Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself
Speaker 1: perfectly clear. But you're a guest to my home. You
Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty And I said, no guests,
Speaker 1: you're our presences presents enough.
Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how did you
Speaker 2: dare to surbey me?
Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineker. We're
Speaker 3: here in the studio. What's going on? It's lightly raining,
Speaker 3: well I would say media raining. And I took the
Speaker 3: freeway to get here, so the adrenaline is pulsing through
Speaker 3: my body, just absolutely coursing through me. I'm this is
Speaker 3: not something that I'm used to doing. I would have
Speaker 3: taken side streets, but I obviously didn't. My morning was
Speaker 3: wasted in a bad way, and I left too late,
Speaker 3: and then I stopped at Found Coffee, got a little
Speaker 3: distracted there. You know, I'm just getting distracted all over
Speaker 3: the place, and then I'm putting myself in danger. But
Speaker 3: now we're here, is there's something. What I was going
Speaker 3: to say was yesterday I was a Joanne fabric and
Speaker 3: we all know Joanne is closing down. It was a
Speaker 3: horrible experience. I mean, of course, it's going out of business.
Speaker 3: I hate to see it go, but Joanne, you've been
Speaker 3: sick a long time, and I think it's probably for
Speaker 3: the best. I bought nothing. It was chaos, and now
Speaker 3: I don't know where to turn to for craft supplies.
Speaker 3: But maybe a Michael's. I don't know. I haven't been
Speaker 3: a Michael's for years. Is there anything else I have
Speaker 3: to say? I was just a reminder about the Patreon.
Speaker 3: The Patreon is still fresh and new, So go over
Speaker 3: to patreon dot com slash. I said, no gifts and
Speaker 3: sign up. We're having a nice time over there. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think it's time to get into the podcast. I
Speaker 3: love today's guest. Everybody loves today's guest. It's Oscar Nunez. Oscar,
Speaker 3: welcome to I said, no gifts.
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's nice to be here, am I Are
Speaker 4: we on? All the cameras on?
Speaker 3: The cameras are on. It's this is a whole new
Speaker 3: element within the last maybe six to eight months of
Speaker 3: the podcast, where the video is this whole thing that
Speaker 3: we're really adjusting to. And there are at least three
Speaker 3: cameras in the room, potentially more and so and I've
Speaker 3: been told by our producer on a lease they said,
Speaker 3: look into the camera as the show begins, which is
Speaker 3: such an unnatural feeling.
Speaker 4: You were looking here.
Speaker 3: I was looking right over here, talking to no one,
Speaker 3: talking to the viewer. But it's it's something you adjust to.
Speaker 3: And are you looking at your camera?
Speaker 4: I see it.
Speaker 3: You could say something to this viewer at home.
Speaker 4: Hello from Hollywood everyone. So, so there's no live audience here.
Speaker 3: There's not yet. Okay, not yet. We're building to that.
Speaker 3: I think eventually we'll be in front of a studio
Speaker 3: audience screaming fans. Yeah kind of a price, is right vibe? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't mind just having a giant wheel
Speaker 3: to spin, just because just because it has nothing to
Speaker 3: do with the rest of the show. Nobody wins anything.
Speaker 4: Well, I can attest to the weather. It is raining.
Speaker 4: I too do not like highways. I'd rather take regular streets.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's slippery out.
Speaker 3: There with I'm glad to hear this about highways. Do
Speaker 3: you when you open Google Maps or whatever map application
Speaker 3: you're using, do you turn off highways?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, you're stronger than me.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I have to. Sometimes we have to, Yes, because
Speaker 4: of time. Right, If I have my brothers, I just
Speaker 4: I'd rather take other streets which are just as fast
Speaker 4: in La.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's essentially you're probably going to be going twenty
Speaker 3: five to thirty five miles an hour no matter what
Speaker 3: type of road you're on.
Speaker 4: That's right. I don't want to say alternates because then
Speaker 4: there's too many people and then they'll start taking them.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what, terrible for those neighborhoods where suddenly
Speaker 3: there are fifty cars going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just say supulvida and the four or five.
Speaker 4: Supulvida is just as good as the four or five
Speaker 4: in some sections, right, some stretches. Absolutely, all right, we'll
Speaker 4: be right back after.
Speaker 3: I will say the secret I think to modern living.
Speaker 3: If you want to live in a quiet, not busy
Speaker 3: neighbor neighborhood as you have to live on a dead end.
Speaker 3: And then Google's not going to wrap.
Speaker 4: Yes there, Yes, you're cul de sacs.
Speaker 3: Cul de sacs. Yeah, that cul de sac is kind
Speaker 3: of a rebranding of a dead end. It's a more
Speaker 3: pleasant way to say dead end.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the cult a sac dead end. Some
Speaker 4: implies it just stops. It's just a sac gives you
Speaker 4: a way to get.
Speaker 3: Out, right, you can go around otherwise, but the dead end,
Speaker 3: you're going to be backing up at three at least
Speaker 3: three point. Could de sac is such a fancy term.
Speaker 4: Sounds French to me.
Speaker 3: I know, I wonder what that actually means the French
Speaker 3: on alease? Would you mind looking up what coul de
Speaker 3: sac actually means? I mean, I feel like, uh.
Speaker 4: Thank you on aalise yes something. Yeah, it's French.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting good thing. I have to imagine it's
Speaker 3: been around for a long time, maybe even pre dating cars,
Speaker 3: because it feels like a weird thing to just suddenly
Speaker 3: be part of the normal streets system.
Speaker 4: What came first? Cul de sac? The actual cul a
Speaker 4: sack or the phrase could deck right right?
Speaker 3: My guess is that I.
Speaker 4: Think I'm going with the phrase came first.
Speaker 3: It feels like the phrase must be almost I think
Speaker 3: a metaphor. It probably meant something else.
Speaker 4: Probably yeah, yeah, cold.
Speaker 3: De se coal sounds like end end of sack street
Speaker 3: streets street. Yeah, probably doesn't.
Speaker 5: Mean so it literally means bottom of a sack.
Speaker 4: Oh, oh, the bottom of the sack?
Speaker 3: Wow, how gorgeous? Yeah, okay, god bless who ever decided
Speaker 3: to use that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they took it, and they made it horizontal. They
Speaker 4: took a vertical concept right the bottom of.
Speaker 3: The kind of lay it out there, you get to
Speaker 3: the bottom of the sack.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a You learn something every day, you really do.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is it's informative. I did not know what
Speaker 4: to expect. I've never heard of this show.
Speaker 3: Now, this podcast number one, I was told to be here.
Speaker 3: It's a utility. This is this podcast is to educate
Speaker 3: and inform beyond all else.
Speaker 4: How many years have you been doing this?
Speaker 3: Five years?
Speaker 4: Five years?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 4: Congratulations, thank you very much. That's not nothing.
Speaker 3: Five years today, five years shockingly, yes, five years ago.
Speaker 3: March of twenty twenty, March twelfth, at least within Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: I think was kind of officially lockdown day.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: We had obviously planned in advance that this podcast would
Speaker 3: be launching on March March twelve, and so then suddenly
Speaker 3: everyone on the internet was rightfully talking about a bigger issue.
Speaker 3: And then there was me saying, by the way, I have.
Speaker 4: A podcast, at.
Speaker 3: Which was a confusing feeling. It didn't quite feel right,
Speaker 3: But I had no choice.
Speaker 4: I have no choice.
Speaker 3: You know, that's the business sunk on you. Five years,
Speaker 3: five years there we go sunk on.
Speaker 4: I'm guessing here on your it sounds like Spanish.
Speaker 3: Sonk is five r sunk is five, and I think
Speaker 3: maybe it's just on. Oh yeah, possibly This is four
Speaker 3: years of French and Utah public school, so you can
Speaker 3: count on me to.
Speaker 4: Utah. Yes, yes, what did you teach French?
Speaker 3: I know I learned there or tried to learn. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: petit mercy boku. That's a bad as far as we
Speaker 3: can go. Mat uh poor quis poor?
Speaker 4: Qua?
Speaker 3: Uh? What is welcome? Bi? Venue venue? Then venue a
Speaker 3: la podcast ah? Wait, I wonder what I said no
Speaker 3: gifts would be uh jena uh par No, No, what
Speaker 3: are you saying?
Speaker 4: I don't speak.
Speaker 3: I didn't say gifts, all right, I said no gifts.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just pa gifts all right, right, no gifts,
Speaker 3: no gifts. Of course we're saying gifts, which is simply no.
Speaker 4: No, it's another word.
Speaker 3: Presence looks like a French word.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it looks like when I don't but.
Speaker 3: I don't know that it means that it's a one
Speaker 3: to one. But we got close enough there. Maybe a
Speaker 3: listener is one of our French listeners screaming out now
Speaker 3: and they can reach out later in France. People are
Speaker 3: listening all over the worldwide. It's a weird feeling. Wow,
Speaker 3: So you have people that have no business listening to
Speaker 3: my life, prying, getting on online and then just listening
Speaker 3: to hours of me talking.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes just people do it to relax people, right,
Speaker 4: Some people are interesting their yoga, they're driving. Whatever.
Speaker 3: The idea of me listening to this podcast that's the
Speaker 3: last Have you listened to it? Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: early on I had to listen to a lot of
Speaker 3: it because of like we were getting used to what
Speaker 3: is the show we're editing?
Speaker 4: So you have no choice?
Speaker 3: And I mean, I don't know how you feel about
Speaker 3: hearing your own voice, but I don't like it. It's
Speaker 3: a painful thing. I mean I think you get a
Speaker 3: little used to it.
Speaker 4: You do, eventually you're forced to. I'd rather see myself
Speaker 4: than hear my voice. But I'm getting used to it.
Speaker 4: Did you have notes for yourself? For you hard on yourself?
Speaker 3: Early on? Of course, so hard and I continue. Actually
Speaker 3: it just continued to be.
Speaker 4: It's a growing process.
Speaker 3: But I no longer really listen to the episodes. I say,
Speaker 3: I trust on Elis. They five years, they take it.
Speaker 3: At some point you have to just get have to stop.
Speaker 3: You just have to say it is what it is.
Speaker 3: People will be listening and screaming in France and there's
Speaker 3: nothing I can.
Speaker 4: I've yet to watch The Office. I hear good things.
Speaker 3: How much of the Office have you seen?
Speaker 4: As we were shooting, we watched it every episode that
Speaker 4: came out, and then that's it. And then years later
Speaker 4: I was in Toronto and I had lots of time
Speaker 4: to kill because I was shooting a show, and then
Speaker 4: and I watched I went back and watched the whole thing,
Speaker 4: wow again and I found two episodes that were okay,
Speaker 4: and the rest were actually quite funny and good.
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were gonna say the rest is
Speaker 3: garfage job.
Speaker 4: That's what I watched it because I was in Toronto
Speaker 4: and I think there's three universities in Toronto and they
Speaker 4: have a wonderful Indian and Pakistani population and all that.
Speaker 4: And I kept getting assaulted in a good way by
Speaker 4: all these college bros on the street. Dude, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: these guys are all right. Let me go back and
Speaker 4: watch the show, because I mean, maybe it was still
Speaker 4: crazy about.
Speaker 3: It and right maybe more so now than every.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I went back and watched. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: it holds up.
Speaker 3: Now you catch a glimpse of yourself in the mirror,
Speaker 3: freak out.
Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah, So it was good to do that,
Speaker 4: but I don't I don't think I need to do
Speaker 4: it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot of TV.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 3: How many episodes is that? It's probably I don't know, two's.
Speaker 4: Something like that. Yeah, something like.
Speaker 3: That from a time period when you would make twenty
Speaker 3: four episodes.
Speaker 4: That's right. Season, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: It's kind of in our past. Now you make about
Speaker 3: an episode and a half season, Yeah, and then they
Speaker 3: cancel it.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: So people get about forty minutes of a television.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some shows are canceled before they go on the air.
Speaker 4: But you still do it. You still do it.
Speaker 3: That's a rough feeling. Yeah, make a show and then
Speaker 3: it just gets dumped.
Speaker 4: That's what's happening tax right, offs right, it feels that way.
Speaker 3: Yes. How long have you lived in la Oh?
Speaker 4: Thirty something years?
Speaker 3: Okay, and prior to that you were in New York.
Speaker 4: Yes, I grew up in New Jersey. I was in
Speaker 4: Florida before I came where Florida in Naples, first Miami Lakes,
Speaker 4: then Naples I was with my sister and brother in
Speaker 4: law for about a year something like that.
Speaker 3: Do you spend much time in Florida now?
Speaker 4: No? No, my parents have both passed away. Merchandises available,
Speaker 4: but ever since my mom passed away, my my wife
Speaker 4: is like, well, you don't visit much, so you used
Speaker 4: to go see your mom didn't right, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it feels that way. I still have nephews there and
Speaker 4: my sister, but we don't go back. You know what,
Speaker 4: We're going back like in April. I think we're going
Speaker 4: back this year because Kevin is getting married one of
Speaker 4: my nephews, So we're going to go do that.
Speaker 3: Do they ever visit you here? This is my problem.
Speaker 4: No, No one comes out here. Only cousin Martha and
Speaker 4: Sabino out. Finally, after a thousand years begging, yeah, only
Speaker 4: Samino and cousin Martha. My sister came out when I
Speaker 4: got married. That was I don't know how many years,
Speaker 4: about thirteen years ago with my mom. But no, they
Speaker 4: you know what, they're starting to come out. I shouldn't
Speaker 4: say that. Ian came out. Also, my nephew. So like
Speaker 4: three or four of them have come out.
Speaker 3: And do they stay with you or is it just like, oh,
Speaker 3: we'll meet you for luck.
Speaker 4: We know they stay. Ian has a family, and so
Speaker 4: they stayed at a B and B, which was wonderful
Speaker 4: in Studio City. Cousin Martha stayed with us. We put
Speaker 4: her in a little trailer out in the driveway.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, one of those little poll like airstreams.
Speaker 4: Exactly. We put her in one of those. She loved
Speaker 4: it out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when family comes, I'm happy to have them come,
Speaker 3: but I feel so responsible for their happiness that it
Speaker 3: I think it becomes almost just a detrimental to our
Speaker 3: relationship because I'm trying too hard. They're trying too hard
Speaker 3: to not get in the way, and then it ends
Speaker 3: up being this thing where nobody knows what they want
Speaker 3: to do. I'm saying, I, I can't just sit around
Speaker 3: watching TV with you. That's not what why you came here.
Speaker 3: Please tell me what you want to do. But they say, well,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a bother.
Speaker 4: Newsflash, Bridger, Welcome to planet Earth. That's what happens. That's
Speaker 4: the cycle.
Speaker 3: It's horrible.
Speaker 4: I know, what are you gonna do well.
Speaker 3: I would hope that they've come to town and say, well,
Speaker 3: I want to go to the wax Museum.
Speaker 4: They don't know what they want.
Speaker 3: You have to know what they want. They're just being
Speaker 3: too polite.
Speaker 4: Take them around, show them a good time. They're just
Speaker 4: happy to be They're overwhelmed by Hollywood, by the glitz.
Speaker 4: They know who you have on the show.
Speaker 3: And I think they're underwhelmed. I think they got here
Speaker 3: and you see all of it and you're like, what
Speaker 3: the hell is this?
Speaker 4: Oh, Hollywood's overrated. I feel bad for tourists. I feel
Speaker 4: bad for people who come here and don't know anyone,
Speaker 4: and they come as a family.
Speaker 3: Seems very confused.
Speaker 4: I feel bad for them because I see them and
Speaker 4: wandering around, like you said, Hollywood Boulevard, and you're like,
Speaker 4: you don't need to be here, but it's what they
Speaker 4: what they like, they want to do that you can't
Speaker 4: talk them out of it.
Speaker 3: La is kind of a trap in that way where
Speaker 3: it seems like a vacation day destination. It seems like
Speaker 3: you've seen all these things on TV and the movies. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's so glitzy and glamorous, and then you get here,
Speaker 3: and it's just a lot of pavement and litter.
Speaker 4: It's good if you know someone. Yeah, if you're young,
Speaker 4: it's okay. It's a family that's kind of a little difficult.
Speaker 4: It's not really for kids. No, it's not for kids.
Speaker 4: That's you know, Disneyland Universal. But I've seen parks.
Speaker 3: Who cares and Disneyland is an hour away. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: Universal is fine. So and then what do you do
Speaker 3: with the children. Otherwise, I guess you go to the
Speaker 3: Wax Museum or wander through Griffith Park.
Speaker 4: There's things to do, but you can't if you come
Speaker 4: and you and you say, look, I want to stay
Speaker 4: on Hollywood Boulevard. I want to stay quote unquote right,
Speaker 4: So stay on some sip boulevard. And then if you
Speaker 4: have kids, little kids or whatever, then go to the
Speaker 4: Getty Museum, go to the Skirball.
Speaker 3: Center, Skirball that's a nice one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get out of Hollywood, go to Malibu, to the beach,
Speaker 4: go to the beach, go to those parks, Roy Rogers.
Speaker 4: But now you can't go there.
Speaker 3: It's not the tonal, not ideal. Yeah, so this is
Speaker 3: a Yeah. Whenever my family would come to southern California,
Speaker 3: we really never went through LA because I think my
Speaker 3: parents smartly, smartly understood what would we do with the
Speaker 3: kids here?
Speaker 4: What would you do?
Speaker 3: But then you see families wandering around, Yeah, and they'll
Speaker 3: be like, what is going on?
Speaker 4: You can't rain on their parade? Let them? I mean
Speaker 4: they there's like one block that's okay on Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 4: Is that I don't know, like Man's Chinese. They want
Speaker 4: to do that, They want to see that stuff. It's hidden,
Speaker 4: miss you know.
Speaker 3: That, yes, yes, yeah, but then you see all of
Speaker 3: the costume superheroes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and sadness and the homelessness and stuff. I hate
Speaker 4: seeing people who aren't prepared for that. I'm used to it,
Speaker 4: but if you walk by and you see a homeless person,
Speaker 4: that's traumatic. There's just a lot have little kids. I've
Speaker 4: never seen it before. Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3: It's not great. A lot of good food, though, a
Speaker 3: lot of wonderful food to eat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's good food. There's good restaurants. We have the
Speaker 4: best sushi arguably Japan and San Francisco and US. Yes,
Speaker 4: we have great.
Speaker 3: Mexican food, great Mexican food.
Speaker 4: There's good Italian places. There's good restaurants. The children is
Speaker 4: the thing?
Speaker 3: Where do your kids?
Speaker 4: Don't care? Yeah? How do you you know? You go
Speaker 4: to Malibu, go to the beach, those are from things.
Speaker 3: Take the kids to Burger King.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And if you if you know someone that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know someone who lives here.
Speaker 3: I mean, what did you do with cousin Martha when
Speaker 3: she came? She was in the trailer and did she
Speaker 3: just do her own thing?
Speaker 4: I have a twelve year old daughter. They hang out together.
Speaker 4: Martha loves her trailer. She loves hanging out with me.
Speaker 4: If if she comes, then some days she'll just run
Speaker 4: errands with me, Like if she was here today, she
Speaker 4: would be sitting in the booth. Yes, she does that.
Speaker 4: She comes, and then but then I'll take her to
Speaker 4: the Beverly Hilton or you know too shutters sure, and
Speaker 4: then she likes that, right, right, We take her out
Speaker 4: to dinner and she hangs out with my wife and
Speaker 4: they'll do something. She'll hike, right, So there's plenty for
Speaker 4: her to do.
Speaker 3: What kind of errands do you run?
Speaker 4: You're dry cleaning, right, you're dropping by the manager, Hey, Hi,
Speaker 4: how are you what's going on? Sure? Podcasts adr work? Sure,
Speaker 4: stuff like that, dropping off my daughter at school because
Speaker 4: of Martha would come. She enjoys that driving down Mulholland Boulevard,
Speaker 4: arguably one of the most beautiful drives in the States.
Speaker 3: Lovely. So things like that, do you do any grocery shopping?
Speaker 4: A little bit? Okay? Why what do you ask about?
Speaker 3: I'm just curious about errands. The only errand I really
Speaker 3: run is is grocery shopping. I can't really think of
Speaker 3: other things that I do. I felt like growing up,
Speaker 3: my mom had a billion errands every day that we
Speaker 3: would have to go on. And now I go and
Speaker 3: get a coffee.
Speaker 4: You're done?
Speaker 3: What am I doing?
Speaker 4: What are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I go to the grocery store and sometimes just because
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I have to do something, I should
Speaker 3: leave the house. Are you Are you cruising the grocery
Speaker 3: I'm cruising grocery store.
Speaker 4: That's that's a thing from the seventies and eighties. I'm
Speaker 4: the grocery store cruise all the time. Now everything everything's
Speaker 4: on grinder on your apps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just on. Yeah, I mean every every errand
Speaker 3: has been destroying app.
Speaker 4: There's no cruising.
Speaker 3: There's probably cruising, but it's probably people that most people
Speaker 3: don't want to be cruised by.
Speaker 4: It's the older generation, that's what you're getting out because
Speaker 4: they don't use the French coats. They don't use the grinders. Yes,
Speaker 4: is grinder still a thing?
Speaker 3: Grinder is still a thing. I think it's, you know, thriving.
Speaker 3: They've got an app for every everything. I think there's
Speaker 3: something called Sniffies. I'm not sure what that is, but
Speaker 3: I think that that's a new app, but I'm going
Speaker 3: to the gross.
Speaker 4: Has to do with the factory, with a sense of smell.
Speaker 4: Something's going on there.
Speaker 3: It's kind of taking you to different sense bakeries, skunks,
Speaker 3: that kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Wow, people are really bored and aimless.
Speaker 3: People need something to do.
Speaker 4: They need stuff today.
Speaker 3: They get on the app and they say, take me
Speaker 3: to a small.
Speaker 4: That's what happens when you take people's errands away. They're like,
Speaker 4: what do I do now? Where I haven't smelled in
Speaker 4: a while? What does strawberry smell like?
Speaker 3: I actually have a horrible sense of smell, which is scary.
Speaker 4: I have an okay, when my wife has an incredible
Speaker 4: sense like like a bloodhound.
Speaker 3: Oh, I would love that. I would you important one?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I don't know. Sometimes she like we're just home, and
Speaker 4: she's like, she'll say, what's that smell?
Speaker 3: Uh huh? And you didn't notice it?
Speaker 4: No, I don't know what it is. I'm from New Jersey.
Speaker 4: Smells come, smells go, who cares? But she doesn't say it,
Speaker 4: like in passing, like what's that smell? And you and
Speaker 4: you're like and you sniffing and go, I don't know,
Speaker 4: and then you let it go. She's like, no, no,
Speaker 4: what's that smell? And then you have to go hunting
Speaker 4: for like a maniac in the girl.
Speaker 3: You don't have the skills to hunt it. I don't
Speaker 3: have How are you supposed to find it? She?
Speaker 4: I take her word. She's she's usually right. If I
Speaker 4: go where she's standing and I really I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I smell like a light scent of lemon. I don't
Speaker 4: know what you want me to do about it, or
Speaker 4: what there is to do about it. Why is it
Speaker 4: a thing? But it's a thing that we must track down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my worry is that I'm just letting smells
Speaker 3: come and go while rangers come in the house and
Speaker 3: they're like, what is the smell in that house?
Speaker 4: Welcome to my life? What's that smell, and then you
Speaker 4: have to track it down. It's not just like, oh,
Speaker 4: let it go, no, no, no, Now you have.
Speaker 3: To find it at the bottom of it, because it
Speaker 3: could be something bad. It could be a black mold.
Speaker 4: That's usually what it is. That's her worst fear. It's
Speaker 4: either an animal dead in the walls, or black mold
Speaker 4: or dampness. Dampness is bad to smell. Dampness in your
Speaker 4: house is a very bad thing.
Speaker 3: That is a scary thing.
Speaker 4: First comes the smell, then comes the bill for the smell.
Speaker 4: There's money involved with a smell.
Speaker 3: Some sort of biological damage. I don't know why, and
Speaker 3: you know years of medical help and attention that you're
Speaker 3: gonna need. It's very scary. You got to check out
Speaker 3: for the back.
Speaker 4: It's very good hearing too.
Speaker 3: You've got good hearing, she does. I'm glad that.
Speaker 4: Her hearing is as good as her smell.
Speaker 3: Oh how's your hearing?
Speaker 4: It's okay, But it's not like her. I have good,
Speaker 4: very good hearing, not great smell. I have very good hearing.
Speaker 4: She has better hearing. My daughter has very good hearing too,
Speaker 4: and she has a very good smell. Ursula has very
Speaker 4: good smell sense. Of smell.
Speaker 3: I get nervous about my hearing. Why so, I've gone
Speaker 3: to a lot of loud concerts.
Speaker 4: You're okay, I've done I've done that, I think so. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm at least two years older than you. And if
Speaker 4: I'm okay, then you're okay. I used to go to
Speaker 4: concerts and my ears would ring for two days after all,
Speaker 4: this crazy person.
Speaker 3: I'm finally taking earplugs to concerts. Yeah, okay, I put
Speaker 3: them in my pocket. I try to remember them.
Speaker 4: What was the last concert you were?
Speaker 3: Last concert? Oh? And this is another thing I'm terrified about,
Speaker 3: is my memory? Like, how am I supposed to remember
Speaker 3: the last concert I went to?
Speaker 4: I would have to, Uh, well, you're a young person,
Speaker 4: I think I would like.
Speaker 3: I'm just I have I've always had a bad memory.
Speaker 3: I have a good memory for remembering.
Speaker 4: You seriously don't know the last concert you went.
Speaker 3: Let's see, we're in eight We're I'm currently in March.
Speaker 3: Let's see what would have been the last thing?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It must not have made any impression on me whatsoever,
Speaker 3: which is too bad for the What was one.
Speaker 4: Of the last concerts who went to?
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be I know it was in
Speaker 3: the lodge room in Highland Park. I met friends there,
Speaker 3: We had a good time.
Speaker 4: You were roofied. Remember a thing.
Speaker 3: Oh it's mortifying that I can't remember who it was.
Speaker 3: And now I kind of don't even want to look
Speaker 3: it up because then it kind of do you mind
Speaker 3: if I look it up.
Speaker 4: I'm concerned.
Speaker 3: I'm genuinely concerned right now. I feel like I should
Speaker 3: be able to remember, and then if it's somebody that
Speaker 3: I really like, it's gonna be even more embarrassing.
Speaker 4: Let's see here, there's probably someone you liked because you
Speaker 4: paid money, we think, right, Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: Oh do you know who? One of the last people
Speaker 3: I saw was Jonathan Richmond? Do you know him from
Speaker 3: the Modern Lovers? And it was fantastic. He's been around
Speaker 3: for decades.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what an icon Modern Lovers is.
Speaker 3: A Modern Lovers were you know, seventies bands.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 3: Then it was Jonathan Richmond and the Modern Lovers.
Speaker 4: Jonathan rich was it.
Speaker 3: He's I mean, he's a life force. He's amazing. You
Speaker 3: see him on stage and he's.
Speaker 4: That's so cool.
Speaker 3: Just pure joy.
Speaker 4: Give me some hits.
Speaker 3: What's going on with the mo I bet you've heard
Speaker 3: road Runner.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know Roadrunner.
Speaker 3: That's like I think that's a modern lover's biggest hit. Roadrunner, Yes,
Speaker 3: got the radio incredible song. Yes, I mean he's kind
Speaker 3: of had a very consistent career. And then you see
Speaker 3: is he from a Massachusetts He's from yeah, Boston, I
Speaker 3: think are you from there?
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm from Utah.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: And yet you love the Massachusetts But I love these
Speaker 3: Massachusetts band?
Speaker 4: Well, if you like that sound. Do you like the
Speaker 4: Tom Robinson Band? Do you know who Tom Robins?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not familiar Tom Robinson Band.
Speaker 4: If you like the sound of this fella, the guy
Speaker 4: you just mentioned, Jonathan Richmond. If you like the sound
Speaker 4: of his voice and that kind of rock and roll,
Speaker 4: check out the Tom Robinson.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna write myself a little note. Do you
Speaker 3: ever write yourself a little note?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Remember a couple of six months.
Speaker 4: They have a couple of hits, they have a couple
Speaker 4: of good SKay.
Speaker 3: Were they operating in the seventies?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is the type of music you like?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I like that music.
Speaker 3: Sure, what's your favorite type of music?
Speaker 4: If push came to shove and then shove, shove, shove,
Speaker 4: and you won't stop shoving me. I'm always stop leave
Speaker 4: me alone, all right, whatever? And I have to pick
Speaker 4: like a genre, it would be the first wave of
Speaker 4: English rock.
Speaker 3: Oh, because I'm in the Beatles type.
Speaker 4: Kinks, Beatles, Jethro Tol Yes, I love that. There's nothing
Speaker 4: better than that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I could listen to the Kinks all day.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I turned my daughter onto the Kinks. I love
Speaker 4: that that she she knows the Kinks.
Speaker 3: Now the Waterloo Sunset.
Speaker 4: Yeah sure, I was just listening to that yesterday.
Speaker 3: What a phenomenal song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so stuff like that, Elton John, those guys, Queen.
Speaker 3: I saw a Queen and concert you're kidding? Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: with Freddy Mercury.
Speaker 4: With Freddy Mercury, I think that year he became ill.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I think it was that year. Where
Speaker 4: did you see them at the garden with my friend
Speaker 4: Mike the hippie.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: He was one of the best concerts ever. Wow. He
Speaker 4: was great. They were great. They were great.
Speaker 3: Queen was a band I think I take for granted.
Speaker 3: Oh they're so good because they are They've just kind
Speaker 3: of been in everyone's life forever. And so you never think, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll listen to Queen, but then you listen to him, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course they're fantastic.
Speaker 4: No, they're great, and they paved the way for so
Speaker 4: many you know that kind of operatic.
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine seeing Queen now that's an audit.
Speaker 4: No, they have a guy. He's good, he's got a
Speaker 4: beautiful voice. What's his name, Brian, who's the guy? It's
Speaker 4: a guy from American Idol. Yes, he's tall. He's tall.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say Adam Brodie, but that's not no.
Speaker 3: But Adam. They had a guy before him, but they
Speaker 3: that guy stink.
Speaker 4: They got rid of him because Queen likes a gay son,
Speaker 4: and I think they picked a fella Adam Lambert.
Speaker 3: Lambert.
Speaker 4: He's a very very good singer.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, and he was on American Idol.
Speaker 4: He's good, he's got the goods.
Speaker 3: But it is just one of those things where it's
Speaker 3: almost like, I mean, the singer is always for me
Speaker 3: the band, So if it's not the original singer, it's
Speaker 3: like a clone has appeared.
Speaker 4: Well, he's got big shoes to fill, but they love him,
Speaker 4: they genuinely. Brian May and the boys. They love him,
Speaker 4: they support him, and he's a great singer. He really, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's really He's the only fella that could have taken
Speaker 4: Freddy's place.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, well, I think there's something else we need
Speaker 3: to talk about. Unfortunately, I was really looking forward to
Speaker 3: having you on the podcast. I thought, Oscar will come by,
Speaker 3: well chat, he'll head off and hang out with cousin Martha,
Speaker 3: and so I was a little surprised when you showed
Speaker 3: up to the studio the podcast is called. I said,
Speaker 3: no gifts. I'll just make that very clear. I hope
Speaker 3: there was an email or somebody at least at one
Speaker 3: point mentioned to you you're going on. I said, no gifts,
Speaker 3: but I feel like maybe there was some miscommunication because
Speaker 3: you showed.
Speaker 4: Up with a gift. There was a miscommunication. And it's
Speaker 4: a very special day because.
Speaker 3: Five years for five years sure, and I.
Speaker 4: Think today I officially have become my mother, as you will.
Speaker 4: The gift will oh interesting that the metaphor metamorphosis is complete.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited about this.
Speaker 4: Take a look.
Speaker 3: Then we should open it here on the podcast.
Speaker 4: This is something she would have loved to receive or give.
Speaker 4: Her favorite gift to give or receive. Okay, let's get
Speaker 4: rid of that.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm smelling something. Wow, yeah, interesting, we were talking.
Speaker 4: About it's the best, it's the best. Okay, I'm pulling out.
Speaker 3: Oh two beautiful bars of soap.
Speaker 4: My favorite soaps in the world.
Speaker 3: A Cosmopolitan, waiver Tree in London, Waiver Tree and London
Speaker 3: in Australia. I'm smelling ones in English Rose, which we're
Speaker 3: kind of familiar with that and.
Speaker 4: That's her favorite sent And the other one is it's
Speaker 4: a cause fancy. Yeah, because it's fancy.
Speaker 3: I wonder what that made. It's like, what does a
Speaker 3: cosmos smell like lemonae?
Speaker 4: I think it's more the feeling of night, you know,
Speaker 4: being out on the martini in Manhattan in the evening,
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it says the cosmos sophisticated, stylish, refined
Speaker 3: and oh soo Manhattan there you go. I mean Manhattan.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's known for it smells pleasant,
Speaker 3: smells no rats and urine.
Speaker 4: But the Manhattan's indoor smells indoor, smells of a shindoor place.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, it's.
Speaker 4: A lot going on in Manhattan.
Speaker 3: Wow, how did you find out about these bars of soap?
Speaker 4: I've been buying them for a couple of years now.
Speaker 4: As I said, my mom loves soaps and purses. Okay,
Speaker 4: if you gave her a fancy purse with soaps inside,
Speaker 4: that's but so I've been buying these soaps. It's my
Speaker 4: favorite soap. I don't buy them all the time, but
Speaker 4: I've got a bunch of them underneath the sink, ready
Speaker 4: to go alternate okay by reasonable dove, you know, regular.
Speaker 3: Yes, right to bring this out for parties.
Speaker 4: And we have them in the bathroom shower, oh okay, okay.
Speaker 4: And I love them. I love the I love the marketing.
Speaker 4: I love the way they're they're wrapped gifts, and each
Speaker 4: one is different. There's many different ones. There's different flavors
Speaker 4: and from the from the beach. One is called Havana.
Speaker 4: They have some from India.
Speaker 3: It's where do you buy them?
Speaker 4: At this fancy drug store up in the Beverly Glen
Speaker 4: where I go.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, up there, there's uh yeah a lot of
Speaker 3: those tiny types of shops up there. There are kind
Speaker 3: of very specific types of things. I love an old
Speaker 3: fashioned drug store or pharmacy.
Speaker 4: So this is where I buy them in and the
Speaker 4: pharmacy has wonderful picture frames and books, coffee table books.
Speaker 3: It's almost like a gift.
Speaker 4: Shop, yes slash pharmacy.
Speaker 3: Right, it's not like your typical uh Walgreens or cvs
Speaker 3: where you're being blinded by fluoresta.
Speaker 4: It's not your father's pharmacy.
Speaker 3: Not my father's. Yeah, so your mom loved soap? Was
Speaker 3: did you always have nice oaps around the house or
Speaker 3: was this like a later in life thing where she's like, listen,
Speaker 3: I love a good scent.
Speaker 4: It was a later in life thing. But you just
Speaker 4: reminded me of something of a soap experience. Oh boy,
Speaker 4: I had. And it's one of my daughter's favorite stories
Speaker 4: that I tell. So when I was in my early teens,
Speaker 4: there was a phenomenon and it was soap on a rope.
Speaker 3: Oh sure was a big deal. What is soap on
Speaker 3: a rope? I'm not even I mean, I can obviously
Speaker 3: conceptualize that, but what was the point.
Speaker 4: You can hang it on the on the faucet, oh right, right,
Speaker 4: you can hang it on the foster, hang it around
Speaker 4: your neck, I guess. And it was a big deal.
Speaker 4: And it was like brute brutes had a soap on
Speaker 4: a rope high Karate, oh, some other brands, but I
Speaker 4: remember Brute was a big deal. It was like it
Speaker 4: was it's not women's soap, it's men soap. Yes, it
Speaker 4: was marketed to It was a you know, Esquire magazine
Speaker 4: and Playmore and all that.
Speaker 3: It was that Era is a weapon.
Speaker 4: Yes, Doubles is a weapon. It's cool. It's sophisticated for
Speaker 4: some reason. And I had a soap and a rope.
Speaker 4: I probably got it for my birthday or christ or something.
Speaker 4: And I love my soap on a rope. And I
Speaker 4: was in the bathroom taking a shower and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: soap on a rope. It's so good, all right, this
Speaker 4: is the best shower ever. And I'm like, oh, soap,
Speaker 4: I love you so much. And I'm like, oh soap,
Speaker 4: and I'm like soap hollon because in Spanish, soap is Howon.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so I'm like, oh, soap is how On
Speaker 4: in Spanish, and I'm like start thinking. I'm like hav
Speaker 4: On and I'm like, huh, hav on harmon because ham
Speaker 4: is hamone and soap is how On And I knew better,
Speaker 4: but I'm like, are the grown ups messing with me?
Speaker 4: Like it like ha on, Like they're giving me a hint,
Speaker 4: like soap is edible. It's like half and it's edible.
Speaker 4: So here's a hint. We're not telling you. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll get to the bottom of this knowing damn, well,
Speaker 4: then it's not gonna taste like hamin or whatever. But
Speaker 4: I just got into the temptation. Yeah, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: going to get to the botto of this. And I
Speaker 4: took a huge bite all the soap on the rope
Speaker 4: and feel terrible. It made my mouth ith a lot,
Speaker 4: and I started laughing. I'm like, why did you do that?
Speaker 4: But I was thirteen, your brains not developed. But anyway,
Speaker 4: and I spit it out. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I ruin my soap on a rope. But I did it.
Speaker 4: It was fine. So yeah I did that. Wow.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't think i've ever There was always
Speaker 3: that thread of washing your mouth out with soap as
Speaker 3: a kid, did it and you actually did it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How long did that taste last in your mouth?
Speaker 4: Just like a good five minutes or something. I just
Speaker 4: rinsed it out, but my mouth was itching a lot.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, no, wonder they say that
Speaker 4: it's dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dangerous. I'm glad you didn't swallow it.
Speaker 4: No, but I'm like, it can't be that bad. And
Speaker 4: why do people say, I'm going to wash your mouth.
Speaker 4: There's so many questions. I'm like, I'm just gonna get
Speaker 4: her over with and see what this whole thing's about.
Speaker 3: Kind of the person that all companies are writing like
Speaker 3: not suitable for children on their products because they don't
Speaker 3: who would have.
Speaker 4: Thought never in a thound and they're like, oh, was
Speaker 4: he three? No he was? He was thirteen solid, Yes,
Speaker 4: he should have known better.
Speaker 3: This is somebody who could have push came to shove
Speaker 3: drive a car.
Speaker 4: I was no let bridge it, no bridging.
Speaker 3: This is someone who could be in college. This is
Speaker 3: doogie howser.
Speaker 4: I think, yes, I could have been a doctor. I
Speaker 4: was in the like the seventh Sea. I should have
Speaker 4: known better. I did know better.
Speaker 3: I just did it just because I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe I feel like the real cutoff, And my apologies
Speaker 3: to you is probably third grade I eating soap.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah it was. It was definitely a ridiculous. Even
Speaker 4: in the fourth grade. It was.
Speaker 3: It was a moment we all develop it different.
Speaker 4: It was a moment.
Speaker 3: Listen, we're all learning. My younger sister taught me to
Speaker 3: tie my shoes. We all our brains are just shaping
Speaker 3: in different ways. And for you, eating soap took a
Speaker 3: little bit longer to figure out.
Speaker 4: I took a bite out of the soap. I didn't
Speaker 4: swallow it. I didn't eat it, but I did want
Speaker 4: to taste.
Speaker 3: You're a curious purse.
Speaker 4: I was curious what happens.
Speaker 3: To the soap on the rope. Once the soap is done,
Speaker 3: you get to keep the rope for other uses.
Speaker 4: Now you throw it out. You throw it out, yeah
Speaker 4: before when it gets when they get sad and small
Speaker 4: and whatever, you just throw it out and get another
Speaker 4: so on a rope. It is, you know, it's kind
Speaker 4: of like a toy. It's kind of like a thing.
Speaker 4: Bob Guccioni's pushing it, And.
Speaker 3: Who's Bob gucci He.
Speaker 4: Was the sophisticated editor and the founder of Penthouse Magazine,
Speaker 4: which gave it was the competition of Playboard, right of course,
Speaker 4: but he had a deeper voice. He had a deeper
Speaker 4: voice than uh then uh he then uh.
Speaker 3: He was kind of a weasly car.
Speaker 4: He was weasily and Bob guccin he looked most sophisticated,
Speaker 4: and he was Italian. He was a thicker face and
Speaker 4: thicker eyebrows, and he would ciar cigar and he was
Speaker 4: very reclining and very sophisticating. And but we will cover
Speaker 4: at the Baucher. We can write articles about it. Stuff
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems more soap on the rope than.
Speaker 4: Was very soap on as always Joe Namath. Joe Namath
Speaker 4: gave off of see the playboys.
Speaker 3: Of that era, single guys, single guys who you probably
Speaker 3: wouldn't be comfortable alone in a room with.
Speaker 4: No just going around drinking too much, being stupid, riving cattle.
Speaker 4: They're athletes, yes or whatever?
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, kind of we I feel like we've moved
Speaker 3: past them, and they're soap on the rope. I think
Speaker 3: it's good, Yeah, probably for the best. They wore furs,
Speaker 3: They wore furs, They drank whiskey.
Speaker 4: They drank whiskey, they wore sunglasses. They treated women like
Speaker 4: like like nuts, well at the best, like just objects, sure,
Speaker 4: just like like things, things like things.
Speaker 3: We've moved past. What's his name, Bob GUCCIONI, Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: his name. I can't believe. I actually feel great that
Speaker 3: I was a.
Speaker 4: How could you forget that name? If you're tired off?
Speaker 4: You want something more sophisticated than Playboy magazine Penthouse.
Speaker 3: As I was saying, Bob, Guccioni is like, this cannot
Speaker 3: possibly be the person's name. That's it. It feels like
Speaker 3: real that's his name. Stereotypical Italian name. Guccioni sounds dangerous
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds it sounds a little. Yeah, the Guccionies,
Speaker 4: don't mess don't mess with the Gucciones.
Speaker 3: I imagine you had some Guccionis around you in New Jersey.
Speaker 4: No, not Gucciones. I had a Novembrie. May he rest
Speaker 4: in peace? And uh who else? Well, the memory comes
Speaker 4: to mind because he was a good friend.
Speaker 3: Okay, Novembri, Novembur.
Speaker 4: That's Italian.
Speaker 3: That's like a light Italian name. It's a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think he even speak. It was Italian. He's like,
Speaker 4: oh it's Italian.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, Well, my boyfriend's last name is Smgoula.
Speaker 3: He's half Italian, and I always thought Smagola sounds like
Speaker 3: a stereotype of an Italian.
Speaker 4: That sounds crazy.
Speaker 3: It's a Polish name.
Speaker 4: No wonder, now that makes more sense, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: But like if I were to create an Italian cartoon character,
Speaker 3: I have a name. It Jimmy'smagoo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jamius Magoula.
Speaker 3: But that's his name, and it's Polish.
Speaker 4: She makes no sense.
Speaker 3: His mother's name last name is or made a name
Speaker 3: is Francini, which is more Italian. She's Italian, she's absolutely Italian.
Speaker 4: And his dad's Polish. And your parents.
Speaker 3: White Mutts, Yeah, yeah, yeah, English, German, Scottish.
Speaker 4: Where were you born?
Speaker 3: Salt Lake City?
Speaker 4: All right, you said, yeah, Utah, So okay.
Speaker 3: My lineage is just kind of all over the map.
Speaker 4: It's the same here.
Speaker 3: Where are your parents from?
Speaker 4: My parents are from Cuba, Oh Cuba. Yeah. My grandfathers
Speaker 4: on both sides are from Spain. Oh so they went
Speaker 4: to Cuba.
Speaker 3: But you have a little bit more direct you're able
Speaker 3: to point to I'm just like I guess somewhere in
Speaker 3: the UK, maybe German.
Speaker 4: Well, most people are most people. I'm I'm mostly we
Speaker 4: did the twenty three and me or whatever. I'm mostly
Speaker 4: what we knew, no surprises, the Iberian Peninsula, Spain and Africa.
Speaker 4: That's what Cubas are for the most part, right, So yeah,
Speaker 4: so there was no surprises. A little bit of English,
Speaker 4: a little bit of Jewish, which I love, that's great, Yeah,
Speaker 4: a little dash of something else, yes, and the two
Speaker 4: things I loved English and yeah, and my wife a
Speaker 4: lot of French okay, which we knew, Welsh English okay.
Speaker 4: And Neanderthal. Oh good because French. And she had a
Speaker 4: lot of Neanderthal.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: They sent her a letter and said you have a
Speaker 4: lot of Neanderthal. So that was exciting, insulting. She took
Speaker 4: it that way. The next day, I bought a book
Speaker 4: about Caveman for my daughter, she was like three, and
Speaker 4: I said, learn about your mother and her people. And
Speaker 4: my wife's like, I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 4: I said, you're Neanderthal. I'll be proud.
Speaker 3: Have you been to Cuba? No, No, any interests?
Speaker 4: Probably not. I don't know. I don't think i'll go.
Speaker 3: It's it's one of those places I would love if
Speaker 3: if you could get somewhere quickly, like to just be
Speaker 3: able to step through a portal and experience huh. I
Speaker 3: would love to. I would love to see all of
Speaker 3: the old cars.
Speaker 4: Sure, it's just depressing for me.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm sure there's a lot more baggage for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a It's like North Korea. It's
Speaker 4: one of the most terrible places to go and uh
Speaker 4: and to live right now.
Speaker 3: I just finished a book about North Korea.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 4: Brother, it's a nightmare.
Speaker 3: Oh it's crazy that a place like that still exists
Speaker 3: on Earth. It's a giant prison, It's a giant This
Speaker 3: is a depressing topic, but it is literally.
Speaker 4: A prison brainwashing. The people are traumatized, darving just beyond
Speaker 4: the pale, it's like, and Cuba's not far behind. It's
Speaker 4: pretty messed up there. So what am I gonna do?
Speaker 4: Go there and complaining of thrown in jail? What am
Speaker 4: I gonna do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a Yeah, you go there and then you
Speaker 3: can probably couldn't help yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna you know, keep my mouth shut.
Speaker 3: They feel like giant hostage situations. It's like, if only
Speaker 3: we could, I'd.
Speaker 4: Be calling you up, hello, get me out of here.
Speaker 4: You either one to tell me to go down here.
Speaker 3: One call from jail, one call from Cuba jails to
Speaker 3: me would be a big, terrible call because my phone's
Speaker 3: on Do Not Disturb so the media.
Speaker 4: You're like, I'm in I'm opening another gift from someone
Speaker 4: who I told them not to bring a gift.
Speaker 3: I need it, I need a minute fleas my god.
Speaker 3: But then it's a nice little excuse for me to
Speaker 3: come to Cuba.
Speaker 4: I don't even think we have an embassy there.
Speaker 3: Oh, probably not right. And you can't travel there directly
Speaker 3: from the US.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you have to go through
Speaker 4: Canada or Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's got to be kind of a
Speaker 3: backwards route. It's a lot. I mean, it's hard for
Speaker 3: me to go on vacation just to place that's easy.
Speaker 4: Now we can't even go to Canada or Mexico.
Speaker 3: Oh god, clear war started on the world. A break nightmare.
Speaker 4: I regret voting for him.
Speaker 3: I voted for him four times.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I put in a lot of effort, and I thought
Speaker 3: that the egg prices would go down.
Speaker 4: We're going on vacation and we don't know what to do.
Speaker 4: We started joking, like should we you say we're Canadian?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, we don't need to, And I'm like,
Speaker 4: maybe we do.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, maybe we will say we're Canadian. Tell nobody
Speaker 3: except for I guess it. Uh yeah, yeah, when you're
Speaker 3: headed through the airport. But then get out of there
Speaker 3: and tell people you're from anywhere. Yeah, beautiful country to
Speaker 3: be living.
Speaker 4: I'm from California. We'll say we're from California.
Speaker 3: I mean, pretty soon that'll be enough, and I'll say
Speaker 3: we're from the country of I.
Speaker 4: Wish the Oregon, Washington, California, and New York Connecticut would,
Speaker 4: uh would make their own country.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people do. But good luck
Speaker 3: to all of us.
Speaker 4: Good luck to all of us.
Speaker 3: I mean, it would depend on people like me fighting
Speaker 3: for us, and we'd immediately fail. Yeah, we would be
Speaker 3: It would be an immediate fail. And then we're in
Speaker 3: a North Korea situation.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't. I don't think so. I think
Speaker 4: we have way more leverage than we you think so, Yeah,
Speaker 4: But I think nice people are quiet and that's the problem.
Speaker 4: It takes them a lot to get.
Speaker 3: Riled up, and we police each other.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at Canada. Who would think Canada is
Speaker 4: beside itself? Because this maniac is just just saying as
Speaker 4: he always has. Of course, but he's more vengeful than ever.
Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted him back in office.
Speaker 4: It suits him so well.
Speaker 3: Well, is there anything left to do?
Speaker 4: Well? My question?
Speaker 3: In the shower, you're using a bar soap. I use
Speaker 3: a bar soap, never a shower gel or body wash.
Speaker 4: Not at home, we have shampoos, we have conditioner, we
Speaker 4: have bubble bath, and we have heart soaps, Heart so
Speaker 4: which is when I watch you, They're a classic. They're wonderful. Again.
Speaker 4: I love the packaging. It's almost I don't want to
Speaker 4: open them up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the sort of thing. You almost just want
Speaker 3: this on the bathroom counter. You could do that, show
Speaker 3: people who they're dealing with. Yeah, but then then what's
Speaker 3: the point I want to be along with one of
Speaker 3: these lasts? I mean, as far as the scent, like,
Speaker 3: is it years? Oh?
Speaker 4: If you just leave them somewhere, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 4: you can do that. I recommend just using it.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm.
Speaker 4: If there's anything wrong with being an old lady.
Speaker 3: I've been an old lady for decades at this point.
Speaker 4: You used to soap. Enjoy them, enjoy them?
Speaker 3: O god. Yeah, I have a hard time with a
Speaker 3: bar of soap in the shower.
Speaker 4: Why, what's wrong? You can't you don't know how to
Speaker 4: handle them or yeah, and I like to I can
Speaker 4: tell you this, don't bite into it. Other than that,
Speaker 4: I like to put.
Speaker 3: The stuff onto the sponge or the loofah and then
Speaker 3: use it.
Speaker 4: Are you righty or lefty?
Speaker 3: I'm alrighty.
Speaker 4: So hold the sponge in your left hand and rub
Speaker 4: the soap on the sponge. That's what you're doing to
Speaker 4: put the soap on the sponge.
Speaker 3: Interesting, what what else would you do? I kind of
Speaker 3: always associate you're just doing it, you know, just kind
Speaker 3: of bear rubbing it all of your hands and then
Speaker 3: putting out.
Speaker 4: You could do that too, either way. You could do
Speaker 4: either way.
Speaker 3: But then shooting out of your hand and then you're
Speaker 3: it's on the floor. And I mean, there's a it's
Speaker 3: a huge ordeal for me.
Speaker 4: I know that. But here's the thing things, And I
Speaker 4: don't know if cher said who said this, Chane found
Speaker 4: or a share.
Speaker 3: Let's give share the credit.
Speaker 4: If it were easy, no one would do it right,
Speaker 4: something like that. If it came in a bottle, everyone
Speaker 4: would be in shape, or something like that. In other words, worthwhile,
Speaker 4: things are not easy. Do you want to be a
Speaker 4: dance ballet?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 4: Well, you gotta I tell my god, you have to
Speaker 4: put in the work.
Speaker 3: She's a ballerina.
Speaker 4: No, no, She'll take one class and then she walks
Speaker 4: around telling people I do ballet, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, huh, she's a fraud.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but do this. So the worst thing that can
Speaker 4: happen if it falls on the ground, then just pick
Speaker 4: it up and try again. Slip out of your hands.
Speaker 3: I'll keep that in mind the next time in the shower.
Speaker 3: If it was easy, everybody would be using soap, this
Speaker 3: kind of soap, this kind of soap especially. But then
Speaker 3: this is the other thing that it kind of extends
Speaker 3: to my entire life is once you use a nice thing,
Speaker 3: then once that's gone, every everything will feel worse.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, You're not wrong because I
Speaker 4: have it on good authority, and by good I mean
Speaker 4: none whatsoever that ar least their own uses the soap.
Speaker 4: Kidman uses the soap. Pablo pascal Us put.
Speaker 3: Myself in the same category, uses this soap.
Speaker 4: I base that on nothing, but I'm pretty sure they do.
Speaker 4: So when you're in a shower, you're like, Hey, this
Speaker 4: is happening.
Speaker 3: This is my Charlie's moment, this is my I'm Tom Cruise, right.
Speaker 4: Now, wouldn't be surprised if your Lady Gaga.
Speaker 3: Lady Gaga's absolutely using. He may use that it's slipping
Speaker 3: out of her hand. She's chasing it around the shower.
Speaker 4: Laughs. She laughs if it slips out of her hand,
Speaker 4: and then she'll have someone pick it up for her.
Speaker 4: She has people to shower assistant.
Speaker 3: Yes, as she rings the bell, they run in there
Speaker 3: for her. I hope that that's what she's doing. She's
Speaker 3: earned it. She's put in the work, she's put in
Speaker 3: the time. Somebody should be picking up her soap.
Speaker 4: She has the talent, she drive, she has the gumption,
Speaker 4: the guts, don't be afraid to say it to fail.
Speaker 4: She says she she got her started in New York City.
Speaker 4: I have no way. I have no reason to doubt her.
Speaker 4: I don't know a lot about her early trajectory, but
Speaker 4: it sounds to me a lot like Madonna's.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit except for Madonna didn't go to NYU.
Speaker 4: No, Madonna went to school in Michigan.
Speaker 3: Michigan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, see, I thought she was from Jersey. I know
Speaker 4: she ended up. She says. I was in New York
Speaker 4: City and I had a boom box, and I would
Speaker 4: play it in places, and then eventually she was very
Speaker 4: smart and would make friends with DJ's at Studio fifty
Speaker 4: four and Limelight and they'd give her they car out
Speaker 4: five minutes and she would like play her music and
Speaker 4: dance and people are like, it's Madonna, here's Madonna. That's how.
Speaker 4: And Bette Miller started like that too. Interest I wonder
Speaker 4: if started like that too.
Speaker 3: I think there's here some There's gotta be a little
Speaker 3: bit of that.
Speaker 4: She says.
Speaker 3: She. I mean, whether she did or not, she probably
Speaker 3: should keep saying.
Speaker 4: It's a good story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody wants to hear how I went to tish
Speaker 3: and then had some songwriting.
Speaker 4: Or tiktokd it in. I justicked the thing on TikTok.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's everybody from now on. That's the way.
Speaker 4: That's what they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get on TikTok.
Speaker 4: That's how they do it.
Speaker 3: A minute long song.
Speaker 4: They don't have to hit the pavement.
Speaker 3: You don't simply don't have to. You don't have to
Speaker 3: run errands even within your career.
Speaker 4: You don't have to go to the Madonna route, the
Speaker 4: Grace Jones route.
Speaker 3: You don't have that grit. Bette Midler, no if there
Speaker 3: are very smooth corners on these stones.
Speaker 4: Talking about Madonna, it's like Vaudeville. It's like we're talking about.
Speaker 3: Voas, a completely different era that will never happen again.
Speaker 4: They're like, what she was on the sidewalk with a boombox?
Speaker 4: Or is she homeless? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Truly No, I mean the grid would have to go down.
Speaker 3: The grid would have to go down for us to
Speaker 3: get at the next Madonna.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I'm sure Madonna's on TikTok now, probably
Speaker 3: hating it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if she cares that much about it
Speaker 4: to hate. I don't think she has time for that.
Speaker 3: But Madonna's one of these people that I think feels
Speaker 3: like she always still has to be doing the thing.
Speaker 3: Don't you think She's probably like, well, I guess that
Speaker 3: I'll do this one now. I think she has moments
Speaker 3: I want to be relevant.
Speaker 4: Yes, she has take vacations. She counts her money, and
Speaker 4: then she's like, wait a second, what's going on? Why
Speaker 4: am I in venice? I want to do something I
Speaker 4: feel right right, But she has enough money to kick
Speaker 4: back and give a damn about anything.
Speaker 3: For the last forty years, she's probably been able to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 4: Why does she care? If she's she's got the.
Speaker 3: Drive, she's got the talent. Still, she's got the gumpy.
Speaker 4: She still has the she has all those things.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I think there are diminishing returns as a pop star,
Speaker 3: but you try your hardest.
Speaker 4: Share still wants to be relevant. She came out at
Speaker 4: the Oscars dressed in that thing, the same outfit she warned,
Speaker 4: now incredible, we love Share. Incredible.
Speaker 3: She's managed not to really ever embarrass herself. She's kind
Speaker 3: of just stayed Share. No one's ever said, oh, Share
Speaker 3: has bitten the dust.
Speaker 4: Are you listening to her book? Her?
Speaker 3: No, she's got a book. Does she read it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How is it?
Speaker 4: It's good?
Speaker 3: It's good. It's a whole life spanning thing.
Speaker 4: Or is it a whole thing?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: If this is her first book, I don't know, but
Speaker 4: it's it's uh. It has her stamp of approval.
Speaker 3: I feel like she's got nine books in her at
Speaker 3: least she wants got one for every decade.
Speaker 4: You want me to freak you out right now?
Speaker 3: I would love that.
Speaker 4: Want me to blow your mind right now?
Speaker 3: Not to scream?
Speaker 4: All right, you're gonna scream, okay. In her book she's like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: I ran away from home with my friend Melissa, and
Speaker 4: we had a room. We got a room in Hollywood
Speaker 4: and we met Sonny and Melissa and this and that
Speaker 4: Melissa is my wife's mother.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, that's a scream. Wow, yeah, you're kidding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife got the book and she started listening
Speaker 4: to her and she's like, she hasn't mentioned my mother yet.
Speaker 4: I'm like all right, and then and then she's like, oh,
Speaker 4: she mentioned her. And we're both very happy because we
Speaker 4: weren't sure if that was going to happen, but she
Speaker 4: she mentioned her. Wow.
Speaker 3: Did Melissa pursue any sort of entertainment.
Speaker 4: No, she tried to be a rock star too.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: But it didn't pan out for her, but she tried. Wow.
Speaker 3: That is fascinating.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: And have she and Melissa have she and Shaer lost touch?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Melissa passed away. Okay, she made it to our
Speaker 4: wedding and then uh, and then she passed away after
Speaker 4: that and they they ran into each other once. Ursula
Speaker 4: was like a teenager or something. They were kind of
Speaker 4: cold to each other. Oh no, we don't know under
Speaker 4: what circumstances they split up or whatever, there's a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, to get the cold shoulder from Share? What a feeling.
Speaker 4: I think that Hi, Share, Hi, Melissa like that. Share
Speaker 4: has a lot of cold shoulders to go around. And
Speaker 4: it's just the way it is. That was the that
Speaker 4: was the time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you have the muscle. You're right at the top.
Speaker 4: I suppose, Oh why can't women be friends with other
Speaker 4: women who are powerful? Oh? Is Share?
Speaker 3: I can't imagine she's in Malibu right now. I wonder
Speaker 3: if she's living, why she's not in Malibu? Just you're
Speaker 3: like out in that area. It's a tough place to
Speaker 3: be right now.
Speaker 4: Why with the fires?
Speaker 3: Yeah, did those affects her at all?
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I don't know. That's a
Speaker 4: good question.
Speaker 3: I wonder where her second house is.
Speaker 4: I don't know. You think it's an OHI or Santa
Speaker 4: Barbara or something or or somewhere else completely.
Speaker 3: Maybe somewhere else completely. I mean, if it's within in California,
Speaker 3: I would say, oh, hi, I mean we well, obviously no,
Speaker 3: Sonny was in Palm Springs.
Speaker 4: Sonny was in Palm Springs, which is beautiful place there,
Speaker 4: Palm Springs.
Speaker 3: Maybe I can see who don't know, we're just speculating,
Speaker 3: and share is someone who has a life to speculate about.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's in this book. Maybe she mentions Melissa and
Speaker 3: her palm springs compound.
Speaker 4: Maybe you know what you know the place we like
Speaker 4: a lot, Laguna Beach, Laguna Beach. Why because it's like
Speaker 4: Santa Barbara only liberal? Oh? Interesting like that.
Speaker 3: Santa Barbara's more conservative, and so is Monacito.
Speaker 4: I love MANASICILLAO. It's very conservative, but it's beauty. It's
Speaker 4: all the could it not be? It's all it's all
Speaker 4: the money, the money, money makes things pretty.
Speaker 3: Monasita's where Oprah lives.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she's got a huge place.
Speaker 3: Of her She's got an and the Harry and uh oh,
Speaker 3: Harry and Macon. Now she's got a TV show that
Speaker 3: Oh does she seems confusing? What is it she's doing?
Speaker 3: Like crafts at home?
Speaker 4: Oh, she's got to do something, I guess. Look at
Speaker 4: you driving into cauld the Saxon receiving gifts passive.
Speaker 3: Aggressively, Megan show. Where when do I get to make
Speaker 3: crafts on Netflix?
Speaker 4: I don't know. You said your craft place closed down?
Speaker 3: Joanne is done? Uh, maybe I could buy Joanne maybe
Speaker 3: they've I mean, nobody else wanted to buy it. I
Speaker 3: buy it launch a streaming service. My show is the
Speaker 3: first thing on there.
Speaker 4: Now you're talking and it's.
Speaker 3: The Bridger's Megan Show. All right, Jay, you know you're
Speaker 3: doing she's like putting you know, she's making little drinks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's making cocktails, decorating cookies. What's Bridgers? Is that
Speaker 4: a family name?
Speaker 3: Where a Bridger is an old Mormon name sort of?
Speaker 3: I mean it was the last name of a mountain
Speaker 3: man named Jim Bridger.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's the last name.
Speaker 3: Yes, and my parents, Yeah, he traveled through Utah and
Speaker 3: my parents were aware of Jim Bridger. They said, let's
Speaker 3: use the last name.
Speaker 4: That's cool. It's a cool name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. It's a confusing name
Speaker 3: for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Well, no, once you get it, you're like, it's just
Speaker 4: it's unique. Sure, he built bridges or something. He liked
Speaker 4: them a lot.
Speaker 3: It's uh. I believe it's uh. Its origins are in
Speaker 3: England for somebody who dwelled by a bridge, which doesn't bridge.
Speaker 4: That makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a sparkling origin story, but it's fine.
Speaker 4: I worked at Disneyland for a summer or two when
Speaker 4: I first moved here, and there was a guy for
Speaker 4: he was a dancer, he was a good friend and
Speaker 4: he was in the chorus or something, and I forgot
Speaker 4: his first name, but his last name was side Bottom, Oh,
Speaker 4: side Bottom, which I thought was the coolest name. And
Speaker 4: I said, what's that about? He said, wed, My people
Speaker 4: come from the side bottom of a lake in England
Speaker 4: long time ago. Interesting. That's cool. Interesting.
Speaker 3: And you worked at Disneyland doing what.
Speaker 4: A dinner theater. Aladdin's Oasis was the so it was
Speaker 4: when the movie came out, the music and I was
Speaker 4: a comedic relief while people ate food. Incredible at the
Speaker 4: dinner theater. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you go in there underground tunnels?
Speaker 4: Yes? Sometimes, Yeah, that's what we changed. I think there
Speaker 4: was locker rooms down there and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably not as mysterious or romantic as people think.
Speaker 4: It's not. It's a fun place to work, sure, but.
Speaker 3: Then you just go underground and they're hallways.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's hallways. Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of wish that they were kind of
Speaker 3: like drippy caves.
Speaker 4: That'd be awesome maybe at some point, but I don't
Speaker 4: think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there art direction kind of stops surface level and
Speaker 3: the rest of it's just corporation.
Speaker 4: That's right. Interesting, absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're going to go to the trouble
Speaker 3: of putting a tunnel underneath your resort, have a little
Speaker 3: fun with it.
Speaker 4: Well, there's there are more like walkways. It's just places
Speaker 4: to get around so the public doesn't see you above, right,
Speaker 4: And it's it's not there's a couple of tunnels, but
Speaker 4: it's just backstage a lot. It's just not what you
Speaker 4: see it. They're not tunnels. It's just in the back area.
Speaker 3: The magic and behind yes, behind the.
Speaker 4: Entrance where says employees only and all that.
Speaker 3: And are there any like secret entrances into these tunnels?
Speaker 3: Do you like go like lift up a mailbox and
Speaker 3: walk underground or is it more just here?
Speaker 4: I wish no, And if there were, I know I
Speaker 4: wasn't there long enough to to discover that. That'd be cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's a little thing they could do.
Speaker 4: Think there probably was, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: They've got to have some throughout the park so you
Speaker 3: can pop up in the middle as Peter Pan or whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's necessary. You could just walk
Speaker 4: through a door and you're there. You don't need to
Speaker 4: pop out of something. It's not that I know you
Speaker 4: want to believe that like I want to. We need
Speaker 4: a Peter Pan at level five. Now now, now, don't
Speaker 4: use the tunnels, use the secret mailbox, pop out of
Speaker 4: the thing.
Speaker 3: And this is the problem with Disney.
Speaker 4: What's the problem with this is there are no secret.
Speaker 3: They're not thinking as magically as I am. If I
Speaker 3: were in charge, things would be different.
Speaker 4: Well, they invested money and other things besides secret places
Speaker 4: to pop out of, such as safety, fireworks, food.
Speaker 3: I don't know, none of those things are important. Okay,
Speaker 3: they should have people dropping from trees. I would like
Speaker 3: that surfacing out of the river.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of with you. I just think it's a
Speaker 4: liabil ability, but yes, I would love people to be
Speaker 4: ding out of trees and out of the rivers. That
Speaker 4: be cool.
Speaker 3: Now, I feel like you were working at Disneyland before.
Speaker 3: You know, we've really come into a time of adults
Speaker 3: kind of dedicating their entire lives to Disney. But I
Speaker 3: imagine you were there before that sort of behavior was happening.
Speaker 3: Did you deal with any we're there ever? Like hardcore
Speaker 3: Disney people, you had to deal with when.
Speaker 4: I was working there. Yeah, no, okay, but I think
Speaker 4: I think it might have been around for a long time,
Speaker 4: but I think the Internet and people having access to
Speaker 4: posting themselves all the time has has amped.
Speaker 3: Up everything you taated and amplified.
Speaker 4: Before people just were hanging out and it was now it's.
Speaker 3: Now it's crazy enshowing their Disney Yeah, plushes at home.
Speaker 4: Now they must uh. Yeah. I worked for one of
Speaker 4: the many jobs I was promoting beanie babies or giving
Speaker 4: them away at some event or something, and that was
Speaker 4: the people there were pretty fanatical about that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: children would come and you know, and teenagers and stuff,
Speaker 4: and I have three hundred of them and I have
Speaker 4: this one and I'm like, it's wonderful. They thought, I
Speaker 4: don't care. Here's the promotional purple one with this, and well,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Well there was a period when there was a whole
Speaker 3: economy built around them. Yeah, when people thought that these
Speaker 3: were valuable and would remain valuable yep. And then the
Speaker 3: bottom dropped out, the bubble popped, as it always does, yes,
Speaker 3: and then they were left with just some bean bags. Actually,
Speaker 3: there's one right there that was given us a gas
Speaker 3: on this podcast with The Little The Thing. Yes, Joe
Speaker 3: Castle Baker brought that to me. He thought he was
Speaker 3: told that that one would be valuable, but that one's not.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of a worthless object that I hate.
Speaker 3: So but we keep it here at the studio just
Speaker 3: because you never know, you never know, you never know.
Speaker 4: These are past gifts, past gifts.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a drop in the bucket of
Speaker 3: the amount of things I've received. These ones are just
Speaker 3: kind of pleasant to look at. We've got more gifts here,
Speaker 3: and you know, I've I have a garage at home.
Speaker 3: Just that's Iowa Debois. Do you know her? She was
Speaker 3: in the Bear. She's fantastic.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's her.
Speaker 3: As a kid.
Speaker 4: That's right, I see her face low.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's her. I believe she had to dress up
Speaker 3: as a president in elementary school and there was a
Speaker 3: photo of her and then she had somebody painted for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's pretty adorable, isn't that sweet?
Speaker 3: Yeah. So occasionally you get an object that you actually
Speaker 3: are interested in having, or something that's actually used practical, Yes,
Speaker 3: to use. Those are the two things I really love
Speaker 3: to get. And then sometimes you get something that's like
Speaker 3: this takes up a lot of space and I hate
Speaker 3: it and now it's in my garage forever. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: you've you've gotten into one of the good categories here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I think we should play a game. Okay, We're
Speaker 3: gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse. But
Speaker 3: I need a number between one and ten from you.
Speaker 4: Six.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do a little bit of light
Speaker 3: calculating to get our game piece. Okay, so right now,
Speaker 3: you can recommend, promote, do whatever you want.
Speaker 4: I'll be right back. Okay, there's a show coming out
Speaker 4: on NBC, Peacock. It is not a reboot of the Office,
Speaker 4: but I will be in a show. I don't know
Speaker 4: the details. I told them put it on Broadway. Let's
Speaker 4: go straight to Broadway. They said, no, TV show, TV show.
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, do the TV show. And now
Speaker 4: it's trickling out because the cat's out of the bag.
Speaker 4: Some reporter got a scoop on it and spill the beans.
Speaker 4: So it's out there. It's it's going to be good again.
Speaker 4: I pushed for black and white. They said, no, it's
Speaker 4: going to be in color. So they're not listening to
Speaker 4: me on any of these suggestions. But I think you will,
Speaker 4: you will, you'll like it out there. I suggest you
Speaker 4: watch ten episodes and then decide whether you like it
Speaker 4: or not, and maybe go back and watch it just
Speaker 4: one more time to make sure. And that's that's it.
Speaker 3: That's very exciting. I feel like people are really looking
Speaker 3: forward to that though.
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 3: But it's not called The Office.
Speaker 4: No, my character is in the show.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, but within the Office universe.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, yes, because I on the show, correct, but
Speaker 4: it's not that character that Steve Carell played, Michael Scott.
Speaker 4: He's not in it.
Speaker 3: So that's very exciting. I feel like people are especially
Speaker 3: excited about you being in it.
Speaker 4: I thank you. I hope.
Speaker 3: So we'll find out.
Speaker 4: We'll find out.
Speaker 3: Only time will tell listener. The thing I have to recommend,
Speaker 3: obviously is the Patreon. I think I talked about it
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the podcast, but God only knows, Oscar.
Speaker 3: This is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna name three things. You're going to tell me if
Speaker 3: there are a gift or a curse and why, and
Speaker 3: then I'll tell you if you're a right or wrong
Speaker 3: because there are correct answers. Okay, you can fail the game. Okay,
Speaker 3: be very careful.
Speaker 4: Three. And this is for charity.
Speaker 3: This is for charity. We've helped so many wonderful causes
Speaker 3: and hopefully we'll help some more today. Think of the orphans. Okay,
Speaker 3: number one. This is from a Patreon listener named Courtney.
Speaker 3: Gift or a Curse. The Hudson News retail.
Speaker 4: The Hudson News retail.
Speaker 3: Are you familiar with this?
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's a paper.
Speaker 3: It's the uh those little stores in airports, Hudson News.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I think it's a it's a it's a gift.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of people are traveling and they don't
Speaker 4: have a gift to where they're going or where they're
Speaker 4: coming from. And it's the last kind of minute stuff
Speaker 4: that lets you say, hey, at least I thought about you.
Speaker 4: Don't get mad. Here's some bubblegum, here's a magazine. Here's
Speaker 4: a sweatshirt, you know, here's a hat, here's a sports apparel. Right,
Speaker 4: because I thought of you, So you can get mad,
Speaker 4: but not too mad, because I did have time to
Speaker 4: stop at the Hudson place.
Speaker 3: You're correct. I love the Hudson News. I love being
Speaker 3: there at the airport. It's my rarely do you get
Speaker 3: a little bit of time to just browse magazines anymore.
Speaker 4: I don't mind. And now they have a thing where
Speaker 4: you don't have to deal with the the person there.
Speaker 4: You can check out. Have you seen it?
Speaker 3: No, it's a self checkout, self checkout.
Speaker 4: And the last time I was there, they had me restocking,
Speaker 4: which I did not expect. They had you restart, re
Speaker 4: stop the books and magazines. I did not expect that.
Speaker 4: They said you get to check out, but here take
Speaker 4: this box. And I'm like, what is happening. So they're
Speaker 4: doing away with their help and they're, oh, you're kids.
Speaker 4: They're putting it on the part to hear, well, this
Speaker 4: is what's happening.
Speaker 3: This is the twenty first century. I know. I love
Speaker 3: a Hudson News. I love to look at People Magazine,
Speaker 3: all of the tabloids. It is a little depressing to
Speaker 3: see print publishing kind of dwindling. You're seeing it.
Speaker 4: I get the Architectural Digest, that's my.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one. Look at all the beautiful homes,
Speaker 3: that's right. And you get to look at the hot
Speaker 3: best sellers. Yeah, not generally the sort of books that
Speaker 3: I'm reading. But it's like this is what we're reading
Speaker 3: as a society, and some of them are good, and
Speaker 3: there's usually like at least one self help book you
Speaker 3: might browse at the airport to hopefully correct your behavior. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then I'm always wondering, maybe what would happen if
Speaker 3: I shoplifted.
Speaker 4: Here at the Hudson News Daily.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, what do they do? Are you arrested? What
Speaker 3: if you get onto the plane and you fly off
Speaker 3: before they found you? That feels like the perfect crime.
Speaker 4: I'm it's an interesting quarie. Why don't you find out?
Speaker 3: I mean, the temptation is there.
Speaker 4: You're full and I know, I know it's part of
Speaker 4: your job, but you're cautious, You're full of fear, and
Speaker 4: you have bad ideas that border I'm breaking the law.
Speaker 4: And I don't know whether to encourage you to do
Speaker 4: that or'll pull you back and say, get a grip, man.
Speaker 3: I feel like airport security has bigger fish to fry
Speaker 3: than me stealing a granola bar.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you're obsessed with with this thing,
Speaker 4: and so.
Speaker 3: It dominates my thoughts.
Speaker 4: Well, find out, go ahead and see us ee, and
Speaker 4: when they arrest you say, it's an experiment. It's an underperiment.
Speaker 4: It's a joke, it's a job. This is what I do.
Speaker 3: I was kidding, let me go on my vacation.
Speaker 4: Let me go on my vacation. I didn't mean it.
Speaker 3: God, you take everything so seriously. Around here do that?
Speaker 4: Take that angle at the airport, at the airport, of
Speaker 4: all places, of all places.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well you got one right, so far, so very good,
Speaker 3: very nicely played. Number two. This is from a listener
Speaker 3: named Emily Gift her a curse parents introducing their newborn
Speaker 3: baby with a nickname already.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think that's a curse. Although I kind of
Speaker 4: think we did it, oh, because yes, we have August
Speaker 4: and we called her Augie. We didn't introduce her as Augie,
Speaker 4: but I think we might have said August or you
Speaker 4: could call her. And when she was three, she's like,
Speaker 4: I'm not Augie, I'm August, and we're like, oh, that
Speaker 4: didn't last as long as we wanted it to last.
Speaker 4: We still call her Augi sometimes, but she's August.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I think you can't win.
Speaker 4: It's going to happen organically. If your kid is going
Speaker 4: to have a nickname, it'll be placed upon them by
Speaker 4: their peers. Don't get bent out of shape about it.
Speaker 4: It's all good. It'll it'll probably go away or stick
Speaker 4: with them. It's just part of life. There's worse things,
Speaker 4: and then getting a nick name.
Speaker 3: You're getting a nickname.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was nicknames in my neighborhood and uh, and
Speaker 4: they were all pretty cool and and it was fellas,
Speaker 4: so they didn't mind the rough feelings. They didn't care.
Speaker 3: Did you have any nicknames? No, I was Oscar Oscar
Speaker 3: yours is It just is a nice snappy name, so
Speaker 3: you don't really have to take any shortcuts with that.
Speaker 4: But we had Peppy, we had Speedy, we had Pineapple.
Speaker 3: Those are great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had fat Robert, which my wife and daughter
Speaker 4: are like, how could you call him back? And we're like,
Speaker 4: I'm like, he didn't mind it. They're like he minded.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't think he did. He was fine
Speaker 4: with it because there were several Roberts, Mike the hippie
Speaker 4: because there was like three mics.
Speaker 3: Okay, so interesting. But you're saying curse here, gift, curse, I.
Speaker 4: Think curse, I think curse. I know it's hard not
Speaker 4: to because you want to write, but try not to.
Speaker 3: Right, you're wrong Okay, I love it. Cut to the chase.
Speaker 3: We know we're gonna have a nickname at some point.
Speaker 3: Give me the nickname. I don't need the whole thing,
Speaker 3: the whole ordeal. I mean, maybe you should have just
Speaker 3: named them that instead of if you hate the original
Speaker 3: name so much that you're not even going to use it.
Speaker 3: But I think it's a gift ultimately, so I don't
Speaker 3: even have to think about the nickname. I just get
Speaker 3: to be lazy and do the nickname. Do the nickname.
Speaker 3: And I always love to find out somebody's real name later.
Speaker 3: You know, when somebody goes by their middle name their
Speaker 3: whole life, and you find out that.
Speaker 4: It's a surprise. For it's a shock.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I never thought that you were.
Speaker 4: That Elizabeth right from your nickname, so it's a surprise.
Speaker 4: It's a surprised.
Speaker 3: It's the nicest things, all right, I see that, I
Speaker 3: get that.
Speaker 4: Part, all right.
Speaker 3: You've gotten one out of two so far, and this
Speaker 3: is the final one. This is from a listener named
Speaker 3: Brian Gift or a curse several sequential emails from the
Speaker 3: same person, each with a different topic.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm gonna go with Gift. This could go
Speaker 4: either way. The first thing that struck me was it's
Speaker 4: going to be good news, and I know you're going
Speaker 4: to go the other way because I know you, Oh
Speaker 4: dooming blue.
Speaker 3: The first thing about.
Speaker 4: Me, Yeah, everything, Your whole take is oh no, oh no,
Speaker 4: the airport, oh no, the rain, oh no, the traffic.
Speaker 4: I'm going the other way, bridge or if that's your
Speaker 4: real name, because it's Elizabeth, I'm assuming there you go.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming it's all good news. Hey, Spielberg called you
Speaker 4: better get back to me. Hey, it's your agent, call
Speaker 4: me back to Spielberg. No, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh exciting, let me get back to it.
Speaker 4: As opposed to what you're gonna say, which is gift.
Speaker 4: Oh nice, it's an oscar. Of course, it's a gift
Speaker 4: than I love. You get to watch somebody's breakdown in
Speaker 4: real time. You're watching your friend or coworker or manager
Speaker 4: have an absolute meltdown. See why is it a not
Speaker 4: why is it not celebratory?
Speaker 3: Well, it could be a so excited they're having a meltdown. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's that's a nice compromise. Okay, that's a niceten such
Speaker 3: good news that their brain has had broken, breaking down,
Speaker 3: they can no longer function, and they've now sent you
Speaker 3: fourteen emails. Okay, what a celebrate, What a celebration?
Speaker 4: Fireworks?
Speaker 3: Okay, you got two out of three.
Speaker 4: Crack open a new bar of soap.
Speaker 3: I'll take a bite out of this right now. Yay, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is uh. We have one more of these because
Speaker 3: on a lease, our producer has their own gift a curse.
Speaker 3: They're gonna name one, and then we each have to
Speaker 3: speak to it, and then they'll tell us if we're
Speaker 3: right or wrong.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll be contrary. We'll take different sides.
Speaker 3: Yes, well yeah, we'll see what happens on at least.
Speaker 5: What is it gift or a curse? April Fool's jokes?
Speaker 3: Do you want to go or should I go?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go firstince I'm the guests April Fool's Jokes.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say a gift because I know you
Speaker 4: You're probably right it's a curse, and I I'll let
Speaker 4: you take the curse. I'm just gonna look at it
Speaker 4: as a gift because it brings to light and it
Speaker 4: exposes the type of people that are playing these jokes
Speaker 4: on you. And then you can better judge. Do I
Speaker 4: want to remain in a relationship with this person who
Speaker 4: put a you know, a live straight dogging my car
Speaker 4: as an April Fool's joke.
Speaker 3: Now I'm on my way at the hospital.
Speaker 4: Bab GUCCIONI that was not funny. They have a debauchery,
Speaker 4: no I, and so I think it drags everyone into
Speaker 4: the light, and therefore it is a good thing.
Speaker 3: Curse, Absolutely a curse. I I mean, I think prank
Speaker 3: culture in general should be shut down by the government.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: I do not like a prank. As far as a
Speaker 3: prank goes. Maybe if you move something slightly in my
Speaker 3: home and that's it. Oh look the vase is three
Speaker 3: inches further away than it was. That's that's a decent prank.
Speaker 3: Nobody gets hurt, nobody gets surprised something was a little off,
Speaker 3: and we all get to smile and move on. I
Speaker 3: also think that all April Fools is a horrible day
Speaker 3: to be on the internet. You can't it's even less
Speaker 3: trustworthy than usual. Everybody's trying to be funny and crazy.
Speaker 3: It's an irritating thing to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no good day to be on the internet.
Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, yeah, I don't want to be pranked.
Speaker 3: Save back for candid camera.
Speaker 4: I will say this. We are painting with broad strokes
Speaker 4: here because some practical jokes. Did you hear the one
Speaker 4: that you know? The one Clooney played on Richard Kind?
Speaker 3: What's this?
Speaker 4: George Clooney and Richard kind were roommates. This is before
Speaker 4: that hospital show he was on or whatever, right, George
Speaker 4: clot was a pit.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're getting sued because they're too much
Speaker 3: like Er.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, maybe they're getting sued for that.
Speaker 3: That's someone was telling me last night that the pit
Speaker 3: is too similar to Er, which I think. There are
Speaker 3: so many hospitals.
Speaker 4: Can we go a day without litigation? No, apparently not.
Speaker 3: I love a lawsuit.
Speaker 4: So Richard kind of and Clooney are roommates.
Speaker 3: Yes, dear friends for years.
Speaker 4: Really good friends, their roommates. And Richard kind he he
Speaker 4: adopted a little kitten, a little black kitten or something,
Speaker 4: and he had a job, and George is just home
Speaker 4: auditioning but mostly home. And George Clooney got into his
Speaker 4: head to start cleaning the litter box, so Richard Kain
Speaker 4: would come home expecting to clean.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, to clean the and it was always empty.
Speaker 4: And he's like, George, have you noticed there's Noah And
Speaker 4: he's like, no, I haven't noticed, Like I think Katie's constipated.
Speaker 4: He hasn't, you know, pooped in days now, days now,
Speaker 4: And he's I'm sure he's all right. George clean and
Speaker 4: Richard Kind. It's like the third or fourth day, I
Speaker 4: don't know, and George Clooney takes up dump, oh my god,
Speaker 4: man sized oh dump in the litter box and he's
Speaker 4: in the living room eating popcorn, watching TV like an idiot.
Speaker 4: And Richard Kind comes home and he walks into the
Speaker 4: bathroom and he goes, oh, Katy. George is like, what happened.
Speaker 4: He's like, look, he must have it must have been.
Speaker 4: George like, oh my god, is he okay? He's like,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I've got to clean it, but I
Speaker 4: don't know. And I don't know if he told him
Speaker 4: or not. It's all crazy ship that's a good oh.
Speaker 4: He also he also at the time on This Man's Hands,
Speaker 4: he also did this one. He would go out and
Speaker 4: buy a stupid painting at a at a garage sale,
Speaker 4: like one of those stupid paintings, and he would bring
Speaker 4: it home and he would buy like like a paint
Speaker 4: set and be working on it. And Richard kind of
Speaker 4: would come home go, oh my god, I dabble and
Speaker 4: he's like, oh, you're good. He's like, oh am I
Speaker 4: and he he would and he would go to the
Speaker 4: art supply store with Richard Kine and shop like he's
Speaker 4: a painter.
Speaker 3: Richard k like, well, torturing this man.
Speaker 4: Just for no reason, just for no reason, isn't that wonderful?
Speaker 3: I could not be friends with George Klooney, George, I
Speaker 3: know you want to be friends. Stop calling.
Speaker 4: Oh but those those are harmless.
Speaker 3: That's not for me.
Speaker 4: That's absolutely harmless.
Speaker 3: I would run this man over.
Speaker 4: It's all in good fun. He didn't hurt him anyway.
Speaker 3: Wow, psychopath. Yeah, curse, but Oscar saying gift on at least,
Speaker 3: what's the answer.
Speaker 5: They're a curse. Come on, there's no other answer. It's about,
Speaker 5: like you said, Bridger, it's the culture of pranks. It
Speaker 5: is just emotional manipulation, and it's always around. Sure, I'm
Speaker 5: sure there's like some exceptions that prove the rule, but
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, it's either you're giving
Speaker 5: somebody false hope or you're giving somebody false terror and
Speaker 5: either way it's awful.
Speaker 3: Curse, get a life, Get a life. And this is
Speaker 3: coming out right after April Fool's Day.
Speaker 4: To hear someone going, oh katy because they think that
Speaker 4: a little dumped his own weight.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, well, I mean Richard Kine's saying
Speaker 3: anything is wonderfulse I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: This is the final segment of the podcast. People write
Speaker 3: into I said no gifts at gmail dot com begging
Speaker 3: for answers. Can't you help me answer a question?
Speaker 4: Yes? Okay?
Speaker 3: This is Deerbridge or and guest. Our daughter, thirteen, has
Speaker 3: been best friends with the set of twins since nursery school.
Speaker 3: The twins' parents have been wonderfully kind and are always
Speaker 3: sure to include our daughter in play dates, parties, sleepover strips,
Speaker 3: to them all, etc.
Speaker 4: We get it.
Speaker 3: They never hesitate to include her as one of their own.
Speaker 3: Since my husband and I own a business, we don't
Speaker 3: have as much free time available to reciprocating kind. What
Speaker 3: is a thoughtful gift for the twins' parents for being
Speaker 3: so generous with our daughter. The parents are in their
Speaker 3: early forties, enjoy dining out, shopping, outdoor activities such as
Speaker 3: hunting and four wheeling and have several pets. I promise
Speaker 3: to never write back thank you, and that's from m find.
Speaker 4: Out what their favorite restaurant is, buy them a gift certificate,
Speaker 4: and maybe sit to twins while they go out and
Speaker 4: have dinner and adah.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting, that's not the worst idea in the world.
Speaker 3: I feel like, I mean, these people are kind of
Speaker 3: angling to take over the daughter's life. Feels like the
Speaker 3: parents are so busy at work, they're working, working, working,
Speaker 3: and these people are buttering up the child, spoiling her.
Speaker 3: I feel like they're trying to turn the daughter against
Speaker 3: the parents.
Speaker 4: To what end.
Speaker 3: To ask them they want to take her hunting?
Speaker 4: What do you mean they want to take her hunting?
Speaker 3: They love hunting and four wheeling.
Speaker 4: Never said that, they said we're taking your child. They
Speaker 4: love hunting it They're not taking the child hunting.
Speaker 3: They're never going to say it, Oscar until the daughter's
Speaker 3: holding a rifle and dressing all or no wonder.
Speaker 4: You have no friends? What is going on with you?
Speaker 4: I hope and pray that this is part of your
Speaker 4: persona to rile things up. When these people are just
Speaker 4: trying to take this girl and have a good time
Speaker 4: with her.
Speaker 3: Well, I hope this is your absolute naive. I mean,
Speaker 3: you must be taken advantage of all the time. How
Speaker 3: so your daughter's probably out hunting right now.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, she happens to be, but that has nothing
Speaker 4: to do. She's hunting for bear with a bow and arrow,
Speaker 4: and we think it's safe and wonderful. They're up in
Speaker 4: a mammoth. Now, oh, listen, we have an only child,
Speaker 4: and so she goes and has sleep Oh, which was
Speaker 4: a big deal for us to let her go have
Speaker 4: a sleepover, but now it's I mean, she's twelve, she's
Speaker 4: almost thirteen. She has sleepover with friends and they stay
Speaker 4: with us and stuff, and so, yeah, you need and
Speaker 4: I think it's their only child, right.
Speaker 3: From what I guess, seems like the only kid.
Speaker 4: So she needs to have little friends because she's for herself.
Speaker 3: Yes, and the parents are probably horrible. Whose parents her parents?
Speaker 4: Oh that goes without saying.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're writing into a podcast from the.
Speaker 4: Book of Bridger. Oh my god. Yeah, So I say
Speaker 4: it's a yeah, get to dinner. It's a no brainer.
Speaker 4: You and babysit the twins and give the other folks
Speaker 4: a day off.
Speaker 3: Fine, right, sure, if that's what you want to do,
Speaker 3: what do you want to do? I want them to
Speaker 3: keep an eye on this family.
Speaker 4: That has nothing to do with showing them a good time.
Speaker 4: They want to show them a good time. They want
Speaker 4: to That's how.
Speaker 3: You show people as your number potentially move out of state.
Speaker 3: These people are coming for your daughter because they've they
Speaker 3: have twins and they can't get enough. They want to trip.
Speaker 3: They're addicted to children.
Speaker 4: Well, be on the lookout if they dye your kid's
Speaker 4: hair the same color as the twins. I guess yes.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I think that they've got two answers. Two
Speaker 3: answers they can look at their situation. They have probably
Speaker 3: a few more details and decide how they want to
Speaker 3: live the rest of their lives with or without their daughter.
Speaker 4: We wish them the best.
Speaker 3: I don't don't write back in she already promised, but
Speaker 3: we've just got to make sure, Oscar we answered the
Speaker 3: question perfectly. I now have these lovely bars of soap.
Speaker 3: It was such a confirm I mean, it was nice
Speaker 3: to actually be able to use my sense of smell
Speaker 3: after feeling so insecure about it just moments before. And
Speaker 3: now I'll be able to take these home when people
Speaker 3: will think Bridger's got taste.
Speaker 4: It would be so rude to take them back at
Speaker 4: this point, wouldn't it. Look at them there, they're just
Speaker 4: gonna be. You're gonna wasted on you. You'll open there,
Speaker 4: You'll be bumbling and bumbling. It will be falling on
Speaker 4: the floor. You'll be screaming and smashing into the freaking
Speaker 4: shower head and all.
Speaker 3: That, and then here comes my shower assistant.
Speaker 4: You'll be you'll get injured trying to use the bars
Speaker 4: of soap.
Speaker 3: Well, then, lawsuit. I mean, I've got all kinds of
Speaker 3: things happening. Great, Yes you can, You'll be served soon.
Speaker 4: I should have you sign a waiver for you.
Speaker 3: I used to sign any waiver for anything. Ever, I
Speaker 3: will not be caught in a lawsuit unless it's me
Speaker 3: starting it. Yeah, Oscar, thank you for being here.
Speaker 4: Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 3: I've had a wonderful time. How long was this four hours?
Speaker 3: And I felt every second of it.
Speaker 4: I see you have a stopwatch up there, one one
Speaker 4: that's wonderful.
Speaker 3: We could just kind of watch that gop for a
Speaker 3: little while.
Speaker 4: Let it go so predictable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the listener loves to I know that they just
Speaker 3: love to hear the podcast as the host and guest
Speaker 3: watch a timer go yeah, it's lost a certain suspense.
Speaker 3: It's thank you for being here, my pleasure listener. The podcast,
Speaker 3: if you haven't guessed, is over, figure something out. I
Speaker 3: love you, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly
Speaker 3: right production. Our senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and
Speaker 3: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme
Speaker 3: song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't
Speaker 3: do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow
Speaker 3: the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts, that's
Speaker 3: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful
Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the
Speaker 3: gifts invant?
Speaker 1: Did you hear? Fun a man? Myself perfectly clear? But
Speaker 1: you're a guest to you gotta come to me empty
Speaker 1: And I said, no guests. Presence is person's enough.
Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do
Speaker 1: You dare to surbey me