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Speaker 1: It's summer. I'm very excited that summer's here. Although one

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Speaker 1: You know that one. Can't get it out of my mind,

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Speaker 1: I am your mother, listen to me. I love that song,

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Speaker 1: Megan Trainer. I think I might do that as my

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I had a big outing with Dakota, who

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Speaker 1: is in her kind of isolating phase. A lot of

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Speaker 1: She is obsessed with drawing, and that's a great thing.

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Speaker 1: So she's mostly been staying by herself and drawing, but

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Speaker 1: So I made a deal with my friend Carolyn that

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Speaker 1: Why are you going to listen to that. I'm like, honey,

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Speaker 1: little concerned at how much you don't want to do anything. Honey.

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Speaker 1: You know you're like a little pot of gold. Kristin

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Speaker 1: reason that people shouldn't always try meds before they've tried

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Speaker 1: every single thing you've ever done, Like watch every performance,

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Speaker 1: But she is. You are one of them, and I

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I feel you know, it's so funny. I

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Speaker 2: was just talking about this there that night with Bernadette.

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Speaker 2: I was saying, I just feel like and I don't

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Speaker 2: And we talked about it and like it was days

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Speaker 2: And he said it's for Carol Hernette and lady goes,

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Speaker 2: So it really isn't What do they say, Rosie? It

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Speaker 1: He goes, who's that girl? Get me Kristin Chenna with

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Speaker 2: And I think maybe that's part about getting older too,

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm I've aged and I'm okay with it.

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00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it. Every day I think I can't

432
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: feel my feet, that's okay, the bottoms of my feet

433
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: and these heels are killing me.

434
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: What's that?

435
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: Why does my lower back hurt? I've never had that.

436
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: Why can't I see anything?

437
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: Right? You know, just anything anything? How about when you're

438
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: in the shower and you don't know if it's the

439
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: conditioner or the shampoo because you can't read it. Oh

440
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: my gosh.

441
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: Every hotel, I go in, here's me, I get it up.

442
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm like looking at it no, no matter how, and swinny.

443
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all mush, It's all mush. I just I'm

444
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: scared that.

445
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: Our need for perfection, and I include myself in this

446
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: because I'm a perfectionist. Our need perfection, We're going to

447
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: shoot ourselves in the fit for it. And we're seeing

448
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: evidence of that that suicide rates have never been higher,

449
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 2: the drug use for teens, especially with adderall and xanax,

450
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: that all of this stuff has never been higher because

451
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: needing to be perfect. It's almost like when they go

452
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: into college. It's like here, you get your books, you

453
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: get your dorm, and you get your doctor's prescription of

454
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: adderall so you can think and see. I think I

455
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 2: would have fallen prey to that if I were going

456
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: into school. It's just scary. I think it's scary times

457
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: and I want. I love the phone and I love

458
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: the Internet, but it's also scary because immediately to my

459
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: younger friends were like, what's wrong, what I do?

460
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm nothing exactly exactly the immediacy of it. I remember

461
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: Kelly's brother and his wife had the very first walkie

462
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: talkie cell phones. So we'd be eating dinner and she'd

463
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: be out with the kids somewhere and it'd be like, JJ,

464
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm coming home and dream it. But I'm like, who

465
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: would want to live with that? Well, guess what, We're

466
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: all living with it. We're all living in it. And

467
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, the kids are addicted. No, so are

468
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: the parents. Everybody's addicted to the phone.

469
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: We sit down and dinner, we have you know, my

470
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: brother's wife, all of us, my mom, everybody's right, even

471
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: us and my dad' said can we just put on

472
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: phones down for one minute.

473
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: While we eat? It's scary, Leary. It's a whole different

474
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: world than when we grew up.

475
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: You know, even twenty years ago, Rosie, even when your

476
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: show was on, right, I don't even know how you

477
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: found surprise guests.

478
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: And I mean, I guess the internet was.

479
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: I don't know it was.

480
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

481
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: No.

482
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: In fact, AOL had just launched, and I kept telling

483
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: the Water Brothers people, we have to incorporate these and

484
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: they did a study that showed only you know, thirty

485
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: percent of homes had come well in the next two years.

486
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: It was like quadruple that, right, and Uh, they just

487
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: didn't know how to merge the two. And I think

488
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: that's what we're coming to with these smaller delivery platforms,

489
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: with not using the most expensive set pieces that you can. Like,

490
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, even when they redo a show, they make

491
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: it too big, they make it like you know, password, no, no, no.

492
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: It was a tiny little show with Bettie White and

493
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: her husband and it was all inside, quippy, little smart.

494
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: You know.

495
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: It was just a different time and I miss it,

496
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: you know.

497
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, girl, I'm trying to be woke and

498
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: considerate and learn like everybody, like I don't want to

499
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: offend people. Of course, not be patient with me. I

500
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: was told the other day one of my young friends,

501
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm just Josh and you, I said, and they said, no,

502
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: you know, you can't say that anymore.

503
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: I was like, why not?

504
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: Because people named Josh might get.

505
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: Trigger Oh my god, we can't live in this world.

506
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: How can we live in this world?

507
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 3: It's Rosie.

508
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: Here's one that'll that'll let you'll die. So if you

509
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: acquire and I work with priors a lot, I have

510
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: them come up on stage with me and.

511
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Sing with me beautiful, yes, thank you well.

512
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: Soprano alto tarent base is no longer you have to

513
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: say higher voices, wow, lower voices. And I'm like, well,

514
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 2: what if you're a higher voice, but you're an alto,

515
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: so the lower of the high voices, because somebody might

516
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: be triggered because they don't identify as a certain vocal

517
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: type wars.

518
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Well, that's the overly dramatic actors and actresses we're working with,

519
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: I think. But yeah, it's it's interesting.

520
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: And we you and I are, like I said, right

521
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: in that cusp, right, and we just start to do

522
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: our best. And but with cancelations happening every day, I'm

523
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: not so worried about being canceled.

524
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: I just don't want to hurt anybody.

525
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: Honey, I'm smart. My reactions are this. Yeah. But if

526
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: if you do hurt someone and you find out about it,

527
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: I know what you do. You make amends, You apologize,

528
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: you try to make it right. You know, that's what

529
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: you do. And that's that's all you can do, is

530
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: is try your best and be as open hearted and

531
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: let them know that your intent is inclusivity, you know,

532
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: and respect, right, respect, Yeah, because we are both learning,

533
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, we learn as we go on, and and

534
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: that's the best you could do. And you know it's

535
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 1: funny when I'm on the set now, Kristen's probably not

536
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: happening to you, but yet. But like on The l Word,

537
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: I was the oldest actress there, and I feel a

538
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: little like Angela Lansbury did, where all of us would

539
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: gather around Angela Lansbury at tony rehearsals and just try

540
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: to hear her say anything to us. Right, And now

541
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm the Angela Lansbury and all these young variations of

542
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: queer kids coming up to me asking me questions and

543
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, saying do you have any gay kids? I'm

544
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: like no, but I tried. I took them to Broadway.

545
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: I gave them Barbara and Bete Medler at Kristin Shadow.

546
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: With that, none of us came through his cake. Well,

547
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm there, I've gotten now.

548
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: I used to be.

549
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: Called hello cutie, two, Hello lady, and now I'm hello dear.

550
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: Yes, well you're not where I am. What, ma'am do

551
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: you think you're able to climb up the stairs before

552
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: we go to the Delta lounge? Ma'am do you think

553
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: you can climb up the stairs? I was like, yes,

554
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: I can, No, I want to tell you by the

555
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: top of those stairs. I was a little huffing and puffin,

556
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna let that guy know that. You

557
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Of course, yeah, of course.

558
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: Of course no.

559
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: I yeah, I've had people men like on set sex. Here, Kristen,

560
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: here's a box you can sit on. Why you wait, I'm.

561
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: Do I look tired?

562
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's happening. It's happening. Honey. Wait, I'm a

563
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: bunch of years aheadiest sweetheart, and I'm telling you it's

564
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: a interesting But here's the thing. I love getting older.

565
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: I love that I lived so much longer than my

566
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: mom ever had the chance to. I love that I'm

567
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: getting to raise my children. And you know, Blakey's getting

568
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: married and yes, can you believe? And you hear where

569
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: he got engaged in Phantom. He invited me and her

570
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: mother to go to Phantom with him, and then before

571
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: the show started, he got down on one knee and

572
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: I was like overwhelmed with emotion, and I thought, God,

573
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: my mother never lived to see this. You know, my

574
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: mother never saw one of her kids get married. And

575
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: here we are waiting on the wedding. You know, it

576
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: was wild. Kristen I was. You know, the most times

577
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: I ever missed my mother was when my first child

578
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: arrived and was placed in my arms and I was like,

579
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is And then when Blakeie got engaged,

580
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop crying. The whole time during Phantom, I couldn't.

581
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: I just kept thinking, this little boy who didn't talk

582
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: really till he was five, this little boy, this little

583
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: outdoorsy man.

584
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: I remember when you got it. I remember and when

585
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: he came to this world. And I never thought we'd

586
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: be staying here having a conversation about him getting married exactly.

587
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm so happy because you see, just like

588
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: in Still Magnolias and all the things that we've heard,

589
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: the circle goes on, right, And you know, you know,

590
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: I believe in the hereafter, and so I believe that

591
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: your mom and I don't know if she ever shows

592
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: herself to you in certain ways, and I know she's here.

593
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: I know she's watching over that kid, all your kids, right,

594
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: And I've told you this before. I know that your

595
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: mom is proud of you, and I know that she

596
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: watches over her.

597
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: Children, right.

598
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: I do believe that I believe that no no parent

599
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: is perfect. But she does that.

600
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that as I get older, like

601
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: I think more about the afterlife than I did before. Right,

602
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: I never really thought of it. I thought, God, you die,

603
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: and that's it. And it's sad. Carol Burnett at her life.

604
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: She's about to be ninety, right, No, ninety years old,

605
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: Carol Burnett, Right, No, Well it's hard.

606
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: She was just seventy exactly.

607
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: That's what I feel about Jane Fonda too. Jane Fonda is,

608
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, talking about turning seventy. And I went down

609
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: to Atlanta for her party and now it's like her

610
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: eighty sixth birthday or something crazy, and I'm like, how

611
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: did this happen? You know?

612
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: And also tell me if you're experiencing this, Like every

613
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: day I wake up, I get on the internet and

614
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: I say who passed away?

615
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: I do too, because we're of that age. And it

616
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: breaks my heart. Yes, because when the ones who have died,

617
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: let's say in before ten years ago, like Whitney, you know,

618
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: such a sad tragedy. It's a tragedy, right, And when

619
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: someone dies like almost of natural causes, you go, wow.

620
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: Some people only get seventy two, and that's that was

621
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: their limit. That's right. That's what the average is. They say,

622
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: you know that men and.

623
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: That's are going to live each day.

624
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: To quote Lucy, use if it's the last day of

625
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: our life.

626
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: Right right, the time is now. I so agree, honey,

627
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I so agree.

628
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 5: Now.

629
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: Listen, the wedding was called off, but you're with the

630
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: boys still.

631
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: It's so good.

632
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: It's actually better, you know how. It was also when

633
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: I start looking at my wedding as a gig, not

634
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: a gig, but like I've got to fit.

635
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: It in and yeah, no, no, there's no need to

636
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: do that, no, honey, No.

637
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: So we worked out our day and we're definitely gonna

638
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: do it this year because we just you know, we're

639
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: gonna have a big We're gonna just do just our

640
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: family great. We want to keep it very and then

641
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: in New York we're going to have a big little

642
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: shindig for our friends, which includes you.

643
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: Well, good, well, I want you to know that you

644
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: are on Blake Christopher's list for his guests at his wedding,

645
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: just so you know you are. You are, and he

646
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: wanted to invite you and Gloria Estefan and I'm in

647
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: good company exactly. He's like, well, Mom, I've known Kristin

648
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: like my whole life. I'm like, well, that's true, you know.

649
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: And he's like and you know, yeah, and you remember

650
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: I would bring him sometimes and it would just be

651
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: when you were performing or we were doing something together,

652
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: I would bring him. And he always was such a gentleman,

653
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: such a little boy gentleman.

654
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 2: I have a little special I'm not, you know, trying

655
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: to show favoritism, because all of your children are so special, Rosie,

656
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: but I do have a little special place in my

657
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: heart for him.

658
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: How can I not. We've spent the most time together exactly. Yes.

659
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: I remember one time we were together. I don't know

660
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: where we were. We were in a dressing room and

661
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: he was little, I mean young, yeah, and he was

662
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: just looking at me and he said, you're really you're

663
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: really pretty.

664
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

665
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: And my whole life now this is just yes, I'm

666
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: probably gonna get in trouble for this. My whole life,

667
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I've been like, never pretty. I'm always the cute and

668
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 2: a little snuggle muffin and all that, and I love that.

669
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: I love that.

670
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: But when he looked at me and such with such innocence,

671
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: and so I just gave him the biggest time, I

672
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: was like, I love you, Lake. I don't know this thing.

673
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: We've just always had this thing. So I will be

674
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: there with bells on because I've seen him grow up.

675
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: Yes, isn't it amazing? It's amazing to me. My mom

676
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: when when he got engaged, she goes, guess what, She's

677
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: the one that told me about it.

678
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: Really, just now, would you and Josh ever get married

679
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: at a show?

680
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 6: I said, no, whenever show. That's my life. No, exactly,

681
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 6: I understand that too. I so do now tell me

682
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 6: about schmigadoon.

683
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy about that, just like you with O word.

684
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: We did Smigadoon in the height of the pandemic before vaccines, right,

685
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: and I'm a vexers, so I was kind of like, ugh,

686
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: do I want to go to Canada and do this

687
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: And it was really fun even though we were being

688
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: so safe and could hardly We stayed in our.

689
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: Own little pods, right, and I remember that.

690
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we really minded the rules and I'm really glad

691
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: we did. And then we got to come back. I

692
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: don't know, was it not last summer? When did I

693
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: do it? I don't even know anymore? What year are

694
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: we in?

695
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: We are in twenty twenty three.

696
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: So we did this last year and now we're it's

697
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: all edited together and it's now we had season two,

698
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: but they're calling it Schmicago and this is a This

699
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: is a love letter to sixties and seventies musicals and

700
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: composers like Sondheim and Shorts, Wow, all the greats. And

701
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: I think it's totally different because the last one was

702
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: Golden Age era musicals, which I love of course me too, right,

703
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: And that role I played was a takeoff of while

704
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: she was just a bitty, just mean and hateful, I

705
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: had a I don't know, five minute number without any cuts,

706
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: and it was a Potter song like taken off from

707
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: We've Got Trouble of My Friends right Now.

708
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: And now this part.

709
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: What I love that single Paul our writer has done

710
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: is given all of us, people like me, an opportunity

711
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: to play different characters, very different characters from before. So

712
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: he's gathered a little troop like music theater. And I

713
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: think that's if there's not a show for me this,

714
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: then I'm nuts.

715
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: Then there's no reason for you to be in the

716
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. This is your show. It's like a Cinderella

717
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: fit in the slipper. There you go. It fits, and

718
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: you know what else to it?

719
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: If it's Allan's foot and Jane's foot and Dove's foot

720
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: and Cecily and Keagan, who are the heartbeat of our

721
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: show and so darling and funny.

722
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: Fun funny, so funny.

723
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: Oh God, Cecily and Keegan make me laugh so hard,

724
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: it's really hard. And Hi may Is and I mean

725
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: we have and Arianna and I mean there's I'm forgetting people.

726
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: But it's so special, Aaron Toavette. We have such a

727
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: great music theater love letter or what we do.

728
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: And I love it.

729
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: Well, honey, you know what I can't get over how

730
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: wonderful all of the things that you do turn out.

731
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: You have a new book. I've read all your books,

732
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: and you have a new one that's called I'm no Philosopher,

733
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: but I've got thoughts, many meditations for saints, sinners and

734
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: the rest of us. What a great title. Thank you,

735
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: really wonderful. I love it. And you just sat down

736
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: and typed that out on your computer and there it was,

737
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah you know how, Yeah, that's how it works. Magic right, magic.

738
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 6: No.

739
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: During when the first shutdown happened, I had just lost

740
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: one of my very good best friends. I think I

741
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: talked to you about that before, and I didn't know what.

742
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: I was sort of like, I don't know what to

743
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: do with myself. And he called me, said, you want

744
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: to write another book my agent, and I said no,

745
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: because that was like having a book report view all

746
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: the time, right right, And he said, well, think about it,

747
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: like think about what you'd want it to be. So

748
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: I separately I was I'm a big journaler. I think

749
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: you are too, yes, And my journal journal journal, and

750
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: I started journaling heavy again and reading my old ones,

751
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: and I started writing separately, just separately, some stuff down

752
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: like almost another journal, and I thought, hey, this could

753
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: be except write you know, thoughts on love, thoughts on harmony, connection, loss,

754
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: hearsay all of it right, and thoughts on screwing up

755
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: all of it.

756
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: And it kind of was born from my journal entries

757
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: oh great.

758
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: And of course I used humor because that's a big

759
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: part of who I am. But I also allowed I

760
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: always think it was okay to allow people to see

761
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: that not everything is always as it seems. Now you

762
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: know me say you already know that it's not just

763
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: glitter and rainbows and unicorns, all the time and pink.

764
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: And I know that people do think that of you,

765
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: that you're always happy and it's always you know, happy,

766
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: happy Kristen. But you know, like the rest of us,

767
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: you struggle with the challenges that some many of us have,

768
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: including me, you know, anxiety, depression. Those things are real

769
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: and they're serious and they matter.

770
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: They do, and that it's okay to sort of let

771
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: that out of the bag that people see, because I

772
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: want people, especially my younger crowd audience, to know that

773
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: this is part of who I am too, and it's

774
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: okay if you have that. I really wanted to spread

775
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: that message, and so there's some pretty deep general interests

776
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: that I share so that people can see how the

777
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: darkness can happen, right and how I pull myself out

778
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: of it. And of course silly things like you know,

779
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: my mom always says, you know, you got to have

780
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: the patience of job, and you need to read job again.

781
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: So I go back and read Job and Joe bitched

782
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: his head off. Thank you very much, welcome. So we

783
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that kind of thing. But also,

784
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: just like you, I've seen you do this, like people

785
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: that inspire you, like mottos, they've had. There's one that

786
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: I keep going back to, and I list a lot

787
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: of them and why, and then maybe my version of

788
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: that motto, which like, there's one that says that you

789
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: remember Elizabeth Edwards.

790
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Of course yes, since she got cancer and he had

791
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: an affair and it was a bad situation.

792
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: Not a good guy. I don't think sorry for judging him.

793
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: But I judged him for that too. They'll go ahead, Yeah, I.

794
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: Kind of judged him. And then she got a sick

795
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: and passed away. But she said the most beautiful thing,

796
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: Rosie and I have it. I got it in a

797
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: postcard and I framed it. I cut the card off

798
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: and I framed the think right. It says she stood

799
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: in the storm, and when the wind did not blow

800
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: her way, she adjusted her sales. And so for me

801
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 2: kind of every day. And by the way, it doesn't

802
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: have to be bad stuff. You can stand in the

803
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: storm of goodness, right, and whether you're gonna accept it,

804
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do with it, how you're gonna handle it,

805
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: all those things, and when the wind does not blow

806
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: your way, adjust yourself, but still staying with who you are.

807
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: I love that so much.

808
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of there's a lot of just

809
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 2: musings and and also some of the meditations. There's thoughts

810
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: about vertigo sickness, and thoughts about an accident that I

811
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: had and how I pushed it down, pushed it down,

812
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: way down, and how it affected my life and how

813
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: I still have pain from it and anxiety. And it's

814
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: just a okay with me to share those parts of

815
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: who I am and hopefully done with humor as well.

816
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: So that's why I wrote the book, and it just

817
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: it's sort of formed. And so many nights, sleepless nights

818
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: during the shutdown, of course, sleepless nights, because I was thinking, right,

819
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: how are we in this position?

820
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: Yes, how can we be here?

821
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: How can another school shooting happen? Now it's so normal

822
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: that I just go, that's normal, that's sad, it's tragic.

823
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: So I can get really depressed.

824
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: Me too, I know, I know, I know. So it's

825
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: that kind of book.

826
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to get it. I'm going to

827
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: go take the little one to pick out our books

828
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: this weekend. Oh good listen, I love you so much,

829
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: thank you, and thank you people, and I love you. Goodbye,

830
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: I love you bye. Didn't you enjoy that we'll be

831
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: back with some questions from you the listener. Thank you,

832
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: Kristin Shallow, I love you so much. And now we

833
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: hear from you the listener. Let's see what we got

834
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: a couple questions lined up.

835
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 4: Hit it Hi, Rosie, it's Tessa listening in all the

836
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 4: way from Amsterdam, Europe, hopefully the first one from Europe

837
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: to make it on the show.

838
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: Yay.

839
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for making this podcast and being

840
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: such an inspiration. It's really the highlight of my week.

841
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 4: So thank you. I wanted to tell you that, and

842
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 4: it's just so such a feel good moment and so positive.

843
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: What I wanted to ask you is, I think it's

844
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 4: super inspiring that you adopted five children.

845
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, you deserve a medal for that.

846
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 4: And I wanted to know if you always knew that

847
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: you wanted to adopt, or was there also a time

848
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 4: where you were in the process of getting pregnant or

849
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: wanting to having gone through to miscarriages myself. Yeah, I

850
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: was wondering how your journey was with that. So again,

851
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 4: thank you so much for all that you do, and yeah,

852
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 4: keep up the good word.

853
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. All the way from Amsterdam, which

854
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go visit one day for many reasons,

855
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: not just the plentiful marijuana. I can't wait to go

856
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: visit there, And thank you for your question. You know

857
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: I never wanted to give birth, isn't that odd? I

858
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: never did. I mean, I knew that I was gay

859
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: from the time I was about ten years old, and

860
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: I just never thought it was going to be part

861
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: of my journey. And also, I had a teacher named

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Speaker 1: Pat Maravell who became like a mom to me after

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Speaker 1: my mother died. My mother died, I was in fifth grade,

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Speaker 1: and I met this teacher in seventh grade and then

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Speaker 1: she sort of took me under her wing. And she

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Speaker 1: got pregnant and her husband was also a teacher, and

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Speaker 1: they had a baby, and then they had another baby,

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Speaker 1: and I said I would stay home and watch the

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Speaker 1: two year old while they were going to the hospital. Well,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't prepared for what I saw at sixteen years old.

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Speaker 1: It was terrifying to me, to tell you the God's

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Speaker 1: honest truth. But it's not like there was ever a

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Speaker 1: time in my life where I thought I want to

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Speaker 1: get pregnant and this is the time and I want

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Speaker 1: to experience that myself. I know so many of my

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00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: friends went through that, but I never went through it.

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Speaker 1: And I think because of this woman, Pat Maravell, I

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Speaker 1: knew that love made a family, not blood, you know.

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Speaker 1: And she was the first one who ever hugged me,

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00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: the first one who ever said I love you to me.

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Speaker 1: She was really formative and instrumental in my life. She

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Speaker 1: died of breast cancer and very sad. But I never

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Speaker 1: did go through fertility issues or fertility questioning. I just

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Speaker 1: knew because of her and her love for me and

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Speaker 1: how it changed my world that, you know, family is

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Speaker 1: defined by love and that's what makes a family, not

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Speaker 1: necessarily blood. So the five kids, some people say what

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Speaker 1: you said to me, You know you should be lauded

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Speaker 1: for doing that. You know, I am the lucky recipient

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Speaker 1: of another woman's generosity. And these kids are the reason

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Speaker 1: that my whole life has been meaningful. They make me

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Speaker 1: want to be better and do better and show up

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Speaker 1: more and help them along their journey. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like a mutual a mutual gift I think all around.

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Speaker 1: But good luck in your journey to become a parent.

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Speaker 1: I hope whichever way the child you're supposed to raise

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Speaker 1: finds you is the right way, and I hope you

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Speaker 1: get to experience it because it is by far the

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Speaker 1: greatest joy of living, if you ask me. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for that beautiful question, and we got one more. Here

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Speaker 1: we go, Hi, Rosie.

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Speaker 5: I have been a big fan since I was an

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00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 5: elementary schooler watching your show after school and just really

904
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: loving it. And since I have listened to and basically

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00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 5: watched and read everything you've ever done, and I've always

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00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 5: just been interested in what you're up to. So I'm

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00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 5: loving this podcast. And a comment for you is that

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00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 5: I've never never heard you sounding so settled and centered,

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Speaker 5: and I don't know, you just seem to be in

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Speaker 5: a really good space, and I just wanted to say

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Speaker 5: that I'm noticing that, and I think it's really cool

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Speaker 5: to see. And I like that you said on your

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Speaker 5: podcast with Ross that life is a circle and you

914
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Speaker 5: come back to yourself. Are you coming back to yourself?

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Speaker 5: Something that I'm working on.

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Speaker 1: To beautiful, beautiful question. Thank you so much. You know

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Speaker 1: what I think it is too. I think it's age,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I turned sixty something shifted and I'll

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Speaker 1: be sixty two this year, you know. And I was

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00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: born in sixty two. That makes it some special kind

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Speaker 1: of year for the person. But yes, I feel good.

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Speaker 1: You know, I worked very hard on my mental health

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Speaker 1: when I moved out here during the pandemic. I was very,

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Speaker 1: very depressed during the pandemic in New York, in New Jersey,

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00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: in a big house where nobody could come visit, and

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Speaker 1: it was Dakota and myself, and it became too big

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Speaker 1: and everything became too oppressive, and I knew I needed

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Speaker 1: the sun. So I came to LA and in the

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Speaker 1: last two and a half years that I've been here,

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Speaker 1: it's just been me working on me. And I have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful therapist that I've been with for a while,

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Speaker 1: and she's phenomenal and helps me see clearly and maybe

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Speaker 1: reframe some things that I need reframing with. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I thank you for noticing, first of all, and I

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Speaker 1: thank you also for wanting that to be for you too.

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Speaker 1: I want that for everyone. But you can't scream at

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Speaker 1: a flower to bloom, and you can't rush yourself to

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Speaker 1: a place where things settle. And I think you'll find

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Speaker 1: a lot of postmenopausal women, like myself, find that there's

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00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: a wisdom that comes with it there's something that replaces

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Speaker 1: where you were, and that's this new feeling grounded and

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Speaker 1: centered and safe and authentically myself. And I wish that

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Speaker 1: for everyone listening, and I thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: the beautiful question. I hope you enjoyed today's show, and

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Speaker 1: next week we'll be back talking with Daniel Rosen, doctor

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Speaker 1: Daniel Rosen, all about Manjaro weight loss and what one

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Speaker 1: can do to get started on being healthier in the

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Speaker 1: weight area. And it's all connected, you know, mind, body, spirit, health,

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Speaker 1: all of it. So listen for that. It's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, see you next week.