WEBVTT - The 8Ball & MJG Episode 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.800 Get get no boys, it's back and rehoaded all in 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.520 your mind. Yeah and now deep throating. This is for 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.480 the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the disenfranchise, the truth, 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.520 the scapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.040 so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.960 South East coat g b my keeping your head bobbing 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.120 it ain't no stopping and wants to be try head 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.079 by then the system is so corrupt they throw the 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.360 rock out of their heads and then blame it on us. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.640 Don't get it twisted on code and we ain't dancing 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:39.640 for no buttment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.200 in the building. Collectively, we are to get old boys 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.520 reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.159 you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the 0:00:50.240 --> 0:01:02.880 studio eight ball and m J G. Yeah, ain't this jet? 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:12.240 Are you guys are collective? Will? What do you do 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:16.959 for your birthday? Oh? Man? What did I do? I 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.280 just I just hung out? Man? You know what I did? 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:24.680 I went, I went, I went to grid Park. I 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.800 did not get a hair cut, because listen, what I 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:33.399 have here is is natural cuts. You ever heard natural cuts? 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:37.960 That's right? So basically, you know you you the way 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.319 your DNA works, My DNA works is that my hat 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.039 don't grow for a month and then I cut it 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.399 and then for a whole another month. It's stays like this. 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.000 Everything no kind of like my bank no growth the 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:56.559 win bank accounts. Oh good, oh you November one? Yeah, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.480 so so man, thank you man. So here's what happened. Man. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:06.600 You know, I went to grib Park with some family, 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.600 you know, some close friends. And grib Park is a 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:16.440 is a food truck park, right, That's where I went. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.800 They want to take me to a restaurant. We go 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.280 anywhere you want to go, anywhere you want to go, 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.520 any restaurant, your favorite restaurant. I said. You know what, man, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.800 I been wanted to try this, This food truck called 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:31.600 o MG. They make these uh potatoes, stuffed potatoes with 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.560 with seafood, yeah, lobster and shrimp. You know I can't 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.520 eat you can't. We're not we're not talking about you 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.519 were talking about. We're talking about me. What I wanted 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.760 to talk about your birthday, what I wanted for my birthday. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:44.880 But you know what, my people are treating me to 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.600 you know that. But it was beautiful. Man. So you 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.880 had a baked potato for your birthday? Sweet? Yeah, I 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.240 had a baked baked potato from my birthday and some 0:02:53.320 --> 0:03:01.040 cool leg Yeah was a great. Yeah, that's great. It 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.600 was great. Yeah, you can't go. I can't go without 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:09.400 the great. So I've been on the road. Excuse me. Yeah, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:11.560 so I've been on the road with eight ball m 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.320 j G for the past five years. Like, yeah, I 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.919 watched eight ball transformation. He went from big ball to 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:25.880 little ball, a little bigger ball. I'll be fluxu waiting. Man. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:28.520 First he was on that I ain't eating no meat 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.240 still on that, man, and it's going to be three 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.080 years no ship. I just started back even fish like 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.480 three months ago. Maybe, Yeah, I told you that day. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.240 Man inspired me that day. You'd be cool with the fish. Man. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.920 Just don't go back to the red meat. Oh definitely. Yeah. Yeah. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.200 I don't even think about it no more, Like it's 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.760 not even a second. I'd be smelling good good. I'd 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:58.320 be like, I don't have a second talk. Yeah, you 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.560 know what I do. Man. When I gave up real meat, Man, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.800 I just started. I just thought I would just eat 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.440 something and make sure you eat something before you go 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.280 to visit people. Don't go on an empty stomach to 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.480 visit people, because then you'll eat whatever they have available. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.719 So that's why I used to do that a lot, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:22.600 Like take the pepperoni off the pizza. If it's just pepperonia, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:33.000 eat the just the cheese. I used to do that. Yeah, 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:39.200 so that's my that's my eight ball story. Yeah, bellies normal. Yeah, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:47.480 my ship. Uncle used to got the bel of normal. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:53.040 He put my ass into that, put my ass through 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.839 a wall. I ain't working with you, and actually turned 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:00.240 me onto a record that I hid from everybody when 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.320 I used to go to the store, to the record store, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.240 and every time I've seen him, I buy him all 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.680 because I didn't want nobody to have it. Yeah, it 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.839 was Marvin Gaye Here my dear, best fucking album I 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.360 ever heard in my life, and I did not want 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.120 I was selfish with that album. I did not want 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.320 nobody here that ship. I didn't want nobody to hear it. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:22.280 It was like Morven Gay's wife there something would say 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.800 it was selfish and his wife was unselfish when he 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.760 gave up that album because he gave it to her 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:34.000 as a part of the Yeah, that's the best album 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.120 Marvin Gay mm a bro because he was man. That 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.480 ship was cold blooded. Man. Thank you for turning me 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:45.320 on the pleasure. That's probably man, he turned me onto 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.839 that ship. Man. Let's get close to the beginning, man, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.520 because it's hard to have this conversation without, first of all, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.680 like setting the foundation, you know, like, how did you 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:01.000 guys meet? First and foremost? Oh? Man? Just man? Back 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:09.520 at school? Rich wrong? Yep? Seven grade seven grade man? Okay, 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.559 it was in classes together and just y'all started rapping, 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.880 gravitated towards each other some candada. So was it like 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.000 a day one the moment you guys linked, you know, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.320 first time you met, you asked, my dude, many good dude. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.760 That's a good dude. Y'all just clicked. Did it take 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.200 some time? It was over time? Yeah, it was. It 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.760 was instant, but it was like it I think when 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.200 we found out how close we stayed to each other, 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.640 the proximity in the neighborhood. Had a fight, and then 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.400 it was I had to fight against each other one 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:49.919 time we had a little lock up one. Yeah, I 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.719 love it. We've been mad at hell at each other, 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.120 wanted to fight but at one time, man, we might 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:02.480 have been checking in class. Uh. He said something about 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:08.680 my shoes I had these nia were pro wings and 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.320 you know when them johns getting old, they get hard 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.200 from he was bad. He got me by my shoes. Bad. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.640 I got him about his hero bad. Teacher was out 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:25.400 the room, had a little out rouh. Yeah, we jumped 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.480 up and locked up everybody. Well then the teacher was 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:33.880 right back in the room. So yeah, that's pretty goddamn good. Man. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:39.880 Has anybody ever left the group? Um? No, man really 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.320 left the group as far as me and him, Yeah, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.000 really left the group. He been didn't get a boy. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:50.640 He leave to win, said in front of the beginning. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:56.880 I ain't playing the whole game, man, I had to 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.600 leave for my mental health. Man, you can understand that 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.080 I got ship. I got in that. So so tell us, man, 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.400 how was it like growing up in uh Orange Mountain? 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:12.280 Orange Mountain, Memphis, right neighborhood? What's that that's the neighborhood? Yeah? 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.640 How how was it like growing up there? Oh? Man, 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.520 it was something special, man, you know because Orange Mound 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.920 is like a town. Man, it's like a town. Uh. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:30.720 It's all like the second largest Uh, neighborhood to Harlem 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:37.360 and uh, the first neighborhood uh uh in America built 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:42.280 um for black folks and all black black people, by 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:48.080 black people for black people. Right. Yeah, they bought it. 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.160 It was an orange grove, you know, I hate that. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:56.720 I can't remember exactly who it was they bought it. Yeah, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.040 but they bought it. It was an orange grove. And 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.280 then they made these plots for black people to own 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.520 their own. I think they started out with like fifty 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:10.400 shotgun houses and uh, and it just grew. I heard 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:15.360 that the original state site was a plantation. Yeah, damn, 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.800 well that's that's all the southern reasons you want to 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.760 say that. But yeah, yeah, but a lot of that 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.200 area and there it was filled with plantations. You know. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.960 That's that's just recorded. But the Memphis area, I think 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.439 Caryonville and all that, are they trying to gentrify Orange 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:39.480 Mound right now? It is white people more out there. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:50.280 It is is still like yeah, they're trying to bleed. Yeah, 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.600 I know, and they're doing it there. I'm sure everything 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:57.360 that touches and and and and Orange Mound touches. We 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:03.199 we eached up that and and we so have they 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:08.280 started buying an Orange Mountain. Have you guys purchased them 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:16.480 land out there? Hey, buy that ship? Yeah, because a 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.560 lot of people is hurrying up and buying it all 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.480 like in Bok they're not really looking and they're paying 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.520 over price for stuff. If you want a hunt it 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.240 for this they give you and to give it to 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:34.800 me right now and yeah and then that don't live there. 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:41.000 You know, you really gotta have um the resources. Yeah, 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:48.040 not just money, but the resources. Yeah, the resources, the connections, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:53.320 the access because like my kids, mom was trying to 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.920 get me to buy like landing fifth Ward and in 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.120 Midtown before it took off. Baby, this is back. You 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.080 could buy a whole damn near city block in Midtown 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.160 for a million dollars. That's not that it was way 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:13.320 cheaper than that will here. Well, I'm telling you, I'm 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.000 talking about a host. I'm talking about the block, the 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:19.480 block grass Hun, I'm talking about the whole block. Yeah 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:25.200 it was, it was, Yeah, but in any event, we 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.600 know that was considered considerably lower than what it is now. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.680 The same thing with Fifth Ward. I mean I remember 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.440 those plots, those lots back in the day when when 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.760 I was you know, just getting real money we're talking 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.320 for a lot, and that that same lot would run 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.680 you two hundred and three hundred thousand dollars. And they're 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.920 doing this in every city. Yeah, you know, America is 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.320 is a cookie cutter country. You living anyone in America 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.360 and you're living in the hood, make sure you buy 0:11:55.400 --> 0:12:00.560 that all that ship, buy it all by all, patch 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.800 up and just buy all that ship. Yeah. We we 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.080 work with people, man, you know that that do that though. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.360 So it's people that like uh that's involved with like 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.400 our beard, the cat that owned the brewery that bruise 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:23.920 our beard, and a couple of others like okay them 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.920 cash and a couple of other like black business owners man, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.280 And they do a lot as far as trying to 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.440 get you know, get people like us and others that 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.560 don't have the resources the connections to get you in 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.200 a position. You know. You know, they often say that 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.880 fortune favors the brave, but it also favors the insight 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.680 for the ones who have visions. Because I did not 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.160 have that vision. Had I had the vision, oh it 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.080 would be it would be over. You know, just ask, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:57.960 just ask. Back in the day, I was in New 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.240 York with Chuck Dick damn. We were at a fight 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.640 and Chuck said to me, Willie, they got this thing 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:11.240 called the Internet, hm, and it's gonna be big. He said, 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.480 ten years, half the households in America is going to 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:21.640 have computers. Now I'm thinking to myself, well, I have 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.840 the money and I don't even have a computer. How 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.920 is that gonna happen? But it's Chuck d something giving 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.560 him the benefit of the doubt that he knows what 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.280 he's talking about. I just can't understand it. Right then 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.839 he told me that we're gonna be getting our mail 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.120 through our computers. I was He's like, We're gonna be 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.400 getting the mail, you know, through computer, And I'm trying 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.160 to think physical How you gonna have physical mail come through? 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:51.320 He was talking about email. Chuck told me about the 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:56.800 Internet now, and I'm thinking to myself, after it blows up, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.280 it took less than ten years, so I'm thinking it 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.400 was more like five years or so three four three 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.720 or four years or something like that. So I'm like, 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.560 so after that, I started thinking to myself, Man, I 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.640 was like, man, had I jumped on that? If I 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.680 would have just taken a leap of faith and jumped 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:20.040 on it, what could my life have been like financially? 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.320 Perhaps I would have started the Internet company with ten 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.840 thousand dollars and so my internet company a few years 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.320 later for a hundred million dollars like Mark Cuban did, 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.480 and maybe i'd be the owner of the Dallas Mavericks. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.880 But I didn't have the vision. So I promised myself 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:43.080 after that I would have a better I would be 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:47.960 open two new ideas and at least do my research 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:53.720 before I eliminate the idea of doing it, pursuing it 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.320 or not right, because because at first I was just like, 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.920 I can't, I can't, I can't figure it out. I can't, 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.440 I can't understand it, and I just leave it right there. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.960 It just dies right there. Now, when I hear something, 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.200 I look into it first, Let me at least look 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:11.480 into it. I found myself when when cryptocurrency came around, 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.280 I found myself doing the same thing. I didn't catch 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:19.280 my snap. Well, Buddy kept calling me saying, will will 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.400 check out this big corn check it out, check it out, 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.480 it's going, it's going to going. And finally I caught 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:28.400 my snap and I jumped on big corn. At I 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.160 jumped on and then I hit and then I reinvested 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.720 in those corn and some other coins and from there, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.640 you know, I just been off to the races. But 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:43.640 I said that to say, you have to have the 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:50.760 fortune favors the visionaries, you know, you got to have 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.920 that vision. And just like with real estate, you're not. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.560 You don't make your money when you know, with the news. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.240 You make your money with the rumor. Right, So when 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.000 as a rumor it's going down, it's about to go down, 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.760 that's when you need to be on. Like, that's when 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.760 I should have been on with my kid's mom said, hey, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.320 you need to get on this room. It's gonna come. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.080 It's it's coming, it's coming. I waited till the news came, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:20.840 and then by that time the land was so now 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.320 any land that I make a move on. Now, I'm 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.280 looking at twenty years down the line, what it might 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.640 look like thirty years down the line, you know, because 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.880 you gotta be willing to plant seeds that you may 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:37.840 not eat from, you may never see. Yeah, ready to 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.120 lose that. Well, it's your legacy. It's for you, you know, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.400 it's for the people are after you. You know, that's 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.280 how you gotta look at it, you know, especially at 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.760 the age week. You know, you know thirty or four 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:54.480 year plans. You know that's for your family. Yeah, y'all 0:16:54.520 --> 0:17:01.520 had y'all first underground UH tape was called listen to 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.640 the lyrics, right, So then y'all hit y'all hit him 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:08.760 with listen to the lyrics, and then y'all back door 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:13.520 that with your first commercial album, UH coming out hard. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.719 So y'all said, y'all first told him listen to the lyrics, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.440 then y'all said, we're coming out hard. And then y'all 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.560 found yourself on outside looking in, and then you came 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.720 back with U on top of the world. You're on 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.840 top of the world. If you listen just the first 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:35.320 three albums, if you you know, including the Underground, if 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:39.119 you if you listen to that, it tells a story 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:44.320 really about your careers, right if you really listen to it. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:49.760 Because you guys are like you're you're, you're you're you're 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:55.040 very successful, you're accomplished, but you're your low key stars. 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.440 How do you manage to be under the radar still 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:05.280 going to the respect of your peers Because we respect 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:10.200 y'all and everybody that I know that understands this game, 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:18.680 respect and its mutual musical. It's musical, yeah, real man, 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:23.600 We just I don't know, man, we just gotta say 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:29.840 we just try hard at being ourselves, you know, because 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:31.800 you know, man, it's hard to keep an echo. Man. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:38.480 You know, man, it's hard. Remember that song we did, 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:44.240 yeah he was on. I think it's on. It's onshing 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:53.159 the bank. Yeah. Yeah. With us being ourselves all the time, yeah, 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.800 it hurt you in some circles that help you. I 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.080 can relate to that, yeah, you know. But always, you know, 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.800 the fans appreciate that. We always just kind of be us. 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.080 We stopped and take pictures, you know, you know, just 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:13.480 keep it regularly and we when the we a lot 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:17.040 of groups perform and deal, you know, do that stuff. Man, 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.040 we out of here may and g sometimes stay to 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:21.960 the lights, come on, man, you know what I mean. 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:29.640 Just stuff like that and just being us man, you know, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.920 never change and kind of you know, trying to show 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.639 the human side. Basically, how did y'all connect with Tony Draper? 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.920 Oh man? Through mutual friends? Um friends that we knew 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.600 that we went to school with, that he knew, and 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.560 you know, and they put us together. They listened to 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.960 the lyrics was out you know that came out. We 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.879 was in the twelfth grade. Um it came out that 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:04.680 summer or yeah that's something. Uh and uh it just 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.159 it was one of them songs like they used to 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.520 have a little slam of the jamming type of things 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:14.440 and the gym man they played on the dumping. It 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:18.040 might have played for like two hundred Knights on the 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.919 row or something like that, like we want like for 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.040 some months, like you know, every night it would be 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.919 our song. You know, man, how was that? Man? How 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:31.600 did that make y'all feel? No? Ship was crazy. We 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.119 were still a lot of actions. Were still catching the 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:38.080 bus man and I was catching the women too. That 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:44.240 it was always us, you know, like we always mean uh, 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:49.600 having having a having at least a local hit, don't 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:56.880 hurt it most definitely uh solfing the side of not 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:01.680 having no money yet were a little broke kids. Yeah, 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.920 you know we were still some little just some little 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.760 broke kids. Man. We was cool with uh skipper school 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.320 was a couple of chicks and smokers and weeds somewhere. 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:17.240 But people looked at us as this you know, yeah, time, 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:28.000 but it was you know, at what point do you 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:34.280 meet Tony? What this like ninety two, something like the 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.880 ninety it maybe in between that time. Do you remember 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.080 the first day that you met him, what that was like, 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:45.600 like what happened? What was said? Um, generally, you know, 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.520 he was letting us know that he liked the music 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:54.760 already and he was familiar with the music, and uh, 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:58.439 he was gonna be staying in touch with us, and 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:03.320 uh he had plans on doing something with his label 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:07.440 and getting us to Houston. And I know he generally 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:11.240 said that in the first meeting. And because it was 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:15.160 just a bunch of like ome boy kicking it, him 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:19.200 and our mutual partner come scoop us. You know, they 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:23.120 had all the cars and stuff. Then you know they 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.920 had the paper you know, paper draper they had, and 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.680 so they came scoop us up and take us places 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.280 and we hang out with them, and you know, in 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.840 between and then just it was like it was October thirteen, 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:40.080 but I never get um the week before that or 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.720 something like that, he asked us, was we ready to 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.480 be ready? I'm gonna get the tickets, y'all. Come on, 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.360 the first time we flew in everything, we had never 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:50.760 been on an airplane before. You know, it was my 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:53.960 MoMA birthday. I never get their part. We was leaving 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:58.720 on her birthday. So, but first time flying and everything 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:04.879 came down the Agetown posted up. So yeah, so who 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.240 was first? Who was first? Was it was it? You 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.879 guys are tealer on Suave House? Yeah, so you guys 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:17.720 was the flagship group? Well it was it was he 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:21.960 had a group. Uh it was thorough and your board 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:30.399 Now uh he had a group before us, uh smooth smooth. 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.119 Yeah yeah, he had a group before us and then 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.840 group that was his out of Houston. Yeah, yeah, that 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:45.920 was his, like that was the that was just project 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:50.119 and doing the independent label. Yeah. Well who who did 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:54.680 distribution for you when your album came up? Uh? Back 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.359 then it was probably Southwest and uh not coming out 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:05.080 hard h that was Phillips New really and select them select, 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:12.439 I don't know select in South Wales News. Let me 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:18.080 ask you another question, like being artists on a label 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:24.040 back then and then looking at as an artist right now, 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.520 how is accounting? Are you being accounted to? You know, 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.679 are you getting your publishing, your writers and all of 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:34.240 that ship or is it's just one bit clusterfuck saying 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.520 now right now? Are you getting all of your ship 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:46.040 from back then it kind of is on that accounted to. Yeah, 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:50.359 we've gone a whole bunch back the last like the 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:54.199 first ten years after we left squall, we've done a 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:58.399 whole bunch and we all were still only on a 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:04.600 percentage of that stuff. Does it interest you to go 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:11.240 back and get the rest of that publishing Yeah, working, working, Yeah, 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:18.480 we feel like, you know, it's, um, we should have 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.439 that now because other people have had it for us 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:27.679 so long that don't let us at least die with it. 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:33.840 But you know, I mean that publishing company, he's still 0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:39.760 got injuries in it, I do believe. UM. So it's 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:43.240 a um, a statute or a law or whatever you 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:46.320 wanna call it. That's set up right now. It's been 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:53.399 said up since like seventy two artists. So make sure 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.760 that you you know, from the time your album, from 0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:01.679 the time that album comes out until the thirty year period, Man, 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.840 get your ship back, you know what I mean. That's 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.000 the only way we talked about it all that. Yeah, 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:09.719 that's the only way we're gonna have some money when 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.760 it's ship back. Talk about it all the time, and 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:17.120 that's why Congress cut the deal. Yeah, I think that's 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.320 I mean, you know, I mean, if that's that's what 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.880 the law is, and that's what the law, ain't nothing 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.399 we're making up with the law. If that's what the 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.440 law say, that's only right. But I don't think that's 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.600 the only way that we're gonna have some money. I 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.800 think we need to diversify. Man. I want to be 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:36.680 paid from from from from recording. I want to be paid. 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.480 I want to be paid from this job. You know 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:41.560 what I mean. It's like going to going working at 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.639 McDonald You work all that time and you don't get 0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.600 paid until thirty five years later. You want to be 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.959 paid for for working this job right here first? All right, 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:55.119 I think it diversified back in ninety three, I've been diversified, 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.640 but I still won't get paid from this job. Well 0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:59.399 that's good, I mean you should. You should be paid 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.920 for me any job that you put in work. Uh, 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.600 you know, honest day's work for honest days pay. But 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.320 I but I you know, as a businessman also, I'm 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.800 on both sides just like you, as a businessman and 0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.680 you know, as somebody who has been a label exact 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.439 and as an artist for most of my life, I 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.359