1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Personally Feldman. Tasha Risalez joins the podcast this week for 2 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: the series on things we consider healthy but maybe not 3 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: so much. Stephanie had broke down how this all looks 4 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: in root Cause practice, but Tasha is someone who not 5 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: only experienced the consequences of her unhealthier choices, but actively 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: made a decision to change for her and her whole family. 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: Her Instagram at wellness dot Homemade has changed many people's lives, 8 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: helping simplify nutrition and cut off the green washing with 9 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: products deemed healthy. With Me today is Tasha Resalas. You 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: are so awesome because you're living to talks Free life 11 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: and you're preaching about it to people online and really 12 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: trying to get people to understand. So I'm excited to 13 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: chat with you today. How are you? Thanks for being here. 14 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm good, I'm doing well. 15 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: How are you. 16 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm good. I just cannot wait to talk about all 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: these things because this is so interesting. I think more 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: people are really trying to adapt this new way of 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: living and understanding all the things that are within products 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: and the things that we are using in and on 21 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: our bodies. So I'm just so excited what brought you 22 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: into this line of work and doing this posting on Instagram, like, 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: where did this all begin for you? 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: So it all started with my first pregnancy with my 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: now seventeen year old so eighteen years ago, just about 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: eighteen years ago, I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes at 27 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: six six weeks gestation, so most people test much further 28 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: along in their pregnancy, but I had gone to the 29 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: doctor and I had presented in my first appointment with 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: some issues that he was like, I think we need 31 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: to do some blood work, and so we did some 32 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: blood work. On the way home, I got a call saying, 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: you need to come back. Your blood sugars out of control. 34 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: So I was told that I would never get through 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: my pregnancy without insulin, and I did. So that really 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: triggered for me that there's more going on because I 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 2: started having to read food labels based on carbs. That's 38 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: all you basically learn when you go learn about diabetes 39 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: or gestational diabetes. And then I started reading ingredient labels 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: and just learning more about our food system and what 41 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: I was putting on and inside my body. And to 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: add to it, it was really hard for us to 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: get pregnant in the first place, so it took years 44 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: to get pregnant, and I had gotten pregnant once I 45 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: had a miscarriage, and then it had been another year 46 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: and we actually were using clomid to try to conceive. 47 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: And with my second, our youngest, I didn't need anything 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: and I didn't have gestational diabetes, and that's like unheard of. 49 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: So you went back to those doctors where you like, 50 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: so this happened, and they're like, how. 51 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were shocked that I didn't get gestational diabetes 52 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: with the second one. They were like, I don't understand. 53 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't until three days before I had my now 54 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: seventeen year old that I actually messaged the doctor and 55 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: the dietician that I was working with and I was like, hey, 56 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: my blood sugars are out of control, and they were like, listen, 57 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: you made it this far. You have a doctor's appointment 58 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: in three days. We're not going to do anything. So 59 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 2: then I had gone to the doctors and they ended 60 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: up inducing me to do to like other health issues, 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: so it was like a three strikes, you're out type thing. 62 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: But overall they were like shocked that I was able 63 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: to get through essentially nine months of pregnancy with gestational 64 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: diabetes without any help, and then on top of that, 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: you're at a high risk of type two diabetes within 66 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: ten years of having that child, and I had the 67 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: best a ones I've ever had at my ten year checkup. 68 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: It was just eye opening to me how just simply 69 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: learning how to read food labels, learning how to nourish 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: your body, and reducing the talks and load in our 71 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: home really helped us myself live a healthier life. 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: So when you first got that appointment that said, hey, 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: you have gestational diabetes, we need insuliin, was it that 74 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: moment forward where you started to read everything and pay 75 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: attention to what was happening you at home and you 76 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: just started deep diving into what you could do differently. 77 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: So when you first find out that you well, this 78 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: is how it was then. I don't know how it 79 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: is now. But when I first found out, I had 80 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: to go to an appointment with others that had just 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: been diagnosed with some sort of diabetes. Right, So whether 82 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: it was type two diabetes gestational diabetes, like, everybody was 83 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: there for their own purpose, but it was essentially the 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: same information. And so you just watch a video and 85 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: they give you papers and you're like left on your own, 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is an enough for me. 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: I've always been the type of person like, don't tell 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: me I can't do something, because I will do it, 89 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: so don't test me. And the internet wasn't as like 90 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: broad back then, right we're talking. We didn't walk around 91 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: with iPhones or anything. Nothing was on our phone. We 92 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: didn't have time to do that. I worked in the 93 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: medical field at the time, so we were really not 94 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: supposed to be on the Internet at the time. But 95 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: I was doing my research as much as I could 96 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: on the Internet at that time, and I just started 97 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: learning that like balancing certain things like protein really helped. 98 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: And back then I still drink Starbucks. I don't drink 99 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: Starbucks anymore, but it was like, Oh, I can have 100 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: this tall caramel macchiato, but I can't have that grand Grande. 101 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: I think it was a white chocolate molk I used 102 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: to get or something like that. So I started learning 103 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: how to manipulate my blood sugars, but to benefit my 104 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: overall health. Really, I wasn't actually manipulating, it was just 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: that's what I thought back then. It's Oh, I'll manipulate 106 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: this so that I have better blood sugar levels, but 107 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: I was really improving my health. 108 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so interesting too that you say that. And 109 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: you were like just trying kind of these different ways, 110 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: and you were working in the medical field. So what 111 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: were you doing in the medical field? Which is also taboo, 112 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: right because you go into a medical field or a 113 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: doctor and they say, here's some antibiotic and stuff, and 114 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: a lot of them are becoming so much better about Okay, 115 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: let's change the diet, let's figure out what's actually happening. 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: But most of them, here's a band aid fix, and 117 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: this is what we're going to have to do. So 118 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: where were you working in the medical field at this time? 119 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, back then, I was working for the head of dermatology. 120 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: I used to keep all the MOSE schedules and do 121 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: the checking up on the patients after they left in 122 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: things which I don't know if you know what moses, 123 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: but it's like a skin cancer surgery. So I was 124 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: like hustle and bustle type thing. She wasn't going to 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: tell me anything nutrition wise, right, Like she deals with 126 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: something completely different. Over the years, I worked in different 127 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: fields in the medical field, but overall, like it was 128 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: never I was a nurse or an EME or anything 129 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, I mean I still was in it. 130 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: I've worked in a lot of different departments, so I 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: wasn't hearing a lot of hey nutrition, Hey this that 132 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: or the other. It's very much I need this medication 133 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: prescribed for this person, and I need this that or 134 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: the other. So you're right, there's a lot of doctors 135 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: that aren't doing it. But you are right again that 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: it is changing. I do believe that it is changing. 137 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: Yes, we are starting to find some middle ground, which 138 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: seems to take just more time than not. Yeah, this 139 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: happens in your first pregnancy, and the second pregnancy happens 140 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: you don't have any issues. Then are you starting to 141 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, more people may need this information. 142 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: So not quite yet. So at this point, my oldest 143 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: the one that's seventeen now, she was having some gut 144 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: issues and my husband was having some gut issues. Like 145 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: we had gotten to a certain point where I felt comfortable. 146 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: I had balanced blood sugars, I didn't have type two diabetes. 147 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: I was more focused on my daughter at the time, 148 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: and if I'm being really honest, I was really focused 149 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: on my husband not being in the bathroom all the time. Like, 150 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: I feel like that's such a thing for women to be, Like, 151 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: my husband's in the bathroom all the time. I was 152 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: sick of it. I was like, every time we have 153 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: to go somewhere, you're in the bathroom, or every time 154 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: I need you, you're in the bathroom. And I just 155 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: couldn't take it anymore. So I started taking things to 156 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: another level. We started adding more gut nourishing foods. We 157 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: started adding cambucha. My daughter was prescribed mirr locks, and 158 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: I kindly declined the doctor. I was like, this kid 159 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: is starting kindergarten. I'm not putting her on mir locks 160 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: for her to start kindergarten. Absolutely not. So from that 161 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: point forward, we really started to eliminate some of the 162 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: more processed foods because, yes, we were doing better and 163 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: I was focusing on balanced blood sugars, but we still 164 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: had some of those snacky items, and so I started 165 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: diving more into Okay, what are things that are affecting 166 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: our gut? Okay, so we're eating these high carbohydrate snacks perhaps, right, 167 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: even like the Trader Joe's bars, Right, it's still high 168 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: in sugar. Yeah, there are a better option than what 169 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: might be at the regular grocery store. But they're still 170 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: high in sugars, they have gums, they have all these things. 171 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: So we just started reducing those things and then adding 172 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: in a significant amount of fruits and vegetables. We were 173 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: eating them, but we were eating more and then the 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: fermented foods, And the only fermented foods that I could 175 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: really get my kids to eat at that time or 176 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: drink was cambucha. For my youngest, I was noticing that 177 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: all the kids in the preschool were getting sick, and 178 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: I had already gone back to school. I was learning 179 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: more about nutrition, and I knew that I needed to 180 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: cut down on sugars for her and add in these 181 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: fermented foods. She kept not getting sick, and everybody else, 182 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: all the other kids were getting sick. So she wasn't 183 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: getting set home, but all these other kids were getting 184 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: set home. Cadence, my older daughter, was noticing better gut issues. 185 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: She was going to the bathroom. I'm telling you, from 186 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: the time she was born until the time she was five, 187 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: that kid would go to the bathroom once a week, 188 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: and the doctor was like, oh, it's fine, She's totally fine, 189 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 2: and I'm like this can't be normal, Like you should 190 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: be I would imagine kids should be pooping every day. 191 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: So because I was living this lifestyle or creating this 192 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: lifestyle for my kids and myself, my husband wasn't really 193 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: on board. And I was like, this is what we're making, 194 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: this is what we're having, and if you don't like it, 195 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: then I don't know. I'm not a short order cook basically. 196 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: So he started leading the lifestyle, but he was not 197 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: happy about it. Yeah, And after a few weeks or 198 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: maybe six to eight weeks, maybe two months, he I'll 199 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: never forget. He was in the hallway and he was like, 200 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: I think this is working. Like I'm not having the 201 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: same issues. And I had already noticed he was spending 202 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: less time in the bathroom and stuff, and he was like, 203 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: I think this is something's going on because I feel 204 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: a lot better. I feel lighter. He had lost weight 205 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: at this point. I want to say he lost like 206 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: ten fifteen pounds. He really dropped some weight. He wasn't 207 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: in the bathroom as much. He had more energy. We 208 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: both had more energy, to be honest with you, And 209 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: that's where it started, where he just watched on and 210 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, this is working. Let's move on. So 211 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: that's how that all transpired. It's a long story, but. 212 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because it's wild to see where someone 213 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: comes from because you don't just wake up one day 214 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: and just flip a switch and you're like, I'm gonna 215 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: do this. Typically something happens, or there's a moment in 216 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: your life, or somebody has health issues and you just 217 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: want to look into some alternative options. So I think 218 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: that's a really cool background to your story because it's human. 219 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: You just had a very real human family experience and 220 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: it was like a mom that just said I've had enough, 221 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: he died that your husman being in the bathroom too 222 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: much is what kind of kickstarted some of this hilarious. 223 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you see it all the time, like there's 224 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: all kinds of reels and things on social media about 225 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: making fun of husbands for being in the bathroom. And 226 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: I don't complain about that anymore. It was a very 227 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: short period of our time because our kids were so young. 228 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: I don't complain about that anymore because I'm like, we 229 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: don't have that problem because we've worked through it. 230 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: I love that though, that's a very real thing for 231 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: so many people. Yeah, So what was something along this 232 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: journey where you're like, dang, I thought that was so 233 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: good for us, and it's really not. And maybe there's 234 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say. Maybe. I know there are multiple things, 235 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: but some that just startled you maybe in the beginning 236 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: of this process. 237 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: I think it's just some of the foods that you know, 238 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: like for instance, like Nature's Valley or naked Juice drinks 239 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: or things like that, like they're so high in sugar, 240 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: or like I said, the Nature's Valley oat bars or whatever, 241 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: they're delicious. I'm not, I'll give you that, but they're 242 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: basically just sugar packed in some granola. And these are 243 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: things that I would feed my kids because and myself 244 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: because I'm like, oh, these are healthy according to the 245 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: grocery store and what the foods say on the front. 246 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: But it wasn't until I started to really pay attention 247 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: to what's on the back and like also how foods 248 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: made me feel, that I realized, like, this actually isn't 249 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: healthy at all. And we've gotten so far away from 250 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: processed foods in our home at this point, we're way 251 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: ahead of the average person, like we don't have as 252 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: many and it's just because I a lot of those 253 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: things just aren't that great. Most of them are, Like 254 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: I don't really think you can really call many of 255 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: them out because most of them aren't as great Annie's right, Yeah, 256 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: they're a better option. I guess this is probably a 257 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: better point to your question, like Annie's crackers are a 258 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: better option, or is it Annie's that makes the macarini 259 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: and cheese Annie's macaroni and. 260 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: Cheese, Annie's common it's. 261 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: A better option. But if you look at the back 262 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: and Okay, the ingredients are better, but it's the same 263 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: nutritional makeup as macaroni and cheese, there might be like 264 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: a slight difference in like calories are fat and I'm 265 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: but nothing that would be like mind boggling. It's not healthier. 266 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: It has better ingredients in it, but it's still macaroni 267 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: and cheese. Right. Well, I think that's another part of 268 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: like your question, like of what is something that surprised 269 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: you that wasn't as healthy? And I think that a 270 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: lot of people don't think of things like that. They 271 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: just think, oh, this is healthier because it has better ingredients. 272 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm eating the healthy ice cream. You're still eating ice cream. 273 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: It just has better ingredients. That's it. Like it's still 274 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: which is fine. You could totally eat ice cream, but 275 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: it's not healthy because it's got less ingredients and it 276 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: still has it's still protein, fat, all of the things sugar. 277 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: So that's more where I sit at. 278 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: This point in my journey of Yeah, And that kind 279 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: of reminds me too of that term that people use 280 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: grain washing, where they it really looks like something's organic 281 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: or healthy, but they're just changing the label and making 282 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: it look prettier in your I think that you're getting 283 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: a healthy swap, and this is very common, right, there's 284 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: so many places that are doing this. I'm not like 285 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: crazy that I've seen this. 286 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: No, everybody's doing it. 287 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: Right. 288 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: There's chips, right, Like I love Coeti chips. If I'm 289 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: gonna buy chips, it's gonna be Coeti chips, right, But 290 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: they're still chips, Like they have better oils in them, 291 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: and if you buy the flavored kind, they have real 292 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: ingredients flavoring them as opposed to a dorito or a 293 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: laised chip or whatever, but it's still going to affect 294 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: your body very similarly, like it's still just carps. 295 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: I needed to be reminded of this because I have 296 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: had enough healthy swaps from like Okay, this feels better. 297 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: But truthfully, I'd be so honest with myself. When I 298 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: really feel good, it's when I'm cooking my own food 299 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: that's from produce and I'm making stuff that's just like 300 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: from nature, genuinely, and that's when I feel the best, 301 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: not when I'm even utilizing like these healthy organic swaps 302 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: if you will. 303 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that it convinces people that they 304 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: can eat more. Right, I'm eating the healthy crackers so 305 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: instead of a serving, I'm eating the whole box, right, 306 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: or because they're healthy. And then people come to me 307 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: to work with me and they're like, but I eat 308 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: healthy and I just can't lose weight, And I'm like, okay, 309 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: let's see what you're eating. You're eating an entire box 310 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: of crackers every day because they're healthy, and really that's 311 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: not actually serving you. 312 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: So when you are doing like truly no substitute snow 313 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: swaps or anything, is your house mostly filled with produce 314 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: and things that you guys are physically cooking and putting 315 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: together yourselves. 316 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: I would say eighty five to ninety percent of our 317 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: diet is like whole real food, So it's like chicken, salmon, 318 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: ground beef, ground turkey. We do eat things like cottage cheese, yogurt, 319 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, so obviously those are like mildly processed, right. 320 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: Lots of fruits, lots of vegetables, herbs, things like that. 321 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: We have really in our snack cabinets, mostly like pistachios, 322 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: maybe some granola. We have a lot of dry fruit. 323 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: My girls love dry like the freeze dried uff. But 324 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: for older kids, I'm like, this is like puffs like 325 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: when you were kids. But anyways, stuff like that. They 326 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: like stuff like that. That's not to say that we 327 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: don't have c at day chips or things like that, 328 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: but we've really reduced the amount that we're buying just 329 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: because if they're in there, they're just going to eat them. 330 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: But if there's strawberries in there, they'll just eat the strawberries. 331 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, whatever, but we have them. You 332 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: just have to be prepared in the right Yeah. 333 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's because said so much of what it 334 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: is not having it around, because once you have it around, 335 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: it makes it really easy just to grab for it. 336 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't want to create a negative relationship either 337 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: for your kids. 338 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I was just about to ask you 339 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: with your kids, because you're doing all of this and 340 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: you have kids, which adds an entirely different layer. I 341 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: was talking to somebody about this on social media, and 342 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so proud of myself, like I 343 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: do this, But then I look at you and you 344 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: have kids and you're doing this, and I know how 345 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: hard it is just for me to be doing these things. 346 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine an enti family, and you're someone who 347 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: is an entire family that made this swap. So what 348 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: has that process been like? Was there hard moments where 349 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: you're like, this is never going to work. 350 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a pretty good story about this. So 351 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: I at one point was extremely restrictive with them, like 352 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: very restrictive. We went to a birthday party and I 353 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: cannot till this day tell you which one of them 354 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: it was. I just can tell you they were both there. 355 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 2: My husband and I were both there. The kids were across. 356 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: There was a long table and they were like across 357 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: on the other side, and one of them had a 358 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: couple slices of pizza, which whatever, we hadn't one hundred 359 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: percent given up pizza, but they had I want to say, 360 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: two cupcakes and three or four cups of Hawaiian punch 361 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: and I wanted to die. I was like, what have 362 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: I done. That's when the light went on and I realized, 363 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 2: you cannot be overly restrictive with your kids because they 364 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: are going to go out, and they were going to 365 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: go ham and it's not going to be a good situation. 366 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: And so that's where I came up with becoming a 367 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: more informed eater. So we're making choices that are informed. 368 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: Does that mean that sometimes on our way to Disneyland 369 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: we pick up in an out burger? Yeah? Does it 370 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: mean that sometimes we run through Chick fil A or 371 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 2: maybe have pizza for dinner. Absolutely, we're making an informed choice. 372 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: But our overall diet and lifestyle eighty five to ninety 373 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: percent of it is food made it home that we 374 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: actually enjoy. My kids know when they need vegetables. They 375 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: go with my dad for a week every summer and 376 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: when my dad's just eat whatever you want here with Grandpa, right, 377 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: And he always says he's like, they're so good, Like 378 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: they know when they need vegetables. They know like when 379 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: they need fruit or whatever. But they come home and 380 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: they're like, I need like home cooked meals for the week. 381 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: Because my dad always takes them like they're eating out 382 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: a lot, Like they went down they went river rafting 383 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 2: last year for a week, so they were living in 384 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: the wild. Basically, I have just helped them become really 385 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: aware of their body. I started talking to them about Hey, 386 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: for instance, after that situation, I'm like, hey, you eat 387 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: a lot of cupcakes and juice and now you're in 388 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: the bathroom a lot. Do you think it has anything 389 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: to do with this? And so I helped them make 390 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: this connection between how food is making them feel so 391 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: that they can make the most informed choice wherever they are. 392 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: And it's really served myself and them really well because 393 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: at seventeen and fourteen, my girls they're not perfect, but 394 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: they make really good choices. 395 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're teaching them healthy options and healthy yeah, 396 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: and to your point, allowing them not to be restrictive 397 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: where if this happens, like you'll be okay and you'll 398 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: get back on track and it'll be fine. But you're 399 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: allowing that space for both of those things to happen. 400 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: One to have the information to do better and two 401 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: for the grace to be like, you're also living in 402 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 1: a world that this is what it is. 403 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly and to step into something. And no, my 404 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: youngest doesn't do dairy like ninety percent of the time, 405 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: but sometimes she wants ice. Sometimes she does want a 406 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: pizza when she's with her friends. She knows I'm gonna 407 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: eat this and I'm gonna be in the bathroom later. 408 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: That's her informed choice, and she's fully aware. She's not 409 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: walking around aimlessly, not aware of the fact that this 410 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 2: really does bother her. And I think that a lot 411 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: of people don't realize, like our job is to create 412 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: human beings, raise human beings that are able to go 413 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: out into the world and contribute to society and take 414 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: ownership for themselves. And that's really all I've ever wanted 415 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: to do for them, is just help them take ownership 416 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: for themselves, so they have to understand how food affects 417 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: their body. If you know they're gonna go out into 418 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: the world and be able to do. 419 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: That, yeah, absolutely, you're a great mom. I hope you 420 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: know that you probably don't think you're telling you of it. 421 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: That that's really cool and that's great information for them 422 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: as kids. I hope that for a lot of people 423 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: that they can start to have that. I'm so curious 424 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: now that you're on this other side of this entire journey, 425 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: and you feel like you're in a really good place. 426 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: You've gotten the extreme in now you found your balance, 427 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: you found what works. If you hadn't gone this route, Like, 428 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: how do you feel like your life would have been impacted? 429 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: Why do you feel like this was so important that 430 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: this switch happened. 431 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: If I hadn't made this choice. It makes me emotional 432 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: because when we had so we also I have a 433 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: twenty five year old stepdaughter as well, so my husband's 434 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: got a twenty five year old. We're very close. But 435 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: had we not, we had two kids at home. When 436 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: I had our oldest, the seventeen year old, and I'll 437 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: never forget, like our joints ached, his stomach had issues, 438 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: she wasn't pooping. I think I would be somebody who 439 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: was probably I wouldn't say morbidly obese. I'd probably be 440 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: obese number one, living with type two diabetes one hundred 441 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: percent at one hundred and ten percent, i'd be living 442 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 2: with type two diabetes. I think that our seventeen year 443 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: old would have had some serious gun crops. I don't know, 444 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: something maybe whatever could There's so many things. There's diverticulitis, 445 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: there's colitis, there's Crohn's disease. There's all kinds of different 446 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: gut issues. I definitely think that her gut would have 447 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: been compromised. I think that she might have type two 448 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: diabetes had not, because because I had type two diabetes, 449 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 2: it also runs she runs the chance of having it 450 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: as well. Plus it's genetics. There's a lot of genetics 451 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: for us. I don't know about Kendall, just because I've 452 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: always seen her. She's always her pregnancy was the easiest. 453 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: She's only ever eaten this way. So I'm not really sure, 454 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 2: but I do believe my husband would probably be like 455 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: morbidly obese. Definitely, he would probably have some sort of 456 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: health issues. Our moods, again, our joints were super achy. 457 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: I remember we used to say, is this is what 458 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: it's like to be eighty? Because this is awful. We 459 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: could barely step up. We had one step in our house, 460 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: and stepping on that just seemed so exhausting. And we 461 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: were only twenty five and twenty six. Wow, I think 462 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: we would be in our forties. We would be just tired, heavy, unmotivated. 463 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: We both have a lot of energy. I can't imagine 464 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: not having that. 465 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm sure it's hard to look back too 466 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: on your life and be like, we could have gone 467 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: a drastically different direction with this. And it's so important 468 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: because as you're talking about that, and you're talking about 469 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: your kids and them having kids, and you want to 470 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: be around for all of it. You want to be 471 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: part of it, not just hanging out in the background. 472 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: You want to be there and be active and be 473 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: part of that experience. And so often a lot of 474 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: people can't because of the choices that they made twenty 475 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: years prior. And you guys took the choice and made 476 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: the right one. And I think that's something that a 477 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: lot of people hope and wish to do for themselves. 478 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: I think so. I think a lot of people just 479 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: don't know where to start, or they're so sick and 480 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: tired that they don't know how to get out of 481 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: being sick and tired. It's just like they'll try a diet, 482 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: or they'll try the latest trend or some sort of supplement, 483 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: and that's not what works. It's really a step by 484 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: step journey that never ends that there's not an end goal. 485 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: It's not about getting on that diet and that just 486 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: magically fixing you. You have to be committed to a 487 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: lifelong journey. It's not. 488 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: And was that the hardest part for you? Guys? You 489 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: feel that it was a lifestyle change, Like when you 490 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: started it, you're like, Oh, I can't just do this 491 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: now because I'm pregnant, or because I'm going to be 492 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: pregnant again, or Okay, the gut health problems are gone, 493 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: we can go back to normal. When you're realizing as 494 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: each thing is happening, you're like, oh, yeah, this is 495 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: a lifestyle. This is for not just for right now. 496 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: Was that ever daunting at moments? 497 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: No? And the reason why it wasn't daunting is because 498 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: my husband and I felt so good that we were 499 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: scared to feel like crap. Makes sense, yep, Like we 500 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: already knew what it felt like to feel like crap, 501 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: and then we suddenly started feeling better, and it was like, 502 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: now I'm scared to eat that way because I don't 503 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: want to eat. I don't want to feel like crap. 504 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that we don't ever feel terrible, 505 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: if I'm being honest. Last weekend I felt absolutely terrible. 506 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: I think it was probably the weather. I'm very like 507 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: sensitive to the weather. But I was so tired and exhausted, 508 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: and I remember thinking like, I hope I'm not going 509 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: to feel like this for the rest of my life, 510 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: Like where did I go? What is going on? And 511 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: then I woke up this morning, I'm like, I feel 512 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: like a million bucks. It's sunny out. Like I did 513 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: everything I would normally do. I ate normal. I just 514 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: kept going and pushing and we just you're it's not 515 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: that you're never gonna have a moment again, it's just 516 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: you have to realize that feeling feeling good is way 517 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: better than feeling like crap, and let that lead you. 518 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you also created an elderbooths if I'm correct, Yes, okay, 519 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: And why did you create this product? What does it 520 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: help with? We're a part of this journey where you're like, oh, okay, 521 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: this needs to happen. 522 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: First of all, was starting to create electrolytes, and there 523 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: was an issue last summer with creating the electrolytes, and 524 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: so I told the manufacturer, I'm like, listen, the next 525 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: product that I wanted to try is more seasonal, right now, 526 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: so let's you know, let's actually just create that for now. 527 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: So we created the elderberry boost because I make elderberry 528 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: syrup every year and it has been life changing for us, 529 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: like my kids start getting sick or my husband starts 530 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: getting sick and I'm like, here you go, here you go. 531 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: But this was going to provide so many different things. 532 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: So not only was it going to provide freedom from 533 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: having to make elderberry syrup every week, which is time consuming, 534 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: it also is helpful in not just being a syrup, 535 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: like I can take it with me. It's in like 536 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: a small package. I would be able to take it 537 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: with me, other people would be able to take it 538 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: with them. But also I was able to add things 539 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: like chickory root fiber, which is really good for gut health, 540 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: which you need to foster when you're not feeling well 541 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 2: or when you're taking something to boost your immune system. 542 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: We didn't have any added sugars in there. There was 543 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: also some herbs like cloves and gar not garlic, ginger, 544 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: which all help with our gut health. And so it's 545 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: really interesting. So I created this. It did really well 546 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: in the fall and winter, and I feel like, right 547 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: now people think, oh, this is like an immunity booster. 548 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: I don't need it, and I'm like, no, you're going 549 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 2: to be traveling. You want to keep your immunity. You 550 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: really want to work on your immunity in spring and 551 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: summer so that when you hit fall, winter and early spring, 552 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: your immunity has been fostered all summer instead of just 553 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: letting it go down the dumps in the summertime and 554 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: then come fall you're trying to like ramp up your 555 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: immunity because you don't want to get sick, but instead 556 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: just keep it as a consistent thing. So it was 557 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: something that we could do year round because I didn't 558 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: really make elderberry syrup in the wintertime, I'm sorry, in 559 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: the summertime. And so it's just it tastes good. It's 560 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: like adding flavor to your water. So a lot of 561 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: different benefits for it. It helped with allergies, which my daughter's 562 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: taking it for right now. So it's just got a 563 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: wide range of benefits. 564 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: And when you were creating this, I know you mentioned 565 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: like the no added sugars and stuff like that. Were 566 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: you very careful and curated and how you created this 567 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: product because of how you live your life? 568 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted clean ingredients. It's really hard to find 569 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: a manufacturer also that will accept the fact that you 570 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: don't want to use natural flavors, gums, certain artificial sweeteners. 571 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: I was like, absolutely not. So that's why we ended 572 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: up on chickory root as a sweetener. Which one of 573 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: my favorite drinks used to be at Pete's Coffee and 574 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: it was the Black Tie and they used chickory root 575 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: to sweeten it. So it just came to me one day, 576 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, we're gonna have to use chickory root because 577 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: it adds fiber, two grams of fiber for a serving, 578 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: and I just wanted I wanted to make sure that 579 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: it was like clean and tasty. 580 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy to hear you say that about the manufacturers, 581 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: and it's hard to find that right there alone is 582 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: so much part of the problem people have to just 583 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: because I bet there's so many companies and products that 584 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: start out and have really good intentions and then you 585 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: just fall into this trap because of the way things 586 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: have been done and created that it just ends up 587 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: back to another product on the shelf that isn't good 588 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: for you. And that's crazy. I bet it's been a 589 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: wild experience for you being on the other side of 590 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: that to see Oh yeah, this is a very deep 591 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: down problem. This is beyond just what you're seeing on 592 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: the store shelves. 593 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: It really is like getting the other side of it 594 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: has been wild. I'm like, no wonder. Also, there's some 595 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: things that I've learned too that like maybe people don't 596 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: need to necessarily worry about. For instance, when I was 597 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: talking about electrolytes, with them having a lemon electrolyte, it 598 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: has to be dried with a certain agent, like it's 599 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 2: absolutely impossible to not do it with a gum agent, 600 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: but they use like one of the best gums that 601 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: you can use. But people have also been able to 602 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: away with not putting it on their packaging, which is 603 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: false labeling. And because I was like, how do these 604 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: companies get away with it? And he was like, they're 605 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: just not putting it on there, or they're putting an 606 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: asterisk at the bottom so people don't notice. And I'm like, 607 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is so eye opening because there's 608 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: some things you just can't get away from, and it's legitimate, 609 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: but you can get away from natural flavors or using 610 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: artificial sweeteners and things like that. 611 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: Is that the thing too, that because you see it 612 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: across the board online, like the these flavor profunds, these 613 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: the sweeteners, the oils are those just they're just so 614 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: bad They're horrible. 615 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: I don't like to demonize just because everybody's in a 616 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: different place in their journey, but I would say especially 617 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: so like the sweeteners. Yes, so ecy, sulfame, potassiums sou gloros, 618 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: terrible for your gut, absolutely terrible. Like I those are 619 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: a hard no for me. I'm like, I'm not going 620 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: to consume those now. The oils, do I try to 621 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: avoid them? Yes? But am I terrified of them? And 622 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: not ever? Like I still eat out so obviously whatever 623 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm eating is probably the solid dressing is probably one 624 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: of those oils. If you go to most restaurants, they're 625 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 2: going to cook in some of those oils. So do 626 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: I avoid them in my everyday life, yes, But should 627 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: we be running for the hills from them? We don't 628 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: need to. There was also a really huge study recently 629 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: done that actually nobody's really talking about, I think in 630 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: this space because it's so opposite of what we have 631 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: been saying, But like two hundred thousand people were followed 632 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: for over thirty years and it came back that those 633 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: who consumed small amounts of like canola oil actually had 634 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: healthier outcomes than those who were consistently eating butter. Now, 635 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: do I think there's nuance to this, Yes, but I 636 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: think that it does prove the point that a lot 637 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: of people are like, oh, stay away from the omega sixes, 638 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: and it's wait a minute, we do need those, we 639 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: just are consuming too many because we there was a 640 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: study done in like the seventies or I think it's 641 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: the seventies or early eighties, I can't remember where it 642 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: said conola oil is really good for you. What happened 643 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: we put it in every processed food possible, and so 644 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: now we're over consuming these oils when the study said 645 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: a tablespoon a day, and it's in everything, and it's 646 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: in everything, So now we're consuming like twelve tablespoons a day, 647 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: and so I'm one tablespoon. So that's why our inflammation 648 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: is off. And we do need omega sixes like you 649 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: actually need some. It's just that we are thrown so 650 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 2: off balance because we are over consuming ultra processed foods, 651 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. So yeah, so do I avoid 652 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: those oils? Yes? But am I like, oh my gosh, 653 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: I can't even eat out like some people do. No, 654 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 2: like I will eat a French fry, like I will 655 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: absolutely enjoy that, but I'm gonna go home and eat 656 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: my normal food. 657 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: Then Yeah. Yeah, it's all about balance, and you guys 658 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: have found that. Yeah, I'm so curious for someone who 659 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: is listening to this and I'm like, dang, I really 660 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: want to do this, but I am so overwhelmed and 661 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: this sounds scary and there's no way that I can 662 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: do this. What would you say to that person who's 663 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: sitting here. I want to do this, I want to 664 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: consider it, but also I'm gonna probably go to the 665 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: grocery store and still buy my safe stuff because it's 666 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: just easier. 667 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: I would just say start with one to three small things, 668 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: whether that's one to three ingredients that you're like, I 669 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: really want to get familiar with these three ingredients. And 670 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: it does take time in the beginning, Like typically in 671 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: the beginning of doing this, you're spending a lot of 672 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: time at the grocery store reading the ingredient labels and 673 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: like getting more familiar. But over time, if you think 674 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: about it, and you read this ingredient label and you're like, 675 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: this is a hard note for me, you put it back, 676 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: you never pick up that package again. You're not ever 677 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: gonna be so you just saved yourself the next time 678 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 2: you go. You're not going to be doing it now. 679 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that you know, if something's good, you 680 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: shouldn't read it every time. If I consistently buy this product, 681 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 2: I still read it every time, just as I'm putting 682 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: it in the cart, just to make sure nothing's changed. 683 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: So one, I would start with like one to three ingredients, 684 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: if that's your like it where you want to start. 685 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: If it's more, I just want to start cooking better 686 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: at home, or I want to start cooking more at 687 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 2: home than I would say, choose one, no more than 688 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: three new recipes for each week. Three's a lot. Typically 689 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: I say one to two, but one to three depending 690 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: on how ambitious you are. New recipes for the week 691 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 2: that are simple and easy under thirty minutes. It's like chicken, 692 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: broccoli rice. If you need something with more flavor or 693 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: more substance or something like that, find some recipes on 694 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: Pinterest or something. 695 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 1: But start with. 696 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 2: One or two new meals each week and start getting 697 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 2: comfortable with those, because really a lot of it has 698 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: to do with the fact that you're nervous about cooking 699 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: these meals because it's going to take time and it's exhausting, 700 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: and oh, this, that or the other. When your brain 701 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: learns that it wasn't actually that hard, your brain's more 702 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: likely to say, hey, let's make that again. It tasted good, 703 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: it did take that long, we feel better, Let's do that. 704 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: So just start with one or two things, no matter 705 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: what avenue you want to take. Don't try to go 706 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: all or nothing. Don't do the thirty day challenge where 707 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: you just rid everything and then because what happens after 708 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: thirty days you revert back. Yeah, I'm like, oh, now 709 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 2: I have freedom. Just start a journey, don't start a 710 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 2: destination type. 711 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: Something that shocked me when I was on your social 712 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: media pages was spices. I didn't know we had to 713 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: pay attention to this dink and spices. I was so shocked, 714 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: Like I was paid attended to everything else, and I 715 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: was looking on your page. I was like, cinnamon, are 716 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: you kidding me? I'm like, my whole body was just 717 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: like defeated in a way because I was just like, 718 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: because spices and things like that are how you make 719 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: some of these bland foods, it tastes a little bit better, 720 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: so you enjoy healthier faiths than things that you're cooking. 721 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: So what is the deal with spices, because that just 722 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: blew my mind. 723 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 2: I feel like spices are something that you think about, 724 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: like when you're further in your journey. If you're just 725 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 2: starting out, I would say, don't stress on the spices 726 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: quite yet. Let's take a step back. But spices a 727 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: they have some ingredients in them that you might not want, right. 728 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 2: So that's another hidden source of the oils, the industrial oils. 729 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: It's a hidden source of ingredients that might affect your thyroid. 730 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: It's also a hidden source of a lot of toxins. So, 731 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: like McCormick, a, as a society, this is probably longer 732 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 2: than you wanted. But as a society, we are consuming 733 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty percent more spice than we 734 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: were one hundred years ago or something like that. So 735 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: we're consuming a lot of spices now because we just 736 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 2: are obsessed with flavor, and that's a lot of times 737 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: because of artificial flavors and natural flavors, and so we're 738 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 2: adding a lot more into our diet. And so the 739 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: reason it becomes important is because a lot of these 740 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 2: spices do have high certain toxins. They're all different, just depending. 741 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: But we're also eating, like consuming cinnamon because we think 742 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: it's good for us, right, or like good for our 743 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 2: blood sugar. Regular like sigon cinnamon or cinnamon that's in 744 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: the store actually doesn't have any health benefits for your 745 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: blood sugar. It's actually selon cinnamon that has the health benefits. 746 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: But for all these years we've been told like, oh, 747 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 2: it's cinnamon, nobody was ever specific about it. It's actually 748 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: selan cinnamon is the one that you know has the benefits, 749 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: and it's also lower in toxins and things like that. 750 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: But also when you're dealing with plants and things like that, 751 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: they're growing in soil and things like that, and so 752 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: there are some things that are just going to be 753 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: in fruits, vegetables, herbs, things like that, and our body 754 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: is able to excrete those because we are consuming fibers. 755 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: So when you consume herbs, fruits, vegetables, and we are 756 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 2: excreting those. So, yeah, spices are extremely important. I would 757 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 2: definitely buy organic. I would definitely make sure that you're 758 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: buying organic if you can. And then the best quality 759 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: consumer Reports has done it I think twice. Now I 760 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: could be wrong, but they've done it twice now when 761 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 2: I trust them. Simply Organic has been like number one 762 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 2: every single time, and they aren't expensive. But Wolf Foods 763 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 2: has really good sales sometimes and they're pretty darn cheap 764 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 2: when they do the stance. 765 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: Okay, row tip right there. I'm so glad I remember 766 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: to ask you that, because it just blew my mind, 767 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: and it should have. At this point where I'm at 768 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: in my journey of changing everything over, nothing really shocks 769 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: me anymore. But somehow I still find moments where I'm like, 770 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: dang it, I didn't think of that part. 771 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but again, like if you're not gonna go 772 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: out to a restaurant, be. 773 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 3: Like, oh you don't use those right, Yeah, That's what 774 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, depending on where if this is like 775 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 3: the last part, like when you had asked me about 776 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 3: where to start or whatever, I definitely wouldn't start with spices. 777 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: I think the bigger problems than spices, Like I would 778 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: start somewhere else first. 779 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again all about balance for sure. But yeah, 780 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: Also it's really important to have these conversations because it'll 781 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: allows us to be a little bit more open minded 782 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: and just more informed in question, a little bit more 783 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: about what's going on with our bodies and what's going 784 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: inside of them. 785 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. 786 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: This is how I end my podcast. But a piece 787 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: of advice, thought or just a topic that maybe we 788 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: didn't get to, but something that you really hope for 789 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,479 Speaker 1: people that they take away at the end of the day, 790 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: if it's only this is what they take away. 791 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 2: I think just to lead with intent you want to 792 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: create a healthier lifestyle, lead in that way. Start leading 793 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: your life in that way, even if that's just one stuff, 794 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 2: even if that's just eating one solid day, even if 795 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: that's just starting to eat breakfast, even if that's just 796 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,479 Speaker 2: starting to drink more water. Just start leading that way 797 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 2: and start telling yourself like I am, I lead a 798 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: healthy lifestyle. I lead a healthy lifestyle because I love it. 799 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: I lead a healthy lifestyle because I want to feel good. 800 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 2: Instead of putting yourself through something that's riddled with guilt 801 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 2: or riddled with rules and expectations, find what's important to 802 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 2: you and start leading your life that way. 803 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: I love that, and that's a perfect way for us 804 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: to end on. Tasha, thank you so much for joining me. 805 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: Sharing your story and being here and all the expertise 806 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: and knowledge you've learned over the years. It's really great 807 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: to talk with you. 808 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. This has been fun. 809 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: Whether it was a topic of spices, or the healthy 810 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: but not so healthy swaps, or how to detoxify your 811 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: life in so many different ways. I hope you were 812 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: able to take something from this episode that can help 813 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: you on your own healing and health and wellness journey, 814 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: because I know I'm currently on it, and as always, 815 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. Make sure you subscribe wherever 816 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: you're listening to this podcast because we have some fun 817 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: episodes coming up, and go follow the Instagram page at 818 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 1: take this Personally. I'll talk to you guys next week. 819 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: Bye.