1 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: What is going on my People three and Out podcast 2 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: with me John middle cop Uh last week of the preseason. 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: As I'm recording this, we are a week away. It's 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon at about four o'clock in the afternoon, so 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: literally fourteen days and about an hour and a half 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: away from the kickoff of the NFL season. I think 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: it'll be the biggest NFL season in the history of 8 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: the league in terms of ratings, in terms of interest 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: obviously gambling fantasy, It's never been bigger. Can't wait. I'm 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: clearly in the football business, but I'm I'm pretty bullish 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: on where we're headed and uh and the sport for 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: the near term. Nothing, nothing stays on top, you know, 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: even Rome Phille America, who knows, you know, keep our 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: fingers crossed, but won't be on top forever. Um you 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: could argue, Hell, I mean, that's a whole different conversation. 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: But I'm very excited for the season. Some stuff happened. 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio made a decision. I saw something Pete Prisco 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: reported about Urban Meyer that piqued my interest. Cam Newton 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: and Mac and Cheese also known as McCorkle also known 20 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: as Mac Jones. Uh, some takes there maybe better. Roethlisberger's 21 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: got a little Tiger Woods to him. Something I thought 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: of watching some clips of him throw this preseason and uh. 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: And then of course the Middlecoff mail Bag at John 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram slide up in those d M 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: s and we do the Middlecoff mail bag. And what 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: we do in the Middlecoff mail Bag is a little uh, 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: we answer your questions. You guys know the drill. Uh 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: be some big news coming next week that's exciting. Not 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: much is gonna change, you'll find out, but we'll just 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: keep on rocking and rolling. Baby. Of course, if you 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: listen to Collins Feed, subscribe to the three and out feed, 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: if you could leave a review and leave a review 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: up positive one. If you can't, if you hate me, 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: leave a negative one, I don't care. But if you 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: leave a review, it just helps with the the boosting 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: of this, uh, of this little show we got going. 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: One guy I think who's had a pretty i'd say 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: positive month of August would be Roethlisberger. Uh. You know, 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: it turns out he wasn't actually on a vegan diet. 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Still chubby, but you know he's he's always played chubby 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: his issue, and I had a couple of Steeler fans 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: like middle goth, you're so mean, that is not true. 43 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: Look at this guy like, yeah, he's a bigger guy. 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: Like I. Listen, I'm chubby too. Nothing wrong with being Jebby. 45 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: You know, most humans aren't skinny, you know, and Roethlisberger 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: has never been Mr Skinny and definitely never been Mr healthy. 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: Neither of MI. Like I had cookies for lunch, you know, 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: with the salad, but you know I do Chucko cookies. 49 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: I like eating dirty as much as the next guy. 50 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: But Roethlisberger, to me, my question was health. And last 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: year as the season went on, he looked like a 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: different guy in the cold and as a as a 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods lover. Uh, hopefully he's doing all right after 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: the injury, which I don't know. I would probably never 55 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: be back the same. Hell, his career might be open. 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: But one thing, when Tiger Woods came back from the 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: back injury, he was never the same. In cold weather situations, 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: it makes sense, right, you can't get warm, it's hard 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: to play, especially like Pebble Beach or out here in 60 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. TPC Harding Park had the PJA Championship. 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: It gets cold that there's like a mist and a fog. 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: It's not warm. He did not play well in any 63 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: of the events where it was freezing cold. When he 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: got to the summer a couple of years ago, the Masters, 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: you're sweating, it's warm, he could loosen up and he 66 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: could play well. So Roethlisberger, my question is not I 67 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: bet he looks good in August. I mean he has 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I bet he looks good in September. He might look 69 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: good in October. My question, and we will not know 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: the answer till it comes. What will he look like 71 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: at thirty nine years old when the weather turns and 72 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: they play? And clearly the coldest division in football? Right, 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: because unlike even the NFC, what it would be the 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: NFC North, The Lions plan a dome, right, all the three, 75 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: all four teams, Pittsburgh's cold, Baltimore's cold, Cincinnati and Cleveland, 76 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: they all have outdoor stadiums, like it's unavoidable playing in 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: colder weather. So what will he look like as the 78 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: season goes on when the temperature drops? And having lived 79 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia like it's freaking cold, you know, and obviously 80 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: the Midwest, anyone listening to this nose. It's just it's 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: a different element. It's a different animal. It's harder to 82 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: stay loose, and I do think it'll be difficult. As 83 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer told me years ago. So when I first 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: tore my a c when I was younger, it was 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: easy to come back easier. It gets much more difficult 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: the older you are because your body doesn't respond to 87 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: the injuries. Remember Kobe at what thirty thirty five years old, 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: whenever he tours Achilles, he just never came back. He's 89 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: never the same, and he was in his mid thirties. Now. 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: He had a lot of wear and terror because he 91 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: come out of you know, obviously played right at high school. 92 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: But I do think there's a wear and terror element. 93 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: This guy has been in the league since two thousand 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: and five. Think about his contemporaries in that class. Eli Donne, 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: he's like, uh, you know, he's like a salesman for 96 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Philip Rivers high school football coach. 97 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: When we talk about that draft, it was three guys. 98 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: One guy's a high school football coach, the other guys 99 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: like a fundraiser, and one guy's old non for dear 100 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: life and I listen, I'm not going to be surprised 101 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: if he looks good early on. You add Nagi Harris. 102 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: They their wide receivers always play well. They win. Their 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: franchise is a high level operation. But as we saw 104 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: last year, and they're probably not gonna start ten and 105 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: oh or whatever, but it wouldn't shock me if they 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: start eight and three or something. What does it look 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: like in mid to late November and then all of 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: December and then going to the playoffs, because he clearly 109 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: wasn't the same. But I think it's understandable and if 110 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: somehow they can overcome it, it would be an incredible accomplishment. 111 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: I just know personally, I'm gonna I'm gonna be Leary 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: and I'll probably against him until he proves me wrong. Okay, 113 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: let's start with a a decision that was made by 114 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: a head coach this week that I just couldn't disagree 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: with anymore. And it's a guy I like. I think 116 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: he's the best defensive coordinator in the league. His name 117 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: is Vic Fangio. He is now the head coach, though 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: of the Denver Broncos, and a major difference between being 119 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: a coordinator and a head coach is you're the boss 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: of everyone. You don't get to just focus on half 121 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: the team. Right there, there's a big difference between like 122 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: being middle management or even like the CFO then the 123 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: CEO where the entire company. You're at the top of 124 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: the organizational food chart. Right you are the hierarchy. You're 125 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 1: at the top of the pyramid. Your decisions are really 126 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: important and sometimes you gotta make ball zy decisions. The 127 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: people I admire most in life and I try to 128 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: emulate our people in business. And this includes pro sports 129 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 1: that have dones that are not afraid to take big 130 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: swings and be wrong, because any time that you make 131 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: the tough decision, you might be wrong, and it's easy 132 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: for everyone to call you an idiot after the fact. 133 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: But I would say most of the best decisions consistently 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: in business come with a little bit of pushback, like 135 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I do that, I don't know 136 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: if that's a good idea. It's usually how it works. Right. 137 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: You can hold onto the middle of the tree just fine. 138 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: All the fruit is on the side of the branches. 139 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: You gotta crawl out there and get it. It's risky, 140 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: and if you're not willing to take risks, you're gonna 141 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: cap yourself in whatever profession you work in. Vic Fangio 142 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: took the easy route here, and here's the problem with 143 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: taking the easy route. It is a passing leak. That 144 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: are where the rules allow you to have the most 145 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: success throwing the ball deep down the field. The den 146 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: of Broncos have some legit speed demon weapons, yet they 147 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: took a quarterback and listen, this is not anti Teddy Bridgewater. 148 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: I respect the hell out of Teddy Bridgewater the person. 149 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: I once saw him at a Raider game when he 150 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: was a quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings and I think 151 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: they were a playoff team that year. Do something with 152 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: a little kid that was just really impressive, Like the 153 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: kids screamed at him like was a fan, clearly had 154 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: a jersey on. Teddy had to warm up and then 155 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: came back and found him and handed him his gloves. 156 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: And from what I heard, that's just Teddy, Like he 157 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: is a high level, high character guy. Him overcoming that 158 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: leg injury is incredible. He is, in my opinion, the 159 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: best backup in the league. When you have the best 160 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: backup in the league and you have to start him 161 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: though week one, that's a problem. Now I'm not some 162 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: huge Drew Lock apologist defender think he's the next John Elway, 163 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: but he clearly has a much higher ceiling than Teddy Bridgewater. 164 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: He clearly can make throws that Teddy Bridgewater can't do. 165 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: And the best part about having Teddy Bridgewater someone who 166 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: now has been a consistent backup for several years. He 167 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: knows how to come out of the bullpen. He's not 168 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Max Scherzer, he's not Clayton Kershaw, he's not Garrett Cole. 169 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: You don't need to name him the starter. He is 170 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: ready whenever cold upon to execute and do a good job. 171 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: He did a couple of years ago for the Saints 172 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: when they won three or four games when he had 173 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: to come in when Drew Brees hurt his thumb. But 174 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: to me, not be willing to go with Drew Lock 175 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: and see what you have because his higher end is 176 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: higher is just an unwillingness to have some balls. And 177 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio took the conservative route, and I don't always 178 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: think the conservative route is the wrong thing to do. 179 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't think just go for it to go for it. 180 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of just always going for 181 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: two depends who you're playing. Depends what the situation is. 182 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: But this situation to me was pretty black and white, 183 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: especially what I had seen just in the preseason. Now 184 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm not at every practice, but pretty clearly from reports, 185 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: if anything, it was even. But to me, you should 186 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: have just leaned with the talent because the worst case scenario, 187 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: you just go to the bullpen with Teddy Bridgewater. You 188 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: have no chance if Teddy bridgewaters to start all your 189 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: games to be a playoff team, and Vic Fangio is 190 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: fighting for his professional life. If this fails this year, 191 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: he's never gonna be a head coach again. Now he's 192 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: such a good defensive coordinator. They pay him like three 193 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: million dollars a year to be a coordinator, So it's 194 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: not about money. But like, this was his one shot 195 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: and it came later in life. Think about the two 196 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: guys that got their shot later in life. I'd say 197 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: about them both, like especially the offensive guy's got pretty 198 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: big stones, Mike Zimmer Bruce Arians, Like I watched those 199 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: those guys got some balls, and Zimmer you know is 200 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: much probably more conservative than Arians. But this is your shot. 201 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Why would you take the easy 202 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: route with Teddy Bridgewater like you, I can't feel bad 203 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: for you now when this fails, when especially you have 204 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: a pretty good team. What if your team is so 205 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: talented around and Drew Lock, maybe he matures and gets 206 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: better as the season goes that all of a sudden, 207 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: by the end of the year, you're competing for a 208 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: wild card spot. It's not possible with Teddy Bridgewater. And 209 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: it pains me to say this, but probably the beginning 210 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: of the end for Vic Fanje's the head coach of 211 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 212 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 213 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I 214 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: Heart Radio apps. Search f s R to listen live. 215 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: You know what's funny is last week after I watched 216 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: actually before I had this, I had this take I 217 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: was gonna bring to the table that I wonder if 218 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: there's a chance that Bill Belichick, who does things I 219 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: would say more consistently out of the blue over several decades, 220 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: that trades a Logan Mankins or Richard Seymour, when Nolan 221 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: sees coming Randy Moss, who has done it time and 222 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: time again, that what if he cuts Cam Newton at 223 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: the end of training camp names Mac Jones the starter 224 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: and Brian Horror the backup. Then before I recorded the 225 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: the podcast, Cam was really good and I was like, 226 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, Cam still has a lot of value short 227 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: yardage plays, right, He's an incredible running back basically and clearly, 228 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: I think we all have to admit, like the team 229 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: likes him. He's fitting well in their culture. It seems 230 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: like Bill kind of likes him. That you know, he's cheap. 231 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily get any financial relief by cutting him. 232 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you just keep him? You can do whatever 233 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: you want with him and Mac Jones. And then this 234 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: week Cam leaves to get a task, he's obviously unvaccinated, 235 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: falls under the protocols, misses a bunch of practice, and 236 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: Mac Jones also known as Mac and Cheese, you know, 237 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: dominates all week. And the one thing I'll never forget, 238 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Doc Rivers said this, he's like the moment you become 239 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: a bigger pain in the assid like your problems outweigh 240 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: your ability, we get rid of you in pro sports. 241 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: And Cam is no longer a really good quarterback right 242 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: His best attribute right now is his size and his legs. 243 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: But one thing with him, and listen, I've said over 244 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: and over I got the vaccine for business reasons, and 245 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: I had a couple of people dm me like, that's 246 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: not you shouldn't say that you should have don it 247 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: for the health of everyone around you. Well, yeah, I'm 248 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: not like most normal people. I don't want anyone to 249 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: get sick. My mom's already got a booster shot. I mean, like, 250 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: I I have the vaccine, right, but I can't pretend 251 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: I'm not a moral high horse guy. I'm not gonna 252 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: get up here because truly, I'm just being completely honest. 253 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't give a ship what other people do. I 254 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: I can't control that, so I can't. He can do 255 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: whatever the hell he wants. But I just know this 256 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: if I was Bill Belichick, and I'm just thinking, like, 257 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: do I want to deal with this because last week 258 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: he missed some last year he missed some games when 259 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: he tests positive. And as we've seen for the last 260 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: couple of years, these tests sometimes you can test positive 261 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks not even have it. It happened 262 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: last year Fortys, Trent Williams, Brandon, I you they all 263 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: miss a Thursday night game completely asymptomatic. Two days later 264 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: as false positive. But the thing with the vaccinated players 265 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: like they can bounce back and play immediately in theory, 266 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: and there's who knows. I think this year could get 267 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: weird fast. But I do think the Cam Newton status 268 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: within the New England Patriots has probably changed over the 269 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: last week and a half. And I would say that 270 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: I would not put it past Belichick to just get 271 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: rid of them and just go full on with Mac 272 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Jones as the starter and then Brian Hoyer is the backup. Now, 273 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: the one thing keeping Cam Newton alive. If he was 274 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: not a running quarterback, he'd have no chance to make 275 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: the team. But the the his one attribute as a 276 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: short yardage player is still very valuable to Belichick. I 277 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: wonder if him and McDaniels are gonna have a long 278 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: talk over the next two or three days, like how 279 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: truly valuable is that? Because the one thing you just 280 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: saw they traded Sony Michelle. They have really good running backs. 281 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to run the ball. Couldn't Mac 282 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: just hand it to the running backs? So sure, you 283 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: are situations, just go go line heavy situations, hand to them, 284 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: I would say, as I'm recording this on August and 285 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: this last week with Belichick, you know, and in the 286 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: leak a place that never leaks anything immediately the Patriots 287 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: are down and Matt Adam and just it's kind of 288 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: getting tired of this whole situation. You know why they 289 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: don't want to deal with it. One of their assistant 290 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: offensive line coaches was a Friendle State guy when I 291 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: was there, called Popovich. Belichick said, well, if you're not 292 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: getting it, you're not here. They parted ways because if 293 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: he didn't get the vaccine, that's what he did with 294 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: the coach. Now obviously an assistant offensive or he was 295 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: their offensive line coach, is not the same value as 296 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But it just shows you, like, we know 297 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: this guy's cold blooded, cold hearted. Belichick does not give 298 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: a ship and he does not want to deal avoid 299 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: any possible distractions if he can't. And when I say distraction, 300 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: I just mean like he doesn't want to find out that, 301 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, he's game planned for these plays. All of 302 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: a sudden Friday, the guy is not going to be 303 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: eligible for the next three games and he's just or 304 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean the next three days and then missed the 305 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: game or maybe two weeks and missed a couple of games, 306 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: like he's not gonna want to deal with that. I 307 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: I would say Cam Newton's job status in roster spot 308 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: has to be in question right now. Okay, let's uh, 309 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: let's discuss a coach and a story that I saw 310 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: today that I would imagine your response when you hear 311 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: my take will be like middle cooff, you have a 312 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: personal agenda, you don't like this guy personally, and let 313 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: me just get this out, uh, candidly, I not only 314 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: don't know this guy, never met him, never had an interaction. 315 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't even think I've ever known anyone who worked 316 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: for Urban Meyer, So there is zero personal Vandetta's I 317 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: truly don't care. And I'm not just trying to be 318 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: because my take was I didn't believe when he was hired. 319 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: I've just always kind of red flagged him, like I 320 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: don't care about being right or wrong right. I know 321 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Collins always used the quote for years, like I'm not 322 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: in the credit business. That's you know, for Chase or 323 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo. I'm not in the right or wrong business 324 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: I used to be when I worked in the NFL. 325 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm here to entertain you guys, whether I'm right 326 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: unless I gamble on the game. Who cares. You find 327 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying interesting great, But I truly I guess 328 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: maybe sometimes I have a bias in a positive note 329 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: with some of the guys I know. But when it's 330 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: when I'm speaking negatively on somebody because I don't think 331 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: there's good at their job, I truly feel that way. 332 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: And you know, when it comes to Urban Meyer, like 333 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: there's some weird stuff going on in Jacksonville. And Pete Risco, 334 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: who covered the Jacks forever, who works for CBS, I 335 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: think he said it on a podcast, had some interesting 336 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: quotes and I found them enlightening. He said. I've heard 337 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: some players aren't thrilled with him either, including he has 338 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: a microphone on the field. One of his assistants has 339 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: a boom mike telling everyone to hydrate and hustle to 340 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: get to the next period. Now, listen, when you are 341 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: a college head coach, you can be somewhat of a dictator. 342 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: You're making nine ten million dollars, you're the boss. You're 343 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: one of the most powerful guys in the university. In 344 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: the pros, you have several guys on your team making 345 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: what you make. You have several guys who have kids. 346 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: I was listening to pardon my take, the interview they 347 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: had with Ryan Fitzpatrick. It was really good. Fitzpatrick was 348 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: saying he has seven children. One of his kids is 349 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: going into high school. When you were around guys like 350 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, and listen, every team has them. He does 351 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: not need to be told you know which way to 352 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: you know anything. He's a pro. He can handle it. Now. 353 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: He needs an itinerary of like what times the meeting, 354 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: what time's practice. But you don't need to tell him 355 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: like every single thing to do. You don't need to 356 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: hold his hand through life. I'll never forget when Chip 357 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: Kelly got hired by the forty and his thing was smoothies. Right, 358 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: you always had a drink smoothies. Well what if Joe Staley, 359 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: who had been a several time pro bowler, or Navarro bowman, 360 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: same thing, didn't want a smoothie because that wasn't their regiment. 361 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: Let them do what they're gonna do. You can't control 362 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: everything in a professional environment. Let the guy be a pro. 363 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: Some of these people are grown ups. I don't blame 364 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: urban Meyer for having the microphone and basically screaming in 365 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: everyone what to do. Because in college, when he was 366 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: at Ohio State in Florida, even though he was on 367 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: multiple programs where the majority of the team, we're guys 368 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: that were gonna go to the NFL. That's how he 369 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: operated and that's how he had a lot of success. 370 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: It's why when I see the story about Joe Judge 371 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: constantly doing like old school things, like I'm kind of 372 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: old school as a thirty six year old guy. I 373 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: have some old school tendencies, but I also try to 374 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: balance it with being open minded and understanding as the 375 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: world changes in in any walk of life. And I think, listen, 376 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: toughness in football will always work, right. I will take 377 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: if they're equal talents, I will take the tough guy 378 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: over the pussy. Every single human listening would as well. 379 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: And I would do it in a business setting. I 380 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: would do it in any walk of life if all 381 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: other things are equal, right, if if character, good guy, 382 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: all that stuff, always lean with the tough guy mentally 383 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: and physically. But I do think some of like the 384 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: Junction Boys routine, like part of they have that hill 385 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: in New England that Bill makes him run. It's one 386 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: thing when Bill Belichick tells you to run the hill. 387 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: He has six rings. Oh and he also has two others. 388 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: You know, when he coached for Bill Parcels and he 389 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: was his defensive coordinator and coach l t He's a 390 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: long resume. When I got Joe Judge screaming at me 391 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: to run laps like I'm sorry, Like you can only 392 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: go to that well so many times. Eventually, some of 393 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: the guys on the team should just be self motivated, 394 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, because it's the pros now. I get the 395 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars are a big joke. They have a lot 396 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: of players that in theory, we should go, well, why 397 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: do we care if they're not thrilled because some of 398 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: them and I think the majority of the guys in 399 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: the NFL pretty high character and pretty high level guys, 400 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: And we'll do what they're told to do. So if 401 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: you do tell them to run, they'll run. But they're 402 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: thinking what the hell is going on here? Like I'm 403 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying my best. Tell me to play and I'll 404 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: do it. And you got urban Meyer acting like you know, 405 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: a general out there, which is his prerogative, is his right. 406 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: But I do think that's not gonna work when their 407 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: team is not talented enough and too. I just don't 408 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: think that really plays. Now. You have to be true 409 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: to yourself. I think the faster you try to be 410 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: something you're not, it will not work. So like this 411 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: is who urban Meyer is. He's being true to himself. 412 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: Say with Joe Judge, Like I don't think Joe Judge 413 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: is trying to be a fake tough guy. I think 414 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: that's what he believes it. Just like once upon a time, 415 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: Manini and Patricia did the same ship and it failed 416 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: miserably because I think it's very, very difficult to take 417 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: that stance when you're not a true badass Alzheimer. If 418 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: you're Bill Parcels, you can pull it off. If you're 419 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: Nick Saban in college, you can pull it off. Nick 420 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: Saban try it in the pros. It wasn't working that well, 421 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: not as bad as people say it did, but it 422 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: you know, it might have been difficult. I don't know 423 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: if urban myo this style is really gonna work. Right. 424 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: You could be a hard ask if you're Bruce arians 425 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: and sixty eight years old. I think it's difficult one 426 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: when you're a younger guy like Joe Judge, or to 427 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 1: urban Meyer, when you've never coached in this league. So 428 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if I'm a four, fifth, 429 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: six seventh year veteran, I go coach. I've been in 430 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: the NFL a lot longer than you, and I think 431 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: this is moronic, Like you don't need to scream at 432 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: me to hydrate. You know why I hydrate? I care. 433 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: This is my job, this is my profession, this is 434 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: how I feed my two children. One of them is 435 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: seven years old. I'm thirty three. Like, you don't need 436 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: to yell at me, and some guys need to be 437 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: yelled at. I like getting yelled at sometimes, but I 438 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: I got motivated pretty easily when I got yelled at. 439 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: It woke me up. Some people don't. Now sometimes I 440 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: went and do like it pissed me off too, but 441 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: it didn't bother me as much. But not everyone needs 442 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: to be coached like that. And I just wonder, like 443 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: if this thing, like it's just already kind of weird 444 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: now and they had bad luck. E. T n shatters 445 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: his foot or whatever, Liz Frank like, that's bad luck. 446 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: But I'd go, why was he even on your team 447 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: in the first place? But he was the third running back? 448 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: What the hell were you doing? Picking him. Now, I 449 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: know that had nothing to do with him getting injured, 450 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 1: but it just does feel like some weird vibes out 451 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: of Jacksonville. I I don't even think that's debatable. And 452 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: and it starts with the headman who it's just you know, 453 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know for a guy that's really tense, not 454 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: Mr Just he never relaxes. I just I'm out. Okay, 455 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: let's go middlecoff mail back at John Middlecopp is the 456 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: Instagram and uh and yeah, start in my d M. 457 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: You slide up in there and you get answered here 458 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: on the show. This is basically just a compliment. Started 459 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: listening to a podcast three months ago, I learned a 460 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: lot about football, So thank you. Appreciate the entertainment and 461 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: your knowledge. It looks like this Joshua was a doctor. 462 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: We like. Um, it's impressive, Joshua. I don't think I 463 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: would have lasted long in medical school. Colts fan here, 464 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: big fan of the pod. I'm a junior of ball 465 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: State reigning mac champs. I feel you, little maction. I 466 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: have a couple of buddies on the team, and yesterday 467 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: one of them told me a scout from the Ravens 468 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: came to practice. As this former scout, I was wondering 469 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: what did you look for in a player when you 470 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: went to watch college practice and what does that day 471 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: of practice slash on campus look like for scouts? What 472 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: are you trying to learn find? Well, if you go 473 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: to a place like ball State, you have a list, 474 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: so you know the draftable players on their team, and 475 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: a place like ball State may only have a couple, 476 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: so you go there, Right, If you go to Oklahoma 477 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: or Alabama, they're gonna have draftable guys in theory, right, 478 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: and potentially five six guys that are top fifty picks. 479 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: So when you go to a place like that, it's 480 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: much more intense, right, you gotta be locked into all 481 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: the top guys body type practice habits. Obviously when you 482 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: go to school. When I went iPads, we're getting bigger. 483 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: So you had to watch film at campus, which I 484 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: still think. Obviously last year with Corona didn't happen, but 485 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: that's still a part of the day. But I can 486 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: imagine the film watching has changed a lot. Typically you 487 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: use the day for forever and scouting up until the 488 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: last four or five years to watch film at campus 489 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: and then you met with a pro liaison so ball 490 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: State has a pro liaison. It could be a football 491 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: administrative guy, or it could be like a coach or 492 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: a strength coach. You sit down with that I you 493 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: go over the list of every guy that's a draftable player. 494 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: And when I say go over, you go over their 495 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: character stuff, their background, Where is he from, what's his 496 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: parents like, where's his brothers and sisters? How is he recruited, 497 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: what's he been like since he's been here. Nick Saban 498 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: went on a rant the other day about this is 499 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: not a democracy. He's like, every day these scouts come, 500 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: they're watching you, and they're watching like, are you half 501 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: acid in practice? Are you screwing around? Or either front 502 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: of the line. When I meet with your assistant coaches, 503 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, he's the most attentive guy in the meeting. 504 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Or you know, I don't even think he likes football 505 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: that much. So you're trying to acquire all this information 506 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: because that practice you're you're not gonna make like a 507 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: football evaluation because that comes off the tape. Now, what 508 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: does matter is his size, what he looks like, Hey, 509 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: this guy looks like an NFL player, especially at a 510 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: smaller school like ball State. Even though I know they're 511 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: mac champs. Like in Alabama, if you're starting wide receiver, 512 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: it's like, I know you're good enough, right, But at 513 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: Ball State you might be like a little slot receiver. 514 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: But we think he might be draftable. What's his body type? 515 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Is he skinny? Is he is he ripped up? Does 516 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: he have a big ass? You know, if he's an 517 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. These are type things that you you do 518 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: and you just picked the brain of people a practice. 519 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: You're just always trying to acquire information. I was, I've 520 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: rewatched the wire the last couple of weeks. I do 521 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of parallels in being a 522 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: good scout, especially a college scout, as being a detective. 523 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Now there's more on the line being a detective when 524 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: you're you know, trying to figure out who murders somebody. 525 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: So as a scout, you're there's not acting like the 526 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: same level of importance in society, but the same mindset, 527 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: following leads, uncovering things, always looking for more information, being 528 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: very inquisitive, being naturally pretty curious, being able to put 529 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: the puzzle together. Uh, just always trying to find out information. 530 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I think if they got a 531 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: scout there more than likely the Ravens have a draftable 532 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: player you know on their team or like you know 533 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: in their system. As a Lions fan, I have heavy 534 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: concerns with Jeff Okuda after watching the two preseason games. 535 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: He recently got burned by Big Ben on the forty 536 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: three yard uh punt in which he trailed five to 537 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: four yards in coverage and gave up another big play 538 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: to the Bills. There has been a ton of press 539 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: in Detroit talking about how he has improved in camp, 540 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: but given how bad the Lions receivers are, I'm not 541 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: buying it. Given he was chosen third overall the Quintrica era, 542 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: how patients should Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes be with him? 543 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: He was rated the worst corner by PFF last year. 544 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: Ps coming from someone who has watched every throw Stafford 545 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: made in his career, the way the ball came out 546 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: of his hands versus golf is night and day. She's 547 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: looks like golf is throwing pillows. That's funny. Well, I 548 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean Matt Stafford is like you know, I mean 549 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: it would be the equivalent. I'm just think of a 550 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: baseball pitcher that throws like and then Jared Goffs the 551 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: guy that throws. So yeah, I mean it's just watching 552 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: the ball come out of their hands. It's dramatically different. 553 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: I'll never forget leaving Fresno State and Derek Carr had 554 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: not even started playing yet. He was a red shirt freshman. 555 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: Actually he was like he played his freshman year but 556 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: it didn't and then he red shirt his second year. 557 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: But I remember going from Derek and practice to Kevin Cobb, 558 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: like you can either spin it at a high level 559 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: or you can't, and thinking, like, God, Derek car is 560 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: a much better arm than this guy. It's it's just 561 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: it's wild to tell. And once you've seen a high 562 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: level guy throw, it's pretty glaring. The Okuda thing you 563 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: just got to ride out, right. That was last year, 564 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: So he's going into a second year. To me, he's 565 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: got two more years, right you just after his third year, 566 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: you just might not pick up a fifth year option. 567 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: It's not your fault, but what else he gonna do. 568 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: He was drafted third overall. To me, if I was 569 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell and Aaron Glenn, the defensive back coach who 570 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: comes from the Saints, I'm just trying to figure out 571 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: how to improve this player. Worst case scenario, he doesn't 572 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: fit your scheme. Maybe you can trade him. But the 573 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: problem is are you trading the third overall pick after 574 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: this season for like a fourth round pick? Maybe not. 575 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: I just be patient. Write it out. Question. Harry Kane 576 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: mentioned in an interview he wants to become an NFL 577 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: field goal kicker with his soccer career. When a soccer 578 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: career is over, is he required to enter the NFL 579 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: draft or could he sign anywhere? I'm pretty sure he 580 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: could enter. You could just you know, signed as a 581 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: free agent, right. It happens with you know, track guys. 582 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: When they bring him into a camp. It's like an 583 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, as a free agent type. I'd have to 584 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: ask someone in the league, but I'm pretty sure he 585 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: could just he would not have to go in the draft. 586 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Will you remember Gronk is a Patriot or a buccaneer Patriots. 587 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: As a lifelong Packers fan, do you think Rogers will 588 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: play for Green Bay next season? I would say I 589 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: would lean yes. He's on the Packers next season, not 590 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: somewhere else. Now, see how this season goes, if they lose, 591 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: if he's piste off. Every time I watch him, he 592 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: seems really happy. His best friends are on the team? 593 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Back to you, are he's under contract? If they resigned 594 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, they're loaded? What what? The Lions are a 595 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: complete rebuild, the Vikings are just not as good as them, 596 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: and the Bears are in a transitional period. Why would 597 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: he leave? Now? The Denver Broncos would be pretty loaded 598 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: with him. If you put him on the Denver Broncos, 599 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: they'd be legit. But are they gonna fire Fan Jo? 600 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: Who's their head coach? He I know and he knows 601 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: we all know. If he's on the Packers, they're legit. 602 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: So what why would he risk that? Hello? John On 603 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: from Mexico. Here's a question. We close every February often 604 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: with the same lesson about how important intangibles are, even 605 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: over stats, talent, flashes, momentum, etc. On an extremely early 606 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: and limited assessment, What do you think? Who do you 607 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: think is the best intangibles from the rookie quarterback class 608 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: and who has the worst? Uh? That's hard for me 609 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: to I think this class was a pretty high intangible class. 610 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was perfect off the field, right. Zach Wilson 611 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: was probably the question mark of the group because early 612 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: on in his career by U, there are question marks 613 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: about him as a teammate, him as a leader. It 614 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: wasn't all good Trey Lance at zero, like Trevor Lawrence 615 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: checked every box. Justin Fields or Lasky said, the one 616 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: thing I could the worst thing I ever heard about 617 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is you know, early on in his career, 618 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: who was a five star guy and acted a little 619 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: tool for school, but then in Ohio State that was 620 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: not the case. So it's like Justin Fields and the 621 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: people of Chicago they love the guy and Mac Jones 622 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: perfect character. Besides, you got a d y's first year 623 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: in college. But you know, I'd be you know, I 624 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: could have got a d u I in high school. 625 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: I got pulled over in front of my house and 626 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: parents were up and I got lucky. So it's like 627 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: I'd be would be like, oh my god, he should 628 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: he can't be a good guy. I know a lot 629 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: of people did that a lot of success. I got 630 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: a d Y. I'm not pro drinking and driving, but like, 631 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. He got a d 632 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: u I and he's been perfect ever since. Like it's 633 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: happened to a lot of humans. Uh So I would, 634 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: I'd put them all pretty high up in the group. 635 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: I would. I would say Zack Wilson based on his 636 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, college career, if you were rating, would be 637 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: last of the group. But the the four main guys 638 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: now and I don't. I think Zack Wilson was good 639 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: last year, and I think it's in. I haven't heard 640 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: anything bad yet, so pretty high level class Broncos fan 641 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: of love the show. We often hear stories about veteran 642 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: play is being able to tell if a rookie can 643 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 1: play in the league within two practices? Is it similar 644 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: to head coaches? Can players tell if a coach is 645 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: good or bad that quickly? You know? I've only been 646 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: around on a daily basis when I was allowed inside 647 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: Pat Hill and Andy Reid? And I know this as 648 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: someone from the outside who didn't know either one of 649 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: them till I was around him. You around him both 650 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: for a day or two or a week, You're like, goddamn, 651 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: that's what a head coach looks like. I mean, Coach 652 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: Hill just had this like kind of swag and toughness 653 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: to him, and Andy was just so good with the players. 654 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: It still is. I don't know. I mean, i I'm jaded, 655 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: like I've only seen it too, and now I've seen 656 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: it from the media standpoint. Like I saw Dennis Allen, 657 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this isn't gonna work. I saw Tom Seula, 658 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work. But I saw hardballs, like, yeah, 659 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: this works. I saw del Rio, I was like, yeah this. 660 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: I thought del Rio is pretty solid, ran a pretty 661 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: high level practice. Same with Kyle Shanahan. I never got 662 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: to see a Gruden practice. Wasn't allowed into the facility 663 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: by then. But I mean on the outside, I think 664 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: it's easier to judge inside. I don't know. I've only 665 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: worked for two coaches that are good. We're good, you know, 666 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: one of them still probably, you know, might have the 667 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: best team in the league. And Pat Hill was a stud. 668 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: Pet Hill ironically actually recruited Andy Reid. He told me 669 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: the story one time Andy did when Pat recruited him. Andy, 670 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: I think, was playing at a junior college and shattered 671 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: his leg in a game and Pat showed up at 672 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: the he was coaching for Utah, showed up at the 673 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: hospital to try to recruit Andy. Andy ended up going 674 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: to b y U. But that was my connection. When 675 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: I Pat Hill called Andy Reid and got me the interview, 676 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: and then I interviewed with Howie. That was kind of 677 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: the connection there. Hi, John, My goal is to be 678 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: in life is to become an NFL scout like you were. 679 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: I'm a senior at Tulane and if recently sat down 680 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: with the director of player Personnel for Tulane to discuss 681 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: me working for him. We agreed that I come in 682 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: twice a week once the program is allowed to talk 683 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: to the net class of recruits to help them with 684 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: the process of doing things like entering info into the system. 685 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm very pumped. That's badass. Congrats. I've also been in 686 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: an NFL Draft college football scout for the network covering 687 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. Would love to get in touch with you 688 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: and hear about your journey. Give you my email listen. 689 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: A lot of people have asked me how to get 690 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: into football, and my experience is very similar to what 691 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna try to do. If you can get in 692 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: with a college football program, that is the easiest way 693 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: in because all college football programs, especially Division one, you know, 694 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: programs will have NFL talent on their team, and with 695 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: NFL talent on their team, scouts will come in and 696 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: you'll be able to meet guys, so you're already you're 697 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: in good shape, work with them, do whatever you can do. 698 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: You know, be available, go, you know, be over the top, 699 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: give your time, say when do you need me? Hell, 700 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: I'd even shoot him. Hey, any any help recruiting you 701 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: need during the season. That's what That's my recommendation. It's 702 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: not as glamorous those it looks on TV. I think 703 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: that much. As a Chiefs fan, I haven't heard many 704 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: people talk about Geron Reid this offseason. I've heard great things, 705 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: but have never seen him play. Uh, and don't know 706 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: how much of an impact he could have on R 707 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: D line. What can the Chiefs expect from him this season? Honestly, 708 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: I I can't answer that. Uh. I always I kind 709 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: of liked him coming out of college, and clearly you 710 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: got drafted. I think what was he first? Know? He's 711 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: a second round pick um from Alabama guy twenty two 712 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: career sacks. Yeah, I mean I not bad depth. I 713 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: mean you guys will go as I mean, Chris Jones, 714 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: your star, Frank Clark not in trouble yet, you know, 715 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: for the Lamborghini machine gun deal. So if he can 716 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: just be a solid role player. It's pretty good, pretty 717 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: solid line. I love your take on betting team totals. 718 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: It makes no sense someone would gamble one unit on 719 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: a team total if you think the team will go 720 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: over most likely you've locked looked at their schedule and 721 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: pick games they'll win. Why not just bet one unit 722 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: every week you think that team will win, and if 723 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: you're right on the total, you'll come out much further ahead. 724 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. This is my logic. 725 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: I love this. See this is why we talk it through. 726 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: If you believe in a team total, if your unit 727 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: is a hundred dollars like, for example, a hundred dollars 728 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 1: like a unit for me, I would have to bet 729 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: probably a thousand dollars to make it even interesting for me. 730 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't want to just have to be out 731 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: of thousand dollars for four months with only the return 732 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: of making a thousand dollars back. At least if I 733 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: invest a thousand dollars in the stock market, that might 734 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: turn into two or three on top of the one. 735 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: So I'm with you. As a football fan that doesn't 736 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: really have a favorite team, these bets give you a 737 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: reason to root for a team total, and I agree 738 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: if you are emotionally tied to a team or want 739 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: to hate watch a team, I will never pooh pooh 740 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: a fan that wants to bet against a team. So 741 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: if you want to hate a team and bet they're under, 742 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 1: that would probably be pretty fun, so I I would 743 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 1: not hate on that strategy. Have a great weekend. Football 744 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: is almost here. I think we got a couple of 745 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: college football games this weekend. Um, let's just let's just 746 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: enjoy life. Let's rock and roll and uh, I'll see 747 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: you guys next week. Peace.