to light on

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 2>your own and actually come with like I told y'all,

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 2>still sharp and still. And I used to always be

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>prepared for whatever and whoever, and I didn't want to

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 2>ever be the one that didn't have the energy or

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 2>or didn't have to know how Like everybody that that

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 2>that's ever played with me will tell you two things.

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm prepared to play and it's whatever, Like I'm one

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 2>of them. That's one of them. I'm one of them

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>teammates that's gonna ride even if you're wrong, I'm ring,

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 2>which we'll talk about how wrong you are later, but

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 2>right now I'm in it, going throw it, throw it

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>like we out here, and you know, my mentality has

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>always been like that. So that's why when you know,

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I when i'm when I befriend somebody or we become

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 2>teammates and be really feeling like we family, because that's

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 2>how we hold it's where it goes. Yeah, yeah, all that, Yeah,

0:26:55.640 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 2>two thirty two thousands. Who's the toughest match every think? Yeah? Them,

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 2>you bust everybody ass. You know, I want to know

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 2>who got you? Who got you? Listen my first my first,

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>God damn was big dog Man on the you know,

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking of Milwaukee, Big Dog Like. It's just like,

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, my rookie year. I'm coming in here. And

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 2>plus I'm used to in high school playing bigs. I

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't used to playing threes and chasing football guards off

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 2>guards and didn't have a crazy handle. And I played a

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.239
<v Speaker 2>couple of guards, but not not like this, not like

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 2>this big dog. Not like this big dog is a

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 2>whole another level. And I was like, holy snap, yeah,

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 2>like thirty eight in the in the in the preseason game.

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:39.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, pre seasons supposed to be taking it light.

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>You're going through the motions, YadA YadA, big dog guy here,

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 2>dripping he out here, making noise and growling and talking

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 2>ship and I ain't gonna front. I was like, it was,

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 2>it was, it was a lot. It was over my head.

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 2>And I watched the film. And then I watched the film.

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I took took a nap and woke up really early.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I washed it again, and the time I watched it,

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I got pissed more pissed, And then coaches were telling

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 2>me how he was breaking me down. And then I

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 2>started figuring it out. Okay, he coming off picts like this,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 2>look he took the angle. He crossed me up right here.

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 2>My hand ain't even So I started picking up the intangibles.

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>You don't even know that in the game yard that

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>the small stuff the hand contests to swipe at the ball,

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, just the little slap at the knee, All

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that means something in basketball. If you don't do that

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and he goes up and makes a clear shot that

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 2>he can make that you put your hand up. It

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 2>changed the whole dynamic of that. So when I figured

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.719
<v Speaker 2>that out, I started like, okay, And I'm good at

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 2>mathematics too, So I was always angles. When I would

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>attack somebody, I wouldttack somebody's shoulder to shoulder because I

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>knew they had the movie. Then I would spin back

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>for a left or a comeback. And then when I

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>was spinning back, I got that way of me telled

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna dunk the small fucking So I was on

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>that like man like. And then as I started getting better,

0:28:53.760 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I started seeing like the competition falling off, and that liked.

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I started eating it alive. I started getting off on

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>that like I was. I would face guys and look

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and then look him in the face, like look at me.

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And I would have guys like you know, Tonio and

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Troyn Jamison. I used to love it. Him and Chris

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Bosh would never looked at me on the face, So

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>look at me, look look at me on the face,

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>knowing I got the whole clock in my head and

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I was swinging, and I always knew I had that,

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>so I used to always play to that. But you know,

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>this game is about being dominating, and if you're not

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the one stepping on somebody, then you're the one being

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 2>stepped on. And I hate to put it like that,

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 2>but that's that's what it was. And if you didn't

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>come with your best, then you got embarrassed straight like that.

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I gotta I can't forget Antoine Walker. He and that

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Cybertwine was a motherfucker. Yeah, he was a moss. He was.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>He was the first that had the candy with the

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 2>big fellow who had all the handles and the all

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>trickiness and the floaters and the three ball and the

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 2>knock knees. Cyber Twine was a motherfucker's headache. Yeah, straight up.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Then Zach Randolph and all these other little guys start

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 2>coming min into the game to start making it all

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 2>just just pushing you, pushing. He was dope, man. I

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed my time in the league. I can't speak for

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 2>everybody else, but my ship was magical, y'all. Dope moment.

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 4>I remember a friend of mine, Yeah, I definitely give

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 4>it up. A friend of mine and former UCL Jelani

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 4>McCoy said he played against.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 2>You somewhere in high school.

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 3>And he said, you.

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 4>Got all the yelling and dunking and yelling and blocking

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 4>and yelling from you.

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Where did you he played with? Listen played one game

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>shout five. We Yeah, don't ask me no question about

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the story. A y'all just listen to the goddamn store.

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>So when I'm I'm South Carolina's not a lot of

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 2>tournaments and not a lot of national exposure, so I

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>would go I got it. I got invited to Nike,

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>which was in Indianapolis, where I met Ai. I met

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of my future friends there in that camp,

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Runnie Fields, everybody that was there in that camp. So

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>in that you got like you're not supposed to at

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that time, but you got like little Hay, you know,

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>niggas hanging out and mother fucks over here, Hey on

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 2>k Swiss, hell Mandida's over here. We were in New Jersey,

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>so it was a bunch of that going on. Yeah,

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 2>So I be friend of the cat that was from

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>uh La and he was with uh K Swiss. I

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know if y'all sneakerheads. I'm a huge sneakerhead, but

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 2>case one of my favorite right with actually like the

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>KSE Swish and the Navy boot slope, right you already know, right,

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>So he was like, yo, hey, I can't really give

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 2>you all the shit Nike gain, but I can fly

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 2>you out whatever you ever heard of, Paul Pierce, like

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.959
<v Speaker 2>Paul Pierce, Like, nah, I don't want that, Like nah

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Catt on the West Coast making line and there you

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 2>ever heard of tell y'all Henderson, Like, man, you ever

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 2>heard a Ricky start naming all these West Coast cats?

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Ricky Price and these are all hitters, y'all all everybody,

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm naming to somebody Toby Bailey like all these cats. Right.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, Miam, really, you know, I'm over here.

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>So he was like, but come on here and see

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about. I thought he was full of shit.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>And I see, I know, I get this joint. I

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 2>get my first time I've been on the plane to

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>me and my mom, we get you know, I take 'em.

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm fifteen, fourteen, fifteen, man, my mom go to Vegas

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>on this little whatever, no bread, no nothing, this shit.

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>So all take care. But it's a U. So I

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 2>meet Paul Pierce before we go to Vegas. We gotta

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 2>go to LA. We go to Inglewood. So first you know,

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm in Inglewood, Like, what is no Inglewood High? I

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>met Demani in their shout to DEMONI term five whole

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>little you know, the whole West, the whole joint, the

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>whole La right now right so p here, I see

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>a little fat kid like a little kurroo. You got

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the man Barnes is you know what I'm saying. You

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. I'm like, who is this little fast?

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>So I'm watching them play ones? But then p went

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>up and crossed it then dunk that mom. I'm like,

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 2>damn the fat motherfucking jump. So we get to mess around,

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 2>we get to plan, we run over. We were like

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>a little practice and it all clicked. We all joking,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 2>talking share y'all, y'all. We go to Vegas and the

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 2>first thing he say to me is, look all these

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 2>l a niggas gonna be on one team. This nigga

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>shake Hotton before Lebron, he was. He was the Ronnie

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Fields of the West Coast, like this ninth eighth grade

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 2>of West Super All Sports Illustrated cover. He was. He was.

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>He was before his time, so Shae Ki. And he

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>was left handed, and he was nasty, unbelievable, and he

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>was a nigga, y'all. He wanted to dunking him talking ship.

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>He was witch smoked, he was with whatever, like seriously

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 2>like he was probably a little meaning than Lebron. He

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>was respected though, like at an early age, so I

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>was I didn't even know none of this. So I'm like,

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>he don't whatever, I don't you know, I don't care.

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's hope. So he heep pouring everybody out look that

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Jay Hens, Jamal McCourty bright here just this wikie price

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>for just to me. So I'm sitting up there like, Okay,

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 2>we're really looking like Lennox and d MX and the

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>jointing bell she was looking at. Yeah, I see him

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 2>with the feathers in his head. Yeah, I see him food. Yeah,

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>he don't look that big. So I'm we over there

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 2>like that. Yeah. So I'm over here getting like a

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>check of everybody. So I'm watched Jilani outlet everybody ship

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 2>cour Yard was one of the best high school shop

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>blockers I've ever seen, no question. I'm just like just

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>how he anticipated and how he and he talking shit, no,

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>he throwing it and I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm like, okay,

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that's what he am. Yeah we are so we all

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 2>get to where we go in the championship game, I'm

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 2>already knowing I gotta deal. I gotta turn it all

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 2>the way up. So I'm all the way turning. I'm

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 2>on a thousand So when I'm throwing niggas shot him,

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>no peace mine, no blocking your ship, putting it in

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 2>the rim, taking it out, hitting the hitting the backboard twice,

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, all the little shit. So I'm no mine, no,

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm doing I'm just go tanning. I'm doing it.

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Just you know, we beat them niggas, Pete bone Shade.

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>They go back, you know, but we beat them. We

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 2>wining whatever. I go back to South Carolina. I don't

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 2>even know, but Pete Stock go to the roof, you

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So next thing I know, I

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 2>see pe he damn there thirty pounds, slim ship doing

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>all type of other ship. Oh yeah, you know, like

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 2>we're growing out of our little bodies. Yea. And yeah,

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that's my first kind of read interaction with Jolanni. We

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 2>were we were all see like see as I'm seeing

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 2>him saying this. So many guys get caught like in

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the wave of just because Jolannie McCoy was a real one,

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, you had to have you had to

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 2>move him, You had to have a whole package of

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>moves for guys like that. Should have had a long career,

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 2>should have had ten fifteen year career. Listen easy him

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and Rodney Fields dog. It was the two biggest uh listen,

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Shae Cott and Ronney Fields and Lenny Cook. The league

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 2>missed out on all three of those, yess and being

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>basketball legends in their own right, shout real short class,

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 2>real ship.

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 4>So you caught MJ's last three peat ninety six, ninety seven, ninety.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Eight, I did? We all did? Y'all caught all caught it?

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Tell me what that was like.

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Mike was heat man. You see how like in the

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 2>back of Matt was sitting in front of me and

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I went like this to him. I said, did you

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 2>feel that? I said, yeah, I said, That's how Mike was, y'all,

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Like an he just when he was on the core,

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 2>he was just he was gonna have to look at it, listen.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>And he was a dog. You understand by thing. Mike

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 2>used big words and charisma and the smile, and it's

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 2>a whole nother side to that, y'all. Who I mean

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, man, And any and anything that would

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>either shake or rattle or wasn't or came off as disrespectful,

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>he reacted to it. And there was motivation. And I

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 2>actually took a little piece of that out from when

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you play, because when you play, Doll. Y'all don't understand

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.320
<v Speaker 2>that you got to be in a certain Me and

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 2>Jack could be best friends. I can be cool with Matt,

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.479
<v Speaker 2>but out here I gotta put Matt on his ass

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 2>for this layup. If not, when I get back to

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the locker room and the door shut, it might turn

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>into something else from men.

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 5>Let me tell you, the way he greeted us walking

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 5>up here is a totally different way he get.

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Us for a game. Man, Dad, He don't. He don't

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 2>give us that much love for a game. It's a

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.879
<v Speaker 2>real shady ash for the game. I'm drawing the line

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 2>in the sand, and you know where I'm at. Yeah,

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like, what's up? It ain't

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 2>the same as when what's up? Doll? I got to

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>kill you out here? It's war time. Ain't not personal

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>but killer kidding. Yeah, And it was harder with friends

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>like Chauncey t Lou. I'm glad all my friends were guards.

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, I ain't have to guard. You know what

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. But when I befriended she, it was hard

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>playing she sometimes g Trent was one of my good friends.

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 2>It was hard playing those guys. But I know they

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 2>are here trying to they are my throat, so you

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>know it was you know, it was easy to hear

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>what target? Absolutely, what's your best MJ story? Oh man,

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 2>my best MJ. Well, one of my MJ stories was

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 2>what my favorite one? My favorite MJ story is. Since

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 2>this is out there were in Chicago. You know it's

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 2>my rookie year, second half of the year. You know

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 2>how you you know how, you're not caught on now

0:37:57.960 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>right now? You got your little one two moves, you

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 2>getting them off right now? You got some confidence, right

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 2>So I'm in that. So I'm in the wave. I'm

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 2>playing decent, I'm starting whatever however we get Chicago. Ronnie

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 2>was just in the bad crash. I haven't had no sleep,

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 2>so I'm on the I'm on the getting back to

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 2>the go. I got about seventy people at the game.

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>The hood in here. We all live here, right, so

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm just on one. But i haven't had no sleep.

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm just doing like a you know, I come in here, man,

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 2>And it was hard seeing my partner in the bed

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 2>like that. You had a big ass halo around his neck,

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 2>but he was such in good spirits. Man feels shot

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to Ronnie feels to listen, bro, he was dunking and

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>my other doing the same thus with the halo on

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 2>his head, which is crazy. Anyway, I'm playing right, but

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Jr Is having a good game, you know, Jyard might

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 2>j right shot to jay R. So I'm like, so

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 2>as we come at the time out just just I'm

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>on y'all, y'all. I can't even explain it. I was

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>just like, yo, keep keep killing that nigga, y'all killing

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>that boning them? Yo, straight up, you have a good game, Joe,

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>keep going. But it was on some light, just fly bylight.

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>He was like, yeah, you too. So as I'm walking

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 2>off nigga right here, Uh Mike can hear me, but

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I ain't really I don't really give a fuck. So

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so I double ballot, Yeah, man, keep killing

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that nigga, Yo, keep killing them on fuck. So as

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 2>I say that, I feel it, hands on hips last lock.

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Then look the nigga stab me for about fifteen seconds.

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 2>You feel let so I start to feel It's two

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 2>ways you can go in this. I can walk this

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 2>off out like I don't even feel it, and play

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 2>it off and and dumb me out. FU fuck that ma,

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm in here, I got singing in him, cloning him on,

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 2>hung on the arm, moan, I'm moan, keep killing this nigga. Okay,

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>keep it up. So I hear jay, y'all go y'a, alright, y'all,

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 2>fella keep going here, you too. So he trying to

0:39:58.239 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 2>get me off a note. I don't even you know,

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>now that I recall it. He was trying to kind

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>of just get off. So we go, so I double back,

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 2>go and get ready to say something. So he goes, hey, look, Mike,

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 2>he don't really know how we I see him. It

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>might having a conversation. So he's like, he don't really know,

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>he excited whatever. So now MJ on the back leg joint,

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>you know that right, Okay? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah. Huh. I can't even even really describe the

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 2>next like sixty seven minutes to play, y'all, and this

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>next sixty seven minutes to play, y'all, we get two,

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 2>not one, two ten second calls. You know, you bring

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>the ball up. Ten second costs were down twenty five.

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Now it was just that two. Mike had eighteen year

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 2>like forty now, ja y'all myself, we ain't scored in

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>like about four minutes, and I subbed like three of

0:40:54.560 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the starters, like it's just finally flip it got bad win, y'all.

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I come to the joint and then they know this

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 2>when you come and you've been on the run, you

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 2>not got back on the floor, got back how to

0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 2>be back? And you feel like you on defense all

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the time. You come to the bitch like this. So

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Jay, remember my ba my bad. I'm sorry, man,

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Like it's cool, man, I told you shut

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:28.560
<v Speaker 2>your eyes shut man here, so you got in between

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.359
<v Speaker 2>her gager. Ain't theren where you like? Damn? And that'st thing.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>You know. We are there like this, Mike came down. Okay, y'all, fella, okay, okay,

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.439
<v Speaker 2>damn y'all, fella, damn, damn y'all, y'all, Dad, damn y'all.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I never talked ship to Mike ever given life seen

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>him at all. Start apologizing, man, you know I never

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 2>did it. Nobody else but I had that little respect man.

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 3>That's that's Mike.

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 2>And then I apologize to Jay. Y'all, Man, how did

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 2>me to get your man? What said? What was Gerard responding? Man?

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 2>I told you chill out man, all right, But ja,

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>y'all was like a cool big brother. Shout to him.

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Man Him and Sam Mitchell they were. They were great

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 2>vests for me. Man Him and Terry Porter they were.

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 2>They was real vests. These were real gee's that they

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 2>had messed up. So when I came in, they was

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>really cracking the whip on me on just walking the

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 2>fine line. That's important, and they didn't really understand that ship.

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 2>I won't gonna mess this up for nobody. Don't need

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>y'all to be on me like this, But yeah, I

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 2>ain't fro the fuck thisself for me what y'all talking about?

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I was locked in from day one with them.

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 3>God, that's what's up.

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 4>Trash talking is an art, I think probably to me,

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 4>I may have missed some guys, but you and GP

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 4>were the best at it.

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Where'd that come from?

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the top ten, I'm gonna be top five.

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I always say that the trash talking, you gotta be

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 2>able to back it up, right. So the first thing

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 2>about trash talking is, uh, I would I would actually

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 2>consider who was talking to trash and then if they

0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>had the ability to back it up to whether I

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 2>was gonna actually engaged with somebody. But then you got there,

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 2>and y'all know this. You got the trash bag nigga

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 2>out here talking up nig then the way you shut

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 2>niggas up and you just ask something, I'm just going.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like if the trash talking get to a

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 2>point where I got you not talking no more, that's

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the worst thing you can ever do. And trash talking

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>you have to continue. Told you waste to go in

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 2>trash talk matter what. And if you decide to continue

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 2>to trash talk and keep going, you gotta keep it up.

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 2>So the minute I not add you out and now

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 2>now you not no, you exhausted, You ain't got no more. Man,

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.479
<v Speaker 2>get this self. This niggas's right, it's over. I gotta

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 2>step on you. And that's how it usually was. But

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 2>once I start seeing the trash talk affect people, it

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 2>was it was different for me from how I used it.

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Was there someone that you loved, you knew that motherfucker

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 3>back it up talking to.

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 2>You, believe it or not, y'all. Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan,

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 2>shot to Timmy Tim Duncan. People would not see him

0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>verbally seeing stuff because he wouldn't talk consentences, freeze tim

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Timmy will hit you in phrases, got you groomed almost

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:15.879
<v Speaker 2>just the worst right here, nice try like subtle shit,

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 2>no gage to ship, no real hard course shit, just

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 2>to subtlely to just back your ass up and put

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 2>you back in like this over here, like you know.

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 2>And then what really, what really, what really really really

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 2>pissed me off was when the trash tark wasn't affecting him.

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 2>So now you spending all this energy trying to rid

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 2>us up. You know, I forgot about your own game.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>You forgot about they coming to you that you're supposed

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 2>to do. And then that's when I actually went quit

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>talking trash to timm because he wouldn't respond or he

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't giving me the reaction. That was, I can't get

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>really get hype off this thing ain't even giving me,

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 2>not even looking now, you know, starting you know, doing

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 2>a little you know, the shoulder ship, and he won't

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 2>react to that. And see, you know, Timmy got twenty

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen like up here, So then I started changing that,

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm so then it was now sometimes

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 2>you just you went to it. You know, two dogs

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>meet in the middle of and to be what it is.

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I didn't understand that.

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes with Tim, he used to come out of the

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 5>game me Pop just screaming and him cursing him out.

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting down there and you letting this motherfucker talk

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 2>to you like this, You Tim Duncan, and he's saying nothing.

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 5>So when Pop come to me, I gotta be like,

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 5>what the fucking I say, Tim Duncan taking it? I

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 5>gotta take you gotta take it. But it made me

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 5>a better player, It made me coachable, you know what

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. But at first soon as Pop point, man,

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 5>you better get the fuck out of my face, you

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying.

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 2>But I see you going off on Tim, I gotta

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 2>be able to take it. I watched Gary Payton control

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Karen Payden and Charge Barclay was two of the arguably

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 2>best trash talkers I ever experienced. I saw Gary Payton

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 2>control the referees, his coach, my coach, the crowd, the

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 2>lady in the front, the guy who was on the

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 2>side of the Minnesota games hitting the bucket. He was

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 2>controlling the whole game.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 3>That's magical.

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I watched GP back down the guard from baseline, the baseline,

0:45:59.040 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>talking the whole time.

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 6>Shut your ass up, bow up, twist hey, get his

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 6>ass he here, Hey, come up.

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Hey. You see the hand on the hill calling if

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you see he just like finally him. I'm like managing

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 2>all this. He talking to me, he calling the play,

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 2>He throwing the boat like yo, and still scoring the balls,

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 2>stealing the ball, affected in the in the huddle. He

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 2>in the huddle, he got the thing, he drawing it up.

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yo. GP to me was like masterful. Charles

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Barkley was another level of trash talking because he would

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>end up fighting you for trying to fight you. But

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 2>he instilled fearing everybody on the court. Gary Payton actually

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 2>used it to get fouls, to get his teammates files,

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 2>to uh, get guys in and out like he was

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>just he was just a control free you know. And

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>if you went to a part of Gary, he was

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing.

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 6>What a drink set, y'all ain't drinking shots over the hill?

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 6>Get them out of feet, man with them.

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>This is GP. This is just GP. Year. Yeah I

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 2>saw it, you know, so I guess that would kind

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of be my example of if the yeah GP was

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of my example of what I wanted to but

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I give Gary shout the GP map. We was in

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>everybody's talking about the twenty anniversary events, winning the Dunk

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Contest in Oakland, right, But y'all don't know is that

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Kobe Bryant rest in peace to my dog. He took

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 2>another level of being a defensive standpoint because Gary Payton,

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 2>after practice after practice, all star practice, poured us to

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 2>the side because Cold dashed him something. They pulled both

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>of us to the side and said, let me tell

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 2>y'all something. Look when you're playing defense, and then he

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 2>went through a thirty minute joint with both of us

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:41.240
<v Speaker 2>on defense and keeping us between the leg and reaching

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and how to reach and when you reach up and

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 2>just low tricks of the trade. That next time I

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 2>saw Cold after the break he was using. It became

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 2>first team that year. First time I seen him say

0:47:50.360 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>he used that shit GPH, I thought that shit, but

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.799
<v Speaker 2>I knew that only the three of us was part

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 2>of that, So I was like you saw, I thought

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.439
<v Speaker 2>it was gonna CALLI fight and caught as shit. Wow,

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Because GP taught us when you rip somebody to go

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 2>through that chest us as usually your hand you see

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 2>this right. He told us to take a step and

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 2>come through your chest and come and then round out.

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 2>There's no way you can protect the ball. You can't

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 2>cross it back once you get in there, once I'm

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 2>in your cab, you can't cross it up. You would

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 2>even have to turn your back. Oh, man, I saw

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Coke take that first night after the break. I saw it.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, we want no text or none of that

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 2>back then. But when I first saw my shot there,

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 2>it stayed it right here. When I saw him, he

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 2>knew exactly what I was talking about. Student the GP

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 2>for that you no doubt.

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 4>So you experienced I mean, obviously Minnesota it was your

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.919
<v Speaker 4>first landing spot, and you experienced a lot of after

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 4>you got going, a lot of personal success. But as

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 4>a team, you guys weren't so as competitivis or as

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 4>much as you wanted to win.

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 3>How did that affect you?

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 4>Because you're doing well, you're making all star teams, eventually

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 4>winning the MVP, but your team is.

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Not moving the way you wanted to move.

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 2>You know what, man, I I was? I was? I was.

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.439
<v Speaker 2>I was drowning in my own success, if you will,

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 2>like once I started seeing like the owner that wasn't

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 2>on the same pages as growing and making the team

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 2>better like other teams. And then I got friends that

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 2>were on other teams, and you know, teams were getting

0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 2>better and they going out trying to make doing all this,

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and I would always feel like I was in the

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:24.359
<v Speaker 2>same spot as last and that was frustrating. And then too,

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't the most outspoken. I wasn't gonna I didn't

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 2>see where coming out here talking about the owner of

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the team was going to actually give me some like

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 2>it didn't work like that, And at the end of

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the day, you have to carry that out. When you

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 2>do shit like that, and stuff like that in this

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 2>league comes back on you because the owners talk and

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a buddy buddy system. And if you didn't, you know,

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 2>watch Catherin's whole situation. That'll tell you that it's a

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a good boys club, you know what

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So it's definitely a billionaire's boys club. So

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I understood that right off. So I want to affect

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 2>what I could do, and I would just focus on

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:02.320
<v Speaker 2>things that I can control, and when I had a

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:06.800
<v Speaker 2>chance to change that, I did. But you know, it

0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:10.320
<v Speaker 2>was very frustrating putting everything into something and knowing that

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 2>you need the other half to be able to complete

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 2>these certain steps. So when I had a first off,

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 2>you go into the playoffs, then you get put out

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs eight straight times, it's like like here we

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 2>go again, and it's almost like thinking like, okay, that

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 2>next time. It's that next time. Then I actually get there,

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 2>we get past it, we get there, and then now

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking like, Okay, got tasted, and now now I

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 2>know what it takes. But you need these parts. And

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 2>if throw nobody equip you to have these these parts, man, man,

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.320
<v Speaker 2>you can only control. So the Boston thing for me

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.920
<v Speaker 2>was it wasn't about anything else. I wanted to win

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota and I want to be the first to

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:47.240
<v Speaker 2>I want to be the first to bring a championship

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 2>to the city, but I need the other parts to it.

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:51.880
<v Speaker 2>And if Glenn wasn't gonna step up and do those things,

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 2>then I have to actually make a career move. And

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I should have left a little earlier than I did,

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 2>just because body wise and what I wanted to bring

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 2>to it. Cause when you play at a certain level,

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 2>your body is the one that takes the beating on it,

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 2>and when I got the Boston all, I I felt

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:11.320
<v Speaker 2>like I was a uh well prepared, uh professional athlete

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that can articulate itself to the owner on what I

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.279
<v Speaker 2>expect out of this. So w me and we had

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 2>girl spect got on the same lines for where me

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and Glenn Taylor disconnected. I got on the same page

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 2>with him very early, and it wasn't cool, and there

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 2>was some smoke involved, and we figured it out. But

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:30.399
<v Speaker 2>I wanted him to understand what I was as a man,

0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 2>and I ain't none of these peons that you used

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 2>to in here. You gonna talk to me with some

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking respect, And I'm a man first, homie, and I

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 2>stood on that. Give a fuck. I make bread too,

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I got a plane too. I do that too. So

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 2>what you saying, right, they coming from the name on

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 2>the back, not the name on the f not the

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 2>name on the front. And that's how I shot at me.

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, we we got an understanding because of I

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>guess his relations with Antwine and and Paul and him

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:59.439
<v Speaker 2>being comfortable. I didn't wanna make him comfortable. I ain't

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 2>want him comfort with me, because when you're comfortable, you

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>say anything. When you drunk or you feeling good. Nah,

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I want you to always be on be on line

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.359
<v Speaker 2>with me always, Hey, what's up? How you doing? Keep

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 2>it moving. So when I came in, I came in

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 2>that demeanor and it made the relationship a lot better

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 2>because it was all about respect versus the intangibles and

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 2>all the bullshit that comes sometimes getting in betweens that

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 2>make things rough.

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes Summer of seven you end up going to Boston.

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 3>But that was our we believe here.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 4>That's when we put a bunch of misfits together and

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 4>did some crazy shit. The last half of the season

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 4>made NBA history, beat the first first eight CV the

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 4>number one. See Dirk was MVP that year. We busted

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 4>the whole team's ass, beat him down to.

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 2>The white meat. How did Dirk win MVP that year?

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, you know, like y'all don't notice, but the

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 2>MVP up until Dirk, you had to get out of

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the first round to be able to be considered the MVP,

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 2>or they would go ahead and give it to somebody else.

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 2>This is when the Mark Cuban effect comes into play,

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:00.320
<v Speaker 2>right when your owner goes to your back about it

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and goes for your back and actually does his campaign

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 2>on his behalf to his board of partners, and that

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 2>had to go into play at some point because when

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you when y'all did that, that totally ripped the hole

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 2>in the whole plan of whatever it was supposed to be.

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.520
<v Speaker 2>That was not supposed to happen. So now you got

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing on the backs of these misfits who

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 2>coming in here doing something that they weren't supposed to

0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:27.360
<v Speaker 2>what whoa, whoa what y'all not fuck the matrix up? Man?

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:29.120
<v Speaker 2>What are y'all doing? And then look who wonder what

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 2>hot what? And messed it up? Y'all wasn't supposed to

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:34.919
<v Speaker 2>do that. And now the same the first thing I said,

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 2>this man, how is this man winning the MVP? I'm

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna be quiet. When he was, he was washing him,

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:45.239
<v Speaker 2>bro I watched it. I was head on swivel when

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I was, And before you know it, you had the

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 2>whole NBA just riding with y'all. So that that shit

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 2>was gorgeo.

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Because Nelly helped build that team, and Nelly was the

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 4>first one to put me and Jack on dirt, so

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 4>we put smaller, stronger people in there.

0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Every time he turned, he was.

0:53:58.080 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 2>On his ass. He knew it and just bullied the

0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:07.040
<v Speaker 2>early Dirk did not want to know he was. He

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 2>was very fragile. He listen. I say two things about

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Dirk pargasol and y'all mean, they adjusted so fast. I

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:20.920
<v Speaker 2>saw Jan Browley punk y'all mean in preseason, and I

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 2>don't know what Steve Francis said that, y'all mean. But

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 2>the next night I saw him. You know what I mean,

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:29.800
<v Speaker 2>He was dunking them one boy and dropped stepping in

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:31.759
<v Speaker 2>And that was the y'all mean I had known to.

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 2>Dirk did the same thing. First time I played Dirk.

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I got a sense of fear from him. So I

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 2>played it that I was dunking out raw And you know,

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Dallas got these mics in the rioms. So when you

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.600
<v Speaker 2>sound like you going in there, oh man, great atmosphere

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 2>to player, right, that's great atmosphere. Shot the Mark Cuban too, man,

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:50.439
<v Speaker 2>because he changed a lot of coach in the NBA, y'all.

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people don't know, man. He started feeding

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 2>players way before any of this. He started feeding both

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 2>sides of like competition and his own players. Like when

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 2>you after the after the game, yard, do you know

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I had to either have the ball boys run across

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 2>the street and grab some taco bell or some fucking

0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's or something upstairs in the concord to be able

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 2>to have food. Or then I'm eighteen nineteen. I can't

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 2>get in no strip clar I can't get in nothing

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 2>after the Oh no, young fella, you can't come in here.

0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 2>And uh we ain't in serving dreams too, Yeah you gotta.

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 2>It was always like I had to go through the

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 2>back door some dog like being young in the league

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:25.839
<v Speaker 2>or no. It was a whole nother. But Mark Cuban

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 2>started providing real meals. I'm talking about like barbecue, like

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 2>cramwall like you got god damn greens College's two different menues,

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 2>chicken fry this day, fight.

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:39.399
<v Speaker 3>That mother barba.

0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:41.719
<v Speaker 2>You know what I did, dog, I used to make

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:44.319
<v Speaker 2>my food and walk all the way around and thank

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 2>him because just to shit out there, I say, mister

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Mark Cuban, thank you for the food.

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. Now the food is like a customary thing.

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Now you gotta have it in the league. But he

0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:53.320
<v Speaker 2>started that.

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 5>Mark Cuban started all that. You were also one of

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.520
<v Speaker 5>the leaders too. If you look at his organization, the

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 5>people be hired. He got a lot of players that

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:02.959
<v Speaker 5>played for him working for him.

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Now, right, and that Mark Cuban.

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, all these teams, a lot of teams that got

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 5>ex players that want jobs, that want to work with

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 5>the teams they played for. Look at Mark Cuban co

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:15.799
<v Speaker 5>from coaching rotters to work it to Mike Finler working

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:16.240
<v Speaker 5>in the office.

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>But it's a lot of his players. You got to

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>get them credit for that. Listen, man, I'm banking that

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 2>at some point Dirk's gonna buy into the team and

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:25.440
<v Speaker 2>he's going to probably well, no question, I mean, it's

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:28.040
<v Speaker 2>only right. I was rested piece of my dog. I

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 2>was waiting on cold to do the same thing. Though,

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 2>real talk, you know, I tell p all the time

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you was with Boston, you should be able to have

0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:36.479
<v Speaker 2>the ability. I think that if you put enough blud

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 2>sweating TIS and these older organizations, you should have at

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.360
<v Speaker 2>least the option to be able to buy into or

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 2>be able to have a piece of the hell you

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>have building. And then that's not given. You earned that

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 2>earned that. I got the Minnesota man. That ship was

0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 2>like worth eighty nine million a summer. He paid a

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 2>couple of joints. Man, we got in ten years in

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 2>that that ship was almost at a billion.

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:57.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, like you don't get none of that. You know,

0:56:57.520 --> 0:56:59.800
<v Speaker 2>you don't get none of that, that appreciation for that,

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:01.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know that culture and then what people know

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and why they're coming to the games. You built all

0:57:04.239 --> 0:57:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that and sweat blood and equity, and you don't get

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 2>a choice of being that. That has to change at

0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>some point. I love it.

0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:12.120
<v Speaker 4>So, like I said, we did that, and we did

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 4>that No. Seven and then we heard rumors. I don't

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 4>know if if you even even heard the ship, but

0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 4>we it was word that we were going after you

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 4>for a whole package and you were supposed to come

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 4>complete us as our centerpiece to our crazy Yeah.

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I heard about y'all. Man, this so we've been We've

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 2>been talking about this for years.

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:35.480
<v Speaker 3>We spoke on this all the time.

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Heard it like when we heard on the team.

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 5>Was Chipping sending anybody then KG sitting the whole team

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 5>to coach anybody we need KG.

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I never know you knew about it. I looked

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 2>at it like this. I was like, man, I got

0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:52.160
<v Speaker 2>one chance at this, right I had I had Uh,

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I had Oakland, I had Phoenix, I had the Lakers

0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and I had the Celtics, and uh, I'm just being

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.320
<v Speaker 2>honest with everybody. I wanted to link with Cold because

0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Covid and I had like a listen to me, Covid

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and I had like a different, a different connect. Like

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 2>when Covid Shaq went went went on their little thing,

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people went with Shack. A lot of

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 2>people didn't even fuck with Cold, you know, Cold whatever.

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to want the very few that just stayed

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 2>with him, and just see I was a neutral guy anyway.

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I show everybody love you Cold love dog, but Cold

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 2>respect dogs like like like real like real cat start.

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.400
<v Speaker 2>If you ever noticed, he never really got into it

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.439
<v Speaker 2>with somebody that he really respected, you know what I'm saying.

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I watched when you and him went out and

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:41.840
<v Speaker 2>you threw the ball, he flinched. It was a form

0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 2>of respect there that he was. They was talking. Nobody noticed,

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:47.560
<v Speaker 2>but they was talking Simon thaneous like Nike, I wish

0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 2>you would hit me with this ball. You got more

0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 2>respect than me than that. So him and Matt was

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I already knew that. But players know this, and then

0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you already know who I'm if we get into it

0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 2>and we get to tech, it's verbal and we bumping.

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:01.720
<v Speaker 2>We bumping. I'm already knowing what he's saying to me

0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 2>without even talking. So that's how we used to ship

0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 2>real shit, like not even thinking. That's how players actually

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 2>was talking to dealing with each other. So whenever I

0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:13.440
<v Speaker 2>would watch him get into it with somebody and he

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 2>actually would get into it, it was either because he

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't respect them and it went like that, or he

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 2>respect him and then went a whole other way.

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people don't know. That's how. Like when we got

0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:22.960
<v Speaker 3>into it in twenty ten, the.

0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Ball faked shit like he was the first person to

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:26.800
<v Speaker 4>call me free agency, like, Yo, you want to come

0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 4>be your laker?

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Anyone crazy enough to fuck with me?

0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:28.840
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy?

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:30.520
<v Speaker 3>And he went and got Ron the year before when

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Ron was in Houston.

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I'm tired of wrestling with you crazy motherfuckers,

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 4>come fuck with me.

0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, I tried to link with him and I couldn't

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 2>get him on the line, and people was like, yo, man, shit,

0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:46.080
<v Speaker 2>manlet's donna do shit. You know a picture? Oh yeah,

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:51.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And Chauncey and Tlou we

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 2>used to all work out together in LA, and we

0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 2>was all together in Minnesota. When they say that you

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:58.680
<v Speaker 2>can go talk to people, that's when they're done with you.

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:02.080
<v Speaker 2>You permission to go talk to other teams. And when

1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:05.640
<v Speaker 2>they give you permission to entertain mother other options, they

1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 2>over you. They moved on. So y'all don't know, yo,

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I get up at like four thirty. You know why

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I get up at four thirty Cause I live in LA.

1:00:12.920 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 2>And it's a cat in New York getting up at seven.

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>He up already working already. Actually, if he got up

1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 2>at six, I'm an hour and thirty behind this cat.

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:23.560
<v Speaker 2>So I used to think, like this ami in New York,

1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 2>it's some cats on the East Coast, they already working

1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:28.120
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta. Damn, I'm late. So I used to hit

1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the beast like four thirty. And then I used to

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I used to go through all of us

1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 2>with the workout and then the gym, and then I'm

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:38.560
<v Speaker 2>done by like twelve, right, And then I used to think, like, damn, y'all,

1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 2>they don't even respect that nigga get up and through

1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:43.280
<v Speaker 2>this every day like this, then they gonna let me do.

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:47.080
<v Speaker 2>So I started losing appreciation for them appreciating me. I

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:49.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know what, somewhere somebody else gonna show

1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you some love, you know, or show you hope. So

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and then I sat with Chancey them cause they used

1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:54.800
<v Speaker 2>to meet me in the workout in the middle of

1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the workout when we went to the gym, and they

1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.320
<v Speaker 2>was like Chances like, Dad, you gotta get off that shit.

1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Him and t Lou was just sawing me like, yo,

1:01:01.640 --> 1:01:03.680
<v Speaker 2>you gotta this your chance to go get with somebody,

1:01:04.040 --> 1:01:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and you can give me somebody real you can man

1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that same shit you doing. And Soda boy, you gonna

1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:09.560
<v Speaker 2>put there with somebody else. Boy, you you know what

1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So I was like, shou, I shot at

1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:13.560
<v Speaker 2>kod He even really picked the line up, you know

1:01:13.600 --> 1:01:15.800
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, So tlew and cold close. So he

1:01:15.960 --> 1:01:18.400
<v Speaker 2>was like shoot at him again, see what he owns.

1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:20.120
<v Speaker 2>So I shot it. He ain't hit back. So I

1:01:20.560 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 2>had to make a decision coming down. And then you know,

1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm making decisions by my selfish shit. So this is

1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the first time I got to I'm talking to my

1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:31.120
<v Speaker 2>my wife at the time, and I'm like asking her

1:01:31.280 --> 1:01:33.600
<v Speaker 2>like and She's like, go with your gut. So I

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:35.720
<v Speaker 2>was like, shit, Danny Ainge's flew in and he just

1:01:35.800 --> 1:01:39.600
<v Speaker 2>got right to it and showed the vision and the

1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:42.520
<v Speaker 2>vision he was saying, you better have somebody talk to you.

1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:44.840
<v Speaker 2>And as they talk to you, you can see what

1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:47.640
<v Speaker 2>they're saying so much that you're not even looking at

1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:50.440
<v Speaker 2>them no more. But you see, that's how he was painting,

1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and he was ra Picasso. And this is Danny Inge's

1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:56.040
<v Speaker 2>greatness in him being able to lure you in his

1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:58.680
<v Speaker 2>charming ass. You know what I'm saying. I didn't even

1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:01.000
<v Speaker 2>know he was finessing me and were do you know

1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:04.560
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, sauted like

1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:07.080
<v Speaker 2>a mother for the right. But then what I did

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<v Speaker 2>know I had watched him a couple of times and

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<v Speaker 2>when I first off film of Rondo in Massive Square Guard,

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<v Speaker 2>he got the crazy clip of he scored the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he stole it and didn't get an N

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<v Speaker 2>one and something. So I saw that, but I thought

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<v Speaker 2>his name, my a d d Ass thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>African and some ship. So I was like, yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 2>up with the little African guards? I'm talking about Sebastian. Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know Sebastian. I'm talking about the little the the

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<v Speaker 2>little African niggas, So you like African. I was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know June or something. He was like like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about race John, You're talking about Rondo. Like yeah, Rono,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta keep you gotta keep the African kid. Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>If I come to the Boston, you gotta keep the

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<v Speaker 2>African kid because he was in the package. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, uh uh, I think he's gonna no, we

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it then. And then I actually called Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Nash just to the courtesy and the the the U

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the car. He hit me back, was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>if you come down here, we need you to take

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<v Speaker 2>a major pay cut.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, uh if I come down there,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm playing with you. I'm playing with you and us

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<v Speaker 2>uh Mari right said yeah, I think they gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>a Mari up for you and sh and and and Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, so hold on me.

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<v Speaker 3>This me and you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like yeah. I was like, so I gotta pake

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<v Speaker 2>a pay cut and then I gotta get back in

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<v Speaker 2>this position. And we in the west two y'ard so

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<v Speaker 2>this ain't you know. I'm sitting here like man, so

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<v Speaker 2>little yeah, alright, let me do wanna man, let me

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<v Speaker 2>think about all this shit like sh sh, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So I just sat on it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like now I'm I'm going to Beantown. Plus it's the

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<v Speaker 2>East Coast. I ain't never playing the East Coast. So

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<v Speaker 2>he ain't give us a thumb. I when I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at all my options, we was at the Boospec respectful,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, because I was seeing how

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<v Speaker 2>y'all was. But I needed I needed a superstar in

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<v Speaker 2>that whole mix. Always you always like some bandits, You

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<v Speaker 2>always like they always like the little the little rats

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<v Speaker 2>on City of God running around stealing shot. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. You have to respect them little niggas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, the rats, y'all, y'all know

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<v Speaker 2>City of God rat the little niggas, and that they are. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>they was little hood looms. They ran the street. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how y'all was. Joe's like, oh man, they switch everything.

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<v Speaker 2>They got this on orthodox. You're thinking, Steven here balowitchis

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<v Speaker 2>stopping hitting the three, now get up. He ain't dunking

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<v Speaker 2>that like it was just so unorthodox. At the time

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<v Speaker 2>that y'all had had the whole league like off the

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<v Speaker 2>square like and then it's like they look like they

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<v Speaker 2>just having fun. I can't come over there with my

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<v Speaker 2>serious as everything. You know what I'm I'm just looking

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<v Speaker 2>at it like I want to play against me, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm on the inside were looking at it like, boy,

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<v Speaker 5>we imagine KG with pace beaches with KG. It's a difference, wow,

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<v Speaker 5>with all us on the outside actually having somebody thought

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<v Speaker 5>it because you know, Al.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to go out, y'all mean s and then y'all

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, man I was, But when y'all mean turn

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<v Speaker 2>it's really nothing nobody can do. Y'all like like y'all's

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<v Speaker 2>jump shots like all the way up here, like you

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<v Speaker 2>like on the turnaround, You're like, man, do what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 5>You have two days off after we played, y'all get it.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what Al used to actually keep him

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<v Speaker 5>out the paint.

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<v Speaker 2>If you do if you do your work early, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the that's the kind of the lingo and where

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<v Speaker 2>you don't let him come down and sit on the blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all mean, can damn it be at the three point

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<v Speaker 2>line and do the same turnaround and hit it like

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<v Speaker 2>it was nothing. Y'all's touch a man A shot that

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<v Speaker 2>y'all mean man, that would be another y'all mean like

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<v Speaker 2>that man he was. He was specially straight up. But

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up doing the Boston thing. And then on

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<v Speaker 2>Draft night they got Ray and uh it made the

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<v Speaker 2>whole deal a lot sweeter, and we was we was

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<v Speaker 2>going after that bro. I knew we was going to

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<v Speaker 2>no bullshit. I knew he was gonna win that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time I we stepped into like the first

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<v Speaker 2>like you know how like September coming you all work

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<v Speaker 2>out together, and I saw how the how that ship was.

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<v Speaker 2>I had never been in like our first workout with

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<v Speaker 2>guys I had never played with and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>it was just, it was just it was just. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the guys we was playing against the change posey

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<v Speaker 2>fucking like we were just playing a bunch of the

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<v Speaker 2>next Eddie House, a bunch of just Tony Allen Man

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<v Speaker 2>go get us, big Perk, Leon Poe by in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Nate won there yet next year, just the first year

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<v Speaker 2>we was all together, and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard Folk come in. I heard Folk tell the

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<v Speaker 2>story about when we first played you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying like it was. But the synergy was that day one.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew, I knew we had a chance to get

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere that we was not normal from when I doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>This wasn't normal. This was above average right here. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 4>So you guys kind of started, I mean through a

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<v Speaker 4>different process. But the big three, you mean, Y, Paul, yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>you get Ray, Draft Knight, mm and the synergies instant.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, the synergy's instant. You know, the synergy

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<v Speaker 3>is yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess where you put it like that? Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>in advertently and it virt We wasn't like mapping it

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<v Speaker 2>out like that. I think Ray was trying to come

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<v Speaker 2>back east too, uh because of his uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he had foundings in Connecticut and uh family that was

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<v Speaker 2>you know in that area or whatever. So he was

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to come back and trans transition and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of let that be like the tell end and be

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<v Speaker 2>on their side. So I think it was all just

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<v Speaker 2>synergy with him and then it just all came together.

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<v Speaker 2>It helped that Paul and I was friends. I knew Ray,

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<v Speaker 2>uh and and I we were friends, uh, but we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know none of the younger guys. Ta was a

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<v Speaker 2>younger version of Chicago. When I was in Chicago, Leon Poe,

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<v Speaker 2>they was all younger versions. Big Baby he was all

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<v Speaker 2>younger versions. I had new Perk Hat plays against Perk

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<v Speaker 2>Perk and I used to play like we used to bang.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like really have issues with each other, to

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<v Speaker 2>where I had to ask people like, Yo, you know

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<v Speaker 2>we're coming over there, Perk gonna be okay, because man,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know, like when we go at it, we

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<v Speaker 2>really about to fight. He'd be like, you know how

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<v Speaker 2>like if one person like going years over bail, you

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<v Speaker 2>know one gonna wait, you know that's come down like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Yo, why this little hogh haired

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<v Speaker 2>nigga like gobba jass nigga coming out here like coolig

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<v Speaker 2>you trash nig I'm not gonna interact with you nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>Like who is this? Not knowing that he's coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of high school, he's looking up to me, he trying

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<v Speaker 2>to he's trying to you know, we're trying to trying

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<v Speaker 2>to raise this ship. I raised him. But I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't who is nigga?

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<v Speaker 3>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>Kendrick who? Nobody? Nigga? Nobody I gave him twelve, like

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<v Speaker 2>real quick, I better get this nobody off me out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Who you think I ain't no nobody you.

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<v Speaker 5>Want?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, saying nigga, what you're saying, Speak up, nigga,

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<v Speaker 2>bet my head, buddy, speak up, nigga. You ain't talking

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<v Speaker 2>loud enough, nigga. We both got texts, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. But I'm but I'm going t t on

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<v Speaker 2>that team. They bunch of young cats, our jeffinit So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in here, golden and they ship throwing it. Please

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<v Speaker 2>know that ship out of here. Mind. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. It's messing with him saying what you know

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<v Speaker 2>what they you know he was so they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as we say, see if he gonna scratch. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>scratched it. Okay. Yeah, I like these young cats. I

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<v Speaker 2>knew what I had with that, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>because there was a whole bunch of young guys coming

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<v Speaker 2>up in the league that we was needing to have

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<v Speaker 2>some young guys that kind of you know, met that too,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was good.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me what it was like getting a chance to

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<v Speaker 4>play with Paul Pierce because to me, he's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the most underrated most stores, clutch motherfuckers in the history

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<v Speaker 4>the gas footwork all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen man, Me and P played together very young in life.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, if anybody know PEP is very similar to

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<v Speaker 2>like a stepf or like an AI. When I interact

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<v Speaker 2>with like A, I would say a bigger ego than mine. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I played a second And if anybody know me, know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm a very confident person, very sure person, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can play the side. I'm never gonna play the front.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a side door, I'm off to the side.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more of a shadow person. My nigga Pee is

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<v Speaker 2>totally opposite of Now you want to come through the

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<v Speaker 2>front door, won't there? Ignoring him trove he gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's swagged. Yeah, So with that, he was always able

1:10:38.479 --> 1:10:40.519
<v Speaker 2>to back that up from when we was talking trash

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<v Speaker 2>and when we got into whatever. It wasn't something that

1:10:43.120 --> 1:10:45.799
<v Speaker 2>he couldn't get himself out of. But that's how he operated.

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<v Speaker 2>He needed that that extra whatever that owned for that

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<v Speaker 2>or that swag to get him to perpetuate. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw him in some of the most critical moments

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<v Speaker 2>be very calm and very even played and even killed

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<v Speaker 2>to where he was so sure of himself to where

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<v Speaker 2>he took big shots and he hit him. My favor

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite p joint is him and Al Harrington. People

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that these two are really good friends, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're all really good friends, and these are two monsters.

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<v Speaker 2>If anybody know, al Ay backing down from nothing. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like, al Ain't going nowhere, y'all

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<v Speaker 2>think Jack, like imagine Jack, Well, no, I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>that were another two hundred pounds, but Alis just right there,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack like the meadoworld, p Jack, you getting the same,

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<v Speaker 2>You better come with a hard hat. And when he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to that shit, I'm gonna hit you in

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<v Speaker 2>the here, right here, I'm letting you know, let you

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<v Speaker 2>know right now, well let me see it then let

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<v Speaker 2>me see Okay, you want to see it? And I

1:11:46.360 --> 1:11:49.479
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh and when p hits like straight, that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite basketball moments just because both of

1:11:52.439 --> 1:11:54.960
<v Speaker 2>those guys are my friends. But I was able to

1:11:55.040 --> 1:11:57.200
<v Speaker 2>take something from Paul that some of that even killed,

1:11:57.240 --> 1:12:00.320
<v Speaker 2>some of that calmness, some of that that laser like

1:12:00.439 --> 1:12:02.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, you think you're focused until you see somebody else,

1:12:02.720 --> 1:12:05.439
<v Speaker 2>do there or go through there? Whatevers. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to, you know, take some of that commonness and

1:12:07.760 --> 1:12:09.760
<v Speaker 2>incorporate it into some of my own games to where

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it made me a better player. But T

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<v Speaker 2>is probably one of the most underrated players of all

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<v Speaker 2>times that we that we have in our history that

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<v Speaker 2>don't get enough slack for, don't get enough of recognition.

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<v Speaker 4>In my tape, you were able to help bring back

1:12:25.479 --> 1:12:30.920
<v Speaker 4>the Celtics Laker rivalry. You guys met in the finals.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys got one, they got one. Tell me what

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<v Speaker 4>it was like going against Shaq and Kobe with your squad.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I got to Boston. Now would battle the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>It was always the premier game. It was nothing less.

1:12:42.640 --> 1:12:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Playing Shack was always entertaining, It was always hierarchy was

1:12:48.360 --> 1:12:53.559
<v Speaker 2>always it was always the pinnacle. Cope and I knew

1:12:53.600 --> 1:12:55.479
<v Speaker 2>each other. Shaq and I would befriend each other and

1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:59.920
<v Speaker 2>become friends later, but the match ups was always higher

1:13:00.000 --> 1:13:03.439
<v Speaker 2>and there was always electric I was always felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I was under man so when I had perk, who

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<v Speaker 2>would who battle? Who would battle anybody? And don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about anything? Right, Shaq was in Cleveland as we was

1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:16.360
<v Speaker 2>making our runs and stuff, so I felt like this

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<v Speaker 2>is a great time to have redemption on that whole

1:13:18.960 --> 1:13:21.519
<v Speaker 2>COVID shack thing in the West. I felt like this

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<v Speaker 2>was redemption and now you know, they was kind of separated,

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<v Speaker 2>so that when I when I actually went up against

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<v Speaker 2>both of those guys, it felt like a payback for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But that ship won less than one, less than magical,

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<v Speaker 2>like epic, like not a lot of shit talking out here,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a lot of buckets. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of tapping, it's a lot of you know,

1:13:44.160 --> 1:13:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot you better get over here, like you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, and and there's a bunch of it. Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't no switching. And it was win both ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though the big fellow was big and he knew

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<v Speaker 2>he was a house I told him. He came out

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<v Speaker 2>to Cleveland and then doctors like, yo, I need you

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<v Speaker 2>to guard Shock. For like two minutes. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>holy shit, guarden shack is like holding up the side

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<v Speaker 2>of a house shaw. I was trying to see a

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<v Speaker 2>wall in here, see a fist of wall. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even describe it. But I played Shock for two minutes

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<v Speaker 2>and couldn't give nobody no high five. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>like the arms was so tired, y'all. I couldn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't Like if you slapped me, I would have to

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<v Speaker 2>be like you know what I'm saying. I couldn't even go.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even protect myself. But playing those two brought

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<v Speaker 2>the best out of you every time you played them.

1:14:34.200 --> 1:14:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Every time you played COVID was nothing shy or nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing less than the electric and it was all about

1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:43.880
<v Speaker 2>uh winds. It was all about wins and rings. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I got the Boston it was just it was

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<v Speaker 2>just just different times. But I've always enjoyed playing against

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<v Speaker 2>those guys. There was always a challenge to play those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was always hard to get a win on them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying straight up?

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<v Speaker 4>So a Hall of Fame career, I mean, you'll go

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<v Speaker 4>inducted at twenty twenty. I mean, tell me what that

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<v Speaker 4>kid from South Carolina that came up the way you

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<v Speaker 4>came up Mom's working graveyard, You having to do what

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<v Speaker 4>you have to do to everythink that twenty five years

1:15:10.320 --> 1:15:11.840
<v Speaker 4>later you could be abducting to the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me what that feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought that. I never really I never really

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<v Speaker 2>cite my I really never put that on the goal,

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<v Speaker 2>never put that on the paper. It was all about

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<v Speaker 2>busting these guys asked right here and crossing their name out.

1:15:22.840 --> 1:15:24.800
<v Speaker 2>It was always about being the best in this right

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<v Speaker 2>here and putting your name at the top and that

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<v Speaker 2>and that, and that was it. I never really imagine

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<v Speaker 2>taking this and being global. I never had a vision

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<v Speaker 2>of that. I just wanted to be able to have

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<v Speaker 2>a list of motherfuckers that you thought was better than me,

1:15:37.600 --> 1:15:39.800
<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to bust all they ass And that

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<v Speaker 2>was it.

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<v Speaker 4>Cob had a kill list too. We talked, we got

1:15:42.800 --> 1:15:44.760
<v Speaker 4>kill You need a little kill list. What you're doing,

1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:47.679
<v Speaker 4>You ain't got no vision who you chasing, who you being?

1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:48.719
<v Speaker 4>Who the king in the mountain?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, right, that's what That's what competition is, Joe. It's

1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:54.120
<v Speaker 2>about who's on king in the mountain, who's on top,

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<v Speaker 2>and how and how you can take him off that

1:15:56.400 --> 1:15:58.599
<v Speaker 2>or her, you know what I'm saying, like straight up.

1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And then that's polishing your tools and at the same

1:16:01.000 --> 1:16:03.840
<v Speaker 2>time pushing it. You know, you gotta push this line

1:16:04.040 --> 1:16:07.880
<v Speaker 2>of creativity, gotta push the lines of competition, gotta push

1:16:07.920 --> 1:16:10.479
<v Speaker 2>this line of originality. You know, like for me that

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<v Speaker 2>that's everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Jack and I are someone who we've talked about this

1:16:14.360 --> 1:16:17.759
<v Speaker 4>with other guests, you know, guys that used cannabis throughout

1:16:17.760 --> 1:16:20.000
<v Speaker 4>our career because we felt like it helped us sleep,

1:16:20.360 --> 1:16:21.800
<v Speaker 4>pain folks, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think, how with the narrative finally shifting

1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:27.880
<v Speaker 4>about cannabis, what about you your thoughts about cannabis and sports?

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<v Speaker 2>I think education, man, I think when it comes to cannabis,

1:16:30.760 --> 1:16:34.080
<v Speaker 2>people have to understand that uh. I think they see

1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:37.160
<v Speaker 2>cannabis in their recreational use, and educational has to come

1:16:37.200 --> 1:16:41.080
<v Speaker 2>out about the about the uh, the healing parts of them,

1:16:41.160 --> 1:16:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the benefits of it. I think I think as a

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<v Speaker 2>so society meaning that it's some more older or more

1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:50.960
<v Speaker 2>older society thinking of the ways of recreations to more

1:16:51.000 --> 1:16:54.320
<v Speaker 2>millennials and younger kids, is really exposing and giving this

1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:58.400
<v Speaker 2>education to the benefits. And I think our society is changing,

1:16:58.439 --> 1:17:01.240
<v Speaker 2>and I think everybody's starting to see the more and

1:17:01.320 --> 1:17:05.000
<v Speaker 2>poorly the benefits. I think the sooners they get CBDs

1:17:05.240 --> 1:17:08.679
<v Speaker 2>into sports, I think we'll start to see a bigger change.

1:17:08.840 --> 1:17:11.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, you guys don't know that we probably take

1:17:11.160 --> 1:17:13.960
<v Speaker 2>about sixty seven pills a night before we play no clue.

1:17:14.000 --> 1:17:15.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's just to be able to step on the court.

1:17:16.200 --> 1:17:19.200
<v Speaker 2>You got innocent, you got vijaks, you got too taller

1:17:19.240 --> 1:17:21.240
<v Speaker 2>and oil, you got two avias. The kidney is over

1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:23.960
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be able to process for so much. If

1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:27.080
<v Speaker 2>we're not hydrating and bringing liquids and fluids and draining

1:17:27.160 --> 1:17:30.240
<v Speaker 2>that your liver is catching all that, your kidneys are

1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:32.960
<v Speaker 2>catching all that, man, Believe it or not, it makes

1:17:33.000 --> 1:17:34.880
<v Speaker 2>a difference. It makes a difference in joint pain to

1:17:34.920 --> 1:17:36.320
<v Speaker 2>be able to sit a pill, just how we sit.

1:17:36.800 --> 1:17:41.240
<v Speaker 2>If your shit is hurting, hey, motherfuck out them and

1:17:41.360 --> 1:17:43.880
<v Speaker 2>listen and shit is popping, and shit is moving, and

1:17:44.000 --> 1:17:46.880
<v Speaker 2>get out. This seat is an issue. And you never

1:17:46.960 --> 1:17:49.120
<v Speaker 2>think about that ship as you're putting it in and

1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:51.679
<v Speaker 2>as you're going you just think about, you know, short

1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:56.240
<v Speaker 2>term solutions. Cannapis has brought some of those solutions to

1:17:56.479 --> 1:17:59.320
<v Speaker 2>to date to where they're more beneficial for the organs

1:17:59.360 --> 1:18:01.840
<v Speaker 2>and for your every day believe it or not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I always say to who's his own, use his own,

1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Just be respectful and responsible with it.

1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:13.799
<v Speaker 4>Home stretch right here, your top five team without yourself,

1:18:13.840 --> 1:18:16.360
<v Speaker 4>who's your top who's your starting five minus yourself.

1:18:17.600 --> 1:18:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go magic Cole Jordan's Wilton shot, going really big,

1:18:24.560 --> 1:18:27.720
<v Speaker 2>really firm. I want to be to switch. I want

1:18:27.760 --> 1:18:30.840
<v Speaker 2>to be to switch one through three, Funnel everything to

1:18:30.920 --> 1:18:33.599
<v Speaker 2>the middle, big fella. Lay everybody out on my bench.

1:18:33.680 --> 1:18:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I got, yeah, I got, I got, I know, I

1:18:36.040 --> 1:18:39.040
<v Speaker 2>got Russell, and I got Russell on my bench because

1:18:39.040 --> 1:18:40.960
<v Speaker 2>he gonna come in and bring a whole nother pain.

1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I got Aljah on at my four. I gotta put

1:18:45.080 --> 1:18:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Jamal Mashburn because he's one of my favorite players. Three

1:18:49.479 --> 1:18:52.600
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, I'm gonna put Steph in the yard my

1:18:52.760 --> 1:18:59.000
<v Speaker 2>one and two just because I love you. Man A

1:18:59.479 --> 1:19:02.439
<v Speaker 2>probably an other superstar who doesn't really get a lot

1:19:02.520 --> 1:19:06.439
<v Speaker 2>of recognition off of I was a goddamn beyond a superstar.

1:19:06.720 --> 1:19:10.160
<v Speaker 2>He was a he was a culturally superstar. He was

1:19:10.439 --> 1:19:14.200
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't afraid of anything. Anything he was he was.

1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:18.280
<v Speaker 2>He was really the example of small ball and really

1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:22.400
<v Speaker 2>taking it to another level. Hey, y'all, dude, I called

1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:25.479
<v Speaker 2>him a easy because he make everything look easy and

1:19:25.800 --> 1:19:27.680
<v Speaker 2>shout the AI man and everything he did.

1:19:27.800 --> 1:19:30.479
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, real ship, Seeing that we're

1:19:30.520 --> 1:19:32.639
<v Speaker 4>here at all Star, what is what is your favorite

1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:33.639
<v Speaker 4>All Star moment?

1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Favorite All Star moment events sitting on the floor, believe

1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:44.640
<v Speaker 2>it or not, I got that footage to y'all know, yeah, no,

1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:49.479
<v Speaker 2>no it come see me, motherfuckers think y'all getting this

1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:52.560
<v Speaker 2>ship for free. Y'all kissed my eyes right, going that

1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:56.320
<v Speaker 2>ink hollow right, But I got that. That was probably

1:19:56.360 --> 1:19:58.960
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite because all my friends was probably

1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:01.040
<v Speaker 2>two couple of rolls and we got to see that,

1:20:01.160 --> 1:20:02.720
<v Speaker 2>and it was the first time the world got to

1:20:02.800 --> 1:20:05.840
<v Speaker 2>really see Vince like we knew Vin's in high school,

1:20:05.840 --> 1:20:07.680
<v Speaker 2>grew up with Da Da YadA, and for him to

1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:10.599
<v Speaker 2>like put that on display like that and just give

1:20:10.680 --> 1:20:14.759
<v Speaker 2>us an unbelievable A lot of people don't know Tracy

1:20:14.880 --> 1:20:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and Steve too. Stacy and Stevens on that too, you

1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:19.200
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. That was one of the better

1:20:19.240 --> 1:20:24.160
<v Speaker 2>before Zach and Gordon. Uh, that was probably my favorite.

1:20:24.200 --> 1:20:26.760
<v Speaker 2>That was probably my favorite. Uh dounk I tell some time.

1:20:26.840 --> 1:20:29.240
<v Speaker 2>But out of all the stuff men I've I've always

1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:32.519
<v Speaker 2>been able to pull some out of each All Star Game,

1:20:33.280 --> 1:20:35.439
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorites was coming out. I was getting

1:20:35.479 --> 1:20:39.040
<v Speaker 2>ready to I was leaving the All Star Game and

1:20:39.080 --> 1:20:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I had a bag of stuff and I was coming

1:20:40.760 --> 1:20:43.439
<v Speaker 2>out and Craig Sager needed an interview for his clothes

1:20:43.479 --> 1:20:45.160
<v Speaker 2>out and I didn't want to do it, and I

1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>was trying to, you know, we didn't hit back. Look

1:20:46.920 --> 1:20:48.400
<v Speaker 2>like you know, like you know how you play shadow,

1:20:48.439 --> 1:20:50.600
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to get by somebody. I'm like, trade what

1:20:50.640 --> 1:20:52.200
<v Speaker 2>you're doing. I gotta catch my plane, get the fuck

1:20:52.240 --> 1:20:55.519
<v Speaker 2>out of here, YadA, YadA. So my assistant shout the bill.

1:20:55.560 --> 1:20:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I call him shitty. I threw shitty the bag and said, yo,

1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:00.200
<v Speaker 2>shitt he takes this to the planet and trying to

1:21:00.200 --> 1:21:01.920
<v Speaker 2>get out, and he said, yo, just give me two seconds.

1:21:01.960 --> 1:21:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I need an hour. I said, get the funk out

1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:05.880
<v Speaker 2>of my way. And I kind of pushed him, you know,

1:21:05.920 --> 1:21:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I kind of gave him some whatever. And he was like, man,

1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I saw how he look. I said, come on, man,

1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:11.720
<v Speaker 2>fuck it, come on, and he and and I was,

1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:13.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say whatever I want to say. Okay,

1:21:13.720 --> 1:21:15.280
<v Speaker 2>just give me this. I just need thirty seconds to

1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:17.400
<v Speaker 2>get out of here. Okay, okay, okay, and go. And

1:21:17.479 --> 1:21:19.040
<v Speaker 2>then I saw what he had on. I looked and

1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I said, hold on, hold on. So look, you know,

1:21:24.000 --> 1:21:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I never try to go at you right, like what

1:21:25.880 --> 1:21:28.040
<v Speaker 2>the fuck? Like really, what the fuck is this dog?

1:21:28.920 --> 1:21:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Like really you came to the game like this dog

1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:33.120
<v Speaker 2>and he was trying to get an interview. I was like, Noah,

1:21:33.200 --> 1:21:36.040
<v Speaker 2>funck all that lo no burn all this ship, everything

1:21:36.120 --> 1:21:39.240
<v Speaker 2>the green throw to all this and all of it, yo,

1:21:39.439 --> 1:21:42.120
<v Speaker 2>and kind of gave him a little sound aboute and

1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:43.840
<v Speaker 2>see it what up and then got out of there

1:21:43.840 --> 1:21:45.360
<v Speaker 2>and I turned around and I was like, gave shot

1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:49.439
<v Speaker 2>your thanks, but yeah, like this, shout the crag ya and.

1:21:49.479 --> 1:21:51.400
<v Speaker 5>We know, I know we normally end the show y'all

1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:53.400
<v Speaker 5>with a with a begging segment, but before I do

1:21:53.560 --> 1:21:54.880
<v Speaker 5>my begging segment, I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>We have some stuff for you. We have some all

1:21:57.080 --> 1:21:59.360
<v Speaker 2>the smoke giar for you. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

1:21:59.439 --> 1:22:01.559
<v Speaker 2>So some of them that bongs pre rolls in that moll.

1:22:04.640 --> 1:22:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Don't cut me short now right, shout to the goat

1:22:08.840 --> 1:22:11.960
<v Speaker 2>as we're giving you your all the smoke gears past

1:22:12.280 --> 1:22:18.680
<v Speaker 2>my brother you the first one. But this is what

1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:24.760
<v Speaker 2>we do need though. This is this is Jersey. You

1:22:24.840 --> 1:22:25.920
<v Speaker 2>need house.

1:22:26.880 --> 1:22:29.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't care what team it is. You gotta pick

1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:31.320
<v Speaker 5>a team. I don't I don't care what team it is. Okay,

1:22:31.560 --> 1:22:34.080
<v Speaker 5>you were great your whole career to be all right,

1:22:34.479 --> 1:22:36.120
<v Speaker 5>I got you. That's all I need.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, that's a rap.

1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Man. We just really than your Chicago first live show,

1:22:43.000 --> 1:22:46.639
<v Speaker 2>real ship. It was live, but c K two y'all.

1:22:48.640 --> 1:22:52.080
<v Speaker 4>I think obviously in the tragedy of cold rest in peace.

1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:54.000
<v Speaker 4>We want to give you your flowers while you're here. Man,

1:22:54.040 --> 1:22:56.759
<v Speaker 4>We appreciate everything you did for the game, your greatness,

1:22:56.840 --> 1:22:59.200
<v Speaker 4>the way you've passed it to this next generation, and

1:22:59.360 --> 1:23:00.280
<v Speaker 4>just fucking be you.

1:23:00.439 --> 1:23:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1:23:00.600 --> 1:23:02.360
<v Speaker 3>We respect the ship. Have you for that, man, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, no doubt y'all. Man, goodloveciate you back for

1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:05.479
<v Speaker 3>you having y'all seen.

1:23:05.600 --> 1:23:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Man. Yeah, thanks ship, said Kate Gisel.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a rap with smoking in the back. Come sucking

1:23:10.920 --> 1:23:11.160
<v Speaker 3>with us.

1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:29.080
<v Speaker 2>N I gotta light, I gotta fe mm hmm mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>Mmm mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm