1 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Day, brought to 3 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: Hey, let's do it live on a first Friday. A 7 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: miracle editiative plee the Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. 8 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: He is the great z earbuds in Oh Baby, there 9 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: you go. 10 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: All right, we're back. 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: We're on to Tennessee. The time for doom and gloom 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: and sadness is over. 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 5: It's not for me, it is for me. 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: Get with it. 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: Come on, you know what, Get get Bet. I was 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: gonna say, you want to go over there and cry 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 4: in your milk? 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 6: Get Bet? 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: Oh boy, we've got a familiar face. 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 5: Yes we do. 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt, Welcome home, buddy, not that he ever left. 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: I think he hung around. It's hometown for him. Obviously, 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: take me through this process. Obviously we have the the 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: just critical brutal injury to Nick on Monday, and then 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: it's like, boy, we got to find somebody quickly. How 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: do you believe this process went that led to Kareem 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: Hunts reuniting with your Cleveland Browns. 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: I think that they explored a couple of options, and 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 4: I think one would be, you know, a trade for 30 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: cam Akers. But at the same time, I think they 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 4: were probably hesitant to give up an asset. There were 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: some interest in Trey Sermon. He ended up signing with 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: the Colts practice quite of course, you could have signed 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: him off of there, but we didn't even sign our 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: practice squad at that time. So I think it came 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: down to somebody that they know, somebody who knows this offense, 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: somebody who will be able to acclimate very very quickly 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: and be able to be you know that second complimentary 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: running back to Jerome Ford, I think part of it 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: had to do with the time to ramp up would 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: be very small. I think that they like Pierre Strong, 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 4: but I think the idea of that, all of a 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: sudden you have just Jerome Ford and Pierre Strong, who 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: have very little experience between the two of them. I 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: think they want somebody with some experience, and Kareem Ford 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: obviously makes a lot of sense. I don't know if 47 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: they explored you know, Deerannis Johnson anything like that, but 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: you know, Kareem had you go back and you look 49 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: at it. You know, in twenty and nineteen, he comes 50 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: in after the eight games for the Browns, one hundred 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: and seventy nine yards rushing, twenty five receiving, did a 52 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: lot of blocking. He's willing to do. I think some 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: of the dirty work could maybe be the goal line 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: back ish type of a guy is a bigger guy. 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 4: His great year was twenty twenty with US. You know, 56 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: eight hundred and forty one yards rushing, six touchdowns on 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: the ground average four point two yards to carry, fifty 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 4: one catches, thirty eight fifth, thirty eight catch I'm sorry, 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 4: three hundred four yards and five touchdowns there. So he 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: had over eleven hundred total yards and eleven touchdowns. One 61 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: was off to an unbelievable start. I remember those first 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: eight games, five hundred and sixty total yards, five touchdowns, 63 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: and then last year it just kind of went down 64 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: a little bit for Kareem. Honey averages a career low 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: three point eight yards per carry, finishes with four hundred 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: and sixty eight yards rushing three touchdowns. 67 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 5: Uh. 68 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: He averages a career low six yards perceptionist career average 69 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: was eight point six. 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: Uh. And so you know, just. 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: That made you a little concern. Six hundred and seventy 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: eight total yards, four touchdowns. So I think he's going 73 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: to be a role player. You wonder, you know, was 74 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 4: that an anomaly last year coming back maybe from that 75 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: injury and maybe being you know, more than a year remove, 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: that he could get back to you know what we 77 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 4: saw more in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. And 78 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: if so, he could be a very valuable compliment to 79 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: Jerome Ford in a piece of this offense. 80 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: I want to run two more things by you on 81 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: this front, please, how Nick Chubb is not a very 82 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: talkative guy, right, No, But one of the few people 83 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: who have been here with Nut, with Nick who can 84 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: get him to quickly crack a smile, who he I've 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: seen many many times pal around with around here is 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt. There was a Batman Robin boisterous silliness to 87 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: Kareem that mashed. It was a yin and yang totally 88 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: with Nick. The two of them had a very close relationship. 89 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: Based on my perspective, that's what it looked like as teammates. Anyway, 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: they were very it seemed like they were very close 91 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: as teammates. 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 5: Yep. And this isn't scores. I don't know. 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: Nick is a guy who we've had him on the 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: show several times a couple of times, but he's quiet 95 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: guy by nature. You're not getting a lot out of him, correct, So, 96 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: but that's just the perception that I had. I do 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: wonder if that played a part. Kareem visited the New 98 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: Orleans Saints, he visited the Indianapolis Colts. Everything you said 99 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: is on point. He will be able to if you 100 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: needed twenty two carries out of Kareem Hunt on Sunday, 101 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: provided he's in shape, no problem. He knows the offense, 102 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: he knows the terminology, He's not going to be lost 103 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: on pass pro. He knows everything that's required of him 104 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: in this offense. He knows it front and back. But 105 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: there's also that other part. I do wonder if emotionally, 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go pick up my guy. 107 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 5: My guy's out. 108 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: And I wonder if the Browns view it that way too, 109 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: that everybody who knows what Nick is all about, if 110 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: you would know it better than. 111 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt agreed. 112 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: No, I think that that certainly could have played a 113 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: role in it. I think that, yeah, the bond that 114 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: he has, you know, with a lot of guys on 115 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: this team, the bond he had with Nick Chubb, and 116 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: then his familiarity with the offense. 117 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he was a huge leader or 118 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: you know when he first those first few years twenty 119 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: and twenty one, I mean early start to twenty one twenty, 120 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he was a vocal, big time, a bell 121 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: cow leader. 122 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: At twenty one, I mean he basically he made a 123 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: couple of plays that really helped win the game in 124 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 4: Minnesota if you remember that one, and that kind of 125 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: you know, there was also some turmoilt game out of 126 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: that game, but yeah, absolutely kind of was a heart 127 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: and soul of the team type of guy. Lose you know, 128 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: the heart and soul in Nick Chubb, and so you're 129 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: hoping that maybe you can you can get back to that. 130 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: And I think if Kream Hunt can come in and 131 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: just you know, give you some good short yardage work, 132 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: give you, you know, some good pass blocking, some catches 133 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 4: out of the backfield, I think that would go a 134 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 4: long way to help this football team. 135 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: And so he's going to get that opportunity. 136 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: I do think Jerome Ford is going to be the 137 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: main runner still and now we'll just see what they 138 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 4: can do. 139 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: You know, with Kareem Hunt in the mix. 140 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: There were times when his running style would provide a 141 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: jolt of energy. 142 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it was so violent. 143 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: Play on the sideline against Minnesota meam it was like 144 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: a shutdown and he ran over like eight guys. Yeah, 145 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: the way that he ran in the in the playoff 146 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: went over the Steelers, the way he ran over Spilaying 147 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 4: the linebacker just trucked him into the end zone. So yeah, 148 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 4: I definitely think that there is there's an emotional component 149 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: that there wouldn't be with other players. There's a closeness 150 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: with Nick, there's a closeness with many plate people on 151 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: this team. There's a familiarity and it's just kind of 152 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: a no brainer on every level. There's one other thing 153 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: that's that I want to run by you as well. 154 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 4: Stylistic Kareem style fits very well with what I think 155 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: we're going to have to do offensively now with Deshaun Watson, 156 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: a primarily shotgun attack, primarily him not turning his back 157 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: to the field, surveying everything. Kareem was his best year 158 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: as a pro was doing just that in Kansas City. 159 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what he did. He stood next to 160 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, he took inside handoffs, ran draws and those 161 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: ran red and all of that type of stuff and 162 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: pass protected. So stylistically it works too. 163 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you would think that there is certainly some comfort 164 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: in that regard for him, in the sense that you know, 165 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 4: he did a great job and really you know that 166 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: first year that he was able to be with Mahomes 167 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: m he played only eleven games that year, and in 168 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: those eleven games he had twelve hundred and two total 169 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: yards and fourteen touchdowns, including a game here in Cleveland 170 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: where he. 171 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely took us to the woodshed. 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: So that was his successful year when you look at 173 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: it in terms of, you know, his rushing success rate, 174 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: you look in terms of his receiving success rate in 175 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: terms of overall just production yards per target. His yards 176 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: per touch that year was a career high five point eight. 177 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: So I do think there is something to be said 178 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: for having comfort in that type of a system. He's 179 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: also a very reliable pass blocker, even though Jordan Ford 180 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: did a very good job of that in his debut. 181 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: I think there are so there are a lot of 182 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: reasons this makes a lot of sense, and I think 183 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: what we'll find out now is what does you know 184 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt look like in twenty twenty three and if. 185 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: It can be how much gases in the tank, if 186 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: it can be close. 187 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: Eighty percent even of what he was in twenty twenty 188 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: and twenty twenty one, And I think for the Browns 189 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: that will be a very very good thing. 190 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do think whatever his best is, you'll 191 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: get it. 192 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any doubt about that. Yeah, Kareem's 193 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: gonna give you everything he's got. That's the way he's wired. 194 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: And it's good. 195 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: I mean, it's gonna be another guy that's gonna have 196 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 4: a big level of give a damn on this football team. 197 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: And that's what we're gonna need to rally through this adversity. 198 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 4: And it's gonna start with, you know, can care of 199 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: business against the Tennessee Titans. 200 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: This Sunday certainly is speaking of the Tennessee Titans, we 201 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: turn our attention to them. This is a team that's 202 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 2: obviously we'll not doing all the matchup stuff right now, 203 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: but just from the from a from a team perspective, 204 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: this one's gonna come quick short week anyway. Dealing with 205 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: the chub issues. This Tennessee team is kind of a 206 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: mismash of parts that don't really make a lot of sense. 207 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: Yet somehow they lose by a point in the opener. 208 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: They beat the Chargers at their place. They are expertly 209 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: coached by Northeast Ohio native Mike Rabel. They have incredible 210 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: when it comes to accountability, character, They will play smart. 211 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: They just kind of are better than the sum of 212 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: their parts and are better than honestly with their roster 213 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: makes no sense. 214 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: I mean, so I was going through this today and 215 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 4: I actually have my Titans portions of the board's done it. 216 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 4: They're productive Wednesday mortgage out. So they're starting four new 217 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: people on their offensive line. They start three undrafted free 218 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: agents on their offensive line. Chris Hubbard formerly the Browns, 219 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: as their starting right tackle. Daniel Brunskill was a former 220 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: undrafted free agent for the Falcons back in seventeen. He's 221 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: starting at right guard. The center Aaron Brewer was an 222 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 4: undrafted free agent in twenty twenty and has only made 223 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: four career starts at center in his career twenty five 224 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: starts overall, four center, twenty one at guard. Then they 225 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: drafted Peter Skaranski, who was the eleventh overall pick but 226 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: missed last week dude an illness, So he's their first rounder. 227 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: He'd be the left guard if he gets to start, 228 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: and then the left tackle is Andre Dillard, who many 229 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: people will remembers the first round pick of the Eagles, 230 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: who never got to start for them, and they after 231 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: four years, no need to reget your fifth year option. 232 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: We'll see on down the road. Forty five games, he's 233 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: only started eleven games in his career, So you think 234 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: about you might have a left tackle he's only started 235 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: eleven games, a left guard who's making his second start, 236 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: a center who's making his fifth start at center against 237 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: art defensive front. I mean, and you feel like, okay, 238 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: that's got to be a big advantage for us. And 239 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: you kind of go through this team and on the 240 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: d defensive side of the ball, you got Jeffrey Simmons, 241 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 4: he's a stud. Danico Autry is still amazing how good 242 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: he is. The other three linemen are all former undrafted 243 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: free agents. In fact, Autrey himself is. But at this 244 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: point when you've been we have fifty career sacks. Okay, 245 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 4: that's pretty legit. They've got undrafted free agents all over 246 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: the linebacker room. I mean it is, it is. Yeah, 247 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: there's not a lot of what was considered at any 248 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: point to be top tier talent on this football team. 249 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 5: And yeah, it's wild. 250 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: And yet beat the Chargers at home last week and 251 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: went over to the to the very end of it 252 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: with New Orleans at New Orleans in week one. From 253 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: our perspective, turning the page, it's going to be about tone. 254 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 5: It's going to be. 255 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: About four primarily, honestly, it's that this has been a 256 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb team. It is a Deshaun Watson team. It 257 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: was going to head into that direction at some point eventually, 258 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: but this is now in four. 259 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: We trust, well the time is the time is now right. 260 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: I mean you look at you look at what he's 261 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: got to do, and it's going to be be an 262 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: elite quarterback. And well you've got If you're looking for 263 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: a matchup where you think things can maybe turned around 264 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: for Deshaun Watson, how about this. He's taken on the 265 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans five of six career games against them, one 266 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 4: hundred plus, rating ninety plus, all six seventeen touchdowns, five picks, 267 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 4: averaging two hundred ninety one yards passing the game, nine 268 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: yards per attempt in one hundred and nineteen point two rating. 269 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: His seventeen touchdowns are the most against any team in 270 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 4: his career. He also had two hundred eight yards rushing 271 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: and two touchdowns on the ground, So basically, he's produced 272 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: nineteen touchdowns in six games against this Tennessee Titans team. 273 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 4: And this is a Titans team that is struggling. Their 274 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: pass defense is ranked fifth in the league, but when 275 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: you take out the sacks, because they have seven sacks, 276 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: they've given up three hundred and five yards passing exactly, 277 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: which is crazy to Carr and to Herbert. They have 278 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: a lot of three passing touchdowns on the season. They're 279 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: living up sixty eight percent completion seven point six yards 280 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: per attempt, which is fourth most in the NFL. That's 281 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: also wild defense is it is harder to pass the 282 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: ball down the field now. 283 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: I feel like than ever in the NFL. 284 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 5: It's Mahomes. 285 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: There was a piece I can't remember if it was 286 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: PFF or it was right about how to check this level, 287 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: about how they've changed coverages. It's basically and it's a 288 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: reaction to what Mahomes has been and this notion of 289 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: give them this stuff underneath all day and see if 290 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: they'll have the patience to continue to take it and 291 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: be accurate in it right and take those things underneath, 292 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 2: because we are not giving it up top. 293 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: No, So this is a game I think to get healthy. 294 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 4: Last year, the Titans were the worst pass defense in 295 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: the NFL. This year they are at the bottom once again, 296 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: you know. And so this is Deshaun Watson's games team 297 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: He's played very well against. It's a it's an opponent 298 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: that quite frankly, is a little bit banged up in 299 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 4: their secondary and not that talented to begin with, even 300 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: at one hundred percent. Other than you got to watch 301 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,119 Speaker 4: out for Kevin Bayard in his twenty seven career interceptions. 302 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: We do not want to repeat of twenty seventeen when 303 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: he came here and picked off the Sean Kaiser three times. 304 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: That would not be good. But no, this is this 305 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: is a very good matchup. Jeffrey Simmons is a stud. 306 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: Autrey's very good. And they've got two rushers off the edge, 307 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: Arden Key and Harold Landry who absolutely can get to 308 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 4: the quarterback. And so the Browns are going to have 309 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: to be no past per tention is once again an issue. 310 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: This is a three to four defense, much like we 311 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: saw with the Pittsburgh Steelers. 312 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: Yep. 313 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: And so some of the things that we are able 314 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: to do against the Steelers, well, that's good. It's interesting. 315 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: People have thrown the ball all over this Titans team. 316 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: Nobody's run it now. The Saints are without Jamal without 317 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara, the Chargers are without Austin Eckler. 318 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 5: Yep. 319 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: But so far they are they're giving like two point 320 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: six yards of care. They're like our run defense, which 321 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: has been elite. 322 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: Those are your hot topics present of a Vivid Seats 323 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: Officials fan experienced partner of your Cleveland Brown's. Coming up next, 324 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: we hit one thought around the league. 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Otherwise I'm 341 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 5: just gonna be angry all week, and we all need that. 342 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 5: That doesn't lead to anything productive. 343 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. 344 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 5: For nick Baby, that's right. 345 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: For Chubb, for once, For Chubby, let's go cocktails, take 346 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: care of our guys. 347 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 5: Champagne wishes cavy our dreams exactly. Do you like caviar? No, 348 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: me either. I think it sucks. 349 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: It's like drinking the ocean. 350 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 5: It sucks. 351 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: I don't get it. It's a lot of it's very 352 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: expensive to like drink salt water. 353 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: When we we I had it, we were in wine country. Uh, 354 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: it was the blonde's birthday and we got engaged and 355 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: we were at a nice joint and they had the 356 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: beluga whatever and it was an absurd price, but it 357 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: was celebratory let's try it. And they brought it out 358 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: and I was thinking, well, this is I can't wait. 359 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I've heard about this forever and I just 360 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: went it's Jim Carrey in East Ventura. 361 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 362 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 5: I showed that preview. 363 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: I showed that trailer to the boys over the weekends. 364 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: What do you think, fellas? I think we might run 365 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: on the lace Ventura by them. That's never on. I never, 366 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: that's never seen. 367 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 5: I've seen a Cable guy more than I've seen. 368 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cable Guy is Cable Eyes great too, But Ventura 369 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: is unbelievable. Yeah, the Nature Calls is unbelievable. Tommy Davidson 370 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: come Home. 371 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: Unbelievable is very high. 372 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 5: Dude. 373 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: When the when he grabs that little guy and he 374 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: throws him around on his thing like he's a Oh 375 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 2: come on, that's unbuilt. 376 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 5: That's perfect. It's so great, so many great scenes. 377 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: The rhino costume, come on, what do you want. 378 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: When Tommy Davidson he fights Tommy Davidson unreal, so good. 379 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what we're going to try next. 380 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 5: So that were you giving? Are they moving on? Here 381 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: we go, We're rolling. I mean, that's it. It's a 382 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 5: beautiful day. By the way, a nice little string of 383 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 5: weather here. 384 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we getting on Sunday seventy two? 385 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: Okay, it's supposed to be cloudy. Okay, but that was 386 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 5: all supposed also supposed to feed the home opener, and 387 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 5: we know what happened there. So yeah, I mean it's 388 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 5: supposed to be near eighty tomorrow. 389 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're we're seventy eight, seventy eight, seventy nine, 390 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: seventy two, seventy one, basically no chance of raining. 391 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 5: No, it's great all the way through Sunday. I just 392 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 5: got my lawn errated and I was hoping to plant 393 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 5: some grass, but hold off on that. Yeah, water in 394 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: the lawn. 395 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta wait till a Monday on that. Then 396 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to be all set up. 397 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 5: Yep, there you go. Gosh, this is a great stretch. 398 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: That's what I mean. 399 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: Over this is the best month to live here. It's September, September, 400 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: all shifted, no humidity. 401 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: Great, it's perfect. 402 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: In other words, this is what like Santa Barbara is 403 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: year round. Yeah, seventy two and sunny, no humidity. 404 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 5: We'll get to one thought just a minute. Did you 405 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 5: see this from Carolina? Go Ahead, utilized Andy Dalton as 406 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 5: a designated fourth down QB, and Monday Nights lost to 407 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 5: the Saints. 408 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 409 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: Dalton replaced Bryce Young twice in short yarded situations, one 410 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: side swiped by a false start and the other a 411 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 5: pitch to Miles Sanders. Frank Wich noted that Dalton taking 412 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: short yarded reps could be part of the plan moving forward. 413 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 5: He said, there's a lot of different things. I'll get 414 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 5: to you. There's a lot of different things we could do. 415 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 5: But I just feel very comfortable, and Andy Wich said 416 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 5: on Tuesday and some of those things you just want 417 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 5: to limit the exposure of Bryce too. And Bryce can 418 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 5: do any of it. But you've got an experienced veteran, 419 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 5: mister Bishop. 420 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: Can we trade for him to do that up here? 421 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: So like in short yard is j Andy Dalton just 422 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: runs in and we just run sneaks? 423 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: How about we just Shan Watson? 424 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know, maybe we don't want to 425 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: do it with him whatever, Like just get a guy, 426 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: what about you could just do that or chief like 427 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: someone I mean, but like give me somebody who could 428 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: take who's taking snaps? Like I just want a guy 429 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 2: to just fall forward like Jalen Hurts, Like just go 430 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: forward and people pushing him, just just get the yard. 431 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: We don't need to run option opposite ways, like let's 432 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: just just Yes, that was my question, and he referenced. 433 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 5: Wright said later on, he referenced, we had Jacobe Brissette. 434 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 5: We brought him in on some short yards yardis situations good? 435 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: Yes, and Indy they did that. 436 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, I want it. 437 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why more teams didn't install the 438 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: Philly play this offseason. 439 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 3: First of all, they need to ban it, which of course, 440 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: but they haven't and they didn't. 441 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: So yes, so like, as long as that's the case, 442 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: every team in the league, it's that play. 443 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 5: It is a free yard. 444 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: He is exceptional with his leg strength and drive and 445 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: all of that, right, but it's not Tom Brady didn't 446 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: have that. 447 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: He was unbe and he's not exponentially stronger with his 448 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: legs than Deshaun Watson. 449 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 3: No, I would, so come on, yes, let's go. 450 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 5: Let's go with that. We'll get into this little McVeigh 451 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 5: thing as part of one thought. 452 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: But oh god, my dad is so mad about it. 453 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 4: I'm like, you didn't even bet on the game. What 454 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: do you care he goes it's the manipulating betting lines, 455 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: that is that is fact. It is not manipulating a 456 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: betting line. It has nothing to do with the betting line. 457 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: It has to do with the fact that maybe he 458 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: wanted to reward his supporters. That's what I That's the 459 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: only thing that makes sense. But it was it should 460 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: be No, every only thing it could be. 461 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: I've never seen a team do that in that scenario 462 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: where it's down to the last play. 463 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: I think they thought that they would be able to 464 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: get that off and have a chance a nonside kick 465 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: for second four seconds. 466 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: No, but I don't think they thought it. 467 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: Was going to take that long when initially and what 468 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: he says is, we were trying get a field go asons, 469 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: we got field a range, We're gonn. 470 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 5: Kick a field goal. 471 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: You know what it says on the on most of 472 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: the walls in the Ohio State practiceacility, what four to 473 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: six A to B four is the minimum amount of 474 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: time for an NFL play. If you run a scrimmage play, 475 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: you can spike it in less, but four. 476 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 5: Is the minimum. 477 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: What they're asking is four to six goes for four 478 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: to six seconds is the average play get from point 479 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: A to point be as fas as we can. 480 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 5: Four seconds. 481 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: That was the number. There was four on the clock. 482 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: There was no more play. 483 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: No. 484 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 4: I think it was absolutely done to either as he said, 485 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: they have it right first. 486 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: But I think if he wanted to reward. 487 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 5: A support his supporters who bet on his team. 488 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: And give his kicker an opportunity. Remember they got ri 489 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 4: McKay was their Pro Bowl kicker. 490 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: He's gone, yeah, but normally you would just have Stafford 491 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: throw it into the end zone or whatever. 492 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 5: He said, will get it. Like it was an opportunity 493 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 5: to be able to not leave Matt Stafford susceptible to 494 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 5: an unnecessary heat to the end zone. 495 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't win the game, well they were, they were 496 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: down ten. 497 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: You could have also taken a knee. But in my mind, and. 498 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: Let's just let's just go crazy devil's out. Let's say 499 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 4: that it had nothing to do with the line. I 500 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 4: believe that there was some portion of this is friends 501 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: with the line. 502 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: Do you know who McVeigh poale's around with a little 503 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: bit out there, No al Michaels. 504 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah he's aware. So maybe he did it for al Michaels. 505 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 5: Maybe he did it for al Michaels could have. 506 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 4: Well, he certainly helped me out, but I think that 507 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: at that point, and this is just it's probably unconventional 508 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 4: because you don't see it. But let's just say they 509 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: won their first game. 510 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: It is a new kicker. 511 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: They had a guy who's a pro bowler, Matt Gay, 512 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 4: who I think is now kicking for the Colts. 513 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: I want to say he's somewhere. 514 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 4: He left, He sent a free agent, he sent a 515 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: free agent deal somewhere, So they have a new kicker. 516 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 4: Maybe he thinks that their team is a little bit 517 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 4: better than they used to be and they want this 518 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 4: kicker to get reps in a preseason we talked about 519 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: with us, like there were times when I said, what 520 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: are we doing trying to score? Let's go send kaid 521 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: Yorik out there and get a field goal so that 522 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 4: we can figure out what's going on with him. Sure, 523 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 4: k York makes his return this week as the on 524 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: the practice squad of the Tennessee Titans. So maybe he 525 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: was just saying, we can't win the game. There isn't 526 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 4: a play that exists where we can win the game. 527 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 4: Let me get something of value out of this and Oh, 528 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 4: by the way, if he makes it great for his 529 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: confidence and rams, fans who bet on their team will 530 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 4: be happier than not. 531 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: You make a lot of great points. I think it's 532 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: probably Uncle Al had ten stacks on the RAMS and 533 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: it went from ten to seven and a half. 534 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: Aware of like is aware of the betting lions, say 535 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski. You said Sean McVay is aware of betting lines. 536 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 537 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: Sure, I think that played a role in it. 538 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: I think you make a lot of good points. I 539 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: think my way to validate that's all of that validates it. 540 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: You can spin it that way, but it's by the way, 541 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to help my guys out. And if he 542 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: did that, so what, I don't care he it hurt 543 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: me in the scores. Why would of like, Well, because 544 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 2: they don't want them to even ever acknowledge that they 545 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: have any part of that. So that's why you don't 546 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: say it. Yeah, but no, I mean it's great he 547 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: rewarded people who believed in his team. Yes, it was 548 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: crazy in real time though, like to run two minutes 549 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: spike it and then. 550 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: I think they were trying to get I think if well, 551 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: nobody would have cared about it if it was the 552 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: play before it got him there with like ten seconds 553 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 4: and they can nobody would care. 554 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 5: Nobody would have cared. 555 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: Correct Or if you would have kicked the field goal 556 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: in the previous play, it wasn't it. 557 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 4: A little far because it still up a forty something 558 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: yarder and that was like a fifteen yard pass. 559 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 5: To Yeah, you're right, it would have been a sixty 560 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: two yard are Yeah. Yeah, the Rams still formidable. 561 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: Maybe a Stafford's he's really good and they're throwing to humans. 562 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: No one's ever heard of a kid from Yu Williams 563 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: start to his career. Yeah, like they don't. I don't 564 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: even know who they have. And they're in Stafford's go 565 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: to that well, yeah. 566 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: Formerer, it's like a second or third of EA. I 567 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 4: like him, but he was too serious, diminutive, but he's bad. 568 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: They can't really trade Stafford though, right the contract contracts brutal. 569 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like they would. I mean you put him 570 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 5: on Atlanta good Night. 571 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: Yeah's a squad Atlanta's it seemed to be doing just 572 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: fine though. 573 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 5: Right, but there's not a huge ceiling on its c 574 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: They're in the NFC South, did they have to be? Yeah? 575 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: There are three teams. 576 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 5: We'll see how that Baker's lighting it up. It's amazing. 577 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Evans Philly Week, throw the bombs. 578 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, did have to say about the Niners? 579 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: He was what about their team? 580 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 581 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: About the win, he's very pleased. 582 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: Okay, but like he wanted to cover. 583 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just thought, who knows. 584 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: Do you know what he's probably most mad about if 585 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: the if the forty nine ers would have won, it 586 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: would have validated what I said that I was the 587 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: Sonny wish he had. And then it goes the other way. 588 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: It's just I'm just more disappointment. 589 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am the Sun, that's right. Sorry, Well, I'm sorry. 590 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 5: Well I am I am the Sun, the eldest son. 591 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: Listen, he obviously likes me a little. 592 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 4: He's coming here to stay or maybe who knows how 593 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: you read this, he's coming here to stay for ten days, 594 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: is he is? 595 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? 596 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was like, that feels a little long. 597 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 5: You need to you need to send him to the 598 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 5: condo or something for. 599 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: A couple of times, couple of days. If he wants 600 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: to go up on the lake, get up on the 601 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: lake and why not. 602 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, hit up some wineries. 603 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's coming in the Sunday before the Niners game, 604 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: So the Sunday of our bye week, and then he 605 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: is leaving Tuesday after the Niners game. 606 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: I have a strict six night policy with my father, strict. 607 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 5: That's the max. We'll see anything over well, and I'm 608 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 5: not on vacation. Why didn't he come? Yeah, like you 609 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 5: had time off? 610 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, but well we'll think. Sure, there's 611 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: a lot of good food eating. 612 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of Scollies. 613 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 4: Boy, I was gonna say, sure to stock up. 614 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 5: All right. What thought from Week two in the National 615 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 5: Football League and we kick things off? Seahawks Lions, Seahawks 616 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 5: thirty seven, Lions thirty one, both teams now one and 617 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 5: one on the football season, Bishop, one thought from. 618 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: You, It's just one that if you're I mean, this 619 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: was the Lions. The Lions loss to Seattle was our 620 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: loss to Pittsburgh, Like it just was. It would have 621 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: been such a tremendous thing for them to start to 622 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: and oh to beat an NFC, an NFC team at home. 623 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: Got through just a terrible pick six in this game. 624 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: But he's been so good, he's been awesome. He's been 625 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: so good. But he threw a brutal pick six. It's 626 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: a heartbreaking loss for them. It's so much into it. 627 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, brutal Montgomery goes down with an injuries. 628 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how long that's gonna be, but it 629 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: sounds like a thigh bruise. But that's that's a bit 630 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: of a blow as well. It's just I just feel 631 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: sick for them because they could have started to and oh, 632 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: which would have been fun. 633 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: How bad? 634 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: Like how bad is a bruise that means you can't 635 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 4: play football? 636 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: Like it must be gnarly, I would say, I can't 637 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: even I mean, I can't like a black and blue 638 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 2: perspective like that type of bruise. 639 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I mean that's a lot going on. Yeah, yeah, 640 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 5: like we. 641 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: All have bruises, you know, like you can usually manage. 642 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: But we've had a knee bruise, keep Kelsey out of 643 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 4: a game, and we're gonna have a thigh bruise. 644 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, these are some intense bruises. 645 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 5: They are. 646 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there must be something beyond what I know understanding blues. 647 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 5: Could be like a blood bluster underneath or something. 648 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. 649 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: It's like maybe it hit was such a hard hit 650 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: that it like the muscles like instead of it's like cupped. 651 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: We're not doctors. I have no clue, not a doctor. No, 652 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: it's gotta be a lot of. 653 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: Pain, all right for me. 654 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: And this one, uh take away, Gino Smith and the 655 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: Seahawks can still sling it Jackson Smith and Jig but 656 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: just doesn't look fast to me. 657 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: And I don't know what it is. 658 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: It was kind of weird to be watching that game 659 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: watching him and then I have to tell you, even 660 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 4: though the guy got hit with a fifteen yard penalty 661 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: and he was completely in the wrong for hitting Jared Goff. 662 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: Have you seen the reverse the end zone angle of that, 663 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: and he he hits him and is celebrating like he 664 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: just got the greatest sack in the history of the world. 665 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 5: Sacked the quarterback, right. 666 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: So then you know on some level it's not It 667 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 4: was not dirty or malicious in any way. 668 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 5: He thought he's he thought playfak? Was that good? Yeah 669 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 5: by Gough that he thought he sacked the quarterback. 670 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 4: The funny thing is though Goff did the good playfake 671 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 4: and then he just sitd in the pocket totally still. 672 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy just creamed him, crushed him. 673 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: Then he's like coral. 674 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 5: Like fifty yards. 675 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: I mean he we had to be When they were like, dude, 676 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: what are you doing, It'd be like, what are you 677 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 4: talking about? 678 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? Sacks actum, dummy, dummy. They ran it. 679 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: That was a running play, is a running play. 680 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 5: It was unreal. What up next? From the AFC North. 681 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: We haven't even touched on this and it's Wednesday. I 682 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 5: think we did a little bit on Monday. We did 683 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: on Monday. Ye forgot that Monday. Monday happened? Monday did happen? 684 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 5: Ravens twenty seven the Bengals fall to zero to two 685 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 5: to twenty four for the Bengals, five catches for thirty 686 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 5: one yards for Jamar Chase. 687 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 4: They starting to get a little bit unhappy. Throw it 688 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 4: down the field, go routes. I thought the Bengals had 689 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: every chance to win this game. 690 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not like Baltimore. 691 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: Baltmore was not great. Their offense seems to be drop back, 692 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: if it's there right away, throw it. If not, run 693 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: and or you can kind of run and then throw 694 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 4: it just it doesn't It was not a very in 695 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: rhythm offense, but certainly it's been effective. They put up 696 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: twenty some points on them. I like said is the 697 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 4: powerback compliment. If this is what they're gonna do, it 698 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: is kind of spread people out and then you have 699 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 4: He kind of reminds me of being like an Ironhead 700 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: Hayward in the The Run and Shoot of the Atlanta 701 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: Falcons back in the early nineties, team that I have 702 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 4: a great affection for. 703 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: If you don't know. 704 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: The Bengals are in trouble, they're in trouble. It's one 705 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 4: thing to be oh and two and try to be 706 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 4: the outlier, you know, a year after year after year. 707 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 4: It's another thing where if Burrow doesn't play this week, 708 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: you got to think that they're looking at at oh 709 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: to three, right. 710 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: So their Monday it's Monday Night against the ram Rams. Yeah, 711 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: I think the number the number one thought for here 712 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: is will Burrow ever be healthy this year? 713 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 5: I mean he so he was limping bad at the 714 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 5: end of the day. So the injury happens. 715 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: First week of camp, first second day of camp, injury happens, 716 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: He sits out all of camp. Jamar Chase goes on 717 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: NFL Network and says, I really don't want to see 718 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: Hi until week five, Like I want him one hundred 719 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: percent healthy before he plays. They play week one. I mean, 720 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: you're looking it's Browns. It's a divisional game. You open 721 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: a two divisional games, you can't, I'm sure from his 722 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: perspective and knowing that we can, we. 723 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 5: Can't punt on these. 724 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: We got to give it our best shot, even a 725 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: not all the way back. Joe Burrow gives us that, 726 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: go back to our game on the you guys are 727 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: obviously there, but just from on the television, they he 728 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: was consistently monkeying. 729 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 5: Around with that calf. 730 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 2: He had bands, he was getting it stretched, he was 731 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: trying to stay on the exercise bike. Yeah, they had 732 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: a lot going on to try to keep that thing loose. 733 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: It never worked. And if you watch him walking off 734 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: the field Sunday with a noticeable limp, and you hear 735 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor in his availability so far this week acknowledging 736 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: that there's a big problem. We're going to listen to doctors. 737 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: They're in big trouble. Big so he could be out. 738 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: And the question is, even if he sits out two weeks, 739 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: will he ever really be healthy? Thereby isn't until I 740 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: want to say, like October tenth or something like that 741 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: second week of October. 742 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 5: It's a long. Wait, so like you can't sit all 743 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: that out. 744 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 3: No, so that would be if it's so, is that 745 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: the same week as our bye? 746 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 5: I think it's a week after us. 747 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: So then that would be week six. Let's see. 748 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 5: I believe it's a week after. 749 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: It might even be later. Then, yeah, it's later. It 750 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 4: is week seven, Okay, week seven. So he's got four 751 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: more games to go. 752 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 3: Before they get there. 753 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 5: I don't know it is. 754 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: They're in a little bit of trouble and and. 755 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 5: Zay Flowers is a full day. 756 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: Well here's the other thing. And by the way, Zay 757 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: Flowers excellent. The notion Burrows not one hundred percent, that's 758 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 4: a problem for him, but the notion that their defense 759 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 4: was just gonna be fine. Von Bell and Jesse Baits 760 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: already have I think like at least three interceptions between 761 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 4: the two of them. Yeah, just getting rid of those safeties, 762 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 4: sliding everybody up. I mean, it often doesn't work that 763 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 4: way you wanted to. It's great when that hat does, 764 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: but it's not always that easy. Yeah, it's not always. Oh, 765 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: we have trades to find Diggs, We draft us and 766 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 4: Jefferson and we just carry on about our business. Oh 767 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: we lose you know, Jesse Bates, while we drafted this 768 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: guy in the first. 769 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: Round like it was going to be the same. 770 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 5: So but that's how that always operated. I mean, remember 771 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 5: there there was one point in when when Hugh was 772 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 5: still down there and Marvin was the head coach, Like, 773 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 5: do you remember looking at the roster there were only 774 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 5: like three free agents everybody guys they brought in. 775 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but Burrow being great covered a lot of that. 776 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 2: Great quarterback play covers shortcomings, and he's not because he's 777 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: not healthy. 778 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: Here here's the other thing that I took away from this. 779 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 4: There is no great team in our division as it 780 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 4: stands today. Now, the Bengals have issues. The Steelers are 781 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 4: not good, even though they we were worse. We are 782 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: our quarterback playing at the level that he is capable 783 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 4: of playing away from being really really good. 784 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 3: But losing Nick Chubb is a major blow. 785 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 4: And I think the Ravens are Their defense is not 786 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 4: great and their offense is middling. 787 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 5: Right, yeah, no, I agree. Up next from the bigger 788 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 5: games in Week two, the Packers lose their first game 789 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 5: of the year. The Falcons now two to zero. Falcons 790 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 5: twenty five, Packers twenty four. Bishop One thought from you, 791 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 5: Atlanta if they had a quarterback, could win the NFC. 792 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 5: I think. 793 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: I mean they Bejon looks amazing, great defense, really good defense, 794 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: their receiving talents nice. And keep in mind they gave it. 795 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: They give Calvin Ridley away for a bucket of balls. 796 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: Like, can you imagine if he was on this team too, Yeah. 797 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 2: Ridley and Pits wouldn't get the ball. Pits doesn't, No, no, 798 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 2: no one can. So like if they had a real quarterback, 799 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: they'd be really crazy. My prediction is that Jordan Love 800 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: will end up being this year's like justin Fields, Whereas 801 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: from a fantasy standpoint, he's great, but I don't know 802 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: that it's going to equal to some of its parts. 803 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 2: He was pretty bad in the fourth quarter of this game. 804 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: I watched quite a bit of this game as it was. 805 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 5: He was dreadful. 806 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: But fantasy wise, like NBC's doing cartwheels. I told you 807 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: he scored points, so he's gonna put up fantasy stats. 808 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: He's thrown for one hundred and fifty yards a. 809 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 2: Game, right, but he's gonna get red zone stuff. He's 810 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,479 Speaker 2: gonna run ball in inside the you know he's gonna 811 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 2: get a lot of that. So I think that's three. 812 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 5: Fourth quarter drives, not one first down. 813 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 4: This is what I thought he was bad. He's very 814 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 4: bad when they need to throw it. Yeah, they have 815 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 4: some when they get Christian Watson back. Between Watson, I 816 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 4: think that Jayden reed kid, they drafted the second round 817 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 4: and this year is gonna be pretty good. So I 818 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 4: kind of like some of their talent. I'm yeah, concerned 819 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: about him. 820 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: Atlanta. 821 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 4: Here's the thing that and I woke up to a 822 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 4: text from where a good friend, Tyvis Powell, all the 823 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 4: Falcons are tuned out. Like I never said they were 824 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 4: gonna be bad, he kept. But what I said was 825 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: they are not a serious team, and they aren't a 826 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 4: serious team right now because they have zero chance zero 827 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 4: to go to the super Bowl as they're currently constructed. 828 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 4: Zero They needed like what they're trying to do. I 829 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: don't think people even realize this. If you asked tesse 830 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 4: He Titans went to the playoffs three straight years. They 831 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: were the number one seed in the AFC one of 832 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: those years two years ago with the very good defense YEP, 833 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: dominant running back Derrick Henry and Tannehill is by the way, 834 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 4: light years better than Desmon Ridder But they were never 835 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 4: a threat to actually win. 836 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 5: The Super Bowl because they can't score enough. No. 837 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 4: This you you get ahead of this Atlanta team. I 838 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 4: think you're gonna be just fine. 839 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: Ritter is not good. 840 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 4: No, I'd almost if I was that, I'd almost want 841 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 4: to see Taylor Heineke because at least he can sling 842 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 4: it and make some plays. 843 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 3: A little bit of got a little gun slinger in him. 844 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I think that the Packers they're 845 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 4: not dangerous. 846 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: Obviously you lose Aaron Rodgers. You know, I was thinking 847 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 3: last night. 848 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 4: Imagine like we had a build up for like Game 849 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 4: of Thrones like that when he got all the hype 850 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 4: and Sean Bee. Everything was centered around Sean Bean. Now 851 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: Sean Bean is if you don't know this, alrighty too 852 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 4: bad spoiler alert covery ers, you haven't watched it. The 853 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: season one of the game thrown is really not my problem. 854 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 4: He's out after episode nine. 855 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 5: Yep. 856 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 4: What happened with Aaron Rodgers is like every Game of 857 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 4: Thrones poster, trailer, whatever, the whole and then he doesn't 858 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 4: even get to make it in episode one. 859 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 5: Yeah. Correct, Like this whole season. 860 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 4: In the NFL, the biggest storyline was Aaron Rodgers. He 861 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 4: had a vehicle that was basically his own documentary about 862 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 4: getting ready for this present and then gone in an instant, 863 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: And it's crazy. 864 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 2: And the Jets are a disaster. 865 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 4: Now they are a disaster, like the fact they have 866 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 4: a trade for a quarterback is and ye insane to me. 867 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 5: Where's the CBSA crew on Sunday? 868 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 3: Awful? 869 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 5: That's chzy? How do you make Patriots? So I I 870 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 5: did some homework. First three weeks are mapped out before 871 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 5: the season starts. They're stuck. Nance hasn't had a good game. 872 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 5: Nance has had Eagles, Patriots, Cowboys, Jets and now Patriots Jets. 873 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: Gosh, why would they map that out? 874 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 5: They map out the first couple of weeks, so like 875 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 5: they now know what their week four assignment is and 876 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 5: it'll be It should. 877 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 2: Be so weird to me that you why would you 878 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,720 Speaker 2: feel the need to map out the first three. 879 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 5: Weeks just from a travel I don't. 880 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: Get grief Like, it's not like Nance is flying commercial. 881 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: This is another one of those dumb staggered Mondays. 882 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: Coming up to Yeah, it's another one of those Yeah, 883 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: I mean, however. 884 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: Nance could have done the Miami games. Now I agree 885 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: I agree Broncos Miami would be the only. 886 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 2: That's a much better game. Agreed that it's much more 887 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 2: fun to do that game. 888 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 5: Frankly, our game is probably one of the top three 889 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 5: in the a f C. Yeah, it's not. It's not 890 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 5: a great slate. And yet Chargers that's. 891 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: So great in theory a good game. They're both owing too. 892 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: But I think that that's gonna be the most entertaining game. 893 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, all right, one quick thought, uh, Commies go 894 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 5: to and no Broncos zero to two. Commi's win thirty 895 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 5: five thirty three. They tried to give it away at 896 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 5: the very end. Sam Hell might be okay. 897 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 2: He made a couple of throws in that game that 898 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: were pretty impressive, and he was a guy that a 899 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: lot of people thought people were going to tank for 900 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: until he played that that next season at North Carolina, 901 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 2: so his talent was was never a quite He's getting 902 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 2: a real look and he looks pretty good. 903 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 4: For which game Washington, Washington Russ still looks broken. Marvin 904 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 4: Mims is nice vertical, They can't run the ball. Their 905 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 4: offensive line is their line might be one of the 906 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 4: worst in the league. And I think that's gonna be 907 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 4: a big problem for the Denver Broncos. Sam how a 908 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 4: little bit of moxie. I like that Robinson is a hammer. 909 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 4: Think about what that guy a year ago, that guy 910 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 4: wasn't That guy wasn't playing because he'd been shot in 911 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 4: the leg in a carjacking. 912 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 2: He's a monster too. He's a monster to Alabama, a big, 913 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: physical guy. 914 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 3: Physical they have. 915 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 4: They have a little toughness, but with McLaurin with dots 916 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 4: and they've got the ability to throw it. And I 917 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 4: will say that I will consider for a very very 918 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 4: long time the fact that Logan Thomas held onto that 919 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 4: ball to be one of the most impressive things that 920 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 4: I've seen. 921 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: Because that cheap shows you're going to see in the league. 922 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 4: Like that was a cheap shot. That was, without question 923 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: a cheap shot. And then they they tossed him. 924 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 3: He was going, I mean. 925 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 5: Immediately, Chiefs down the Jaguars seventeen to nine. Ugly, gross, gross. 926 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 4: Gross, And you wonder, like, how does that happen? Where 927 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 4: this game offensively is so bad? And from I think 928 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 4: it's more concerning from the Jaguars perspective. Now, when you 929 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 4: watched it, they were so close. I think they had 930 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 4: two touchdowns that were caught, where like Redlea's toes were 931 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 4: barely out of bounds, but kind of stunning. ETN does 932 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 4: not look great running the ball for them right now, 933 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 4: but this should be a dynamic team. Christian Kirk Ingram Ridley, 934 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 4: just as the top threes, A Jones didn't have a 935 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 4: catch after leading the team having a great game in 936 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 4: Week one, shocking shockingly low offensive output twenty six points 937 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 4: between these two teams, was a real stunner to me. 938 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 4: But the highlight was definitely iron Eagles call for the 939 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 4: Kelsey touchdowns space. 940 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was pretty That was quite good. Kansaity, They're 941 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 5: not They're not all. They're not there. Kansas City. Three 942 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 5: turnovers in the game, twelve penalties. 943 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 4: That's how they were early last year though if you remember, 944 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 4: it was turnof over riddled and that was what was 945 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 4: keeping them from being successful. A lot of self inflicted wounds. Mahomes. 946 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 3: It feels like it's a little bit more of a 947 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 3: slow starter. 948 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 5: He might be. 949 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 4: He had been in its historically right in September, like 950 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 4: never thrown a picker. 951 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he lights out and the openers and 952 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: all this stuff. So they're they're definitely logging out of 953 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 2: the gates. 954 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 5: All right, final one here, we're just picking out a 955 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 5: few of the bigger ones. The Tennessee Titans the team 956 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 5: we will face this Sunday. Get off the schneid. They 957 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 5: are now one and one. They take down the Los 958 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 5: Angeles Chargers twenty seven to twenty four. Bishop. 959 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 2: The waste of talent it is that has taken place 960 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles with the Chargers now going on three seasons. 961 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 2: Is it's fireable a thousand times over. It's so derelict 962 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 2: of duty, it's nuts. 963 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 3: Nuts. 964 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: They got nothing to show for all of this talent, 965 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 2: Bosa and Mac and good Lord Herbert and Allen and 966 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: Williams and Eckler and nothing, nothing, not a playoff win, nothing, 967 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 2: one playoff appearance blew you blew it boy, that's it. 968 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 4: And a playoff appearance in which they lost the game. 969 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 4: So I said, bullet, Yeah, eight hundred interceptions in the first. 970 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 5: Half, Michael's favorite game of his career. 971 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean it was just brand Sailor's a Northeast Ohio guy. 972 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 2: You don't like to do Northeast Ohio. Northeast Ohio crime, 973 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 2: my man. 974 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 4: No, No, it's it's it's it's it's not the right solution. 975 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt about that. 976 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 4: The other thing stood out to me, and this one was, 977 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 4: you know, Tannehill was so bad Week one, one hundred 978 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 4: ninety eight yards under fifty percent completions, three picks, and 979 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 4: in this one twenty of twenty four, two forty six. 980 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 4: But it was down the field in week one on 981 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 4: passes of more than ten yards in the areas four 982 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 4: twelve for fifty seven yards, three picks, last week five 983 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 4: of six for one hundred and sixty one yards. The 984 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 4: Browns cannot give up the big play in this one. 985 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: It's and you go back and you think about twenty 986 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 4: nineteen hate finding things like that. US out at Derrick 987 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 4: Henry catch and run seventy five yard toucher, longest receiving 988 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 4: touchdown of his career. He only has three receiving touchdowns 989 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 4: in his whole career, by the way, one against US 990 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 4: and that was the longest reception. But Titans are not great. 991 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 4: Great If we're be good, and that's our problem right now, 992 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 4: get out of our own way, we will beat that. 993 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 4: We are better than they are. 994 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, gotta gotta do it, gotta play clean. We meet 995 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 2: in the Titans, or do you want to guess to spread? 996 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 5: Next we meet the We can do meet the Titans tomorrow. 997 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 5: If you want, let's. 998 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: Meet the Titans tomorrow. We'll guess the spread. Coming up next, 999 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 2: because we've kind of met the Titans a little bit already, 1000 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, we talked about we talked, we 1001 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: talked about some of their debts. We'll meet them officially tomorrow. 1002 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: We will put doctor Z to the test. 1003 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 5: Coming up next. You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought. 1004 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: To you by Bally that sports bettering part of your 1005 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's now live in Ohio on eight fifty YESPN Cleveland. 1006 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bet coming 1007 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland for. 1008 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: Team of injury lawyers dedicated every client every day called 1009 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: wonderd elk Ohio, Elk and Elks, proud partner of your 1010 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's. 1011 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 5: Time to dial up doctor. 1012 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 2: Z and see if we can yess the spread this 1013 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 2: week two and oh on the season for you, my friend. 1014 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 2: We start on Thursday night football Giants at Niners. 1015 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 5: Niners wearing the gorgeous throwbacks. 1016 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 3: It's gotta be Niners minus seven incorrect. 1017 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 2: We're off to a good start, baby, Niners minus ten, 1018 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 2: ten ten. 1019 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 3: That's a big number. That is a big number. 1020 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 2: Titans at Brown Sunday. 1021 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: Brown's minus three standard. 1022 00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 5: Nailed it. Falcons at Lions, Falcons at Leo's. 1023 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 3: M Ford Field, Detroit minus two and a half incorrect. 1024 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 5: Detroit minus three and a half. It's a little bit robust. Yeah, 1025 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 5: we have half points now. 1026 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 2: Saints at Packers, Saints at Packers. There's a lot of 1027 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 2: ways you can go with that. 1028 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 5: One. 1029 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: Packers minus one and a half, got. 1030 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 2: It, Packers minus two, Packers minus two. Broncos Broncos, Dolphins 1031 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 2: at Dolphins, Broncos at. 1032 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: Dolphins, Miami minus six and a half on it, exactly, 1033 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 3: great job out of you. 1034 00:46:47,040 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 5: Chargers at Vikings, Chargers at Vikings. 1035 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 4: I think the Vikings should be favored, but they're also 1036 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 4: not good, and Vegas knows that, so maybe the Charters 1037 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 4: are favored. 1038 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 5: I don't know that the Vikings aren't. I think the 1039 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 5: Vikings are all right. 1040 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 3: They played pretty well if they are, but they can 1041 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 3: score it. They can score. 1042 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: Cousins seven o eight six touchdowns, one pick so far two. 1043 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 5: Games, pretty good, good pick. 1044 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: Them. 1045 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 5: Got it. 1046 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 2: Even what I'm gonna tell you right now, I've never 1047 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: seen the two that you just nailed. Almost makes me 1048 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: question your integrity. Miami six and a half and a 1049 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 2: pick them. 1050 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to get seven on the six and 1051 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 4: a half, but because last time I went off. 1052 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: Of the man, those are brutal. That's incredible out of you. 1053 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 2: The house is not pleased. Patriots Jets, I got a 1054 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 2: long way constantly four Patriots Jets at. 1055 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 3: New York. 1056 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 5: In New Jersey. 1057 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 3: In New Jersey, Yeah, minus three, got it. 1058 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 5: Minus two and a half. 1059 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 2: Bills at Commy's. 1060 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 5: Bills at Commy's. 1061 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be a big number. I 1062 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 3: think Bill's minus three. 1063 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 5: Bill's minus six and a half. That's raised. 1064 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 3: There's my pegrity right there for you and a half. 1065 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 3: Texans at Jaguars Jags minus seven. 1066 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 2: Uh no, Jaggs minus nine and a half. Big, big, 1067 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: big number there this week. Yeah, Colts at Baltimore Gentlemen's. 1068 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 2: It's Baltimore Gentlemen. 1069 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 3: Baltimore minus six and a half. 1070 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 5: Nope, Baltimore minus seven and a half. 1071 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: Carolina at Lumen's five five against Seattle. 1072 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 3: Carolina at Seattle Seattle minus. 1073 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna be a full seven for them. 1074 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 3: Five and a half? 1075 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 5: Got it six. Before you go any further, these are 1076 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 5: the three late games. By the way, lines, the three 1077 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 5: late games. There's only three Carolina, Seattle, Bears, Chiefs, Cowboys, Cardinals. 1078 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 4: Oh god, those are your late games games? 1079 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 3: Did you hear everything? 1080 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 2: Did you hear the Justin Fields presser today? 1081 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 3: No? 1082 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 5: No, I saw some things. Wow. 1083 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 3: What did he say? 1084 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 7: Uh? 1085 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: They just got to get back to being him. He's 1086 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 2: thinking too they're making he's thinking too much. And somebody says, well, 1087 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 2: why are you thinking too much? And he goes, could 1088 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: be coaching? Could be what this? I mean like he 1089 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 2: went all in? 1090 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 4: Why did they just go ahead and copy everything the 1091 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 4: Eagles did? 1092 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 5: I have no idea. 1093 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: Just don't just don't just keep it simple, just do 1094 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 2: do the Eagles operation Bears at Chiefs. 1095 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 3: At six and Bears six and five. 1096 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 4: I know it's double digits. I feel like it's gotta be. 1097 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 4: So it's at ten or is at fourteen? I'll go 1098 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the bait Chiefs minus. 1099 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 2: Fourteen incorrect, Chiefs minus twelve and a half. 1100 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 3: I would know. I mean, that's an impossible. 1101 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 5: That's an impossible. 1102 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: Get twelve and a half is the number on that one. 1103 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: Twelve Dallas wrong is what it is as. 1104 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 5: Arizona home game for the Cowboys in Arizona, Boys. 1105 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 3: At Cards, Dallas minus nine and a half, minus twelve. 1106 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 4: What twelves are bad? I mean, nobody's ever gonna get 1107 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 4: a twelve. 1108 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: You would have got those two twelves. I would just 1109 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 2: walk the hell out of Yeah, come out twelve. You're 1110 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 2: clairvoyant z. Steelers at Raiders, Steelers at Raiders. 1111 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 3: Raiders, yep, minus two and a half. 1112 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 5: Got it exactly? 1113 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 3: Got it exactly? Ram it or at seven to seven? 1114 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 5: I need you need to give these two. 1115 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 2: But you feel like, yeah, this week, this push, I 1116 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 2: think you'd be thrilled killing just ram it at Bengals, 1117 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 2: just ram it at Bengals. 1118 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 3: Do we know this? I don't know. Can I ask? 1119 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 3: Can I ask a question? 1120 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 5: Okay? 1121 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 2: Do you I think the line is reflective of what 1122 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals have shown you in two weeks? 1123 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 5: Is that too much of a lad? 1124 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 3: No? 1125 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 5: No, I think you tell me. 1126 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 3: I know what you're saying. So you're what you're saying? 1127 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 4: Is there what I think you're saying is there's some 1128 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 4: risk built into the line for Burrow. So I'm gonna 1129 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 4: say Bengals minus two and a half? 1130 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 5: Got it exactly? See, I told you, See, I know you, 1131 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 5: I know you know what I meant by that. 1132 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 3: All Right, this is it. 1133 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,879 Speaker 4: This is Eagles at least I guaranteed to tie at 1134 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 4: a resurgent Baker Mayfield and Tampa Bay Eagles at bucks. 1135 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna give him a full tuddy 1136 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 4: Eagle yep, minus. 1137 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 5: Eagles six at Tampa Bay. 1138 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 8: In correct? 1139 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 5: What is it? Five? 1140 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 3: I'll just say five and a half and I'm like 1141 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 3: eight up, eight down. 1142 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 5: Good. 1143 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. 1144 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 4: Have a couple that was a tough week, remember remember 1145 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 4: like wells I will. 1146 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 5: Be interested to see what changes on this by Friday 1147 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 5: when we do the scores. Oh my god, I think 1148 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 5: a lot will I think a lot will that? 1149 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 4: Like I was off by three plus points on a 1150 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 4: lot of them, but like in my mind, I was 1151 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 4: going back a great ones. You gotta you got a 1152 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 4: couple of you got to you got to pick a 1153 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 4: half in a half point. I can only get to 1154 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 4: pick them if I hit it exactly. 1155 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, that was that was that was it. 1156 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 4: It's a risky pick because if it wasn't a pick them, 1157 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 4: I couldn't get it. 1158 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 3: That's right, but it felt like I want to say 1159 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 3: one sorry. 1160 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns and Avocados from Peru and Meyer want 1161 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: you to enter the Ultimate Football sweep Stakes for your 1162 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: chance to win to twenty twenty three four to Lightning 1163 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 2: Electric pickup truck of EP tour, the CCMC or one 1164 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 2: thousand dollars Meyer Gift Card. 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By 1186 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 5: the way, interesting stat from him, teams that start oh 1187 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 5: and two make the playoffs eleven percent of the time. 1188 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 5: That means of the nine teams that are now oh 1189 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 5: and two after two weeks, the stats say one will 1190 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,359 Speaker 5: make the playoffs. Yep. 1191 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it interesting because there's some good oh and 1192 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 4: two football teams. 1193 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 2: Who's the most likely oh and two to make it? 1194 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 5: Is it still Burrow in Cincinnati? I you have to 1195 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 5: say the Chargers. No, I don't. I don't know. I 1196 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 5: think they have even bigger problems. 1197 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 4: I like the Chargers, I like the Vikings still. I 1198 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 4: just think the NFC is so open, all right. 1199 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 2: So the O and two's absolutely no chance for New England. 1200 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 2: So the Bengal, the Bengals are the most accomplished team 1201 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 2: that's owing to by far Chargers and Broncos Zho and 1202 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 2: two Vikings. I like that one just because of the 1203 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 2: NFC and then now that's it. 1204 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm not bailing. He 1205 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 5: can't bail on Cincinnati. I don't want to bail. It 1206 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 5: has everything failing on them. But like it has everything 1207 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 5: to do with that half. Yeah, I mean. 1208 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 2: It'd be it would be a stupendous failure. In the 1209 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 2: year of giving him the contract, he never got healthy 1210 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 2: and they missed the postseason. 1211 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, uh. First and foremost, he has our Cleveland 1212 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 5: Browns at number seventeen, falling ten spots from last week 1213 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 5: in his power pool. Geez, pretty hard. 1214 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 3: I mean he didn't do that though. Yeah, that was 1215 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 3: bad ball man. 1216 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 5: He has the Seahawks and Squealers ahead of us, the Lions, 1217 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 5: the Giants behind us. Ziga high or lower. 1218 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: Just right. 1219 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 4: If we play as we are capable of playing it, 1220 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 4: we're much better than this. But six turnovers and two 1221 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 4: games no Nick Chubb and you just you blew it 1222 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 4: boy bigly against the Steelers. 1223 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 3: So it's probably just right. But it's a discipline, it's 1224 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 3: it's a tough pill. It's a very disappointing place to 1225 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 3: be ranked. For being honest, you. 1226 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 2: Can make an argument we should go down one behind 1227 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 2: Detroit Detroit one at Kansas City week one. If you 1228 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 2: want to do that, you could. It doesn't matter. Like 1229 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 2: this is what this is what you get. That's what 1230 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 2: you get. 1231 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 5: Six turnovers, two games. 1232 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 2: You lose a game where you're leading in the fourth 1233 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 2: quarter and you give up negative seven yards to the opposition, 1234 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 2: Like this is appropriate, You're off and the best the 1235 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,479 Speaker 2: most important point player. Yeah, the most important offensive player 1236 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 2: on your team in the last six years has now 1237 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 2: gone for the year. 1238 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,359 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, this is this is what you get. 1239 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 2: Now, we're better than the Titans or fourteen, But what 1240 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 2: are gonna do. 1241 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 4: They're the highest, they're the biggest riser. We're the biggest faller. 1242 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 4: So he as a blast jumpy. He loves the Cheries 1243 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 4: like you. 1244 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 5: He likes the Chargers. That's why he's all. 1245 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 3: They were. 1246 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 4: They were twenty third last week and we were seventh. 1247 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, next higher or lower number one in pe Prisco's 1248 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 5: power pool, the San Francisco forty nine ers, Bishop of 1249 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 5: lower just right. 1250 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: I think he's got the right three and I think 1251 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 2: the first I think you could, You could do what 1252 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: you want with Dallas and San Francisco. San Francisco's wins 1253 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 2: are more impressive. So I'm cool with them being number one. 1254 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 2: But them and the Cowboys are the day to me, 1255 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 2: are the two best. The Eagles, who he's got third 1256 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 2: on this they could get. I'm not worried about them. 1257 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: They'll be fine, but they're not quite going to and O. 1258 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 3: And they haven't looked good. 1259 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 5: No, No, pretty bad honestly fourth quarters. 1260 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're still too enough. 1261 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they beat Vikes and they beat pats. 1262 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: Ner Niners, Cowboys great NFC championship game, gorgeous, man beautiful. 1263 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I feel like Prime would be out there. 1264 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 4: Coach Prime would be taking that game in. 1265 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 3: Cowboys Boys probably, I don't know. 1266 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 5: Boys. 1267 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 3: He looks so good in that one in ninety four. 1268 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 2: No, that's and it was Apex. Prime was ninety four 1269 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 2: with the forty nine Ers, was the best he ever was. 1270 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 4: I'd like to see maybe a half a half a 1271 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 4: half Jersey. Yeah, I think it's I think he would 1272 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 4: want to. He wouldn't want to alienate either fan base. 1273 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 2: It's a pretty remarkable thing because Jerry signed him after 1274 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 2: ninety four and then the Cowboys won it ninety five, 1275 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 2: So he won the Super Bowl and back to back years. 1276 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 3: So did Haley? Right? 1277 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 5: He did Haley go that year too? Or was he there? 1278 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 2: Haley was won like a billion He's on like seven. 1279 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 2: But I thought he won with the the earlier. 1280 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 4: Early Cowboys, and that could be that. You could be 1281 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 4: totally right, Ken Norton went Cowboys first to. 1282 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 3: Nine nine ers, Yeah, correct, Yeah, all those guys are just. 1283 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 5: Boun There should be a thirty for thirty about that. 1284 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 3: That rival those. 1285 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 5: Guys that year. The number of players that bounced back 1286 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 5: and forth. 1287 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 3: There were a few of them, for sure. So Haley went. 1288 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 4: Haley was with the Niners early like Joe Niners, right, yeah, yeah, eighty. 1289 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 3: Eight, eighty nine, ninety one. 1290 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 4: Then he went to the Cowboys and then he returned 1291 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,959 Speaker 4: to the Niners in nineteen ninety eight. 1292 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so he won the three he won two Super Bowl, 1293 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 2: three Super Bowls at Joe and then three with Akman. 1294 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 3: Five times Super Bowl champion. 1295 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 2: It says, okay, two with Joe, three with the job 1296 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. 1297 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: Next higher or lower. 1298 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 5: By the way, for all the praise we heap on 1299 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 5: the AFC top three or all NFC. Yeah yeah, uh 1300 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 5: number four, the Kansas City cheap number five, the Baltimore 1301 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 5: Ravens Zigura higher lower or just right? For said, come on, 1302 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 5: Pete cool. 1303 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 4: Okay, hold on real quick, Hayley, listen to the running 1304 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 4: Head eighty eight wins the Super Bowl, the Niners eighty 1305 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 4: nine one Super Bowl, the Niner nineties first team All 1306 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 4: Pro with the Niners. Ninety two, he wins the Super 1307 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,919 Speaker 4: Bowl with Dallas. Ninety three wins Super Bowl Dallas, ninety 1308 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 4: four's first team All Pro with Dallas doesn't win the 1309 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 4: super Bowl. 1310 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 3: Ninety five win Zuper Bowl Dallas. 1311 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 2: Quite good either, a good run? 1312 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, pretty good? Right, you said, though. 1313 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 2: This is silly Ravens five, they are not better than Miami. 1314 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that. 1315 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 4: I think that is absurd. So yes, they need to 1316 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 4: be lower, just on the Miami one alone. So yes, 1317 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 4: they are worse. 1318 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not better than Miami. 1319 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 2: I would have Miami's the number one AFC team if 1320 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 2: we're just going on what they do in this year. 1321 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's two. There's two ways you. 1322 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Can look at any ranking. One is a poll mentality. 1323 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 2: So what that means is if I'm betting my life 1324 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 2: on an AFC team. I'm going to bet on Kansas 1325 01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 2: City because I believe in what they will be, so 1326 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 2: IM gonna put them high. I'm gonna keep them high. 1327 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give them better for the doubt over and 1328 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 2: over another. The other is the week to week mentality 1329 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 2: in terms of what you've actually seen on the field 1330 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 2: and what I've seen on the field. 1331 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 5: Miami, I could argue, should be three. Yep. 1332 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they went they went to LA and one they 1333 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 2: battered the Pats at their place. They played two road 1334 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 2: games against quality teams. 1335 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 5: They're two to zero. 1336 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:20,919 Speaker 6: Yep. 1337 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 5: To me, they should be third. 1338 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 3: I like them third. I like that. Niners, Cowboys, Dolphins. 1339 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 4: Those have been the three most impressive teams in the 1340 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 4: NFL to me, yeah, by a pretty wide margin. 1341 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Next higher or lower? 1342 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 5: All right? Number six is the Dolphins. Number seven, Boffalow 1343 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 5: after their big week to win. Number eight the Commies 1344 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 5: undefeated up six spots from fourteen to number eight. Bishop 1345 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 5: higher lower or just right right behind him. By the way, 1346 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 5: the Saints and. 1347 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 4: The Jags Saints defense Joe Woods get a lot of praise. 1348 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 3: He is, Yeah, I would take right now. 1349 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 5: I just can't buy that. The Washington Comedies are the 1350 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 5: eighth best team in the NFL. 1351 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 3: I think the Lions are better. 1352 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 2: They've won the Cardinals week one, yep, and then they 1353 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 2: beat Denver. 1354 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 3: Week two and barely beat the Cardinals. 1355 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah they did, I know, but I don't know what 1356 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 2: that even means. I think Denver might suck. 1357 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 4: They beat the teams that he has on this rank 1358 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 4: twenty seventh and thirty second, and he's got them at eight. 1359 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 4: So that does something doesn't jive there. The Jags are 1360 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 4: better than they are. I will take the Jags, the Seahawks, 1361 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 4: and the Lions ahead of the Commanders, and I would 1362 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 4: take us. We beat them last time and played them. 1363 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 3: I'd take us as well, all right, Next higher or lower? 1364 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 5: Number nine, the Saints, as I mentioned, number ten, the Jags, 1365 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 5: number eleven, Baker Mayfield, and the undefeated Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1366 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 5: higher lower or just right Bishop pass. 1367 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 3: You can't pass, I just did. They can't do it. 1368 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 3: They had three options, just right. 1369 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 5: Come on that. 1370 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 4: So you wouldn't take them over the Seahawks of the 1371 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:03,959 Speaker 4: Lions right now? 1372 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 2: No, But that's the that's the pole mentality in you 1373 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 2: based on what they've done in the field. They've got 1374 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 2: a good win at Minnesota, right, and then they took 1375 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 2: care of business and hammered a really bad Chicago team. 1376 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it's dreadful and they were, by the way, 1377 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 4: so in the fourth quarter. 1378 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 5: I think I think both. 1379 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 2: I think the Falcons might even be better than them. 1380 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 5: I have them third in the in the NFC South. 1381 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 5: For what it's worth, I agree with you. 1382 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 2: I think Seattle is better to Obviously, I think we're 1383 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 2: better Detroit, but they are too. And oh and so 1384 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 2: here's here's another thing. Like they still have a lot 1385 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 2: of that talent that won a Super Bowl not that 1386 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 2: long ago. Mike Evans is still there, LaMonte David still there. 1387 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Like they've got that structure to them. Yeah, so they've 1388 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 2: got that structure to them. And Baker's playing fine. He's 1389 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 2: playing fine. So it's they can be a team that 1390 01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 2: hangs around. 1391 01:03:59,480 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 5: They really can. 1392 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they could be a playoff team or higher or lower. 1393 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna jump down here. If I look 1394 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 5: through things, the Falcons are twelve, Packers, thirteen Titans, fourteen. 1395 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 5: We talked about the Seahawks and Steelers, Browns, Lions, Giants 1396 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 5: at nineteen, Jets at twenty. Where would you put the 1397 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals right now, because they're twenty one in Pee 1398 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 5: Prisco's power poll. Higher, lower or just right, Zigura, I. 1399 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 4: Put them ahead of the Jets. I don't even care. 1400 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 4: So they're better than that. I know that the Jets 1401 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 4: have a nice defense, but the Bengals are. 1402 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 3: Still a better better than Chargers are better than the Jets. 1403 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 3: They're both. 1404 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 5: If you're playing the New York Jets and you can 1405 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 5: score ten points, yes you are in cruise control. 1406 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 3: Yes. 1407 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 2: I would also say though that as it currently, I mean, honestly, 1408 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 2: like the Chargers have been more impressive than the Bengals, 1409 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 2: the Banks have been really and same with the Rams. 1410 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 3: Honestly, how can the Steelers be ahead of any of 1411 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 3: these teams? 1412 01:04:58,840 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 5: Well, they beat us. 1413 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 4: They they beat us, so they can put them ahead 1414 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 4: of us. That's on us, that's our bat. They should 1415 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 4: if you actually watch the games, right, But. 1416 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 2: If you do transitive property and then you say the 1417 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 2: Browns swip the Bengals, the Steelers beat the Browns, you're 1418 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 2: just looking at scores, you know, which is always a headache. 1419 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 2: The Rams should be higher on this. They get the 1420 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 2: Rams twenty three. The Rams have been pretty decent. 1421 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 5: I don't know. Cincinnati. 1422 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 2: This is a big, big week for them. Man, It's 1423 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 2: a big week. So they get the extra day to 1424 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 2: get borrow healthy. 1425 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 5: They need it. 1426 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're They're better than those teams for sure, 1427 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 2: because you know what their talent is. But they do 1428 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 2: have some real issues that are starting to crop up. 1429 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 5: Yes, so next higher or lower real quick here, because 1430 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 5: we're going to try to cram a bunch of breaks 1431 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 5: in before coach at two thirty. Um, if I look 1432 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,520 Speaker 5: at the bottom three teams, the Bears are thirty, the 1433 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 5: Texans are thirty one, The Cardinals are thirty two. Yep, yep, 1434 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 5: we have that right. 1435 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 2: I mean the Panthers are twenty nine. I feel like 1436 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 2: the Panthers. Panthers defense is pretty good. They've got some 1437 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: players defensively, they're absolutely feckless offensively. The Bears are the 1438 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 2: most disappointing by one thousand miles that it is just gross. 1439 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 2: And then the Cardinals aren't trying. I'd honestly like of 1440 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 2: the own two teams. Of the two teams, the Cardinals 1441 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 2: are gonna end up picking first and third or whatever 1442 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 2: in this draft. So they're gonna feel pretty good about 1443 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 2: that because they have the Texans pick remember that, but 1444 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 2: C J. 1445 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 3: Strouds, I would say that they could get Stroud and Anderson. 1446 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 5: Who both have been good. 1447 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 2: Anderson has been really good and Stroud looks great. The 1448 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks, he's been the best. 1449 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 3: If I'm the Texas, so I feel. 1450 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 5: Okay if I'm them. 1451 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 2: But the Bears are they they got They're on the 1452 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 2: vergim of melt down. 1453 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,880 Speaker 3: There is what happened today over there with Fields in. 1454 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 5: His comments, it's not great mess. Minnesota is the best 1455 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 5: Owen two team. 1456 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 4: By the way, I will say, because we've talked about 1457 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 4: this so many times, you know there must be something. 1458 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 4: I think what we're seeing manifests itself. Obviously, with poor 1459 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 4: coaching from Dustin Fields, is probably why he's not a 1460 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 4: forty nine er. 1461 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 3: I don't think he. 1462 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 4: Ever would have been in the rhythm of the offense 1463 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 4: where it needed to go. 1464 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 3: And I think I was just like, that's not I can't. 1465 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 5: I can't do this. 1466 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. 1467 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 2: And honestly, it might be something our guys we have 1468 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 2: to adjust to here. 1469 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 3: I think we do. I think you're yes, yeah, you 1470 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 3: have to. 1471 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 5: You have to. 1472 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 2: You got to play to the strengths of the guys 1473 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 2: and if if cause like my system, this is what 1474 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 2: we're doing and Justin can't do it or was doesn't 1475 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 2: look like he can right based on what you're seeing 1476 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 2: right now, all right, Coach at the podium. Coming up 1477 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 2: next year's to Clevelan Ronzale on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 1478 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett. 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That job started, and they're going 1491 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 2: to have a walk through this afternoon, and then you 1492 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 2: start to prepare for Tennessee. 1493 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,719 Speaker 5: And in full. 1494 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 4: Oh look, day, that's you came right out on the app. 1495 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 4: I was going to look to see I was going 1496 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 4: to look at the see if in the if it 1497 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 4: gave the number. But I'd imagine he's coming back. He'll 1498 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 4: get twenty seven back, right. 1499 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 5: He twenty seven is open. 1500 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:52,759 Speaker 3: It's open. 1501 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it provided he wants it, he's could do it. 1502 01:08:55,360 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 3: Yes, there most an issue it. It most certainly is. Yeah, 1503 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 3: be curious. 1504 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 4: I think he'd be in twenty seven unless what if 1505 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 4: he were a twenty four is like an homage. 1506 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 5: Well, I had thought he'd do that too. 1507 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 3: I think you can. 1508 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 5: I think he probably could. 1509 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 2: That would be a question for Nick, you know, like 1510 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 2: if he would want that, obviously, do an issue that 1511 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 2: number until he does. If he wanted a single digit, 1512 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 2: nine is open. Now nine is Tilman, right, Tilm's nineteene, 1513 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,240 Speaker 2: So nine and ten are open from a singles standpoint, 1514 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 2: there's no teen. He was always fifteen is open. 1515 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 4: Let's say when he was obviously twenty one with us, 1516 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 4: he was twenty seven with the Chiefs as well, right, 1517 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 4: So that's been his only number. So I guess is 1518 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 4: that's what he would he would keep. I got to 1519 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 4: Adam into the Adam into the old boards. See what 1520 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 4: he was twenty seven both places. So he was three 1521 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:56,360 Speaker 4: at Toledo taken taken, Yeah, I guess. 1522 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 3: He'd be twenty seven again, Yeah, I would think. Yeah, 1523 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 3: so he was three in high school too. 1524 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 5: It looks like So that's that's where that goes. 1525 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 2: We're waiting coach where we'll he'll be asked about Kareem 1526 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 2: Hunt and the role and what all of that looks like. 1527 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,880 Speaker 2: And and obviously the the way this needs to look 1528 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 2: going forward is Deshaun Watson will now have all of 1529 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 2: the foot the fingerprints all over this wherever we go, 1530 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 2: whatever we are going to be as a football team, 1531 01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:25,600 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson's gonna have to take it. 1532 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 4: The answer, no, he is, That is the answer. It 1533 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 4: is Deshaun Watson, and he's got to do it. And 1534 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 4: he's got to be the guy that that is who 1535 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 4: he was yep, and and and hopefully better than that, right, 1536 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,680 Speaker 4: I mean, everyone wants to be better, but we need 1537 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 4: to we need to go back to that realm. He's 1538 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,439 Speaker 4: only had one rating over one hundred with the Browns. 1539 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,679 Speaker 4: He averaged one hundred and three plus actually one hundred 1540 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 4: four point five. 1541 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 3: With the Houston Texans, Like we need that guy. 1542 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, where it was just every week excellence and he 1543 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 4: had some low games. You know, it's not like all 1544 01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 4: of his Browns games are his lowest rate games, but 1545 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 4: there the proportion of them, yes, that are is staggeringly high. 1546 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and as good as our defense is and as 1547 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 2: good as some of our weapons are in addition to him, Like, 1548 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 2: our offensive line's got to play better. 1549 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 5: We've been not been good up front at all. 1550 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,120 Speaker 4: Jed Wills has been responsible for thirty percent of the pressures. 1551 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 3: That has got to be better. 1552 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 5: That does Here's coach Defance get the podium. 1553 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:24,599 Speaker 8: Okay, start oup preparation onto Tennessee. Excited about the opportunity 1554 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,680 Speaker 8: to be in front of our fans again. They're unbelievable 1555 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 8: Week one. I expect the same from our group. We're 1556 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 8: excited about the challenge of playing another AFC opponent, a 1557 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 8: one on one football team. Have a ton of respect 1558 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 8: for coach Rabel and all of his coaches. They do 1559 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 8: a great job down there, really really well coached offense, defense, 1560 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,839 Speaker 8: and special teams. Like every week, the challenge is different, 1561 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 8: but the challenge is definitely you know, there are difficult matchups. 1562 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,879 Speaker 8: When you talk about facing the Titans, whether it's their defense, 1563 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 8: their stout front, how they're able to defend in the 1564 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 8: back end, their offense obviously with an unbelievable rush attack. 1565 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,440 Speaker 8: We know what they're capable of. Really well coached, sound, physical, 1566 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 8: special teams group. So it's a unique challenge every single week. 1567 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 8: So what we're doing here today is pouring ourselves into 1568 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 8: the preparation so that we're ready for that challenge. 1569 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 6: And with that, I'll take any questions. 1570 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 9: Hey, Kevin, did you watch Kareem's workout yesterday? And if so, 1571 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 9: how did he look to you? 1572 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? I did, and he looked in good shape. 1573 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,759 Speaker 8: As you guys know, there's football shape and there's working 1574 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 8: out to stay ready shape. So I'm sure he's going 1575 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 8: to come along this week and we'll see where he is. 1576 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 8: But he looks to be in good shape. 1577 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,679 Speaker 9: And you know the way it ended with him last 1578 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 9: year he was able to go to free agency. Did 1579 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 9: you think it was always a possibility that he'd be 1580 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 9: able to return or did you kind of move past that? 1581 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 3: You know? 1582 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,759 Speaker 8: I think in this business you always you never know, really, 1583 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,920 Speaker 8: so and that's what you know when guys leave here 1584 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 8: you're always rooting for them, you're wishing them well and 1585 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 8: again in this in this case, an opportunity to present 1586 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,919 Speaker 8: itself here. You know, Kareem has familiarity in our offense 1587 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 8: and what we're about, so it felt like it was 1588 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 8: a really good fit. 1589 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 10: I mean you you just touched on the familiarity that 1590 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 10: Kareem has. How much does that help given these circumstances. 1591 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a big deal, Tom. I mean, 1592 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 8: as you know, as when you add players that are 1593 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 8: free agents, oftentimes you have to ramp them up and 1594 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 8: get them ready to play, and we have done that. 1595 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 8: You can do that in this case. There's obviously some 1596 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,760 Speaker 8: newness that Kareem is learning, but he can pick up 1597 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,479 Speaker 8: things very quickly, so that definitely factored into it. 1598 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 10: And if I could pivot to Deshan real quick. You 1599 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 10: said after the game that obviously there were some throws 1600 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 10: that he'd like to have back. When you took a 1601 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 10: look at the film, what do you think of his 1602 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:40,799 Speaker 10: performance overall? 1603 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, very similar to all of us. 1604 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 8: You know, plays, calls that you want, back blocks that 1605 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 8: you want, back tackles, all those. Anytime you come up short, 1606 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 8: there's things that you want to do differently. I think 1607 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 8: that's the beauty of our sport. That's the beauty of 1608 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 8: playing in this league where you get another opportunity. But 1609 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 8: I know the show on and all of our players 1610 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,280 Speaker 8: want to continue to make plays. 1611 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 7: Kevin, can you just talk about how I'm guessing that 1612 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 7: Jerome Ford will continue to be your lead back and 1613 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 7: if so, how do you think Kareem will compliment him 1614 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 7: and his running style? 1615 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:15,599 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1616 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 8: I think Mary Kay, you know, Jerome is the lead back, 1617 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 8: but we have to work through all of those type 1618 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 8: of things and you know what Kareem's ready to do 1619 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,040 Speaker 8: this week. You know if he's ready to go this week, 1620 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 8: and what type of load he can carry and Pierre strong, 1621 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 8: So I think we need to work through all of that. 1622 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,639 Speaker 6: But I yes, Jerome is the starter. 1623 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,879 Speaker 7: And what does Kareem bring that's maybe sort of different 1624 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 7: than Jerome just in terms of his running style and whatnot. 1625 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, as you guys know haven't been around Kareem for 1626 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 8: a bunch of years. He's a very very physical runner, 1627 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 8: slashing style, excellent catching the football, So just just brings 1628 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 8: a really well balanced skill set to our group. 1629 01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 11: And you talked about that familiarity and having to game 1630 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 11: plan and maybe let it play out as you see 1631 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 11: what Kareem can do. But how much can you go 1632 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 11: back to the things that you know about Kareem when 1633 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 11: you're planning for what he's able to do this week 1634 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 11: and even just next week these recent games. 1635 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a good point, Cam. I mean, 1636 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 8: it's a familiarity that Kareem has with our offense. It's 1637 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 8: also our familiarity with Kareem and his stability and you 1638 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 8: know the run types the past types that he excels at. 1639 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 8: So I think both things in this instance help us. 1640 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 12: So just to be clear, Kevin, you do you think 1641 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 12: there's a chance that you could use Kareem on Sunday. 1642 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,559 Speaker 6: I think there's a chance, But we got to see 1643 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:40,600 Speaker 6: how this week plays. 1644 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 12: Out, Okay, And when you look at other struggles of 1645 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,680 Speaker 12: the offense, and then I guess you always focus on 1646 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,840 Speaker 12: the Shan But what can be don to make it 1647 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 12: better than it was his first two games? 1648 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1649 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,960 Speaker 8: I think it takes everybody, Jeff. I really do think 1650 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 8: there's we can make adjustments really in all areas to 1651 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 8: be a little bit cleaner on our technique, be a 1652 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:11,639 Speaker 8: little bit cleaner in our execution, it's really pretty simple. 1653 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:16,200 Speaker 8: I think for us, we look real hard at at scheme, technique, alignments, 1654 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,640 Speaker 8: I mean, the nuts and bolts of it, to make 1655 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 8: sure that we're doing everything to have a precise attack. 1656 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,839 Speaker 13: Yeah, Kevin, just a couple of housekeeping things here with Amari, 1657 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,800 Speaker 13: Greg and Zadarius. Is this more just giving them time 1658 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,599 Speaker 13: to get some treatment or are you concerned about their 1659 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:35,759 Speaker 13: availability Sunday. 1660 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not really thinking past today. This is really 1661 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 8: more day to day, giving them some time. 1662 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 13: Off, and then just looking at the Titans with Ryan 1663 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 13: Tannehill and that offense that Mike Rabel's running down there 1664 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 13: in Tennessee. Just your thoughts on what you see when 1665 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 13: you study the film and the challenge they present to you. 1666 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, very very physical group. You know, starts with the 1667 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 8: run game, getting a ton of touches for Derrick Henry, 1668 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,639 Speaker 8: who's as good as anybody as there is. It does 1669 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 8: one man can't tackle Derek Henry. You got to swarm 1670 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 8: to the football, and then they take their shots that 1671 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 8: they have a great boot action game, a great keeper game, 1672 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 8: run actions play action shots down the field screen game, 1673 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,600 Speaker 8: so everything really is built off their run game. But 1674 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 8: it's an impressive attack. 1675 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,240 Speaker 14: Hey Kevin, I wanted to ask about Dewand I mean, 1676 01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 14: I know you talked a little bit about him after 1677 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 14: the game, but after reviewing the film, you know, how 1678 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,280 Speaker 14: did you guys think he did overall in the tough 1679 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 14: assignment that he had. 1680 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,559 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think tough assignment. I thought he performed well. 1681 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,640 Speaker 8: He's got to continue, like all rookies do, you know, 1682 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,799 Speaker 8: just got to continue to get better throughout this season. 1683 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 8: And I think he's working really hard with the coaches. 1684 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 8: Like we talked about earlier, every week is different, so 1685 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,680 Speaker 8: you pour out that game plan from this week from 1686 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 8: last week, excuse me, and you pour in this week. 1687 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 8: So that's what he's working hard on. But a young 1688 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 8: player that I think it's just going to continue to 1689 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:01,639 Speaker 8: get better. 1690 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,600 Speaker 15: Hey Kevin, I know Jim spent the last couple of 1691 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 15: years in Tennessee kind of advising in some sort of 1692 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 15: advisor role. Just curious, how much do you see similarities 1693 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:18,639 Speaker 15: between what they're running defensively to what you guys do 1694 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 15: what Jim does up here. 1695 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd say that they're pretty different schematically just where 1696 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,840 Speaker 8: they're built from and cut some of the core things 1697 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 8: that they do. Obviously, Jim's influence throughout their time together. 1698 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 8: You know, Jim could probably better answer that, but I'd 1699 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,720 Speaker 8: say there's probably more differences than there are similarities. 1700 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,040 Speaker 6: Kevin a little unsure about something. 1701 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,519 Speaker 10: When Ford went down for four weeks in training camp, 1702 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 10: you acquire Jordan Wilkins, then you traded for Pierre Strong, 1703 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 10: So why now with Kareem hunt and why not then? 1704 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,719 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just think you're always looking at the waste 1705 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,880 Speaker 8: and of your team, Tony, and based on your team 1706 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 8: at the moment. Obviously, Nick Chubb being unavailable factored into 1707 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:11,320 Speaker 8: this decision, and Kareem knows that, and Kareem feels, you know, 1708 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 8: as sick about Knick's injury as anybody, but you know, 1709 01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,559 Speaker 8: this is the situation that we're in the circumstances, So 1710 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 8: I think Kareem is excited about the opportunity. 1711 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 16: Kevin, going back to Kareem for a second, with you know, 1712 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,000 Speaker 16: having Jerome and Pierre as kind of younger guys, what 1713 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 16: is his leadership style? What do you think he can 1714 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,360 Speaker 16: bring in that aspect to help them kind of grow 1715 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 16: as players. 1716 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think with our roster, Kelsey, if you look 1717 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 8: at it, you have a bunch of different guys in 1718 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 8: those roles, not just Kareem. Really in every single room, 1719 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 8: there are veterans that have been there, done that, if 1720 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 8: you will, and can really show the ropes to the 1721 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 8: young guys, sometimes verbally, sometimes just by doing your job. 1722 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 8: So I think Kareem, uh, you know, first day in 1723 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 8: the building, you know, kind of a different first day 1724 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,559 Speaker 8: because he's been here before, but he's he's really working 1725 01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 8: hard to make sure he can catch up. 1726 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 15: Uh. 1727 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 8: And then I think the young guys will watch how 1728 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,400 Speaker 8: Kareem works at practice, in particular in the games he 1729 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:07,840 Speaker 8: practices already plays hard. 1730 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, Kevin Jed Wills, you know, obviously on the on 1731 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 7: the game winning fumble recovery, he struggled on that particular play, 1732 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,760 Speaker 7: and you know he's kind of taking a beating all 1733 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 7: over the place. My question is with you guys having 1734 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 7: to commit so many resources chipping and whatnot to dewand 1735 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,000 Speaker 7: did it leave Jed out on an island a little 1736 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,080 Speaker 7: bit over there? And you know what might you say 1737 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 7: about his performance that night? 1738 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's hard to look back when I'm 1739 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,639 Speaker 6: looking forward, Mary kay, But. 1740 01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,040 Speaker 8: It's a tough game that those type of those moments 1741 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,640 Speaker 8: are going to happen at times. We expect Jed to 1742 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 8: bounce back. That's a good football player that he was 1743 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 8: going against. But we're going to focus on on the 1744 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 8: Titans and really moving forward. 1745 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,720 Speaker 9: Hey, Kevin obviously drawing me that real long run, But 1746 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,719 Speaker 9: what did you like about how he handled being pressed 1747 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 9: into that bigger role Monday night? 1748 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1749 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,200 Speaker 8: I think it's all a lot of our young guys. Scott, 1750 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 8: hear this from me all the time, and it's about 1751 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 8: staying ready and because you just never know when your 1752 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 8: opportunity is going to come. And I think Jerome has 1753 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 8: been a great example of that as somebody that works 1754 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 8: really hard on the field, in the weight room, in 1755 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,920 Speaker 8: the meeting room, see somebody that really is diligent about 1756 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,320 Speaker 8: the preparation again because you just don't know when your 1757 01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,760 Speaker 8: time is going to come. So I'd applaud him for 1758 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,639 Speaker 8: his preparation and being ready for that moment. 1759 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,080 Speaker 9: And then Grant had another strong game. Are you seeing 1760 01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,559 Speaker 9: anything different from him this year from last year? It 1761 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,600 Speaker 9: just seems like he's making more plays. 1762 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, simply that. 1763 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,519 Speaker 8: I mean, I think with young players, more reps, more plays, 1764 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 8: gives you an opportunity to show what you can do. 1765 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 8: And I think he's done a nice job. 1766 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:48,200 Speaker 6: Thanks. 1767 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,680 Speaker 2: I thought the question Tony asked to Kevin talked to 1768 01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 2: something that you and I talked about off the very 1769 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 2: start of the show, and that was the uniqueness of 1770 01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 2: the Nick Chubb injury. Yes, is what allows for Kareem 1771 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,960 Speaker 2: Hunt to come back on both sides correct both from 1772 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 2: his perspective and for our perspective, is that it's because 1773 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:10,360 Speaker 2: it is Nick Chubb. 1774 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,720 Speaker 4: I think that's I think you're exactly right about that, 1775 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 4: and it's they didn't need Kareem Hunt because they had 1776 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 4: Jerome four, but once they lost Nick Chubb, they really 1777 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 4: needed that guy with the veteran to be that compliment 1778 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 4: to him. And so I think that's exactly where that's 1779 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 4: exactly where we're at now. 1780 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 2: One other things, and you know, it was such doom 1781 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 2: it's been Yesterday was tough, obviously, but one of the 1782 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,679 Speaker 2: things that has been a real bright spot through two 1783 01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 2: weeks is the double deuce. 1784 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 3: Happy birthday to him, by the way, Oh how about 1785 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,760 Speaker 3: that says birthday to day, only twenty five years old. 1786 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 3: He's a stud. 1787 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,280 Speaker 5: He is an he's real. 1788 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw it week one against Cincinnati. It continued 1789 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,200 Speaker 2: in the game against Pittsburgh. He's just where he needs 1790 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,680 Speaker 2: to be, and he's there in a hurry, ready to 1791 01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 2: go every time. 1792 01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 5: Yep. 1793 01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,760 Speaker 4: No, he's been phenomenal. He's one of the top graded 1794 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 4: state he's in the National Football League right now. You'd 1795 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 4: go back to the end of last year's and I 1796 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,320 Speaker 4: got four picks in his last six games. He has 1797 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 4: been a game changer, a game wrecker. He has been 1798 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,960 Speaker 4: superb And he's somebody you know that when you talk 1799 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,920 Speaker 4: about you know, the future and succession planning. 1800 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 3: And all of that. 1801 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,040 Speaker 4: To me, he is somebody that I would like to 1802 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:24,760 Speaker 4: see get you know, an extension in the course of 1803 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 4: this season. 1804 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 2: My gosh, he should be a cornerstone based on what 1805 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,600 Speaker 2: we've seen the last half of last year and the 1806 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 2: start of this year. 1807 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 4: Agreed, I don't think you want to see him, you know, 1808 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,679 Speaker 4: kind of get get away from our organization. So that's 1809 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,719 Speaker 4: I'm with you right there, one hundred percent. 1810 01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,479 Speaker 2: No, he's been he's been very very good. And this 1811 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,240 Speaker 2: will be a very very fun week to see and 1812 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 2: very curious to see how this operation looks on Sunday. Yeah, 1813 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 2: now that we go in a very different style. So 1814 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,040 Speaker 2: you hear from coach on that as the preparation begins. 1815 01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 2: They're going to go head to a walk through today 1816 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,960 Speaker 2: and then you're back on the schedule. That is that 1817 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 2: is quite normal with a Thursday Friday, and then you 1818 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,759 Speaker 2: way you go with one o'clock kick down at Cleveland 1819 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 2: Brown Stadium on Sunday. Still so much more to come, 1820 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:08,719 Speaker 2: and we mean that this time. You listen to Cleveland 1821 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 2: Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1822 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bett coming 1823 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,879 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1824 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 2: There's your verry friend Evin. It takes to beat out 1825 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,960 Speaker 2: the competition. 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Yeah, 1833 01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,799 Speaker 2: obviously you can't take an account injury we've had, really, 1834 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:06,120 Speaker 2: you've had three catastrophic injuries in the league in terms 1835 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 2: of season ending stuff to guys who are going to 1836 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,240 Speaker 2: be key players. Certainly two that are on a whole 1837 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 2: nother level, one with Rogers and then obviously Nick, but 1838 01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:14,000 Speaker 2: even JK. 1839 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 5: Dobbins. 1840 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,600 Speaker 2: You had some major injuries that have shaped up the 1841 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 2: way the way that you're going to view this league. 1842 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I go back to our preseason prognostication. I 1843 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 2: mean I had the Jets win in the East, Yeah, 1844 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship game, and I mean it. 1845 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,200 Speaker 3: Was like, that's all gone. 1846 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 2: Man Like to lose, to lose a quarterback, to lose 1847 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback, and you lose the face of the offseason 1848 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:42,760 Speaker 2: in four plays. And by week two you I mean, 1849 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,599 Speaker 2: I heard Kyle Brant talking about this Morning and Good 1850 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 2: Morning Football, and I think he's right. I think Nick 1851 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,839 Speaker 2: Chubb is on a short list of universally liked players. Yes, 1852 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 2: by both fans and media and well especially current players. 1853 01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,920 Speaker 2: Everybody loves Nick Chubb. Mike Tom calls him mister Chubb. 1854 01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 2: So like the idea that that you lose those two 1855 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,720 Speaker 2: guys the first two weeks is an incredible blow to 1856 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:10,840 Speaker 2: the league, but also an incredible switch of how you 1857 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:11,800 Speaker 2: view the AFC. 1858 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 3: Totally. 1859 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,000 Speaker 5: We have a lot to prove. 1860 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,479 Speaker 2: The Jets are going nowhere, and there's been other The 1861 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: AFC has not been as good early as I think 1862 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:21,720 Speaker 2: any of us thought that. 1863 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:22,120 Speaker 5: They would be. 1864 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 4: Now I think that you're right about that, and it's 1865 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 4: been some slow starts in places that's been you know, 1866 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:33,519 Speaker 4: devastating injuries. In other places it has been. Yeah, definitely 1867 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 4: a little bit of a tough go in the opening 1868 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 4: of the AFC. And I was making that joke earlier 1869 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 4: because it occurred to me. I say, like, the guy 1870 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 4: that was build really is and I know, Mahomes, you'd 1871 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,800 Speaker 4: probably say is the biggest star in the NFL. As ever, 1872 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 4: the second biggest star coming into this season and in 1873 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,799 Speaker 4: terms of everything leading up to the season was Aaron Rodgers. 1874 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 4: With the Jets gone after four plays yep, and not 1875 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 4: coming back. 1876 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,719 Speaker 5: That's just I like it. 1877 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,800 Speaker 2: It was a little bit game of thronesy, like all 1878 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 2: of the lead up, the running out with the flag 1879 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 2: on nine eleven, and like all of it, and then 1880 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,720 Speaker 2: it's just gone over and you're just left empty. Like 1881 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,160 Speaker 2: I was very curious to write exactly when that happened. 1882 01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 2: Didn't you think like it was a dream? Like you 1883 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 2: watch it in real time? Could you watch that show 1884 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:12,960 Speaker 2: in real time? 1885 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 5: Did you catch up? 1886 01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 13: No? 1887 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:14,640 Speaker 3: I sure did? 1888 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:15,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. 1889 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:16,800 Speaker 2: So I watched it as it aired, so it wasn't 1890 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,400 Speaker 2: like it and I jumped on. I didn't know about 1891 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 2: the books. I just thought, HBO swords, I'm in, let's 1892 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,200 Speaker 2: give it a shot, and so we watched. 1893 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,440 Speaker 5: And when that happened. 1894 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 2: I thought, the fuck the season and the other thing 1895 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 2: they started doing there was it was the penultimate episode. 1896 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 2: That was the one that had the huge drama. It's 1897 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,400 Speaker 2: something they did well, that was new. It used to 1898 01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 2: always be the series seawards and alley. So it was 1899 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 2: so shocking that it would happen in that manner. I 1900 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,400 Speaker 2: thought for sure that that episode ten would open with 1901 01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,040 Speaker 2: eyes wide away dream and wait, but oh. 1902 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 4: No, no, no, far worse. Listen, that's how the Jets 1903 01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,200 Speaker 4: probably felt when they went to sleep. They thought they'd 1904 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,479 Speaker 4: wake up. That was just a nightmare. 1905 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,760 Speaker 3: No, it's reality. And that's that's the National Football League. Man. 1906 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 4: It goes, it just keeps on going, and it is 1907 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 4: that is tough. It is a tough tough spot to 1908 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 4: be in. That's for dang. 1909 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:05,439 Speaker 3: Sure. 1910 01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's lonely. 1911 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,639 Speaker 3: I mean, that's something that's often the rehab. 1912 01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think about the what what Nick Chubb is 1913 01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,519 Speaker 2: looking at from a rehab standpoint, where Aaron Rodgers is 1914 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,720 Speaker 2: looking at for rehab standpoint, when you're staring down the 1915 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,639 Speaker 2: barrel of a year. And that's why, like you got 1916 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,599 Speaker 2: emotional with Anthony Walker when you had him on and 1917 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 2: we played that on Monday, Like when you lose your 1918 01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 2: season early and you're staring down a you're sitting down 1919 01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 2: a surgery and rehab willy season is happening, and knowing 1920 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,599 Speaker 2: that if it all goes well, maybe a year from 1921 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,600 Speaker 2: now you can be back to what you were, but 1922 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:36,560 Speaker 2: there are no guarantees. 1923 01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,479 Speaker 5: That's brutal. That's a brutal spot. 1924 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 4: It's it's yes, very tough, and it is lonely. I mean, 1925 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,640 Speaker 4: I know some of my buddies, you know, fortunately not 1926 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,639 Speaker 4: going what the missess never has to suffered a big injury, 1927 01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,080 Speaker 4: but you know when they get injured and wrestling and 1928 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,639 Speaker 4: it's like you're just on your couch rehabit or you're 1929 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 4: at the decator surgery and you're just everything else is 1930 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,040 Speaker 4: going on as though it was except for the world 1931 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 4: doesn't out brother. 1932 01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:05,360 Speaker 2: No, All right, Tomorrow we'll start to set our attention 1933 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,720 Speaker 2: to the Tennessee Titans. We'll be here on Sunday. We 1934 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 2: can tell you the next level is coming up. 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