Speaker 1: To all of our listeners. I'd like to hear from you.
Speaker 1: Do you have a question? Only I can answer something
Speaker 1: you've always wanted to ask me. Send questions to me
Speaker 1: at TikTok Instagram or at asked Martha at Martha Stewart
Speaker 1: dot com. I know, I don't know how many people
Speaker 1: actually interview their fan base groundbreaking yea, So it's very
Speaker 1: heartwarming to me, so I will begin. Over the years,
Speaker 1: my colleagues and I have worked tirelessly to teach, to inform,
Speaker 1: to delight, and to inspire throughout the process of building
Speaker 1: an iconic and groundbreaking brand. I am lucky to have
Speaker 1: built a following. Some fans are casual observers, and some
Speaker 1: fans become very devout followers. Three of my most devoted
Speaker 1: fans are Andrew Ritchie, Bernie Wong, and Dennis Landon. Andrew
Speaker 1: as the creator of the Martha Moments blog, which is
Speaker 1: a wonderful resource for all things Martha. Bernie manages an
Speaker 1: Instagram account that features food, gardening, and my many products.
Speaker 1: Dennis is equally enthusiastic about the Martha brand and has
Speaker 1: been a big supporter of me for years. We all
Speaker 1: met last year when these three traveled all the way
Speaker 1: to New York to shop at my Great American Tag Sale,
Speaker 1: and today I thought it would be informative and fun
Speaker 1: to get together via video to find out why the
Speaker 1: Martha brand attracted them so much. Welcome to my podcast, Andrew, Bernie,
Speaker 1: and Dennis. It's very nice to see you via via zoom. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: but but you look good. You look the same as
Speaker 1: you looked at the tag sail and uh and that was.
Speaker 1: I think I'm still recovering from the tag sail. That was.
Speaker 1: That was a very big effort on a lot of
Speaker 1: people's parts. But boy, I think I think I expended
Speaker 1: the most energy, just because gathering all that stuff from
Speaker 1: all the different places that it came from was exhausting.
Speaker 1: But to have people like you they're talking to the
Speaker 1: rest of the buyers was so so fabulous And I
Speaker 1: cannot tell you how much it meant to them to
Speaker 1: have you there also. Now, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if very many podcasters actually have interviewed their fan base.
Speaker 1: But here we go. We're talking to We're talking to
Speaker 1: three guys. You know, these are men, They're not women fans.
Speaker 1: These are men fans who have kind of adopted the
Speaker 1: Martha brand as something to focus on and uh, and
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's quite astonishing to me that this has happened. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, I I know I have
Speaker 1: friends and I consider you my friends. But it's hard
Speaker 1: sometimes for a human being to think, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I have a fan base, and that's how I feel.
Speaker 1: I feel, Oh my gosh, it's uh, it's uh. And
Speaker 1: when people say, oh, don't you get tired of people
Speaker 1: asking for your autograph? I always say absolutely not, because
Speaker 1: if they don't ask for my autograph, maybe they're they're
Speaker 1: already forgetting me. But uh, but I think we've made
Speaker 1: an impact. And I think that you guys, with your wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful outpouring of information all things Martha, have really helped
Speaker 1: support that that work that we have done over the
Speaker 1: last thirty years as the Martha Stewart Living brand. So
Speaker 1: thank you. I want to thank you. When when were
Speaker 1: you first introduced to the Martha brand. Let's start with you, Bernie.
Speaker 1: I was introduced um, to be honest, I you know,
Speaker 1: I came as a foreign student from Malaysia and it
Speaker 1: was my first Christmas without post parents, away from my
Speaker 1: parents because it was not convenient to travel. And I
Speaker 1: decided I'm going to bake cookies because I'm feeling really homesick.
Speaker 1: So I turned on and let me and on the
Speaker 1: TV to keep me company, and of course your show
Speaker 1: was on, and I heard your voice and I was like,
Speaker 1: who is this nice lady? She is not annoying like
Speaker 1: a lot of other cookie shows. This is much better,
Speaker 1: you know, she's actually and I said, oh, she's Martha Stewart.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of her, and it's and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: and she's actually teaching me things I want to know
Speaker 1: and I'm interested in I'm gonna learn. So that's that
Speaker 1: was my What year was that, Bernie? That was nine six,
Speaker 1: I think, or it's a long time ago. And what
Speaker 1: about you, Dennis. Um, I actually bought my house that
Speaker 1: we live in in Memorial Day and I was trying
Speaker 1: to you know, do things around um, you know, improvements
Speaker 1: around my house. And I was talking to a colleague
Speaker 1: about like a year later because I wanted to like
Speaker 1: get into the space and then try to figure out
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do with color and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. And so I was talking to a colleague
Speaker 1: and she said, you know, she said, there's a magazine
Speaker 1: that I get that um, it's an issue that has
Speaker 1: um the issue about painting, you know, like the interior
Speaker 1: of a house in different techniques and stuff. And she said,
Speaker 1: I'll bring it for you. So she brings it, and
Speaker 1: what it is is this very issue from I Love
Speaker 1: that issue from April May. And so I took it.
Speaker 1: She said, she said, you can borrow the magazine, but
Speaker 1: I want to back. It's like, okay, I look at
Speaker 1: home and I started looking and then it's like I
Speaker 1: got sidetracked because I started looking through it and the
Speaker 1: whole painting section I was like the last of my
Speaker 1: interests on it because there were so many other things
Speaker 1: in the magazine. I got my attention, and so I
Speaker 1: started getting the magazine. Um. Shortly thereafter, like I went
Speaker 1: to the news stand and then started my own getting
Speaker 1: the subscription and been getting it ever since. And the
Speaker 1: house is still painted all the Martha colors here, so
Speaker 1: how lovely. Now. I just want to point out that
Speaker 1: Bernie and uh and Dennis our partners and lived together
Speaker 1: in where do you live? Madison, Wisconsin? Madison, Wisconsin, far
Speaker 1: from Malaysia, Bernie very far now to Andrew Ritchie, when
Speaker 1: were you first introduced to the Martha brand? What attracted
Speaker 1: you to my brand? It was definitely through the magazine. UM.
Speaker 1: I was in college actually in Toronto, and every time
Speaker 1: I would do groceries, I would just see this gorgeous
Speaker 1: magazine at the news stand with these evocative photographs of
Speaker 1: flower arrangements and cakes, and it just sort of entranced me,
Speaker 1: and I just became so enamored of the visual style
Speaker 1: of the magazine. Really, UM, I had gone to art
Speaker 1: school in high school, so I had sort of like
Speaker 1: a very aesthetic i I think, and it really just
Speaker 1: sort of appealed to me. And then as I sort
Speaker 1: of went through the magazine, I was realizing how much
Speaker 1: it was a teaching me, um, how to things that
Speaker 1: you know, my parents and that the generation of my
Speaker 1: parents sort of neglected to teach. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of their kids, um, how to make a bad how
Speaker 1: to cook, how to um organize. UM. So all of
Speaker 1: these things kind of like came into my life through
Speaker 1: the magazine. But it was really the visual side of
Speaker 1: the magazine that first piqued my interest. It's funny that
Speaker 1: you say about but your parents forgot to teach you
Speaker 1: because I remember my brother's a dentist in Buffalo, New
Speaker 1: York and UM, and he said, Martha, he said, there
Speaker 1: is an increased um incidents of tooth decay in children.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, why what do you account? What
Speaker 1: do you why because he said, because mothers are back
Speaker 1: to work and they're not teaching their children how to
Speaker 1: brush their teeth and not making sure the kids are
Speaker 1: brushing their teeth. So it's the same thing mothers went
Speaker 1: back to work, the single no parent household. The kids
Speaker 1: were uh, they came ledg key kids and they didn't
Speaker 1: know that nobody was teaching them anything about the domestic arts.
Speaker 1: And my first real goal was to teach and inspire uh.
Speaker 1: And it worked and worked on you three guys, which
Speaker 1: is very nice. You you you got, you got the
Speaker 1: message loud and clear, and that you were three men
Speaker 1: who really spearheaded UM a big following of other followers
Speaker 1: that your men. It's also indicative of the fact that
Speaker 1: my fastest growing audience at the present time is men.
Speaker 1: Because we were geared. We were geared totally towards women.
Speaker 1: You know, advertisers wanted to know what age women were
Speaker 1: we attracting. They never asked about the men. Now they're
Speaker 1: asking about men. They want to know who is the audience.
Speaker 1: Andrew Ritchie, you're You're the best editor that I know, really,
Speaker 1: and your blog is so beautifully edited. It's called Martha Moments.
Speaker 1: When did you start this blog and why so? I
Speaker 1: started it in two thousand and six, which is a
Speaker 1: really long time ago now that I think about it. UM,
Speaker 1: I basically just wanted to build an archive, yes for fans,
Speaker 1: written by a fan from a fan's perspective, UM, where
Speaker 1: collectors could come and find out about UM, you know,
Speaker 1: the magazines that you had published, the books that you
Speaker 1: had published, and basically just sort of elevated again. UM.
Speaker 1: I had actually written for a Save Martha dot com.
Speaker 1: I know you remember Save Martha dot com during the Yes,
Speaker 1: the early two thousand's. This was when I was having
Speaker 1: legal problems. Everyone you probably if you're listening, you probably
Speaker 1: know about those. And Andrew Ritchie was one of my
Speaker 1: foremost supporters. Thank you. UM. What I found was that like,
Speaker 1: not just you were sort of being undermined, but your
Speaker 1: work was also being undermined, which I found very upsetting
Speaker 1: as someone who had learned so much from it. So
Speaker 1: when you were back at work and you were, you know,
Speaker 1: back on television. UM, I wanted to really create something
Speaker 1: that brought the work back and sort of made it
Speaker 1: put the spotlight back on the goodness of the work
Speaker 1: because it has really enhanced my life and so many
Speaker 1: other people as well. So what did you think of
Speaker 1: as a Martha moment and where did that name come from? Well,
Speaker 1: the name actually comes from Oprah Winfrey. UM. She used
Speaker 1: it once on her program when she was with you.
Speaker 1: I think you were doing a weddings segment and you
Speaker 1: had put a gardenia floating guardinia in a dish with
Speaker 1: water and candles, and she said, oh, I'm having a
Speaker 1: Martha moment. And at that time you can hear Roper's voice.
Speaker 1: I know you can hear Roper's voice saying that. Um.
Speaker 1: At that time, it was kind of a thing to
Speaker 1: say you were having a Martha moment. So if you
Speaker 1: made a beautiful cake, or if you set a beautiful table,
Speaker 1: you would have a Martha moment. UM. So when I
Speaker 1: actually sat down to write the blog, I knew that
Speaker 1: that was going to be the title, because people could
Speaker 1: have a Martha moment any day, anytime. UM. As long
Speaker 1: as there was beauty, as long as there was some
Speaker 1: kind of utility, some kind of you know, fascination with
Speaker 1: the every day, that's a Martha moment. So that's how
Speaker 1: it all kind of began. And people also say, it's
Speaker 1: so Martha. Yeah, you know, that's a that's another phrase,
Speaker 1: Martha moment is lovely and thank you oprah. Uh. But
Speaker 1: it's so Martha is another thing I hear a lot
Speaker 1: um and and how flattering that is too, because people
Speaker 1: really respond to good ideas, and they also respond very
Speaker 1: much to the other phrase that I use a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. So it's a good thing, is
Speaker 1: still a very alive and well. And people still joke.
Speaker 1: They think it's a joke now you know, Oh it's
Speaker 1: a good thing, and they laugh at yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're the three of you showed up at the
Speaker 1: tag sale. Now, everyone who's listening, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know about the Tag Sale. We did a TV
Speaker 1: special about it called The Great American Tag Sale. And
Speaker 1: I decided I had an overflow of UM collectibles, a
Speaker 1: big overflow from I had sold my house in East
Speaker 1: Hampton that was chalk full of beautiful things UM. I
Speaker 1: had Barnes full of beautiful things here at my farm
Speaker 1: in Bedford, New York, and I decided I would have
Speaker 1: a charity tag sale to benefit my hospital at Mount
Speaker 1: sign I called the Martha Stewart's Center for Living and
Speaker 1: we did raise just shy, just shy of a million dollars,
Speaker 1: which I was so proud of. And uh, and I
Speaker 1: don't miss anything much. It's kind of heartbreaking to part
Speaker 1: with some of the things that you collect, But boy,
Speaker 1: I think we caused a lot of joy. And you
Speaker 1: guys certainly helped engender a lot of goodwill by your
Speaker 1: presence and I really appreciate that. What was it? What
Speaker 1: was it like for you? Bernie? Um? It was like
Speaker 1: a dream because I had never had the chance to
Speaker 1: um come to any of your shows or come to
Speaker 1: any of your book sightings, you know, for one reason
Speaker 1: another my first time meeting you in person. So that
Speaker 1: was that alone, was you know? I was like when
Speaker 1: I when I met you the cocktail party the night before,
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, I don't care if I don't find
Speaker 1: anything I wanted to buy, because I'm already happy that
Speaker 1: I'm here. Yeah, of course, you know we got we
Speaker 1: I think we found everything. We've got a huge didn't
Speaker 1: you have a trailers attached to your car? Because you know,
Speaker 1: and then you know the chairs, the green chairs we're
Speaker 1: sitting on. Oh look you have those beautiful chairs powder
Speaker 1: coated by Martha. What else did you get at the
Speaker 1: tag sale, Bertie? Oh? We you know, we got we got.
Speaker 1: The other favorite thing was the chairs that are reproductions
Speaker 1: of the ones on the front cover of Entertaining. Oh
Speaker 1: the Ring, the Ring, Chippendale Hepple white. Actually those are
Speaker 1: heaval white chairs. Yeah, we have been stored away now.
Speaker 1: We're currently shopping for new buildings. Put me so and
Speaker 1: every A lot of stuff that we found that we love,
Speaker 1: like the green metal phrase that you know I always
Speaker 1: use for my tea time on my Instagram that I love,
Speaker 1: you know, the metal market people Instagram Instagram Bernie Wong
Speaker 1: Green Uh. And you will just be you will be
Speaker 1: so happy to see this Instagram because it's not only
Speaker 1: not only highlights beautiful green things and Martha things that
Speaker 1: he has collected, but it also highlights the great talent
Speaker 1: of Bernie is as a as a cook. You make
Speaker 1: beautiful things, Bernie and Uh, when you were making your jam,
Speaker 1: it was the most beautiful because I had never seen
Speaker 1: those jam pots that you use full up here, full disclosure.
Speaker 1: Those are his jam pots, and Dennis is the one
Speaker 1: that introduced me to them. Oh those are those are great?
Speaker 1: And I was like a big naysayer of those darn
Speaker 1: jam pots until I used one and I thought, where
Speaker 1: have these been all these years? Do they still sell them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that the Ball company.
Speaker 1: At first, I think you should have a line of these, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do. Um. The thing is the thing that
Speaker 1: there's they're so incredibly um good for is for people
Speaker 1: who are either handicapped or elderly, people who used to
Speaker 1: make jam the old fashioned way but now can't stand
Speaker 1: at a stove and certainly stand and stir. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: does the stirring for you. That's the best part. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it does the stirring. It does it contemperature control, so
Speaker 1: you're not gonna burn your jam, You're not gonna have
Speaker 1: boiling over your stove. All that syrup. Well, I I
Speaker 1: use a French method of making jams and jellies, which
Speaker 1: requires uh macerating the fruit in the refrigerator for a
Speaker 1: couple of days. So I do that. But you can
Speaker 1: do it with that jam podchare sure. What I like
Speaker 1: about the idea of it is that it's temperature controlled
Speaker 1: and then that it's self contained. You know, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I like about it. And so what did you
Speaker 1: get from the jags sale Andrew? I was a little
Speaker 1: limited by what I could bring back into Canada, and
Speaker 1: I had a smallish car, so I didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of room to bring stuff home in. I would
Speaker 1: have kept stuff for you. Oh you would have Oh
Speaker 1: now I know, yes, Okay, I should have written my
Speaker 1: name on something we welcome getulous I did. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the wicker plants stands that I think you had.
Speaker 1: It was either at Lily Pond Lane or at one
Speaker 1: of the houses at Cantido Corners um and it was
Speaker 1: painted a beautiful sort of um Cylon green darker sale
Speaker 1: on green, really beautiful. And it's in my dining room
Speaker 1: now with a beautiful Boston fern on it, and every
Speaker 1: time I look at it, I think of you, and
Speaker 1: I think of that wonderful experience. I think there is
Speaker 1: still a bureau and there is also I think a mirror,
Speaker 1: and there's also a table still waiting to be picked up.
Speaker 1: Paid for and not picked up. Okay, um, this little
Speaker 1: caramel glass squirrel acorn. Yeah, I was the last one.
Speaker 1: I wish I wanted a pair, but they we'll find
Speaker 1: you more. We'll keep a lookout. Okay, thanks Bernie, Bertie,
Speaker 1: Bertie finds everything. He Bertie, you are an inveterate visitor
Speaker 1: to consignment shops, to tag sails, to uh to antique shops.
Speaker 1: Actually Dennis is too. And that's the one of the
Speaker 1: things other than for all things Martha, that we love
Speaker 1: that we connected on is our love for treasure hunting.
Speaker 1: And I always joked that first of all, you know,
Speaker 1: we will introduced to each other on Martha moments, So
Speaker 1: you know I didn't. Oh, I didn't know that. Really,
Speaker 1: that's so touching to me. By the way, we became
Speaker 1: pen pals, and Dennis suggested, why don't we do jam swamps.
Speaker 1: So we were mailing each other jams and you know.
Speaker 1: And then and then, of course I remember Martha did
Speaker 1: article about the world's longest yard sale. Oh yes. And
Speaker 1: then so Dennis was attending this yard tale. I was
Speaker 1: resisting because I said, I need to not buy so
Speaker 1: many things. So Dennis said one year and says Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: you know I'm coming to start the yard sull in Alabama,
Speaker 1: which is only less than an hour from where you're living.
Speaker 1: You might have a hand deliver the jams. Oh. I
Speaker 1: was like, perfect, you can pick up your comment for me.
Speaker 1: And so I said, well, and he came with two
Speaker 1: of his friends, Claire and m and uh. So I said, perfect,
Speaker 1: my excuse to make brunch. So I made brunch for them.
Speaker 1: They came and um, that was our first meeting. You know,
Speaker 1: that's uh when Martha Moment's friends get together, we you know,
Speaker 1: we pull all the stuff. You're like, let's do Let's
Speaker 1: do it very Martha. And we did that. And I
Speaker 1: didn't go to the sale the first year, but I
Speaker 1: saw Dennis his pictures that I'm going to the next year.
Speaker 1: So the following year I went on the sale, and
Speaker 1: then you know, I only went for one day, and
Speaker 1: the next year I went, you know, more of the sale.
Speaker 1: So you know, it was like we were dating on
Speaker 1: the world's longest yard sale. I just hunted for and
Speaker 1: the first thing we found that morning was a two
Speaker 1: cup measuring cup from Kmark with green numbers on it
Speaker 1: with a y. We have a whole cabinet fills. But
Speaker 1: but those are the greatest, and again we use these
Speaker 1: all the time. These are probably what thirty years old, yep,
Speaker 1: more more than thirty as good as what they were
Speaker 1: on day one. Now, there have been many companies out
Speaker 1: there that have educated readers about domestic life. What attracted
Speaker 1: you to my company, my brand, my magazine in particular,
Speaker 1: so Andrew, I think it was just the clarity of
Speaker 1: the instruction and the presentation of the ideas. I had
Speaker 1: never really seen a magazine that elevation at the home
Speaker 1: to such a beautiful standard. Um, And that was kind
Speaker 1: of encouraging to sort of help you move to the
Speaker 1: next level. If you knew how to do something like say,
Speaker 1: bake a cake, let's take it to the next level.
Speaker 1: Let's make it even better, even nicer. Um. And again
Speaker 1: it was all through the photography, through the you know,
Speaker 1: inspirational videos that you did on the television show as well. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just basically the presentation of the ideas that was just
Speaker 1: so innovative and new. It just felt very um. You
Speaker 1: lauded it to like a new level and that was
Speaker 1: really inspiring. And Bernie, Bernie, what did you think, like,
Speaker 1: I'm very visual like Andrews you can tell from Instagram,
Speaker 1: but and also to pick it what he said also,
Speaker 1: not only is it beautiful, Um, it's sort of like
Speaker 1: the magazine. It gives you the tools, information you need,
Speaker 1: the techniques right there, and it's one of those things
Speaker 1: you read and like, oh, okay, so that's how you
Speaker 1: do it. That's not so hard, or I can We'll
Speaker 1: take a little bit of practice. And it's just very
Speaker 1: empowering that way. You know, you you you do things
Speaker 1: you thought. I never knew I could do that, But
Speaker 1: then here are those instructions that you try. No, this
Speaker 1: is fun. That was easy, and look how pretty it is.
Speaker 1: Let's do it again. You know, it's just it's very empowering.
Speaker 1: I guess it's yeah, and it's such a complete vision. Um.
Speaker 1: I would say that I find you your products you
Speaker 1: very uniquely designed and very user friendly, and you know,
Speaker 1: to me, I think that they're set apart from all
Speaker 1: the other product lines out there. You know, some people
Speaker 1: like put their name on just anything, but the lot
Speaker 1: of your items are I should say most of your items,
Speaker 1: or maybe maybe I shouldn't even say, oh that they're
Speaker 1: uniquely designed and user friendly and they're extremely functional as
Speaker 1: well as useful, you know, and and well and well made. True,
Speaker 1: I could I can add will made because like like you, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: I really care about utility and I care about longevity.
Speaker 1: I care. I don't want to make anything that's planned obsolete.
Speaker 1: And you know, at the at present time, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say, oh, this will last you for three
Speaker 1: years and then you have to buy a new one.
Speaker 1: Many many companies think that way. Uh, there is a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of economic books have been written
Speaker 1: about about planned obsolescence. I don't believe in that at all.
Speaker 1: In fact, my favorite towels at present are the towels
Speaker 1: that I designed for Kmart in the nineteen eighties. Uh.
Speaker 1: Those they're fabulous towels. They were made, I remember, made
Speaker 1: in Brazil out of hundred percent cotton, and they are
Speaker 1: I still have them. I have them in my whole
Speaker 1: house in Maine. Every bathroom and there's like twenty bathrooms
Speaker 1: up there in Maine has these towels um in the
Speaker 1: in the bathroom and they're still as good as they
Speaker 1: were when they were made in the nineteen eighties. So
Speaker 1: so that's that's important to me, and I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that you recognize that in the product. I'm jealous of
Speaker 1: the way you display everything when I I look at
Speaker 1: your at your Instagram every single day and I notice
Speaker 1: how your displays are and there's you're so organizing. I
Speaker 1: just want to buy another house and display everything the
Speaker 1: way I think I probably have everything you have. We
Speaker 1: moved in together, you know, both of us long time collectors,
Speaker 1: and um, we actually have a problem right now. We
Speaker 1: are actually looking for a property to display everything because
Speaker 1: we have to rotate our displays at the moment. Well,
Speaker 1: if you find someplace, I'll add, I'll add to your
Speaker 1: archives any anything that's missing that I have, your welcome
Speaker 1: to display. Make it, make a little let's make a
Speaker 1: little museum. That's so funny because I was just thicking
Speaker 1: of that the other day because that we a little destination.
Speaker 1: You're you're you want to do it. Here we go,
Speaker 1: Here we are, we're being entrepreneurial. And by the way, Bernie,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite good thing? You know, it's really really
Speaker 1: hard to pick, and um, I think I discovered that
Speaker 1: my favorite. If I had to pick a good thing,
Speaker 1: I think I'm tired with Andrew because he had shared
Speaker 1: on his on the Market of moments. What his favorite
Speaker 1: good thing was was the dish show. I'm staring at
Speaker 1: it right now by the kitchen. It's the dishop that
Speaker 1: you decanted into a nice bottle with a bar poor
Speaker 1: top bore. So you know, let Andrew probably talk about
Speaker 1: that because he you know, but because I've always thought,
Speaker 1: you know, the sink, kitchen sink, it's so pretty and
Speaker 1: you know, but such a simple idea. Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: soap bottles are so ugly and uh and and sorry,
Speaker 1: Paul mall Off, you're my favorite dish. So but the
Speaker 1: clear clear pal mall of is my favorite because it's clear,
Speaker 1: and in those days, I don't think they were even
Speaker 1: making clear. So mine was green, of course, but it
Speaker 1: still looked better than the bottle of the plastic bottle
Speaker 1: on my sink. So that was that was very That
Speaker 1: was not my very first good thing. The very very
Speaker 1: first good thing was when I painted the handles of
Speaker 1: some small garden tools orange and I said, uh, now
Speaker 1: my garden tools won't get lost in the garden. It's
Speaker 1: a good thing because you'll see them. And that's when
Speaker 1: it that's when everybody picked up on it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: And uh and I continued with that French and my
Speaker 1: second favorite, but my second favorite good thing is this
Speaker 1: the best the hand cultivator from Japan. Yeah, and of
Speaker 1: course you can see this is this is the version yea,
Speaker 1: and it's uh, this one is Christine because this is
Speaker 1: this you know. I bought as many as I could
Speaker 1: so so so we never want to run out of these.
Speaker 1: Particular of the one, the one we use all the
Speaker 1: time has lost all its pain, so maybe it's ready
Speaker 1: for a new coat. Well, I I totally agree. That
Speaker 1: is my favorite garden tool to this day. I discovered
Speaker 1: that shape hand cultivator in Japan on my first trip
Speaker 1: sometime in the late I think I went to Japan
Speaker 1: the first time around something and I discovered that tool.
Speaker 1: And at that time, that tool costs a dollar ninety
Speaker 1: in yen um uh in uh in outside of it
Speaker 1: I think it was outside of Kyoto, and that's where
Speaker 1: I found it. And boy, that has I have made
Speaker 1: an awful lot of those tools and sold an awful
Speaker 1: lot because it's really a great, great hand tool. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you. I'm glad you like that. That's that's great. Now, Dennis,
Speaker 1: what about you? Do you have a favorite good thing.
Speaker 1: I think my very first good thing was the um
Speaker 1: the copper tube being post guard, you know, with the
Speaker 1: copper tool being with a copper cap. I've had to
Speaker 1: replace a few of these because you call your post
Speaker 1: by and whatnot. You stand it up in the garden
Speaker 1: and you hammer that down into a corner, say of
Speaker 1: a guard it in and then your hose goes around
Speaker 1: it on the path and doesn't rip through your through
Speaker 1: your flower bed. Yeah, I started making those. I was
Speaker 1: trying to think. I remember that was a Turkey Hill road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and I had lots of brick
Speaker 1: and gravel paths everywhere in my garden. It was a
Speaker 1: very like william S Williamsburg esque kind of garden. And
Speaker 1: I kept dragging my hose. I had to have somebody
Speaker 1: stand there while I pulled the hose. It wouldn't go
Speaker 1: into the flowers. And that's when I came up with
Speaker 1: that copper that copper pipe. We still have them, I
Speaker 1: still have them there still. I went out to the
Speaker 1: garden this morning and washed that off. I'm like, I said,
Speaker 1: you better get back. The hose is going to hit
Speaker 1: the flowers. Spring. I got solded for bringing it in
Speaker 1: he said, where did you get that? I said, it
Speaker 1: was out there. I'll put it back when I'm done.
Speaker 1: Oh and what about you, Andrew, what's your favorite good thing?
Speaker 1: As Bernie mentioned, it's definitely the dish soap and the
Speaker 1: by the side of the sink. It's just such a simple,
Speaker 1: effective idea that you know, takes something that's not very
Speaker 1: attractive and makes it attractive. I mean sometimes you actually
Speaker 1: just want to look at the bottle because it's so
Speaker 1: beautiful it's sitting beside the sink, you know, and it
Speaker 1: encourages you obviously to do dishes as well. So but
Speaker 1: there's just so many good things that have just been
Speaker 1: so inspiring, and you know, I like the idea that
Speaker 1: it's something that is nice. It appeals good things. Just
Speaker 1: the name appeals to so many people. I remember one
Speaker 1: of my girlfriends little girls, uh was in her kitchen
Speaker 1: putting a saucer of water under the cat food dish
Speaker 1: and the mother looked at her. He said, what the
Speaker 1: heck are you doing? What are you putting water on
Speaker 1: in a dish for? And she said, well, I learned
Speaker 1: this good thing on Martha's show because it keeps the
Speaker 1: ants from getting into the food. So this was like
Speaker 1: a four year old girl telling her mother that she
Speaker 1: had seen it on my show and that that just
Speaker 1: made me understand that good things were widely appealing and
Speaker 1: widely useful to all ages. So so thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you for that. That's amazing. Andrew Richie, you edit your
Speaker 1: own cookbooks. I did get a copy of your cookbook
Speaker 1: last year. Yes, but you're an amazing editor. You're amazing.
Speaker 1: What do you do for a living? Actually work at Anthropology,
Speaker 1: which has nothing to do at all with editing. But
Speaker 1: I'm a manager at an Anthropology store here in Ottawa
Speaker 1: and Canada. Um, and I just like the environment of
Speaker 1: the creativity of it. Um. If you know anything about Anthropology,
Speaker 1: it's there's lots of display, there's lots of sort of
Speaker 1: artistic merchandel. It's a store we visit often. And Anthropology
Speaker 1: has now fostered another store called Terrain. Terrain Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know you love Terrain. I have not done there. They're
Speaker 1: not in Canada, but I really well when you come
Speaker 1: down again, if you come down again, I will take
Speaker 1: you to Terrain in Westport, Connecticut. It's one of the
Speaker 1: one of the liveliest, nicest stores. And uh it's basically
Speaker 1: a garden store that's branched out into home goods, to
Speaker 1: at nursery and now they have a very nice restaurant,
Speaker 1: and I think they must have maybe three or four
Speaker 1: of them now scattered on the East coast. You would
Speaker 1: like it a lot. We actually, after the tax still
Speaker 1: closed on Saturday, we needed, of course, you know, we
Speaker 1: needed to go do more shopping. So we actually drove
Speaker 1: down to Westport Um not for terrain, actually because I
Speaker 1: had never Dennis had visited Turkey Hill when you did
Speaker 1: the garden to it. I had never seen Turkey Hill
Speaker 1: in person. So we had to do a drive by,
Speaker 1: I said, because he said, Well, they said, well what
Speaker 1: should we do? We had our friend Jennifer was another
Speaker 1: Moment's person that we met. She lives in Minneapolis, and
Speaker 1: so she when she heard that we were going to
Speaker 1: the sale, she asked if she could come along and
Speaker 1: I said absolutely. And so after we got down with
Speaker 1: the sale and they said, well not, what should we do?
Speaker 1: And I said, wow, you guys want to go see
Speaker 1: Turkey Hill? And there was like gas in the inside.
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. And then so of course we
Speaker 1: drove by. We drove up and down um, you know,
Speaker 1: up and down the road hoping that you know. I
Speaker 1: was that these people must think we're crazy driving up
Speaker 1: and down, you know, just looking because it was just
Speaker 1: you know. And then of course we went to terrain
Speaker 1: and then we had the best seafood at West Fair
Speaker 1: Fish and Chips. So we published the Martha Stewart Living
Speaker 1: Magazine for thirty years. Last year was the thirtieth year
Speaker 1: of publication. How many issues do you all have? I
Speaker 1: have everything from onward, so every issue from right up
Speaker 1: to the last issue. Um. I have all of the
Speaker 1: special issues. I have all of the baby issues, all
Speaker 1: of the kids issues. UM. I don't have every day
Speaker 1: not a lot of everyday food and not a lot
Speaker 1: of weddings. Um. And I also have I don't know
Speaker 1: if you probably remember this, Martha, but it's your first newsletter,
Speaker 1: the first newsletter that you ever published before the magazine.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, And that's such a treasure to
Speaker 1: me too to have that it was something that you
Speaker 1: had done before the magazine even started. And it's just
Speaker 1: it's so personal too. It's one of my treasures. I
Speaker 1: have a whole notebook of those I should I should
Speaker 1: republish some of those because those were kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: They were lots of good information too. And what about you, Dennis,
Speaker 1: how many copies do you have? We have every issue
Speaker 1: and duplicates of several And what's great about them is
Speaker 1: when I pulled them out, I said, well, this is
Speaker 1: still better than any magazine I can get on the
Speaker 1: new Stepe absolutely know, even one that's twenty three years old.
Speaker 1: The content is still just as relevant and informative and
Speaker 1: visually just evergreen. Well, that's that's the word. We tried
Speaker 1: very hard to make everything evergreen. Uh. And we we thought, well,
Speaker 1: if this is the way to plant a tree, this
Speaker 1: is the way we're going to write the instructions of
Speaker 1: how to plant a tree, and we won't change it
Speaker 1: until we find a better way to plant a tree.
Speaker 1: So that's the way. That was our philosophy from day one,
Speaker 1: is always to to try to try to get in
Speaker 1: words the end pictures, beautiful photographs of the best way
Speaker 1: to do everything. And so so here we have three
Speaker 1: men who who can attest to the fact and they
Speaker 1: still live by it. This is pretty fabulous. What's your
Speaker 1: favorite cover, Andrew? I actually have it right here. I
Speaker 1: have two of them. There's one with you on the
Speaker 1: cover in one without you on the cover, But the
Speaker 1: one with you on the cover is this one with
Speaker 1: the photograph by William A. Brown Bits and it's teeny
Speaker 1: Weenie and Mozart, and I think you're sitting in at
Speaker 1: Lily Pond. That was no, that was yeah, that was tricky. Here.
Speaker 1: The cats don't travels. Cats do not go from I
Speaker 1: took them once. I took five cats once to Lily Pond,
Speaker 1: and I spent three days searching for five and they
Speaker 1: discovered every little nook and cranny that has had a
Speaker 1: lot of nooks and crannies that I will never ever
Speaker 1: take my cats elsewhere. So but Mozart, Mozart was my
Speaker 1: favorite favorite of all cats. Mozarts was so beautiful. And
Speaker 1: then what's the other what's your other favorite? This is
Speaker 1: the one on the cover. Yeah, Christopher Baker took the photo.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that's the first. That one is
Speaker 1: the first issue I bought. I just think it's so stunning.
Speaker 1: The colors, the composition that was again here in Bedford,
Speaker 1: Um with Kevin Sharky using my tulips from the garden
Speaker 1: in that black iron, beautiful black iron urn. And uh,
Speaker 1: those tulips. He did the arrangement and that's a typical
Speaker 1: Kevin Sharky arrangement. A few lilocks. Beat isn't it gorgeous? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So beautiful. And Bill is still Bill is still a photographer.
Speaker 1: Bill a brno as he was, he's like a breakthrough photographer.
Speaker 1: Um and who did the cats? I forget the cats
Speaker 1: was actually a brand of bits. And then Christopher that
Speaker 1: was also as this one was Chris. Christopher Baker did
Speaker 1: the flowers. Yeah, that's right. Chris Baker was one of
Speaker 1: my first photographers and he did my Christmas book, my
Speaker 1: first Christmas book and uh and and Christopher we had
Speaker 1: I think thirty days to photograph that Christmas book and
Speaker 1: by the thirtieth day he was almost broken because it
Speaker 1: was a tremendous amount of work. And then he went
Speaker 1: on to work for us for years afterward. We're still
Speaker 1: good friends that I have one of his most beautiful
Speaker 1: platinum photographs, platinum printed photographs in my front hall at
Speaker 1: at the farm here. Uh and uh and he has
Speaker 1: talented children and he's he's amazing. I'm amazing photographer. Do
Speaker 1: you have a favorite cover, Bertie? Yeah, So my favorite
Speaker 1: is this one. The Great Wall of China, well China,
Speaker 1: because I remember the first time I just came in
Speaker 1: the mail, I mean I stopped there was oh good,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, don't feel so bad having
Speaker 1: so many dishes. I love, you know, just how it's
Speaker 1: displayed and just you know, it's just really comforting. And
Speaker 1: actually my second favorite is actually I'm tied with Andrew
Speaker 1: because this is the issue with the article about esthetic
Speaker 1: transfer ware. That yeah, from that and you you got
Speaker 1: some good stuff at the tag Sail, didn't you. I did. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, my my prize pieces now to to almost
Speaker 1: complete my collection of aesthetic transfer ware. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: this is probably my favorite cover if I had to pick.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's hard to pick. When people ask me,
Speaker 1: I said, well, the one I'm currently looking at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you guys, you guys remind me a little bit
Speaker 1: of Frisch Carch. You know Fritz from the magazine. He
Speaker 1: was are collecting editor. I mean, we had a collecting
Speaker 1: editor and Nature editor, a uh many cooking editors. But
Speaker 1: the collecting was something that appealed to so many people
Speaker 1: because we we did stories on so many different collectibles
Speaker 1: and uh and I think that that really when we
Speaker 1: did fire King Fire Kings, the prices skyrocketed for fire
Speaker 1: King and they still are way up there for the original. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the thing that the collecting articles did was
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't see the beauty of the
Speaker 1: utility of a lot of stuff. They just thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is just junk or whatever. But the articles collecting
Speaker 1: articles really highlighted, you know, the item that was featured,
Speaker 1: like no class. You know, Um, I remember the article
Speaker 1: about milk glass. That was just amazing because and you know,
Speaker 1: I was happy with that because oh I can find
Speaker 1: no class, you know, I did than other things. And
Speaker 1: I think Venice has his favorite cover right there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean mine obviously is the very first one that
Speaker 1: got introduced me to you and your your whole brand,
Speaker 1: and so went about paint. Yeah, and you know the
Speaker 1: rest is history, you know, and we're still we're still painting,
Speaker 1: we're still choosing colors. Were still I just did. I
Speaker 1: just painted the tenant house after the tag sail. The
Speaker 1: tenant house was kind of empty because we took a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff out of there. When my daughter came
Speaker 1: up one day, that's her house and she just took
Speaker 1: everything off the shelves and put it all on the floor,
Speaker 1: and she said, I want this empty, and uh so
Speaker 1: I so with all the walls, I just I repainted
Speaker 1: the walls, just subtle shades of of in a low
Speaker 1: V O C paint from from Texas Build fabulous, fabulous
Speaker 1: water paint. Uh and the walls looked very beautiful. But
Speaker 1: we're still doing it. Say, we'll never stop doing what
Speaker 1: we love. And that's what the whole basis of living
Speaker 1: was doing things that you love, to beautify your homes,
Speaker 1: to make it nicer for everybody to live in really,
Speaker 1: and and and and the chores and the and the
Speaker 1: projects don't have to be break your back. They don't
Speaker 1: have to be terribly expensive. They can just be uh Oh,
Speaker 1: I've decided I really love I really loves to where
Speaker 1: I'm going to start a little collection of my own
Speaker 1: and display it on this wall. And that's what people
Speaker 1: do now, and they then it gets them interested in
Speaker 1: other things. And that's what I think we engendered a
Speaker 1: lot of was was a delight in and collecting, displaying,
Speaker 1: using all these beautiful things. You make good friends through
Speaker 1: the process, yes you do. And that's indeed because I
Speaker 1: think we always when we get together with other Martha
Speaker 1: Moments members, I think we're all on that same way
Speaker 1: length and we appreciate the same you know, doing things
Speaker 1: nicely and all that. So when you get together, it's
Speaker 1: just like it's like your old friends in a way.
Speaker 1: But it's not even just doing it nicely. You your
Speaker 1: guys are doing it wonderfully. And I am so proud
Speaker 1: when I when I look at your work. So remember
Speaker 1: at Bernie Wong Green, Um, Dennis, do you have a
Speaker 1: handle to Yeah, I mean I'm not active on Instagram.
Speaker 1: My Instagram is really the both of us, uh, you know, Denis, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what I figure you're talking about each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm more on Facebook and with with the things
Speaker 1: that we do, and so you know, it's so it's
Speaker 1: kind of that way. It's not so time intensive for you.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it takes time to do social media.
Speaker 1: So tell tell me about it. I try. I try
Speaker 1: very hard to. I've tried very hard to limit my
Speaker 1: my viewing and my posting to just not not very
Speaker 1: much in a day because I don't have time either.
Speaker 1: But it's so fascinating to look at my good friends
Speaker 1: and see what they're doing and Andrew, how long does
Speaker 1: Martha Moments take of you? Well, I try to do
Speaker 1: at least two or three a week to you posts
Speaker 1: a week on the Instagram page. So it's at Martha
Speaker 1: Underscore moments um. And then it's it's kind of moved
Speaker 1: away from the blog a little bit to the social
Speaker 1: media aspect, which I think is just sort of the
Speaker 1: reality of life today. So there's the people have a
Speaker 1: shorter attention spec Yes, exactly. Yeah. So there's the Martha
Speaker 1: Moments Facebook group which has almost six thousand members now,
Speaker 1: and then there's the Instagram page, which has almost five
Speaker 1: thousand followers. So the Instagram is a good opportunity to
Speaker 1: kind of really focus something on one post, one idea,
Speaker 1: one photograph, one moment um and really highlight that. And
Speaker 1: I'm very long green. Um. We actually it's it's almost
Speaker 1: it's very spontaneous. It's really how we live, you know.
Speaker 1: I we just it's just how we live and we
Speaker 1: just happened. I'll just snap a photo. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's have a photo that like when he decided to make.
Speaker 1: But you want to know something, Bernie, Bernie, the differences
Speaker 1: your photos are really good, Yes, and when you post them,
Speaker 1: it looks so just amazing, every single one. So you'll
Speaker 1: be getting after this podcast, you'll be getting a lot
Speaker 1: more followers, all of you. So so be prepared. But yeah,
Speaker 1: be ready. But but really and truly, Uh it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's incredible what you what you make of the material.
Speaker 1: And now, Bertie, you cook a lot? You are do
Speaker 1: you also do things for people's parties and stuff or
Speaker 1: are you catering a little bit? Yeah, so we cook
Speaker 1: a lot because we were trying to have to eat
Speaker 1: out as much because we like our own you know,
Speaker 1: we make our work meals and and we could well
Speaker 1: plus the fact that we make things better than we
Speaker 1: can find when we go out, so and we have
Speaker 1: a nice setup, and the fact why not and you know,
Speaker 1: and Dennis, you know, we both collect cookbooks and we
Speaker 1: love reading through them and just you know, so why
Speaker 1: not cook a lot? And uh and yeah, I used
Speaker 1: to have a business making wedding cakes. So now we
Speaker 1: just do them for friends and family. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we we try to not ever tell is because we
Speaker 1: can't keep up. So it's just people who know we'll
Speaker 1: call us and say, hey, can you make me some cookies?
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, we hope we can. We're not at work. Well,
Speaker 1: sometimes you make like a thousand cookies and they're so good,
Speaker 1: like on an epic scale. Yeah, well, you know, we
Speaker 1: love Actually, you know, it's it's I have to blame Dennis.
Speaker 1: I usually like to make, you know, just two or
Speaker 1: three batches just in. Dennis was like, well, why bothered
Speaker 1: You're only going to make Yeah, it's like, oh, we
Speaker 1: can make some Why don't want to make some extras?
Speaker 1: You know? And so yeah, we do everything pretty much
Speaker 1: on the grand scale. And now, now, Dennis, we didn't
Speaker 1: talk about your occupation. You are a nurse. Yes, I
Speaker 1: work at a state psychiatric hospital um where we all
Speaker 1: pretty much forensic patients. So those are individuals who have
Speaker 1: committed horrible crimes but who are mentally ill. But the
Speaker 1: nice thing about that is I have a kind of
Speaker 1: a unique schedule. So that's why I can, you know,
Speaker 1: we can do the things that we'd like to do
Speaker 1: because I end up working sixteen hour days and I
Speaker 1: work five of those days every two weeks, and so
Speaker 1: then I have eight days off in a row. Do
Speaker 1: you have a stressful job? Yeah, but can't you can't?
Speaker 1: You can you take your overflow cookies to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Well not for the patients, but that my coworkers love
Speaker 1: it when we do. Because when we make stuff, I said, well,
Speaker 1: why don't we make an extra You can take one
Speaker 1: to work or I'll take them to work, and the
Speaker 1: people just love it. Co workers get you know when
Speaker 1: like the other day we had we had to use
Speaker 1: up some bananas, so we just made two banana cakes
Speaker 1: and oh, these would be great at work, you know,
Speaker 1: co workers would love them. So that's what we usually do.
Speaker 1: We share with co workers. And I'm like, for Christmas,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't tend to buy gifts because most
Speaker 1: of our friends already have everything. We don't know what
Speaker 1: to buy them, so and they appreciate getting something homemade.
Speaker 1: And we learned that, you know, from reading the magazine.
Speaker 1: And you know, we try to package to them like
Speaker 1: in a nice box or in like if you're giving
Speaker 1: somebody a bakington, you fill it up with cookies, you know.
Speaker 1: Try everything looks picture perfect with Bernie Wong Green. What
Speaker 1: about you, Andrew, you're cooking a lot. Well, you actually
Speaker 1: taught me how to bake. I never really had even
Speaker 1: sort of ventured that way. But when COVID happened. We
Speaker 1: were kind of trapped in our houses for all that time. Um,
Speaker 1: I realized that I had sort of bookmarked all of
Speaker 1: these baking recipes in all of your cookbooks, and oh,
Speaker 1: you know, one day I'll do it. One day I'll
Speaker 1: make it, And then here I have all this time
Speaker 1: on my hands. I just decided, Okay, well, now is
Speaker 1: the time that I'm going to do it. So I started.
Speaker 1: I did have an exercise bike nearby, just so you know, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: and a freezer full of goodness. Um. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: just started baking, and then also used your magazine as
Speaker 1: kind of inspiration for styling the photographs of the finished product.
Speaker 1: Someone like Aisha Patel, who worked with you for so
Speaker 1: long in the style department, was such a big inspiration
Speaker 1: to me and her styling of the photographs, and I
Speaker 1: just decided to photograph them, put them together and make
Speaker 1: a sort of like a very small cookbook for family
Speaker 1: and friends. Um. And that was really rewarding to me.
Speaker 1: So I just saw I shall last week and the
Speaker 1: mushroom dinner. Did you did you post on the yes
Speaker 1: a Gail's how He's gorgeous townhouse in Greenwich village. Uh
Speaker 1: see these these gentlemen that I am talking to today,
Speaker 1: This fan base knows my editors, they know the photographers,
Speaker 1: they know the the everything that that we we, the
Speaker 1: artists that drew the drawings. I mean, it's really great.
Speaker 1: I Shaw would be so thrilled to know that you
Speaker 1: were using her name. Yeah, I'm gone her. Yeah. We
Speaker 1: were so glad because Hannah was posting some really fun
Speaker 1: live videos and I was so glad I was available,
Speaker 1: So I kept logging a side. Oh what's Hannah showing us? Now?
Speaker 1: This is so cool, Martha. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can hear if we have chickens and we just en
Speaker 1: We let them out during the winter to throw them
Speaker 1: around in the yard and good are patio right now.
Speaker 1: So I apologize if they're making noise because typically I
Speaker 1: don't hear them. But but good for you. I went
Speaker 1: to the to the Northeast Poultry Congress this Saturday with
Speaker 1: Chrispitts Miller, and I got myself a pair of Bourbon
Speaker 1: red turkeys. They're beautiful and they're gonna be They're gonna
Speaker 1: be laying a lot of eggs and I hope I'll
Speaker 1: hatch some some new ones. Um, and I got myself
Speaker 1: some new coaches. I had a mail coach and a
Speaker 1: black coach and a big one from last year and
Speaker 1: no wives. So I got him some wives and he's
Speaker 1: gonna be he's very happy. So yeah, we're still we're
Speaker 1: still after at the chicken things. But I hear that
Speaker 1: there is a network of people out there that look
Speaker 1: for some of the product that we've produced. And there's
Speaker 1: even a quarterly tag sale. Is that? The which which
Speaker 1: tag sale is that? So that's the Martha Moments group,
Speaker 1: the Facebook group which has as I say, almost six
Speaker 1: thousand members now from all over the world. Um. Seasonally
Speaker 1: we do a tag sale, so we sort of allow
Speaker 1: people on the group to sell Martha Stewart books, magazines, products,
Speaker 1: merchandise amongst each other. Um. And it's amazing what people
Speaker 1: have and it's a really good way I think to
Speaker 1: sort of get So when is that? When is that?
Speaker 1: The next one will be in the spring? So I
Speaker 1: do like spring, summer, fall, winter, Um, so probably I'm
Speaker 1: guessing I haven't really decided on a date, but probably
Speaker 1: April or May will open that up for the months
Speaker 1: we'll be watching watching for that. Okay, And what are
Speaker 1: the what are the products that Martha fans covet the most.
Speaker 1: I think the I think at the moment the green mixers,
Speaker 1: the Kitchen Aide green mixer, and I think, yeah, now, um.
Speaker 1: I actually, before I was able to get one and
Speaker 1: find one, I actually called Kitchen Aide and asked them, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do we go about getting a color back? And
Speaker 1: they said what color are you talking about? So I
Speaker 1: told them and they said, oh, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: retired color and we you know, they don't bring them back.
Speaker 1: I actually even went to their headquarters and went on
Speaker 1: a tour and brought it up again and uh and
Speaker 1: they said, well, this keep calling because she said if
Speaker 1: you bother them enough, they will bring back retired color.
Speaker 1: So maybe Martha had called because it is Martha Green
Speaker 1: on the mixture that stays on the bottom, Martha Green. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, it's definitely Martha Green. And don't don't
Speaker 1: tell anybody, but I do have some of those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to do another green green tag sails.
Speaker 1: People have been asking and they're like, when do you
Speaker 1: think Martha's Texas is? I want to Oh. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Martha needs to rest and think
Speaker 1: about it. So what what should every Martha fan have?
Speaker 1: Would you say? I would say that every Martha fan
Speaker 1: should probably have the first issue of the magazine if
Speaker 1: they can find it. It does come up on eBay
Speaker 1: quite regularly. What's what's the price now? On eBay it
Speaker 1: usually starts around sixty dollars, which is the deal there
Speaker 1: these days, because it is a deal. Yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: some go for hundreds. Yeah. Oh, I've seen some go
Speaker 1: for hundreds of dollars. I'm yeah, this is it right here?
Speaker 1: I know for his first issue recently, Wow, oh my goodness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that that in my Ralph Lauren flannel shirt. Yes,
Speaker 1: with your Armani sweater and your Haynes t shirt by Haynes.
Speaker 1: Anything Martha by Mail now is very coveted by fans.
Speaker 1: Um it's the then Illy was so superior and just
Speaker 1: it was fantastic. But as far as something that everyone
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