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Speaker 2: We needed to get this conversation started. Then I'm messed up.
Speaker 3: I don't have a Voice's.
Speaker 2: Important people in the city. If it ends, I feel
Speaker 2: bad for the kids here.
Speaker 3: You have a lot to prove, and you always feel
Speaker 3: like they don't.
Speaker 2: Believe in you.
Speaker 4: Once you're painted as a bad guy in the NBA,
Speaker 4: that's what you are.
Speaker 2: Sometimes your emotions take control and eventually you kind of
Speaker 2: turned into an aggression.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you gotta go through a storm to find some sunshine.
Speaker 2: How do you think piece is accomplished through war? Finish
Speaker 2: a new fish? Thank good time playing it? Lion looked decimitation,
Speaker 2: look fast, fucking loved it. I got a mass Damn
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Speaker 4: Shit, y'all gotta stop smoking indigo before noon. That's what
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Speaker 5: come here and make more noise in that.
Speaker 2: Man. How y'all doing show? Shi wall the motherfucker smoke.
Speaker 4: Welcome y'all, man all start twenty twenty coming to you, lo.
Speaker 4: This is our first live show, so we fuck up.
Speaker 4: Just keep going with it, y'all on our first live show.
Speaker 3: We appreciate y'all, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys taking time to come hang out with
Speaker 4: us today. We're just gonna have fun, talk shit, man,
Speaker 4: to see you. My brother God were out here. The
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Speaker 2: You good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out Sam. She got nice and dry.
Speaker 2: And she just usually wet. Yeah twenty.
Speaker 4: So we out here man, Like I said twenty twenty
Speaker 4: All Stars Chicago, It's an honor to be out here.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's coach is motherfucker out here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: It's stopped my smoking. Take if I got to smoke outside,
Speaker 4: I'm not smoking.
Speaker 2: It will just no. I don't say that.
Speaker 3: We just gonna limit the puffs six real quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get out.
Speaker 4: But anyway, man, without further ado, Man, I want to
Speaker 4: introduce to me one of the greatest power forwards ever to.
Speaker 3: Play the game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: And it's an honor to have him or he went
Speaker 4: to high school coming back out here and fuck with us.
Speaker 4: So man, So everyone welcome Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Man? Thank you brothers, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Up.
Speaker 2: Everybody's close to you.
Speaker 3: Get comfortable.
Speaker 2: Get comfortable man after the shop.
Speaker 3: Man, it's an honor. Man.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you taking the time to come fuck with
Speaker 4: us for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Thank y'all for having me on him. Man, I've been
Speaker 2: watching y'all joint. Man, y'all getting better and better. I
Speaker 2: told y'all this in the back. Man. This y'all got,
Speaker 2: y'all one. Man, appreciate it. I'm a huge fan. Man.
Speaker 4: But also ship before we go going, man, we want
Speaker 4: to welcome you to the Showtime family.
Speaker 2: Congratulations. Appreciate that. Congratulationship.
Speaker 4: Can you explain to the crowd a little bit about
Speaker 4: what you're doing with show Time now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Showtime and I teaming up partner up during the
Speaker 2: twenty five year decision on coming out of high school
Speaker 2: and the effects that has gotten us today in two twenty.
Speaker 2: Now I'm telling the story on how we got here.
Speaker 2: You know you watch, well where do I start? You
Speaker 2: watching how the moves and how these kids are playing.
Speaker 2: You're watching the styles and how they dressing. You're watching
Speaker 2: the swag, You're hearing the music. All that came somewhere.
Speaker 2: So I'm taking everybody and all these young millenniums on
Speaker 2: the timeline like an educational piece almost.
Speaker 3: You know, so who started this gangster shit? You about
Speaker 3: to show gangs?
Speaker 2: But you know, at some point it was a rip
Speaker 2: in it, you know, like it went a certain way
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it changed, and it
Speaker 2: changed for a reason, and then we're in that change.
Speaker 2: We've been in that change you started because I came
Speaker 2: after you, after you. What I'm saying ninety six was
Speaker 2: like a whole momentum ship for all of us, and
Speaker 2: us being in this. You know, I'm telling the story
Speaker 2: and documented. So you got trendsetters and everything brot.
Speaker 4: So, like you said, twenty five years removed from Farragut Academy,
Speaker 4: What what went into your decision to kylle j for me?
Speaker 2: You know what, man, A lot of people don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I had my I had. I had a lot of
Speaker 2: responsibility when I was younger. Man fucked up, not even
Speaker 2: not even that, but just you know, helping moms out.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm from South Carolina for everybody who don't know,
Speaker 2: And you know, you started working early down there, you know,
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, so you know, I was used to working
Speaker 2: that in a job early. So you know, I got
Speaker 2: in trouble in high school and got kicked out of school,
Speaker 2: and my mom shopping me up here just to change
Speaker 2: up my whole environment and you know, kind of getting
Speaker 2: me back on the on the right road a little bit.
Speaker 2: I had a friend of the coach in a camp
Speaker 2: at a Nike camp, and uh, she just basically just
Speaker 2: threw me in here, you know, just keep me to
Speaker 2: one hundred, you know, got got out of Millway, dropped
Speaker 2: my bag, told me take care of my little sister. So,
Speaker 2: you know, when I would go on these these college trips, man,
Speaker 2: it was all about going to find an assistant coach
Speaker 2: to open the open the gym. It was all about
Speaker 2: asking somebody for some permission to do something. I'm thinking
Speaker 2: to myself, man, I'm living like I'm grown as hell
Speaker 2: out here like gotta ask somebody go open the gym,
Speaker 2: like it just wasn't. It just wasn't. It was no
Speaker 2: synergy there for the love of the game and appreciation
Speaker 2: and progressing. It was there, But as far as a
Speaker 2: young man, I was living so fast, I was like nah.
Speaker 2: And then I had a chance to play Mike. Mike
Speaker 2: was out that year and had retired and I had
Speaker 2: I had a play with him in the in uh
Speaker 2: in a in a gym down here downtown. He let
Speaker 2: me play with him and some of the guys that
Speaker 2: he had and uh Isaiah Thomas was in there, and
Speaker 2: after we played, Isaiah pulled me to the side and
Speaker 2: gave me probably one of the more convincing conversations about
Speaker 2: just playing and and and having the opportunity to play
Speaker 2: and knowing the rules of those opportunities. And that's what
Speaker 2: really really just this documentary is about education, because if
Speaker 2: not for what Zeke told me in there, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I would have known that those options was
Speaker 2: even there to take advantage of. And that's that's really
Speaker 2: what this is about. I exposed a rule and the
Speaker 2: line that was really fine in there, that wasn't nobody contested.
Speaker 2: I don't think David Stirring, another of the league, thought
Speaker 2: a kid was gonna be able to uh do some
Speaker 2: of these things in these lines of opportunities. But it
Speaker 2: was there and I and I I tried it.
Speaker 4: We're gonna visit your career later on. But post retirement,
Speaker 4: what what what has been w W what are you like?
Speaker 3: What are you get to? Joid the most? Being done
Speaker 3: with this?
Speaker 2: Getting rest straight up? You you play so much, you
Speaker 2: train so much, You trained so hard that your down
Speaker 2: time and your time that you have to yourself is everything, right,
Speaker 2: you know, being able to you know, take my kids
Speaker 2: to school, being able to go to little crazy school,
Speaker 2: play thing, catch right, man, that's that's huge for me.
Speaker 2: So being able to do that, it's like everything. So
Speaker 2: that's probably the best part of retirement.
Speaker 3: People don't understand.
Speaker 4: I mean, like they said, they see our seasons eight months,
Speaker 4: some longer for others.
Speaker 3: If you go to the finals, go to the playoffs.
Speaker 4: But we may maybe take a month off, maybe three weeks.
Speaker 4: It depends on you. You know, maybe a little bit
Speaker 4: more needs to individual, but really it's it's it's it's
Speaker 4: it's eleven months around, you know, it's eleven out of
Speaker 4: twelve months working.
Speaker 2: You don't get like all this workload and what is it? Load? Man?
Speaker 2: I wish there was no such thing. We still been
Speaker 2: in the league, right, there's no such thing. We wouldn't
Speaker 2: allowed it. We didn't. We said we had a different pride,
Speaker 2: maybe the type of pride in our in our style
Speaker 2: of basketball. For you to be able to practice for
Speaker 2: two hours tour and a half. Some coaches practice practice hard.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about you and you in the next it
Speaker 2: had going really ham on each other, but you are
Speaker 2: pushing each other. Then after practice, matter of fact, before practice,
Speaker 2: you got a thirty forty five minute joint that you
Speaker 2: did on your own just for you individual. Then you
Speaker 2: then you actually practiced with everybody and then did everything
Speaker 2: with that. Then after practice you got another thirty forty
Speaker 2: five minutes just to sharpen everything. And that's because you
Speaker 2: know it's gonna come to you. You know, if it
Speaker 2: come down, you gotta be able to get a couple
Speaker 2: of buckets. You gotta they're gonna trap you gotta be
Speaker 2: So you working on six or seven different things every day.
Speaker 2: But you locked into that mentally, you locked into that
Speaker 2: that work. That plan is that that also you know
Speaker 2: that you took a pride in in that preparation and
Speaker 2: being prepared for those for those battles, and being prepared
Speaker 2: for those games. And and I never took that light.
Speaker 2: I never, I never, I never messed around with that.
Speaker 2: That was something that I took pride in. And then
Speaker 2: being able to play hurt. Then they played through something.
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about just on the court. Mom's
Speaker 2: going through man, something going through some the girl, this
Speaker 2: the cause, the house something. The dogs got this, The
Speaker 2: dogs got out, chased the neighbor down the court. She
Speaker 2: did you in the gated the alarm went off along
Speaker 2: over hered went off. You get multiple homes. Alarm in
Speaker 2: California went off. You gotta yeah, no, I'm in I'm
Speaker 2: in Denver right now. What's what like? You have no
Speaker 2: idea what all lives are like. But we create this
Speaker 2: and we work hard for it and we really ride
Speaker 2: for it. So just a different brand of basketball right now, really.
Speaker 4: And that's that's what kind of we strive to when
Speaker 4: we have our guesses, is to humanize you guys and
Speaker 4: humanize us because we go through the same shit everyone
Speaker 4: else goes. It's just everything is in front of the world,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And for us to be
Speaker 4: able to mentally focus on a public divorce or me
Speaker 4: having to whoop somebody's ass during the middle of the
Speaker 4: season and it's all over TMZ and ESPN, but we
Speaker 4: still have a job to do, or your mom passing away,
Speaker 4: you know, or just crazy things and we don't get
Speaker 4: no excuses. I mean, our job is go out there,
Speaker 4: you know, and to perform at the highest level. But
Speaker 4: at the same time, we're humans, so to be able
Speaker 4: to humanize and let everyone know like there's real ship,
Speaker 4: we gotta go through too. But we just don't have
Speaker 4: We don't have the time.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, man. The best thing about I guess
Speaker 2: disposition is that when you're going through that, a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't have no outlets for that. You can
Speaker 2: go out here on this court and act the goddamn
Speaker 2: fool and people be out here cheering your name, and
Speaker 2: really you out here screamings, cussing people out, swinging on
Speaker 2: the rim, just being that animal out here. But you
Speaker 2: are being able to get this lea able to release days.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's very shimmling to punching
Speaker 2: and punching bag or something. The lead or the game
Speaker 2: for me was a way to escape reality and let
Speaker 2: it all out.
Speaker 3: I love that Hollywood debut, man uncut.
Speaker 4: Yeah, KG is an accident.
Speaker 3: That's a big time b o siming, Hey, can we
Speaker 3: get a napkin too?
Speaker 5: And we post to see my boy. I gotta pause
Speaker 5: water man, hold on, we're falling off.
Speaker 2: Man, No, it's all good. I don't want to pull
Speaker 2: my water. It's so cold. I'd rather be high like
Speaker 2: that he got. I'm good.
Speaker 4: We got plenty of towns now around tower here. But
Speaker 4: tell me what it was like, you know, making your
Speaker 4: Hollywood debut and getting a chance to work with.
Speaker 2: Me man that bambooze and they told me I was
Speaker 2: gonna have like a little cameo in and so you
Speaker 2: think you're just gonna show up, be yourself, play a part,
Speaker 2: and uh it was that simple. I had the time
Speaker 2: to be able to do it. And at first I
Speaker 2: was like, let me let me hear the movie first.
Speaker 2: So I had to meet the Southeast brothers and we
Speaker 2: all had to.
Speaker 3: Meet big times.
Speaker 2: They were super nick fans. I showed up motherfuckers like
Speaker 2: the next really, all ain't got no room to talk
Speaker 2: right now, right We kind of did that for the
Speaker 2: first five to ten minutes. But then they was real dudes.
Speaker 2: They was real cool. They was embedded in the coach.
Speaker 2: I had seen a couple of their projects. I had
Speaker 2: been a fan. Didn't know that that was them. Uh
Speaker 2: they did the jay Z video that I was a
Speaker 2: huge fan of. I didn't even know. I just started
Speaker 2: them like these new intangibles about it, you know, And
Speaker 2: then they started taking me and walking me through this
Speaker 2: whole scenario of the movie, and it was just about
Speaker 2: me being myself. So I just the first thing I
Speaker 2: thought was like, man, can I mess up like playing yourself?
Speaker 2: Like just think about that, and I know you fuck
Speaker 2: that up. And I know being in the jury store
Speaker 2: Samelion man right, who has like no I can do?
Speaker 2: You know I can do I can play myself. So
Speaker 2: that became like, okay, you can do this. And then
Speaker 2: a little about little they started like piling stuff on
Speaker 2: like I was in another joint, then I was in
Speaker 2: another joint. Then I had you know, at first I
Speaker 2: had this mush to say and then it was like
Speaker 2: this much to say. Next thing, you know, I got.
Speaker 3: A that's a credit to you that saw you was
Speaker 3: good at it's a credit to you.
Speaker 2: He was killing. I got in there. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: I got a little book right here. I gotta go
Speaker 2: back and forth with Adam. Just got to go like this,
Speaker 2: I gotta do it. I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: is this man? Dope and ship. They was like, nah,
Speaker 2: I see how you were saying, and then just go
Speaker 2: You've been in the Jewey store before, like you know,
Speaker 2: just be your Yeah. So that's why it was so
Speaker 2: like natural. It came off natural.
Speaker 3: How was it working with Adam? He's one of my
Speaker 3: favorites Adam?
Speaker 2: Listen, man. I got to see Adam in his his
Speaker 2: in his greatness, his element. A lot of people don't notice.
Speaker 2: And when you step on the court with Michael Jordan,
Speaker 2: for all us who's been here and been there, you
Speaker 2: feel his greatness almost to the point where you like,
Speaker 2: damn the intimidated when you checking the kicks out start
Speaker 2: see you looking at him? You looking then you got him?
Speaker 2: You know why ain't looking at him? But you feel it.
Speaker 2: That's how I felt. He was so humble, he was
Speaker 2: so chill, but then again he had a when it
Speaker 2: was an action boom, oh man, you you just felt
Speaker 2: it like oh wow, you caught the same mind. You
Speaker 2: caught him looking and you call it looking like nigga,
Speaker 2: you got lines in this and I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: and you get caught up in it. But I was
Speaker 2: able to experience that, right, and it was it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: It was the unbelievable experience watching someone be great and
Speaker 2: something and play a role and be a totally different person.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: So NBA today versus twenty five years ago, if it
Speaker 5: is anything in the game that you would change today
Speaker 5: in today's game, what would you change.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, man, I wouldn't change anything because
Speaker 2: our game was way different. This brand of basketball is
Speaker 2: for this brand of kids, right, The brand of basketball
Speaker 2: in which we play was for that brand of individuals
Speaker 2: that was able to play that. You gotta understand, when
Speaker 2: you're playing the NBA team, you earn that position, they
Speaker 2: give you a jersey, they give you a locker, You
Speaker 2: earn that space, that square that's yours, that's yours. You
Speaker 2: put your belongings in there, your valuables in there, that's your.
Speaker 2: You earn that. I don't think it's our place to
Speaker 2: kind of replace this. This is what it is. This
Speaker 2: is the brand of basketball that these young kids love
Speaker 2: to play, and we gotta respect it. We gotta find
Speaker 2: the greatness and the jews out of all of it,
Speaker 2: versus comparing it, like you know, I hate when they
Speaker 2: compare Cod the Mic and Mike the Lebron. These are
Speaker 2: totally different dynamics and people. If anybody's played with Lebron,
Speaker 2: James the most unselfish superstar problem in sports, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, just being able to he was like
Speaker 2: the shock. Shaq could have been a lot more mean
Speaker 2: than he was. You know what I'm saying. We thank
Speaker 2: god Shack was raised right, right, y'all haven't played against
Speaker 2: the pissed off shock right? Oh shot getting pissed what like?
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you Mama and O'Neil, thank you, thank
Speaker 2: you for that. Seriously. But it's a different brand of basketball.
Speaker 2: So when I watched it, I'm like, what the what
Speaker 2: the okay the floater in now that's what they do? Now, okay,
Speaker 2: let me okay, Well he could have you know, and
Speaker 2: and I put something on it like that because I
Speaker 2: had to. I had to train, you know, I had
Speaker 2: to train kids. I had to be able to. I
Speaker 2: taught Giannis a couple of times, and and and Thorn
Speaker 2: and a couple of young guys. So I had to
Speaker 2: actually adapt and download. That's what everybody was doing and
Speaker 2: being able to, you know, take the same jewels and
Speaker 2: how you prepare, how you come in here in your mindset,
Speaker 2: and put that with this new style. So yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: as O g's, we're gonna have to make the download
Speaker 2: even though it ain't our preference and this ain't what
Speaker 2: we used to.
Speaker 4: That's all. So I bring a basketball. Absolutely, we gonna
Speaker 4: gotta adapt, you know what I mean. Game is at
Speaker 4: an all time high now. So someone say there's no
Speaker 4: defensors on this, on that, but the game is at
Speaker 4: all time high, all time global mark. People are making
Speaker 4: more money than you can ever. People are getting forty
Speaker 4: million dollars a year to throw a ball between you.
Speaker 2: Know and a hoop.
Speaker 4: So to me, older players, it's not this, it's not that.
Speaker 4: Like you said, we have to adapt. This is what
Speaker 4: it is for right now. It may stay this way,
Speaker 4: it may go back, it may not, but we have
Speaker 4: to adapt to what it is to.
Speaker 2: That game is entertainment right now. You want to see
Speaker 2: as much d as if it's gonna drive the offense,
Speaker 2: Like I would like to see mag get dead up
Speaker 2: till he started bothering and throwing that bitch out of
Speaker 2: bounds and like, all right, that's too much defense. I
Speaker 2: want to see him, you know what I'm saying, At
Speaker 2: least what I'm watching James cook. I'm kind of annoying
Speaker 2: that he cooking, but I want to see what he
Speaker 2: cook So I'm kind of like ah, but I'm like ah, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, I get caught into it too, but I
Speaker 2: have to respect it. This is the brand of basketball,
Speaker 2: so let me see the best of it.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, your early years, who did
Speaker 5: you pat in your game after? Oh Man coming in
Speaker 5: the game, coming in the game, Because like you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of people say it was no KG before KG,
Speaker 5: So who did you pat in.
Speaker 2: Your game after? You gotta know that guys like I
Speaker 2: seen you.
Speaker 5: In Rodney Fields in high school, so I know in
Speaker 5: my mind it wasn't no KG.
Speaker 2: It wasn't no Rodney Fields. But you had guys like Web,
Speaker 2: you know, like I look at Webb and Big Dog
Speaker 2: even though we're in the kind of same generation, but
Speaker 2: those were my older brothers. Were she Joe Smith that
Speaker 2: like those were my old you know. But when it
Speaker 2: came to big big brothers, you know, obviously call and
Speaker 2: and and Charles, they were older. David was as agile
Speaker 2: as you want to be at the position. But for me,
Speaker 2: magic was like the potential of what you can be
Speaker 2: if you had some handles. So then I was thinking, like, man,
Speaker 2: what if magic came from the hood, you know, like
Speaker 2: what if like magic had like a BMX kind of
Speaker 2: attitude with this ship, you know what I'm saying. What
Speaker 2: I like. One thing I loved about Web. Web used
Speaker 2: to dunk it on. You ain't no laying it up,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna put you in a basket. So they
Speaker 2: all the kicking each other. And you know we from Onyx,
Speaker 2: We from crack babies, we from we from gang banging,
Speaker 2: you know right, So when we was playing, that's how
Speaker 2: that's how Woof used to have us out here like
Speaker 2: yo swing on the rim, rallying you smell on when
Speaker 2: smells klowne own that I wanted to be able to
Speaker 2: be burst from a seven foot perspective and not have
Speaker 2: any limitations. I didn't want any when I came out
Speaker 2: here on the court. I wanted to have the advantage,
Speaker 2: and I wanted you asked the opposal to know I
Speaker 2: have the advantage, and then I want to watch how
Speaker 2: you adjusted that. Then I'm starting adjusting to you. Now
Speaker 2: I'm seeing how eager you are. Now I got you
Speaker 2: going off pump fakes. Now now I'm just going And
Speaker 2: I always picked that up early, And as I got
Speaker 2: into the league, I started getting knowledge from over the players.
Speaker 2: Kevin McHale started getting taught what I was actually seeing.
Speaker 2: And then I just took it to another level where creatively,
Speaker 2: because once you can teach something, that's when you know
Speaker 2: you have it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Okay, besides pot pattern in your game? Who did you
Speaker 5: watch growing up? Like who did you watch? Chris Webber
Speaker 5: and big Dogs watched?
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though she was like still like kind of
Speaker 2: like right there, I can where it was like the
Speaker 2: old I wanted to be like where where it was
Speaker 2: like this big ass like Charles Barkley when he was
Speaker 2: a chocolate niggle Web your webs dump where one laying
Speaker 2: nothing up. Web had these huge ass hands and he
Speaker 2: was dunking on you got a crazy story. And I
Speaker 2: first got in the league and I played against Webb
Speaker 2: Yo he caught it, and I look and he shot
Speaker 2: a jump hook and the look and he shot the
Speaker 2: jump and I looked at him and Sam Mitchell right
Speaker 2: after he right after, right after he the jump hook
Speaker 2: on my had to take it out whatever. He came
Speaker 2: up and he slapped the ship out me. Lord slapped
Speaker 2: what the ship? You can't do that out here. You
Speaker 2: can't be a fan out here. I know you love him.
Speaker 2: You gotta bust his ass though, And that was the
Speaker 2: last time that ever happened. Straight up, he slapped the
Speaker 2: dog ship out of me. In a game, my favorite
Speaker 2: player shot a jump hook on him and I was
Speaker 2: in all of it, and and I had lost it.
Speaker 2: I lost all all the fans. I had to actually
Speaker 2: put it to this cloud the fan out because I've
Speaker 2: seen Diesel and did the damn like you seen Shaq
Speaker 2: first time. That never seen Shaq first time, first time. Man,
Speaker 2: Shaq came out like God. I kept looking up. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: I'm seven foot y'all. I was like god, damn, like
Speaker 2: this shack was up and he talking real fastness that
Speaker 2: country Faither'm goodbody? Did you always give you that little
Speaker 2: quick answer is good good? But Diesels, He's just diesels, good,
Speaker 2: good people. Man, you know, but yeah, man, where was
Speaker 2: I wanted to be? Like? Where?
Speaker 5: I wanted to be a better version of where? Yeah silent?
Speaker 5: So me and me and man have the same passion.
Speaker 5: But I always tell people our passion for the game
Speaker 5: and what basketball means to me, you cannot teach. You know,
Speaker 5: I knew what basketball could do for my life, my
Speaker 5: family's life.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Your passion for the game, your emotion for the game.
Speaker 5: Who do you credit that to?
Speaker 2: Energy? My mom? My mom? My mom is a straight
Speaker 2: up ge straight up yeah. And she used to work
Speaker 2: graveyard if y'all know what graveyard is, graveyard six six
Speaker 2: to six you in the morning, right, She did that
Speaker 2: for a number of years. And then watching that, watching
Speaker 2: how she would come home and still have energy to
Speaker 2: get us ready for school, get us to school, and
Speaker 2: then we had to actually go to school, be something.
Speaker 2: So you know, we was under that. So whenever I
Speaker 2: came out, I understood responsibility very early. So when I
Speaker 2: would when I would prepare for something or you know,
Speaker 2: whether it was a school project or whatever, I would
Speaker 2: put everything into it. So when it came to practicing basketball,
Speaker 2: I used to get my ass busted. I used to
Speaker 2: I was in a rougher neighborhood. Then I moved to
Speaker 2: a nicer neighborhood, and then this nice neighborhood. They didn't
Speaker 2: play football, they didn't street fight, they didn't slap Boston.
Speaker 2: You know. They was more polished, polished individuals. You know,
Speaker 2: they wore college shirts and polos. And it was my
Speaker 2: first time actually like what they helped us, seeing like
Speaker 2: black excellence. It was like a better neighborhood, but it
Speaker 2: was where parents were doing better. Moving from the hood,
Speaker 2: that's when that whole transition started. Where you had the backyard.
Speaker 2: In front yard, you couldn't tell you shit after that, right,
Speaker 2: coming from the project, right, and you just thought you
Speaker 2: made it. But down here it was playing basketball. So
Speaker 2: to be better, I just I used to work on
Speaker 2: my ship. I used to watch Derek Coleman. I used
Speaker 2: to watch Kenny Anderson. I used to I used to
Speaker 2: have fans of people that I wanted to be like,
Speaker 2: and I worked on that shit. But then working and
Speaker 2: all this, I used to always put like my version
Speaker 2: of that into like how I would do it because
Speaker 2: I won't I didn't have big shoulders. I wann't this big,
Speaker 2: you know, mass of a person, so I just had
Speaker 2: to I used to always creatively make it work for me.
Speaker 2: But my mom was the first part of me learning
Speaker 2: what hard work and pushing through and being mentally strong.
Speaker 2: She was my first and probably my only decent example
Speaker 2: in which I obviously took from players and stuff, but
Speaker 2: when it came I never got the CMJ practice or prepare,
Speaker 2: but I prepared with laser focus and uh little laser concentration,
Speaker 2: so that when I got on the court, I knew
Speaker 2: exactly how it was gonna be and I was following
Speaker 2: that vision. And uh to touch on that, like it's it.
Speaker 5: It's crazy because before I even met you, seeing you
Speaker 5: play basketball, I knew that we would relating. And now
Speaker 5: you talk about the graveyard shipt not like we we
Speaker 5: basically the same person, because like I can, I can
Speaker 5: see how your mama made you strong, because y'all ya
Speaker 5: got y'all gotta i'm i'm'a, i'm'a reiterate that on that.
Speaker 5: Growing up, you come home from school four five, your
Speaker 5: mom at work right six in the morning, getting ready
Speaker 5: to school, she coming home.
Speaker 2: So you don't even see your mama some days.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying on top of that, and
Speaker 5: then now you're relying on your grandmother somebody else to
Speaker 5: be that parent dog so that that shit can take
Speaker 5: a toll on you absolute bit as a kid. Now
Speaker 5: you're trying to figure out how you gonna get the
Speaker 5: wisdom and stuff to make it because your mom it works,
Speaker 5: You're not getting.
Speaker 2: It from us.
Speaker 5: So so just seeing seeing your passion, Like before I
Speaker 5: met you, I knew that I was gonna relate to
Speaker 5: you and and even now have the utmost respect for you.
Speaker 5: But I knew he was gonna relate, and I knew
Speaker 5: kind of our same upbringing was gonna bring us.
Speaker 2: To the same place.
Speaker 4: It's energy too, I mean, I think obviously you know
Speaker 4: what your energy is. What I was always drawn to
Speaker 4: when you were one of the players that I was
Speaker 4: just like, man, I wish I could just play with
Speaker 4: this dude, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because when I talked to like, right, we'll get to
Speaker 4: that too, talking about Big Baby Davis and Nate Robinson
Speaker 4: and Perk there, like.
Speaker 3: Damn, you and KG would have got along like this, y'all.
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers just both out there going crazy, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 3: So I just loved your energy.
Speaker 4: You're starting in the pregame where your motherfucking running and
Speaker 4: breathing hard and slapping the back of the back sweat
Speaker 4: trying to I'm.
Speaker 2: Just like watching one of the great We gotta watch.
Speaker 5: Watch and we're watching greatness.
Speaker 3: We respect speaking on it.
Speaker 5: Speaking of that, let's talk about the Western Conference in
Speaker 5: the nineties early two thousands. I mean that all over
Speaker 5: Tim Duncan, Rashee Wallace, Carl Along Barkley, Dirt, Barkley, Dirk.
Speaker 5: See Web, I can keep going down to make dice
Speaker 5: every night.
Speaker 2: You had to be ready, you know, as crazy is
Speaker 2: the West? Was the West the wild every day? Listen.
Speaker 2: I know the guard played right now in sports is
Speaker 2: kind of like you know, the golf playing the right.
Speaker 2: But the pot four back then was like every night
Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't it really wasn't a night off.
Speaker 2: You know, you would have guys who I would even
Speaker 2: throw Danny Manny in this man like the little guys
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't necessarily Derrick McKee from UH from Indiana. Uh.
Speaker 2: Nobody really talks about big Dog, you know, Web, She dice.
Speaker 2: Dirk was young, but then he came into himself. Joe
Speaker 2: Smith nobody talks about Joe Smith like man it was,
Speaker 2: it was. It was Charles Barkley came alone, like it was.
Speaker 2: And then David Robinson would float because Dennis Robins played five,
Speaker 2: so he would float sometime to four and he had
Speaker 2: all agility to face you hit you with a you know.
Speaker 2: So every night it was, it was, it was just
Speaker 2: it was just a challenge at the position. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, while you're sitting up here, you know,
Speaker 2: appreciating everybody else's style, you really having to light on
Speaker 2: your own and actually come with like I told y'all,
Speaker 2: still sharp and still. And I used to always be
Speaker 2: prepared for whatever and whoever, and I didn't want to
Speaker 2: ever be the one that didn't have the energy or
Speaker 2: or didn't have to know how Like everybody that that
Speaker 2: that's ever played with me will tell you two things.
Speaker 2: I'm prepared to play and it's whatever, Like I'm one
Speaker 2: of them. That's one of them. I'm one of them
Speaker 2: teammates that's gonna ride even if you're wrong, I'm ring,
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about how wrong you are later, but
Speaker 2: right now I'm in it, going throw it, throw it
Speaker 2: like we out here, and you know, my mentality has
Speaker 2: always been like that. So that's why when you know,
Speaker 2: I when i'm when I befriend somebody or we become
Speaker 2: teammates and be really feeling like we family, because that's
Speaker 2: how we hold it's where it goes. Yeah, yeah, all that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: two thirty two thousands. Who's the toughest match every think? Yeah? Them,
Speaker 2: you bust everybody ass. You know, I want to know
Speaker 2: who got you? Who got you? Listen my first my first,
Speaker 2: God damn was big dog Man on the you know,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of Milwaukee, Big Dog Like. It's just like,
Speaker 2: you know, my rookie year. I'm coming in here. And
Speaker 2: plus I'm used to in high school playing bigs. I
Speaker 2: wasn't used to playing threes and chasing football guards off
Speaker 2: guards and didn't have a crazy handle. And I played a
Speaker 2: couple of guards, but not not like this, not like
Speaker 2: this big dog. Not like this big dog is a
Speaker 2: whole another level. And I was like, holy snap, yeah,
Speaker 2: like thirty eight in the in the in the preseason game.
Speaker 2: You know, pre seasons supposed to be taking it light.
Speaker 2: You're going through the motions, YadA YadA, big dog guy here,
Speaker 2: dripping he out here, making noise and growling and talking
Speaker 2: ship and I ain't gonna front. I was like, it was,
Speaker 2: it was, it was a lot. It was over my head.
Speaker 2: And I watched the film. And then I watched the film.
Speaker 2: I took took a nap and woke up really early.
Speaker 2: I washed it again, and the time I watched it,
Speaker 2: I got pissed more pissed, And then coaches were telling
Speaker 2: me how he was breaking me down. And then I
Speaker 2: started figuring it out. Okay, he coming off picts like this,
Speaker 2: look he took the angle. He crossed me up right here.
Speaker 2: My hand ain't even So I started picking up the intangibles.
Speaker 2: You don't even know that in the game yard that
Speaker 2: the small stuff the hand contests to swipe at the ball,
Speaker 2: you know, just the little slap at the knee, All
Speaker 2: that means something in basketball. If you don't do that
Speaker 2: and he goes up and makes a clear shot that
Speaker 2: he can make that you put your hand up. It
Speaker 2: changed the whole dynamic of that. So when I figured
Speaker 2: that out, I started like, okay, And I'm good at
Speaker 2: mathematics too, So I was always angles. When I would
Speaker 2: attack somebody, I wouldttack somebody's shoulder to shoulder because I
Speaker 2: knew they had the movie. Then I would spin back
Speaker 2: for a left or a comeback. And then when I
Speaker 2: was spinning back, I got that way of me telled
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dunk the small fucking So I was on
Speaker 2: that like man like. And then as I started getting better,
Speaker 2: I started seeing like the competition falling off, and that liked.
Speaker 2: I started eating it alive. I started getting off on
Speaker 2: that like I was. I would face guys and look
Speaker 2: and then look him in the face, like look at me.
Speaker 2: And I would have guys like you know, Tonio and
Speaker 2: Troyn Jamison. I used to love it. Him and Chris
Speaker 2: Bosh would never looked at me on the face, So
Speaker 2: look at me, look look at me on the face,
Speaker 2: knowing I got the whole clock in my head and
Speaker 2: I was swinging, and I always knew I had that,
Speaker 2: so I used to always play to that. But you know,
Speaker 2: this game is about being dominating, and if you're not
Speaker 2: the one stepping on somebody, then you're the one being
Speaker 2: stepped on. And I hate to put it like that,
Speaker 2: but that's that's what it was. And if you didn't
Speaker 2: come with your best, then you got embarrassed straight like that.
Speaker 2: I gotta I can't forget Antoine Walker. He and that
Speaker 2: Cybertwine was a motherfucker. Yeah, he was a moss. He was.
Speaker 2: He was the first that had the candy with the
Speaker 2: big fellow who had all the handles and the all
Speaker 2: trickiness and the floaters and the three ball and the
Speaker 2: knock knees. Cyber Twine was a motherfucker's headache. Yeah, straight up.
Speaker 2: Then Zach Randolph and all these other little guys start
Speaker 2: coming min into the game to start making it all
Speaker 2: just just pushing you, pushing. He was dope, man. I
Speaker 2: enjoyed my time in the league. I can't speak for
Speaker 2: everybody else, but my ship was magical, y'all. Dope moment.
Speaker 4: I remember a friend of mine, Yeah, I definitely give
Speaker 4: it up. A friend of mine and former UCL Jelani
Speaker 4: McCoy said he played against.
Speaker 2: You somewhere in high school.
Speaker 3: And he said, you.
Speaker 4: Got all the yelling and dunking and yelling and blocking
Speaker 4: and yelling from you.
Speaker 2: Where did you he played with? Listen played one game
Speaker 2: shout five. We Yeah, don't ask me no question about
Speaker 2: the story. A y'all just listen to the goddamn store.
Speaker 2: So when I'm I'm South Carolina's not a lot of
Speaker 2: tournaments and not a lot of national exposure, so I
Speaker 2: would go I got it. I got invited to Nike,
Speaker 2: which was in Indianapolis, where I met Ai. I met
Speaker 2: a lot of my future friends there in that camp,
Speaker 2: Runnie Fields, everybody that was there in that camp. So
Speaker 2: in that you got like you're not supposed to at
Speaker 2: that time, but you got like little Hay, you know,
Speaker 2: niggas hanging out and mother fucks over here, Hey on
Speaker 2: k Swiss, hell Mandida's over here. We were in New Jersey,
Speaker 2: so it was a bunch of that going on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I be friend of the cat that was from
Speaker 2: uh La and he was with uh K Swiss. I
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all sneakerheads. I'm a huge sneakerhead, but
Speaker 2: case one of my favorite right with actually like the
Speaker 2: KSE Swish and the Navy boot slope, right you already know, right,
Speaker 2: So he was like, yo, hey, I can't really give
Speaker 2: you all the shit Nike gain, but I can fly
Speaker 2: you out whatever you ever heard of, Paul Pierce, like
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce, Like, nah, I don't want that, Like nah
Speaker 2: Catt on the West Coast making line and there you
Speaker 2: ever heard of tell y'all Henderson, Like, man, you ever
Speaker 2: heard a Ricky start naming all these West Coast cats?
Speaker 2: Ricky Price and these are all hitters, y'all all everybody,
Speaker 2: I'm naming to somebody Toby Bailey like all these cats. Right.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Miam, really, you know, I'm over here.
Speaker 2: So he was like, but come on here and see
Speaker 2: what we're talking about. I thought he was full of shit.
Speaker 2: And I see, I know, I get this joint. I
Speaker 2: get my first time I've been on the plane to
Speaker 2: me and my mom, we get you know, I take 'em.
Speaker 2: I'm fifteen, fourteen, fifteen, man, my mom go to Vegas
Speaker 2: on this little whatever, no bread, no nothing, this shit.
Speaker 2: So all take care. But it's a U. So I
Speaker 2: meet Paul Pierce before we go to Vegas. We gotta
Speaker 2: go to LA. We go to Inglewood. So first you know,
Speaker 2: I'm in Inglewood, Like, what is no Inglewood High? I
Speaker 2: met Demani in their shout to DEMONI term five whole
Speaker 2: little you know, the whole West, the whole joint, the
Speaker 2: whole La right now right so p here, I see
Speaker 2: a little fat kid like a little kurroo. You got
Speaker 2: the man Barnes is you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I'm like, who is this little fast?
Speaker 2: So I'm watching them play ones? But then p went
Speaker 2: up and crossed it then dunk that mom. I'm like,
Speaker 2: damn the fat motherfucking jump. So we get to mess around,
Speaker 2: we get to plan, we run over. We were like
Speaker 2: a little practice and it all clicked. We all joking,
Speaker 2: talking share y'all, y'all. We go to Vegas and the
Speaker 2: first thing he say to me is, look all these
Speaker 2: l a niggas gonna be on one team. This nigga
Speaker 2: shake Hotton before Lebron, he was. He was the Ronnie
Speaker 2: Fields of the West Coast, like this ninth eighth grade
Speaker 2: of West Super All Sports Illustrated cover. He was. He was.
Speaker 2: He was before his time, so Shae Ki. And he
Speaker 2: was left handed, and he was nasty, unbelievable, and he
Speaker 2: was a nigga, y'all. He wanted to dunking him talking ship.
Speaker 2: He was witch smoked, he was with whatever, like seriously
Speaker 2: like he was probably a little meaning than Lebron. He
Speaker 2: was respected though, like at an early age, so I
Speaker 2: was I didn't even know none of this. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: he don't whatever, I don't you know, I don't care.
Speaker 2: Let's hope. So he heep pouring everybody out look that
Speaker 2: Jay Hens, Jamal McCourty bright here just this wikie price
Speaker 2: for just to me. So I'm sitting up there like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're really looking like Lennox and d MX and the
Speaker 2: jointing bell she was looking at. Yeah, I see him
Speaker 2: with the feathers in his head. Yeah, I see him food. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he don't look that big. So I'm we over there
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah. So I'm over here getting like a
Speaker 2: check of everybody. So I'm watched Jilani outlet everybody ship
Speaker 2: cour Yard was one of the best high school shop
Speaker 2: blockers I've ever seen, no question. I'm just like just
Speaker 2: how he anticipated and how he and he talking shit, no,
Speaker 2: he throwing it and I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's what he am. Yeah we are so we all
Speaker 2: get to where we go in the championship game, I'm
Speaker 2: already knowing I gotta deal. I gotta turn it all
Speaker 2: the way up. So I'm all the way turning. I'm
Speaker 2: on a thousand So when I'm throwing niggas shot him,
Speaker 2: no peace mine, no blocking your ship, putting it in
Speaker 2: the rim, taking it out, hitting the hitting the backboard twice,
Speaker 2: you know, all the little shit. So I'm no mine, no,
Speaker 2: So I'm doing I'm just go tanning. I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: Just you know, we beat them niggas, Pete bone Shade.
Speaker 2: They go back, you know, but we beat them. We
Speaker 2: wining whatever. I go back to South Carolina. I don't
Speaker 2: even know, but Pete Stock go to the roof, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So next thing I know, I
Speaker 2: see pe he damn there thirty pounds, slim ship doing
Speaker 2: all type of other ship. Oh yeah, you know, like
Speaker 2: we're growing out of our little bodies. Yea. And yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my first kind of read interaction with Jolanni. We
Speaker 2: were we were all see like see as I'm seeing
Speaker 2: him saying this. So many guys get caught like in
Speaker 2: the wave of just because Jolannie McCoy was a real one,
Speaker 2: Like you know, you had to have you had to
Speaker 2: move him, You had to have a whole package of
Speaker 2: moves for guys like that. Should have had a long career,
Speaker 2: should have had ten fifteen year career. Listen easy him
Speaker 2: and Rodney Fields dog. It was the two biggest uh listen,
Speaker 2: Shae Cott and Ronney Fields and Lenny Cook. The league
Speaker 2: missed out on all three of those, yess and being
Speaker 2: basketball legends in their own right, shout real short class,
Speaker 2: real ship.
Speaker 4: So you caught MJ's last three peat ninety six, ninety seven, ninety.
Speaker 2: Eight, I did? We all did? Y'all caught all caught it?
Speaker 3: Tell me what that was like.
Speaker 2: Mike was heat man. You see how like in the
Speaker 2: back of Matt was sitting in front of me and
Speaker 2: I went like this to him. I said, did you
Speaker 2: feel that? I said, yeah, I said, That's how Mike was, y'all,
Speaker 2: Like an he just when he was on the core,
Speaker 2: he was just he was gonna have to look at it, listen.
Speaker 2: And he was a dog. You understand by thing. Mike
Speaker 2: used big words and charisma and the smile, and it's
Speaker 2: a whole nother side to that, y'all. Who I mean
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, man, And any and anything that would
Speaker 2: either shake or rattle or wasn't or came off as disrespectful,
Speaker 2: he reacted to it. And there was motivation. And I
Speaker 2: actually took a little piece of that out from when
Speaker 2: you play, because when you play, Doll. Y'all don't understand
Speaker 2: that you got to be in a certain Me and
Speaker 2: Jack could be best friends. I can be cool with Matt,
Speaker 2: but out here I gotta put Matt on his ass
Speaker 2: for this layup. If not, when I get back to
Speaker 2: the locker room and the door shut, it might turn
Speaker 2: into something else from men.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, the way he greeted us walking
Speaker 5: up here is a totally different way he get.
Speaker 2: Us for a game. Man, Dad, He don't. He don't
Speaker 2: give us that much love for a game. It's a
Speaker 2: real shady ash for the game. I'm drawing the line
Speaker 2: in the sand, and you know where I'm at. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, what's up? It ain't
Speaker 2: the same as when what's up? Doll? I got to
Speaker 2: kill you out here? It's war time. Ain't not personal
Speaker 2: but killer kidding. Yeah, And it was harder with friends
Speaker 2: like Chauncey t Lou. I'm glad all my friends were guards.
Speaker 2: You know, I ain't have to guard. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But when I befriended she, it was hard
Speaker 2: playing she sometimes g Trent was one of my good friends.
Speaker 2: It was hard playing those guys. But I know they
Speaker 2: are here trying to they are my throat, so you
Speaker 2: know it was you know, it was easy to hear
Speaker 2: what target? Absolutely, what's your best MJ story? Oh man,
Speaker 2: my best MJ. Well, one of my MJ stories was
Speaker 2: what my favorite one? My favorite MJ story is. Since
Speaker 2: this is out there were in Chicago. You know it's
Speaker 2: my rookie year, second half of the year. You know
Speaker 2: how you you know how, you're not caught on now
Speaker 2: right now? You got your little one two moves, you
Speaker 2: getting them off right now? You got some confidence, right
Speaker 2: So I'm in that. So I'm in the wave. I'm
Speaker 2: playing decent, I'm starting whatever however we get Chicago. Ronnie
Speaker 2: was just in the bad crash. I haven't had no sleep,
Speaker 2: so I'm on the I'm on the getting back to
Speaker 2: the go. I got about seventy people at the game.
Speaker 2: The hood in here. We all live here, right, so
Speaker 2: I'm just on one. But i haven't had no sleep.
Speaker 2: I'm just doing like a you know, I come in here, man,
Speaker 2: And it was hard seeing my partner in the bed
Speaker 2: like that. You had a big ass halo around his neck,
Speaker 2: but he was such in good spirits. Man feels shot
Speaker 2: to Ronnie feels to listen, bro, he was dunking and
Speaker 2: my other doing the same thus with the halo on
Speaker 2: his head, which is crazy. Anyway, I'm playing right, but
Speaker 2: Jr Is having a good game, you know, Jyard might
Speaker 2: j right shot to jay R. So I'm like, so
Speaker 2: as we come at the time out just just I'm
Speaker 2: on y'all, y'all. I can't even explain it. I was
Speaker 2: just like, yo, keep keep killing that nigga, y'all killing
Speaker 2: that boning them? Yo, straight up, you have a good game, Joe,
Speaker 2: keep going. But it was on some light, just fly bylight.
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, you too. So as I'm walking
Speaker 2: off nigga right here, Uh Mike can hear me, but
Speaker 2: I ain't really I don't really give a fuck. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, so I double ballot, Yeah, man, keep killing
Speaker 2: that nigga, Yo, keep killing them on fuck. So as
Speaker 2: I say that, I feel it, hands on hips last lock.
Speaker 2: Then look the nigga stab me for about fifteen seconds.
Speaker 2: You feel let so I start to feel It's two
Speaker 2: ways you can go in this. I can walk this
Speaker 2: off out like I don't even feel it, and play
Speaker 2: it off and and dumb me out. FU fuck that ma,
Speaker 2: I'm in here, I got singing in him, cloning him on,
Speaker 2: hung on the arm, moan, I'm moan, keep killing this nigga. Okay,
Speaker 2: keep it up. So I hear jay, y'all go y'a, alright, y'all,
Speaker 2: fella keep going here, you too. So he trying to
Speaker 2: get me off a note. I don't even you know,
Speaker 2: now that I recall it. He was trying to kind
Speaker 2: of just get off. So we go, so I double back,
Speaker 2: go and get ready to say something. So he goes, hey, look, Mike,
Speaker 2: he don't really know how we I see him. It
Speaker 2: might having a conversation. So he's like, he don't really know,
Speaker 2: he excited whatever. So now MJ on the back leg joint,
Speaker 2: you know that right, Okay? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. Huh. I can't even even really describe the
Speaker 2: next like sixty seven minutes to play, y'all, and this
Speaker 2: next sixty seven minutes to play, y'all, we get two,
Speaker 2: not one, two ten second calls. You know, you bring
Speaker 2: the ball up. Ten second costs were down twenty five.
Speaker 2: Now it was just that two. Mike had eighteen year
Speaker 2: like forty now, ja y'all myself, we ain't scored in
Speaker 2: like about four minutes, and I subbed like three of
Speaker 2: the starters, like it's just finally flip it got bad win, y'all.
Speaker 2: I come to the joint and then they know this
Speaker 2: when you come and you've been on the run, you
Speaker 2: not got back on the floor, got back how to
Speaker 2: be back? And you feel like you on defense all
Speaker 2: the time. You come to the bitch like this. So
Speaker 2: I was like, Jay, remember my ba my bad. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Like it's cool, man, I told you shut
Speaker 2: your eyes shut man here, so you got in between
Speaker 2: her gager. Ain't theren where you like? Damn? And that'st thing.
Speaker 2: You know. We are there like this, Mike came down. Okay, y'all, fella, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: damn y'all, fella, damn, damn y'all, y'all, Dad, damn y'all.
Speaker 2: I never talked ship to Mike ever given life seen
Speaker 2: him at all. Start apologizing, man, you know I never
Speaker 2: did it. Nobody else but I had that little respect man.
Speaker 3: That's that's Mike.
Speaker 2: And then I apologize to Jay. Y'all, Man, how did
Speaker 2: me to get your man? What said? What was Gerard responding? Man?
Speaker 2: I told you chill out man, all right, But ja,
Speaker 2: y'all was like a cool big brother. Shout to him.
Speaker 2: Man Him and Sam Mitchell they were. They were great
Speaker 2: vests for me. Man Him and Terry Porter they were.
Speaker 2: They was real vests. These were real gee's that they
Speaker 2: had messed up. So when I came in, they was
Speaker 2: really cracking the whip on me on just walking the
Speaker 2: fine line. That's important, and they didn't really understand that ship.
Speaker 2: I won't gonna mess this up for nobody. Don't need
Speaker 2: y'all to be on me like this, But yeah, I
Speaker 2: ain't fro the fuck thisself for me what y'all talking about?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was locked in from day one with them.
Speaker 3: God, that's what's up.
Speaker 4: Trash talking is an art, I think probably to me,
Speaker 4: I may have missed some guys, but you and GP
Speaker 4: were the best at it.
Speaker 3: Where'd that come from?
Speaker 2: I'm in the top ten, I'm gonna be top five.
Speaker 2: I always say that the trash talking, you gotta be
Speaker 2: able to back it up, right. So the first thing
Speaker 2: about trash talking is, uh, I would I would actually
Speaker 2: consider who was talking to trash and then if they
Speaker 2: had the ability to back it up to whether I
Speaker 2: was gonna actually engaged with somebody. But then you got there,
Speaker 2: and y'all know this. You got the trash bag nigga
Speaker 2: out here talking up nig then the way you shut
Speaker 2: niggas up and you just ask something, I'm just going.
Speaker 2: It seemed like if the trash talking get to a
Speaker 2: point where I got you not talking no more, that's
Speaker 2: the worst thing you can ever do. And trash talking
Speaker 2: you have to continue. Told you waste to go in
Speaker 2: trash talk matter what. And if you decide to continue
Speaker 2: to trash talk and keep going, you gotta keep it up.
Speaker 2: So the minute I not add you out and now
Speaker 2: now you not no, you exhausted, You ain't got no more. Man,
Speaker 2: get this self. This niggas's right, it's over. I gotta
Speaker 2: step on you. And that's how it usually was. But
Speaker 2: once I start seeing the trash talk affect people, it
Speaker 2: was it was different for me from how I used it.
Speaker 3: Was there someone that you loved, you knew that motherfucker
Speaker 3: back it up talking to.
Speaker 2: You, believe it or not, y'all. Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan,
Speaker 2: shot to Timmy Tim Duncan. People would not see him
Speaker 2: verbally seeing stuff because he wouldn't talk consentences, freeze tim
Speaker 2: Timmy will hit you in phrases, got you groomed almost
Speaker 2: just the worst right here, nice try like subtle shit,
Speaker 2: no gage to ship, no real hard course shit, just
Speaker 2: to subtlely to just back your ass up and put
Speaker 2: you back in like this over here, like you know.
Speaker 2: And then what really, what really, what really really really
Speaker 2: pissed me off was when the trash tark wasn't affecting him.
Speaker 2: So now you spending all this energy trying to rid
Speaker 2: us up. You know, I forgot about your own game.
Speaker 2: You forgot about they coming to you that you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do. And then that's when I actually went quit
Speaker 2: talking trash to timm because he wouldn't respond or he
Speaker 2: wasn't giving me the reaction. That was, I can't get
Speaker 2: really get hype off this thing ain't even giving me,
Speaker 2: not even looking now, you know, starting you know, doing
Speaker 2: a little you know, the shoulder ship, and he won't
Speaker 2: react to that. And see, you know, Timmy got twenty
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen like up here, So then I started changing that,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm so then it was now sometimes
Speaker 2: you just you went to it. You know, two dogs
Speaker 2: meet in the middle of and to be what it is.
Speaker 2: So you know, I didn't understand that.
Speaker 5: Sometimes with Tim, he used to come out of the
Speaker 5: game me Pop just screaming and him cursing him out.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down there and you letting this motherfucker talk
Speaker 2: to you like this, You Tim Duncan, and he's saying nothing.
Speaker 5: So when Pop come to me, I gotta be like,
Speaker 5: what the fucking I say, Tim Duncan taking it? I
Speaker 5: gotta take you gotta take it. But it made me
Speaker 5: a better player, It made me coachable, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. But at first soon as Pop point, man,
Speaker 5: you better get the fuck out of my face, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I see you going off on Tim, I gotta
Speaker 2: be able to take it. I watched Gary Payton control
Speaker 2: Karen Payden and Charge Barclay was two of the arguably
Speaker 2: best trash talkers I ever experienced. I saw Gary Payton
Speaker 2: control the referees, his coach, my coach, the crowd, the
Speaker 2: lady in the front, the guy who was on the
Speaker 2: side of the Minnesota games hitting the bucket. He was
Speaker 2: controlling the whole game.
Speaker 3: That's magical.
Speaker 2: I watched GP back down the guard from baseline, the baseline,
Speaker 2: talking the whole time.
Speaker 6: Shut your ass up, bow up, twist hey, get his
Speaker 6: ass he here, Hey, come up.
Speaker 2: Hey. You see the hand on the hill calling if
Speaker 2: you see he just like finally him. I'm like managing
Speaker 2: all this. He talking to me, he calling the play,
Speaker 2: He throwing the boat like yo, and still scoring the balls,
Speaker 2: stealing the ball, affected in the in the huddle. He
Speaker 2: in the huddle, he got the thing, he drawing it up.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo. GP to me was like masterful. Charles
Speaker 2: Barkley was another level of trash talking because he would
Speaker 2: end up fighting you for trying to fight you. But
Speaker 2: he instilled fearing everybody on the court. Gary Payton actually
Speaker 2: used it to get fouls, to get his teammates files,
Speaker 2: to uh, get guys in and out like he was
Speaker 2: just he was just a control free you know. And
Speaker 2: if you went to a part of Gary, he was
Speaker 2: doing the same thing.
Speaker 6: What a drink set, y'all ain't drinking shots over the hill?
Speaker 6: Get them out of feet, man with them.
Speaker 2: This is GP. This is just GP. Year. Yeah I
Speaker 2: saw it, you know, so I guess that would kind
Speaker 2: of be my example of if the yeah GP was
Speaker 2: kind of my example of what I wanted to but
Speaker 2: I give Gary shout the GP map. We was in
Speaker 2: everybody's talking about the twenty anniversary events, winning the Dunk
Speaker 2: Contest in Oakland, right, But y'all don't know is that
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant rest in peace to my dog. He took
Speaker 2: another level of being a defensive standpoint because Gary Payton,
Speaker 2: after practice after practice, all star practice, poured us to
Speaker 2: the side because Cold dashed him something. They pulled both
Speaker 2: of us to the side and said, let me tell
Speaker 2: y'all something. Look when you're playing defense, and then he
Speaker 2: went through a thirty minute joint with both of us
Speaker 2: on defense and keeping us between the leg and reaching
Speaker 2: and how to reach and when you reach up and
Speaker 2: just low tricks of the trade. That next time I
Speaker 2: saw Cold after the break he was using. It became
Speaker 2: first team that year. First time I seen him say
Speaker 2: he used that shit GPH, I thought that shit, but
Speaker 2: I knew that only the three of us was part
Speaker 2: of that, So I was like you saw, I thought
Speaker 2: it was gonna CALLI fight and caught as shit. Wow,
Speaker 2: Because GP taught us when you rip somebody to go
Speaker 2: through that chest us as usually your hand you see
Speaker 2: this right. He told us to take a step and
Speaker 2: come through your chest and come and then round out.
Speaker 2: There's no way you can protect the ball. You can't
Speaker 2: cross it back once you get in there, once I'm
Speaker 2: in your cab, you can't cross it up. You would
Speaker 2: even have to turn your back. Oh, man, I saw
Speaker 2: Coke take that first night after the break. I saw it.
Speaker 2: You know, we want no text or none of that
Speaker 2: back then. But when I first saw my shot there,
Speaker 2: it stayed it right here. When I saw him, he
Speaker 2: knew exactly what I was talking about. Student the GP
Speaker 2: for that you no doubt.
Speaker 4: So you experienced I mean, obviously Minnesota it was your
Speaker 4: first landing spot, and you experienced a lot of after
Speaker 4: you got going, a lot of personal success. But as
Speaker 4: a team, you guys weren't so as competitivis or as
Speaker 4: much as you wanted to win.
Speaker 3: How did that affect you?
Speaker 4: Because you're doing well, you're making all star teams, eventually
Speaker 4: winning the MVP, but your team is.
Speaker 3: Not moving the way you wanted to move.
Speaker 2: You know what, man, I I was? I was? I was.
Speaker 2: I was drowning in my own success, if you will,
Speaker 2: like once I started seeing like the owner that wasn't
Speaker 2: on the same pages as growing and making the team
Speaker 2: better like other teams. And then I got friends that
Speaker 2: were on other teams, and you know, teams were getting
Speaker 2: better and they going out trying to make doing all this,
Speaker 2: and I would always feel like I was in the
Speaker 2: same spot as last and that was frustrating. And then too,
Speaker 2: I wasn't the most outspoken. I wasn't gonna I didn't
Speaker 2: see where coming out here talking about the owner of
Speaker 2: the team was going to actually give me some like
Speaker 2: it didn't work like that, And at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, you have to carry that out. When you
Speaker 2: do shit like that, and stuff like that in this
Speaker 2: league comes back on you because the owners talk and
Speaker 2: there's a buddy buddy system. And if you didn't, you know,
Speaker 2: watch Catherin's whole situation. That'll tell you that it's a
Speaker 2: it's a it's a good boys club, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's definitely a billionaire's boys club. So
Speaker 2: I understood that right off. So I want to affect
Speaker 2: what I could do, and I would just focus on
Speaker 2: things that I can control, and when I had a
Speaker 2: chance to change that, I did. But you know, it
Speaker 2: was very frustrating putting everything into something and knowing that
Speaker 2: you need the other half to be able to complete
Speaker 2: these certain steps. So when I had a first off,
Speaker 2: you go into the playoffs, then you get put out
Speaker 2: the playoffs eight straight times, it's like like here we
Speaker 2: go again, and it's almost like thinking like, okay, that
Speaker 2: next time. It's that next time. Then I actually get there,
Speaker 2: we get past it, we get there, and then now
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like, Okay, got tasted, and now now I
Speaker 2: know what it takes. But you need these parts. And
Speaker 2: if throw nobody equip you to have these these parts, man, man,
Speaker 2: you can only control. So the Boston thing for me
Speaker 2: was it wasn't about anything else. I wanted to win
Speaker 2: in Minnesota and I want to be the first to
Speaker 2: I want to be the first to bring a championship
Speaker 2: to the city, but I need the other parts to it.
Speaker 2: And if Glenn wasn't gonna step up and do those things,
Speaker 2: then I have to actually make a career move. And
Speaker 2: I should have left a little earlier than I did,
Speaker 2: just because body wise and what I wanted to bring
Speaker 2: to it. Cause when you play at a certain level,
Speaker 2: your body is the one that takes the beating on it,
Speaker 2: and when I got the Boston all, I I felt
Speaker 2: like I was a uh well prepared, uh professional athlete
Speaker 2: that can articulate itself to the owner on what I
Speaker 2: expect out of this. So w me and we had
Speaker 2: girl spect got on the same lines for where me
Speaker 2: and Glenn Taylor disconnected. I got on the same page
Speaker 2: with him very early, and it wasn't cool, and there
Speaker 2: was some smoke involved, and we figured it out. But
Speaker 2: I wanted him to understand what I was as a man,
Speaker 2: and I ain't none of these peons that you used
Speaker 2: to in here. You gonna talk to me with some
Speaker 2: fucking respect, And I'm a man first, homie, and I
Speaker 2: stood on that. Give a fuck. I make bread too,
Speaker 2: I got a plane too. I do that too. So
Speaker 2: what you saying, right, they coming from the name on
Speaker 2: the back, not the name on the f not the
Speaker 2: name on the front. And that's how I shot at me.
Speaker 2: You know, we we got an understanding because of I
Speaker 2: guess his relations with Antwine and and Paul and him
Speaker 2: being comfortable. I didn't wanna make him comfortable. I ain't
Speaker 2: want him comfort with me, because when you're comfortable, you
Speaker 2: say anything. When you drunk or you feeling good. Nah,
Speaker 2: I want you to always be on be on line
Speaker 2: with me always, Hey, what's up? How you doing? Keep
Speaker 2: it moving. So when I came in, I came in
Speaker 2: that demeanor and it made the relationship a lot better
Speaker 2: because it was all about respect versus the intangibles and
Speaker 2: all the bullshit that comes sometimes getting in betweens that
Speaker 2: make things rough.
Speaker 3: Sometimes Summer of seven you end up going to Boston.
Speaker 3: But that was our we believe here.
Speaker 4: That's when we put a bunch of misfits together and
Speaker 4: did some crazy shit. The last half of the season
Speaker 4: made NBA history, beat the first first eight CV the
Speaker 4: number one. See Dirk was MVP that year. We busted
Speaker 4: the whole team's ass, beat him down to.
Speaker 2: The white meat. How did Dirk win MVP that year?
Speaker 2: You know, you know, like y'all don't notice, but the
Speaker 2: MVP up until Dirk, you had to get out of
Speaker 2: the first round to be able to be considered the MVP,
Speaker 2: or they would go ahead and give it to somebody else.
Speaker 2: This is when the Mark Cuban effect comes into play,
Speaker 2: right when your owner goes to your back about it
Speaker 2: and goes for your back and actually does his campaign
Speaker 2: on his behalf to his board of partners, and that
Speaker 2: had to go into play at some point because when
Speaker 2: you when y'all did that, that totally ripped the hole
Speaker 2: in the whole plan of whatever it was supposed to be.
Speaker 2: That was not supposed to happen. So now you got
Speaker 2: the whole thing on the backs of these misfits who
Speaker 2: coming in here doing something that they weren't supposed to
Speaker 2: what whoa, whoa what y'all not fuck the matrix up? Man?
Speaker 2: What are y'all doing? And then look who wonder what
Speaker 2: hot what? And messed it up? Y'all wasn't supposed to
Speaker 2: do that. And now the same the first thing I said,
Speaker 2: this man, how is this man winning the MVP? I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be quiet. When he was, he was washing him,
Speaker 2: bro I watched it. I was head on swivel when
Speaker 2: I was, And before you know it, you had the
Speaker 2: whole NBA just riding with y'all. So that that shit
Speaker 2: was gorgeo.
Speaker 4: Because Nelly helped build that team, and Nelly was the
Speaker 4: first one to put me and Jack on dirt, so
Speaker 4: we put smaller, stronger people in there.
Speaker 3: Every time he turned, he was.
Speaker 2: On his ass. He knew it and just bullied the
Speaker 2: early Dirk did not want to know he was. He
Speaker 2: was very fragile. He listen. I say two things about
Speaker 2: Dirk pargasol and y'all mean, they adjusted so fast. I
Speaker 2: saw Jan Browley punk y'all mean in preseason, and I
Speaker 2: don't know what Steve Francis said that, y'all mean. But
Speaker 2: the next night I saw him. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: He was dunking them one boy and dropped stepping in
Speaker 2: And that was the y'all mean I had known to.
Speaker 2: Dirk did the same thing. First time I played Dirk.
Speaker 2: I got a sense of fear from him. So I
Speaker 2: played it that I was dunking out raw And you know,
Speaker 2: Dallas got these mics in the rioms. So when you
Speaker 2: sound like you going in there, oh man, great atmosphere
Speaker 2: to player, right, that's great atmosphere. Shot the Mark Cuban too, man,
Speaker 2: because he changed a lot of coach in the NBA, y'all.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know, man. He started feeding
Speaker 2: players way before any of this. He started feeding both
Speaker 2: sides of like competition and his own players. Like when
Speaker 2: you after the after the game, yard, do you know
Speaker 2: I had to either have the ball boys run across
Speaker 2: the street and grab some taco bell or some fucking
Speaker 2: McDonald's or something upstairs in the concord to be able
Speaker 2: to have food. Or then I'm eighteen nineteen. I can't
Speaker 2: get in no strip clar I can't get in nothing
Speaker 2: after the Oh no, young fella, you can't come in here.
Speaker 2: And uh we ain't in serving dreams too, Yeah you gotta.
Speaker 2: It was always like I had to go through the
Speaker 2: back door some dog like being young in the league
Speaker 2: or no. It was a whole nother. But Mark Cuban
Speaker 2: started providing real meals. I'm talking about like barbecue, like
Speaker 2: cramwall like you got god damn greens College's two different menues,
Speaker 2: chicken fry this day, fight.
Speaker 3: That mother barba.
Speaker 2: You know what I did, dog, I used to make
Speaker 2: my food and walk all the way around and thank
Speaker 2: him because just to shit out there, I say, mister
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban, thank you for the food.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Now the food is like a customary thing.
Speaker 2: Now you gotta have it in the league. But he
Speaker 2: started that.
Speaker 5: Mark Cuban started all that. You were also one of
Speaker 5: the leaders too. If you look at his organization, the
Speaker 5: people be hired. He got a lot of players that
Speaker 5: played for him working for him.
Speaker 2: Now, right, and that Mark Cuban.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all these teams, a lot of teams that got
Speaker 5: ex players that want jobs, that want to work with
Speaker 5: the teams they played for. Look at Mark Cuban co
Speaker 5: from coaching rotters to work it to Mike Finler working
Speaker 5: in the office.
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of his players. You got to
Speaker 2: get them credit for that. Listen, man, I'm banking that
Speaker 2: at some point Dirk's gonna buy into the team and
Speaker 2: he's going to probably well, no question, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: only right. I was rested piece of my dog. I
Speaker 2: was waiting on cold to do the same thing. Though,
Speaker 2: real talk, you know, I tell p all the time
Speaker 2: you was with Boston, you should be able to have
Speaker 2: the ability. I think that if you put enough blud
Speaker 2: sweating TIS and these older organizations, you should have at
Speaker 2: least the option to be able to buy into or
Speaker 2: be able to have a piece of the hell you
Speaker 2: have building. And then that's not given. You earned that
Speaker 2: earned that. I got the Minnesota man. That ship was
Speaker 2: like worth eighty nine million a summer. He paid a
Speaker 2: couple of joints. Man, we got in ten years in
Speaker 2: that that ship was almost at a billion.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: You know, like you don't get none of that. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't get none of that, that appreciation for that,
Speaker 2: but you know that culture and then what people know
Speaker 2: and why they're coming to the games. You built all
Speaker 2: that and sweat blood and equity, and you don't get
Speaker 2: a choice of being that. That has to change at
Speaker 2: some point. I love it.
Speaker 4: So, like I said, we did that, and we did
Speaker 4: that No. Seven and then we heard rumors. I don't
Speaker 4: know if if you even even heard the ship, but
Speaker 4: we it was word that we were going after you
Speaker 4: for a whole package and you were supposed to come
Speaker 4: complete us as our centerpiece to our crazy Yeah.
Speaker 2: I heard about y'all. Man, this so we've been We've
Speaker 2: been talking about this for years.
Speaker 3: We spoke on this all the time.
Speaker 2: Heard it like when we heard on the team.
Speaker 5: Was Chipping sending anybody then KG sitting the whole team
Speaker 5: to coach anybody we need KG.
Speaker 2: Listen, I never know you knew about it. I looked
Speaker 2: at it like this. I was like, man, I got
Speaker 2: one chance at this, right I had I had Uh,
Speaker 2: I had Oakland, I had Phoenix, I had the Lakers
Speaker 2: and I had the Celtics, and uh, I'm just being
Speaker 2: honest with everybody. I wanted to link with Cold because
Speaker 2: Covid and I had like a listen to me, Covid
Speaker 2: and I had like a different, a different connect. Like
Speaker 2: when Covid Shaq went went went on their little thing,
Speaker 2: A lot of people went with Shack. A lot of
Speaker 2: people didn't even fuck with Cold, you know, Cold whatever.
Speaker 2: I wanted to want the very few that just stayed
Speaker 2: with him, and just see I was a neutral guy anyway.
Speaker 2: I show everybody love you Cold love dog, but Cold
Speaker 2: respect dogs like like like real like real cat start.
Speaker 2: If you ever noticed, he never really got into it
Speaker 2: with somebody that he really respected, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I watched when you and him went out and
Speaker 2: you threw the ball, he flinched. It was a form
Speaker 2: of respect there that he was. They was talking. Nobody noticed,
Speaker 2: but they was talking Simon thaneous like Nike, I wish
Speaker 2: you would hit me with this ball. You got more
Speaker 2: respect than me than that. So him and Matt was
Speaker 2: I already knew that. But players know this, and then
Speaker 2: you already know who I'm if we get into it
Speaker 2: and we get to tech, it's verbal and we bumping.
Speaker 2: We bumping. I'm already knowing what he's saying to me
Speaker 2: without even talking. So that's how we used to ship
Speaker 2: real shit, like not even thinking. That's how players actually
Speaker 2: was talking to dealing with each other. So whenever I
Speaker 2: would watch him get into it with somebody and he
Speaker 2: actually would get into it, it was either because he
Speaker 2: didn't respect them and it went like that, or he
Speaker 2: respect him and then went a whole other way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't know. That's how. Like when we got
Speaker 3: into it in twenty ten, the.
Speaker 4: Ball faked shit like he was the first person to
Speaker 4: call me free agency, like, Yo, you want to come
Speaker 4: be your laker?
Speaker 3: Anyone crazy enough to fuck with me?
Speaker 2: It's crazy?
Speaker 3: And he went and got Ron the year before when
Speaker 3: Ron was in Houston.
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm tired of wrestling with you crazy motherfuckers,
Speaker 4: come fuck with me.
Speaker 2: Well, I tried to link with him and I couldn't
Speaker 2: get him on the line, and people was like, yo, man, shit,
Speaker 2: manlet's donna do shit. You know a picture? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And Chauncey and Tlou we
Speaker 2: used to all work out together in LA, and we
Speaker 2: was all together in Minnesota. When they say that you
Speaker 2: can go talk to people, that's when they're done with you.
Speaker 2: You permission to go talk to other teams. And when
Speaker 2: they give you permission to entertain mother other options, they
Speaker 2: over you. They moved on. So y'all don't know, yo,
Speaker 2: I get up at like four thirty. You know why
Speaker 2: I get up at four thirty Cause I live in LA.
Speaker 2: And it's a cat in New York getting up at seven.
Speaker 2: He up already working already. Actually, if he got up
Speaker 2: at six, I'm an hour and thirty behind this cat.
Speaker 2: So I used to think, like this ami in New York,
Speaker 2: it's some cats on the East Coast, they already working
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Damn, I'm late. So I used to hit
Speaker 2: the beast like four thirty. And then I used to
Speaker 2: you know, I used to go through all of us
Speaker 2: with the workout and then the gym, and then I'm
Speaker 2: done by like twelve, right, And then I used to think, like, damn, y'all,
Speaker 2: they don't even respect that nigga get up and through
Speaker 2: this every day like this, then they gonna let me do.
Speaker 2: So I started losing appreciation for them appreciating me. I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, somewhere somebody else gonna show
Speaker 2: you some love, you know, or show you hope. So
Speaker 2: and then I sat with Chancey them cause they used
Speaker 2: to meet me in the workout in the middle of
Speaker 2: the workout when we went to the gym, and they
Speaker 2: was like Chances like, Dad, you gotta get off that shit.
Speaker 2: Him and t Lou was just sawing me like, yo,
Speaker 2: you gotta this your chance to go get with somebody,
Speaker 2: and you can give me somebody real you can man
Speaker 2: that same shit you doing. And Soda boy, you gonna
Speaker 2: put there with somebody else. Boy, you you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I was like, shou, I shot at
Speaker 2: kod He even really picked the line up, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So tlew and cold close. So he
Speaker 2: was like shoot at him again, see what he owns.
Speaker 2: So I shot it. He ain't hit back. So I
Speaker 2: had to make a decision coming down. And then you know,
Speaker 2: I'm making decisions by my selfish shit. So this is
Speaker 2: the first time I got to I'm talking to my
Speaker 2: my wife at the time, and I'm like asking her
Speaker 2: like and She's like, go with your gut. So I
Speaker 2: was like, shit, Danny Ainge's flew in and he just
Speaker 2: got right to it and showed the vision and the
Speaker 2: vision he was saying, you better have somebody talk to you.
Speaker 2: And as they talk to you, you can see what
Speaker 2: they're saying so much that you're not even looking at
Speaker 2: them no more. But you see, that's how he was painting,
Speaker 2: and he was ra Picasso. And this is Danny Inge's
Speaker 2: greatness in him being able to lure you in his
Speaker 2: charming ass. You know what I'm saying. I didn't even
Speaker 2: know he was finessing me and were do you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, sauted like
Speaker 2: a mother for the right. But then what I did
Speaker 2: know I had watched him a couple of times and
Speaker 2: when I first off film of Rondo in Massive Square Guard,
Speaker 2: he got the crazy clip of he scored the ball.
Speaker 2: I think he stole it and didn't get an N
Speaker 2: one and something. So I saw that, but I thought
Speaker 2: his name, my a d d Ass thought he was
Speaker 2: African and some ship. So I was like, yeah, what's
Speaker 2: up with the little African guards? I'm talking about Sebastian. Nah,
Speaker 2: I know Sebastian. I'm talking about the little the the
Speaker 2: little African niggas, So you like African. I was like yeah,
Speaker 2: uh you know June or something. He was like like,
Speaker 2: you're talking about race John, You're talking about Rondo. Like yeah, Rono,
Speaker 2: you gotta keep you gotta keep the African kid. Yo.
Speaker 2: If I come to the Boston, you gotta keep the
Speaker 2: African kid because he was in the package. I was like,
Speaker 2: it's like, uh uh, I think he's gonna no, we
Speaker 2: can't do it then. And then I actually called Steve
Speaker 2: Nash just to the courtesy and the the the U
Speaker 2: I guess the car. He hit me back, was like, yo,
Speaker 2: if you come down here, we need you to take
Speaker 2: a major pay cut.
Speaker 4: Mm.
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, uh if I come down there,
Speaker 2: I'm playing with you. I'm playing with you and us
Speaker 2: uh Mari right said yeah, I think they gonna give
Speaker 2: a Mari up for you and sh and and and Sean.
Speaker 2: And I said, so hold on me.
Speaker 3: This me and you.
Speaker 2: It's like yeah. I was like, so I gotta pake
Speaker 2: a pay cut and then I gotta get back in
Speaker 2: this position. And we in the west two y'ard so
Speaker 2: this ain't you know. I'm sitting here like man, so
Speaker 2: little yeah, alright, let me do wanna man, let me
Speaker 2: think about all this shit like sh sh, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I just sat on it. It's
Speaker 2: like now I'm I'm going to Beantown. Plus it's the
Speaker 2: East Coast. I ain't never playing the East Coast. So
Speaker 2: he ain't give us a thumb. I when I looked
Speaker 2: at all my options, we was at the Boospec respectful,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because I was seeing how
Speaker 2: y'all was. But I needed I needed a superstar in
Speaker 2: that whole mix. Always you always like some bandits, You
Speaker 2: always like they always like the little the little rats
Speaker 2: on City of God running around stealing shot. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You have to respect them little niggas.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, the rats, y'all, y'all know
Speaker 2: City of God rat the little niggas, and that they are. Man,
Speaker 2: they was little hood looms. They ran the street. That's
Speaker 2: how y'all was. Joe's like, oh man, they switch everything.
Speaker 2: They got this on orthodox. You're thinking, Steven here balowitchis
Speaker 2: stopping hitting the three, now get up. He ain't dunking
Speaker 2: that like it was just so unorthodox. At the time
Speaker 2: that y'all had had the whole league like off the
Speaker 2: square like and then it's like they look like they
Speaker 2: just having fun. I can't come over there with my
Speaker 2: serious as everything. You know what I'm I'm just looking
Speaker 2: at it like I want to play against me, you
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 5: I'm on the inside were looking at it like, boy,
Speaker 5: we imagine KG with pace beaches with KG. It's a difference, wow,
Speaker 5: with all us on the outside actually having somebody thought
Speaker 5: it because you know, Al.
Speaker 2: Had to go out, y'all mean s and then y'all
Speaker 2: don't know, man I was, But when y'all mean turn
Speaker 2: it's really nothing nobody can do. Y'all like like y'all's
Speaker 2: jump shots like all the way up here, like you
Speaker 2: like on the turnaround, You're like, man, do what I'm doing.
Speaker 5: You have two days off after we played, y'all get it.
Speaker 5: And you know what Al used to actually keep him
Speaker 5: out the paint.
Speaker 2: If you do if you do your work early, and
Speaker 2: that's the that's the kind of the lingo and where
Speaker 2: you don't let him come down and sit on the blocks.
Speaker 2: Y'all mean, can damn it be at the three point
Speaker 2: line and do the same turnaround and hit it like
Speaker 2: it was nothing. Y'all's touch a man A shot that
Speaker 2: y'all mean man, that would be another y'all mean like
Speaker 2: that man he was. He was specially straight up. But
Speaker 2: I ended up doing the Boston thing. And then on
Speaker 2: Draft night they got Ray and uh it made the
Speaker 2: whole deal a lot sweeter, and we was we was
Speaker 2: going after that bro. I knew we was going to
Speaker 2: no bullshit. I knew he was gonna win that ship.
Speaker 2: The first time I we stepped into like the first
Speaker 2: like you know how like September coming you all work
Speaker 2: out together, and I saw how the how that ship was.
Speaker 2: I had never been in like our first workout with
Speaker 2: guys I had never played with and it was just
Speaker 2: it was just, it was just it was just. And
Speaker 2: then the guys we was playing against the change posey
Speaker 2: fucking like we were just playing a bunch of the
Speaker 2: next Eddie House, a bunch of just Tony Allen Man
Speaker 2: go get us, big Perk, Leon Poe by in here.
Speaker 2: Nate won there yet next year, just the first year
Speaker 2: we was all together, and it.
Speaker 3: Was just.
Speaker 2: I heard Folk come in. I heard Folk tell the
Speaker 2: story about when we first played you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: saying like it was. But the synergy was that day one.
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew we had a chance to get
Speaker 2: somewhere that we was not normal from when I doing this.
Speaker 2: This wasn't normal. This was above average right here. This
Speaker 2: is what I was looking for.
Speaker 4: So you guys kind of started, I mean through a
Speaker 4: different process. But the big three, you mean, Y, Paul, yourself,
Speaker 4: you get Ray, Draft Knight, mm and the synergies instant.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, the synergy's instant. You know, the synergy
Speaker 3: is yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess where you put it like that? Yeah, it
Speaker 2: in advertently and it virt We wasn't like mapping it
Speaker 2: out like that. I think Ray was trying to come
Speaker 2: back east too, uh because of his uh you know,
Speaker 2: he had foundings in Connecticut and uh family that was
Speaker 2: you know in that area or whatever. So he was
Speaker 2: just trying to come back and trans transition and kind
Speaker 2: of let that be like the tell end and be
Speaker 2: on their side. So I think it was all just
Speaker 2: synergy with him and then it just all came together.
Speaker 2: It helped that Paul and I was friends. I knew Ray,
Speaker 2: uh and and I we were friends, uh, but we
Speaker 2: didn't know none of the younger guys. Ta was a
Speaker 2: younger version of Chicago. When I was in Chicago, Leon Poe,
Speaker 2: they was all younger versions. Big Baby he was all
Speaker 2: younger versions. I had new Perk Hat plays against Perk
Speaker 2: Perk and I used to play like we used to bang.
Speaker 2: I mean, like really have issues with each other, to
Speaker 2: where I had to ask people like, Yo, you know
Speaker 2: we're coming over there, Perk gonna be okay, because man,
Speaker 2: you don't know, like when we go at it, we
Speaker 2: really about to fight. He'd be like, you know how
Speaker 2: like if one person like going years over bail, you
Speaker 2: know one gonna wait, you know that's come down like that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, Yo, why this little hogh haired
Speaker 2: nigga like gobba jass nigga coming out here like coolig
Speaker 2: you trash nig I'm not gonna interact with you nigga,
Speaker 2: Like who is this? Not knowing that he's coming out
Speaker 2: of high school, he's looking up to me, he trying
Speaker 2: to he's trying to you know, we're trying to trying
Speaker 2: to raise this ship. I raised him. But I'm like
Speaker 2: that you don't who is nigga?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: Kendrick who? Nobody? Nigga? Nobody I gave him twelve, like
Speaker 2: real quick, I better get this nobody off me out here.
Speaker 2: Who you think I ain't no nobody you.
Speaker 5: Want?
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, saying nigga, what you're saying, Speak up, nigga,
Speaker 2: bet my head, buddy, speak up, nigga. You ain't talking
Speaker 2: loud enough, nigga. We both got texts, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I'm but I'm going t t on
Speaker 2: that team. They bunch of young cats, our jeffinit So
Speaker 2: I'm in here, golden and they ship throwing it. Please
Speaker 2: know that ship out of here. Mind. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's messing with him saying what you know
Speaker 2: what they you know he was so they you know,
Speaker 2: as we say, see if he gonna scratch. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: scratched it. Okay. Yeah, I like these young cats. I
Speaker 2: knew what I had with that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because there was a whole bunch of young guys coming
Speaker 2: up in the league that we was needing to have
Speaker 2: some young guys that kind of you know, met that too,
Speaker 2: so it was good.
Speaker 4: Tell me what it was like getting a chance to
Speaker 4: play with Paul Pierce because to me, he's one of
Speaker 4: the most underrated most stores, clutch motherfuckers in the history
Speaker 4: the gas footwork all time.
Speaker 2: Listen man, Me and P played together very young in life.
Speaker 2: And uh, if anybody know PEP is very similar to
Speaker 2: like a stepf or like an AI. When I interact
Speaker 2: with like A, I would say a bigger ego than mine. Uh,
Speaker 2: I played a second And if anybody know me, know
Speaker 2: that I'm a very confident person, very sure person, and
Speaker 2: I can play the side. I'm never gonna play the front.
Speaker 2: If it's a side door, I'm off to the side.
Speaker 2: I'm more of a shadow person. My nigga Pee is
Speaker 2: totally opposite of Now you want to come through the
Speaker 2: front door, won't there? Ignoring him trove he gonna you know,
Speaker 2: he's swagged. Yeah, So with that, he was always able
Speaker 2: to back that up from when we was talking trash
Speaker 2: and when we got into whatever. It wasn't something that
Speaker 2: he couldn't get himself out of. But that's how he operated.
Speaker 2: He needed that that extra whatever that owned for that
Speaker 2: or that swag to get him to perpetuate. And uh,
Speaker 2: I saw him in some of the most critical moments
Speaker 2: be very calm and very even played and even killed
Speaker 2: to where he was so sure of himself to where
Speaker 2: he took big shots and he hit him. My favor
Speaker 2: my favorite p joint is him and Al Harrington. People
Speaker 2: don't know that these two are really good friends, and
Speaker 2: we're all really good friends, and these are two monsters.
Speaker 2: If anybody know, al Ay backing down from nothing. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, al Ain't going nowhere, y'all
Speaker 2: think Jack, like imagine Jack, Well, no, I can't say
Speaker 2: that were another two hundred pounds, but Alis just right there,
Speaker 2: Jack like the meadoworld, p Jack, you getting the same,
Speaker 2: You better come with a hard hat. And when he
Speaker 2: was talking to that shit, I'm gonna hit you in
Speaker 2: the here, right here, I'm letting you know, let you
Speaker 2: know right now, well let me see it then let
Speaker 2: me see Okay, you want to see it? And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh and when p hits like straight, that's
Speaker 2: one of my favorite basketball moments just because both of
Speaker 2: those guys are my friends. But I was able to
Speaker 2: take something from Paul that some of that even killed,
Speaker 2: some of that calmness, some of that that laser like
Speaker 2: you know, you think you're focused until you see somebody else,
Speaker 2: do there or go through there? Whatevers. And I was
Speaker 2: able to, you know, take some of that commonness and
Speaker 2: incorporate it into some of my own games to where
Speaker 2: I thought it made me a better player. But T
Speaker 2: is probably one of the most underrated players of all
Speaker 2: times that we that we have in our history that
Speaker 2: don't get enough slack for, don't get enough of recognition.
Speaker 4: In my tape, you were able to help bring back
Speaker 4: the Celtics Laker rivalry. You guys met in the finals.
Speaker 4: You guys got one, they got one. Tell me what
Speaker 4: it was like going against Shaq and Kobe with your squad.
Speaker 2: Before I got to Boston. Now would battle the Lakers.
Speaker 2: It was always the premier game. It was nothing less.
Speaker 2: Playing Shack was always entertaining, It was always hierarchy was
Speaker 2: always it was always the pinnacle. Cope and I knew
Speaker 2: each other. Shaq and I would befriend each other and
Speaker 2: become friends later, but the match ups was always higher
Speaker 2: and there was always electric I was always felt like
Speaker 2: I was under man so when I had perk, who
Speaker 2: would who battle? Who would battle anybody? And don't care
Speaker 2: about anything? Right, Shaq was in Cleveland as we was
Speaker 2: making our runs and stuff, so I felt like this
Speaker 2: is a great time to have redemption on that whole
Speaker 2: COVID shack thing in the West. I felt like this
Speaker 2: was redemption and now you know, they was kind of separated,
Speaker 2: so that when I when I actually went up against
Speaker 2: both of those guys, it felt like a payback for me.
Speaker 2: But that ship won less than one, less than magical,
Speaker 2: like epic, like not a lot of shit talking out here,
Speaker 2: but it's a lot of buckets. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of tapping, it's a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: it's a lot you better get over here, like you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and and there's a bunch of it. Nah,
Speaker 2: I ain't no switching. And it was win both ways.
Speaker 2: Even though the big fellow was big and he knew
Speaker 2: he was a house I told him. He came out
Speaker 2: to Cleveland and then doctors like, yo, I need you
Speaker 2: to guard Shock. For like two minutes. I was like,
Speaker 2: holy shit, guarden shack is like holding up the side
Speaker 2: of a house shaw. I was trying to see a
Speaker 2: wall in here, see a fist of wall. I can't
Speaker 2: even describe it. But I played Shock for two minutes
Speaker 2: and couldn't give nobody no high five. I was just
Speaker 2: like the arms was so tired, y'all. I couldn't. I
Speaker 2: couldn't Like if you slapped me, I would have to
Speaker 2: be like you know what I'm saying. I couldn't even go.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even protect myself. But playing those two brought
Speaker 2: the best out of you every time you played them.
Speaker 2: Every time you played COVID was nothing shy or nothing,
Speaker 2: nothing less than the electric and it was all about
Speaker 2: uh winds. It was all about wins and rings. And
Speaker 2: when I got the Boston it was just it was
Speaker 2: just just different times. But I've always enjoyed playing against
Speaker 2: those guys. There was always a challenge to play those guys,
Speaker 2: and it was always hard to get a win on them.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying straight up?
Speaker 4: So a Hall of Fame career, I mean, you'll go
Speaker 4: inducted at twenty twenty. I mean, tell me what that
Speaker 4: kid from South Carolina that came up the way you
Speaker 4: came up Mom's working graveyard, You having to do what
Speaker 4: you have to do to everythink that twenty five years
Speaker 4: later you could be abducting to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Tell me what that feels like.
Speaker 2: I never thought that. I never really I never really
Speaker 2: cite my I really never put that on the goal,
Speaker 2: never put that on the paper. It was all about
Speaker 2: busting these guys asked right here and crossing their name out.
Speaker 2: It was always about being the best in this right
Speaker 2: here and putting your name at the top and that
Speaker 2: and that, and that was it. I never really imagine
Speaker 2: taking this and being global. I never had a vision
Speaker 2: of that. I just wanted to be able to have
Speaker 2: a list of motherfuckers that you thought was better than me,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to bust all they ass And that
Speaker 2: was it.
Speaker 4: Cob had a kill list too. We talked, we got
Speaker 4: kill You need a little kill list. What you're doing,
Speaker 4: You ain't got no vision who you chasing, who you being?
Speaker 4: Who the king in the mountain?
Speaker 2: Like, right, that's what That's what competition is, Joe. It's
Speaker 2: about who's on king in the mountain, who's on top,
Speaker 2: and how and how you can take him off that
Speaker 2: or her, you know what I'm saying, like straight up.
Speaker 2: And then that's polishing your tools and at the same
Speaker 2: time pushing it. You know, you gotta push this line
Speaker 2: of creativity, gotta push the lines of competition, gotta push
Speaker 2: this line of originality. You know, like for me that
Speaker 2: that's everything.
Speaker 4: Jack and I are someone who we've talked about this
Speaker 4: with other guests, you know, guys that used cannabis throughout
Speaker 4: our career because we felt like it helped us sleep,
Speaker 4: pain folks, whatever.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: What do you think, how with the narrative finally shifting
Speaker 4: about cannabis, what about you your thoughts about cannabis and sports?
Speaker 2: I think education, man, I think when it comes to cannabis,
Speaker 2: people have to understand that uh. I think they see
Speaker 2: cannabis in their recreational use, and educational has to come
Speaker 2: out about the about the uh, the healing parts of them,
Speaker 2: the benefits of it. I think I think as a
Speaker 2: so society meaning that it's some more older or more
Speaker 2: older society thinking of the ways of recreations to more
Speaker 2: millennials and younger kids, is really exposing and giving this
Speaker 2: education to the benefits. And I think our society is changing,
Speaker 2: and I think everybody's starting to see the more and
Speaker 2: poorly the benefits. I think the sooners they get CBDs
Speaker 2: into sports, I think we'll start to see a bigger change.
Speaker 2: You know, you guys don't know that we probably take
Speaker 2: about sixty seven pills a night before we play no clue.
Speaker 2: And that's just to be able to step on the court.
Speaker 2: You got innocent, you got vijaks, you got too taller
Speaker 2: and oil, you got two avias. The kidney is over
Speaker 2: supposed to be able to process for so much. If
Speaker 2: we're not hydrating and bringing liquids and fluids and draining
Speaker 2: that your liver is catching all that, your kidneys are
Speaker 2: catching all that, man, Believe it or not, it makes
Speaker 2: a difference. It makes a difference in joint pain to
Speaker 2: be able to sit a pill, just how we sit.
Speaker 2: If your shit is hurting, hey, motherfuck out them and
Speaker 2: listen and shit is popping, and shit is moving, and
Speaker 2: get out. This seat is an issue. And you never
Speaker 2: think about that ship as you're putting it in and
Speaker 2: as you're going you just think about, you know, short
Speaker 2: term solutions. Cannapis has brought some of those solutions to
Speaker 2: to date to where they're more beneficial for the organs
Speaker 2: and for your every day believe it or not, you know,
Speaker 2: I always say to who's his own, use his own,
Speaker 2: Just be respectful and responsible with it.
Speaker 4: Home stretch right here, your top five team without yourself,
Speaker 4: who's your top who's your starting five minus yourself.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go magic Cole Jordan's Wilton shot, going really big,
Speaker 2: really firm. I want to be to switch. I want
Speaker 2: to be to switch one through three, Funnel everything to
Speaker 2: the middle, big fella. Lay everybody out on my bench.
Speaker 2: I got, yeah, I got, I got, I know, I
Speaker 2: got Russell, and I got Russell on my bench because
Speaker 2: he gonna come in and bring a whole nother pain.
Speaker 2: I got Aljah on at my four. I gotta put
Speaker 2: Jamal Mashburn because he's one of my favorite players. Three
Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm gonna put Steph in the yard my
Speaker 2: one and two just because I love you. Man A
Speaker 2: probably an other superstar who doesn't really get a lot
Speaker 2: of recognition off of I was a goddamn beyond a superstar.
Speaker 2: He was a he was a culturally superstar. He was
Speaker 2: he wasn't afraid of anything. Anything he was he was.
Speaker 2: He was really the example of small ball and really
Speaker 2: taking it to another level. Hey, y'all, dude, I called
Speaker 2: him a easy because he make everything look easy and
Speaker 2: shout the AI man and everything he did.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, real ship, Seeing that we're
Speaker 4: here at all Star, what is what is your favorite
Speaker 4: All Star moment?
Speaker 2: Favorite All Star moment events sitting on the floor, believe
Speaker 2: it or not, I got that footage to y'all know, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: no it come see me, motherfuckers think y'all getting this
Speaker 2: ship for free. Y'all kissed my eyes right, going that
Speaker 2: ink hollow right, But I got that. That was probably
Speaker 2: one of my favorite because all my friends was probably
Speaker 2: two couple of rolls and we got to see that,
Speaker 2: and it was the first time the world got to
Speaker 2: really see Vince like we knew Vin's in high school,
Speaker 2: grew up with Da Da YadA, and for him to
Speaker 2: like put that on display like that and just give
Speaker 2: us an unbelievable A lot of people don't know Tracy
Speaker 2: and Steve too. Stacy and Stevens on that too, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That was one of the better
Speaker 2: before Zach and Gordon. Uh, that was probably my favorite.
Speaker 2: That was probably my favorite. Uh dounk I tell some time.
Speaker 2: But out of all the stuff men I've I've always
Speaker 2: been able to pull some out of each All Star Game,
Speaker 2: one of my favorites was coming out. I was getting
Speaker 2: ready to I was leaving the All Star Game and
Speaker 2: I had a bag of stuff and I was coming
Speaker 2: out and Craig Sager needed an interview for his clothes
Speaker 2: out and I didn't want to do it, and I
Speaker 2: was trying to, you know, we didn't hit back. Look
Speaker 2: like you know, like you know how you play shadow,
Speaker 2: You're trying to get by somebody. I'm like, trade what
Speaker 2: you're doing. I gotta catch my plane, get the fuck
Speaker 2: out of here, YadA, YadA. So my assistant shout the bill.
Speaker 2: I call him shitty. I threw shitty the bag and said, yo,
Speaker 2: shitt he takes this to the planet and trying to
Speaker 2: get out, and he said, yo, just give me two seconds.
Speaker 2: I need an hour. I said, get the funk out
Speaker 2: of my way. And I kind of pushed him, you know,
Speaker 2: I kind of gave him some whatever. And he was like, man,
Speaker 2: I saw how he look. I said, come on, man,
Speaker 2: fuck it, come on, and he and and I was,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say whatever I want to say. Okay,
Speaker 2: just give me this. I just need thirty seconds to
Speaker 2: get out of here. Okay, okay, okay, and go. And
Speaker 2: then I saw what he had on. I looked and
Speaker 2: I said, hold on, hold on. So look, you know,
Speaker 2: I never try to go at you right, like what
Speaker 2: the fuck? Like really, what the fuck is this dog?
Speaker 2: Like really you came to the game like this dog
Speaker 2: and he was trying to get an interview. I was like, Noah,
Speaker 2: funck all that lo no burn all this ship, everything
Speaker 2: the green throw to all this and all of it, yo,
Speaker 2: and kind of gave him a little sound aboute and
Speaker 2: see it what up and then got out of there
Speaker 2: and I turned around and I was like, gave shot
Speaker 2: your thanks, but yeah, like this, shout the crag ya and.
Speaker 5: We know, I know we normally end the show y'all
Speaker 5: with a with a begging segment, but before I do
Speaker 5: my begging segment, I want to.
Speaker 2: We have some stuff for you. We have some all
Speaker 2: the smoke giar for you. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So some of them that bongs pre rolls in that moll.
Speaker 2: Don't cut me short now right, shout to the goat
Speaker 2: as we're giving you your all the smoke gears past
Speaker 2: my brother you the first one. But this is what
Speaker 2: we do need though. This is this is Jersey. You
Speaker 2: need house.
Speaker 5: I don't care what team it is. You gotta pick
Speaker 5: a team. I don't I don't care what team it is. Okay,
Speaker 5: you were great your whole career to be all right,
Speaker 5: I got you. That's all I need.
Speaker 3: Man, that's a rap.
Speaker 2: Man. We just really than your Chicago first live show,
Speaker 2: real ship. It was live, but c K two y'all.
Speaker 4: I think obviously in the tragedy of cold rest in peace.
Speaker 4: We want to give you your flowers while you're here. Man,
Speaker 4: We appreciate everything you did for the game, your greatness,
Speaker 4: the way you've passed it to this next generation, and
Speaker 4: just fucking be you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: We respect the ship. Have you for that, man, Thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you, no doubt y'all. Man, goodloveciate you back for
Speaker 3: you having y'all seen.
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, thanks ship, said Kate Gisel.
Speaker 3: That's a rap with smoking in the back. Come sucking
Speaker 3: with us.
Speaker 2: N I gotta light, I gotta fe mm hmm mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Mmm mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm
Speaker 2: Mm hmm