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Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, we're back.
Speaker 3: We're bled, We're brown.
Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, hey Mandra.
Speaker 1: Hey happy bran ambition Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Oh, how have you been since the last time we chatted?
Speaker 1: You know who even knows? I think since we last
Speaker 1: chatted it was we passed the year anniversary of COVID,
Speaker 1: So a lot of feelings have been felt on my side,
Speaker 1: a lot of looking back at old photos of me
Speaker 1: and the baby one year ago kind of like where
Speaker 1: I was, and it's like, oh, yeah, my mom was
Speaker 1: here and I had just started on my you know,
Speaker 1: seeing my psychiatrist and trying to get my mental health
Speaker 1: in check. And I remember it was around this time
Speaker 1: we finally finally got an editor. So hey, shout out
Speaker 1: to Keli for all the help. And yeah, it was
Speaker 1: such a It was a huge turning point for me
Speaker 1: as a as a mom, as a career person, a
Speaker 1: career woman, and just a human being in this world.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I did. I did a lot of like
Speaker 1: reflecting and trying to just be grateful for having come
Speaker 1: out on the other side almost and got my vaccine appointment.
Speaker 1: My husband's got his coming up this week, and we're
Speaker 1: we're cautiously feeling dare I say a little tiny optimistic
Speaker 1: about you know, the year to come?
Speaker 3: That's good, that's good. Honestly, it's just been we're winding down,
Speaker 3: you know, books stuff and also to so if you
Speaker 3: have not voted for me for NAACP Award, hello, hit
Speaker 3: up my socials, especially my Instagram.
Speaker 4: You'll see a picture somewhere. You can vote every day, y'all.
Speaker 4: Even though you know I did it twice? You did?
Speaker 1: I remember two times?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Look at you?
Speaker 3: So you know this is your reminder vote for me
Speaker 3: this today. But today you know I always go down
Speaker 3: like the YouTube rabbit hole. I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: you if you do that, Like when I can't sleep,
Speaker 3: I'm like, what's on YouTube? And lately I've been seeing
Speaker 3: a lot of videos about something called hypergamy. Have you
Speaker 3: heard of hypergamy before?
Speaker 1: I have not. When you originally asked me, I was like,
Speaker 1: say who to what? And I'm the kind of person
Speaker 1: who wants to feel like I know everything, But I
Speaker 1: have to admit, never heard of it, no idea what
Speaker 1: it is? So edgem acat me.
Speaker 3: So. According to the Wikipedia, hypergamy commonly referred to as
Speaker 3: quote unquote marrying up, occasionally referred to as.
Speaker 4: Well, never mind't worry about that part.
Speaker 3: But it's a term used in social science for the
Speaker 3: act or practice of a person marrying a spouse of
Speaker 3: higher cast or social status in themselves. Typically from what
Speaker 3: I've seen, like when I've seen like on like, it's
Speaker 3: been a lot on social media. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: Instagram accounts that talk about hypergamy. Typically when marrying up,
Speaker 3: it's usually like a man with money with more money
Speaker 3: than them, like, you know, looking specifically for man who
Speaker 3: had more money. So I was in this Clubhouse group,
Speaker 3: like when Clubhouse first came out, and they were talking
Speaker 3: about does the person you date or does the man
Speaker 3: you date have to make multiple six figures or something
Speaker 3: to that effect. But I went in there, and you know,
Speaker 3: there were a lot of people who were like shaming
Speaker 3: women who wanted a partner that made, you know, good money,
Speaker 3: And there were a lot of people who were also like, no,
Speaker 3: they don't have to. But I just shared that, like,
Speaker 3: you know, my husband doesn't make more than I do.
Speaker 3: He doesn't make multiple six figures, and you know, we
Speaker 3: are happy and stable. What do you think about that.
Speaker 3: So it is a practice that that I see is
Speaker 3: not new, but it seems like just from like reading
Speaker 3: and watching these YouTube videos, that it's something that's being
Speaker 3: introduced to black and brown women more than ever before.
Speaker 3: And for some reason, so many women who are black
Speaker 3: and brown are being shamed for saying, hey, I would
Speaker 3: like a partner that makes a certain amount of money,
Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, how come I can't say that,
Speaker 3: but our white counterparts, those women can say that. You know,
Speaker 3: like we look at women when they marry up and
Speaker 3: we're like, oh, that's good. But as soon as a
Speaker 3: black woman is like, hey, you know, I'd like a
Speaker 3: man who makes this amount of money because I want
Speaker 3: to be I want to be kept in a certain
Speaker 3: fashion if I want to be kept at all, or
Speaker 3: maybe I make this a certain amount of money and
Speaker 3: I'd like for him to match me, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, so I'm curious. I mean to like, yes,
Speaker 1: you and Superman have a there's a big you know,
Speaker 1: you've talked about the disparity and your income and the
Speaker 1: gap there, but when you originally met Superman, you certainly
Speaker 1: weren't like the budget needs to Superstar, you know, so
Speaker 1: at the time do you remember and you were looking,
Speaker 1: you know, for a partner. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: were looking or not, of Superman just fell into a
Speaker 1: lot because you lucky like that.
Speaker 4: But no, you're right, I was you approach it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, we was neck and neck, okay, because we
Speaker 3: were like we were in our early twenties when I
Speaker 3: first met him, and we'll know he's met me. So
Speaker 3: we were like I was literally just starting my like
Speaker 3: preschool teaching. I honestly, we probably were making around the
Speaker 3: same amount. Who knows, I was making thirty nine thousand,
Speaker 3: maybe he was making a little bit less. But when
Speaker 3: I also too, I wasn't looking for like a permanent partner.
Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, he's cute, he's nice, and
Speaker 3: so we dated a little bit, and then when I
Speaker 3: was thirty when we met again, I mean, he definitely
Speaker 3: was making more than me because I was making it nothing,
Speaker 3: that's what I had just lost my job, but I
Speaker 3: was just like, unemployment is my employer.
Speaker 4: That was the only check a system was getting.
Speaker 3: And then when we started to date, like the last
Speaker 3: and final time, when I was like about thirty four, I.
Speaker 4: Was making a little bit more than him.
Speaker 3: But well, no, that's not even true because at thirty
Speaker 3: four my business was making more, but probably my take
Speaker 3: home we were probably like to your point, around neck
Speaker 3: and Nick maybe slightly more. But then obviously since being
Speaker 3: with him, I've grown tremendously. So to your point, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I met him Tiffany now to where
Speaker 3: he is now, what that would have been. But because
Speaker 3: we kind of grew up together financially, and he provided
Speaker 3: a safe space for me to like flourish and grow.
Speaker 3: So to your point, you're right, it's probably not a
Speaker 3: fair comparison to say like, well, hey, I'm everything's good
Speaker 3: over here. It's like, yeah, but you guys started off
Speaker 3: at the same you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in an ideal world, the thing is
Speaker 1: not everybody has that is not, you know, married to
Speaker 1: someone that they met in their early twenties, like I.
Speaker 1: You know, I met my husband when I was twenty four,
Speaker 1: and we were same as you and Superman, you know, financially,
Speaker 1: you know, on a similar path, and he was finishing
Speaker 1: up his masters and moving up in his you know,
Speaker 1: his government job, and I was just a I was
Speaker 1: a writer, and we both had career ambitions. But for me,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with looking for certain
Speaker 1: attributes and a partner. And is hype is a hypergamy?
Speaker 1: Is that just like heterosexual relationships? Is it only when
Speaker 1: a woman is looking for a man.
Speaker 3: No, it's just like more basically, it's quote unquote leveling up.
Speaker 3: Like there's this, For example, there's a woman, this one
Speaker 3: is a white woman, but her name is what is
Speaker 3: her name? But she's got this this like social media
Speaker 3: channel and Instagram and YouTube channel called school of Affluence.
Speaker 3: Her name is Annabe. That's what it is, Annabe. And
Speaker 3: she's grown tremendously. I think she was out for like
Speaker 3: two years. She's already got like a million here and like,
Speaker 3: but she teaches hypogamy like looking for a partner, she teaches. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she literally her school, her school of Hype of Affluence,
Speaker 3: is to teach you how to attract a man.
Speaker 4: Of means interesting.
Speaker 1: Well, what I was what I was gonna say is
Speaker 1: not everyone is in a position where they are in
Speaker 1: the early twenties and they meet their partner, they don't
Speaker 1: have any Well, in your case, Superman did have a
Speaker 1: child from a previous relationship. But I think it's very different.
Speaker 1: Like for example, when my mom had divorced my dad
Speaker 1: and she had four kids, like under the age of thirteen,
Speaker 1: and she, you know, was I remember, I have such
Speaker 1: fond memories of her starting to date when I was
Speaker 1: like twelve, and she would have these you know, she'd
Speaker 1: go online match dot Com or whatever it was back
Speaker 1: e Harmony and she would, yeah, she would be dating,
Speaker 1: and in her position, I can totally understand how she
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna even
Speaker 1: entertain the idea of dating someone who's not able to
Speaker 1: you know, support himself at the very least, because like,
Speaker 1: I got all these kids. So I do think for
Speaker 1: women in certain positions, you know, you may be it
Speaker 1: just may be reality, like I need an additional income
Speaker 1: and or I, you know, I'm making ends meet as
Speaker 1: a single parent, and additional income would be nice. And
Speaker 1: you don't want to marry someone who has a bunch
Speaker 1: of debt or you know, can't manage their their finances,
Speaker 1: so I I yees. So I feel like context is everything,
Speaker 1: And I completely see why someone would intentionally go out
Speaker 1: into the dating scene knowing that they wanted someone and
Speaker 1: you know, man or woman or whoever wanted someone in
Speaker 1: a certain financial position. I think where I get uncomfortable
Speaker 1: is the idea of or honestly, you know, to each
Speaker 1: their own right. But for me, what makes me more
Speaker 1: uncomfortable is the notion the idea of pursuing someone of
Speaker 1: a certain income or class. I don't know, it seems
Speaker 1: so like weird to say class, but it very much
Speaker 1: exists with the idea that you just need someone to
Speaker 1: take care of you, because, like, I think, what both
Speaker 1: of our stories have shown is that the balance, like
Speaker 1: the seesaw in a relationship, financial seesaw, Like we're doing better,
Speaker 1: you know, financially where you and I are bringing in
Speaker 1: more than our partners now, But like the what if
Speaker 1: the balance shifts over time, and that very much can happen.
Speaker 1: You know, someone can lose a job or or something
Speaker 1: happens to knock that balance out of whack, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, you may need to
Speaker 1: support the other person financially or you know, carry more
Speaker 1: of that financial responsibility. And I think couples should be
Speaker 1: like I don't. I feel like each person should carry
Speaker 1: the weight and responsibility of supporting the household. And and
Speaker 1: I worry about a person going out there expecting to
Speaker 1: find someone to take care of them financially without taking
Speaker 1: care of their own financial house and making sure that
Speaker 1: they have you know, employable skills and savings and have
Speaker 1: their own like financial their own financial footing before they
Speaker 1: go and pursue, you know, someone to just I think
Speaker 1: you said kept earlier, and I hate that for kept woman,
Speaker 1: like someone who's who's just gonna, yeah, gonna just bankroll
Speaker 1: your life. That to me is a little bit more
Speaker 1: challenging to to wrap my head around.
Speaker 3: So I'll share kind of like what I guess from
Speaker 3: like watching some of Anna's videos, it seems like and
Speaker 3: there's a couple, like I said, Anna's white, but it
Speaker 3: strikes me that when she shares her hypergamy thoughts, it's.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, and this is so great. And then there's
Speaker 4: other people.
Speaker 3: There's like a woman named Chrissy or something like that
Speaker 3: that she does hypergamy. There's a couple other black women
Speaker 3: online and it's like you gold digger, you whore you.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. You know, So
Speaker 3: that that kind of had a red because at first
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't get it. I'm because you know,
Speaker 3: I'm fiercely independent like you, Mandy. So I didn't get it,
Speaker 3: but when I saw the difference, I said, well, let
Speaker 3: me put aside my you know, bias about like what
Speaker 3: I want for me and to see like what's really
Speaker 3: going on here. So Banana shares it's not and this
Speaker 3: is her thinking that what she brings to the table
Speaker 3: is beauty, youth, the ability to take care of home children,
Speaker 3: to be a hostess like that. I'm not bringing maybe
Speaker 3: financials to the table, but I'm taking care of you
Speaker 3: in totality, so in exchange for that, you take care
Speaker 3: of me. It just looks different, right, And so you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I agree or disagree. I'm just sharing
Speaker 3: that that's like the that's the thinking and that like
Speaker 3: she does a lot of like like classes or culture.
Speaker 3: Even her YouTube videos of most those are all free.
Speaker 3: But it's like things to where to attract a rich man,
Speaker 3: were rich men?
Speaker 4: Vacation?
Speaker 3: How to sit with class how and so you should
Speaker 3: see the comments. It's just really interesting because you know,
Speaker 3: there's been so much misindependent, you know, like but then
Speaker 3: you read all these comments and it's just like, thank
Speaker 3: you so much, Anna, thank you so much, Anna, Thank
Speaker 3: you so much.
Speaker 1: Anna.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh wow, there's just a lot of
Speaker 3: women who connect with that message. But like I said,
Speaker 3: there are black YouTube accounts that talk about hypergamy, but
Speaker 3: they definitely get attacked more but more so, it seems
Speaker 3: like the black YouTubers to talk about hypergamy. It's less
Speaker 3: about necessarily like the man is going to take care
Speaker 3: of you or whoever, but more so because we all
Speaker 3: know that, you know, black women, I mean, I'm just
Speaker 3: making more than men on average. More so finding someone
Speaker 3: who matches or at least semi surpasses what you're doing.
Speaker 3: So less about being taken care of and more about like,
Speaker 3: well I make six figures, do you? And although not
Speaker 3: to say that there isn't some like you know some
Speaker 3: of that in the and a messaging which is like
Speaker 3: you know, I will take care of the children, I
Speaker 3: will take care of the home.
Speaker 4: It's thinking about like leave it to beaver.
Speaker 3: That's the thinking that like, as the woman and the wife,
Speaker 3: I am here to make sure that your needs are
Speaker 3: taken care of in the bedroom, in the kitchen, with
Speaker 3: the kids.
Speaker 4: I do all of that.
Speaker 3: But in exchange for that, you make sure that we
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about where we're going to sleep,
Speaker 3: what we're gonna eat, and not to say necessarily going
Speaker 3: to be living in the lap of luxury, but that
Speaker 3: I am taking care of I don't have to worry
Speaker 3: about those things. And so it's just really interesting because there's,
Speaker 3: you know, there's some visceral reactions. I guess the reason
Speaker 3: why it struck me, and I'd love to hear you know, Brownavisson,
Speaker 3: your listeners, like your thought process. What to me, what
Speaker 3: bothers me about hypergamy is not the hypergamy itself.
Speaker 4: It's like, girl, sister, do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3: I don't like the double standards for black women and
Speaker 3: brown women compared to like if someone else another race,
Speaker 3: specifically white women, when their hypergama is it's like, oh, yes,
Speaker 3: of course, Sarah went to Princeton so she can find
Speaker 3: her a Princeton man who works.
Speaker 4: For But like Tanisha, look at this hole. She trying
Speaker 4: to come up like you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Like, oh, well, what do you
Speaker 1: think it is? I mean, my I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: for you know, why are women or was that I said?
Speaker 4: Racism? Oh?
Speaker 1: But is the is the But honestly, though, do you
Speaker 1: feel like black and brow women who are into this
Speaker 1: concept of hypergamy are being attacked by other black and
Speaker 1: brown women or is it like white women who are
Speaker 1: attacking them, because I wouldn't be surprised if because I
Speaker 1: don't know this, this like it reminds me of, uh,
Speaker 1: it reminds me of like that old you know, trope
Speaker 1: of an angry black woman who who doesn't want to
Speaker 1: you know, who who is is hard for a black
Speaker 1: man to be with, and that stereotype that black women,
Speaker 1: you know, expect too much and all they care about
Speaker 1: is money and just yeah, having someone to provide for them,
Speaker 1: and like that is kind of what makes me feel
Speaker 1: uncomfortable about it, because you know, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: very fair. I think as a black woman, if you
Speaker 1: are looking for partnership, you should you should feel shameless
Speaker 1: about pursuing a relationship and looking for someone who is
Speaker 1: financially secure or at least on a path toward financial security.
Speaker 1: And if you have additional responsibilities, like if you got kids,
Speaker 1: or you you're a small business owner and you're in
Speaker 1: your income is a little not secure at the time.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you for a second for not wasting
Speaker 1: time with a potential mate who may not be you know,
Speaker 1: on their own path toward financial security or able to
Speaker 1: back you up, you know, while you're while you're building
Speaker 1: your thing. I think that's just a partnership.
Speaker 3: So it's funny because like in the black hYP hypergammy world,
Speaker 3: they call those men who are not able to take
Speaker 3: care of themselves or whatever the dusties. So like, girl,
Speaker 3: do not waste her time with that dusty. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie get a little giggle.
Speaker 1: Out of that. I'm glad I did not know about
Speaker 1: this whole debate.
Speaker 3: I just like, I'm not gonna lie I get into
Speaker 3: so much, like cause I you know, sometimes i have
Speaker 3: a hard time, like going to sleep, and I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll just like like I'll turn on like you know,
Speaker 3: I go to YouTube and YouTube will suggest a video,
Speaker 3: and I remember I was like, what's this like School
Speaker 3: of Affluence? And honestly, the reason why I clicked on
Speaker 3: School of Affluence is because I thought she was teaching
Speaker 3: you like how to.
Speaker 4: Like make money, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I'm watching it, I'm like, wait, I
Speaker 3: don't get it. So a lot of it is about
Speaker 3: women being softer and pinker, even for black women like
Speaker 3: how to be softer, so let the man be a man,
Speaker 3: and like, you know, it doesn't resonate with me because
Speaker 3: I'm just like you know, I'm rock hard, but like
Speaker 3: let the man be a man and you know, and
Speaker 3: like I don't know, like like I said, it's foreign
Speaker 3: to me because well, you know, it's so crazy because
Speaker 3: it's it's not really foreign to me because I'm Nigerian
Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna lie that hypergamy is something that
Speaker 3: is practiced traditionally in my culture. That will one that
Speaker 3: women are expected to be subservient in some ways like
Speaker 3: old school ways to their husbands, but husbands are expected
Speaker 3: to be financial providers, like literally when they don't do
Speaker 3: this much anymore because it's like so like to me,
Speaker 3: it's just crazy. Like but if you if I was
Speaker 3: living in the village to say, like you know, fifty
Speaker 3: years ago and a man wanted to marry me, he
Speaker 3: would have to come to my father ask for my
Speaker 3: hand and he would have to give a dowry basically
Speaker 3: buying you, but.
Speaker 4: You mayn't give.
Speaker 1: I've been to a Nigerian wedding and the part where
Speaker 1: they bring out no the day one I forget if
Speaker 1: it was a two day thing or if they did
Speaker 1: did the Nigerian wedding first and then the American one.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when they had to, I mean she was
Speaker 1: sitting on just a throne of presents, a presus.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: I was like, that is great, that's hypergamy. That was
Speaker 3: like the man saying, look at my wealth. I am
Speaker 3: able to take care of your daughter and any off
Speaker 3: break spring that may come.
Speaker 4: So you see.
Speaker 3: So it's like, even though I'm saying like it's foreign
Speaker 3: to me, it's really not. Because that's why I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna lie. When I brought Durell home, my parents were like,
Speaker 3: I don't understand what's happening. They were like, because Nigeria's
Speaker 3: actually encourage you oftentimes to marry older men, not like
Speaker 3: way older, but like somebody more established. I'll say that.
Speaker 3: You know, so you're twenty and maybe he's thirty. Like
Speaker 3: my father is eleven years older than my mother, so
Speaker 3: he was more established. So it's not actually foreign to me.
Speaker 3: It's just not. But it's so odd because as much
Speaker 3: as that's part of my culture, Like, and my father
Speaker 3: is actually pretty traditional Nigerian man. He really raised us
Speaker 3: to be fiercely independent, and he said, I want that
Speaker 3: when you do marry, if you decide to marry, that
Speaker 3: you are there not because you need someone to financially
Speaker 3: support you, but because this is the person you want
Speaker 3: to be with. So it was odd and how traditional
Speaker 3: he is. But then when it came to his daughters,
Speaker 3: he was like a second thought, you know what, I
Speaker 3: need you guys to have it together because what's not
Speaker 3: gonna happen. And I suspect it's because I didn't have
Speaker 3: any brothers. So traditionally, what you would do is that
Speaker 3: your brothers would be financially responsible for you if your
Speaker 3: father's not here, and then you know, then pass on
Speaker 3: that responsibility to your husband. But there were no brothers,
Speaker 3: so my fathers was like, well, you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: be the brothers for yourself. But yeah, I just thought
Speaker 3: that was interesting because there's this guy named Kevin Samuels.
Speaker 3: I know you're probably like, who girl, If you're in
Speaker 3: a good mood, I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Watch it the heavy sigh.
Speaker 3: Because Kevin Samuels is a quote unquote relationship guru.
Speaker 4: I can't even give him that.
Speaker 3: Basically, he brates black women and it's terrible to watch
Speaker 3: it's gotten very popular. I don't know why. It's almost
Speaker 3: like hate watching. I don't know if that's what people
Speaker 3: are doing. So anyway, women come on to say, hey, Kevin,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know why I haven't found a
Speaker 3: mate yet.
Speaker 4: And it's mostly black women.
Speaker 3: And he basically tells you like he'll ask him one, well,
Speaker 3: what number do you think you are?
Speaker 4: I think I'm a seven? You think you were seven?
Speaker 4: You are four? This is what he's.
Speaker 3: Saying on ID Live, but literally on average twenty thirty
Speaker 3: thousand people watching. And then she's like, well, I know
Speaker 3: I don't think i'm before you are, for you're heavy set, right,
Speaker 3: That's not a question, it's a fact. And then I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, it's so terrible.
Speaker 4: Do you have children?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Who would want that you had a degree? Nobody cares
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 3: It is so bad, And I just oh, I just
Speaker 3: want to hug the women that he talks too crazy
Speaker 3: like that and ask them why are you taking this?
Speaker 3: You know from him? If you're past thirty, too bad
Speaker 3: for you? You have a child, Oh, well, for you, don't
Speaker 3: nobody want you? Like if you were to watched this
Speaker 3: man quote unquote council people. You would think that if
Speaker 3: you are a black woman over the age of thirty,
Speaker 3: god forbid you have a child, that you'll never find
Speaker 3: a man. He calls it a man of high quality
Speaker 3: who's going to want you. And like he said that
Speaker 3: Beyonce's a seven. I'm like, this is how I knew that.
Speaker 4: He just feel himself.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine this raggedy old man because he's old,
Speaker 3: This raggedy old man talking about Beyonce's seven.
Speaker 1: Pay Actually I'm looking at his instead, and I notice
Speaker 1: the only people I know we have in common who
Speaker 1: follow him are black men.
Speaker 4: So is that trouble? They love it? No, he's a
Speaker 4: black man loves me. He's like, oh, y'all, y'all.
Speaker 3: The black man in the comments will say, like, you know, oh,
Speaker 3: he's telling y'all the truth.
Speaker 4: Y'all see y'all.
Speaker 3: Don't want to hit the truth. I'm like, first of all,
Speaker 3: you're a dusty. You have nothing to bring to not
Speaker 3: all obviously all black men, because I love me and
Speaker 3: my black man. My father's black, my husband's black. But
Speaker 3: like the ones that in the comments like yeah, Tellor Taylor,
Speaker 3: I'm like bright, nobody wants you, sir, Yes, and so
Speaker 3: like it just it's it's to me, there's this like
Speaker 3: upswelling of conversation about black women and worth in partnership
Speaker 3: that it's like coming to them to the forefront more
Speaker 3: now than ever because of like this Kevin Samuel's guy,
Speaker 3: because of this hypergamy movement. And I'm just curious to
Speaker 3: see what our audience thinks and feels about it. Like
Speaker 3: you know, I I think this that you get to
Speaker 3: decide for you what it is that you want for you.
Speaker 3: You're not a child. Everyone gets to this side. If
Speaker 3: you want to hit a man makes three hundred thousand
Speaker 3: dollars a year, okay, Sis, if you want to if
Speaker 3: you want a man that's a scientist or whatever, Okay.
Speaker 3: I just feel like it is not for anyone to
Speaker 3: decide what you want for you. And just like yeah,
Speaker 3: I just because I knew what I wanted and I
Speaker 3: made it very clear, and that's what I married, you know,
Speaker 3: like I was like I wanted. I wasn't worried so
Speaker 3: much about the money park because I'm gonna lie, ever
Speaker 3: since i've been little old people have been telling me
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be rich my whole life. So I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm good on that, But I wanted somebody I remember saying,
Speaker 3: who was intrinsically kind, because I know that sometimes I
Speaker 3: can get on somebody's nerves and I wanted someone who
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna snap, crackle and pop when I got on
Speaker 3: their nerves. And Superman his natural tendency is kindness. I
Speaker 3: wanted somebody who's really considerate, which he is. And I
Speaker 3: really wanted something that I like to call a sureness
Speaker 3: of love, like even if we're you know, you know,
Speaker 3: not really feeling each other at this moment of time
Speaker 3: because maybe you know, maybe we had a disagreement or whatever,
Speaker 3: that there's one hundred thousand percent, no matter where I
Speaker 3: go or where I am or what's happened, that I
Speaker 3: know one hundred thousand percent that you love me. And
Speaker 3: I have that with him, and so to me, everything
Speaker 3: else was like cherring on top of the cake. I
Speaker 3: had to get clear with myself what I needed, not
Speaker 3: just wanted, but what I needed in order to feel
Speaker 3: like I, you know, I was okay in marriage and partnership.
Speaker 3: And I think that every woman has a right to
Speaker 3: decide that, well, every person really has a right to
Speaker 3: decide that for themselves.
Speaker 4: But yeah, girl, dig down the Road watch one of
Speaker 4: those videos.
Speaker 3: You're going to cringe, But I think it's important for
Speaker 3: you to see, like how hard it is out here
Speaker 3: for black and brown women, how people basically tell them
Speaker 3: you ain't ish and some of them are starting to
Speaker 3: believe it because of men like Kevin Samuels, because people
Speaker 3: tell them that they don't deserve to level up or
Speaker 3: marry up. And I just think that, like, you know,
Speaker 3: like although it might not be for me, I don't
Speaker 3: know necessarily think that I'm here to judge that you
Speaker 3: know that you shouldn't you shouldn't go for what you want.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is the last moment in
Speaker 1: history when we need to be finding reasons to not
Speaker 1: lift up and instances of black love when we can,
Speaker 1: and not just black love, but couples who are who
Speaker 1: are on the on the same path financially like and
Speaker 1: I think that's why, you know, people like our Rich
Speaker 1: Journey Christina and Iman, and then even even the who's
Speaker 1: the other the the couple the personal finance bloggers is
Speaker 1: a Tay and Tallet. I forget their names, yes, but
Speaker 1: they're amazing, and I feel like just just seeing just
Speaker 1: seeing two you know, people in a relationship. And I
Speaker 1: know these are both heterosexual examples, but any at any
Speaker 1: rate in this in this country is damn hard enough
Speaker 1: to be a single black woman or a black man,
Speaker 1: or a black person in general making it. And I
Speaker 1: think we need to support one another. And there's something
Speaker 1: really beautiful to me about coming together as partners and
Speaker 1: helping each other level up financially and that you know,
Speaker 1: I that those are the stories I like to to hear.
Speaker 1: And I love when we get those questions from our
Speaker 1: listeners who are like, yeah, I mean my husband, we're
Speaker 1: you know, we're working on paying off his debt or
Speaker 1: my dead and we're doing it together. I think that's
Speaker 1: the path to success. So yeah, I mean, you may
Speaker 1: find if you're looking for someone at a certain price
Speaker 1: point that they don't have those you know, those soft
Speaker 1: skills as we say, like how it'd be nice money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the soft skills that you can't really teach it a partner, communication, kindness, empathy,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So I think, but some
Speaker 1: people need to go on their own journey and find
Speaker 1: out what they what they value and why they move value.
Speaker 1: Would and you know, I would let's let's I feel
Speaker 1: like we should, uh, they should do like a revisit
Speaker 1: of people who went on the hypergamy track. Am I saying?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you let's see flow up in five years right now,
Speaker 1: like ninety day fiance after the ninety day.
Speaker 4: Now and honestly, be a listeners.
Speaker 3: If you practice hypergamy and you're super happy that you did,
Speaker 3: you've been married or with the partnership, share with us.
Speaker 3: If you practice hypergammy and you're like, girl, why we
Speaker 3: would like to hear that too. Honestly, I think that
Speaker 3: that would be like, you know, I message us, tweet us,
Speaker 3: you know, at the BA podcast on what's called it Twitter,
Speaker 3: because I'm just really curious about like what how our
Speaker 3: listeners navigate and just what they think about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was it.
Speaker 3: I just thought that was interesting because I was like,
Speaker 3: oh wait, I tell man, I'm telling you Mandy, like,
Speaker 3: don't do when you're in a good mood. Well, I
Speaker 3: don't know if he's doing a bad mood, but Kevin Samuels,
Speaker 3: You're gonna be like what. I Sometimes I want to
Speaker 3: get a comments and be like yeah, no what, But
Speaker 3: I'm like Tiffany.
Speaker 1: Girl, I'm disturbed by the amount of people who follow him,
Speaker 1: But I.
Speaker 3: Mean, what should disturb you even more is that literally
Speaker 3: five times the amount of people that follow him actually
Speaker 3: watch at a time, meaning like I don't know how
Speaker 3: many followers he has, but you'll why.
Speaker 4: And you'll look and you say, wait, how many people
Speaker 4: are alive?
Speaker 3: Because I stumbled across him because on the top sometimes
Speaker 3: they have like suggested lives, and I was like, what's this?
Speaker 4: Why are so many people on here? I was like, wait,
Speaker 4: is this real? Wait what you know?
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say whose name I love?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So she is like a B A yeah, b
Speaker 3: A y. She is school of affluence. And Kevin Samuel's like.
Speaker 1: Don't follow him, but we're gonna go k.
Speaker 4: We're gonna yeah, go lurk, go work. And look what
Speaker 4: he does. Look at this picture. You see this woman
Speaker 4: how they how he has her face? You see that?
Speaker 3: No, like the second the second picture with a black
Speaker 3: woman with the striped shirt. That's the type of shame,
Speaker 3: like he you see what I mean? Like, huh he
Speaker 3: always but lookout he has displayed the white women below,
Speaker 3: the white woman with the with the with the white hair. Yes,
Speaker 3: he Someone was like if you hate black women, just
Speaker 3: say so, Kevin, who hurts you? Because the way he
Speaker 3: goes at black women, the way he drags them down,
Speaker 3: he is he should be ashamed of himself because I
Speaker 3: know your grandmother's black, I know your great great great grandmother,
Speaker 3: and I know your mother black like I just like
Speaker 3: why so? And the fact that people watch and listen
Speaker 3: and decide and say yes, you know like I am.
Speaker 3: You know I deserve to be talked to that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why you guys come to brown ambition.
Speaker 1: We don't talk to you though. This is a safe space,
Speaker 1: all right. Hypergamy, all right, dope, And if you guys
Speaker 1: follow anyone else who has written or talked or I
Speaker 1: don't know, especially I love how you say practice hypergamy
Speaker 1: like it's a religion or something. But then we're way.
Speaker 3: We'd love to feel bad because we don't have any
Speaker 3: Like I don't know any black women hypergamy accounts, but
Speaker 3: I know they exist for yees, send them, like, tag
Speaker 3: me in them because I would love to be able
Speaker 3: to share those.
Speaker 4: Accounts in case you guys are interested in learning more.
Speaker 1: Okay, dope, all right, Well let's take a quick quick
Speaker 1: break and then We're gonna come back and talk about
Speaker 1: those stemmys.
Speaker 4: Simmy.
Speaker 1: Stimmy started hitting bank accounts this weekend. But we'll talk
Speaker 1: about even more than that. Just what is in this
Speaker 1: one point nine trillion dollar gift of a piece of
Speaker 1: legislation that just passed last week? Be right back, all right,
Speaker 1: we are back in black and brown and Stimmy's. I
Speaker 1: finally started saying Stimmy's because like, I'm cool, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Uh, Twitter was all it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: So the bill only passed. What is today's March fifteenth.
Speaker 1: We're recording on Monday. The bill only Biden signed this
Speaker 1: into legislation, like Thursday into law. Sorry, and Thursday, that's
Speaker 1: only a few days ago. But already this weekend he
Speaker 1: got the expedited shipping for those direct deposits. Because already
Speaker 1: this weekend Twitter was a buzz and it looks like
Speaker 1: a lot of people are already getting their fourteen dollars
Speaker 1: checks if they qualified. So if you've got a wind
Speaker 1: if you've got a windfall in your bake account, over
Speaker 1: the hold something, Let me hold something, now, well, what
Speaker 1: do you actually We ran a survey at ally to
Speaker 1: kind of ask folks how they would be spending their
Speaker 1: stimulus and would they be saving it? And this is
Speaker 1: only it's really sad. This is the only third This
Speaker 1: is the third time we have been given or a
Speaker 1: lot of people have been given stimulus checks like this,
Speaker 1: and it seems in just from this little survey that
Speaker 1: we did, still people are holding on to the money,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna save this, maybe we'll pay off debt,
Speaker 1: but saving is probably the biggest plans that people have
Speaker 1: for this extra windfall. Tiff Like, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you say to people, because that's one of the
Speaker 1: questions we're gonna get to y'all's questions about the package,
Speaker 1: But several people asked, you know, what would you say,
Speaker 1: I should do it it? Save it, invest it, use
Speaker 1: it to pay down debt. How do you And it's
Speaker 1: not one hundred million dollars, it's fourteen hundred so there's
Speaker 1: only limited amount of time things you can do with it.
Speaker 1: So what's your take, Tiffany on that question?
Speaker 3: Well, I always think first and foremost you should look
Speaker 3: at like the greatest need right now, right So saving
Speaker 3: would be great, Investing it would be great. But if
Speaker 3: there's no food in the house, you need to buy food,
Speaker 3: If there is a bill that you need to pay
Speaker 3: that it's going to put your family in jeopardy with
Speaker 3: your health and their safety, you want to take care
Speaker 3: of those. So I always say, first and foremost, take
Speaker 3: care of your health and safety expenses. So that's like food, shelter, clothing, water,
Speaker 3: like you know those things. And if there's money left
Speaker 3: over from those things and you might be behind on something,
Speaker 3: then you can take care of something that you might
Speaker 3: be behind on. And then if there's still money left over,
Speaker 3: if you take care of some of the things that
Speaker 3: you're behind on, you know, if you want to start
Speaker 3: putting some aside. I wouldn't be aggressive of paying down debt.
Speaker 3: I'd be more aggressive with savings because now more than ever,
Speaker 3: we saw that like even if you're someone who was,
Speaker 3: like I had one year's worth the savings, well we're
Speaker 3: a year in and if you still didn't have income,
Speaker 3: you could be in some real trouble right now. So
Speaker 3: I would put some toward debt, but i'd be more
Speaker 3: aggressive towards savings. But first and foremost, health and safety
Speaker 3: expenses first and foremost. And if you're someone who was
Speaker 3: fine across the board, maybe you're in a field in
Speaker 3: an industry that didn't see you know nothing, you know,
Speaker 3: the industry actually grew or whatever. You're doing fine, then yes,
Speaker 3: you have your your bills are paid, you're not behind
Speaker 3: your you know you your debt is being properly managed,
Speaker 3: and certainly you can look into investing. If you're in
Speaker 3: that position and you're and your your savings account is
Speaker 3: fully funded, then yes you can look into investing that money.
Speaker 3: I know some people are like, invest right away because
Speaker 3: the market, but I'm like, you know, there's risk with investment,
Speaker 3: with investing, and sure, like you know, things turned out
Speaker 3: great for so many people, but there's just no way
Speaker 3: to know for sure. So you never want to invest
Speaker 3: money that you can't stand to lose.
Speaker 1: Exactly one hundred percent. So here's a question from Instagram.
Speaker 1: I had posted over the weekend, just some facts about
Speaker 1: the relief package, and Instagram listener DJ said, how do
Speaker 1: college students or dependents get the stimulus check? And that's
Speaker 1: one unique thing about this particular stimulus payment is that
Speaker 1: for the first time, you know, in the past, if
Speaker 1: you were a college student or a dependent, you actually
Speaker 1: didn't qualify for your own check. But this most recent bill,
Speaker 1: if you are over age seventeen, but you're still claimed
Speaker 1: as a dependent. That could be a lot of college students.
Speaker 1: You can qualify for your own stimulus check, and as
Speaker 1: far as like how you get the stimulus check, filing
Speaker 1: taxes is the easiest way that I can There's no
Speaker 1: like sign up, you know, I think people are waiting
Speaker 1: to like get some alert or get a piece of
Speaker 1: mail that says, do you want to sign up to
Speaker 1: get your direct payment? The best thing you can do
Speaker 1: is file your taxes at least for twenty nineteen. If
Speaker 1: you've already done it for twenty twenty, great, so that
Speaker 1: the IRS knows where to find you, they know who
Speaker 1: your dependents are, they know how much you earn. Because
Speaker 1: you know, there are income caps on who qualifies for
Speaker 1: the payment. Not everybody qualifies. So yeah, if you're in
Speaker 1: college in DJ, if you're wondering how you can get
Speaker 1: that check or direct payment, yeah, filing your taxes is
Speaker 1: probably the the easiest way to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think, yeah, that's good because I know
Speaker 3: there was a lot of college students that were like,
Speaker 3: that's not fair, like how do I you know, basically,
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, you before it was like you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to go to your parent and ask them to
Speaker 3: they've done their taxes to amend them so you could
Speaker 3: be independent and follow on your own, like sis, mom
Speaker 3: ain't doing that.
Speaker 4: Mom Duke's is. She's not doing that, Like you.
Speaker 3: Are dependent on her. She's going to use that money
Speaker 3: to continue to take care of you. But so it's
Speaker 3: good to know because there are some college students, although
Speaker 3: they are technically dependent on their parents, they you know,
Speaker 3: they really do take care of a lot of their
Speaker 3: own financial responsibilities.
Speaker 4: So that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well here's another question. Let me see, I can't
Speaker 1: really decide what her we'll call her Drea because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of letters in her Instagram handle. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they add up to be Drea. Drea said,
Speaker 1: So should she ask? Should I take the fourteen hundred
Speaker 1: dollars and open up a UGMA account for my child?
Speaker 1: She's eighteen months So UGMA account we actually don't talk
Speaker 1: about very much, but it's the Uniform Gift to Minor
Speaker 1: account and they basically allow parents to save money and
Speaker 1: invest and maintain full custodial control over the account until
Speaker 1: the child is an adult. So it's another way of Yeah,
Speaker 1: the same way we talk about custodial savings accounts and
Speaker 1: a five two nine college plan, it's another option.
Speaker 3: What's the difference between like a UGMA and just a
Speaker 3: regular custodia account?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think it's the difference is how it applies,
Speaker 1: like in terms of taxes or not taxes. When you
Speaker 1: know how you can apply for financial aid and then
Speaker 1: depending on you know, how many how much assets you
Speaker 1: have as a parent, like that'll impact your financial aid
Speaker 1: ability or capability. That could be one way.
Speaker 3: But let me I see that it's a type of
Speaker 3: custodial account. I guess I'm trying to get like a
Speaker 3: like you know, like, I'm like, well, what makes it why?
Speaker 1: Well, the big difference is that you don't have to
Speaker 1: use the UGMA account money for education expenses like a
Speaker 1: five to two nine plan. So with a five two
Speaker 1: nine you actually have to You can invest the money
Speaker 1: the same as a UGMA account, but you have to
Speaker 1: use it for education expenses or else you have to
Speaker 1: face a tax penalty. So with a UGMA account, it
Speaker 1: may just be like a way to save money, but
Speaker 1: to do it without you know, like what if they
Speaker 1: don't go to college, then at least you know you
Speaker 1: can pass on the money too.
Speaker 3: Well, that's why I like custodial accounts, because you don't.
Speaker 3: I've done that for all the like the kids in
Speaker 3: my and like the little ones in my life, like
Speaker 3: my nieces and my nephew. Because I didn't want to
Speaker 3: get a five to two nine plan because I don't
Speaker 3: know what college is fit to be roman he's five,
Speaker 3: who knows what it's.
Speaker 4: Going to look like.
Speaker 3: So I got a custodial account so that way, it's
Speaker 3: not a five twenty nine plan, so it doesn't have to.
Speaker 4: Be used for education.
Speaker 3: And it looks like this is I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is the same, but it's certainly something. I'm going
Speaker 3: to reach out to Angelia and ask girl like, oh,
Speaker 3: we don't have a your gma girl, because apparently the
Speaker 3: earnings are not tax sheltered, but they're taxed at the
Speaker 3: miner's lower kitty tax rate up to a certain amount.
Speaker 3: So I wonder if that's the different, But certainly I
Speaker 3: would love I want to reach out to be like,
Speaker 3: so what because it looks like it's a type of
Speaker 3: custodial But I wonder she might say, girl, you have
Speaker 3: a UGMA. He probably will say that, like, ah, okay,
Speaker 3: that's good because I just always call them custodial accounts,
Speaker 3: so that's just good to note.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I think so too, And we get
Speaker 1: like we've this is the not the first question we've
Speaker 1: gotten recently about a UGMA account. So I feel like
Speaker 1: people are starting to learn more about them, and I
Speaker 1: feel like we have. We could do a whole show
Speaker 1: on how to save for your children in all the
Speaker 1: different ways, because I get I get tangled up in
Speaker 1: it too as a parent. You know, obviously I just
Speaker 1: goofed up and talked about a custodial era for my baby,
Speaker 1: which I can't do because you have to earn an income.
Speaker 1: But then there's, yeah, there's UGMA, and there's custodial savings accounts,
Speaker 1: and that's five two nine. We have a five two
Speaker 1: nine for him. But and I forget which one, you know,
Speaker 1: which one is gonna be less favorable to him when
Speaker 1: it comes to financial aid later on? And you know,
Speaker 1: because the thing is, some of these accounts, like when
Speaker 1: you apply for financial aid, some count as parental assets
Speaker 1: and some count as the child's assets. And either way,
Speaker 1: you know that whole that a really important what is
Speaker 1: it family contribution? That the that the FASTPA kind of
Speaker 1: figures out how much your family can contribute that can
Speaker 1: be impacted by saving an advance for your children. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to table that because I'm going to reach
Speaker 1: out to Helen see if she wants to come on,
Speaker 1: or even Angulie and see or maybe TIF you know
Speaker 1: someone who's like an expert in saving for children. But yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for that question, Drea.
Speaker 3: Yes, so if you should you put your money in there,
Speaker 3: if everything else is straight, like you're not behind you,
Speaker 3: you know that you you your your savings is funded.
Speaker 4: I would consider this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it sounds like crazy sometimes to parents,
Speaker 3: but I would consider have you maxed out or do
Speaker 3: you normally max out your own tax advantage retirement account?
Speaker 3: I actually I would rather parents do that because let
Speaker 3: me tell you something, as a grown person with parents
Speaker 3: thankfully who are still here, the greatest one of the
Speaker 3: greatest gifts you can give to your child is you
Speaker 3: not needing them financially when you get older, because typically
Speaker 3: by that time your child might have your own family,
Speaker 3: and so children have the opportunity to you know, grow up,
Speaker 3: work put aside money, all these other things, right, but
Speaker 3: you you know, you get to a certain age you're
Speaker 3: limited and how much more time you have to set
Speaker 3: aside for yourself. So I always tell parents that, like honestly, like,
Speaker 3: if it's between your retirement account and funding maybe one
Speaker 3: day a college fund, I say, put toward the retirement
Speaker 3: and then yes, definitely I wouldn't put nothing toward a
Speaker 3: college fund. But I feel like there's something about having
Speaker 3: like telling your kid like, no, me and you know.
Speaker 4: Me and your mother are fine. You don't have to worry, like,
Speaker 4: you know, take care of you and your two welcome.
Speaker 1: Hmm. That's my whole stance as a parent is like,
Speaker 1: if I can create financial security for myself, I'm actually
Speaker 1: giving you the benefit of not having a word worry
Speaker 1: about me. Go do your thing, chicken. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: toggle between those two sets of like I've talked about
Speaker 1: that in the show too, just kind of how as
Speaker 1: a parent I'm I'm fully I'm okay with being selfish
Speaker 1: and pouring into myself and my own financial security. And
Speaker 1: you know, obviously I think it's great to set aside
Speaker 1: money for kids, And I mean I want to give
Speaker 1: rio a financial safety net and if he have siblings
Speaker 1: in the future financial security of they're in their own right.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not going to jeopardize
Speaker 1: my happiness now if I can, like, if I can
Speaker 1: afford to, you know, pour into my financial my own
Speaker 1: financial security and my husband so that we can live
Speaker 1: a great and fruitful life and retirement and support our
Speaker 1: kids in some ways, but not. Yeah, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to sacrifice everything because they're you know,
Speaker 1: they have time. Time is the most valuable, yes, financial
Speaker 1: asset at the end of the day. And certainly I
Speaker 1: think having two parents who you know, they're great, But
Speaker 1: I learned from them the value of knowing that mom
Speaker 1: and dad are going to be okay. So they may
Speaker 1: not appreciate that gift. They may really like the idea
Speaker 1: of having like a huge trust fund, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with you, tef on giving them the knowledge that their
Speaker 1: parents are okay. Okay, all right, let's get back to
Speaker 1: these questions, all right. So Vernell Vernell asks on Instagram
Speaker 1: she wanted to know in relation to the child tax credit.
Speaker 1: This was a big, huge, sort of element of this
Speaker 1: most recent relief package was the child tax credit, and
Speaker 1: she wants to know. Does this mean that we're getting
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars a month per child if we qualify. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the child tax credit already existed, right, so if
Speaker 1: you met certain income requirements, you could get two thousand
Speaker 1: dollars per child as a tax credit. With this new
Speaker 1: piece of legislation that Biden just signed into law a
Speaker 1: few days ago, it provides an additional boost financial boost
Speaker 1: in the form of a tax credit for people who
Speaker 1: have children. And let me get my notes up up
Speaker 1: and you can also check our Instagram and put together
Speaker 1: a little story. But basically, you're eligible for three hundred
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars for each child under ages six to seventeen,
Speaker 1: so between the ages of six to seventeen, and then
Speaker 1: you're eligible for three hundred three thousand, six hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for each child under age six. The way that they're
Speaker 1: doing this tax credit instead of you know, usually you
Speaker 1: do your taxes once a year and then if you qualify,
Speaker 1: you get the money and you can pocket it at
Speaker 1: that time. But in order to get people relief now
Speaker 1: parents are struggling, right, they are saying we're actually gonna
Speaker 1: split this into monthly payments starting in July as soon
Speaker 1: as July, and you can get three hundred dollars, yes,
Speaker 1: per child, or sorry, two hundred and fifty dollars per
Speaker 1: child or three hundred dollars per child depending on their ages.
Speaker 1: And yes, that's a monthly payment that will go from
Speaker 1: July through December. And then yeah, so that should start
Speaker 1: in July. And at another question we've gotten several times
Speaker 1: is while, well, how do I make sure that I
Speaker 1: get those funds? And again the answer is file your taxes,
Speaker 1: all your taxes, yep. Because when you fillow your taxes,
Speaker 1: you have to say how many dependents you have, and
Speaker 1: you have to say your income and the ages and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So if you qualify, there are like
Speaker 1: there are income caps, and you definitely, you know, you
Speaker 1: definitely want to set yourself up to like not expect
Speaker 1: you're going to get this great check in July if
Speaker 1: maybe you don't qualify. But well, I'll post these notes
Speaker 1: and I used a bunch of different sources for this,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of great info and recaps of
Speaker 1: the tax credit online that you can find. And at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, though, I would say, definitely
Speaker 1: consult your accountant if you have one to see what
Speaker 1: your particular situation entails.
Speaker 4: No, but this is good. There's a relief, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I'll say this, I mean, at least
Speaker 3: it's something because I do also know that you know,
Speaker 3: they'll be giving you the additional three hundred dollars a
Speaker 3: week for unemployment, so that's you know, that's going to
Speaker 3: be helpful for a lot of people. But still, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm it just doesn't seem like enough.
Speaker 4: I know people are like, well, how much more? Well
Speaker 4: how about you? It's fifteen dollars an hour enough to
Speaker 4: feed you and your family?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's so funny, how like, you know, some
Speaker 3: of the wealthiest of the wealthy want to say, what's
Speaker 3: too much for people? You know, it's just very frustrating
Speaker 3: because you're just like, I'm sorry, I never heard of
Speaker 3: a pandemic outside of like outbreak. Remember that movie with
Speaker 3: a monkey that was like made everybody sick?
Speaker 1: No, do you remember that contagent? There wasn't a monkey.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that was a pig?
Speaker 4: Was that was that contagent?
Speaker 1: Maybe it was similar contation was a pig and it
Speaker 1: was a chef in like some resort.
Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, no, Outbreak I think it was like
Speaker 3: this Little Monkey. I feel like Bruce Willis was in it.
Speaker 3: It seems like a very Bruce Willis's esque movie. But anyway,
Speaker 3: there was like a pandemic. But you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like I think that I just don't understand sometimes why
Speaker 3: lawmakers are behaving like we're not trying to do these handouts.
Speaker 3: It was a world wide pandemic. I mean, like, what
Speaker 3: part of that is so hard to understand? That there's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot more than a few months of
Speaker 3: handholding that people need serious help.
Speaker 4: So I'm curious to see a Listen.
Speaker 1: The problem is that if you are in a certain
Speaker 1: you know, tax bracket as a higher tax bracket, if
Speaker 1: you're at a certain earnings level, it's it's unlikely that
Speaker 1: there's people in your immediate circle who are struggling. But
Speaker 1: listen to me now, like people are desperate out here.
Speaker 1: And I over the weekend, I was talking to our
Speaker 1: cousin who is a high school principal, and she shared
Speaker 1: a story about one of her students, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I have not stopped thinking about this this kid and
Speaker 1: his mom ever since. And you know, and for anyone
Speaker 1: who just who just feels like, oh, okay, I'm doing well.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna, like, you know, keep my head down.
Speaker 1: So grateful I can't imagine people are going through. So
Speaker 1: here's just this one anecdote that she told me. This.
Speaker 1: This boy's fourteen and his mother. They live in a
Speaker 1: homeless shelter they have for the past year, and he
Speaker 1: has two younger siblings who need babysitting during the day.
Speaker 1: His mom has to commute to her job all the
Speaker 1: way in Queen's and they live in the Bronx or
Speaker 1: at this homeless shelter, and because of the homeless shelter rules,
Speaker 1: they all have to get out of the shelter, and
Speaker 1: because trains are not on full service because of the pandemic,
Speaker 1: they have to wake up at three point thirty and
Speaker 1: four am in the morning, and he has to go
Speaker 1: with his with his toddler siblings to the babysitter because
Speaker 1: that's the homeless shelter's rules that he can't be there
Speaker 1: by himself for like safety reasons. So he has to
Speaker 1: drag himself out of bed at four am to go
Speaker 1: with his mom on the bus way out of the
Speaker 1: you know, his long commute to get to the babysitter
Speaker 1: by six and then he makes his way onto school
Speaker 1: and thank goodness, you know, he's able to go into
Speaker 1: school and some kids aren't and he just falls asleep
Speaker 1: during the day because he's so tired and like that.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that to try and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, honestly, if more people knew yes,
Speaker 1: and could have empathy and could hear these stories, you know,
Speaker 1: how can you say that we as a country can't
Speaker 1: be there to support one another. I don't know this woman,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I know her and even this,
Speaker 1: and I know for a fact that even this fourteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars check and the child text credit and all
Speaker 1: that it may not be enough. You know, the system
Speaker 1: does not is not set up to support people in
Speaker 1: her position, and she's doing everything right, you know. So
Speaker 1: that's how I think. It's just it's I feel like,
Speaker 1: in this life, you should just be assigned a buddy
Speaker 1: from birth, just a random person at a different economic
Speaker 1: level than yourself, and y'all should just check in with
Speaker 1: one another, and you know, to just so you're forced
Speaker 1: to know someone who's not from the same financial situation
Speaker 1: that you're in. So you can have a little bit
Speaker 1: of empathy. I think that would solve so many problems.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny that you say that, because I was
Speaker 3: just talking to the superintendent or the assistant superintendent of
Speaker 3: the city where I live, and she was saying, She's like, Tiffany,
Speaker 3: there is going to be such a huge learning gap
Speaker 3: by the time we get back to school. I was like,
Speaker 3: what do you mean, because I'm used to Supergirl being here.
Speaker 3: She has her laptop, she does her work, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: She was like, attendance rate for school, for digital school
Speaker 3: is forty percent.
Speaker 4: I was like, wait, what do they not have laptops?
Speaker 4: Isn't that?
Speaker 3: She was like, it's not that. It's to your point,
Speaker 3: Mandy that she was like, so many of these parents
Speaker 3: have the older child, but they have to go to work,
Speaker 3: and so that child has to babysit their siblings, and
Speaker 3: how do you do that and go to school? She's like,
Speaker 3: so what happens to this crop of kids who you know,
Speaker 3: are not getting the education that they quite honestly deserve
Speaker 3: and need. It was just like when she said that,
Speaker 3: I said, forty percent, what that's the attendance rate? Sixty
Speaker 3: percent of kids are not going to school, and she
Speaker 3: was like also to what she found because they've been
Speaker 3: trying to do, like to try to figure out, like
Speaker 3: what's really happening is that a lot of these kids
Speaker 3: are going to work instead that they're like, you know what,
Speaker 3: it's one thing not to show up for school.
Speaker 4: There's truancy.
Speaker 3: People will come pick you up, but they're like, my
Speaker 3: mom is not making enough, so I'm fifteen and I
Speaker 3: had to go get a job.
Speaker 4: So you're working during the school day, and it's.
Speaker 3: Just I honestly, the ripple effect of what has happened,
Speaker 3: we don't even huh. I don't think that we can conceive.
Speaker 3: I think people think that they're insulated from folks who
Speaker 3: are struggling, but you never are. All you have to
Speaker 3: do is go to New York and just see. You
Speaker 3: can live in a hundred million dollar apartment and come
Speaker 3: downstairs and there's somebody homeless sleeping in front of your apartment.
Speaker 3: You know, you're never fully insulated, like if that's the thinking,
Speaker 3: but it's just yeah, I just well, hopefully I will
Speaker 3: say this. Then when I had that interview with that
Speaker 3: mister Kimmons, Caymans whatever from the White House from the
Speaker 3: Economic something or other council.
Speaker 4: He did state that we.
Speaker 3: Right now are in the rescue component and then the
Speaker 3: next plan is the restore component. So I'm curious to
Speaker 3: see what does restoration look like after after you know,
Speaker 3: they put all these rescue plans in place, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: Just because people are not like I mean, but the
Speaker 1: thing is, people are dying. There's hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: people who have died, but there are there are people
Speaker 1: who are just bleeding just they are. They are dying,
Speaker 1: but they don't show it on the outside in their stories.
Speaker 1: You may not know them, but you have to have
Speaker 1: respect for them and empathy. And I'm proud that we
Speaker 1: got something through. You know it wasn't. Yeah, thank goodness
Speaker 1: that we got some sort of relief through. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys keep reaching out to us. Share you know,
Speaker 1: you can text us now, check the show notes. You
Speaker 1: can text or leave us a voicemail with your questions,
Speaker 1: or if you just want to vent, that's cool too,
Speaker 1: and we'll share that that number again with you guys,
Speaker 1: So check the show notes, or you can hit us
Speaker 1: up on Instagram with your questions. Yeah, and just know
Speaker 1: that even if you just want to vent or just
Speaker 1: tell us your story. You know, I think it's really
Speaker 1: important for people to feel like their stories matter and
Speaker 1: it's and I was just talking to my therapist about that.
Speaker 1: She was like, you know, it's really easy to discount
Speaker 1: your own story because you think other people have it worse,
Speaker 1: or your story isn't, as you know, troubling or whatever.
Speaker 1: But just saying your own story out loud, it matters,
Speaker 1: and your experience matters, and I want to hear it.
Speaker 1: So so reach out to us and share with us
Speaker 1: and and talk to each other because everyone's struggling in
Speaker 1: some regard. And that's what Tiffany said about shame. You know,
Speaker 1: once you say it out loud, it it just has
Speaker 1: a way of eliminating that sense of shame in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, voice voice, what did doctor Green say? That voice
Speaker 3: is the antidote to shame.
Speaker 1: I love it all right, Well, thank you guys for
Speaker 1: your questions. Shall we move on to boost and break?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: And now is time to the warble though break bo
Speaker 2: break break, I never you know, break it down?
Speaker 4: Is you going to boost? Is you going to break?
Speaker 4: How much more can we take?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna be a ray of sunshine or are
Speaker 3: you gonna say, Hey, that ain't mine?
Speaker 4: Oh that was good? Off the rip? Where's my record contract? Hello?
Speaker 1: Tiffany, this Stallion. I like the pony, Tiffany, the.
Speaker 4: Pony Tiffany, my little pony. Yeah, yes, you got a boost.
Speaker 1: A break bandra, I'm gonna I'm gonna boost. I just
Speaker 1: need to give a quick boost for the Grammys last night,
Speaker 1: just because I did sit down and watch it, because
Speaker 1: I'm an old lady now and I watch things with
Speaker 1: commercials and all. But I thought Beyonce made history as
Speaker 1: like the Winnings woman in music, so respect I was
Speaker 1: shocked that she showed up. I was like, protect queen
Speaker 1: at all costs, but she's there, okay. So I thought
Speaker 1: that was amazing. And I thought the the Megan and
Speaker 1: her one for the Savage remix, and I thought that
Speaker 1: their acceptance speech together was like just the black female
Speaker 1: empowerment moment that I needed in my life. So shouts
Speaker 1: out to them. But my real boost was gonna be
Speaker 1: very very different. But uh, Facebook, marketplace, book Marketplace. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to educate myself more. Well. First of all, it
Speaker 1: doesn't take much education when like you got a kid
Speaker 1: in the house and you see how quickly they go
Speaker 1: through clothes and shoes and stuff. And I just started
Speaker 1: to get really frustrated by the amount of like new,
Speaker 1: brand new things that you know, it wasn't the right
Speaker 1: season for them, but then by the time he could
Speaker 1: wear them that he outgrew them. So starting with his
Speaker 1: winter boots, which I found on Facebook Marketplace, I made
Speaker 1: my new mission is to buy used kid stuff for
Speaker 1: my son. And part of me feels like my tug
Speaker 1: like inside, I'm like, you know, my husband and I
Speaker 1: are not quite on the same page. So maybe like
Speaker 1: y'all can help me convince him, because coming from an
Speaker 1: immigrant family, for him, it's like I want to give
Speaker 1: my son the best, Like he spend sixty dollars on
Speaker 1: an Adidas track suit for this child, Like what is
Speaker 1: that sixty two dollars? I saw that charge, and I said, what,
Speaker 1: So just like buying new clothes that he's going to outgrow,
Speaker 1: which led me down this path of learning more about
Speaker 1: just how horrible for like the environment the clothing industry
Speaker 1: is and fast fashion and all of that. So I'm
Speaker 1: trying my best. And the reason I shout out Facebook
Speaker 1: Marketplace is because there is a lot of people selling
Speaker 1: or giving away kids clothing. And I'm not looking at
Speaker 1: toys because I'm just i just can't there's already too many,
Speaker 1: but like kids clothing, so I'm all about it. And
Speaker 1: also I've had a really amazing time, really easy time
Speaker 1: selling things on marketplace now, so a Craigslist who is
Speaker 1: basically how I feel because you could actually see the
Speaker 1: person and it's not as weird as all the emails
Speaker 1: as Craigslist. So Facebook marketplace is my new jam. And
Speaker 1: also I found a second hand store that does kids
Speaker 1: clothing in my area, so I'm going to go check
Speaker 1: them out, and I'm going to I'm gonna try. Wish
Speaker 1: me luck. And if you guys as parents or you know,
Speaker 1: secondhand shoppers or thrifters, like, if you have any tips
Speaker 1: for me on my path towards sustainable fashion from my family,
Speaker 1: let me know, because I'm just, you know, trying to
Speaker 1: do things a little bit better over here.
Speaker 3: No, that's good. I mean, honestly, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I have been buying that's much marketplace stuff. Just Facebook
Speaker 3: ads in general have been getting me. Have you ever
Speaker 3: heard of wonder.
Speaker 1: KEKs wonder who?
Speaker 4: No, there are all these cookies that they just look
Speaker 4: so amazing.
Speaker 3: Every time I came out, was like, you leave me alone,
Speaker 3: you leave me alone wonder kekes, and then I ordered
Speaker 3: them there. I mean like, I'm a chocolate cookie, like
Speaker 3: chocolate chip cookie kind of sewer.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't worth the money. I'll say that.
Speaker 3: They did come quickly, you know. The packaging was like
Speaker 3: fun and funny the way they did they tell you.
Speaker 3: They said like, I know you see us, don't you
Speaker 3: dare put us in your mouth until you put us
Speaker 3: in the oven. So it's really cute. Like the directions
Speaker 3: about how to warm them up. I would say for
Speaker 3: chocolate too cookies, I give it a strong six. But
Speaker 3: so I've been That's what I've been spending my money
Speaker 3: on it. It is.
Speaker 1: You have to be careful though, because like Facebook and Insta,
Speaker 1: they are the shopping mall of today's age, and they
Speaker 1: know they have.
Speaker 4: Been getting me.
Speaker 3: Bought those dag on wonder keys. Now every cookie company
Speaker 3: is like, hey, girl, heard you bought some cookies.
Speaker 4: I'm like, leave me it out. So needless to say,
Speaker 4: I'm not on WW You sold your own cookies, I.
Speaker 3: Know honestly, and I one of the cause they made
Speaker 3: it look so delicious, like I said, if they weren't bad,
Speaker 3: but I was like, oh man, I could have just
Speaker 3: got my my my chocolate butter chalk cookies from Whole Foods.
Speaker 3: Those are like slamming okay, and they're not as expensive
Speaker 3: as Wonder Keys. So I'm gonna do a boost because
Speaker 3: this morning I woke up it was like a really poof.
Speaker 3: It was a lot this weekend. So if you guys
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm gonna be doing like a GEG Good
Speaker 3: with Money summit on April twenty fourth. I'll give you
Speaker 3: more information about that later. But what i'd done. What
Speaker 3: I did was and I forgot to tell Brown Ambition,
Speaker 3: but it's too late now. What I did was I
Speaker 3: said that if you pre ordered the book that you know,
Speaker 3: up until Sunday, then I would give you I would
Speaker 3: if you showed proof. There's like some form you have
Speaker 3: to fill out. If you showed proof, then you got
Speaker 3: a free ticket to the summit. Because the summit's like
Speaker 3: forty bucks, and like the books are like eighteen bucks
Speaker 3: or whatever. I think, like, well they're really twenty four,
Speaker 3: but they're like discounted all all over anyway, So you know,
Speaker 3: my book Giggod with Money doesn't come out until the
Speaker 3: thirtieth and so I didn't, you know, I mean I
Speaker 3: figured that people would be like, oh okay, I wanted
Speaker 3: summer ticket, summit tickets, no girl, And I tell you
Speaker 3: I woke up this morning. I was like, huh, let
Speaker 3: me see where my book because my penguin has been
Speaker 3: saying like, hey, Tiffanyo, let's try to, like, you know,
Speaker 3: like pick up I mean, book sales have done well,
Speaker 3: we sold thousands, but like she's like, you know, let's
Speaker 3: is there anything else you could do.
Speaker 4: To pick up some sales.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what we're doing the summit,
Speaker 3: why don't we give away, you know, doing exchange for
Speaker 3: some books just for three days to give people an option.
Speaker 2: Child.
Speaker 3: I woke up this morning to my book that's not
Speaker 3: even out, so preface it was saying there are currently
Speaker 3: forty eight point five million books for sale on Amazon.
Speaker 4: Forty eight point five million.
Speaker 1: Are you okay?
Speaker 4: I'm ready?
Speaker 1: Tell me I haven't seen this yet.
Speaker 4: Tell me so. My book today was number twenty eight.
Speaker 3: I mean of not finance books, not money, but of
Speaker 3: all books.
Speaker 4: Out of forty eight point five.
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, I literally woke up, it was like, wait,
Speaker 3: what is this real life?
Speaker 4: Like in sale? I was like wait what, And then
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 3: To be pre order, like this is not like you know,
Speaker 3: normally you might see that number. I guess like if
Speaker 3: you're ding, like you know, when it's actually out and
Speaker 3: everybody's read and they're telling their friends and cousins, that
Speaker 3: means y'all trust me so much that you went out
Speaker 3: and you pre ordered Get Good with Money at get
Speaker 3: Goodmoney dot com. You know my my show, I always
Speaker 3: got to do one per show, but no, but honestly,
Speaker 3: it just honestly, I just sat on the couch and,
Speaker 3: like said, just silent prayers of gratitude, like wow, that
Speaker 3: my audience trusts me so much that they flooded to
Speaker 3: go get the book this weekend, you know, because one
Speaker 3: they wanted, like the summit, which is gonna be awesome
Speaker 3: because I pulled so inside the book, I have these
Speaker 3: what I call my budget east the boosters, like things
Speaker 3: that are not my expertise. I don't believe in pretending
Speaker 3: that I know, so I pulled experts in the more
Speaker 3: complicated financial things to walk us through step by step
Speaker 3: how to get those things done. And so I pulled
Speaker 3: some of those women to do a conference with me.
Speaker 3: It's five of my most well they're all amazing, Budge,
Speaker 3: these boosters, but I chose five of them, and that summit,
Speaker 3: like I said, it's coming up in April, but it
Speaker 3: just to just see the flood and to see number
Speaker 3: twenty seven or twenty eight, that's crazy. Like it was
Speaker 3: above Michelle Obama. I mean temporarily, it was above Barack.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, mister President. But I'm just like
Speaker 3: it was it was above you know dr who you know,
Speaker 3: we don't really like that. It was above Robert Kiyosaki,
Speaker 3: like rich Dad before Dad, I know exactly. I mean
Speaker 3: it just was like I mean, like I said, even
Speaker 3: if it was just for a day, child, I'll take it.
Speaker 3: But it just felt really good because you know, Mandy,
Speaker 3: like I, I did not want to be on the
Speaker 3: cover of the book, because not because I didn't want
Speaker 3: to be on the cover, but honestly, I was like,
Speaker 3: no one's gonna buy a book with a black a
Speaker 3: financial book with a black woman on the cover. I mean,
Speaker 3: I knew my audience would because you know, they know me,
Speaker 3: but I wanted the book to reach wider than me,
Speaker 3: and I just told myself, like, no one's gonna buy
Speaker 3: this book. They're gonna be like because I've been in
Speaker 3: rooms before, well I stood up to the mic and
Speaker 3: like I've seen women being like, she's not the speaker
Speaker 3: and she literally mouthing it to each other and they're
Speaker 3: like no, no, she's just checking the mic, and I'm
Speaker 3: like wow. So, you know, like I just felt like,
Speaker 3: you know, people would look at the book and be like,
Speaker 3: she doesn't know. No, I'm not getting it. And so
Speaker 3: I was like, well, maybe we could just do like
Speaker 3: you know whatever on the front cover. And I'm just
Speaker 3: really grateful for like Marnie and Penguin and Heather, my agent,
Speaker 3: for pushing me and saying you need to be on
Speaker 3: this cover. These are white women, you know. They were like, no, Tiffany,
Speaker 3: you need to be on this cover. Like women and
Speaker 3: black women, brown, everyone needs to see you on this cover.
Speaker 3: There needs to be a new face in personal finance,
Speaker 3: not just your face, but to crack open the door
Speaker 3: to say like I want to look on those shelves
Speaker 3: and see women. I want to see latinas, I want
Speaker 3: to see Asian men and women. I want to you know,
Speaker 3: there has to be, you know, like it's enough of
Speaker 3: just one type of voice. And so I'm just really
Speaker 3: grateful that you know, my big old smiling face. My
Speaker 3: sisters were like, y show too much gum, that's all.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine? Sisters? I have to look, I say,
Speaker 4: am I smiling too big? They're like, you are too smiling?
Speaker 4: Too big? I said, you all hate and sisters, but
Speaker 4: that's what, sisters, of.
Speaker 1: What There is no such thing as too much smile?
Speaker 4: Get out of here.
Speaker 1: Your number. You're number fifteen on Movers and Shakers.
Speaker 4: I wonder, man, joy, is that crazy? Yes?
Speaker 1: I know it's not crazy. I'm like, my face hurts,
Speaker 1: and also I'm getting like teary eyed. You're number thirty
Speaker 1: five on bestsellers period.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I just don't even know what that means.
Speaker 1: It's not easy being a bunny is number one, but like.
Speaker 3: Whatever, you know what, I'm not even mad because Easter's
Speaker 3: coming up.
Speaker 4: But you know what, First of all, the fact that
Speaker 4: it's not easy being a buddy is number one.
Speaker 1: That is a second, is this like among the books
Speaker 1: that Mandy typically buys, because these are all children's books,
Speaker 1: like in the top ten whatever whatever, Like your face
Speaker 1: is there?
Speaker 4: Can you imagine?
Speaker 3: And so like yeah, so I just wanted to just
Speaker 3: say like that was the boost that like, man, if
Speaker 3: there ever was a go for a moment, I hope
Speaker 3: that I can be an example like cis go for it.
Speaker 3: You know, you just don't know. I know right now
Speaker 3: there's a lot of tearing down because of meaning like
Speaker 3: pandemic quarantine, that there was a lot of broken Like
Speaker 3: I had a thing and it's broken. This is actually
Speaker 3: the best time to rebuild the thing you actually wanted,
Speaker 3: you know, Like that's why I remember thinking that when
Speaker 3: I lost everything during the last for session, I said, Tiffany,
Speaker 3: you can rebuild the exact same house that you lived
Speaker 3: in before, or you can actually go for the thing
Speaker 3: you actually wanted that you were too afraid to walk
Speaker 3: away from this life for. And I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm going to go for it. I'm going
Speaker 3: to build a life that actually secretly wanted. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not fully living in now, because you know,
Speaker 3: I'd be overworking because you know, just team too much.
Speaker 3: But I am much closer than like you know, I
Speaker 3: am at least living the professional life that I never
Speaker 3: dreamed of. I'm just like realigning my personal life to
Speaker 3: like not hold myself to such not to say high expectation,
Speaker 3: but like you know, not overwork myself. But like ultimately,
Speaker 3: I just never thought stuff like.
Speaker 4: This was possible. And so yeah, just that was my boost,
Speaker 4: like causual, just a little boost. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Now here's the thing you might check when y'all want,
Speaker 3: when y'all listen, this is Monday. I can't promise, well,
Speaker 3: Wednesday gonna look like when you go to see my numbers,
Speaker 3: but at least for this weekend and today, you know
Speaker 3: you put my love on top, baby, I love.
Speaker 1: I hope Oprah's watch.
Speaker 4: Hey, I want to be called Auntie. Hey miss Oprah.
Speaker 1: So you know people at Oprah's favorite things. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: it feels like, yes, March is the book is the
Speaker 1: is the month for new books. I feel like there's
Speaker 1: so many great I've had that pre ordered for a
Speaker 1: long time. I'm sitting here like maybe I should pre
Speaker 1: order some more copies, Like what else can I do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So so happy for you, congrats. I can't wait. So
Speaker 1: the book is the March thirtieth, right, Yeah, March Thurday
Speaker 1: comes up? Okay, So excited for you to Thanks for
Speaker 1: sharing that.
Speaker 4: No, thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, well that is the show, another one for
Speaker 1: the books.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, all right.
Speaker 1: Take care okay friend, if you're vaccinated. It feels like
Speaker 1: the light is at the end of the tunnel soon.
Speaker 1: Just hang in there, y'all,