1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: After a week of change, the Giants are focused on 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: getting a W on Sunday, so they are turning to 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: the guy who eats them, you know, eats the w's. 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: That's right, The Jamis Winston Show is back here. What 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Mike kafkis said today about the plan from here for 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Big Blue. The Ravens are suddenly racking up wins and 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: their defense is leading the way. Rookie standout Malki Starks 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: joins the show tonight to discuss his wild draft experience 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: and why he's even happier now that he landed in Baltimore. 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: Get out bit on your preferred fantasy waiver target. Did 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: somebody else blow their entire free agent budget on Kareem Hunt? 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: That's what happened to me. 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be listening closely to Marcus Grant Sleepers 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: and you should too. Welcome inside with the Insiders presented 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: by Progressive Insurance alongside Ian rappaport I am Tom Pelicero. 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Week eleven kicks off tomorrow night, but some people are 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: still talking about Week ten. A. J. Brown is still 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: talking about Week ten and everything else that's happened to 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: this point in the Eagles season. Last night, Brown sounding 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: off about the eagles struggling offense during a stream of 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: a Madden game a short time ago. 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: A J. 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Brown then spoke with reporters and safe to say he 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: is not backing down. 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: It's not just solely about my situation. 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 5: I mean, guys like obvious, I don't want to win too, 27 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 5: you know. 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 6: And I think if we're we're really focusing on winning 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 6: and doing our job like that, we can't just keep 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 6: slapping the band aid over the defense doing their job 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 6: and getting us out of trouble. At what point we're 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 6: gonna pick up box slack as an offense that we're 33 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 6: saying we're so great, you know? And that's what I'm 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 6: getting there. It's not about we're not winning or I 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 6: don't care about winning all I care about his netting step. No, 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 6: it's been a week at the week sometimes we're not contributing, 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 6: we're not doing our job on offense. So you can't 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 6: keep slapping a band aid over there. You expect to 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 6: win later later in the year, and you think you're 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 6: gonna go to it in the year, it's not. It's 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 6: not gonna happen. It's not gonna have you know, last year, 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 6: what it was thank you for the ring. But it's 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 6: a new season. They adapted. We have to adapt and 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 6: we have to continue to like get better and try 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 6: to find new way. So that's that's where a frustration 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 6: comes in because it's not about winning. You guys like 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 6: I don't want to win. Yes, he'll contribute as well, 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 6: do our thing on offense as well. 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: That's I think that's fair. 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: You know who does care about stats, Fantasy players, for 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: whom aj had a message Tuesday night. 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: If you got me on fantasy man, get rid of me. 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: We'll get Marcus Grant's thoughts on that in just a 54 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: little bit, but first your thoughts, Nick Sirianni. 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 7: You can't look at stats and just say this is 56 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 7: what's happen. You can't paint the picture that way. I 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 7: know that's sometimes is all the information that you guys 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 7: may have, but you can't look at it that way 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 7: and just say, here's how the game is playing out. 60 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 7: Like there are reasons and different things. AJ Brown is 61 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 7: one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, so 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 7: of course we're trying to get him involved in the 63 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 7: game every single time time. You know, sometimes it goes 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 7: like it did in the Rams game or the Vikings game, 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 7: and sometimes it goes like it did in this last game. 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: So let's level set here. The Eagles of the Ragning 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions. They are seven and two, they're up 68 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: three and a half games in the NFC East. But 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: there has been this undercurrent brewing for really a couple 70 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: of years now, Ian about exactly what AJ Brown's place 71 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: in the offense is. As much as you can say, yes, 72 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: they are winning games, they're getting there. If you watch 73 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: them on Monday night, you do kind. 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: Of get it. 75 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're really doing you know. 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 9: Aj Brown made the comments on a Madden stream, which 77 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 9: you know, who knows if he thought the comments would 78 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 9: be public. Who knows if he realized that when he 79 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 9: speaks everyone is listening. But to his credit, didn't really 80 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 9: back down today, really said essentially he does want to 81 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 9: get involved. He's one of the best receivers in the NFL. 82 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 9: Something Nick Sirianni said when he talked to reporters today 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 9: as well. The Eagles offense is better when AJ Brown 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 9: is involved. So really there's no reason for him to 85 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 9: apologize it. Just what this does, Tom is this creates 86 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 9: something for all of us and all those in Philly 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 9: to talk about it creates every time a reporter goes 88 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 9: in the locker room, he now has something else to 89 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 9: ask Aj Brown. He now has seven or eight questions 90 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 9: in a row to ask Nick Sirianni. If you want 91 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 9: to call it a distraction, it's at least a distraction 92 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 9: media wise, because this keeps coming up. The real issue 93 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 9: here in Philly is why is this still a topic? 94 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 9: In other words, why is he still not involved? And 95 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 9: Nick Sirianni said it, they are trying to get him involved. 96 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 8: They did that. 97 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 9: Much disputed fourth and sixth pass that was to Aj 98 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 9: Brown to try to get him involved. 99 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 8: It hasn't happened. 100 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 9: If this Eagles team is going to get to where 101 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 9: they were last year, if they are going to repeat, 102 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 9: I think it's pretty fair to say that Aj Brown 103 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 9: has to be more of a part of the offense 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 9: than he previously is, and until and unless he is, 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 9: we're going to have to follow his twitch streams or 106 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 9: whatever just to see what he thinks about all of it. 107 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: And then an odd twist, the first like five questions 108 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: of Jalen Hurts in his press conference and in a 109 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: short time ago all revolved around, hey, why do you 110 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: decide to go for it on that fourth and sixth 111 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: and what do you think that was a throat a 112 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: j Brown that what's trying to get in the ball 113 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: in that situation that certainly there can be some second 114 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: guessing about exactly how wise it was to not, I 115 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: don't know, punt, do something different, Nick Sirianni standing by 116 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: that decision. Elsewhere in the NFC East, the Giants have 117 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: made multiple big decisions this week. You started with the 118 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: firing of Brian Dabele as their head coach on Monday, 119 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Mike Kafka taking. 120 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: Over as the interim head coach. 121 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Kafka announcing today Jamis Winston, not Russell Wilson, going to 122 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: start on Sunday against the Packers with Jackson Dart in 123 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: concussion protocol, and as you'd expect, Jamis is fired up Almo. 124 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: Fans of no Data. I'm going to do my best. 125 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 10: You know, obviously I'm going to have fun, but I'm 126 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 10: going to execute, have a surgical execution, and just play ball, 127 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 10: man like this is something I've been doing since I've 128 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 10: been four years old, and I just get to do 129 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 10: it in. 130 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: The greatest city in the world. 131 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 10: I'm gonna be saying to what my son, Who's the 132 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 10: greatest city in the world. 133 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a Hamilton reference. If y'all don't know it, 134 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: t reunion. 135 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: Damis is gonna have to others. There's apparently that was 136 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: Ian Att had Hamilton last night, So good time? 137 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: Do you wanna do you wanna grace us with a 138 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: few bars too? 139 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 8: I want to be singing. 140 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 9: But the reason why I was there Leslie Odom Junior 141 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 9: is back playing Burr. 142 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 8: He originated the role. 143 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 9: I saw him last night. It was the audience was great, 144 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 9: singing was unbelievable. Now I didn't hear Jamis singing last 145 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 9: night in Hamilton, so I don't believe he was in it. 146 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 9: But maybe they watched his interview and they were like, man, 147 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 9: we need to add this guy to the cast. I 148 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 9: think that is something that probably didn't happen, all. 149 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: Right, so going to Jamis here not Russell Wilson again. 150 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: This is one of those things where if you just 151 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: watch the games, you look at how Russ has looked. Really, 152 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: he had the one game Week two against the Cowboys 153 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: where he lit it up. Everything after that, and of 154 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: course when Jackson Dart then eventually took over to what 155 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: you saw when he replaced Start last week, you just 156 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: got that sense. If you're looking for a spark, if 157 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: you're looking for just even that one week bounce like 158 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: you sometimes see with interim head coaches, you probably need 159 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: a guy who is a human bounce like Jameis Winston 160 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: to step in. 161 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 8: I mean, he's gonna let it fly now. 162 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 9: He let it fly last year for the Browns and 163 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 9: it was thirteen touchdowns twelve interceptions. 164 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 8: Like, if I had to guess, that's probably. 165 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 9: What it's gonna be. But this really didn't seem like 166 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 9: a tough decision at all. We've seen Russell Wilson a 167 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 9: couple times ever since Jackson Dart replaced him, and it's 168 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 9: been just, to be totally honest, just kind of a. 169 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 8: Dud when he's been in there. 170 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 9: Last week, he had the opportunity a couple times to 171 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 9: go in lead his team on a drive win the game, 172 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 9: probably saved Brian Davos's job, and instead, the last pass, 173 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 9: maybe the last pass will ever see Russell Wilson throw 174 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 9: in the NFL, was unable to be thrown essentially, And 175 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 9: I mean, look, this was a no brainer. 176 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 8: This had to happen. And you know, for Mike. 177 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 9: Kafka, the offensive coordinator turned interim head coach. He doesn't 178 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 9: have very many shots at this right like to win 179 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 9: the job, and obviously he wants to win games, but 180 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 9: to win the job, which is what he's really looking for, 181 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 9: you gotta have an improved offensive performance, got to be 182 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 9: better than when Russ's out there. Jamis does give that 183 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 9: jolt of energy. We will see just in a short 184 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 9: quick week what Kafka is able to do to kind 185 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 9: of get this offense going where it should be even 186 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 9: without Jackson Dark. 187 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: And it was one of the first things I was 188 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: told to Mike Kafka thought about after being informed on Monday, 189 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: and move that he said surprised him was we need 190 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: to go to Jameis Winston as the quarterback here. We'll 191 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: see what impact that has on a guy in Kafka 192 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: who has been a finalist. He's had multiple interviews for 193 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: multiple jobs in recent years. Now he's getting an opportunity 194 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: for the first time to be an interim head coach. 195 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 11: I think I think the best head coaches I've been 196 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 11: around are guys that are are confident, poised, have a direction, 197 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 11: have a plan, and then go execute the plan. And 198 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 11: if something goes it's a little bit different. Then you 199 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 11: go back and you adjust. You have flexibility to adjust accountability, 200 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 11: holding guys accountable to the highest standard. If it's not right, 201 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 11: fix it, don't wait and let things just kind of 202 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 11: trickle and snowball, right, So you want to be able 203 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 11: to to be able to do that guys that empower 204 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 11: players to. 205 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: Be their best. 206 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 11: And so those are things that I've learned over my 207 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 11: past that I think are great, great qualities and head 208 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 11: coach and things that I try to bear. 209 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: There have been a whole lot of changes for the 210 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: Giants over the past decade, going back to when Tom 211 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: kaughlin was replaced by Ben mcadu, who had the best 212 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: record of all the head coaches who have come since, 213 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: still was run out midway through his second season. Let's 214 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: bring in Mark Ross and Bucky Brooks to the conversation. Mark, 215 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: you know that organization, Well, you have observed all these 216 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: changes over ten years, but specifically the ones that have 217 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: taken place over the past seventy two hours. Give me 218 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: an idea in your mind of short term, the bigger picture, 219 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: more importantly, what this means for the Giants moving forward. 220 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 12: Yeah, sure, Ben mcadhoe made the playoffs one year two 221 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 12: with Ben but that's a whole nother story there. But 222 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 12: just moving forward, it was definitely interesting that they got 223 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 12: rid of Day Bowl but kept Joe Shane and because 224 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 12: the Giants have done this the third time already of 225 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 12: keeping a GM and firing a head coach, so I 226 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 12: know all Giants fans are kind of outraged, like why 227 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 12: didn't everybody go together, especially since Joe Shane hired Brian Dabole, 228 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 12: and then Brian Dabele essentially was kind of the one 229 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 12: that pushed for Jackson Dart, who is the future. So 230 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 12: you're keeping a guy that hired the head coach that 231 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 12: got fired. But this is the importance of relationships in 232 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 12: the building. Now I've been in that building. I think 233 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 12: Joe Shane is very much tied in with the ownership 234 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 12: and they like him and trust him because of personal relationships. 235 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 12: But moving forward, I mean, they're going have to really 236 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 12: get an established head coach in here. Not you show 237 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 12: three guys that had experience there not much experience as 238 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 12: a head coach at all, and then Pat Shermer, who 239 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 12: hadn't had winning experience. So Bucky moving forward with the Giants, 240 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 12: whether Joe Shane is the long term answer throughout the 241 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 12: year and next year making the decisions because ownership is 242 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 12: going to be heavily involved. It's got to be somebody 243 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 12: that has experienced with winning, not just experience or not 244 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 12: the hot coordinator. 245 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 13: You know, it's funny, Mark because you talk about experience 246 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 13: and you notice that it's always been an offensive coach 247 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 13: that has been the guy that has kind of been 248 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 13: the apple of the Giants and continue to do that. 249 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 13: If you have a guy like a Mike McCarthy that 250 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 13: comes in experience, has won, has won in Green Bay, 251 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 13: won in Dallas, even though it wasn't to the liking 252 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 13: of Cowboys fans. 253 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 4: But the one thing that you do. 254 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 13: Know is he has a blueprint that has been successful. 255 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 13: International Football League. Other guys that could potentially be on 256 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 13: the radar. They'll talk about Steve Spagnola, They'll talk Abot 257 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 13: Anthonio appears because he knows the building. 258 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: He's part of jians lore. 259 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 13: He had one year really with the La Raiders, the 260 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 13: Las Vegas Raiders, and it didn't go great. But he's 261 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 13: been a head coach. But to me, it has to 262 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 13: be someone who has experienced. It has to be someone 263 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 13: who has run a program before, and it has to 264 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 13: be someone who has a personality that can get along 265 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 13: with the gentlemanager Joe Shane, because that partnership needs to 266 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 13: be in lockstep if the giantsy will get back on track. 267 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Bucky Mark, thank you very much, do not move. We 268 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: got more from you in a bit, including on that 269 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: Seahawks rams showdown first, more news, including no, this is 270 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: not a rerun. Lamar Jackson did not practice today for 271 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Now coach John Harbaugh said he's just dealing 272 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: with some knee soreness. Should be good to go on Sunday. 273 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: This is Lamar, though you're never entirely certain exactly what 274 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: direction things might head. Ravens are at Cleveland on Sunday. 275 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 9: Ian Oh, you want to talk about a quarterback where 276 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 9: you're not entirely certain what you're going to get? Cool, 277 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 9: Let's talk about Brock party one once again was limited 278 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 9: at practice. 279 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 8: By the way, so is Ricky Piersoll. We'll see if he. 280 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 9: Ends up getting on the field Sunday, but let's talk 281 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 9: about Brock once again limited. Now, Kyle shan Shanahan had 282 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 9: said their hope, hope is that Perdy plays on Sunday. 283 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 9: You watch the practice film from local reporters. It looked 284 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 9: much more intense than it has been in the past. 285 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 9: So maybe you'll get to be a full participant tomorrow 286 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 9: or Friday, and then maybe start Sunday, but TBD. As 287 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 9: of now, for the Arizona Cardinals, they got some not 288 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 9: great news, I would say for one of their top receivers, 289 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 9: Marvin Harrison Junior, was ruled out for week eleven against 290 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 9: these San Francisco forty nine ers after undergoing it apidectomy. 291 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 9: Now there is a possibility that he missed his additional 292 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 9: weeks as well. Some people respond well to this and 293 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 9: they can go out in place. 294 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: Some do not. 295 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 8: Up in the air as far as his availability. 296 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 9: But for the Arizona Cardinals had a rough one this 297 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 9: past weekend. Need to get a win, not having their 298 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 9: top receiver Tom Stings. 299 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Top receivers Garrett Wilson ruled out by the Jets for 300 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow night's game against the Patriots, dealing with yet another 301 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: injury to his knee. Not a surprise, but certainly another 302 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: frustrating moment for Wilson, who has been dealing with that 303 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: knee for the past month. Aaron Glenn technically hasn't said 304 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: who's started a quarterback, but they're pretty good. He'll be 305 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: justin fields having to look for other wide receivers. Commanders 306 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: and Dolphins are over in Madrid. Of course, it is 307 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota starting in place of their starting quarterback Jayden 308 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: Daniels on Sunday, which means, and you got a match 309 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: up of a couple of dudes from Hawaii won that 310 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Tua tongue. 311 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: Bailoa is looking forward to. 312 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 14: Long story short. I think a lot of people know 313 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 14: I looked up to Marcus when I was in high school. 314 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 14: He was at Oregon, then when he transitioned getting drafted 315 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 14: to the Tennessee Titans. You know, he you know, I 316 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 14: was a big fan of him. Still am just of 317 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 14: the person that he is outside of the player, and 318 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 14: you know, just happy for for his success. I know 319 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 14: he's been going through ebbs and flows throughout you know, 320 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 14: years and teams. But if you get to know the 321 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 14: kind of person he is, I think, you know, the 322 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 14: playing and whatnot is his second you know, so I 323 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 14: would say not playing Jayden Daniels. No, he's a great player, 324 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 14: but you know that that's not who I'd be playing 325 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 14: against I'd be playing against their defense and vice versa. 326 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 9: I will be up early watching the game on the 327 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 9: pregame show. 328 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 8: Will this guy right here? 329 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 9: That's Bucky Irvin, the Bucks starting running back and one 330 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 9: of the better players at his position, who has barely 331 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 9: played due to a foot and shoulder injury. He was 332 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 9: back at practice for the tam Bay Buccaneers today. Excellent 333 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 9: excellent news. By the way, so is Chris Godwin, who's 334 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 9: been dealing with a leg injury. Todd Bowles weighed in 335 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 9: on the potential return of his running. 336 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 15: Back and that was a walkthrough I limited today. We'll 337 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 15: see what he does tomorrow and that Friday. So it's 338 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 15: good to have him back out there, and it's the 339 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 15: first to him becoming pilotive and starting to work his 340 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 15: way back. 341 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 7: Are you going to be in full pads at all 342 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 7: this week where he can test that shoulder? 343 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 15: No, we're not gonna be a full pads all right. 344 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 8: So remains to be seen whether or not Bucky Irving 345 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 8: will play. 346 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 9: But let's talk about it with our good friend Brian Balder. 347 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 8: What's up all? So the Bucks get the bills. 348 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 9: I believe sources tell me that you will be there 349 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 9: for this game, which will be fun. So the Bills 350 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 9: have struggled to stop the run. I think that's pretty obvious. 351 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 9: The Bucks potentially are looking at getting their starting running 352 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 9: back back. How big of a factor could this be 353 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 9: in this game. 354 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 16: Well, you look at last week Ian and the trouble 355 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 16: that the Buffalo defense had stopping Devon a Chan. He 356 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 16: had the best game he's had all year. It was 357 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 16: big runs, it was between the tackles, it was explosive runs. 358 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 16: The Bills have had problems. I mean, you go back 359 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 16: to you know, Derek Henry, you know in the first week, 360 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 16: and you look at Jeon what he did to this 361 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 16: Bills defense. They have given up a lot of big runs. 362 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 16: It It's been a problem, not just this year, but 363 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 16: in past years also. And so whether Bucky plays or not, 364 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 16: it's got to be a priority right now for Sean 365 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 16: McDermott to be able to tighten things up up front 366 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 16: and get the run fits fixed. Otherwise what we saw 367 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 16: last week from Devon could very easily happen, especially if 368 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 16: Bucky Irvin should be ready to go on the other side. 369 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: Though I was there. 370 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 16: Last week in announcing that New England and Tampa Bay game, 371 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 16: and the Bucks gave up a ton of big plays 372 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 16: last week defensively. I mean, you think about this throw 373 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 16: right here on the outside to Mac Collins. Okay, he 374 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 16: beat Benjamin Morrison right there. That's Kyle Williams right there 375 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 16: for a seventy two yard touchdown right there. And the 376 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 16: throws right here, like over the middle to Stefan Diggs, 377 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 16: and to throw at the end of the first half 378 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 16: the Digs and this run right here by Treyvon Anderson. 379 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 16: I mean he went fifty five yards to pay Der. 380 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 16: He went sixty nine yards to pay her. 381 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: They gave up more big plays as they might have 382 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 4: given up all year. 383 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 16: This really cemented the game right there at the very 384 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 16: end when he went sixty nine yards. And so you know, 385 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 16: if you're Tampa Bay, you do not want to have 386 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 16: that on your resume, and you don't want that two 387 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 16: weeks in a row up there in Buffalo with Josh 388 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 16: Allen's ability to create those kind of plays, whether he's 389 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 16: running it or whether it's extending plays and getting them 390 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 16: ball down the field. So I think both teams have 391 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 16: defensive issues that they need to clear up if they 392 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 16: both want to get their seventh win. 393 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: This week up in Buffalo. 394 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, just listening to what you're saying, sounds like some 395 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 9: offensive fireworks in which should be a very very entertaining game. 396 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 8: Hopefully for all of us, hopefully for you, Baldy, great stuff. 397 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 8: Don't go anywhere. 398 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 9: More from you, coming up, more from these guys coming up. 399 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 8: What a game we got in the NFC. 400 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 9: West this Sunday Seahawks Rams showdown for first place. 401 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 8: Are these the two best teams in the division? 402 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 9: I don't know, but we're going to get to see 403 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 9: them play it out on the field Sunday. Wait for 404 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 9: that one can wait for this guy right here, that 405 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 9: is Malachi Starks. Two picks the last two games, plus 406 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 9: the biggest thing in his career so far. 407 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 8: He's going to join us on the Insiders. Coming right out. 408 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 17: The Insiders is presented by Progressive get coverage you can 409 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 17: count on with Home and Auto at Progressive dot Com. 410 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: And McCarthy floating it for Jefferson down field. 411 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 8: But it's intercepted, picked off by Malachi. 412 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Starks and Starks looking for some morning room, tracked down 413 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: from behind by. 414 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 11: Jordan Edison two on second down drops the throw sets. 415 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: His speech going deep. He's got a man with the 416 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: twenty yard. 417 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 18: Line and it's picked off. 418 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: Malacky stuff pulled it down. 419 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: And I'm no rookie with us park NFL interception returns 420 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: into the forty five yard line before. 421 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 8: He stepped around and with Nick clod he left to play. 422 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: One of the best rookies in the NFL, one of 423 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the best defensive players in the NFL over the past 424 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, Ravens rookie Malachi starts joining us right 425 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: now here on the Insiders with me, Tom Peliicero as 426 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: well as Ian Rappaport. Malachi, you guys disrupted justin Jefferson 427 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: and that Vikings offense last week. It seems like as 428 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: you guys have gotten healthier, you're getting better and better. 429 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: What's working for you in this Ravens defense right now? 430 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, uh, first, thanks for having me, and 431 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is is just really guys 432 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: trusting guys to do their job, allowing guys to fly 433 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: around to have fun, but also just the brotherhood and 434 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: the connection that we're building on this defense. I mean, 435 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: guys are really you know, going out there and just 436 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 3: kind of letting it loose, which is allowing other guys 437 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: to you know, make plays other guys to run around, 438 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 3: and you know, we say, like we don't really care 439 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: who makes the play as long as the play gets made. 440 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 5: So just us building that connection, I think is huge. 441 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 5: Over the last few weeks. 442 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 9: Last couple of games, you have made plenty of plays, 443 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 9: specifically two interceptions. 444 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 8: You went seven games without. Last two games you've each 445 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 8: had one. 446 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 9: Is is something slowing down for you to kind of 447 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 9: allow you to have that? And I guess for the 448 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 9: first couple of games where you're like, you know, when 449 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 9: am I going to get my first NFL pick? 450 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think it's kind of you know, 451 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: you want it like right away, you know, but that's 452 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 3: just sometimes it works like that and sometimes it doesn't. 453 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 3: But it's really just uh, trusting myself in my preparation 454 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: is just really you know, the guys throughout the week, 455 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: you know, just the work that we put in, and 456 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: when I see something, just don't hesitate. 457 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: Just kind of like I said earlier, just kind of 458 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 5: let loose and go play. 459 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, a lot of the experience 460 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: that we have on our defense has allowed me to 461 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: do that. 462 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: You played with and against a lot of really good 463 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: players in the sec at Georgia. When you look around 464 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: this defense and you're with guys like Kyle Hamilton and 465 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: Rokwan Smith and Marlon Humfrey has been a really good 466 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: play for a long time. What if anything if you 467 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: picked up from those guys relatively short period of time, 468 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: that might have helped your game. 469 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, uh, something Kyle says all the time, 470 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: it's just go play goodball, and it's you know, when 471 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: you're in the best safety in the league. It's easy to 472 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: say that for him. But I think just being just 473 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: being under his wing. I mean, all those guys just 474 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: allowing me to really learn how they see the game 475 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: of football. But just you know, watch and you know us, 476 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: I don't know he I mean, just his experience and 477 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: what he brings. I mean just I'm learning from everybody, 478 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: you know, and I mean it's special and I'm super grateful. 479 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: So just being able to be in a room like 480 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: that with a bunch of elite guys who've been doing 481 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: an elite level for a long time, it's it's really 482 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 3: a blessing. 483 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 9: You guys have had such an interesting season, right, I mean, 484 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 9: obviously you start off struggling more than you guys have 485 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 9: had as an organization. Years now you want to bunch 486 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 9: and row in and it look like you guys are 487 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 9: kind of in the middle of a role. 488 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 5: Now. 489 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 9: You hadn't been with this team, obviously you're rookie before 490 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 9: this year. Was the first part of the season a 491 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 9: little weird. I mean, we're guys telling you like, no, no, no, 492 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 9: we're good. I trust us, Like this is a good team. 493 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 9: Like was that kind of odd to kind of go through? 494 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 495 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 5: It was weird for me. 496 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: Because like coming from college, I mean I didn't really 497 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: I didn't really lose a lot. I mean, but there 498 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 3: was never like a the faith never you know, dropped 499 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 3: at all. You know, God's always kept their faith in. 500 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: You know, the message was always the same, and God's 501 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: never had a bad attitude about anything, you know. So 502 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: that's like kind of when I knew that, like, that's 503 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: that's not the case, you know. And I think watching 504 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: the older guys and how they handled their situation and 505 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: just you know, me being a younger guy trying to 506 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: learn my role and how I fit in on the 507 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: team but also still be myself. I think I kind 508 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: of kept that same attitude, and you know, it's just 509 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: been it's just been special. 510 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: You know, any week is any week is every week 511 00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 5: is a new week. 512 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: The goal is to go want to know each week, 513 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: and I think that's just our mindset moving forward. 514 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: You were in Green Bay for the draft back in April, 515 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: and there was no guarantee exactly when you were going 516 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: to go. 517 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: I actually bumped into you. You were coming into do 518 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: an interview on NFL Network. 519 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: I was headed back to the hotel for a break 520 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: between shows, and you told me you're like, listen, I'm 521 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: going to go out and like buy some card games, 522 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: board games to play with the family and kind of 523 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: pass the time. 524 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: Did you do that? And what was that weight like 525 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: until you finally came off the board at number twenty seven? 526 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: Uh? 527 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I brought un know my family. 528 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: We're big on h know, so we played it, you know, 529 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 3: because it could have been an early night or it 530 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: could be along n you know, I didn't really know. 531 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 3: It was just a blessing to be there, but I 532 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 3: mean it was special to us, opportunity that I'll never 533 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: get back again. You know, you only go through it once, 534 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: and I landed at the perfect place. I mean, I mean, 535 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: it's beyond a blessing. You know, guys put me in 536 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: the best spot possible, around the best people possible. 537 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 5: I mean, so that was a special right and I'm 538 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 5: just I'm grateful to be here. 539 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 8: I want to go back to the draft as well. 540 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 8: You and I talked. 541 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 9: I think it was the Wednesday before the draft in 542 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 9: the Clutch at the Clutch party, I was talking to 543 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 9: your your parents, I believe in your fiance, and they 544 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 9: all hate to fly, and they were talking about how 545 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 9: their plan was to drive to all of your games. 546 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 8: Has that happened? 547 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 9: Have they been or have they started flying because now 548 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 9: you're in the NFL and you had games all over 549 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 9: or do they still drive to come see you play? 550 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 3: Uh no, so my my parents flew once. My lives 551 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: with me, of course, but uh they they've driven every game. 552 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: They drove the. 553 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 5: Buffalo from from Georgia, so that was a good low hike. 554 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 5: Uh but no, they've they've driven. 555 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: We're not a really big flying family, but I think 556 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: we're We're justin at least I am, you know, because 557 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: I got a fly every other week some games to it. 558 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 8: There we go. 559 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: The last thing for you real quick, Harry turned twenty 560 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: to tomorrow. I know, you're getting ready for the Browns 561 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: and it's a big week, but you give yourself a 562 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: little break. 563 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do tomorrow for fun? 564 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: You cook your cake, watch a little film, and go 565 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 3: to bed early. That's that's my that's my night of 566 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: fun cooking. 567 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: That's all of our dreams right there. We're older. 568 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: We just want to go to bed all the time. Malachi, 569 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: thanks a ton for being here. Man, great seeing you again. 570 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Best luck the rest of the season. 571 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 5: Thank you appreciate it. 572 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: Time now for good. 573 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: Coverage presented by Progressive Insurance. The Leader Boom appears to 574 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: be back in Seattle, where the Seahawks whole quarterbacks to 575 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: the fifth lowest passer rating in the league at eighty 576 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: three point three percent. Seahawks corners Wreek Woolan and Josh 577 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: job have been locked down in man coverage on the 578 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: two lowest completion percentage while playing a man coverage in 579 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Woolen leads the league allowing just twenty 580 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: one point one percent completions. Job in second at twenty 581 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: eight point six. This according to next jen Stats, a 582 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: huge matchup Seahawks ran on Sunday, so we need everybody 583 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: here Welcome back to the Insiders presented to Buy Progressive Insurance. 584 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: Tom Belisaro, Brian Baldier, Mark Ross, Bucky Brooks are triplets 585 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: right here to break this down. And Baldi, you know 586 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: that Sean McVay has been mister eleven personnel, at least 587 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: it was early in his career with the Rams, but 588 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: we've seen a little evolution. 589 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 2: What do you see it on tape? 590 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 16: Well, a whole lot more than one tight end on 591 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 16: the field. Last week we saw three in routine. Thirteen 592 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 16: personnel groupings. But they play four tight ends, they dress 593 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 16: four tight ends, and they get them all involved and 594 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 16: they all have a different purpose. And you can look 595 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 16: at all the different plays I'm going to show you here. 596 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 16: Here's there Higbee Allen in Parkinson and you're going to 597 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 16: see just the combo block with Parkinson right there up 598 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 16: to the middle linebacker. You can see Davis Allen along 599 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 16: with hatebe as tailand Williams scores easily. Here's a here's 600 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 16: a look right here Davis Allen and the things that 601 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 16: they do with him, sort of like that f bac 602 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 16: hvac right now here. He's the lead back right here 603 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 16: for Kyro going up right up here on the middle 604 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 16: linebacker the forty nine ers and button them up and 605 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 16: then Kyra Williams cutting right off. But you can see 606 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 16: a tight ended bunch formation. 607 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 2: You don't see this very often. 608 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 16: Heyb will stay in like right here, Davis Parkinson's going 609 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 16: to get the block to seal the edge so that 610 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 16: Stafford can get out, and Davis Allen is going to 611 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 16: catch this pass off with scramble drill, his third touchdown 612 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 16: catch of the season. And you cannot forget about the rookie, 613 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 16: all right, And you can't forget about like right here, 614 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 16: Davis Allison in motion, he's gonna block, and then they're 615 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 16: gonna just drag a tight end parking Parkinson across the formation. 616 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 16: Here the forty nine ers bump into each other. Parkinson 617 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 16: has left free east course his first touchdown of the season. 618 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 16: And then the rookie Jarrence Purgason here there's the second 619 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 16: round pick at Oregon. They get him matched up on 620 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 16: the forty nine ers linebacker right here, a little out 621 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 16: and up double move, and Stafford's just. 622 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: Waiting on the rooky. 623 00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: They get open and they get a. 624 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 16: Big after the forty nine ers closed the gap. But 625 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 16: I gain to twenty eight twenty they got the big 626 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 16: explosive play from Ferguson. So the Rams have a lot 627 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 16: of different packages. They can play all four tight ends, 628 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 16: three of them at one time a bunch, and I 629 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 16: think it was a big part of the Rams' biggest 630 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 16: offensive output of the season last week against the division 631 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 16: rival in the San Francisco forty nine. 632 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 13: You know, Baldy, the thirteen personnel package that the Rams 633 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 13: are using with the three tight ends, the unit is 634 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 13: seventeen percent of the time, more than anybody else in 635 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 13: the league. And from a defensive perspective, it's a nightmare 636 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 13: to have to defend against because in essence, what they 637 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 13: have the ability to do is they can. 638 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: Put all three tight ends on one side like you show. 639 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 13: It creates an unbalanced formation because they're five people to 640 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 13: that side. So now you got to bump over and 641 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 13: get out of source. The next play, they can put 642 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 13: one of those guys in the backfield. Now you deal 643 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 13: them with an id formation, two tight ends, and it's problematic. 644 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: They can spread them out. 645 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 13: They can do all these different things, and so as 646 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 13: a defensive play caller, you're trying to figure out do I. 647 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: Stay in base, do I go goal line. Do you 648 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: even have to pay a nickel? 649 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 13: They are dictating the terms and they're making the game easy, 650 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 13: not only in the run game, but in the passing game. 651 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 13: For Matthew Stafford bringing an idea from Sean McVay, and 652 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 13: it's one that teams that face the Rams down the 653 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 13: stretch you better get ready for because it's problematic. 654 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: Mark. 655 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: We invoked the Legion of Boom there in the good 656 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: coverage segment and this, certainly this defense looks statistically the 657 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: way they play similar to what we saw back in 658 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen when the Seahawks were the best team in football. 659 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: What I'm struck by is the offense is more consistent 660 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: throwing the ball than they ever were in those days. 661 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: What do you see right now in terms of how 662 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: well rounded this Seattle team is? 663 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm seeing a team that may have an argument 664 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 12: as the most complete team in the league. And that's 665 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 12: because of First of all, they've got the number three 666 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 12: scoring offense in the league, led by Sam Darnold, who's 667 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 12: earning every penny that they gave him this offseason, playing 668 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 12: like a. 669 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: Top five quarterback. 670 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 12: I could get into the MVP conversation if he keeps 671 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 12: playing like this and he's dropping all those bombs to 672 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 12: Jackson Smith and Jigma, who leads the league in the 673 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 12: total yards there, and then with I think the Rashid 674 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 12: Shaheed signing is just going to even add to the 675 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 12: explosiveness of that pass game. And they haven't even unleashed 676 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 12: the run game yet. I think Kenneth Walker is still 677 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 12: waiting to break out. So that's still there. The defensive side, 678 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 12: we saw the corners there and then led by the 679 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 12: front with Burphy and Williams, and then the back end 680 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 12: there with the rookie Nick Amana Warre who is just 681 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 12: the Kyle Hamilton West Coast, let's just say now. And 682 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 12: then Mike McDonald who of course has made his name 683 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 12: as the defensive genius, but has shown himself as a 684 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 12: complete head coach as well and one of the bright 685 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 12: young stars Bucky in the league coming up. So when 686 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 12: you talk about a top five all, it's a top 687 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 12: five defense and playmakers at all levels on both sides 688 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 12: of the field. 689 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: With a great head coach, they're gonna be a hard out. 690 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 4: They're definitely going to be a heart out. 691 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 13: Had a chance to witness it first in when the 692 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 13: Seattle Seahawks came down to Jacksonville and you saw the 693 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 13: front line dominance, meaning that defensive front. The young guys 694 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 13: are not getting enough credit byan Murphy being able to 695 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 13: get it done. Leonard Williams, the Vet is doing the 696 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 13: DeMarcus Lawrence. They got so many young guys that they're 697 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 13: throwing in there. They overwhelm you with their talent. And 698 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 13: this is a classic John Snyder team. They're big, fast, physical, 699 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 13: they're versatile. They continue to keep adding young pieces to 700 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 13: the puzzle and Mike McDonald has done a great job 701 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 13: of elevating everything in the program. Yeah, the Seattle Seahawks 702 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 13: are real and this battle between the Rams and the 703 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 13: Seahawks may be a preview to an NFC championship game 704 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 13: that we may see down the road. 705 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 9: Welcome back to the Insiders, presented by Progressive of Insurance, 706 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 9: where you can learn that your fantasy lineup is not 707 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 9: as good as this one, and if you're like me, 708 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 9: it's not even close. That's your perfect fantasy lineup. Note 709 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 9: all the guys that you don't have on your team, 710 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 9: now this is more like it. 711 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 8: This is like my team. That's the end perfect lineup. 712 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 9: All the players who are not good enough to start 713 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 9: for anyone else except for me. 714 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 8: That's basically my life. Let's get an experts take on it. 715 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 9: This is Marcus my words with our good friend Marcus Grant. 716 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 8: So I want to go. 717 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 9: We got plenty of things to talk to you about, 718 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 9: but first I want to talk about AJ Brown since 719 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 9: he created some news in the fantasy world with this 720 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 9: right here, saying if you got me on Fantasy man, 721 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 9: get rid of me. So the big question for you, Marcus, 722 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 9: are we dropping AJ Brown from our fantasy team. 723 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 19: We are not dropping AJ Brown, although admittedly it's not 724 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 19: the greatest position to be in because yeah, the production 725 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 19: has been inconsistent, especially relative to where you likely drafted 726 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 19: him in your fantasy league. But he is still a 727 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 19: primary weapon in the passing game. He went six straight 728 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 19: games of at least six targets, so he's getting usage. 729 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: The problem is. 730 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 19: The production has not really followed it. 731 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: So I can. 732 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 19: Understand maybe not having him in your starting life. But 733 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 19: if you drop him, I guarantee you someone else in 734 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 19: your league will snatch him up quicker than you can blink. 735 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 9: And if you're in a keeper league, you probably want 736 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 9: to keep him around it now, for this year for 737 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 9: next year. He's always going to ball whenever he is 738 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 9: on the field. All right, now, let's get to the 739 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 9: reason why we have you here. Give us some sleepers 740 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 9: that I could try to get just like a little 741 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 9: bit better. 742 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 8: We'll start at the quarterback position. 743 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 19: Go all right, well, starting at quarterback, it's going to 744 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 19: be too a tongue of ioloa. And I know it's 745 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 19: been a struggle for the Dolphins for much of the year, 746 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 19: but we have seen to really be able to take 747 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 19: advantage of favorable matchups, and this one is about as 748 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 19: favorable as they come. Washington, by the numbers, the third 749 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 19: best matchup for fantasy quarterbacks this season. Five weeks in 750 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 19: a row, they've allowed a quarterback to get you at 751 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 19: least nineteen fantasy points. Four of those five games, the 752 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 19: quarterback has been above twenty two fantasy points. We're seeing 753 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 19: to as start to find a rhythm, especially with Jalen 754 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 19: Waddle getting the ball out to the backfield to Devon 755 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 19: a Chan. So this feels like a real good opportunity 756 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 19: if you stream quarterbacks are certainly in two quarterback formats 757 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 19: to have two a starting for you. 758 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 9: You mentioned navon a chair, No sleeper there but once 759 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 9: you give me a running back sleeper from my lineup. 760 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 19: Let's go to Quinn Sewn Judkins with the Cleveland Browns. 761 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 19: And the Browns obviously offensively are a little bit of 762 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 19: a mess this year, but you go back to Week 763 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 19: two when Judkins made his NFL debut, it was against 764 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 19: the Baltimore Ravens, went for sixty one yards on tim carries. 765 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 19: Actually gave you ten fantasy points if you were old 766 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 19: enough to start him at five games this year with seventy. 767 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 8: Five or more rushing yards. 768 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 19: And while the Ravens run defense has improved from where 769 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 19: it was early in the season, we did see Aaron 770 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 19: Jones have a few nice runs, rip off a few 771 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 19: big games, average over five yards per carries. So I 772 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 19: do think with the Browns maybe not wanting to put 773 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 19: everything on the arm of Dylan Gabriel, I think they 774 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 19: lean on Quinn Shawn Judkins, and he's a nice flex 775 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 19: option I think for a lot of fantasy managers. 776 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 9: All right, cool, another one I don't have. What about 777 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 9: the wide receiver position. Give me a sleeper there. 778 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 19: I'm gonna go Jordan Addison here, And the numbers for 779 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 19: Addison last week weren't particularly great against Baltimore, but it 780 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 19: wasn't for lack of effort on his part, or even 781 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 19: on JJ McCarthy's part. Eleven targets last week against the Ravens. 782 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 19: He's had fifteen targets overall in the two games he's 783 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 19: played this season with JJ McCarthy. It did help a 784 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 19: little bit that McCarthy threw the ball forty two times. 785 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 19: Now they get to Chicago Bears, which has been a 786 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 19: top three favorable matchup four wide receivers, especially over the 787 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 19: last month or so. They've given up the third most 788 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 19: yards to the position in that span. So I think, 789 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 19: especially if it ended up being another high pass volume 790 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 19: game for McCarthy and the Vikings, Addison is a nice 791 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 19: wide receiver. 792 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 4: Three play. 793 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 8: Now we're talking. He is my wide receiver. 794 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: Three. 795 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 8: Let's go, all right, give me a tight end sleeper, 796 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 8: William Mark. 797 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 19: We'll go back to that Madrid game. I mentioned to 798 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 19: a tongue of Ia Looe while on the other side 799 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 19: you got zach Ertz. And some of this is just 800 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 19: about who's not going to be there for the Commanders. 801 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 19: I mean, we know Jayden Daniel's not going to play, 802 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 19: Terry McLaurin not expected to play Mark. There's Mariota in 803 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 19: at quarterback, and he has looked in ERT's direction quite 804 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 19: a bit. The number one target for Mariota has been 805 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 19: Deebo Samuel, but number two has been zach Ertz. Fourteen catches, 806 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 19: one hundred and fifty six yards and a touchdown and 807 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 19: a good matchup. For as good as Miami has been 808 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 19: against wide receivers, they have been driving the struggle bus 809 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 19: against the tight end position. Third best matchup for the position. 810 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 19: So I just think the ball's got to go somewhere. 811 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 19: Zach Ertz is probably going to be a beneficiary of that. 812 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 9: Okay, last thing for you, Marcus, and I am for 813 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 9: short taken notes. I play in an IDP like, so 814 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 9: this then really applied to me. But why don't you 815 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 9: give me a sleeper defense? 816 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 4: All right? 817 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 19: A lot of folks are gonna think I'm a little 818 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 19: bit sideways on this one, but I'm gonna say the 819 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 19: Dallas Cowboys, and they've been a defense that we have 820 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 19: been targeting the other way in fantasy all season long. 821 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 8: But very quietly. 822 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 19: They put together double digit fantasy points in two of 823 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 19: their last three games. They even scored eleven points in 824 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 19: that game. Against Arizona, where they looked like they had 825 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 19: no answers for Jacoby Brissett and. 826 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 8: The Cardinals offense. 827 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 19: The good news for the Cowboys is that the Raiders 828 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 19: have given the ball at least once in eight of 829 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 19: their nine games so far this season. They've allowed multiple 830 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 19: sacks in seven of their nine games. Gino Smith has 831 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 19: been bitten by the interception bug multiple times this season. 832 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 19: So even if the Raiders were able to move the 833 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 19: ball and score some points, sacks and turnovers that's how 834 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 19: you get points with the fantasy defense, and there's an 835 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 19: opportunity for the Cowboys to get plenty of both. 836 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 9: All right, Not notice Marcus great sup as always, thank 837 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 9: you very much for hanging out with us, and I 838 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 9: will not be dropping aj Brown anytime soon despite what 839 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 9: he says, Appreciate you man. 840 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd was back in action for the Jaguars this 841 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: past Sunday and was a tackling machine in a game 842 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: that Jacksonville somehow lost at Houston. Jaggs in need of 843 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: a bounce back this week against the Chargers. For more 844 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: on that game, Let's bring in our Bucky Brooks with me. 845 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: Tom Piliicero, all the insiders presented by Progressive Insurance. Bucky, 846 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: you spend plenty of time around that Jaguars team. That 847 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: game got away from them in so many different ways. 848 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: How do they rebound to get things back on track? 849 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 13: Look, they have to be honest with how they lost 850 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 13: that game, twenty nine to ten fourth quarter lead that 851 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 13: they squandered away. And if you lose thirty six to 852 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 13: twenty nine and you can't get that back, and so 853 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 13: what you have to do is you have to own 854 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 13: up to your mistakes, find a way to fix it 855 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 13: and get better. And when I think about getting better, 856 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 13: let's start with the offense. This offense has been at 857 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 13: its best, but they've been able to run the football effectively. 858 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 13: Travis It's the end, has been effective, running between the. 859 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 4: Tackles, getting on the edges. 860 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 13: And when he runs effectively, its eases It allows Trevor 861 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 13: Lawrence to ease into the game. It makes it easy 862 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 13: to find those big plays down the field. And even 863 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 13: though Travis Hunter is no longer to feel we think 864 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 13: about Brian Thomas Junior getting back, you have Jacoby Myers 865 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 13: coming over in the emergency Park of Washington. This offense 866 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 13: can put points on the board and they gonna need 867 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 13: it because the Chargers play a brand the ball that 868 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 13: is very, very difficult for most teams to deal with. 869 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 13: When we think about offensively, they want to be physical, 870 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 13: they want to come at you. They have that Jim 871 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 13: Harbaugh toughness and bred it in them. But then it's 872 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 13: a Justin Herbert throwing the ball all over the yard, 873 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 13: Lab McConkie Ronde Guessen, Junior, Keenan Allen. They are problematic, 874 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 13: and then Quentin Johnson being able to be the big 875 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 13: play master on the outside. Defensively, jesse Mina is going 876 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 13: to keep the score down. They don't let the ball 877 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 13: get over the top. So you're always going to be 878 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 13: in these tight, low scoring affairs, and Justin Herbert is 879 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 13: the difference maker. This is a game where Trevor Lawrence 880 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 13: is going to have to level up. He is going 881 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 13: to how to outplay Justin Herbert for. 882 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 4: The Jags to win. Can't wait to see it because 883 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in the building. 884 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert won tough dudey, So I'm to get rolled 885 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: up last week so I'm all finished out that game, 886 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: not even listed on the injury report today, so he 887 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: is good to go against the Jaguars, Bucky, thank you 888 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: very much. 889 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: We will see you again soon. 890 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: In fact, everybody, we'll see you again soon, because you're 891 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: on the Insiders often, and we are on five days 892 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: a week Tuesday, Wednesday Friday, seven pm Eastern Time on 893 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 1: NFL Network. 894 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: Podcast five days a. 895 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 8: Week, YouTube five days a week. 896 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: Stick around. There's still more of this show. 897 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: Next, the Commanders square off against the Dolphins as Sunday 898 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: Morning Football makes its Madrid debut, presented by NetApp. Get 899 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: ready to wake up and watch, because here our stars 900 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: come out in the morning Sunday, nine thirty am Eastern 901 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: only on NFL Network and also streaming with NFL Plus. 902 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: Subchurch required for NFL Plus. Visit plus dot NFL dot 903 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: com for terms. Rob Gronkowski hasn't suited up in a 904 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: few years, but as of today he is officially retiring. 905 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: As a New England Patriot? 906 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 8: Or is he? 907 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 11: Since we play the Jets tomorrow night, how about a 908 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 11: two day contract, let's do it? 909 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 18: Okay, changed, all right, Let's say let's take the hypothetical 910 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 18: here I and Gronk suits up tomorrow night. 911 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: How many catches does he get against the Jets? 912 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 9: Well, first of all, at least one because they're gonna 913 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 9: make sure that he catches it. My guess would be 914 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 9: he goes five for sixty five with a couple nasty blocks. 915 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 8: Not quite like Gold Times, but good enough. He's crossed, 916 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 8: so you