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Speaker 1: This is Matt Barnes. You're listening to All the Smoke

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Speaker 2: We needed to get this conversation started. Then I'm messed up.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a Voice's.

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Speaker 2: Important people in the city. If it ends, I feel

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Speaker 2: bad for the kids here.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot to prove, and you always feel

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Speaker 3: like they don't.

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Speaker 2: Believe in you.

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Speaker 4: Once you're painted as a bad guy in the NBA,

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Speaker 4: that's what you are.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes your emotions take control and eventually you kind of

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Speaker 2: turned into an aggression.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you gotta go through a storm to find some sunshine.

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Speaker 2: How do you think piece is accomplished through war? Finish

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Speaker 2: a new fish? Thank good time playing it? Lion looked decimitation,

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Speaker 2: look fast, fucking loved it. I got a mass Damn

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Speaker 2: y'all born of the motherfucker.

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Speaker 5: I say something shit, say something man, mass sitness motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Man say something like the cock up ship, go boring

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Speaker 2: ass show y'all, wake you ass up.

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Speaker 4: Shit, y'all gotta stop smoking indigo before noon. That's what

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Speaker 4: it is, y'all smoking too much indigo.

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Speaker 5: Here, I can go outside and find some mother motherfuckers

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Speaker 5: come here and make more noise in that.

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Speaker 2: Man. How y'all doing show? Shi wall the motherfucker smoke.

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Speaker 4: Welcome y'all, man all start twenty twenty coming to you, lo.

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Speaker 4: This is our first live show, so we fuck up.

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Speaker 4: Just keep going with it, y'all on our first live show.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate y'all, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys taking time to come hang out with

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Speaker 4: us today. We're just gonna have fun, talk shit, man,

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Speaker 4: to see you. My brother God were out here. The

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Speaker 4: hands are nice and fry.

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Speaker 2: You good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out Sam. She got nice and dry.

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Speaker 2: And she just usually wet. Yeah twenty.

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Speaker 4: So we out here man, Like I said twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: All Stars Chicago, It's an honor to be out here.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's coach is motherfucker out here.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: It's stopped my smoking. Take if I got to smoke outside,

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Speaker 4: I'm not smoking.

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Speaker 2: It will just no. I don't say that.

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Speaker 3: We just gonna limit the puffs six real quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, get out.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, man, without further ado, Man, I want to

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Speaker 4: introduce to me one of the greatest power forwards ever to.

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Speaker 3: Play the game.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And it's an honor to have him or he went

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Speaker 4: to high school coming back out here and fuck with us.

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Speaker 4: So man, So everyone welcome Kevin Garnett.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Man? Thank you brothers, appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Up.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's close to you.

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Speaker 3: Get comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Get comfortable man after the shop.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's an honor. Man.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you taking the time to come fuck with

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Speaker 2: Thank y'all for having me on him. Man, I've been

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Speaker 2: watching y'all joint. Man, y'all getting better and better. I

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Speaker 2: told y'all this in the back. Man. This y'all got,

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Speaker 2: y'all one. Man, appreciate it. I'm a huge fan. Man.

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Speaker 4: But also ship before we go going, man, we want

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Speaker 4: to welcome you to the Showtime family.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. Appreciate that. Congratulationship.

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Speaker 4: Can you explain to the crowd a little bit about

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Speaker 4: what you're doing with show Time now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Showtime and I teaming up partner up during the

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Speaker 2: twenty five year decision on coming out of high school

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Speaker 2: Now I'm telling the story on how we got here.

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Speaker 2: You know you watch, well where do I start? You

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Speaker 2: watching how the moves and how these kids are playing.

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Speaker 2: You're watching the styles and how they dressing. You're watching

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Speaker 2: So I'm taking everybody and all these young millenniums on

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Speaker 3: You know, so who started this gangster shit? You about

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Speaker 2: But you know, at some point it was a rip

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Speaker 2: We've been in that change you started because I came

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Speaker 2: after you, after you. What I'm saying ninety six was

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Speaker 4: So, like you said, twenty five years removed from Farragut Academy,

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Speaker 4: What what went into your decision to kylle j for me?

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Speaker 2: You know what, man, A lot of people don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: I had my I had. I had a lot of

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Speaker 2: even there to take advantage of. And that's that's really

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Speaker 2: I don't think David Stirring, another of the league, thought

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Speaker 4: We're gonna visit your career later on. But post retirement,

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Speaker 3: What are you get to? Joid the most? Being done

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Speaker 2: Getting rest straight up? You you play so much, you

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Speaker 2: time and your time that you have to yourself is everything, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, being able to you know, take my kids

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Speaker 2: play thing, catch right, man, that's that's huge for me.

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Speaker 2: So being able to do that, it's like everything. So

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Speaker 3: People don't understand.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like they said, they see our seasons eight months,

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Speaker 3: If you go to the finals, go to the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: But we may maybe take a month off, maybe three weeks.

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Speaker 4: it's eleven months around, you know, it's eleven out of

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Speaker 2: You don't get like all this workload and what is it? Load? Man?

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Speaker 2: I wish there was no such thing. We still been

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Speaker 2: So you working on six or seven different things every day.

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Speaker 2: I never, I never, I never messed around with that.

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Speaker 2: That was something that I took pride in. And then

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Speaker 2: being able to play hurt. Then they played through something.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about just on the court. Mom's

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Speaker 2: in Denver right now. What's what like? You have no

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Speaker 4: And that's that's what kind of we strive to when

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Speaker 4: we have our guesses, is to humanize you guys and

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Speaker 4: humanize us because we go through the same shit everyone

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Speaker 4: else goes. It's just everything is in front of the world,

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Speaker 4: season and it's all over TMZ and ESPN, but we

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Speaker 2: You earn that. I don't think it's our place to

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, just being able to he was like

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you Mama and O'Neil, thank you, thank

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Speaker 4: That's all. So I bring a basketball. Absolutely, we gonna

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Speaker 4: So to me, older players, it's not this, it's not that.

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Speaker 2: Yo he caught it, and I look and he shot

436
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,720
Speaker 2: a jump hook and the look and he shot the

437
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 2: jump and I looked at him and Sam Mitchell right

438
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 2: after he right after, right after he the jump hook

439
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 2: on my had to take it out whatever. He came

440
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 2: up and he slapped the ship out me. Lord slapped

441
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 2: what the ship? You can't do that out here. You

442
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 2: can't be a fan out here. I know you love him.

443
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 2: You gotta bust his ass though, And that was the

444
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 2: last time that ever happened. Straight up, he slapped the

445
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 2: dog ship out of me. In a game, my favorite

446
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,399
Speaker 2: player shot a jump hook on him and I was

447
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 2: in all of it, and and I had lost it.

448
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 2: I lost all all the fans. I had to actually

449
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 2: put it to this cloud the fan out because I've

450
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 2: seen Diesel and did the damn like you seen Shaq

451
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,920
Speaker 2: first time. That never seen Shaq first time, first time. Man,

452
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: Shaq came out like God. I kept looking up. Meanwhile,

453
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm seven foot y'all. I was like god, damn, like

454
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 2: this shack was up and he talking real fastness that

455
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: country Faither'm goodbody? Did you always give you that little

456
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: quick answer is good good? But Diesels, He's just diesels, good,

457
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 2: good people. Man, you know, but yeah, man, where was

458
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: I wanted to be? Like? Where?

459
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,199
Speaker 5: I wanted to be a better version of where? Yeah silent?

460
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 5: So me and me and man have the same passion.

461
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 5: But I always tell people our passion for the game

462
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 5: and what basketball means to me, you cannot teach. You know,

463
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 5: I knew what basketball could do for my life, my

464
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 5: family's life.

465
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

466
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 5: Your passion for the game, your emotion for the game.

467
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 5: Who do you credit that to?

468
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: Energy? My mom? My mom? My mom is a straight

469
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: up ge straight up yeah. And she used to work

470
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: graveyard if y'all know what graveyard is, graveyard six six

471
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: to six you in the morning, right, She did that

472
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 2: for a number of years. And then watching that, watching

473
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: how she would come home and still have energy to

474
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: get us ready for school, get us to school, and

475
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: then we had to actually go to school, be something.

476
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 2: So you know, we was under that. So whenever I

477
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: came out, I understood responsibility very early. So when I

478
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 2: would when I would prepare for something or you know,

479
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: whether it was a school project or whatever, I would

480
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 2: put everything into it. So when it came to practicing basketball,

481
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: I used to get my ass busted. I used to

482
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 2: I was in a rougher neighborhood. Then I moved to

483
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: a nicer neighborhood, and then this nice neighborhood. They didn't

484
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: play football, they didn't street fight, they didn't slap Boston.

485
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: You know. They was more polished, polished individuals. You know,

486
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: they wore college shirts and polos. And it was my

487
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 2: first time actually like what they helped us, seeing like

488
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: black excellence. It was like a better neighborhood, but it

489
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 2: was where parents were doing better. Moving from the hood,

490
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: that's when that whole transition started. Where you had the backyard.

491
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 2: In front yard, you couldn't tell you shit after that, right,

492
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 2: coming from the project, right, and you just thought you

493
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: made it. But down here it was playing basketball. So

494
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: to be better, I just I used to work on

495
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 2: my ship. I used to watch Derek Coleman. I used

496
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: to watch Kenny Anderson. I used to I used to

497
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: have fans of people that I wanted to be like,

498
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: and I worked on that shit. But then working and

499
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: all this, I used to always put like my version

500
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: of that into like how I would do it because

501
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: I won't I didn't have big shoulders. I wann't this big,

502
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: you know, mass of a person, so I just had

503
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 2: to I used to always creatively make it work for me.

504
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: But my mom was the first part of me learning

505
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: what hard work and pushing through and being mentally strong.

506
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: She was my first and probably my only decent example

507
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 2: in which I obviously took from players and stuff, but

508
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: when it came I never got the CMJ practice or prepare,

509
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: but I prepared with laser focus and uh little laser concentration,

510
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: so that when I got on the court, I knew

511
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: exactly how it was gonna be and I was following

512
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: that vision. And uh to touch on that, like it's it.

513
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 5: It's crazy because before I even met you, seeing you

514
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 5: play basketball, I knew that we would relating. And now

515
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 5: you talk about the graveyard shipt not like we we

516
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 5: basically the same person, because like I can, I can

517
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,239
Speaker 5: see how your mama made you strong, because y'all ya

518
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 5: got y'all gotta i'm i'm'a, i'm'a reiterate that on that.

519
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 5: Growing up, you come home from school four five, your

520
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 5: mom at work right six in the morning, getting ready

521
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 5: to school, she coming home.

522
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: So you don't even see your mama some days.

523
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying on top of that, and

524
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 5: then now you're relying on your grandmother somebody else to

525
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 5: be that parent dog so that that shit can take

526
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 5: a toll on you absolute bit as a kid. Now

527
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 5: you're trying to figure out how you gonna get the

528
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 5: wisdom and stuff to make it because your mom it works,

529
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 5: You're not getting.

530
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 2: It from us.

531
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 5: So so just seeing seeing your passion, Like before I

532
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 5: met you, I knew that I was gonna relate to

533
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 5: you and and even now have the utmost respect for you.

534
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 5: But I knew he was gonna relate, and I knew

535
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 5: kind of our same upbringing was gonna bring us.

536
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 2: To the same place.

537
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: It's energy too, I mean, I think obviously you know

538
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 4: what your energy is. What I was always drawn to

539
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: when you were one of the players that I was

540
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 4: just like, man, I wish I could just play with

541
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 4: this dude, you.

542
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

543
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 4: Because when I talked to like, right, we'll get to

544
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: that too, talking about Big Baby Davis and Nate Robinson

545
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 4: and Perk there, like.

546
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: Damn, you and KG would have got along like this, y'all.

547
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers just both out there going crazy, you know what

548
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 4: I mean.

549
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: So I just loved your energy.

550
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: You're starting in the pregame where your motherfucking running and

551
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 4: breathing hard and slapping the back of the back sweat

552
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: trying to I'm.

553
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Just like watching one of the great We gotta watch.

554
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: Watch and we're watching greatness.

555
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: We respect speaking on it.

556
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 5: Speaking of that, let's talk about the Western Conference in

557
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 5: the nineties early two thousands. I mean that all over

558
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 5: Tim Duncan, Rashee Wallace, Carl Along Barkley, Dirt, Barkley, Dirk.

559
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 5: See Web, I can keep going down to make dice

560
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 5: every night.

561
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: You had to be ready, you know, as crazy is

562
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: the West? Was the West the wild every day? Listen.

563
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: I know the guard played right now in sports is

564
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: kind of like you know, the golf playing the right.

565
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: But the pot four back then was like every night

566
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't it really wasn't a night off.

567
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: You know, you would have guys who I would even

568
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: throw Danny Manny in this man like the little guys

569
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't necessarily Derrick McKee from UH from Indiana. Uh.

570
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: Nobody really talks about big Dog, you know, Web, She dice.

571
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: Dirk was young, but then he came into himself. Joe

572
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: Smith nobody talks about Joe Smith like man it was,

573
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: it was. It was Charles Barkley came alone, like it was.

574
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: And then David Robinson would float because Dennis Robins played five,

575
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: so he would float sometime to four and he had

576
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: all agility to face you hit you with a you know.

577
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 2: So every night it was, it was, it was just

578
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: it was just a challenge at the position. But at

579
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: the same time, while you're sitting up here, you know,

580
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: appreciating everybody else's style, you really having to light on

581
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: your own and actually come with like I told y'all,

582
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: still sharp and still. And I used to always be

583
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: prepared for whatever and whoever, and I didn't want to

584
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: ever be the one that didn't have the energy or

585
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: or didn't have to know how Like everybody that that

586
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: that's ever played with me will tell you two things.

587
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: I'm prepared to play and it's whatever, Like I'm one

588
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: of them. That's one of them. I'm one of them

589
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: teammates that's gonna ride even if you're wrong, I'm ring,

590
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about how wrong you are later, but

591
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: right now I'm in it, going throw it, throw it

592
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: like we out here, and you know, my mentality has

593
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: always been like that. So that's why when you know,

594
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: I when i'm when I befriend somebody or we become

595
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: teammates and be really feeling like we family, because that's

596
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: how we hold it's where it goes. Yeah, yeah, all that, Yeah,

597
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: two thirty two thousands. Who's the toughest match every think? Yeah? Them,

598
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: you bust everybody ass. You know, I want to know

599
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: who got you? Who got you? Listen my first my first,

600
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: God damn was big dog Man on the you know,

601
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of Milwaukee, Big Dog Like. It's just like,

602
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: you know, my rookie year. I'm coming in here. And

603
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: plus I'm used to in high school playing bigs. I

604
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: wasn't used to playing threes and chasing football guards off

605
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: guards and didn't have a crazy handle. And I played a

606
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 2: couple of guards, but not not like this, not like

607
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: this big dog. Not like this big dog is a

608
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: whole another level. And I was like, holy snap, yeah,

609
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: like thirty eight in the in the in the preseason game.

610
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 2: You know, pre seasons supposed to be taking it light.

611
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: You're going through the motions, YadA YadA, big dog guy here,

612
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: dripping he out here, making noise and growling and talking

613
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: ship and I ain't gonna front. I was like, it was,

614
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: it was, it was a lot. It was over my head.

615
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: And I watched the film. And then I watched the film.

616
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: I took took a nap and woke up really early.

617
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: I washed it again, and the time I watched it,

618
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: I got pissed more pissed, And then coaches were telling

619
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: me how he was breaking me down. And then I

620
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: started figuring it out. Okay, he coming off picts like this,

621
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: look he took the angle. He crossed me up right here.

622
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: My hand ain't even So I started picking up the intangibles.

623
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: You don't even know that in the game yard that

624
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: the small stuff the hand contests to swipe at the ball,

625
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, just the little slap at the knee, All

626
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: that means something in basketball. If you don't do that

627
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: and he goes up and makes a clear shot that

628
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: he can make that you put your hand up. It

629
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: changed the whole dynamic of that. So when I figured

630
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 2: that out, I started like, okay, And I'm good at

631
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: mathematics too, So I was always angles. When I would

632
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: attack somebody, I wouldttack somebody's shoulder to shoulder because I

633
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: knew they had the movie. Then I would spin back

634
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: for a left or a comeback. And then when I

635
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: was spinning back, I got that way of me telled

636
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dunk the small fucking So I was on

637
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: that like man like. And then as I started getting better,

638
00:28:53,760 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: I started seeing like the competition falling off, and that liked.

639
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: I started eating it alive. I started getting off on

640
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: that like I was. I would face guys and look

641
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: and then look him in the face, like look at me.

642
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: And I would have guys like you know, Tonio and

643
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: Troyn Jamison. I used to love it. Him and Chris

644
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Bosh would never looked at me on the face, So

645
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: look at me, look look at me on the face,

646
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: knowing I got the whole clock in my head and

647
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: I was swinging, and I always knew I had that,

648
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: so I used to always play to that. But you know,

649
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: this game is about being dominating, and if you're not

650
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: the one stepping on somebody, then you're the one being

651
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: stepped on. And I hate to put it like that,

652
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: but that's that's what it was. And if you didn't

653
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: come with your best, then you got embarrassed straight like that.

654
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: I gotta I can't forget Antoine Walker. He and that

655
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: Cybertwine was a motherfucker. Yeah, he was a moss. He was.

656
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: He was the first that had the candy with the

657
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: big fellow who had all the handles and the all

658
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: trickiness and the floaters and the three ball and the

659
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: knock knees. Cyber Twine was a motherfucker's headache. Yeah, straight up.

660
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: Then Zach Randolph and all these other little guys start

661
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: coming min into the game to start making it all

662
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 2: just just pushing you, pushing. He was dope, man. I

663
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: enjoyed my time in the league. I can't speak for

664
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: everybody else, but my ship was magical, y'all. Dope moment.

665
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: I remember a friend of mine, Yeah, I definitely give

666
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 4: it up. A friend of mine and former UCL Jelani

667
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: McCoy said he played against.

668
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: You somewhere in high school.

669
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: And he said, you.

670
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: Got all the yelling and dunking and yelling and blocking

671
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: and yelling from you.

672
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: Where did you he played with? Listen played one game

673
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: shout five. We Yeah, don't ask me no question about

674
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: the story. A y'all just listen to the goddamn store.

675
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: So when I'm I'm South Carolina's not a lot of

676
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: tournaments and not a lot of national exposure, so I

677
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: would go I got it. I got invited to Nike,

678
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: which was in Indianapolis, where I met Ai. I met

679
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: a lot of my future friends there in that camp,

680
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Runnie Fields, everybody that was there in that camp. So

681
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: in that you got like you're not supposed to at

682
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: that time, but you got like little Hay, you know,

683
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: niggas hanging out and mother fucks over here, Hey on

684
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: k Swiss, hell Mandida's over here. We were in New Jersey,

685
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: so it was a bunch of that going on. Yeah,

686
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: So I be friend of the cat that was from

687
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: uh La and he was with uh K Swiss. I

688
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all sneakerheads. I'm a huge sneakerhead, but

689
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: case one of my favorite right with actually like the

690
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: KSE Swish and the Navy boot slope, right you already know, right,

691
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: So he was like, yo, hey, I can't really give

692
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: you all the shit Nike gain, but I can fly

693
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: you out whatever you ever heard of, Paul Pierce, like

694
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce, Like, nah, I don't want that, Like nah

695
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Catt on the West Coast making line and there you

696
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: ever heard of tell y'all Henderson, Like, man, you ever

697
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: heard a Ricky start naming all these West Coast cats?

698
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: Ricky Price and these are all hitters, y'all all everybody,

699
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm naming to somebody Toby Bailey like all these cats. Right.

700
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Miam, really, you know, I'm over here.

701
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: So he was like, but come on here and see

702
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: what we're talking about. I thought he was full of shit.

703
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: And I see, I know, I get this joint. I

704
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: get my first time I've been on the plane to

705
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: me and my mom, we get you know, I take 'em.

706
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm fifteen, fourteen, fifteen, man, my mom go to Vegas

707
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: on this little whatever, no bread, no nothing, this shit.

708
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: So all take care. But it's a U. So I

709
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: meet Paul Pierce before we go to Vegas. We gotta

710
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: go to LA. We go to Inglewood. So first you know,

711
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm in Inglewood, Like, what is no Inglewood High? I

712
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: met Demani in their shout to DEMONI term five whole

713
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: little you know, the whole West, the whole joint, the

714
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: whole La right now right so p here, I see

715
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: a little fat kid like a little kurroo. You got

716
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: the man Barnes is you know what I'm saying. You

717
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I'm like, who is this little fast?

718
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: So I'm watching them play ones? But then p went

719
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: up and crossed it then dunk that mom. I'm like,

720
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: damn the fat motherfucking jump. So we get to mess around,

721
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: we get to plan, we run over. We were like

722
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: a little practice and it all clicked. We all joking,

723
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: talking share y'all, y'all. We go to Vegas and the

724
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: first thing he say to me is, look all these

725
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: l a niggas gonna be on one team. This nigga

726
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: shake Hotton before Lebron, he was. He was the Ronnie

727
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: Fields of the West Coast, like this ninth eighth grade

728
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: of West Super All Sports Illustrated cover. He was. He was.

729
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: He was before his time, so Shae Ki. And he

730
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: was left handed, and he was nasty, unbelievable, and he

731
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: was a nigga, y'all. He wanted to dunking him talking ship.

732
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: He was witch smoked, he was with whatever, like seriously

733
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: like he was probably a little meaning than Lebron. He

734
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: was respected though, like at an early age, so I

735
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: was I didn't even know none of this. So I'm like,

736
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: he don't whatever, I don't you know, I don't care.

737
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: Let's hope. So he heep pouring everybody out look that

738
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: Jay Hens, Jamal McCourty bright here just this wikie price

739
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: for just to me. So I'm sitting up there like, Okay,

740
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: we're really looking like Lennox and d MX and the

741
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: jointing bell she was looking at. Yeah, I see him

742
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: with the feathers in his head. Yeah, I see him food. Yeah,

743
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: he don't look that big. So I'm we over there

744
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah. So I'm over here getting like a

745
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: check of everybody. So I'm watched Jilani outlet everybody ship

746
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: cour Yard was one of the best high school shop

747
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: blockers I've ever seen, no question. I'm just like just

748
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: how he anticipated and how he and he talking shit, no,

749
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: he throwing it and I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm like, okay,

750
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: that's what he am. Yeah we are so we all

751
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: get to where we go in the championship game, I'm

752
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: already knowing I gotta deal. I gotta turn it all

753
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: the way up. So I'm all the way turning. I'm

754
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: on a thousand So when I'm throwing niggas shot him,

755
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: no peace mine, no blocking your ship, putting it in

756
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: the rim, taking it out, hitting the hitting the backboard twice,

757
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: you know, all the little shit. So I'm no mine, no,

758
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: So I'm doing I'm just go tanning. I'm doing it.

759
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: Just you know, we beat them niggas, Pete bone Shade.

760
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: They go back, you know, but we beat them. We

761
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: wining whatever. I go back to South Carolina. I don't

762
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: even know, but Pete Stock go to the roof, you

763
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So next thing I know, I

764
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: see pe he damn there thirty pounds, slim ship doing

765
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: all type of other ship. Oh yeah, you know, like

766
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: we're growing out of our little bodies. Yea. And yeah,

767
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: that's my first kind of read interaction with Jolanni. We

768
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: were we were all see like see as I'm seeing

769
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: him saying this. So many guys get caught like in

770
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: the wave of just because Jolannie McCoy was a real one,

771
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: Like you know, you had to have you had to

772
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: move him, You had to have a whole package of

773
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: moves for guys like that. Should have had a long career,

774
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: should have had ten fifteen year career. Listen easy him

775
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: and Rodney Fields dog. It was the two biggest uh listen,

776
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: Shae Cott and Ronney Fields and Lenny Cook. The league

777
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: missed out on all three of those, yess and being

778
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: basketball legends in their own right, shout real short class,

779
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: real ship.

780
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 4: So you caught MJ's last three peat ninety six, ninety seven, ninety.

781
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: Eight, I did? We all did? Y'all caught all caught it?

782
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: Tell me what that was like.

783
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: Mike was heat man. You see how like in the

784
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: back of Matt was sitting in front of me and

785
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: I went like this to him. I said, did you

786
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: feel that? I said, yeah, I said, That's how Mike was, y'all,

787
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: Like an he just when he was on the core,

788
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: he was just he was gonna have to look at it, listen.

789
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: And he was a dog. You understand by thing. Mike

790
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: used big words and charisma and the smile, and it's

791
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: a whole nother side to that, y'all. Who I mean

792
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, man, And any and anything that would

793
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: either shake or rattle or wasn't or came off as disrespectful,

794
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 2: he reacted to it. And there was motivation. And I

795
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: actually took a little piece of that out from when

796
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: you play, because when you play, Doll. Y'all don't understand

797
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 2: that you got to be in a certain Me and

798
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: Jack could be best friends. I can be cool with Matt,

799
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 2: but out here I gotta put Matt on his ass

800
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: for this layup. If not, when I get back to

801
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: the locker room and the door shut, it might turn

802
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: into something else from men.

803
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, the way he greeted us walking

804
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 5: up here is a totally different way he get.

805
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: Us for a game. Man, Dad, He don't. He don't

806
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: give us that much love for a game. It's a

807
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: real shady ash for the game. I'm drawing the line

808
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: in the sand, and you know where I'm at. Yeah,

809
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, what's up? It ain't

810
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: the same as when what's up? Doll? I got to

811
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: kill you out here? It's war time. Ain't not personal

812
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 2: but killer kidding. Yeah, And it was harder with friends

813
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: like Chauncey t Lou. I'm glad all my friends were guards.

814
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: You know, I ain't have to guard. You know what

815
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But when I befriended she, it was hard

816
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: playing she sometimes g Trent was one of my good friends.

817
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: It was hard playing those guys. But I know they

818
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: are here trying to they are my throat, so you

819
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: know it was you know, it was easy to hear

820
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: what target? Absolutely, what's your best MJ story? Oh man,

821
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: my best MJ. Well, one of my MJ stories was

822
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: what my favorite one? My favorite MJ story is. Since

823
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: this is out there were in Chicago. You know it's

824
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: my rookie year, second half of the year. You know

825
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: how you you know how, you're not caught on now

826
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: right now? You got your little one two moves, you

827
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: getting them off right now? You got some confidence, right

828
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: So I'm in that. So I'm in the wave. I'm

829
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: playing decent, I'm starting whatever however we get Chicago. Ronnie

830
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: was just in the bad crash. I haven't had no sleep,

831
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: so I'm on the I'm on the getting back to

832
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: the go. I got about seventy people at the game.

833
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: The hood in here. We all live here, right, so

834
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm just on one. But i haven't had no sleep.

835
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm just doing like a you know, I come in here, man,

836
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: And it was hard seeing my partner in the bed

837
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: like that. You had a big ass halo around his neck,

838
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: but he was such in good spirits. Man feels shot

839
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: to Ronnie feels to listen, bro, he was dunking and

840
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: my other doing the same thus with the halo on

841
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: his head, which is crazy. Anyway, I'm playing right, but

842
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: Jr Is having a good game, you know, Jyard might

843
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: j right shot to jay R. So I'm like, so

844
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: as we come at the time out just just I'm

845
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: on y'all, y'all. I can't even explain it. I was

846
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: just like, yo, keep keep killing that nigga, y'all killing

847
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: that boning them? Yo, straight up, you have a good game, Joe,

848
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: keep going. But it was on some light, just fly bylight.

849
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, you too. So as I'm walking

850
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: off nigga right here, Uh Mike can hear me, but

851
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: I ain't really I don't really give a fuck. So

852
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, so I double ballot, Yeah, man, keep killing

853
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: that nigga, Yo, keep killing them on fuck. So as

854
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: I say that, I feel it, hands on hips last lock.

855
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: Then look the nigga stab me for about fifteen seconds.

856
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: You feel let so I start to feel It's two

857
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: ways you can go in this. I can walk this

858
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: off out like I don't even feel it, and play

859
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: it off and and dumb me out. FU fuck that ma,

860
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: I'm in here, I got singing in him, cloning him on,

861
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: hung on the arm, moan, I'm moan, keep killing this nigga. Okay,

862
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: keep it up. So I hear jay, y'all go y'a, alright, y'all,

863
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: fella keep going here, you too. So he trying to

864
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: get me off a note. I don't even you know,

865
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: now that I recall it. He was trying to kind

866
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: of just get off. So we go, so I double back,

867
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: go and get ready to say something. So he goes, hey, look, Mike,

868
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: he don't really know how we I see him. It

869
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: might having a conversation. So he's like, he don't really know,

870
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: he excited whatever. So now MJ on the back leg joint,

871
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: you know that right, Okay? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

872
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. Huh. I can't even even really describe the

873
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: next like sixty seven minutes to play, y'all, and this

874
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: next sixty seven minutes to play, y'all, we get two,

875
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: not one, two ten second calls. You know, you bring

876
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: the ball up. Ten second costs were down twenty five.

877
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: Now it was just that two. Mike had eighteen year

878
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: like forty now, ja y'all myself, we ain't scored in

879
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: like about four minutes, and I subbed like three of

880
00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: the starters, like it's just finally flip it got bad win, y'all.

881
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: I come to the joint and then they know this

882
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: when you come and you've been on the run, you

883
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: not got back on the floor, got back how to

884
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: be back? And you feel like you on defense all

885
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: the time. You come to the bitch like this. So

886
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: I was like, Jay, remember my ba my bad. I'm sorry, man,

887
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Like it's cool, man, I told you shut

888
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: your eyes shut man here, so you got in between

889
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: her gager. Ain't theren where you like? Damn? And that'st thing.

890
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: You know. We are there like this, Mike came down. Okay, y'all, fella, okay, okay,

891
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 2: damn y'all, fella, damn, damn y'all, y'all, Dad, damn y'all.

892
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: I never talked ship to Mike ever given life seen

893
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: him at all. Start apologizing, man, you know I never

894
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: did it. Nobody else but I had that little respect man.

895
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: That's that's Mike.

896
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: And then I apologize to Jay. Y'all, Man, how did

897
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: me to get your man? What said? What was Gerard responding? Man?

898
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: I told you chill out man, all right, But ja,

899
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: y'all was like a cool big brother. Shout to him.

900
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: Man Him and Sam Mitchell they were. They were great

901
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: vests for me. Man Him and Terry Porter they were.

902
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: They was real vests. These were real gee's that they

903
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: had messed up. So when I came in, they was

904
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: really cracking the whip on me on just walking the

905
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: fine line. That's important, and they didn't really understand that ship.

906
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: I won't gonna mess this up for nobody. Don't need

907
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: y'all to be on me like this, But yeah, I

908
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: ain't fro the fuck thisself for me what y'all talking about?

909
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was locked in from day one with them.

910
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: God, that's what's up.

911
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: Trash talking is an art, I think probably to me,

912
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: I may have missed some guys, but you and GP

913
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: were the best at it.

914
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: Where'd that come from?

915
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm in the top ten, I'm gonna be top five.

916
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: I always say that the trash talking, you gotta be

917
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: able to back it up, right. So the first thing

918
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: about trash talking is, uh, I would I would actually

919
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: consider who was talking to trash and then if they

920
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: had the ability to back it up to whether I

921
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: was gonna actually engaged with somebody. But then you got there,

922
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: and y'all know this. You got the trash bag nigga

923
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: out here talking up nig then the way you shut

924
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: niggas up and you just ask something, I'm just going.

925
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: It seemed like if the trash talking get to a

926
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: point where I got you not talking no more, that's

927
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: the worst thing you can ever do. And trash talking

928
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: you have to continue. Told you waste to go in

929
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: trash talk matter what. And if you decide to continue

930
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: to trash talk and keep going, you gotta keep it up.

931
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: So the minute I not add you out and now

932
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: now you not no, you exhausted, You ain't got no more. Man,

933
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 2: get this self. This niggas's right, it's over. I gotta

934
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: step on you. And that's how it usually was. But

935
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: once I start seeing the trash talk affect people, it

936
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: was it was different for me from how I used it.

937
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: Was there someone that you loved, you knew that motherfucker

938
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: back it up talking to.

939
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: You, believe it or not, y'all. Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan,

940
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: shot to Timmy Tim Duncan. People would not see him

941
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: verbally seeing stuff because he wouldn't talk consentences, freeze tim

942
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: Timmy will hit you in phrases, got you groomed almost

943
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: just the worst right here, nice try like subtle shit,

944
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: no gage to ship, no real hard course shit, just

945
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: to subtlely to just back your ass up and put

946
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: you back in like this over here, like you know.

947
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: And then what really, what really, what really really really

948
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: pissed me off was when the trash tark wasn't affecting him.

949
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: So now you spending all this energy trying to rid

950
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: us up. You know, I forgot about your own game.

951
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: You forgot about they coming to you that you're supposed

952
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: to do. And then that's when I actually went quit

953
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: talking trash to timm because he wouldn't respond or he

954
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: wasn't giving me the reaction. That was, I can't get

955
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: really get hype off this thing ain't even giving me,

956
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: not even looking now, you know, starting you know, doing

957
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: a little you know, the shoulder ship, and he won't

958
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: react to that. And see, you know, Timmy got twenty

959
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen like up here, So then I started changing that,

960
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm so then it was now sometimes

961
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: you just you went to it. You know, two dogs

962
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: meet in the middle of and to be what it is.

963
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: So you know, I didn't understand that.

964
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 5: Sometimes with Tim, he used to come out of the

965
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 5: game me Pop just screaming and him cursing him out.

966
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down there and you letting this motherfucker talk

967
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: to you like this, You Tim Duncan, and he's saying nothing.

968
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 5: So when Pop come to me, I gotta be like,

969
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 5: what the fucking I say, Tim Duncan taking it? I

970
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: gotta take you gotta take it. But it made me

971
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 5: a better player, It made me coachable, you know what

972
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 5: I'm saying. But at first soon as Pop point, man,

973
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 5: you better get the fuck out of my face, you

974
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

975
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: But I see you going off on Tim, I gotta

976
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: be able to take it. I watched Gary Payton control

977
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: Karen Payden and Charge Barclay was two of the arguably

978
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: best trash talkers I ever experienced. I saw Gary Payton

979
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: control the referees, his coach, my coach, the crowd, the

980
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: lady in the front, the guy who was on the

981
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: side of the Minnesota games hitting the bucket. He was

982
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: controlling the whole game.

983
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: That's magical.

984
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: I watched GP back down the guard from baseline, the baseline,

985
00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: talking the whole time.

986
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 6: Shut your ass up, bow up, twist hey, get his

987
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 6: ass he here, Hey, come up.

988
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: Hey. You see the hand on the hill calling if

989
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: you see he just like finally him. I'm like managing

990
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: all this. He talking to me, he calling the play,

991
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: He throwing the boat like yo, and still scoring the balls,

992
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: stealing the ball, affected in the in the huddle. He

993
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: in the huddle, he got the thing, he drawing it up.

994
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo. GP to me was like masterful. Charles

995
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 2: Barkley was another level of trash talking because he would

996
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: end up fighting you for trying to fight you. But

997
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 2: he instilled fearing everybody on the court. Gary Payton actually

998
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: used it to get fouls, to get his teammates files,

999
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: to uh, get guys in and out like he was

1000
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: just he was just a control free you know. And

1001
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 2: if you went to a part of Gary, he was

1002
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: doing the same thing.

1003
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 6: What a drink set, y'all ain't drinking shots over the hill?

1004
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 6: Get them out of feet, man with them.

1005
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: This is GP. This is just GP. Year. Yeah I

1006
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: saw it, you know, so I guess that would kind

1007
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: of be my example of if the yeah GP was

1008
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: kind of my example of what I wanted to but

1009
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: I give Gary shout the GP map. We was in

1010
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: everybody's talking about the twenty anniversary events, winning the Dunk

1011
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 2: Contest in Oakland, right, But y'all don't know is that

1012
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant rest in peace to my dog. He took

1013
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: another level of being a defensive standpoint because Gary Payton,

1014
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: after practice after practice, all star practice, poured us to

1015
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: the side because Cold dashed him something. They pulled both

1016
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: of us to the side and said, let me tell

1017
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: y'all something. Look when you're playing defense, and then he

1018
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: went through a thirty minute joint with both of us

1019
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 2: on defense and keeping us between the leg and reaching

1020
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: and how to reach and when you reach up and

1021
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: just low tricks of the trade. That next time I

1022
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: saw Cold after the break he was using. It became

1023
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: first team that year. First time I seen him say

1024
00:47:50,360 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: he used that shit GPH, I thought that shit, but

1025
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: I knew that only the three of us was part

1026
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: of that, So I was like you saw, I thought

1027
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 2: it was gonna CALLI fight and caught as shit. Wow,

1028
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: Because GP taught us when you rip somebody to go

1029
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: through that chest us as usually your hand you see

1030
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: this right. He told us to take a step and

1031
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: come through your chest and come and then round out.

1032
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: There's no way you can protect the ball. You can't

1033
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: cross it back once you get in there, once I'm

1034
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: in your cab, you can't cross it up. You would

1035
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: even have to turn your back. Oh, man, I saw

1036
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: Coke take that first night after the break. I saw it.

1037
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: You know, we want no text or none of that

1038
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: back then. But when I first saw my shot there,

1039
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: it stayed it right here. When I saw him, he

1040
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: knew exactly what I was talking about. Student the GP

1041
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: for that you no doubt.

1042
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: So you experienced I mean, obviously Minnesota it was your

1043
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 4: first landing spot, and you experienced a lot of after

1044
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 4: you got going, a lot of personal success. But as

1045
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: a team, you guys weren't so as competitivis or as

1046
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: much as you wanted to win.

1047
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: How did that affect you?

1048
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 4: Because you're doing well, you're making all star teams, eventually

1049
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 4: winning the MVP, but your team is.

1050
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: Not moving the way you wanted to move.

1051
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: You know what, man, I I was? I was? I was.

1052
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 2: I was drowning in my own success, if you will,

1053
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: like once I started seeing like the owner that wasn't

1054
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: on the same pages as growing and making the team

1055
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: better like other teams. And then I got friends that

1056
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: were on other teams, and you know, teams were getting

1057
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: better and they going out trying to make doing all this,

1058
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: and I would always feel like I was in the

1059
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: same spot as last and that was frustrating. And then too,

1060
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't the most outspoken. I wasn't gonna I didn't

1061
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: see where coming out here talking about the owner of

1062
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: the team was going to actually give me some like

1063
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: it didn't work like that, And at the end of

1064
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: the day, you have to carry that out. When you

1065
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: do shit like that, and stuff like that in this

1066
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: league comes back on you because the owners talk and

1067
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: there's a buddy buddy system. And if you didn't, you know,

1068
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: watch Catherin's whole situation. That'll tell you that it's a

1069
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: it's a it's a good boys club, you know what

1070
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's definitely a billionaire's boys club. So

1071
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: I understood that right off. So I want to affect

1072
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: what I could do, and I would just focus on

1073
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: things that I can control, and when I had a

1074
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 2: chance to change that, I did. But you know, it

1075
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: was very frustrating putting everything into something and knowing that

1076
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: you need the other half to be able to complete

1077
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: these certain steps. So when I had a first off,

1078
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: you go into the playoffs, then you get put out

1079
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs eight straight times, it's like like here we

1080
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: go again, and it's almost like thinking like, okay, that

1081
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: next time. It's that next time. Then I actually get there,

1082
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: we get past it, we get there, and then now

1083
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like, Okay, got tasted, and now now I

1084
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: know what it takes. But you need these parts. And

1085
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: if throw nobody equip you to have these these parts, man, man,

1086
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: you can only control. So the Boston thing for me

1087
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: was it wasn't about anything else. I wanted to win

1088
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: in Minnesota and I want to be the first to

1089
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 2: I want to be the first to bring a championship

1090
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: to the city, but I need the other parts to it.

1091
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: And if Glenn wasn't gonna step up and do those things,

1092
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: then I have to actually make a career move. And

1093
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: I should have left a little earlier than I did,

1094
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: just because body wise and what I wanted to bring

1095
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: to it. Cause when you play at a certain level,

1096
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: your body is the one that takes the beating on it,

1097
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: and when I got the Boston all, I I felt

1098
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: like I was a uh well prepared, uh professional athlete

1099
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: that can articulate itself to the owner on what I

1100
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: expect out of this. So w me and we had

1101
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: girl spect got on the same lines for where me

1102
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: and Glenn Taylor disconnected. I got on the same page

1103
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: with him very early, and it wasn't cool, and there

1104
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: was some smoke involved, and we figured it out. But

1105
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 2: I wanted him to understand what I was as a man,

1106
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: and I ain't none of these peons that you used

1107
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: to in here. You gonna talk to me with some

1108
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: fucking respect, And I'm a man first, homie, and I

1109
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: stood on that. Give a fuck. I make bread too,

1110
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: I got a plane too. I do that too. So

1111
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: what you saying, right, they coming from the name on

1112
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: the back, not the name on the f not the

1113
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: name on the front. And that's how I shot at me.

1114
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: You know, we we got an understanding because of I

1115
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: guess his relations with Antwine and and Paul and him

1116
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 2: being comfortable. I didn't wanna make him comfortable. I ain't

1117
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: want him comfort with me, because when you're comfortable, you

1118
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: say anything. When you drunk or you feeling good. Nah,

1119
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: I want you to always be on be on line

1120
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: with me always, Hey, what's up? How you doing? Keep

1121
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: it moving. So when I came in, I came in

1122
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: that demeanor and it made the relationship a lot better

1123
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: because it was all about respect versus the intangibles and

1124
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: all the bullshit that comes sometimes getting in betweens that

1125
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: make things rough.

1126
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 3: Sometimes Summer of seven you end up going to Boston.

1127
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: But that was our we believe here.

1128
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: That's when we put a bunch of misfits together and

1129
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: did some crazy shit. The last half of the season

1130
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: made NBA history, beat the first first eight CV the

1131
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: number one. See Dirk was MVP that year. We busted

1132
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: the whole team's ass, beat him down to.

1133
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: The white meat. How did Dirk win MVP that year?

1134
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 2: You know, you know, like y'all don't notice, but the

1135
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: MVP up until Dirk, you had to get out of

1136
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: the first round to be able to be considered the MVP,

1137
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: or they would go ahead and give it to somebody else.

1138
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: This is when the Mark Cuban effect comes into play,

1139
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 2: right when your owner goes to your back about it

1140
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: and goes for your back and actually does his campaign

1141
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: on his behalf to his board of partners, and that

1142
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: had to go into play at some point because when

1143
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: you when y'all did that, that totally ripped the hole

1144
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: in the whole plan of whatever it was supposed to be.

1145
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: That was not supposed to happen. So now you got

1146
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: the whole thing on the backs of these misfits who

1147
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: coming in here doing something that they weren't supposed to

1148
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: what whoa, whoa what y'all not fuck the matrix up? Man?

1149
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: What are y'all doing? And then look who wonder what

1150
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: hot what? And messed it up? Y'all wasn't supposed to

1151
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 2: do that. And now the same the first thing I said,

1152
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 2: this man, how is this man winning the MVP? I'm

1153
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: gonna be quiet. When he was, he was washing him,

1154
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: bro I watched it. I was head on swivel when

1155
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: I was, And before you know it, you had the

1156
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: whole NBA just riding with y'all. So that that shit

1157
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: was gorgeo.

1158
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: Because Nelly helped build that team, and Nelly was the

1159
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 4: first one to put me and Jack on dirt, so

1160
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 4: we put smaller, stronger people in there.

1161
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: Every time he turned, he was.

1162
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: On his ass. He knew it and just bullied the

1163
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: early Dirk did not want to know he was. He

1164
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: was very fragile. He listen. I say two things about

1165
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: Dirk pargasol and y'all mean, they adjusted so fast. I

1166
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: saw Jan Browley punk y'all mean in preseason, and I

1167
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: don't know what Steve Francis said that, y'all mean. But

1168
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: the next night I saw him. You know what I mean,

1169
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: He was dunking them one boy and dropped stepping in

1170
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: And that was the y'all mean I had known to.

1171
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: Dirk did the same thing. First time I played Dirk.

1172
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: I got a sense of fear from him. So I

1173
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: played it that I was dunking out raw And you know,

1174
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: Dallas got these mics in the rioms. So when you

1175
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: sound like you going in there, oh man, great atmosphere

1176
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: to player, right, that's great atmosphere. Shot the Mark Cuban too, man,

1177
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: because he changed a lot of coach in the NBA, y'all.

1178
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know, man. He started feeding

1179
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: players way before any of this. He started feeding both

1180
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: sides of like competition and his own players. Like when

1181
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: you after the after the game, yard, do you know

1182
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 2: I had to either have the ball boys run across

1183
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: the street and grab some taco bell or some fucking

1184
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: McDonald's or something upstairs in the concord to be able

1185
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: to have food. Or then I'm eighteen nineteen. I can't

1186
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: get in no strip clar I can't get in nothing

1187
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: after the Oh no, young fella, you can't come in here.

1188
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: And uh we ain't in serving dreams too, Yeah you gotta.

1189
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: It was always like I had to go through the

1190
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 2: back door some dog like being young in the league

1191
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 2: or no. It was a whole nother. But Mark Cuban

1192
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: started providing real meals. I'm talking about like barbecue, like

1193
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: cramwall like you got god damn greens College's two different menues,

1194
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: chicken fry this day, fight.

1195
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 3: That mother barba.

1196
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: You know what I did, dog, I used to make

1197
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 2: my food and walk all the way around and thank

1198
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: him because just to shit out there, I say, mister

1199
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban, thank you for the food.

1200
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 5: Man.

1201
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Now the food is like a customary thing.

1202
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 2: Now you gotta have it in the league. But he

1203
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: started that.

1204
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 5: Mark Cuban started all that. You were also one of

1205
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 5: the leaders too. If you look at his organization, the

1206
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 5: people be hired. He got a lot of players that

1207
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 5: played for him working for him.

1208
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: Now, right, and that Mark Cuban.

1209
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, all these teams, a lot of teams that got

1210
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 5: ex players that want jobs, that want to work with

1211
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 5: the teams they played for. Look at Mark Cuban co

1212
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 5: from coaching rotters to work it to Mike Finler working

1213
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 5: in the office.

1214
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of his players. You got to

1215
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: get them credit for that. Listen, man, I'm banking that

1216
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: at some point Dirk's gonna buy into the team and

1217
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: he's going to probably well, no question, I mean, it's

1218
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: only right. I was rested piece of my dog. I

1219
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: was waiting on cold to do the same thing. Though,

1220
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: real talk, you know, I tell p all the time

1221
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: you was with Boston, you should be able to have

1222
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 2: the ability. I think that if you put enough blud

1223
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: sweating TIS and these older organizations, you should have at

1224
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: least the option to be able to buy into or

1225
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: be able to have a piece of the hell you

1226
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: have building. And then that's not given. You earned that

1227
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: earned that. I got the Minnesota man. That ship was

1228
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 2: like worth eighty nine million a summer. He paid a

1229
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: couple of joints. Man, we got in ten years in

1230
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: that that ship was almost at a billion.

1231
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 5: Man.

1232
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: You know, like you don't get none of that. You know,

1233
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: you don't get none of that, that appreciation for that,

1234
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: but you know that culture and then what people know

1235
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: and why they're coming to the games. You built all

1236
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: that and sweat blood and equity, and you don't get

1237
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: a choice of being that. That has to change at

1238
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: some point. I love it.

1239
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 4: So, like I said, we did that, and we did

1240
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: that No. Seven and then we heard rumors. I don't

1241
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: know if if you even even heard the ship, but

1242
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 4: we it was word that we were going after you

1243
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: for a whole package and you were supposed to come

1244
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: complete us as our centerpiece to our crazy Yeah.

1245
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: I heard about y'all. Man, this so we've been We've

1246
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: been talking about this for years.

1247
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: We spoke on this all the time.

1248
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: Heard it like when we heard on the team.

1249
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 5: Was Chipping sending anybody then KG sitting the whole team

1250
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 5: to coach anybody we need KG.

1251
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 2: Listen, I never know you knew about it. I looked

1252
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: at it like this. I was like, man, I got

1253
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: one chance at this, right I had I had Uh,

1254
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: I had Oakland, I had Phoenix, I had the Lakers

1255
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: and I had the Celtics, and uh, I'm just being

1256
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: honest with everybody. I wanted to link with Cold because

1257
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: Covid and I had like a listen to me, Covid

1258
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: and I had like a different, a different connect. Like

1259
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: when Covid Shaq went went went on their little thing,

1260
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: A lot of people went with Shack. A lot of

1261
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: people didn't even fuck with Cold, you know, Cold whatever.

1262
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to want the very few that just stayed

1263
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: with him, and just see I was a neutral guy anyway.

1264
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: I show everybody love you Cold love dog, but Cold

1265
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: respect dogs like like like real like real cat start.

1266
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: If you ever noticed, he never really got into it

1267
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 2: with somebody that he really respected, you know what I'm saying.

1268
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: Like I watched when you and him went out and

1269
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: you threw the ball, he flinched. It was a form

1270
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: of respect there that he was. They was talking. Nobody noticed,

1271
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: but they was talking Simon thaneous like Nike, I wish

1272
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: you would hit me with this ball. You got more

1273
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: respect than me than that. So him and Matt was

1274
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: I already knew that. But players know this, and then

1275
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: you already know who I'm if we get into it

1276
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: and we get to tech, it's verbal and we bumping.

1277
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: We bumping. I'm already knowing what he's saying to me

1278
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: without even talking. So that's how we used to ship

1279
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: real shit, like not even thinking. That's how players actually

1280
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: was talking to dealing with each other. So whenever I

1281
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: would watch him get into it with somebody and he

1282
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: actually would get into it, it was either because he

1283
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: didn't respect them and it went like that, or he

1284
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: respect him and then went a whole other way.

1285
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't know. That's how. Like when we got

1286
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: into it in twenty ten, the.

1287
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: Ball faked shit like he was the first person to

1288
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 4: call me free agency, like, Yo, you want to come

1289
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 4: be your laker?

1290
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: Anyone crazy enough to fuck with me?

1291
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy?

1292
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: And he went and got Ron the year before when

1293
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: Ron was in Houston.

1294
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm tired of wrestling with you crazy motherfuckers,

1295
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 4: come fuck with me.

1296
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: Well, I tried to link with him and I couldn't

1297
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: get him on the line, and people was like, yo, man, shit,

1298
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: manlet's donna do shit. You know a picture? Oh yeah,

1299
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And Chauncey and Tlou we

1300
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: used to all work out together in LA, and we

1301
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: was all together in Minnesota. When they say that you

1302
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: can go talk to people, that's when they're done with you.

1303
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: You permission to go talk to other teams. And when

1304
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: they give you permission to entertain mother other options, they

1305
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: over you. They moved on. So y'all don't know, yo,

1306
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: I get up at like four thirty. You know why

1307
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: I get up at four thirty Cause I live in LA.

1308
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: And it's a cat in New York getting up at seven.

1309
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: He up already working already. Actually, if he got up

1310
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: at six, I'm an hour and thirty behind this cat.

1311
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: So I used to think, like this ami in New York,

1312
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: it's some cats on the East Coast, they already working

1313
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Damn, I'm late. So I used to hit

1314
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: the beast like four thirty. And then I used to

1315
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: you know, I used to go through all of us

1316
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: with the workout and then the gym, and then I'm

1317
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: done by like twelve, right, And then I used to think, like, damn, y'all,

1318
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: they don't even respect that nigga get up and through

1319
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: this every day like this, then they gonna let me do.

1320
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: So I started losing appreciation for them appreciating me. I

1321
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, somewhere somebody else gonna show

1322
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: you some love, you know, or show you hope. So

1323
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: and then I sat with Chancey them cause they used

1324
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: to meet me in the workout in the middle of

1325
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: the workout when we went to the gym, and they

1326
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: was like Chances like, Dad, you gotta get off that shit.

1327
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: Him and t Lou was just sawing me like, yo,

1328
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: you gotta this your chance to go get with somebody,

1329
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: and you can give me somebody real you can man

1330
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: that same shit you doing. And Soda boy, you gonna

1331
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: put there with somebody else. Boy, you you know what

1332
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I was like, shou, I shot at

1333
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: kod He even really picked the line up, you know

1334
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So tlew and cold close. So he

1335
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: was like shoot at him again, see what he owns.

1336
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: So I shot it. He ain't hit back. So I

1337
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: had to make a decision coming down. And then you know,

1338
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: I'm making decisions by my selfish shit. So this is

1339
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: the first time I got to I'm talking to my

1340
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: my wife at the time, and I'm like asking her

1341
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: like and She's like, go with your gut. So I

1342
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: was like, shit, Danny Ainge's flew in and he just

1343
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: got right to it and showed the vision and the

1344
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 2: vision he was saying, you better have somebody talk to you.

1345
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: And as they talk to you, you can see what

1346
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: they're saying so much that you're not even looking at

1347
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: them no more. But you see, that's how he was painting,

1348
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: and he was ra Picasso. And this is Danny Inge's

1349
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: greatness in him being able to lure you in his

1350
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: charming ass. You know what I'm saying. I didn't even

1351
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: know he was finessing me and were do you know

1352
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, sauted like

1353
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: a mother for the right. But then what I did

1354
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: know I had watched him a couple of times and

1355
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: when I first off film of Rondo in Massive Square Guard,

1356
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: he got the crazy clip of he scored the ball.

1357
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: I think he stole it and didn't get an N

1358
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: one and something. So I saw that, but I thought

1359
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: his name, my a d d Ass thought he was

1360
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 2: African and some ship. So I was like, yeah, what's

1361
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: up with the little African guards? I'm talking about Sebastian. Nah,

1362
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: I know Sebastian. I'm talking about the little the the

1363
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: little African niggas, So you like African. I was like yeah,

1364
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: uh you know June or something. He was like like,

1365
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: you're talking about race John, You're talking about Rondo. Like yeah, Rono,

1366
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: you gotta keep you gotta keep the African kid. Yo.

1367
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: If I come to the Boston, you gotta keep the

1368
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: African kid because he was in the package. I was like,

1369
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: it's like, uh uh, I think he's gonna no, we

1370
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 2: can't do it then. And then I actually called Steve

1371
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: Nash just to the courtesy and the the the U

1372
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: I guess the car. He hit me back, was like, yo,

1373
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: if you come down here, we need you to take

1374
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: a major pay cut.

1375
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 4: Mm.

1376
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, uh if I come down there,

1377
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: I'm playing with you. I'm playing with you and us

1378
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: uh Mari right said yeah, I think they gonna give

1379
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: a Mari up for you and sh and and and Sean.

1380
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: And I said, so hold on me.

1381
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 3: This me and you.

1382
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: It's like yeah. I was like, so I gotta pake

1383
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: a pay cut and then I gotta get back in

1384
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: this position. And we in the west two y'ard so

1385
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: this ain't you know. I'm sitting here like man, so

1386
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: little yeah, alright, let me do wanna man, let me

1387
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: think about all this shit like sh sh, you know

1388
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I just sat on it. It's

1389
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: like now I'm I'm going to Beantown. Plus it's the

1390
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 2: East Coast. I ain't never playing the East Coast. So

1391
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 2: he ain't give us a thumb. I when I looked

1392
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 2: at all my options, we was at the Boospec respectful,

1393
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because I was seeing how

1394
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: y'all was. But I needed I needed a superstar in

1395
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: that whole mix. Always you always like some bandits, You

1396
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: always like they always like the little the little rats

1397
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: on City of God running around stealing shot. You know

1398
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You have to respect them little niggas.

1399
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, the rats, y'all, y'all know

1400
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 2: City of God rat the little niggas, and that they are. Man,

1401
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: they was little hood looms. They ran the street. That's

1402
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 2: how y'all was. Joe's like, oh man, they switch everything.

1403
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: They got this on orthodox. You're thinking, Steven here balowitchis

1404
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 2: stopping hitting the three, now get up. He ain't dunking

1405
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 2: that like it was just so unorthodox. At the time

1406
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: that y'all had had the whole league like off the

1407
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: square like and then it's like they look like they

1408
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: just having fun. I can't come over there with my

1409
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: serious as everything. You know what I'm I'm just looking

1410
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: at it like I want to play against me, you

1411
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: know what.

1412
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 5: I'm on the inside were looking at it like, boy,

1413
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 5: we imagine KG with pace beaches with KG. It's a difference, wow,

1414
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 5: with all us on the outside actually having somebody thought

1415
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 5: it because you know, Al.

1416
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: Had to go out, y'all mean s and then y'all

1417
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: don't know, man I was, But when y'all mean turn

1418
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: it's really nothing nobody can do. Y'all like like y'all's

1419
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: jump shots like all the way up here, like you

1420
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: like on the turnaround, You're like, man, do what I'm doing.

1421
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 5: You have two days off after we played, y'all get it.

1422
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 5: And you know what Al used to actually keep him

1423
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 5: out the paint.

1424
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: If you do if you do your work early, and

1425
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: that's the that's the kind of the lingo and where

1426
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 2: you don't let him come down and sit on the blocks.

1427
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: Y'all mean, can damn it be at the three point

1428
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: line and do the same turnaround and hit it like

1429
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: it was nothing. Y'all's touch a man A shot that

1430
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: y'all mean man, that would be another y'all mean like

1431
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: that man he was. He was specially straight up. But

1432
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: I ended up doing the Boston thing. And then on

1433
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: Draft night they got Ray and uh it made the

1434
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: whole deal a lot sweeter, and we was we was

1435
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: going after that bro. I knew we was going to

1436
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: no bullshit. I knew he was gonna win that ship.

1437
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: The first time I we stepped into like the first

1438
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: like you know how like September coming you all work

1439
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: out together, and I saw how the how that ship was.

1440
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: I had never been in like our first workout with

1441
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: guys I had never played with and it was just

1442
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: it was just, it was just it was just. And

1443
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: then the guys we was playing against the change posey

1444
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: fucking like we were just playing a bunch of the

1445
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: next Eddie House, a bunch of just Tony Allen Man

1446
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: go get us, big Perk, Leon Poe by in here.

1447
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: Nate won there yet next year, just the first year

1448
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: we was all together, and it.

1449
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 3: Was just.

1450
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: I heard Folk come in. I heard Folk tell the

1451
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: story about when we first played you know what, I'm

1452
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: saying like it was. But the synergy was that day one.

1453
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew we had a chance to get

1454
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: somewhere that we was not normal from when I doing this.

1455
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: This wasn't normal. This was above average right here. This

1456
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 2: is what I was looking for.

1457
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 4: So you guys kind of started, I mean through a

1458
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 4: different process. But the big three, you mean, Y, Paul, yourself,

1459
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 4: you get Ray, Draft Knight, mm and the synergies instant.

1460
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, the synergy's instant. You know, the synergy

1461
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 3: is yeah.

1462
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: I guess where you put it like that? Yeah, it

1463
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: in advertently and it virt We wasn't like mapping it

1464
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: out like that. I think Ray was trying to come

1465
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: back east too, uh because of his uh you know,

1466
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: he had foundings in Connecticut and uh family that was

1467
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: you know in that area or whatever. So he was

1468
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: just trying to come back and trans transition and kind

1469
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: of let that be like the tell end and be

1470
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: on their side. So I think it was all just

1471
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: synergy with him and then it just all came together.

1472
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 2: It helped that Paul and I was friends. I knew Ray,

1473
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: uh and and I we were friends, uh, but we

1474
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: didn't know none of the younger guys. Ta was a

1475
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: younger version of Chicago. When I was in Chicago, Leon Poe,

1476
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: they was all younger versions. Big Baby he was all

1477
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: younger versions. I had new Perk Hat plays against Perk

1478
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: Perk and I used to play like we used to bang.

1479
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: I mean, like really have issues with each other, to

1480
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: where I had to ask people like, Yo, you know

1481
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: we're coming over there, Perk gonna be okay, because man,

1482
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 2: you don't know, like when we go at it, we

1483
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: really about to fight. He'd be like, you know how

1484
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: like if one person like going years over bail, you

1485
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 2: know one gonna wait, you know that's come down like that.

1486
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, Yo, why this little hogh haired

1487
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 2: nigga like gobba jass nigga coming out here like coolig

1488
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: you trash nig I'm not gonna interact with you nigga,

1489
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: Like who is this? Not knowing that he's coming out

1490
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 2: of high school, he's looking up to me, he trying

1491
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: to he's trying to you know, we're trying to trying

1492
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: to raise this ship. I raised him. But I'm like

1493
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: that you don't who is nigga?

1494
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: Who?

1495
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: Kendrick who? Nobody? Nigga? Nobody I gave him twelve, like

1496
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: real quick, I better get this nobody off me out here.

1497
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: Who you think I ain't no nobody you.

1498
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 5: Want?

1499
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, saying nigga, what you're saying, Speak up, nigga,

1500
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: bet my head, buddy, speak up, nigga. You ain't talking

1501
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: loud enough, nigga. We both got texts, you know what

1502
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I'm but I'm going t t on

1503
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: that team. They bunch of young cats, our jeffinit So

1504
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 2: I'm in here, golden and they ship throwing it. Please

1505
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: know that ship out of here. Mind. You know what

1506
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's messing with him saying what you know

1507
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 2: what they you know he was so they you know,

1508
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: as we say, see if he gonna scratch. Yeah, they

1509
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: scratched it. Okay. Yeah, I like these young cats. I

1510
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 2: knew what I had with that, you know what I'm saying,

1511
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: because there was a whole bunch of young guys coming

1512
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: up in the league that we was needing to have

1513
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: some young guys that kind of you know, met that too,

1514
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: so it was good.

1515
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 4: Tell me what it was like getting a chance to

1516
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 4: play with Paul Pierce because to me, he's one of

1517
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 4: the most underrated most stores, clutch motherfuckers in the history

1518
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 4: the gas footwork all time.

1519
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: Listen man, Me and P played together very young in life.

1520
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: And uh, if anybody know PEP is very similar to

1521
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: like a stepf or like an AI. When I interact

1522
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: with like A, I would say a bigger ego than mine. Uh,

1523
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: I played a second And if anybody know me, know

1524
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: that I'm a very confident person, very sure person, and

1525
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: I can play the side. I'm never gonna play the front.

1526
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: If it's a side door, I'm off to the side.

1527
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm more of a shadow person. My nigga Pee is

1528
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: totally opposite of Now you want to come through the

1529
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: front door, won't there? Ignoring him trove he gonna you know,

1530
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: he's swagged. Yeah, So with that, he was always able

1531
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: to back that up from when we was talking trash

1532
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: and when we got into whatever. It wasn't something that

1533
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 2: he couldn't get himself out of. But that's how he operated.

1534
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: He needed that that extra whatever that owned for that

1535
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: or that swag to get him to perpetuate. And uh,

1536
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: I saw him in some of the most critical moments

1537
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: be very calm and very even played and even killed

1538
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 2: to where he was so sure of himself to where

1539
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: he took big shots and he hit him. My favor

1540
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: my favorite p joint is him and Al Harrington. People

1541
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: don't know that these two are really good friends, and

1542
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: we're all really good friends, and these are two monsters.

1543
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 2: If anybody know, al Ay backing down from nothing. You

1544
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, al Ain't going nowhere, y'all

1545
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: think Jack, like imagine Jack, Well, no, I can't say

1546
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 2: that were another two hundred pounds, but Alis just right there,

1547
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: Jack like the meadoworld, p Jack, you getting the same,

1548
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: You better come with a hard hat. And when he

1549
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: was talking to that shit, I'm gonna hit you in

1550
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 2: the here, right here, I'm letting you know, let you

1551
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: know right now, well let me see it then let

1552
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: me see Okay, you want to see it? And I

1553
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: was like, oh and when p hits like straight, that's

1554
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: one of my favorite basketball moments just because both of

1555
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: those guys are my friends. But I was able to

1556
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: take something from Paul that some of that even killed,

1557
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 2: some of that calmness, some of that that laser like

1558
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: you know, you think you're focused until you see somebody else,

1559
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: do there or go through there? Whatevers. And I was

1560
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: able to, you know, take some of that commonness and

1561
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 2: incorporate it into some of my own games to where

1562
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: I thought it made me a better player. But T

1563
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 2: is probably one of the most underrated players of all

1564
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 2: times that we that we have in our history that

1565
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 2: don't get enough slack for, don't get enough of recognition.

1566
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 4: In my tape, you were able to help bring back

1567
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 4: the Celtics Laker rivalry. You guys met in the finals.

1568
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 4: You guys got one, they got one. Tell me what

1569
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,480
Speaker 4: it was like going against Shaq and Kobe with your squad.

1570
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: Before I got to Boston. Now would battle the Lakers.

1571
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: It was always the premier game. It was nothing less.

1572
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: Playing Shack was always entertaining, It was always hierarchy was

1573
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: always it was always the pinnacle. Cope and I knew

1574
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: each other. Shaq and I would befriend each other and

1575
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: become friends later, but the match ups was always higher

1576
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: and there was always electric I was always felt like

1577
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: I was under man so when I had perk, who

1578
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: would who battle? Who would battle anybody? And don't care

1579
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: about anything? Right, Shaq was in Cleveland as we was

1580
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: making our runs and stuff, so I felt like this

1581
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: is a great time to have redemption on that whole

1582
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 2: COVID shack thing in the West. I felt like this

1583
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 2: was redemption and now you know, they was kind of separated,

1584
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: so that when I when I actually went up against

1585
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: both of those guys, it felt like a payback for me.

1586
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: But that ship won less than one, less than magical,

1587
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: like epic, like not a lot of shit talking out here,

1588
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: but it's a lot of buckets. It's a lot of

1589
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: a lot of tapping, it's a lot of you know,

1590
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: it's a lot you better get over here, like you

1591
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and and there's a bunch of it. Nah,

1592
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: I ain't no switching. And it was win both ways.

1593
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: Even though the big fellow was big and he knew

1594
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: he was a house I told him. He came out

1595
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 2: to Cleveland and then doctors like, yo, I need you

1596
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: to guard Shock. For like two minutes. I was like,

1597
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: holy shit, guarden shack is like holding up the side

1598
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 2: of a house shaw. I was trying to see a

1599
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: wall in here, see a fist of wall. I can't

1600
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: even describe it. But I played Shock for two minutes

1601
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: and couldn't give nobody no high five. I was just

1602
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 2: like the arms was so tired, y'all. I couldn't. I

1603
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: couldn't Like if you slapped me, I would have to

1604
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: be like you know what I'm saying. I couldn't even go.

1605
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 2: I couldn't even protect myself. But playing those two brought

1606
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: the best out of you every time you played them.

1607
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 2: Every time you played COVID was nothing shy or nothing,

1608
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: nothing less than the electric and it was all about

1609
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: uh winds. It was all about wins and rings. And

1610
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: when I got the Boston it was just it was

1611
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 2: just just different times. But I've always enjoyed playing against

1612
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: those guys. There was always a challenge to play those guys,

1613
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: and it was always hard to get a win on them.

1614
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying straight up?

1615
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 4: So a Hall of Fame career, I mean, you'll go

1616
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 4: inducted at twenty twenty. I mean, tell me what that

1617
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 4: kid from South Carolina that came up the way you

1618
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 4: came up Mom's working graveyard, You having to do what

1619
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 4: you have to do to everythink that twenty five years

1620
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 4: later you could be abducting to the Hall of Fame.

1621
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 3: Tell me what that feels like.

1622
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: I never thought that. I never really I never really

1623
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 2: cite my I really never put that on the goal,

1624
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: never put that on the paper. It was all about

1625
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: busting these guys asked right here and crossing their name out.

1626
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: It was always about being the best in this right

1627
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: here and putting your name at the top and that

1628
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: and that, and that was it. I never really imagine

1629
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: taking this and being global. I never had a vision

1630
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: of that. I just wanted to be able to have

1631
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 2: a list of motherfuckers that you thought was better than me,

1632
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: and I wanted to bust all they ass And that

1633
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: was it.

1634
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 4: Cob had a kill list too. We talked, we got

1635
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 4: kill You need a little kill list. What you're doing,

1636
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 4: You ain't got no vision who you chasing, who you being?

1637
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 4: Who the king in the mountain?

1638
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: Like, right, that's what That's what competition is, Joe. It's

1639
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: about who's on king in the mountain, who's on top,

1640
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: and how and how you can take him off that

1641
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 2: or her, you know what I'm saying, like straight up.

1642
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: And then that's polishing your tools and at the same

1643
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: time pushing it. You know, you gotta push this line

1644
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: of creativity, gotta push the lines of competition, gotta push

1645
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: this line of originality. You know, like for me that

1646
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: that's everything.

1647
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: Jack and I are someone who we've talked about this

1648
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 4: with other guests, you know, guys that used cannabis throughout

1649
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 4: our career because we felt like it helped us sleep,

1650
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 4: pain folks, whatever.

1651
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1652
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 4: What do you think, how with the narrative finally shifting

1653
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 4: about cannabis, what about you your thoughts about cannabis and sports?

1654
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 2: I think education, man, I think when it comes to cannabis,

1655
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: people have to understand that uh. I think they see

1656
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: cannabis in their recreational use, and educational has to come

1657
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: out about the about the uh, the healing parts of them,

1658
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 2: the benefits of it. I think I think as a

1659
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 2: so society meaning that it's some more older or more

1660
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: older society thinking of the ways of recreations to more

1661
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: millennials and younger kids, is really exposing and giving this

1662
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: education to the benefits. And I think our society is changing,

1663
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: and I think everybody's starting to see the more and

1664
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: poorly the benefits. I think the sooners they get CBDs

1665
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 2: into sports, I think we'll start to see a bigger change.

1666
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: You know, you guys don't know that we probably take

1667
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: about sixty seven pills a night before we play no clue.

1668
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 2: And that's just to be able to step on the court.

1669
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: You got innocent, you got vijaks, you got too taller

1670
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: and oil, you got two avias. The kidney is over

1671
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: supposed to be able to process for so much. If

1672
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: we're not hydrating and bringing liquids and fluids and draining

1673
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: that your liver is catching all that, your kidneys are

1674
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: catching all that, man, Believe it or not, it makes

1675
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: a difference. It makes a difference in joint pain to

1676
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 2: be able to sit a pill, just how we sit.

1677
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: If your shit is hurting, hey, motherfuck out them and

1678
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: listen and shit is popping, and shit is moving, and

1679
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: get out. This seat is an issue. And you never

1680
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 2: think about that ship as you're putting it in and

1681
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 2: as you're going you just think about, you know, short

1682
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: term solutions. Cannapis has brought some of those solutions to

1683
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: to date to where they're more beneficial for the organs

1684
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: and for your every day believe it or not, you know,

1685
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: I always say to who's his own, use his own,

1686
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: Just be respectful and responsible with it.

1687
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 4: Home stretch right here, your top five team without yourself,

1688
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 4: who's your top who's your starting five minus yourself.

1689
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go magic Cole Jordan's Wilton shot, going really big,

1690
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 2: really firm. I want to be to switch. I want

1691
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: to be to switch one through three, Funnel everything to

1692
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 2: the middle, big fella. Lay everybody out on my bench.

1693
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: I got, yeah, I got, I got, I know, I

1694
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 2: got Russell, and I got Russell on my bench because

1695
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: he gonna come in and bring a whole nother pain.

1696
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: I got Aljah on at my four. I gotta put

1697
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: Jamal Mashburn because he's one of my favorite players. Three

1698
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm gonna put Steph in the yard my

1699
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: one and two just because I love you. Man A

1700
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: probably an other superstar who doesn't really get a lot

1701
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: of recognition off of I was a goddamn beyond a superstar.

1702
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: He was a he was a culturally superstar. He was

1703
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: he wasn't afraid of anything. Anything he was he was.

1704
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 2: He was really the example of small ball and really

1705
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: taking it to another level. Hey, y'all, dude, I called

1706
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 2: him a easy because he make everything look easy and

1707
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: shout the AI man and everything he did.

1708
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, real ship, Seeing that we're

1709
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 4: here at all Star, what is what is your favorite

1710
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 4: All Star moment?

1711
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 2: Favorite All Star moment events sitting on the floor, believe

1712
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 2: it or not, I got that footage to y'all know, yeah, no,

1713
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: no it come see me, motherfuckers think y'all getting this

1714
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 2: ship for free. Y'all kissed my eyes right, going that

1715
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: ink hollow right, But I got that. That was probably

1716
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: one of my favorite because all my friends was probably

1717
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: two couple of rolls and we got to see that,

1718
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 2: and it was the first time the world got to

1719
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: really see Vince like we knew Vin's in high school,

1720
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 2: grew up with Da Da YadA, and for him to

1721
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: like put that on display like that and just give

1722
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:14,759
Speaker 2: us an unbelievable A lot of people don't know Tracy

1723
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 2: and Steve too. Stacy and Stevens on that too, you

1724
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That was one of the better

1725
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 2: before Zach and Gordon. Uh, that was probably my favorite.

1726
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: That was probably my favorite. Uh dounk I tell some time.

1727
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: But out of all the stuff men I've I've always

1728
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: been able to pull some out of each All Star Game,

1729
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 2: one of my favorites was coming out. I was getting

1730
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: ready to I was leaving the All Star Game and

1731
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 2: I had a bag of stuff and I was coming

1732
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: out and Craig Sager needed an interview for his clothes

1733
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: out and I didn't want to do it, and I

1734
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: was trying to, you know, we didn't hit back. Look

1735
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 2: like you know, like you know how you play shadow,

1736
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 2: You're trying to get by somebody. I'm like, trade what

1737
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: you're doing. I gotta catch my plane, get the fuck

1738
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: out of here, YadA, YadA. So my assistant shout the bill.

1739
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: I call him shitty. I threw shitty the bag and said, yo,

1740
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 2: shitt he takes this to the planet and trying to

1741
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: get out, and he said, yo, just give me two seconds.

1742
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: I need an hour. I said, get the funk out

1743
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: of my way. And I kind of pushed him, you know,

1744
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: I kind of gave him some whatever. And he was like, man,

1745
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 2: I saw how he look. I said, come on, man,

1746
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 2: fuck it, come on, and he and and I was,

1747
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say whatever I want to say. Okay,

1748
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: just give me this. I just need thirty seconds to

1749
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: get out of here. Okay, okay, okay, and go. And

1750
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: then I saw what he had on. I looked and

1751
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 2: I said, hold on, hold on. So look, you know,

1752
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 2: I never try to go at you right, like what

1753
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: the fuck? Like really, what the fuck is this dog?

1754
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: Like really you came to the game like this dog

1755
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: and he was trying to get an interview. I was like, Noah,

1756
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: funck all that lo no burn all this ship, everything

1757
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: the green throw to all this and all of it, yo,

1758
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: and kind of gave him a little sound aboute and

1759
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: see it what up and then got out of there

1760
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: and I turned around and I was like, gave shot

1761
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 2: your thanks, but yeah, like this, shout the crag ya and.

1762
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 5: We know, I know we normally end the show y'all

1763
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 5: with a with a begging segment, but before I do

1764
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 5: my begging segment, I want to.

1765
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: We have some stuff for you. We have some all

1766
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 2: the smoke giar for you. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

1767
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: So some of them that bongs pre rolls in that moll.

1768
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: Don't cut me short now right, shout to the goat

1769
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: as we're giving you your all the smoke gears past

1770
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 2: my brother you the first one. But this is what

1771
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 2: we do need though. This is this is Jersey. You

1772
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: need house.

1773
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 5: I don't care what team it is. You gotta pick

1774
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 5: a team. I don't I don't care what team it is. Okay,

1775
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 5: you were great your whole career to be all right,

1776
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 5: I got you. That's all I need.

1777
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 3: Man, that's a rap.

1778
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: Man. We just really than your Chicago first live show,

1779
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: real ship. It was live, but c K two y'all.

1780
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 4: I think obviously in the tragedy of cold rest in peace.

1781
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 4: We want to give you your flowers while you're here. Man,

1782
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 4: We appreciate everything you did for the game, your greatness,

1783
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 4: the way you've passed it to this next generation, and

1784
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 4: just fucking be you.

1785
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: Man.

1786
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: We respect the ship. Have you for that, man, Thank you,

1787
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 3: thank you, no doubt y'all. Man, goodloveciate you back for

1788
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 3: you having y'all seen.

1789
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, thanks ship, said Kate Gisel.

1790
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 3: That's a rap with smoking in the back. Come sucking

1791
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 3: with us.

1792
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 2: N I gotta light, I gotta fe mm hmm mm hmm.

1793
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 5: Mmm mm hmmm.

1794
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm

1795
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: Mm hmm