1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters, But is that 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: a crime? 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: And Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews. 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: In England, he'd go to jail for that. Here in America, 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: did he commit a hate crime? Listen to Too Many 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: Lawyers on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: The John Annick and Kenny Florian podcasts. Guy, John Annick, 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Kenny Florian, do you want a podcast? Great? Say have 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: some audio on your website that nobody goes to. He 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: you're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 3: Every time I hear gangsters in the show. Oh, I 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: just think there's so many better adjectives are probably more 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: appropriate adjectives to describe at least one of the hosts 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: of this fine program. Oh, it's going to be back 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: in the great state of flo Or to Monday, March second, 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, episode two thirty nine of the Anakin Florian 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: podcast Fresh Off a Plane with three Children. Oh, this 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: morning I'm not doing like the cross country LA to 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: South Carolina tip that you're doing that might not even 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 3: be direct at times. So much respect to to team 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: Florian out there flying coast to coast, but uh, just 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: nothing easy about the three kids on a plane. I tweeted, 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: I think I'd rather snakes on a plane than have 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: three kids on a plane and have the. 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 4: Three kids be by Dude, I can't even imagine. Uh, 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: that's that's that's gotta be tough. That's gotta be tough. 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: Man, not easy. So thankfully Hunter, my son, who's a 32 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: year and a half, was quite good man. You know, Yeah, 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: tough kid. I mean, if he gets scared, he's upset, 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: but he's you know, pretty pretty high pain threshold and 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: I powered through it. So uh a lot to get 36 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: to today. It's a pay per view week, so much 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: of the next hour will be focused on UFC two 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: forty eight out of Sonya versus Romero, and in terms 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: of the way the Middleway Champion pronounces his name, We're 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: gonna sit down with him on Thursday and we're gonna 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: get a final answer once and for all. We have 42 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: his audio file for you today. He's been at Asanya 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: obviously as a champion in the UFC. Now I'm hearing 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: him except awards and says aya, So I'm freaking out 45 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: here on a Monday of pay per view week. A 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: little insight into my brain right now, I mean, ken Flow, 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: what are we doing here with this? 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: And I remember at one point he was like, uh, 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: you pronounce it like a dis on you, like a 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: dis on you. 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: Uh, And now it's all over the place. 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, because sometimes it's like, well, I'm 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: gonna say it how you know my countrymen say it, 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: or I'm gonna say it how you know the native 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: speakers would say it what my family name is in 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: that country, which are two very different things, you know. 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: So uh, yeah, Florian's a pretty easy one, right if 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: he could say your name to tape Kenny Florian Florian. 59 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then but in Peru would be like Flodian. 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: So I mean, how are you gonna do so? 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 3: So the doctor gus, your father didn't want you to 62 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: be Floatian. In the USA, Yah's Florian. I guess American 63 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: people say to me like, oh, is it a nique. 64 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it's fine, right, Like a lot of 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: people just don't care and I think maybe out of 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 3: Sonia falls into that group. We'll find out though, but yes, 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: I do believe where I've heard it most recently, he's 68 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: emphasizing that second syllable death Sonya, and not out of 69 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: Sonya the third one. So rest assured, we try very 70 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: hard to get it right. But a quick thought on 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: the flyweight title fight before we get to Ray Longo, 72 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: who will obviously join in on the discussion. So Davison 73 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: Figuretto misses weight by two and a half pounds. If 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: you follow Kenflow on Twitter, as many of you do, 75 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: he can't see any excuse for the weight miss but 76 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: the fight itself went to Figuretto TKO of Joseph Benavitez 77 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: in round two. Figuretto not title eligible for that vacant 78 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: belt because he missed the championship weight. So we are 79 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: where we were last Monday. The flyweight title in the 80 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: UFC is still vacant. 81 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: I've talked about this before, and you know, when a 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: guy doesn't make a weight and he's a pound and 83 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: a half or two pounds or whatever it is, you think, well, 84 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: that's just you know, a pound away. What's the big deal. 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: People don't cut that weight because it's not just a pound. 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: It feels like it's thirty pounds away after you've done 87 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: a big cut, and when you make that extra pound 88 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: two pound cut, it does a number on your body. 89 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: It does a number on your brain, physically, spiritually. It 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: can break a lot of guys. That's why they don't 91 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: make the weight. The fact that he didn't make that 92 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: weight and kind of went in there may have saved 93 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 4: him a little bit as far as his ability to 94 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: perform on fight night. That is my big problem with this. 95 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 4: This is a guy who is a tough fighter. He's 96 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: already huge for the weight class. He looked so much 97 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: bigger than Benavitez, and you know, you gotta wonder if 98 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: he did make that weight, how would that have affected 99 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 4: his performance on fight night. And you know, again, granted, 100 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: you know we've all been around Joe Benavitez. We love 101 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: the guy, and we're a little bit biased, but this 102 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: has nothing to do with whether he's fighting him or 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: anything else. When you have a championship fight, you have 104 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: to make that weight. There's a reason why you don't 105 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: get that extra pound allowance. Championship weight is a whole 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: different ballgame. 107 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: You gotta hit it otherwise it's a huge advantage, and 108 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: going down from one twenty seven and a half to 109 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: one twenty five, to your point, very well could have 110 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: broken Figuretto spiritually or physically to an extent that would 111 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: have affected him on fight night. I certainly credit the 112 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: teams when they stop their fighters from cutting weight when 113 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: they're physically challenged to such a degree that their health 114 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: is in jeopardy. So I defend the decision, even with 115 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: championship stakes for the team. But obviously it adds a 116 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: wrinkle to this whole fight that we would not like 117 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: to be dealing with here on a Monday. But let 118 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: us bring on the great Raylano into the conversation. Let's 119 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 3: get to the Ray Long Minute. 120 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: Now, time for the Ray Long Minute. 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to punch a hole in the. 122 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: Ray Long Minute during Rayne, John Nik and Kenny Florian podcast. 123 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: Ray always good to have you, my man, and we 124 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: don't take your appearances lightly. You've been with Ken Flow 125 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: when he was in the trenches through some of these 126 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: these terrible treacherous weight cuts. You've documented some of those 127 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: interactions that Ken Flow barely remembers. What were your thoughts 128 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: when you heard the news on Friday that Davis and 129 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: Figuretto not not only misweight for the championship fights, but fight, 130 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: I should say, but by a full two and a 131 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: hook there. 132 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you what I mean. I agree with 133 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 5: Kenny one hundred and twenty percent what he was just saying. 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's a big advantage. You know, these 135 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 5: guys aren't three hundred pounds. Yeah, one hundred and twenty five. 136 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 5: So that's that's three pounds is way harder to do 137 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 5: than if you're one hundred and seventy pounds. You know 138 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 5: what I mean, It's proportionally harder. Uh, And I agree 139 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 5: also with you with the team. Uh, you know, making 140 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 5: a decision, look to help health and safety has. 141 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: To come first. 142 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 5: But with that, you can't be gloating about the vicar either. 143 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 5: You can say after the victory, look, I'm happy he's healthy, 144 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 5: he won the fight, but that's it. Don't walk around 145 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 5: saying you're the champion, because you're really not the champion, 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 5: and you're the champion of one twenty eight if that's 147 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 5: what you want to be, which right a wait list, 148 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. If you want to say 149 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: you're the champion, say I'm the one twenty eight pounds champion. 150 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: I like, yeah, and for better and for Benavidez, that 151 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: would go a step further. You know, I agree with you, 152 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: John on that whole thing about the safety of the fighter. 153 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: But if you ask Joe Joe Benavidez if he would 154 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: like to not cut those extra two and a half pounds, 155 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: I'm sure he would happily take that. He suffered down 156 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: to make one hundred and twenty five pounds and his 157 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: opponent didn't, no doubt, And that's the problem. It's like this, 158 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: one guy who did it was not fun, made it 159 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: one twenty five. 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: The other guy did not. 161 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's about safety, but one guy did it, 162 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: the other guy didn't, and I'm sure Joe didn't. 163 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't a walk in the park for the guy. 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: Yeah it maybe maybe next fight, Benavidez gets to come 165 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: in at one twenty eight and the other guy has 166 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 5: to come in at one and again. And I agree 167 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: with Chenny. I don't think you're gonna find a nicer 168 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 5: guy in the sports than Joe Benavidez and his wife. 169 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: You know, they're both just sweethearts. I think everybody loves 170 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 5: them and and that you know that that doesn't take 171 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: I'm not taking away anything from the guy's performance, but 172 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: the way thing was a was a big issue. And 173 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 5: and it's funny, man, I had a girl, a trained 174 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 5: who's Brazilian said during that interview that figure row with 175 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: the manager of Validge was wasn't even saying what he 176 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: was saying. He was saying what he wanted to say 177 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 5: to do damage control. She said, had nothing to do 178 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 5: with what the other guy was saying. You you could 179 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 5: even see they got into a confrontation where I think 180 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 5: I think Villeged told him to shut up or you know, 181 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: let him let him talk, something like that. But uh yeah, 182 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 5: I think the whole thing, you know, it just taints 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 5: a division that really needed a clear winner and with 184 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 5: no no glitches, and we didn't get it. Now we're 185 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 5: we're back in limbo again. 186 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: Kenny fighters are so discouraged in this situation from stepping 187 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: aside and not fighting right, like for Joe to be like, look, 188 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: I'm not going to fight the guy right it's a 189 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: headlining fight. And for Benevitez, obviously he would have been 190 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: the UFC flyweight champion had he won that fight. But 191 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: there are promotions that are out there that if you 192 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: don't make weight, you don't fight, And I'm not sure 193 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: I see any solution, right, because you shouldn't put Benavitez 194 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: in a position to be roundly criticized by the fan base, 195 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: you know, and pressured by the promotion to fight, right, 196 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: so you knew Joe was going to fight regardless given 197 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: what was on the line. There are a lot of 198 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: layers to this, but Ray, I mean, do you think 199 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: that that is a reasonable scenario or solution that if 200 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: you don't make weight you can't compete? Uh? You know that. 201 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 5: I mean, look, obviously there's a lot, Like you said, 202 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 5: there's a lot of layers to it, and making money 203 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 5: is one of them. I mean, that would have just 204 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 5: killed That would have killed that whole event. You know, 205 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 5: there's a possibility to maybe always pay a standby to 206 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 5: be ready to go, you know, just have insurance, pay 207 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 5: a guy some money to make sure that he's ready 208 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 5: to go. But then I don't even think that's right 209 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: because then you can't really gain plan for that guy. 210 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 5: But you know, it's still a fight. Yeah, but you 211 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: know what I mean. But I think having a guy ready, 212 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 5: like I'm sure they'll do what Abasania and Romero. Uh, 213 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 5: you know, I just don't think they put a lot 214 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 5: of a lot behind the one twenty five pounds division 215 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 5: or I think they did that, you. 216 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: Know, right, so quickly and Kenny, you can lead on 217 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: this and Ray, I want to get your thoughts just 218 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: quickly on the fight itself. Kenny, all due respect, you 219 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: did not seem very convicted picking your friend Joseph Benavitez 220 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: on the show last week. You didn't like the matchup 221 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: for him, which you said off the top. So I 222 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 3: don't know if this fight played out maybe the way 223 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: you expected it to. But Figaro Figarota to me weight 224 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: miss or otherwise. Uh, he's a real problem and has 225 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of intriguing skills in his arsenal. 226 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: I mean he he is. He's huge for the weight class. 227 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: My big concern with Joe is offensively, he charges straight 228 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: into a guy. He never moves his head, and he 229 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: gets away with a lot of those entries because he 230 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: is very fast. 231 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: He is very quick. 232 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: He throws a lot of different combinations. But you can't 233 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: charge headfirst into into a person's center line and expect 234 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: to win every single exchange. You just can't and a 235 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: guy who is as dangerous and you know, Frankly gives 236 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: zero fox when he goes out there and fights Davison. 237 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: Figuedo does not care. He wants to get into a brawl. 238 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: He knows he's gonna hit harder than pretty much ninety 239 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 4: nine percent of the guys in that division, and he'll 240 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 4: happily let Joe charge in. And for the majority of 241 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: those exchanges, Joe Benevidez, his speed was the difference. But 242 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: when Figaredo was tagging him, almost every single time he landed, 243 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: he was hurting Joe. And that was my big concern 244 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: going forward, was that this is a guy in Figaredo 245 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: who it just hits with so much anger and power 246 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: and just was was just hurting Joe in a lot 247 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: of those exchanges. And the big problem is also, you know, 248 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: opposite those opposite stance fighters, and because Joe really wasn't 249 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: moving his head, they kept colliding heads. There was two 250 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: head collisions one after another, and it was it was 251 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: clearly uh Benevetez who got the worst of those, and 252 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 4: then it allowed Figaredo to really land that big shot 253 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: and then the hammer the hammer fist after was brutal 254 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 4: as well. 255 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray that headbutt that opened the cut. You know, 256 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: Joe was the guy leading with his head obviously for 257 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: that seventh the blow. What are your thoughts on the fight? 258 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 5: No, I think Kenny's ready. Look I look for first off, 259 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: while it lasted, I thought it was a great fight. 260 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 5: Even the scrambles on the floor getting out of the arboard, 261 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 5: it was a lot of you know, back and forth. 262 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 5: I thought ben Vitez was doing good. To me, it 263 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 5: looked like a guy that was even though he was 264 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 5: leaving with his head, which obviously became a downfall because 265 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 5: I do think the headbutt distracted him enough that he 266 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 5: just wasn't you know, he wasn't focused when that right 267 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 5: hand came, So it wasn't like he got he he 268 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 5: didn't pay for coming in with his head at that time. 269 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 5: He just he paid for it with the headbutt, and 270 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 5: then I think it distracted him enough to where he 271 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 5: just you know, you could see that right hand he 272 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 5: didn't move his head at all and he just got 273 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 5: sat on his ass. But uh, I thought I thought 274 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 5: it looked like Benavetez was like, this is this is 275 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: my last shot, and he was going for it. I 276 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 5: think that's what we saw the guy that was eat 277 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 5: it like again, he didn't give any folks, and he 278 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 5: was going forward. Yeah, he was leaning in with his head, 279 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: which I think, you know was a big part of 280 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 5: why he lost because of that headbutt. But uh, man, 281 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 5: it was exciting and I loved watching the guy know 282 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 5: that this is his last opportunity against a really bigger, 283 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: tough guy and he was going for it. Man, So 284 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 5: hats off to Benavetez. Man really really was uh. I 285 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 5: loved watching that fight. 286 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 4: What made me even more concerned was the fact that, 287 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: you know, the Brazilian fighter Davison Figaredo, he tends to 288 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: fight like he doesn't have a care in the world. 289 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: He's absolutely fearless when he fights. He still kept that 290 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: with him despite not making weight. He just like it 291 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: didn't even happen. Whereas all the pressure was on Benavitez. 292 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 4: He was the only guy who could win that belt. 293 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 4: The only thing that was going to happen was he 294 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: was going to lose it. So essentially it was almost 295 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 4: like sitting there for the taking, and you could see 296 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 4: that pressure in Joe. There was a lot of nervousness 297 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: despite all the experience walking into that cage. I just 298 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: got that much more nervous for Joe. It just seemed 299 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: like he was carrying the weight of the world on 300 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: his shoulders. 301 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: Man. And I think he would tell you as much 302 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: if you saw him last June. I know it was 303 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: a long time agoing against Juicy a Foriga though. He 304 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: didn't even want to eat after the way in because 305 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: he was just so angry and hungry for a win. 306 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: And when you saw he look like an assassin in there, 307 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: just at the beginning of that fight. He didn't have 308 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: that look in his eyes for one reason or another. 309 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: And maybe it is nerves, but Kenny, I think you 310 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: hit on every viable and angle of that fight. Ray 311 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: real quick, because I want to get to a few 312 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: other things with you today. Did you see the fight 313 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: between Magomed and Goliath and Ewan Kutelba, the controversial light 314 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: heavyweight fight that ended in thirty eight seconds there? 315 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, of course I did. Yeah, And I really, 316 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 5: uh man, that's a you know again, that's a time. 317 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 5: I mean, that's just a horrible call. But you know, 318 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 5: I think that too. I like McDonald, he's a nice guy. 319 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: But I think to his defense, in his head, he 320 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: really thought he was doing the right thing. He thought 321 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 5: the guy was heard and he was trying to save him. 322 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: But man, I just I didn't see it. Man I 323 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: knew he was playing possum, and even if he wasn't, 324 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 5: that fight shouldn't have been stopped. 325 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the way it is, Kenny. I 326 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: talked to a mixed martial arts referee that does major 327 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: UFC shows this morning, because anytime something controversial like this happens, 328 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: I'm trying to gather information as a play by play 329 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: voice for the UFC. Right, I want to be as 330 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: informed as possible, even if I forget half of this 331 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: shit when it shows up what I've actually sitting with 332 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: the goddamn table. But this referee said to me, and 333 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: he wasn't necessarily trying to defend Kevin McDonald, sure, but 334 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: he did say that maybe this isn't the best sport 335 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: in which to play possum. You know, kute Laba was 336 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: a plus two twenty five underdog. Maybe he was trying 337 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: to inject this variable into the fight against ank Eliab. 338 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: I think the reason that possum angle has juice is 339 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: because Bisping sort of led that narrative and led that 340 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: charge on broadcast. You know, kute Laba certainly said that's 341 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: what he was doing. It appeared to me largely at 342 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: times that that's what he was doing. Kenny, But what 343 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: do you think about playing possum in in two hundred 344 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: and five pounds puts alone? 345 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: Probably not the best of ideas. Again, these are little gloves. 346 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 4: So when someone gets clipped and you see their head 347 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: kind of bob or maybe their legs wobble a little bit, 348 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: you know the referee is gonna pay extra special attention there. 349 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: And I feel like he did that a few times 350 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: in a row after a strike from uncliev so I 351 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: think it made it look bad. And again, this is 352 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: the thing, something that's happening in the moment, and the 353 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: referees trying to assess what the damage is, what's going on, 354 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: and maybe his angle isn't always the best one right 355 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: from where he's watching the fight. So it is a 356 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 4: tricky thing. This is what makes refereeing such a difficult 357 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: thing in mixed martial arts. But I would say even 358 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: if he was hurt, and this is the unfortunate thing 359 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: for Kevin McDonald is you know, I think it's one 360 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 4: thing to be in the center of the octagon and 361 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: be throwing. It's another thing to be up against the 362 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 4: cage and maybe being wobbled and like trying to throw 363 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: and you're just you don't even know where you are. 364 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: You could see that Unclia was still kind of in it, 365 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: and when you went back and watched the replay, it 366 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 4: was way more clear that it did look. 367 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 3: Like he was playing possum. So it's unfortunate. Man. 368 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: You know, Kevin has been one of the more consistent 369 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: referees in the UFC. I mean, this is a guy 370 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: who's been able to fly under the raidar and when 371 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: you're doing that as a referee, that means you're doing 372 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: a tremendous job. So I can't point to another instance 373 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: where he's made a mistake in his UFC's Thus far, 374 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: as far as you know, I know this was a mistake. 375 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: It happens. It sucks because both guys were really ramping up. 376 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: There was this crescendo that was building in this fight. Man, 377 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 4: that was so good, and both guys were throwing with 378 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: so much violence it was it was tough to see 379 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 4: that fight end like it did. 380 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: Ray Kevin's a friend of mine. I think he would 381 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: own parts of this mistake and maybe in the future 382 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: show a little bit more restraint when a guy is 383 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: drunk driving, so to speak, like that three or four times, 384 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: but a referee, to Kenny's point, or a broadcaster, like 385 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 3: every time we utter something, you know, over seven hours, 386 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: it's out there. We can't take it back, right, And 387 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: once he engaged, even if there was a verbal stop 388 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: in kute Laba, then through the Haymaker. I think if 389 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 3: you're the referee, you see that a guy's brain is misfiring. 390 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: A couple times ray right, and the third time he 391 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: saw his eyes maybe go or whatever. You know, he 392 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: just felt like he had to be decisive. But I 393 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 3: think he'll probably learn from it and the next time around. 394 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: Don't want a late stoppage, but maybe he would be 395 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 3: a little bit more precise at that moment, you know. 396 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, at the end of the day, he got 397 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 5: faked out also, really, but I think what saves Kevin 398 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 5: McDonald is that I think his heart was in the 399 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 5: right spot. Yeah, there wasn't you know what I'm saying, 400 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 5: It wasn't. There wasn't nothing malicious, There was nothing you know, 401 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: fucker rio whatever you want. He really thought he was 402 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 5: making the right call. He got faked out and quickly 403 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 5: I had a kid, Dennis Bezuka win a ring A 404 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 5: Combat championship two weeks ago, and he had closed the 405 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 5: guy's eye, so his right eye was closed and Dennis 406 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 5: was attacking him, and he started holding his eye like 407 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 5: you know, he was stopping. He put one hand up 408 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 5: and like the rep almost a saint, like he was done. 409 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 5: And I really thought he was done sitting on the outside. 410 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: So my guy stopped hitting him, and the guy attacked him. 411 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 5: So this positive thing, you know, like again he tried. 412 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: He faked me out. I mean I really thought because 413 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 5: I saw his eye was and I thought he just said, man, 414 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 5: I had enough. I just got hit with a combo 415 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: and I can't see. And that fight ended up going 416 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 5: the distance. But you know, another three seconds like that 417 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: are two seconds that re's gonna stop the fight. But 418 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 5: you know, well whatever, hey, it's it's it's a tough 419 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: one for Kevin because again I believe his heart was 420 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: in the right spot. He thought he was making the 421 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 5: right cool and you know, like it was easy on 422 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 5: the outside. I just I don't know, I think even 423 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 5: if he wasn't you know, if if he wasn't playing possum. 424 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 5: I don't know. I think that fight was stopped a 425 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 5: little early. 426 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: Well hopefully playing possum doesn't become a trend like calf kicks. 427 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: But uh, I do believe that's what he was doing. 428 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: But uh, all right, well we move on and uh 429 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: may second right two months from today UFC fight night 430 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: Widman versus Hermanson, or maybe it's her Manson versus Widman. 431 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: I don't know who gets the red corner. But uh, 432 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: your guy Chris is back, and that's one hundred and 433 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: eighty five pound fight, yes or return the middleweight ray, Yes. 434 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 5: Yes, And we gotta we gotta really get this guy 435 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 5: back on track, whatever it takes. I think his back 436 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 5: is obviously against the wall and it's gonna take a 437 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 5: full commitment. And uh, I think he's got a good opponent, 438 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: and uh, you know it's gonna it's gonna be interesting. 439 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: But uh, you know, when Manson's a non orthodox guy 440 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 5: who's obviously strong, and uh, it should be Uh, it 441 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 5: should make for a great fight. 442 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: And Alja man Sterling is hitting the UFCP I this week, 443 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: says it's gonna be a big week in terms of 444 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: his recovery. So we'll see how it goes for al Joe. 445 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: But I'm getting wicked, fucking impatient when it comes to 446 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 3: these bandonm weights in these fights. So hopefully we have 447 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: some bout agreements here in the not too distant future. 448 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: My man. 449 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would have thought that would already have been 450 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 5: done based even on our conversation about him. Come on, 451 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 5: we go, but I don't even know if we're close. 452 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, man, Well anything else before we let 453 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: you fly? Are you good? Man? We appreciate the extra 454 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 3: time today, twenty minutes with Longo off the top. 455 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 5: Let me tell you so manytime I get twenty minutes 456 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 5: with my two buddies. I'm happy camper on a Monday morning. 457 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: That's it. I still want the hair. I want to 458 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: see Longo's hair. 459 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 5: I want to tested to make sure everybody knows I'm 460 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 5: not dying. It's almost a curse against me now because no, 461 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 5: you're dying in your head. No, I'm not dying. Trust me. 462 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 5: I would tell you. 463 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: It's actually right. It's actually downright embarrassing that that coming 464 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: up on the five year anniversary of this podcasts launch, 465 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: that Ray isn't consistently on video. I gotta do like 466 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: a tattoo bet or something that maybe if by the 467 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: end of the year raised now, maybe if by May 468 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: second long goes not on video, I have to get 469 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: some long ago inspired tattoo. Not committing to that tattoo, 470 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: but maybe. 471 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: Let me tell me, John, if you've learned anything in 472 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: the last five years, it's you shouldn't be betting. That's it. 473 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: I have a future ticket on the Kansas City Chiefs 474 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl sitting in my desk, jour here. 475 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: That begs to differ. But we'll get you out of 476 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: here on that, buddy. Thank you. We'll talk to you 477 00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 3: next week. 478 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, guys, take it easy. 479 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: All right, we got I mean, what about a tattoo. 480 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 4: Dude put a hole through his fucking chest right on 481 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 4: your chest. 482 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 3: How about that. I'm not that tough five minutes, I'm 483 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: not that tough for all of that. But game bread 484 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 3: tattoos coming. I want to get it on my neck. 485 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: My wife would not allow that. Craig Borsarry is that 486 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: Candido probably don't want that neck tattoo. He's a little 487 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: makeup on there though. All right, we gotta get to 488 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: the pronunciation of the week. So a lot of people 489 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: reached out on TJ. DeSantis' behalf. Okay. Heidi Dean, who 490 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: is one of my dear friends who works for the 491 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: UFC Kenny you know, HD. She texted me, TJ got 492 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: it right. My twin brother, I mean is just bows 493 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: at the altar of TJ. 494 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: No. 495 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: But here's here's why he's two and two and not 496 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: three and one. I actually was gonna give him the point. 497 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: And then I went back and watched the ankle Lia fight. 498 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: Buffer butchered it, right, He just respectfully, He just said 499 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: ank Alive. I mean, whatever it was, you know, I 500 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: love you puff So. But that Brendan Fitzgerald and Michael Bismae. 501 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: I said, all right, if Buffer and these two guys 502 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: all say ankle live three syllables, then we'll give TJ 503 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: the point. But if Fitzgerald and biss Ping are both 504 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: saying ank Alia that he's not getting the fucking point, 505 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: and you know what, the two men who are sitting 506 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: there paid to really get it right, saying it multiple 507 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 3: times during a fight, said anklab So, TJ. Regrettably, you're 508 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: too certain. 509 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 6: You know, I'm not listening to the file before I 510 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 6: make the attempt. 511 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: Right, of course, and we know you're a great sport 512 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: and as credential as it gets. When it comes to me, I. 513 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 6: Just don't want to play a game that I can't win. 514 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 6: And if that's the case, yeah, you know what am 515 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 6: I doing here? 516 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: You know? All right, Well, let's make Kenny. 517 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 6: Let's make Kenny saying from now on and then I 518 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 6: can just say nope, wrong. 519 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: All right, Well to that end, TJ, we have this 520 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 3: week's pronunciation of the week, and uh, this will be 521 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: the first fight of the night on UFC Fight Pass Baby, 522 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: UFC Fight Pass Letters Loud and Proud on on the 523 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: Anticmploring podcast YouTube page. Today, he's fighting Ken Flow's guy, 524 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: Quido Connetty. We all wish it was Guido Connetti so 525 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: we could say Guido on the broadcast, but uh, this 526 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: guy's fighting at bantam weight against Guido Connetti. T J. 527 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Who am I talking about? This name is brutal and two? 528 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 6: Yes, no, nope, not interested? 529 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: All right, well then we can give me the three 530 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: and one. But I really I need to hear you 531 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: say this guy's name. 532 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 6: Oh man, Uh, I don't even know how to say 533 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: the first name, little one, the last name. 534 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: This one's tough, though, day dena bat that one right. 535 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 6: Bat batter roll bat bad bat bat bad. 536 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: George Gurzelle, all right, so it's spelled d A n 537 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: A A b A T G E R e L. 538 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: Let's hear how he says it. 539 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 7: Okay, sorry, slowly one more. 540 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: He does know how to say it. He's just making news. 541 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: So I wrote out the fanatics. I sent them to 542 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: buff and my boss is a Donna bot Getty. Right, 543 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: so we'll see if that's I mean. I don't know 544 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: if that's how to pronounce it. That's my interpretation of 545 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: the file. TJ. We're gonna make you three and two 546 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: on the year because that one was so unfair. We'll 547 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: give you loss for that one. We'll give you the 548 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: win on ank Eliev and we will move on to 549 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: the crazy. 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The time is 582 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: most definitely I faced fine. 583 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: How do you every think both will to win the 584 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 2: Main Event Challenge? John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast. 585 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 3: All right, so it was Nick Contreras or John Anak 586 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: MMA Charity Challenge winner repping Team Annic last week, and 587 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: it's a three to one week for Team Florian that 588 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: has us tied at twenty three apiece. You know, Contraras 589 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: has gotta feel kind of screwed or hose a little bit, 590 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: maybe just short changed on that Coute Lava plus two 591 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: twenty five pick given what happened there. But uh, nonetheless, 592 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: we're tied at twenty three and a big week is 593 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: upon us. Ian Parker is back for the pay per view. 594 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: What's up getting. 595 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 7: I missed you guys last week? 596 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 3: John, We had you in a show. We had you 597 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: on the show picks picked. 598 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 8: I didn't get to see you, guys. I didn't get 599 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 8: to make my picks. What was the first thing I 600 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 8: said to you off air? He did not just pick Utalaba. 601 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 8: I said, just kick the same as Kenny. Maintain the lead. 602 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 8: It's a strategy thing, all right, don't be a hero. 603 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if they run that fight back. I 604 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: love it. We'll see if they run that fight back. 605 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting show is it stands to reason, 606 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: and we touched a lot on it the end, So 607 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: I won't go too far down that road with you. 608 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: But one thing that's interesting, Kenny is it Uncliab and 609 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: kutte Laba are both gonna make more money because of this, 610 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: right because if they run it back in six weeks 611 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: or suitor, you know what I mean. It's like, so 612 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: Ank Alive's getting his show money, he's win money, and 613 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: he gets to fight the same guy probably in a 614 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: couple months. So uh, not all bad for the fighters. 615 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: Even though kute Laba is not a guy you want 616 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: on your bad side, I can assure you. All right, 617 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: So we're gonna make six picks today. It is UFC 618 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: two forty eight out of Sonia versus Romera. We will 619 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: begin with the featured prelim yours live on ESPN. Sugar 620 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: Show is back. Folks, unless you're a quintet ultra guy 621 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: like me, you haven't seen him compete in a while. 622 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: Sean O'Malley Monas three twenty Jose tech O Keinones plus 623 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: two sixty first appearance for O'Malley since UFC two twenty two. 624 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 3: That was too years ago. March twenty eighteen, eighth UFC 625 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: Star for Teco, Who's a pretty good fighters, won five 626 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: of his last six under the radar Ian Parker, who 627 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: do you got here? 628 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 8: He is a good fighter, but I would not want 629 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 8: to be on the opposite side of a very hungry, 630 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 8: very probably impatient Sean O'Malley. At this point, I just 631 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 8: think Mally's reach. I think his creativity on the ground, 632 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 8: if it gets there, will be the difference. I like 633 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 8: that he did that grappling competition. I actually watched. I 634 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 8: was impressed with him. You know, I feel like he's 635 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 8: been training and training. I don't think he's just been 636 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 8: He's definitely a bit smoking weed, but I don't think 637 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 8: he's been doing nothing in smoking weed, So. 638 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Sugar. Yeah, I'm gonna go with 639 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 7: Sugar Shaw on this week. 640 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 8: I'm a little surprised he's that heavy of a favorite though, 641 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 8: like Betty was being out for so long, but I 642 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 8: still like him this week, so I'm gonna go with 643 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 8: Sugar Shawn for the win. 644 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: Kenny, I know this isn't like the Annunciation and the 645 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: Pronunciation podcast, but like, you can't just drop the O 646 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: and call him Malley and not register on TJ's radar. 647 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: Do you understanding? And you know how much love I 648 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: have for you, But you just called Mallian low hanging, 649 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: low hanging tign out. 650 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 8: Turn Out, I speak very fast, so you probably just 651 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 8: didn't hear the Oh I know, listen, if I'm gonna 652 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 8: fuck up a name, it's not gonna be like that. 653 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 7: And TJ didn't come in, so you know he's waiting. 654 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: Low hanging every once in a while. 655 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 6: I just didn't figure I shouldn't derail the show because 656 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 6: you're an idiot, so oh god. 657 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: I mean I wanted to let it go and I 658 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: heard him Malle and anyone was watching the band ole, so. 659 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 6: You talked too quickly and somehow that's our fault. 660 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 8: No, the record, The record will back me up. Yeah, 661 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 8: I challenged the play. Fuck that we have replay, We 662 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 8: could do it. 663 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: I gotta move though, because the best handicapper on the 664 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: show is Joe Osborne. He's coming up in about fifteen minutes. Wow, 665 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: it's just content. It's just. 666 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 7: Bring back in traras and get me the audio. 667 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: Fuck this, So I agree. Ken Flow, Keona's former soccer 668 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: play tough kid, Mexican striker, pretty good UFC body of 669 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: work here. What do you think about him in a 670 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: tough spot, at least on paper against Sean O'Malley. 671 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think this is a fight that really 672 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: favors Sean O'Malley. 673 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: You know, I think Canonia is dangerous. He could do 674 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: some things out there. 675 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 4: I just think that Sean O'Malley is gonna have his 676 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 4: number pretty much everywhere. So yes, smoking that Northern Cali 677 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 4: gonna go with Sean O'Malley. 678 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: Here we go. You need good weed, you go to 679 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: the Sugar Show. Sean O'Malley take good carry all right, 680 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: pay per view opener. This should be bananas. Great matchmaking here, 681 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: excuse me. At welterweight Alex cowboy Lavera minus won forty 682 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: five Max Payne. Griffin is plus one twenty five. You know, 683 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: Griffin has fought a very tough UFC schedule Ian thus far, 684 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: and maybe that's why he hasn't won two straight in 685 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: the octagon ninth UFC appearance here, He's a hard guy 686 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: to put away, great cardio, loves to fight. He's gone 687 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: twenty five minutes four times as a pro, last six 688 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 3: have gone the distance. A lot of film on Griffin. 689 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: What do you think about him here against the Brazilian 690 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: cowboy Alex Olivera. 691 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 7: I think his biggest it's danger. 692 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 8: His key would be the cardio against Olivera, who does 693 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 8: not have a great gas tank. However, it just concerns 694 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 8: me because the guys who he's lost to I don't 695 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 8: think are anywhere near Olivera's level. Who Olivera has fought 696 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 8: on a competition standpoint. You know, it's fun to take 697 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 8: shots at underdogs here, but I just think Olivera is 698 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 8: better everywhere. You know, I don't necessarily think he's gonna 699 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 8: knock Griffin out, but ground game he's better. You know, 700 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 8: He's I think he's striking as long as Olivera doesn't 701 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 8: get wild and try to get into a crazy exchange. 702 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 8: If he can stay composed and really utilize his ground game, 703 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 8: I think he has this so for the moment, although 704 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 8: I don't like it, it's this is a risky fight. 705 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 8: This is a lot harder pick than people may assume. 706 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 8: I'm still gonna take Cowboy Olivera here can flow? 707 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: Can you hear Gustavo Lima blaring in your head right 708 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: now as Alex Cowboy Olivera gets set to make another walk? 709 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: You know, he's kind of an acquired taste. I think 710 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: for a lot of people. He was nine and three 711 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: in the UFC at one point before the recent three 712 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: fight Skid Goodar Nelson, Mike Perry. Most recently he lost 713 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: a unanimous decisions the returning Nicholas Dalby could be fighting 714 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 3: for his job here, Kenny, what do you think about 715 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 3: Alex Olivera against Max Griffin? 716 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: You know this is a difficult one. I think Griffin 717 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: is more of your traditional orthodox striker. Olivera very unorthodox 718 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 4: in his approach. He's got a weird rhythm to him. 719 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: I do think Griffin can definitely win this fight. I 720 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: just think that oliver has a tendency of making things 721 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: nasty out there, even for guys like Goodard Nelson, you know, 722 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 4: who typically can stick to a game plan and keep 723 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 4: it pretty technical. But olivera can find a way to 724 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 4: drag them into you know, these wild fights, and I 725 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 4: think Oliver is gonna be able to do this against 726 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 4: Max Griffin. I like Oliver here to win this fight, 727 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 4: all right. 728 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: Also a welterway boys, the oncoming force that is the 729 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 3: Leech Lee Jinglyong one of my favorite people on this roster. 730 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: Despite the language Barrier, I got so much love for 731 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 3: the Leech, has such a big heart. He's the minus 732 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 3: one seventy five favorite here. Will try to keep the 733 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: momentum going with a fourth straight win against the plus 734 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: one fifty five underdog Neil Magni. Ken Fall, Why don't 735 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 3: you lead us here? What do you think the Leech 736 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: or the twenty time UFC veteran Neil Magni? 737 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 4: Jeez, This is another tricky fight, well matched fight. I 738 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: myself would like to see Magni establish his jab, keep 739 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: Jingleung on the outside and then look for takedowns. Try 740 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 4: to put him on his back and see if he 741 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 4: can you control him, slow him down look for a 742 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 4: submission there, but I just don't see it happening. I 743 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 4: think Lee Jingleung is gonna get the win here. I 744 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 4: see him hurting him on the feet and maybe getting 745 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 4: a late TKO. 746 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, Neil magni idole since he was knocked out by 747 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: Santiago Ponzanibo. That was all the way back in November 748 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: of twenty eighteen. But that obviously is not the narrative 749 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: on his career. He has been a workhorse and he's 750 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: found found a recipe for success in the octagon despite 751 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: you know, at least on paper, coming off the ultimate fighter, 752 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: not being a guy who people had high expectations for. 753 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: Fourteen UFC wins. That's Born and Ken flow my man, 754 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 3: you know, and a lot of that. You know, five 755 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: in a full year in twenty fourteen. What do you 756 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: think about this fight here? Neil Magney leging lyon, But 757 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: was he the. 758 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 8: Most popular fighter over Anderson Silva for like eleven months? 759 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: I think they. 760 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 4: Left last time I checked. He didn't fight after Anderson Silva. 761 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 4: But you know twice even was. 762 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 8: Ever a dark untelevised main event fight like Kenny, I 763 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 8: don't think so. 764 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 7: So here's here's what I'll say about Neil Bagan. 765 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 8: I think I think one of the things about Magni 766 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 8: that made that that recipe for success like you spoke about, 767 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 8: was I guess kind of the unexpected surprise of him people. 768 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 8: He was so unassuming, you know after the show, his 769 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 8: ranged way he used it. 770 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 7: He was very good all around. 771 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 8: I mean that fight against Hector Lombard was crazy, you 772 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 8: know his cardio also, however, I think he's at a 773 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 8: real disadvantage coming off a long layoff. I mean, when 774 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 8: you fight as much as he was doing, you get 775 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 8: your own rhythm. 776 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,959 Speaker 7: He was finding success. The leech is no joke. 777 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 8: After that last fight, I am all about the leech, John, 778 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 8: I see why you love this guy. 779 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 7: I think the power here is going to be the 780 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 7: difference maker. 781 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 8: I don't know if Magni, who was once able to 782 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 8: handle it, I don't think he'll be able to handle 783 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 8: the power. To Kenny's point, you gotta put leech on 784 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 8: his back in order to take away that situation. 785 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 7: I don't see that happening either. 786 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 8: I think his takedown attempts are way too predictable, and 787 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 8: I think the Leech comes out victorious in this one. 788 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 7: So I'm with Kenny here as well. 789 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: All right, next up on the pay per view featured 790 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 3: bout at lightweight. This fight was made once before last 791 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: July and Sacramento, Banil dar Usch pulled out of the 792 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 3: fight six days out Saturday night. It shall be done. 793 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 3: The recently married Benil dar Usch. Monus won sixty five 794 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 3: j Kar Close plus one forty five IP. Who do 795 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: you have? 796 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 7: This is a tough fight. 797 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 8: This is a really tough fight to pick on a 798 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 8: betting standpoint. I really don't like either one. It just 799 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 8: it just it's too close everywhere. But here, I'm gonna 800 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 8: roll with the underdog. I'm gonna go with Close in 801 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 8: this one. I think his leg kicks could be the difference, 802 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 8: you know. I think with darry Yush, when he first 803 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 8: came to the us UFC, his wrestling, you know, was 804 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 8: really something he utilized. 805 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 7: He has not been able to establish that a. 806 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 8: Lot lately, and I think that's why he's been a 807 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 8: little inconsistent. 808 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 7: I don't love him in the you know, again, this 809 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 7: is so tough. 810 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 8: I just think that in order for Close to win 811 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 8: this fight, he cannot be as hesitant as he was 812 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 8: in his last fight against Jagos Am I pronouncing that 813 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 8: one correctly? 814 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 7: Probably not, but I'm just gonna throw it out there. 815 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 8: I know I'm not gonna pronounce ninety eight percent of 816 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 8: these guys correctly, but I'm gonna go with Close. 817 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 7: I think the leg kicks, I think his. 818 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 8: Wrestling will prevent the takedowns, and I think he's a 819 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 8: better striker. 820 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 7: So he's also really scrappy, he's tough. I like him 821 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 7: in this one. If I had to pick. 822 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: So Kenny, I saw, well, you do have to pick I. 823 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: Sadra Carr Close shortly after dar US's withdrawal, and he 824 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: was not happy obviously, a week out, biggest fight of 825 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 3: his career, at least on paper, formerly rank guy in 826 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 3: dar Yush, and he was moving on from the fight, 827 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: went and fought christ Dosiagos and now this fight comes 828 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 3: around again. So it does have some extra heat on it, 829 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 3: I think, at least on the close side. I don't 830 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 3: know if that matters, but Daryush, you know, has won 831 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 3: three straight since a three fight winless kid. You got 832 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: close at five and one in the UFC. Who do 833 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 3: you think keeps it going here? This is another close 834 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 3: matchup here. I think for Drakar Close the things that 835 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 3: he does better. I think he probably has the cleaner wrestling. 836 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 3: He probably has the cleaner boxing as well. But somehow 837 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 3: Daryush is able to really combine all of his skills 838 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 3: into a tough package to deal with. And I think 839 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 3: that Daryush is gonna be a little bit more dangerous everywhere. 840 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 3: If someone gets a finish, I think it's gonna be Daryush. 841 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 3: I think it probably favors Close if it goes to decision, 842 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 3: but I think Daryush is gonna find a way to 843 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: get the win here. I think he's gonna come out 844 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 3: very aggressive and throw Close off of his game. Close 845 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 3: likes a more of a controlled pace, and Daryush kind 846 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: of will get your face and pressure straight away. So 847 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 3: I liked, are you sure to get to win? If 848 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 3: you're wondering why Ken Flow is the best analysts in MMA, 849 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: rewind the show thirty seconds. Just listen to those thirty seconds. 850 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 3: Listen all right, co headliner UFC Straweight title Kenny, We'll 851 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 3: have you lead here my man jongwe Lee minus one 852 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: seventy five yo Wanna Young Jcheck plus one fifty five. 853 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 3: So jeongwe Lee favored here in what will be the 854 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 3: first defense of her undisputed title. So we're gonna sit 855 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: down with her for the first time Thursday in Vegas, 856 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 3: and obviously we're curious how this whole coronavirus backdrop has 857 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 3: affected her preparation. If you follow her on Instagram, you 858 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: know she's been bouncing around, but she has been in 859 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 3: the US for a while, and she's gonna try to 860 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 3: take out the former strawweight queen here. I love this fight, 861 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 3: ken Flow remarkably a tenth UFC title fight for Yoanna 862 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 3: Young Jcheck certainly has a huge edge in terms of 863 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 3: the strength of schedule, UFC championship experience. How do you 864 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 3: handicap the Komine event? Kid? 865 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 4: I really love this fight as well. It's intriguing for 866 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 4: a lot of different reasons. You know, is this a 867 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 4: new you wanna Young jchick? You know, is she hungry again? 868 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 4: I think she lost a little bit of her hunger. 869 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 4: I think some in some cases, the early success may 870 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 4: have plagued her. Obviously, she had a lot of issues 871 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 4: outside of the octagon that she had to deal with, 872 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 4: and I'm sure those were major factors as well. But 873 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: sometimes when you find success that early in the UFC 874 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 4: and then things don't go so well, you tend to 875 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 4: start to doubt yourself big time. You know, you know 876 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 4: it was I doing the right thing. Are people getting 877 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: better than me? And we have a Chinese fighter who 878 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 4: is I think gonna be looking for these exchanges. 879 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 3: Is going to be trying. 880 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 4: To test the chin of you on a young J chick, 881 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 4: and I think she has the power to do it. 882 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 4: I think there's been times where you know, I see 883 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 4: Jong and I feel like she shows a little bit 884 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 4: of inexperience. Sometimes she gets overly excited, you know when 885 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 4: she hurts her opponents. But she's got some serious power. 886 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 4: I think she's only getting better. I think she's a 887 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 4: tremendous athlete. I think she's the better athlete here. I 888 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 4: think you want a young J chick if she's able 889 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 4: to take this to decision and be discipline and outpoint 890 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 4: her round after round. I think you want to can 891 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 4: win this, but I like Jong to get the win here. 892 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 4: I think she's gonna look to try to finish her 893 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 4: and we'll get the finish. Let's go with fourth round TKO. 894 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: Round four TKO the official pick for Ken Flow on 895 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 3: Jong Way Lee So Young Jcheck's strawweight rain from twenty 896 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty seventeen. Ian absolutely is the rain that 897 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,479 Speaker 3: all of these future strawweight rains will be judged. Noma 898 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 3: Unis wasn't able to hold that belt as long. I 899 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 3: do think yo Wanna has figured out how to successfully 900 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 3: make one hundred and fifteen pounds and not completely destroy herself. 901 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: Maybe that's not the case, you know, but I do 902 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: believe that there have been some encouraging signs. Certainly the 903 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 3: Michelle Watterson wait Cup back in October I think was 904 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 3: a step in the right direction for jeanwel Lee. I 905 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 3: don't know if she's fought anyone remotely close to Yoanna 906 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: forty two seconds of footage from that Jessica Andrage championship win, 907 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: but obviously there's a good UFC body of work that 908 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 3: preceded that fight that Ti Sha Torrez win. What do 909 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: you think about this straweight title foot. 910 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 8: On a betting standpoint, Yoanna plus one p fifty five 911 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 8: is pretty fucking sexy. 912 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 7: It's it's hard because you know. 913 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 8: How when do you do you ever see those type 914 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 8: of odds, like as an underdog for someone who's been 915 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 8: a dominant champ, who has fought the top of the top, 916 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 8: the best of the best, and then you have Lee 917 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 8: who comes in as a champion. To your point, what 918 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 8: was it for you said? Forty two seconds? 919 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 7: Right? 920 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 8: The only thing that I you know, I think Kenny 921 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 8: kind of broke this down perfectly. You know, one thing 922 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 8: he just didn't mention was that Lee's wrestling. You know, 923 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 8: you kind of forget about that, and that's always been 924 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 8: Yoanna's you know, kryptonite as well. Putting her in her 925 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 8: back is something that Lee can rely on, not just 926 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 8: her power. Her boxing looks really good. She just seems 927 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 8: like maybe the more well round fight her. I don't 928 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 8: know what her cardio is gonna be, and if it 929 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 8: goes to the distance of the Kenny's point, Yoanna has 930 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 8: to go that far. She has to outpoint her, she 931 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 8: has to outstrike her tremendously in and out fire away 932 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 8: those leg kicks take. 933 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 7: Away that power. 934 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 3: You know. 935 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 7: But I just think Lee is a monster. 936 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 3: You know. 937 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 8: That last fight shut me the fuck up real bad, 938 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 8: because I thought Onrage was gonna be the more powerful. 939 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 7: One and nope. 940 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 8: You know what I'm willing to when I'm wrong, I'm wrong, 941 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 8: and I was really fucking wrong with that one. So 942 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 8: I think Lee wins here. I'm gonna do little prices, right, 943 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 8: I'm gonna go round two. I think she'll finish Yauanna. 944 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 8: I think if she takes his fight to the ground, 945 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 8: I see her ticket y wanta to the ground. You 946 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 8: want up being on force, trying to get up and 947 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 8: Lee just firing away that left hand on the ground 948 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 8: and just ending it that way. 949 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 7: I just think she's a beast. 950 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 8: I think her discipline, you know, with the way she 951 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 8: trains for what I'm hearing and what I'm reading, I 952 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 8: like it. You know, you want to maybe hungry, but 953 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 8: I think Lee is just so well rounded that Kenny's 954 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 8: got something. 955 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, And I was gonna add, are you done? 956 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 957 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I was gonna. 958 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 4: I was just gonna add, you know, I think a 959 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 4: lot of it had to do with Michelle Waterson's excellent 960 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 4: performance as well. 961 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: But I was waiting for this. 962 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 4: Amazing performance from Yoanna Young Jake Check to go out 963 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 4: there and finish uh someone like Michelle Waterson. 964 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 3: She couldn't get it done. When I didn't see that, 965 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 3: I said, I don't know if she has it yet. 966 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean she doesn't. She could show up and 967 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 3: really prove us wrong here. 968 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 4: But I was waiting for an amazing performance and I 969 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 4: just didn't see that here. 970 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 3: So that's why I'm going with Jongwa Lee as well. 971 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,959 Speaker 3: All Right, a couple of plays there, go ahead, good. 972 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 8: No, I was gonna say no to Kenny's point. You know, 973 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 8: that was something that was kind of the fight. I 974 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 8: thought that was designed for Joanna to have that moment 975 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 8: to set this up. You know, I thought she she 976 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 8: made a fun a little conservative to make sure she 977 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 8: got the win. But you just you just kind of 978 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 8: took the words right from my mouth, even though I 979 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 8: was probably rambling like an asshole. You know, that's really 980 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 8: the thing that I was waiting for too. So that 981 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 8: I'm with you, I think. I think Lisa Starr this 982 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 8: is huge for her for her resumes. 983 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 3: Shoan Way Lee, stop calling her Lee. I let it 984 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 3: go there for six times. Fucking Christ it's like calling 985 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: Kenny Knight. It's like Kenny fucking Knee. Call him knee. Look, 986 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 3: it's Lee main event through the undisputed UFCE Midway Championship. 987 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 3: This will be the first official defense for Israel Ada Sonia. 988 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 3: He doesn't see it as such because he had that 989 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 3: inner rebel going into Whitaker fight, but first official defense. 990 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 3: He's the Monust two seventy five favorite against the ageless 991 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 3: Joel Romero, who comes back plus two thirty five. All 992 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 3: credit to Izzy for taking a page out of Bibnrmongo 993 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 3: Meadow's book and perpetually asking for the toughest fights. If 994 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 3: Paolo Costa is hurt, I want Joel Romero. I want 995 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 3: that scalp on my resume. Ian Parker, how do you 996 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 3: see the main event plan out this weekend? 997 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 8: If we were talking two years ago, I would go 998 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 8: Romero because he actually used his wrestling. Uh, but he 999 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 8: doesn't seem like that guy anymore. He wants to land 1000 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 8: the flying me. He wants to brawl and land the knockout. 1001 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 8: Against paul A Costa. He only went for a couple 1002 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 8: of takedowns, got them stood back up, and just didn't 1003 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 8: try again. Out of Sonya is just in my just 1004 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 8: I think his evolution and his young career in the 1005 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 8: UFC has just been unbelievable. His takedown defense, he's just 1006 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 8: so good, and I just don't know if I just 1007 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 8: think he listen, I think he wins this fight. I 1008 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 8: don't think he's gonna finish Romero. You know, Romero's obviously 1009 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 8: very tough to finish, and if this just becomes a 1010 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 8: kickboxing fight, I think it's pretty obviously Ata Sonya has 1011 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 8: the edge here, you know, just Romero. I mean, listen, 1012 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 8: he's a frightening individual power for days, He's a freak. 1013 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 8: The guy is just watching him, his eyes, the facial expressions, 1014 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 8: it's like nothing fazes him. But I also don't think 1015 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 8: he really thinks logically, like in the fight, he's like 1016 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 8: you like, he throws it out the window. It's so inconsistent. 1017 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 8: So I think he is were all out of Sonya here. 1018 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 8: I'm gonna go by decision. I just don't think he 1019 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 8: plays into Yoel Romero's game at all. You know, he 1020 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 8: doesn't fight emotional like Romero does, So I got izzy 1021 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 8: can't flow. 1022 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 3: Yoel Romero's last four fights one in three lost to 1023 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 3: Robert Whitaker UFC two thirteen, twenty seventeen, one of the 1024 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 3: best fights I've ever seen. Then he knocked out Luke 1025 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 3: Rock in Perth. That was February twenty eighteen. He wins 1026 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 3: the Interer midweight title fight, but he had missedweight, so 1027 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 3: no belt for him. Next fight then rematch for the 1028 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 3: undisputed title that was UFC two to twenty five June 1029 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Missed wait again. A lot of people thought 1030 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 3: he won that or did enough to win that whittick 1031 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 3: Er rematch, but uh then was on the wrong end 1032 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 3: of a split decision there, beaten by Paolo Costaid UFC 1033 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 3: two to forty one last August. So it's two straight 1034 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 3: losses on paper, but still as dangerous and seemingly as 1035 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 3: motivated as any midweight in the world. That's why out 1036 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 3: Ofsnia wants to fight. I flew back from Houston with Romero. 1037 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 3: He is carrying himself very lean. I know that doesn't 1038 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 3: guarantee that he's gonna make weight on Friday, but tremendous fight. 1039 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 3: I know you and Izzy go way back. The floor 1040 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 3: is yours. Who wins the middleweight title fight in Vegas? Well, 1041 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 3: let's see if America can make champ wait. You know, 1042 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 3: I think that is he sees something very clear, and 1043 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 3: that's why he wants this fight. Not only does he 1044 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 3: want to prove himself, but I do think he sees a. 1045 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 4: Vulnerability in Romero's game. What is that vulnerability? I think 1046 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 4: there's a few things first, Romero is a little too stiff. 1047 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 4: Everyone talks about him being this physical specimen, and he is. 1048 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 4: He looks like one. Does he move as a mixed 1049 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 4: martial artist as this specimen. 1050 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 3: I don't think he does. 1051 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 4: I think he carries this slow moving pace for a reason. 1052 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 4: He doesn't want to get tired. It's the other reason 1053 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 4: why he doesn't rely on a heavy based strategy when 1054 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 4: he fights. He doesn't want to get tired. Olympic wrestling, 1055 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 4: it's like they're quick goes and you're done. This is 1056 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,479 Speaker 4: a twenty five minute fight that he has to pace 1057 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 4: himself for. I expect Adisanya to get there right out 1058 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 4: of the gate and pressure them and get Romero to 1059 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 4: work hard from that very first second of that very 1060 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 4: first round. 1061 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 3: I think out of Sany's. 1062 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 4: Game plan is to go heavy early, look to take 1063 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 4: him out late in that fight in a fourth or 1064 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 4: fifth round. 1065 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 3: TKO. Can he do it? Yes? I believe he does. 1066 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 3: I think he's got this. I think he has the 1067 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 3: variety of skills. 1068 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 4: You look at the intelligence of how both of these 1069 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 4: guys approach their fights and how they execute their game plans. 1070 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 4: Romero tends to get a feel for the fight Adasanya 1071 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 4: does that as well, but he has also has a 1072 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 4: very clear game plan and approach. He knows exactly what 1073 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 4: his opponent is going to do at all times. That's 1074 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,760 Speaker 4: why he's getting these, you know, tremendous performances. That finish 1075 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 4: over Whittaker I thought was a stroke of genius the 1076 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 4: way that he. 1077 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 3: Knocked him out. He knew exactly what Whitaker was going 1078 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 3: to do. 1079 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 4: He was leaning back expecting that hook trade he landed first, 1080 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 4: got the finish over a tremendous champion in Whittaker who 1081 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 4: beat Romero not once but twice. I like Adasanya here 1082 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 4: to get a TKO or knockout in round four. You know, 1083 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 4: I think this is going to be a tremendous fight. 1084 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 4: I'm excited for this one, and I think Autasanya definitely 1085 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 4: has that special star quality and this fight. 1086 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 3: Is going to take him up yet another notch. He said, 1087 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm not gonna slow cook him. We'll see 1088 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 3: if he can get him out of there. Ken Flow 1089 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 3: says round four, Ian Parker. Anything on the way out, 1090 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 3: my man, I. 1091 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 8: Don't know what it is with Kenny say. Maybe it's 1092 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 8: the lavender, but man, you brought the fucking heat right there. 1093 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 7: Rought the heat got you. 1094 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 8: He was all over that screen right there. He came 1095 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 8: ready kennybe championship. Wait, I'm ready to go this wee. 1096 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 8: I'm pumped for this fight. No, I'm really I'm pumped 1097 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 8: for this fight this weekend. It should be a lot 1098 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 8: of fun. 1099 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 3: All right, buddy, we will talk to you next week. 1100 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Thank you, sir. 1101 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 7: You gotta lead you guys. 1102 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 3: All right. Ata Sonia versus Romero four or five sleeps away. 1103 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 3: I just can't wait, you know. And it's funny because 1104 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 3: when Autasani says I'm gonna fry him and I'm not 1105 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 3: gonna slow cook him, right, It's like I feel like 1106 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 3: if I was allowed to bet on this stuff, that 1107 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 3: would be something that I'd be like, huh, maybe he's 1108 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 3: maybee under fifteen minutes. We'll see. But I do believe 1109 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 3: that Romero uh has put in all the right work continuously, kenful. 1110 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 3: I just think he does have that cardio blockage thing. 1111 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 3: And you know, we talked about Colby Covington. Realize I 1112 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,840 Speaker 3: think as an eight year old on a soccer pitch 1113 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 3: that he had a third lung. And I think for 1114 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 3: Yoel he has a very acute understanding of even if 1115 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 3: he maximizes his resting heart rate, he can only be 1116 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 3: so good in rounds four and five if he doesn't 1117 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 3: take one off. 1118 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, John, and I think there's a reason why 1119 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 4: he moves the way he does. He is pacing himself 1120 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 4: and that's smart. But again I think that that is 1121 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 4: going to ultimately lead to his downfall here. And he's 1122 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 4: just a little too stiff on the feet and you know, 1123 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 4: not as efficient as he can be. I think Adasanya 1124 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 4: is a guy who just moves so well, He's so fluid, 1125 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 4: he's so fast, and man, he might just might just 1126 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 4: be the smartest fighter in the game. 1127 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 3: All right, Well, we are going to get a third 1128 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 3: and final opinion on this main event between Israelina Sonia 1129 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 3: and El Romera. Let's get to the pic to click. 1130 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 2: Time now for the pick to click the pic to click. 1131 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,720 Speaker 2: All I have to do is bet on the winner, 1132 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 2: and I'll never let John Anna and Kenny Florian podcast. 1133 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 3: All right, Today's Pick to Click brought to you by 1134 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 3: oddshark dot com. Oddshark is your source for the latest 1135 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 3: odds from leading authorities, expert editorial content, and detailed matchup picks. 1136 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 3: With expert in depth analysis for each game. They're free. 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I could kick in 1147 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 9: at any moment. I got big workout on tap, but 1148 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 9: I'm pumped here talking to you. 1149 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 3: I love it. I don't know what ken Flow took today, 1150 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 3: but some of the finest mixed martial arts analysis I've 1151 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 3: heard in a long time. So before we get to 1152 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 3: your prediction on Ottosnia and Romero this weekend, sure a 1153 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 3: lot of people are talking about Tom Brady, and rightfully so. 1154 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 3: As a Patriots fan obnoxiously wearing Entering Title Town sweatshirt 1155 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 3: all weekend, everybody wants to know where TV twelve is 1156 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 3: going next year. I'm a betting man. I have seen 1157 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 3: that New England still appears to be the betting favorite. 1158 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 3: I guess if I had to bet right now, I 1159 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 3: think he would go to the Tennessee Titans. If he 1160 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,399 Speaker 3: doesn't go back to New England, what do the odds say? 1161 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 3: And do you have any lean as to where you 1162 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 3: think Tommy's going to play in September? 1163 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, you take a look at the yards and this 1164 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 9: is as of last week. These are off the board 1165 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 9: right now. But as of last week, he is favored 1166 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 9: to go back to New England at minus two fifty. 1167 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 9: But if he does leave, the favorite to the Las 1168 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,240 Speaker 9: Vegas Raiders and the Los Angeles Chargers plus three hundred, 1169 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 9: then the Tennessee Titans plus seven hundred my lean, and 1170 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 9: it's a hard lean. I think he's going back to 1171 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 9: New England if he wants to win, especially to do 1172 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 9: so is in New England? Do they still have one 1173 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 9: of the top defenses in the league. They have an 1174 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 9: opportunity in the offseason to improve their offensive skill positions 1175 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 9: as well as an almost guaranteed ticket to the playoffs. 1176 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 9: Thanks for playing in the AFC East, you know, I 1177 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 9: think both sides are kind of posturing right now. That's 1178 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 9: the negotiations and the work, plus the league and the 1179 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 9: players are working on a new CBA, So what's the rush? Ultimately, 1180 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 9: you know, I kind of picked the story. Is Beam 1181 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 9: blown out of proportion? A little bit bit of a 1182 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 9: slow news cycle right now? So I think we see 1183 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 9: him go back to the Patriots and they have one 1184 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 9: more kicket the can. 1185 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too, man, I really do. It's like, 1186 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 3: if you know Tom, you know that he's trying to 1187 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 3: win a ring next season, and as great as the 1188 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 3: Chargers roster is on paper, he's got to believe in 1189 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 3: Mahomes's division that he can get out of that division. 1190 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 3: And he's got to believe that Anthony Lynn, the head coach, 1191 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 3: can take him to the Promised Land. And I'm not 1192 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 3: sure he thinks Anthony Lynn is that guy, all right, 1193 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 3: But in the nature of time, I want to move on. 1194 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 3: So I love future wagers. As you know, at times 1195 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 3: you can bet you know who's going to be the 1196 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 3: UFC champion at the end of twenty twenty. But Major 1197 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 3: League Baseball Spring training is here, so a lot of 1198 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 3: people are betting on these season win totals. And you've 1199 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 3: got two for our listeners here today. 1200 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 9: Yeah one, I love listen. A lot of people aren't 1201 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 9: gonna like this one, but this is one of the 1202 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 9: smartest MLB features that you can make right now, and 1203 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 9: that's for the Houston Astros to go over. Not love 1204 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 9: it and a half wins loving. People despise this team. 1205 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,279 Speaker 9: They want them to lose and they want to bet 1206 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 9: against them, but this is still very much one of 1207 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 9: the most talented rosters in baseball. They've won one hundred 1208 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 9: more one hundred and one or more games than three 1209 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 9: straight seasons and including one of was other last season 1210 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 9: when springer al Tuvan Korea. All this significant time. You know, 1211 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 9: they don't play in the greatest division. They met fifty 1212 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 9: six and twenty within the ALS last season, and they 1213 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 9: also had a great road recker where they didn't have 1214 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 9: that little camera in the utfield to tell them what 1215 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 9: the pitchers are coming. So I think they're still going 1216 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 9: to have a pretty good season. And you know, flirt, 1217 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,760 Speaker 9: let's get into that triple digits one hundred again. Favorite 1218 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 9: under bet Pittsburgh Pirates sixty nine and a half really 1219 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 9: low number, but keep in mind they won to sixty 1220 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 9: nine games last season, playing a very competitive division where 1221 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 9: four of the teams have a realistic chance of winning. 1222 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 9: The Pirates are not one of those teams. Are going 1223 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 9: to be a punching bag for the rest of them. 1224 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 9: They had an atrocious second half twenty five and forty 1225 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 9: eight did nothing to improve a roster that was in 1226 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 9: the bottom third of both run scored and ERA. So 1227 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 9: I like under for the Pirates. 1228 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that. I knew you were going over Houston. 1229 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 3: I knew that was coming, all right. So for our listeners, 1230 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 3: I think they want to know, as as a credentialed 1231 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 3: handicapper on your level, Israel lot of Sonya minus two 1232 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 3: to seventy five Yol Romero plus two thirty five are 1233 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 3: two resident guys Canfilonian Parker. They like Israel lot of 1234 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 3: Sonia to win this fight. How do you see the 1235 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 3: main event? Do you see any value at all on 1236 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 3: that Yoel Romero side? 1237 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 9: I do, uh you know? In terms of who wins 1238 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 9: them in no rush to bet against Adisanya, but the 1239 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 9: vetting from a vetting value perspective, the values on Romero only. 1240 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 9: Losses in the UFC came on the wrong end of 1241 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 9: some very close razor fin decisions and who knows a 1242 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 9: different to the judges in those fights, especially the Robert 1243 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 9: Whitaker ones. He might be wearing the shraps today, so 1244 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 9: he's probably one of the best guys not wearing a 1245 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 9: belt today. However, my best at for this fight is 1246 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 9: for the fight to go to decision at plus one 1247 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 9: seventy five. We know Adisonia has never been finished in 1248 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 9: his mm A career, Romero only been finished once way 1249 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 9: back in twenty eleven, and Strike Force neither man easy 1250 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 9: to put away. We've seen each a lot of big 1251 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 9: shots and stay on their fight. I think we get 1252 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,919 Speaker 9: a similar fight to Adisonia versus Gasolm. So fight goes 1253 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 9: to the decision looks like a pretty good spot, especially 1254 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 9: at plus one seventy five. 1255 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 3: Last time he gave one of those out dominic rays 1256 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 3: and John Jones. It came in Joe Osborne on Twitter 1257 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 3: at jtfoz. If you want more from him, hit that 1258 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 3: on Shark dot Com. On the Daily, Joe appreciated my man, 1259 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 3: have a good week, have a good workout, kid. I 1260 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 3: gotta get one in Jesus Christ. 1261 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 9: Absolutely, man, the pre work that's kicking in right now. 1262 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 3: I can feel it all right, buddy, have a good week. 1263 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 5: All right, guys, I gotta I. 1264 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 3: Need like some workout and answer. You know it's like 1265 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 3: maybe little caffeine, but yeah, you're a coffee guy, right, 1266 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 3: do you drink coffee? Coffee? Not necessarily right before the workout, 1267 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 3: Ronda Rousey style, but maybe that's what I need to do. Yeah, 1268 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 3: And if you haven't done well, actually eventually probably that 1269 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 3: testosteron'll probably be an option. All right, if you haven't 1270 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 3: done so already, I hope you will check out the 1271 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 3: show in video form. Finally launched a YouTube channel a 1272 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 3: few months ago. Please watch, Subscribe at your leisure, and 1273 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 3: next Monday we are right back with you. We'll recap 1274 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 3: UFC two forty eight, will Joel Romero finally break through 1275 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 3: and bring American top team another undisputed UFC Championship. Find 1276 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 3: out Saturday night on pay per view prelums prior on ESPN. 1277 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 3: Thank you to our guest Ray Longo, Ian Parker, Joe Osborne. 1278 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 3: This has been a TJ. DeSantis production. We shout out 1279 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 3: Mike Heck on the video side. Ken Flow great stuff today, 1280 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 3: from the lavender sweatshirt to some of your breakdown, you 1281 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 3: can be sure. I'll be listening back to that in 1282 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 3: my room on Friday night as I prep for this 1283 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 3: big one. See you next Monday, kid, have a good classmate, 1284 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 3: ROCKYBJJ dot com. Noon teaching at noon today is yes, sir, 1285 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 3: on my way right after this dog. All right, get 1286 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 3: out of here. We'll talk to you guys next week. 1287 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 3: Until then, don't text and drive. Enjoy the fights. You'll 1288 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 3: fucking lit it. 1289 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 10: Sports betting is sweeping across the country faster than the coronavirus. 1290 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 2: And Wagering Week is your antidote. 1291 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 10: I'm Tom Martin, and I'm a veteran sports analyst and 1292 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 10: respected sports handicapper who will help build ESPN's brand. I've 1293 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 10: been recognized and awarded by Pro Football Weekly and Gaming 1294 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 10: Today Magazine as the honest handicapper. 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