1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Get get no boys, it's back and rehoaded all in 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah and now deep throating. This is for 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the disenfranchise, the truth, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: the scapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: South East coat g b my keeping your head bobbing 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: it ain't no stopping and wants to be try head 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: by then the system is so corrupt they throw the 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: rock out of their heads and then blame it on us. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted on code and we ain't dancing 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: for no buttment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: in the building. Collectively, we are to get old boys 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: reloaded with another episode of information and instructions to help 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in the 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: studio eight ball and m J G. Yeah, ain't this jet? 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Are you guys are collective? Will? What do you do 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: for your birthday? Oh? Man? What did I do? I 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: just I just hung out? Man? You know what I did? 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: I went, I went, I went to grid Park. I 20 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: did not get a hair cut, because listen, what I 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: have here is is natural cuts. You ever heard natural cuts? 22 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: That's right? So basically, you know you you the way 23 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: your DNA works, My DNA works is that my hat 24 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: don't grow for a month and then I cut it 25 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: and then for a whole another month. It's stays like this. 26 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Everything no kind of like my bank no growth the 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: win bank accounts. Oh good, oh you November one? Yeah, 28 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: so so man, thank you man. So here's what happened. Man. 29 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: You know, I went to grib Park with some family, 30 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, some close friends. And grib Park is a 31 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: is a food truck park, right, That's where I went. 32 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: They want to take me to a restaurant. We go 33 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: anywhere you want to go, anywhere you want to go, 34 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: any restaurant, your favorite restaurant. I said. You know what, man, 35 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: I been wanted to try this, This food truck called 36 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: o MG. They make these uh potatoes, stuffed potatoes with 37 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: with seafood, yeah, lobster and shrimp. You know I can't 38 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: eat you can't. We're not we're not talking about you 39 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: were talking about. We're talking about me. What I wanted 40 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: to talk about your birthday, what I wanted for my birthday. 41 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: But you know what, my people are treating me to 42 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: you know that. But it was beautiful. Man. So you 43 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: had a baked potato for your birthday? Sweet? Yeah, I 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: had a baked baked potato from my birthday and some 45 00:02:53,320 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: cool leg Yeah was a great. Yeah, that's great. It 46 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, you can't go. I can't go without 47 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: the great. So I've been on the road. Excuse me. Yeah, 48 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: so I've been on the road with eight ball m 49 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: j G for the past five years. Like, yeah, I 50 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: watched eight ball transformation. He went from big ball to 51 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: little ball, a little bigger ball. I'll be fluxu waiting. Man. 52 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: First he was on that I ain't eating no meat 53 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: still on that, man, and it's going to be three 54 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: years no ship. I just started back even fish like 55 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: three months ago. Maybe, Yeah, I told you that day. 56 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Man inspired me that day. You'd be cool with the fish. Man. 57 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: Just don't go back to the red meat. Oh definitely. Yeah. Yeah. 58 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't even think about it no more, Like it's 59 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: not even a second. I'd be smelling good good. I'd 60 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: be like, I don't have a second talk. Yeah, you 61 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: know what I do. Man. When I gave up real meat, Man, 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: I just started. I just thought I would just eat 63 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: something and make sure you eat something before you go 64 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: to visit people. Don't go on an empty stomach to 65 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: visit people, because then you'll eat whatever they have available. 66 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: So that's why I used to do that a lot, 67 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: Like take the pepperoni off the pizza. If it's just pepperonia, 68 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: eat the just the cheese. I used to do that. Yeah, 69 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: so that's my that's my eight ball story. Yeah, bellies normal. Yeah, 70 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: my ship. Uncle used to got the bel of normal. 71 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: He put my ass into that, put my ass through 72 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: a wall. I ain't working with you, and actually turned 73 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: me onto a record that I hid from everybody when 74 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: I used to go to the store, to the record store, 75 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: and every time I've seen him, I buy him all 76 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: because I didn't want nobody to have it. Yeah, it 77 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: was Marvin Gaye Here my dear, best fucking album I 78 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: ever heard in my life, and I did not want 79 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I was selfish with that album. I did not want 80 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: nobody here that ship. I didn't want nobody to hear it. 81 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: It was like Morven Gay's wife there something would say 82 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: it was selfish and his wife was unselfish when he 83 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: gave up that album because he gave it to her 84 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: as a part of the Yeah, that's the best album 85 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: Marvin Gay mm a bro because he was man. That 86 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: ship was cold blooded. Man. Thank you for turning me 87 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: on the pleasure. That's probably man, he turned me onto 88 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: that ship. Man. Let's get close to the beginning, man, 89 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: because it's hard to have this conversation without, first of all, 90 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: like setting the foundation, you know, like, how did you 91 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: guys meet? First and foremost? Oh? Man? Just man? Back 92 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: at school? Rich wrong? Yep? Seven grade seven grade man? Okay, 93 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 1: it was in classes together and just y'all started rapping, 94 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: gravitated towards each other some candada. So was it like 95 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: a day one the moment you guys linked, you know, 96 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: first time you met, you asked, my dude, many good dude. 97 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: That's a good dude. Y'all just clicked. Did it take 98 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: some time? It was over time? Yeah, it was. It 99 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: was instant, but it was like it I think when 100 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: we found out how close we stayed to each other, 101 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: the proximity in the neighborhood. Had a fight, and then 102 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: it was I had to fight against each other one 103 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: time we had a little lock up one. Yeah, I 104 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: love it. We've been mad at hell at each other, 105 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: wanted to fight but at one time, man, we might 106 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: have been checking in class. Uh. He said something about 107 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: my shoes I had these nia were pro wings and 108 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: you know when them johns getting old, they get hard 109 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: from he was bad. He got me by my shoes. Bad. 110 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: I got him about his hero bad. Teacher was out 111 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: the room, had a little out rouh. Yeah, we jumped 112 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: up and locked up everybody. Well then the teacher was 113 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: right back in the room. So yeah, that's pretty goddamn good. Man. 114 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Has anybody ever left the group? Um? No, man really 115 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: left the group as far as me and him, Yeah, 116 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: really left the group. He been didn't get a boy. 117 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: He leave to win, said in front of the beginning. 118 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: I ain't playing the whole game, man, I had to 119 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: leave for my mental health. Man, you can understand that 120 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I got ship. I got in that. So so tell us, man, 121 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: how was it like growing up in uh Orange Mountain? 122 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Orange Mountain, Memphis, right neighborhood? What's that that's the neighborhood? Yeah? 123 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: How how was it like growing up there? Oh? Man, 124 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: it was something special, man, you know because Orange Mound 125 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: is like a town. Man, it's like a town. Uh. 126 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: It's all like the second largest Uh, neighborhood to Harlem 127 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: and uh, the first neighborhood uh uh in America built 128 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: um for black folks and all black black people, by 129 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: black people for black people. Right. Yeah, they bought it. 130 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: It was an orange grove, you know, I hate that. 131 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly who it was they bought it. Yeah, 132 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: but they bought it. It was an orange grove. And 133 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: then they made these plots for black people to own 134 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: their own. I think they started out with like fifty 135 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: shotgun houses and uh, and it just grew. I heard 136 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: that the original state site was a plantation. Yeah, damn, 137 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: well that's that's all the southern reasons you want to 138 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: say that. But yeah, yeah, but a lot of that 139 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: area and there it was filled with plantations. You know. 140 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: That's that's just recorded. But the Memphis area, I think 141 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: Caryonville and all that, are they trying to gentrify Orange 142 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: Mound right now? It is white people more out there. 143 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: It is is still like yeah, they're trying to bleed. Yeah, 144 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: I know, and they're doing it there. I'm sure everything 145 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: that touches and and and and Orange Mound touches. We 146 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: we eached up that and and we so have they 147 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: started buying an Orange Mountain. Have you guys purchased them 148 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: land out there? Hey, buy that ship? Yeah, because a 149 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: lot of people is hurrying up and buying it all 150 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: like in Bok they're not really looking and they're paying 151 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: over price for stuff. If you want a hunt it 152 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: for this they give you and to give it to 153 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: me right now and yeah and then that don't live there. 154 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: You know, you really gotta have um the resources. Yeah, 155 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: not just money, but the resources. Yeah, the resources, the connections, 156 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: the access because like my kids, mom was trying to 157 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: get me to buy like landing fifth Ward and in 158 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: Midtown before it took off. Baby, this is back. You 159 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: could buy a whole damn near city block in Midtown 160 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: for a million dollars. That's not that it was way 161 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: cheaper than that will here. Well, I'm telling you, I'm 162 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: talking about a host. I'm talking about the block, the 163 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: block grass Hun, I'm talking about the whole block. Yeah 164 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: it was, it was, Yeah, but in any event, we 165 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: know that was considered considerably lower than what it is now. 166 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: The same thing with Fifth Ward. I mean I remember 167 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: those plots, those lots back in the day when when 168 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: I was you know, just getting real money we're talking 169 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: for a lot, and that that same lot would run 170 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: you two hundred and three hundred thousand dollars. And they're 171 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: doing this in every city. Yeah, you know, America is 172 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: is a cookie cutter country. You living anyone in America 173 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: and you're living in the hood, make sure you buy 174 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: that all that ship, buy it all by all, patch 175 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: up and just buy all that ship. Yeah. We we 176 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: work with people, man, you know that that do that though. 177 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: So it's people that like uh that's involved with like 178 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: our beard, the cat that owned the brewery that bruise 179 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: our beard, and a couple of others like okay them 180 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: cash and a couple of other like black business owners man, 181 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: And they do a lot as far as trying to 182 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: get you know, get people like us and others that 183 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: don't have the resources the connections to get you in 184 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: a position. You know. You know, they often say that 185 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: fortune favors the brave, but it also favors the insight 186 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: for the ones who have visions. Because I did not 187 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: have that vision. Had I had the vision, oh it 188 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: would be it would be over. You know, just ask, 189 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: just ask. Back in the day, I was in New 190 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: York with Chuck Dick damn. We were at a fight 191 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: and Chuck said to me, Willie, they got this thing 192 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: called the Internet, hm, and it's gonna be big. He said, 193 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: ten years, half the households in America is going to 194 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: have computers. Now I'm thinking to myself, well, I have 195 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: the money and I don't even have a computer. How 196 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: is that gonna happen? But it's Chuck d something giving 197 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt that he knows what 198 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: he's talking about. I just can't understand it. Right then 199 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: he told me that we're gonna be getting our mail 200 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: through our computers. I was He's like, We're gonna be 201 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: getting the mail, you know, through computer, And I'm trying 202 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: to think physical How you gonna have physical mail come through? 203 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: He was talking about email. Chuck told me about the 204 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Internet now, and I'm thinking to myself, after it blows up, 205 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: it took less than ten years, so I'm thinking it 206 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: was more like five years or so three four three 207 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: or four years or something like that. So I'm like, 208 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: so after that, I started thinking to myself, Man, I 209 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: was like, man, had I jumped on that? If I 210 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: would have just taken a leap of faith and jumped 211 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: on it, what could my life have been like financially? 212 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: Perhaps I would have started the Internet company with ten 213 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars and so my internet company a few years 214 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: later for a hundred million dollars like Mark Cuban did, 215 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: and maybe i'd be the owner of the Dallas Mavericks. 216 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: But I didn't have the vision. So I promised myself 217 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: after that I would have a better I would be 218 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: open two new ideas and at least do my research 219 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: before I eliminate the idea of doing it, pursuing it 220 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: or not right, because because at first I was just like, 221 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't, I can't figure it out. I can't, 222 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: I can't understand it, and I just leave it right there. 223 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: It just dies right there. Now, when I hear something, 224 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: I look into it first, Let me at least look 225 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: into it. I found myself when when cryptocurrency came around, 226 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: I found myself doing the same thing. I didn't catch 227 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: my snap. Well, Buddy kept calling me saying, will will 228 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: check out this big corn check it out, check it out, 229 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: it's going, it's going to going. And finally I caught 230 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: my snap and I jumped on big corn. At I 231 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: jumped on and then I hit and then I reinvested 232 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: in those corn and some other coins and from there, 233 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: you know, I just been off to the races. But 234 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: I said that to say, you have to have the 235 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: fortune favors the visionaries, you know, you got to have 236 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: that vision. And just like with real estate, you're not. 237 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: You don't make your money when you know, with the news. 238 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: You make your money with the rumor. Right, So when 239 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: as a rumor it's going down, it's about to go down, 240 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: that's when you need to be on. Like, that's when 241 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: I should have been on with my kid's mom said, hey, 242 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: you need to get on this room. It's gonna come. 243 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: It's it's coming, it's coming. I waited till the news came, 244 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: and then by that time the land was so now 245 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: any land that I make a move on. Now, I'm 246 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: looking at twenty years down the line, what it might 247 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: look like thirty years down the line, you know, because 248 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: you gotta be willing to plant seeds that you may 249 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: not eat from, you may never see. Yeah, ready to 250 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: lose that. Well, it's your legacy. It's for you, you know, 251 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: it's for the people are after you. You know, that's 252 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: how you gotta look at it, you know, especially at 253 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: the age week. You know, you know thirty or four 254 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: year plans. You know that's for your family. Yeah, y'all 255 00:16:54,520 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: had y'all first underground UH tape was called listen to 256 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: the lyrics, right, So then y'all hit y'all hit him 257 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: with listen to the lyrics, and then y'all back door 258 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: that with your first commercial album, UH coming out hard. 259 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: So y'all said, y'all first told him listen to the lyrics, 260 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: then y'all said, we're coming out hard. And then y'all 261 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: found yourself on outside looking in, and then you came 262 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: back with U on top of the world. You're on 263 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: top of the world. If you listen just the first 264 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: three albums, if you you know, including the Underground, if 265 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: you if you listen to that, it tells a story 266 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: really about your careers, right if you really listen to it. 267 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: Because you guys are like you're you're, you're you're you're 268 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: very successful, you're accomplished, but you're your low key stars. 269 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: How do you manage to be under the radar still 270 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: going to the respect of your peers Because we respect 271 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: y'all and everybody that I know that understands this game, 272 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: respect and its mutual musical. It's musical, yeah, real man, 273 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: We just I don't know, man, we just gotta say 274 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: we just try hard at being ourselves, you know, because 275 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, man, it's hard to keep an echo. Man. 276 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: You know, man, it's hard. Remember that song we did, 277 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: yeah he was on. I think it's on. It's onshing 278 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: the bank. Yeah. Yeah. With us being ourselves all the time, yeah, 279 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: it hurt you in some circles that help you. I 280 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: can relate to that, yeah, you know. But always, you know, 281 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: the fans appreciate that. We always just kind of be us. 282 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: We stopped and take pictures, you know, you know, just 283 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: keep it regularly and we when the we a lot 284 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: of groups perform and deal, you know, do that stuff. Man, 285 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: we out of here may and g sometimes stay to 286 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: the lights, come on, man, you know what I mean. 287 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: Just stuff like that and just being us man, you know, 288 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: never change and kind of you know, trying to show 289 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: the human side. Basically, how did y'all connect with Tony Draper? 290 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: Oh man? Through mutual friends? Um friends that we knew 291 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: that we went to school with, that he knew, and 292 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, and they put us together. They listened to 293 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: the lyrics was out you know that came out. We 294 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: was in the twelfth grade. Um it came out that 295 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: summer or yeah that's something. Uh and uh it just 296 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: it was one of them songs like they used to 297 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: have a little slam of the jamming type of things 298 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: and the gym man they played on the dumping. It 299 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: might have played for like two hundred Knights on the 300 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: row or something like that, like we want like for 301 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: some months, like you know, every night it would be 302 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: our song. You know, man, how was that? Man? How 303 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: did that make y'all feel? No? Ship was crazy. We 304 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: were still a lot of actions. Were still catching the 305 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: bus man and I was catching the women too. That 306 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: it was always us, you know, like we always mean uh, 307 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: having having a having at least a local hit, don't 308 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: hurt it most definitely uh solfing the side of not 309 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: having no money yet were a little broke kids. Yeah, 310 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: you know we were still some little just some little 311 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: broke kids. Man. We was cool with uh skipper school 312 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: was a couple of chicks and smokers and weeds somewhere. 313 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: But people looked at us as this you know, yeah, time, 314 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: but it was you know, at what point do you 315 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: meet Tony? What this like ninety two, something like the 316 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: ninety it maybe in between that time. Do you remember 317 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: the first day that you met him, what that was like, 318 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: like what happened? What was said? Um, generally, you know, 319 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: he was letting us know that he liked the music 320 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: already and he was familiar with the music, and uh, 321 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: he was gonna be staying in touch with us, and 322 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: uh he had plans on doing something with his label 323 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: and getting us to Houston. And I know he generally 324 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: said that in the first meeting. And because it was 325 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: just a bunch of like ome boy kicking it, him 326 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: and our mutual partner come scoop us. You know, they 327 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: had all the cars and stuff. Then you know they 328 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: had the paper you know, paper draper they had, and 329 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: so they came scoop us up and take us places 330 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: and we hang out with them, and you know, in 331 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: between and then just it was like it was October thirteen, 332 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: but I never get um the week before that or 333 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: something like that, he asked us, was we ready to 334 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: be ready? I'm gonna get the tickets, y'all. Come on, 335 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: the first time we flew in everything, we had never 336 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: been on an airplane before. You know, it was my 337 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: MoMA birthday. I never get their part. We was leaving 338 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: on her birthday. So, but first time flying and everything 339 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: came down the Agetown posted up. So yeah, so who 340 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: was first? Who was first? Was it was it? You 341 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: guys are tealer on Suave House? Yeah, so you guys 342 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: was the flagship group? Well it was it was he 343 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: had a group. Uh it was thorough and your board 344 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: Now uh he had a group before us, uh smooth smooth. 345 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he had a group before us and then 346 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: group that was his out of Houston. Yeah, yeah, that 347 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: was his, like that was the that was just project 348 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: and doing the independent label. Yeah. Well who who did 349 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: distribution for you when your album came up? Uh? Back 350 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: then it was probably Southwest and uh not coming out 351 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: hard h that was Phillips New really and select them select, 352 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: I don't know select in South Wales News. Let me 353 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: ask you another question, like being artists on a label 354 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: back then and then looking at as an artist right now, 355 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: how is accounting? Are you being accounted to? You know, 356 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: are you getting your publishing, your writers and all of 357 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: that ship or is it's just one bit clusterfuck saying 358 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: now right now? Are you getting all of your ship 359 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: from back then it kind of is on that accounted to. Yeah, 360 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: we've gone a whole bunch back the last like the 361 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: first ten years after we left squall, we've done a 362 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: whole bunch and we all were still only on a 363 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: percentage of that stuff. Does it interest you to go 364 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: back and get the rest of that publishing Yeah, working, working, Yeah, 365 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: we feel like, you know, it's, um, we should have 366 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: that now because other people have had it for us 367 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: so long that don't let us at least die with it. 368 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean that publishing company, he's still 369 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: got injuries in it, I do believe. UM. So it's 370 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: a um, a statute or a law or whatever you 371 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: wanna call it. That's set up right now. It's been 372 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: said up since like seventy two artists. So make sure 373 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: that you you know, from the time your album, from 374 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: the time that album comes out until the thirty year period, Man, 375 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: get your ship back, you know what I mean. That's 376 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: the only way we talked about it all that. Yeah, 377 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: that's the only way we're gonna have some money when 378 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: it's ship back. Talk about it all the time, and 379 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: that's why Congress cut the deal. Yeah, I think that's 380 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, if that's that's what 381 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: the law is, and that's what the law, ain't nothing 382 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: we're making up with the law. If that's what the 383 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: law say, that's only right. But I don't think that's 384 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: the only way that we're gonna have some money. I 385 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: think we need to diversify. Man. I want to be 386 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: paid from from from from recording. I want to be paid. 387 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: I want to be paid from this job. You know 388 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like going to going working at 389 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: McDonald You work all that time and you don't get 390 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: paid until thirty five years later. You want to be 391 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: paid for for working this job right here first? All right, 392 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: I think it diversified back in ninety three, I've been diversified, 393 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: but I still won't get paid from this job. Well 394 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: that's good, I mean you should. You should be paid 395 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: for me any job that you put in work. Uh, 396 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, honest day's work for honest days pay. But 397 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: I but I you know, as a businessman also, I'm 398 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: on both sides just like you, as a businessman and 399 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, as somebody who has been a label exact 400 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: and as an artist for most of my life, I 401 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: can tell you that a deal is a deal until 402 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: you can go out there and make a better deal, 403 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: do you gee know what I'm saying, Because that's why 404 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: they got these contracts, you know, like bottom line man, 405 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: Like you know, the the music industry does not favor 406 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: the artist period. We all know that. It's always been 407 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: like that. It's been that like that from day one. 408 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: So if you can go back and you know, make 409 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: a better deal for yourself, then hell yeah, knock it 410 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: out the park. That's that's what it's for, Yeah, for 411 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: the artists to be able to make his deal with 412 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: his publishing. That's why they created the UH copyright termination 413 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: is what it's called. Because most artists are young and 414 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: in spirit and inexperience, you know when start off, you know, 415 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: they're either literally children or close to it, you know, 416 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: into their challenge or what they do. They're not and 417 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: so it should be some relief later on after you 418 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: get wiser older. It's the best time to to get 419 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: your uh, your copyrights back right now because you you settle, 420 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know what you know, what you want 421 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: to do that should be passed down, you know, I 422 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: think it should be you know, at the minimum, you know, 423 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: uh passed down to your children, you know, because that, 424 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: because that's kind of shitty man. You know, if you 425 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: think about it, if you think about like some of 426 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: these artists who have signed these um eternity deals and 427 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: ship and you know some years down the line, this 428 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: is this is an artist that shut the world, I mean, 429 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: made the world entertain the entire world and sold millions 430 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: of records, and that artist died broke, and that in 431 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: that children don't have anything either. That ship ain't cool. 432 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: And you know that's why, that's why that certain levels 433 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: of protection in Hollywood for young for young actors. Yeah, 434 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: I know you're very well, all right, you don't mean that. 435 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: Go ahead expound, Willie, you don't mean that. If I 436 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: said that, I meanted I'm here to represent it. Make 437 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: me not will tell me why you don't believe that. 438 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe it. You can't just can't just throw 439 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: out accusations and ship you got without any type any 440 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: type of you know, solid uh poof behind. Do you 441 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: think that? Talk to him? Let me, let me, let me, 442 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: let me get this together. So you gotta ask Willie 443 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: hypothetical questions. What if? So? Yeah, what if what if 444 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: somebody that you didn't like? Mm hmm, I'm not being 445 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: with it? Hey? What what? What? What? What? Is somebody 446 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: that you didn't like? You'll give him some money? Would 447 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: I just give somebody some money? Or would you let 448 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm just not giving nobody ship? Would you would? You? Would? You? Would? 449 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: You would? You? Would? You want his daddy? Don't leave 450 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: him something? Are you wouldn't give If it's somebody that 451 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't give a funk exactly, go 452 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: ahead at all? I know we're not go ahead, So 453 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: I know you don't mean that. You know you know 454 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: this dude right there? Man? You know, man, sometimes sometimes 455 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: I believe that this guy has a personal relationship with 456 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: the devil. I think they talking ship like ain't good morning, 457 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: good morning? How many people died today? That was great, 458 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: shoulder man got to have that shot the show. We 459 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: just dude, I ain't gonna lie. Man. When I was 460 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: standing outside nine point nine uh, smoking a big a 461 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: perfecto blunts at that show with y'all and Luke that night, 462 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: I never thought I'd be sitting here right now doing 463 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: this podcast. We appreciate doing. Man. Man, it's a world away. 464 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: We are a world away. We are that night, but 465 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: we are venturing off into tried the territory of us 466 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: being here. Yeah, you feel me, Y'allways, you know large 467 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: didn't life to us? Man face used to put up 468 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: on the bikes hit up, yeah, Man, did you have 469 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: a full on one of those bikes? Not that I 470 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: can recall. Willie, I ain't fall He used to pull 471 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: up with them boys though every time I ever thought 472 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: about getting the bike, Uh, somebody would fall and die. 473 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: And I just like, you know what, you know, I 474 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: ain't fail. Ain't there? I know. I'm just asking, man, 475 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: how was it working with Puffy Man? Sight from the 476 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: really talking about didn't you crash on the bike? Like 477 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: I actually, have you ever crash? I didn't. I didn't. 478 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: It was not affirmative. I ask you, had you ever crashed? Yeah? 479 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: But it wasn't like working with Puffy Man. Did he 480 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: come in there and actually hit the drummer? Put the 481 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: album out? Did you hit the drum machine? Did you 482 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: hit the drummer? Shee? He hit the drum machine? Did 483 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: he actually come in and hit the drummer sheet? Was 484 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: he just sucking around? Did he? I didn't never see him? 485 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: Did he produce anything for y'all know? Most of the 486 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: stuff that it was produced by Uh, producers from over 487 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: there with a lot of people. There was a lot 488 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: of just different producers were really uh in the you 489 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: know how you uh get in that time in your 490 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: career where you are just doing like don't matter because 491 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: we were so used to medic with T mix for 492 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: ten years, you know, so s so you're trying to 493 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: do this new thing, you know, to keep it, keep 494 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: keep the legacy moving forward, and so you're open to 495 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: these these these different ideas. But how was the experience overall? 496 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: Would you say? Was it a different? Was the difference 497 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: working uh, working with that group as opposed to working 498 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:58,239 Speaker 1: with Drake? Uh, it was most definitely different. But like 499 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: in most places, you know, we kind of find our pocket, 500 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, and wherever we wherever we didn't recorded it, 501 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: but if we always do us. But it was like 502 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Suave House was like to me Rap a Lot or 503 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: or even Bad Boy, you know what I mean. But 504 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: we were the you know how uh death Row all 505 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: these family style entities, you know what I mean. And 506 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: that's how Suave House was and Bad Boy was that 507 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: with their original people. We weren't originals, you know what 508 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, came after we came in. It was kind 509 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: of in this transition. They in transition had more stuff 510 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: going on at that time. He was not as hands 511 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: on it was used to be around a lot. But 512 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say hands on. Like before he happened to 513 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: pick the beach, changed did a lot of that. He 514 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: didn't change the page picked up produced. I would say, 515 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, produced as far as really listening to stuff 516 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: and set and listening. But we still had like full 517 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: creative control and what we wanted in the songs. Were 518 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: wanted to do titles everything. Man. You know, UM, when 519 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: I think of producers, I think of like somebody that's 520 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: in the studio that's um actually kind of sort of 521 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: directing ship. You know, hey, don't start, you don't start 522 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: right here, like go in on the on the on 523 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: the downbeat. You know that's the type of ship that 524 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: that Um. That's all part of production. Yeah, yeah, that's 525 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: all a part of it. And you know he was 526 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: a mask at that ship. Trey Dr Dre was a 527 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: motherfucker at that ship. Man, like like timing and okay, 528 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: put the get talk back in right here and promot 529 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: dope like that. You know what I mean? Like the 530 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: motherfucker's is like we got some cold producers give that. 531 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: You know a lot of motherfucker's make beats. Motherfucker's like 532 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: tone capone like they fucking producers bro like they really 533 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: or hands zoned and not just just coming in there 534 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: putting their name in there when it's done. You see 535 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: a lot of niggas put their name on ship I did. Okay, Okay, 536 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: they want they they they their names is tied to mind, 537 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: But it was actually me who did the ship whose 538 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: name is tied to yours when you actually did the ship, 539 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: you guys, I mean, look at anybody, anybody, anybody's name 540 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: that's next to mine in production is lying. They're lying. 541 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: If their name is next to yours in production, there 542 00:36:54,680 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: lying pull that like to see who's lying. Let's see 543 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 1: is that particularly I am. I can go to any 544 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: one of the motherfucker I want to go to Maid. 545 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to Ahead made classic. You know, I'm gonna 546 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 1: pick the class the class. I think it's a game. 547 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: When it's cot and brains, it is not the same. 548 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: What you expected was the spark dog, but not the flame. 549 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: I can stop the rain, okay, r ai n or 550 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: r e g Yeah either rain, like I can stop 551 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: that ship. Stop let's just gangster ship talk me like, so, 552 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: I would like to see here credits. I mean it's 553 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: very important that because this is about information that instructions, right, 554 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: perhaps we can save the next producer side. There are 555 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: the slash producers from making the same mistake, and I'm 556 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: sure that Brad would welcome such. Let's see made is 557 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: the Night Studio album by Scaring goddamn It two thousand seven. Okay, 558 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: well are these credits. Let's see label producers. I played 559 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: the baseline and never Okay, let me let me find 560 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: the track listing in the producing production for each track, 561 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: play the guitar never never you o Joe drama boardy 562 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: is not that? No, that's not but I played the 563 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: base on their drama boy came with the with the 564 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: original beat. Alright, Joe did the drums over. I played 565 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: the base on the guitar on. Man, your name is 566 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,919 Speaker 1: not on any of these made tracks. And then look 567 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: at look at Boy means Girl. That's me and my 568 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: uncle right there. Whoever put their name there is lying 569 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 1: Boy meets Girl? You know, Joe, John Beato, Mike Dean, 570 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: fucking Nope, so you know Joe didn't do it either. 571 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: Joe might have laid the drums to that ship from Heavyweight. 572 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: She just named man man Joe, Joe. I gotta get 573 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: Joe his card, man, but I can't get nobody else 574 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: to out out. Okay, So I'd like to You're just 575 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: from you know, the sake of argument, I'd like to 576 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: put up at least one moment to my first half balance, 577 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: which one go to my first album, first album. Here 578 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: we go, scar Faces, Joe's dope. Yeah, man, Hey, all 579 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: that ship was classic, man, but we just gotta be authentic, 580 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: man and just tell the truth. A lot of ship 581 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: that this game. That's that's everybody's so sensitive now. I'm 582 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: very sensitive now about my ship cause a lot of 583 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: motherfucker's put their names on my sho it and their 584 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: names ain't supposed to be next to my name on 585 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: my ship. Okay, okay. Track listing, here we go, Here 586 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: we go, emotion making. They don't even have the they 587 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: don't even have the production, can you okay? Okay? The 588 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: pim I did that Born Killer Simon did that Crazy 589 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 1: see Ye murdered by Reasons. I did insanity. Your ass 590 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,479 Speaker 1: got too. I did that Diary of a mad Man, 591 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: Big Rolling from New Orleans did that big rolling body Snatchers. 592 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: I did that. Money in the Power Beato did that. 593 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: PT Peter Roling, I did that Good Girl going Back. 594 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: I did that a minute to pray and sad. I 595 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: did that. I'm dead, Simon did that? Okay? For the 596 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: songs that you named that you said I did that. 597 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: Was that any point in history where you saw someone 598 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: else's name credited? I mean, I think Doug King might 599 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: have his name attached to my ship. That's not true, 600 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: Doug King, he might have What did Doug do anyway? Man? 601 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: Because Doug, Doug, Doug is the same, He's the same 602 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: person that Mike Dean is. They are engineers that put 603 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: their name on your production. Because I was like, I 604 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: saw Doug King name on my tricks on me, I 605 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: did that ship? Get your name on my ship? I 606 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: did that ship. I did my mind playing tricks on me, 607 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: Duck king lyon. He's a fucking engineer, dude, he did ship. 608 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: That's me. Now go find us some most ship that 609 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: with Doug King name on it, and you can't because 610 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: that ship came out. That's me cold. If Doug was 611 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: sitting here right now, Doug kissed my motherfucking ass right now, 612 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: if he was sitting here because he didn't do that ship, 613 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: well guess what audience we got, Doug. You know it's 614 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: been rumored that, um, it's been rumored that I'm sharing 615 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: production on sex Faces. Oh and and I know for 616 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 1: a fact, you know, ABC another bad creation. That's another 617 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: brand creation. Mike Dean played some keys on it, but 618 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: for the most part, and you can ask Mike, I 619 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: did that? So how did that? How do we really 620 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: needed this problem? What do we do? We make motherfucker's 621 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: come clean, make him come clean and and tell the 622 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: truth and shame the devil. So after they come clean, 623 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: history must be correctly written. Right, So you have to 624 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: go back into those credits, and well you got to 625 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: go back. You can leave you you can leave the 626 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: credits like they are. Just no, you just want the 627 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: truth to be I just want the truth to be revealed, 628 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,959 Speaker 1: because you know what, if you listen to anything else 629 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: that came out of anybody else's ship, it don't sound 630 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: like that. You know why, because you ain't built like that. 631 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: You ain't got that. I am the vibe. If you 632 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: ain't got the vibe, you're just recklessly making beats my nigga, 633 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: you got to have to vibe. I was born with 634 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: the vibe, man, vibe. That's why I ain't making no 635 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: beaks and no wraps no more. He got that vibe. Yeah, man, 636 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: you ain't got to vibe. No. I got the vibe, 637 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep it to myself cause niggas keep 638 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: claiming my vibe no more. I mean, why not If 639 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: somebody's claiming your vibe, you know, why not? Why not 640 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: do something to stop him from claiming it? And just 641 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: can't tell you and get your vibe? You better do 642 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: another album. Perhaps I'll do your whole album. The first 643 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: of all, this is this is let me explain something 644 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: to you now. I ain't trying to leave this is. 645 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: This is the classic. This is rock and hide in 646 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: your hand right because he knows I'm about to tell 647 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: everybody that is asked is Lyne. Because he said this 648 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 1: at least Willie, I am not lying, told the same 649 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: line at least a half a dozen times, Willie. I'm 650 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: gonna produce your album, Willie. I'll produce it, William. And 651 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 1: so you know what you do when Brad start lying, 652 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 1: you just call him on it. This say all right, man, uh, 653 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: see you in the studio Monday. Man. Uh, like I 654 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: got to go out to Miami. Yeah, Man, yeah, Man 655 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: yeah Man uh yeah man Man. Man, you someone that 656 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm young and the restless. It's always something. Man, my 657 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: knee hurt. I gotta go get some blood work. I 658 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: gotta go get some blood work. I gotta go do 659 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: a makeup show. I'm staying in the house because I'm 660 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 1: saying I'm staying in the house because they're saying smost 661 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: supposed to snow. You know, we don't get no snow 662 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: in Texas. Were in Houston. But anyway, man, we talked 663 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: about Drat, we talked about Puff. What about your working 664 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: relationship with t I. How did that go? What was that? Like? 665 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: It was kind of the same with did Man. He 666 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: was he were going through so much at that time. 667 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: At the time, he was kind of going through them 668 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: cases at the time, like I couldn't get a lot 669 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 1: of hand. It coincidentally happened around the same time, around 670 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: the time we went there. Shortly after that, you know, 671 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: he was in conservrating. Yeah, y'all did y'all wing with 672 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: down the album? That was I didn't know that, uh, 673 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 1: And then like you know, he got out and then 674 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: got inconsiderated again, and that it was during the time 675 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 1: we was over there. So where do y'all hear some 676 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: damn paper rentling and ship like crumbling down all that 677 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 1: old ship? Yea, hear some ship like that? Go ahead? 678 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: He got out, He got out. Yeah, man, he got out. 679 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: You know, the effort was there. You know, he put 680 00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: great album, great effort. The album was most definitely out 681 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: of the alum um. But I think it was kind 682 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: of lost in the publicity of you know, what he 683 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: had going on. You know, it was kind of bigger 684 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 1: than what we were doing at the same time. Yeah, 685 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: e forty too short. I asq snooped up m Mount Westmore? 686 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: Who is you guys? Is Mount Well? Mount ten Moore, Tennessee? Well, 687 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: you know he goes fulheads on the mountain. You don't 688 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: know I'm talking about Tennessee, Tennessee, because you know, you 689 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: got you got some, you got some cats out, you 690 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: got some I got And also Forgotti and don't don't 691 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: don't forget the youngsters. You know what I'm saying. I 692 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: got out there. That's that's doing it too. Who's on 693 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: your in there? If going all the way back to 694 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 1: the beginning Spanish fly Yeah, I would have to start 695 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: off with with with cats like um Gangster pet Oh 696 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: my god, got about three six pretty toning Player Flayer 697 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: fly Um player fly Yeah man three six. Um Project 698 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: Pat is my guy. I love Project DJ Squeaky Squeak. 699 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: He's definitely the creator of too thick Um the sound. 700 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah man. Uh and like um Dolph Dolph is 701 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: a fool dog money bag Um you said, got it? Yeah, 702 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: Gotti is a fool GUARDI of course, uh, Gotti a 703 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: fool and um And you know it's a lot. You know, 704 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 1: we're kind of making a lot of noise right now, 705 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: so we're really trying to keep up. Yeah. Well, I 706 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: know that Um Memphis is Um Isaac Hayes right the parcades, 707 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: um Stax Records, stacks. But it's one Memphis artist that 708 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to mention, but I don't want to mention 709 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: by name. Okay, all right, but his last name is Presley, 710 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: And I want to personally say Elvis was a hero 711 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: the most, but he never means to me. Simpling Plane 712 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 1: straight up races motherfuck him and John Wayne because I'm 713 00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: black and I'm proud most of my hero don't appear 714 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: on no stamps. Have you ever been out to Grace Land? 715 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: I have not. No, have you ever y'all never been there? Wow, 716 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the truth. Tell me all right. 717 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 1: You know when you walk past it? No, no, I said, 718 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: we've walked pasting the drove past. We don't live in 719 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 1: that area, so we're only you're not even allowed over 720 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,879 Speaker 1: the hunt. Oh no, it's a straight tourist like it's 721 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: they it's I've seen the damn plane over there with it. 722 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: Then he was making when they got his plane over there, 723 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,800 Speaker 1: They got a new stadium, all type of hotels. But 724 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: it really but it's on the main part about it. 725 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: At the house, it's like sitting on West Him. They 726 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: caught it, but it don't really look that big. It was. 727 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: It was that was a man. The house my mom 728 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 1: working sixty years look exactly like that John, same size 729 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: and everything you feel and but on the elves pressly 730 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: no man uh. I used to watch his movies. Man, 731 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I was at home alone 732 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, mom working and stuff. And Elvis 733 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 1: was a funny dude man, Like it's funny how you 734 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: make you laugh. You hear the music, just how he 735 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: was the it's the Hollywood machine and what they made 736 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: of him, you know what I mean. And it's just 737 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: just it's funny man, that's all. So he's he's like 738 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: f U d D Why fuddyduddy d u d D? 739 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: Why Buddy Duddy? Just fucking you know. He was the 740 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: he was the playboy in every one of his movies, 741 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: Like he got all the girls. What about when he 742 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: got fat though, when he got fatty, he had a 743 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: big hands lamp. But some things went right here he 744 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: was he wasn't in the movie mud that right there, 745 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: muddon ud. Yeah. I don't think he did too many 746 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: movies when he got to the fatty. Wasn't that Ba 747 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: was eating them hamburgers. They watch that Bobby keep playing 748 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 1: cross street from Elvin's house for hamburger joining something that's 749 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: close by Elvin's house by the plane. Well that was 750 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: that was so long ago. They might have told that 751 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 1: mother down to be at the stadium stuff. Yeah, so much. Yeah, 752 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 1: because when we were going out to Memphis like back then, 753 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: really like it wasn't a whole lot of ship out there. 754 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 1: And now you said they got baseball stadiums and ship 755 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, memphiss. Really it transitions, like you know, it 756 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: ain't aged town, aged town, y'all lost that he grew 757 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 1: changed so much from twenty years ago. But yeah, man's 758 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: just uh growing all the time. You know, we distributed, 759 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: so it's it's man, go by that ship, y'all Amazon 760 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 1: and all that time, Man go by this ship. Man, 761 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 1: it's coming, it's coming. Go go to the the niggerish 762 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: neighborhood you can find and if you see an empty lot, 763 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: just buy it, just buy and have it. That's in 764 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: case they want to tell that ship down to put 765 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: them all that. You gotta spot there and they're gonna 766 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: have to bid for by that ship. Man. Yeah you 767 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 1: weren't on a new project, Yeah you are? Yeah yeah 768 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: yeah man. You know what, even if it ain't gonna 769 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: come out, we are always doing work. How many how many? 770 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: How many albums? Records? How many records you think that 771 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: you have, but like that hasn't come out. That's it's 772 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 1: in the arsenal ship. I probably got a three albums, 773 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: four albums. You got about four albums. I got more, 774 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: probably more than that. I got a studio in my house, Willie, 775 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,320 Speaker 1: before I unplugged all that ship, I'll just be making music, 776 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: making songs. But now I don't even go up there, 777 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: and no more. I fucking unplugged that ship a little. Recording, man, 778 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 1: I hate recording now a little. I think it got 779 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 1: too difficult because when ship went digital, you know, computer SS. 780 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: I got SSL in my house. You got computers and 781 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 1: SSL s, and I adn't never been able to do 782 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: nothing this stuff. I'm lost without an engineer. I'm just 783 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. I learned proteols, and yeah, I learned proteols. 784 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: I learned SSL long time ago. When I first bought 785 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: my studio, I had an engineering there and I used 786 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: to have to wait on him to do anything. I 787 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: couldn't do nothing. Very I felt hopeless, and one day 788 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, man, show me how to 789 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: work this day. He's like, well, you know, man, if 790 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: I show you how to work it, you know it'd 791 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: be easier for me to just do it, man, because 792 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna takes so lots of man. That was insulting 793 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: my elligence. And I was like, man, just show I 794 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: was like that was a job security response, right, So 795 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,439 Speaker 1: I was like, man, just show me how to work it. 796 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: And so the man refused to show me. He always 797 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: had an excuse. So one day I just started, like 798 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: I asked another producer engineer to come over and show 799 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: me how to work it. So I had an engineer 800 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 1: coming over every day just showing me. And each day 801 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: I learned one or two things. You know, you could 802 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: start off with, how to turn the volume up, turn 803 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,919 Speaker 1: it down, how to fade, you know, and just and 804 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 1: and as you as I learned, I just it just 805 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: kept growing and growing and growing to one day he 806 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, we are man. How you 807 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: do this? I got so good that I became a 808 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 1: better engineer than he was. And I remember when I 809 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: first started, I used to look at dudes doing the 810 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: engineer and stuff, and I thought, man, you had to 811 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: be a genius. I thought you had to be a 812 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 1: genius to do that. But then I saw Brad doing it. 813 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: I was like, you can do it. I can do 814 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: it because if you put us in the room right now, 815 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: think about us, I can record your whole Yeah, we'll 816 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: come out. We don't need you can record it. We 817 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: don't need. You don't need to produce a engine that 818 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 1: you put us on the room. We can come out 819 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: with all no ship. That's impressive. Everybody in this room, 820 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: everybody you know, But that's a that's a thing like 821 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, we can go in the 822 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 1: room beats everything. Don't uh if you got pro tools 823 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Man, he don't show you how 824 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: to do that. I paid thing. If you got a 825 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: booth and all they fired that nigga. Man, you know what, 826 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: I ain't no good engineer, you know, show you that thing. 827 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,919 Speaker 1: Mike Dean, Mike Dean. It's probably one of the best 828 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 1: engineers in the world. Yeah, I give him that. And 829 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 1: he's probably one of the best musicians too. He could 830 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 1: play every thing. It's nothing that he can't play. Yeah. Stevo, 831 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: that called Stevo. That's my personal engineer. And I can't 832 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,399 Speaker 1: record without Stevo. Yeah, Like we've been doing this ship 833 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: so long together until he already know. It's a chemistry. 834 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: It's a chemistry with me and Stevo as engineers. You know. 835 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: So even though I know how to work that ship 836 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: or I know how to mix that ship or whatever, 837 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: I still have dude in there. I don't even you know, 838 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: I gotta have him in there because and make it 839 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: and make the make it, make it way smooth engineer 840 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: that know you, It just makes it flow smoothing. It's 841 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: that much. Even though I know how to do it, 842 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. M I want to 843 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: grab that. Yeah, pop quiz, what is the name of 844 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: the very first hip hop song album that Mike Dean 845 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: produced them? The very first hip album? Mhm, it had 846 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: to be uh my street life song? Was it a 847 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: rap a lot album? It was a rap a lout album? 848 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: The first Girl Boy three two? Nope, I'm just getting 849 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: gangster Nope, nope. Who Willie d going out like a soldier? 850 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: Willie I didn't Street life and ninety fucking one or two. 851 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: You see, I forgot about that ship. Just what I'm saying. 852 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: So I did, I did, but I did going out 853 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: like a soldier ninety two. So if you did street life, 854 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: you always did your records after mine, right a wrong? 855 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: Right a wrong? I don't even know when you do. 856 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: You always drop you always dropped your records after I 857 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: don't even know album. And I'm trying to think. He 858 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: always tried to act like he don't know ship, but 859 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: he be he This is the one they going on 860 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 1: like I sold you come out this one. This is 861 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: like one of the most snooping motherfucker's you're gonna have 862 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: a meet in your life snooping snooping. This motherfucker a man, 863 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: he'd be looking and looking at snooping, like trying to 864 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: figure out what's the hell going on? So he played 865 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: country dumb, but he knows what's going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 866 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: that's thinking this ship man eating canny and ship while 867 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: we're doing an interview. That's all that throwing y'all right there, 868 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: because you think, man, who the hell sits up and 869 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 1: eat candy while conducting not not not doing interview, while 870 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 1: conducting an interview, He's keeping it real. This guy's keeping 871 00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: it like, yeah, it's got a conductor. Are you Are 872 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: you even supposed to be eating candy? Man? Listen, Willie, 873 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: we talked about this. You talked about this, you know, 874 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: because look, man, I mean I I called Chris right 875 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: now and telling the report that kidneys. If you called 876 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Chris Nick bring his ass up here. We got to 877 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: get me because we we got to take care of 878 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: that kidney. Man. You can't be just getting that kid 879 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: sucking it up, just eating whatever you want to eat. Man, 880 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: we got to go through all this ship again. Man 881 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: trying to do all that in the hospital. You're gonna 882 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: take it back, I called him. And it took nine 883 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: hours to get my kidney putting in right next day. 884 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Really came up down in the hospital. Yeah, he was 885 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: just fucking shocked because I went from a nigger on 886 01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 1: his deathbed, a nigga bouncing off the walls. Back. Hey, 887 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 1: that boy was happy. He was scared though when he 888 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 1: was before he went into the knife, he was skinned. 889 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't scared. Mann to the knife, man, Brad, look man, listen. 890 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: Brad called to me like, hey, Willie, I love you, man, 891 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: I know your man. I don't even like Willie, so 892 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: I know for a fact I didn't say that. I 893 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: didn't say that, Willie. I don't even know what. I 894 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 1: was walking my dog when COVID first came out, when 895 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 1: you got coble, you remember that. You don't even remember that. 896 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: And I was face taying you. He was like, ball, 897 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 1: go back in the house. I don't even walk the dog. 898 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Go back in the house walking to down. Man, go 899 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 1: back in the house. In the house. I'm telling you, 900 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: real man, it's just real man. Real. Yeah, he knows 901 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 1: what he said. He know. I know the truth. He 902 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: knows the truth. But hey, man, but I'm glad you're here. 903 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Brom and I always it was a success. We get 904 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: more success, But I'm not glad I'm here with Willie. 905 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 1: Ye man, y'all love each other like brothers, like dog. Yeah, 906 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: don't be shane a little each other like that. You know, 907 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 1: it's real man that be here with that bullish. That's 908 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: that's why if if I'm ever in a place where 909 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 1: we're having a gathering, and you know, I know, and 910 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 1: I know, and I know it's a favorite dish that 911 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 1: he wanted to make sure you eat all that ship 912 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: you come. That's how you do. That's how you get 913 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: them back. These are the type of things that people 914 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: can't get over. You can't get over, get get over 915 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of shootings and stuff. But you eat that that 916 01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: last become fine. Some areas that are what did you 917 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: call it? Okay? Yeah, because we caught it, but at 918 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 1: a certain points of the country they say, yeah, it 919 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: was such a um mhm. It was such an honor 920 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 1: and a pleasure to be able to to just watch 921 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: the growth of eight Ball and m j G. You 922 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: know from um the way that that album coming out 923 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: hard you know, and just watching the coming out hard, 924 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, in the transition into space, age's pimping and 925 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, just it's just big records. Man. That was wow. Wow, 926 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 1: just rap styles, different cadences and and niggas just just 927 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 1: knew how to Niggas from the South that knew how 928 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: to control the mike, you know, MCing, mike controlling, you know, 929 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: handling it and and and I of the growth. Man. 930 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: I remember came over to the house that y'all was 931 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: living in off a beach that back there by what's 932 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: that ship called fun Plex shooting basketball man. Y'all, y'all 933 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: nigga was working in that studio, bro trying to garage 934 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,760 Speaker 1: and turning the garage to a studio and just just 935 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 1: that transition right, just watching y'all do that ship man 936 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: was was was inspirational, you know to me too. You know, like, man, 937 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: these niggas is going to day doing it in the garage. Man, 938 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: And we was doing Ship and in in in the studio. 939 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: After that first album, we was going to big studios 940 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: and spending money. But y'all, y'all, Ship was sounding you know, 941 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: just as good, if not better out the garage. You know, 942 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 1: we was we was maning. We was following y'all day. Man, 943 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: you can best believe we looked at y'a all the 944 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: same way. Like from the south, y'all was not just 945 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: on it from the south of y'all as substance, and 946 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: that was probably the most important quarter of and you 947 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 1: know and everything ghetto boys substance. And then you see 948 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 1: all this stuff we just named when you was saying 949 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: that thing like we was like and we was real fans, 950 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: man like for real, for real, like of that whole movement. 951 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: Man like all them artists Man k ring No, and 952 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he was he was he 953 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff with like yeah three too. Yeah, 954 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: but man, we listened to all of that, man, I'm 955 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: talking about and that that that a lot of the 956 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,439 Speaker 1: music and stuff. Uh, it shaped a lot of what 957 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,080 Speaker 1: we became and what we were doing as well. You 958 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 1: know that Yeah, that whole um, the atmosphere that was 959 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 1: created with all these groups working together. You know, uh, 960 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: that that that was being emulated, man, not only by us, 961 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 1: but by all the people who you know, don't admit it, 962 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 1: but man, they got that from I think you know 963 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 1: Rabber Rabber the first that was the that was the 964 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 1: first step. That was you know what I mean, honestly, man, 965 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,800 Speaker 1: we were pattned a lot of I grow from the 966 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 1: man because we went from the garage studios to the 967 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 1: big joints, and you know, you end up finding out 968 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: that the garage John's are where we want to be. 969 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: That I mean, I to paying all that money for 970 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 1: them big studios and all that. But we, man, we followed, 971 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,919 Speaker 1: you know, followed y'all pals man, you know, like y'all. Yeah, 972 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 1: we did the whole on Top of the World album 973 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 1: in a bedroom, and that's because we was in the 974 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: transition to move into another spot. You know, we had 975 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 1: already been using the big studio and all that the 976 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: last couple of albums, but we was in the process 977 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: of moving, so we had to go through our studio 978 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 1: that was in Garge And so we did that whole 979 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: album in a in a third bedroom. Uh and uh 980 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 1: our girl Katie, Katie may house and she still lives 981 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: in the same residence right now. So Louise, I don't 982 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: man and one of them bed room. We just say 983 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: that the same man. You know, it's musical, man, to 984 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: love the the respect and everything. Man, it's musical. Man, 985 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be no us without yall without really, at 986 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 1: some point a good student will become a teacher. And 987 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: that's a testament to the statement that people make oftentimes 988 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 1: when they reference you guys, they say that you guys 989 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 1: have laid the foundation of the Southern Sound today today sound. 990 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: How do y'all feel about that statement? Man? It's uh, 991 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, we just makes you go back and think, 992 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: um about how long you've been doing it, um, and 993 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: maybe the influence maybe uh, you know, I look at 994 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: it like, um, maybe you know I understand because you 995 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, we knew how them times was back then, 996 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, coming from the South, and uh, it wasn't 997 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,479 Speaker 1: a lot of representation for the South, you know, like 998 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, the East Coast had a grip on the game, 999 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, first feature I heard south to East 1000 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Coast you and cool Gi rap Yeah, and that we 1001 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 1: did that on and we did that on the West 1002 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Coast and I never heard that before, like the East 1003 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 1: Coast and somebody like him, somebody from the South, you know, 1004 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 1: and you don't want to uh diverse that that bill 1005 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: late for Coogi rap I wrote that did you know 1006 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 1: that Willie No, he wanted to vaguely remember something like 1007 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 1: that happening now really really didn't do the record. We 1008 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: did a lot of shout out cool g rep to 1009 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: g rap Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We had some good 1010 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 1: times with a little bit. Yeah. Oh did pulenty time 1011 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 1: over this house, smoking out, kicking it. Y'all? Was Bill 1012 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 1: cool to be around with, y'all? He times we was around. 1013 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't think we were. You know, people like Bill, 1014 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: y'all spent more time with him. So y'all know Bill 1015 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: for readers, yea, let the build that you know Bill 1016 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: got Memphis. Yeah, he had his moments and ship, but 1017 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 1: never like probably y'alls. Yeah. Yeah, one thing Bill pass 1018 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 1: that blunt don't know. I'm not passing. We had some 1019 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: good times back in Houston too. Yeah. Man, what other 1020 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: good times you guys want to have? I don't know. 1021 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's good times and maybe it's just legacy building here, 1022 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,560 Speaker 1: but what other what else do you guys want? Is 1023 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,719 Speaker 1: there anything else that you want out of this hip 1024 01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:01,680 Speaker 1: hop game? Oh? Man? I just wanted keep flourishing, you know, uh, 1025 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:09,639 Speaker 1: keep growing and uh keep evolving. Man. Uh uh it's 1026 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 1: you know, it's a voice. You know, it's a voice. Uh. Man, 1027 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: it's the youth. Um, and I think, uh, it kept 1028 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: us all young. I think, uh, I think it kept 1029 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: us all all in this room. And and um, it's 1030 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 1: like something in the water, you know. I think, you know, 1031 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 1: when hip hop came alone, you know, it made us 1032 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 1: as a whole culture more youthful and more youthful thinking. 1033 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Like if you look back at old pictures in old times, 1034 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, um, it's like a lot of 1035 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: youngsters was in a hurry to get old, look old, 1036 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: start acting old, you know, like you know, like when 1037 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,679 Speaker 1: you look back, you know, like in the thirties, fours 1038 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,120 Speaker 1: and fifties, and you look at some of them hit 1039 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 1: is you know cats, you know it was twenty two 1040 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 1: already looking like you know what their granddaddy looked like, 1041 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: you know, just but selling in them ways, you know early. 1042 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: And I think hip hop a different fort The hip 1043 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 1: hop made a different made forty different in this atmosphere. 1044 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 1: Made And not to say that you know, the older 1045 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 1: cats wasn't on the game and only hustle, but I 1046 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 1: think hip hop just made us more youthful, youth for thinking. 1047 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 1: And you know you're right about that, man, because when 1048 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 1: I was growing up, I mean, a forty year old 1049 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 1: pretty much looked like a grandmother. Now yeah, grandmother, remember 1050 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,280 Speaker 1: looked like But I mean when I was in my 1051 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 1: team with some forms and Cats and two would be like, oh, 1052 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 1: there's no rep. I listen to blues. I listened to this, 1053 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 1: you know, I remember this. You know that cats who 1054 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,040 Speaker 1: was and they twenties, was like, we don't listen no rep. 1055 01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 1: You know, back at a certain time. But now everybody, 1056 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 1: everybody Hill, you know, everybody want to be hip and 1057 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,679 Speaker 1: you know it's a good thing. You know. I think 1058 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,679 Speaker 1: man hip hop and ball and ge Man. I think 1059 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, we have made a mark. I think we 1060 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:20,640 Speaker 1: are yet to make that mark that's gonna really you 1061 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't think it's gonna 1062 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 1: be we I can't say what it is. But we've 1063 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: been kept around for a reason. And I know that 1064 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: we start. Yeah, and we we love this. We love 1065 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 1: the music man and and and and I'm gonna put 1066 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 1: this out there. I'm gonna leave alone. Marlon and Primro 1067 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 1: would have been Model and Primro if we was working 1068 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 1: at fed Ex, them too, niggers that work in fed Ex, 1069 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,639 Speaker 1: they'd be tripping, sneaking in the back smoking weed all 1070 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:56,520 Speaker 1: that that would have been. If we were truck drivers, 1071 01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,679 Speaker 1: we would like always with them old at the truck 1072 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: stopping would be tripping man, you know, we would have 1073 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: been them guys. My my last question, My last question, primro, 1074 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 1: have you have a lot letter? And on that note, 1075 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 1: we're out of here. Before I let you guys go, 1076 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't even want to know this. I want to know, 1077 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: are you guys in the crypto. I'm trying to get 1078 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 1: into it all right, Yeah, we're gonna rap man, please. 1079 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,679 Speaker 1: I had the same story you had about the years 1080 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 1: ago with the computer things. Years ago, a friend of 1081 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 1: mine talked about it. Don't remind it, and they mind 1082 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 1: it for a long time, you know what I mean. 1083 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 1: And look now and just look at it now, you 1084 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I just thinking we had 1085 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: got in on anything you could mind because we most 1086 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,599 Speaker 1: definitely had people around us telling us about it. Definitely. 1087 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 1: It's still a lot of great projects that come out 1088 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 1: on crypto damn their daily uh. And and it's still 1089 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,639 Speaker 1: very very young. Although Crypto a lot of people are 1090 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 1: catching on. You know, the numbers of the percentage of 1091 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 1: people in the US especially, it's going up around the 1092 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 1: world they got the US, I pacede. But in the 1093 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: US that number is consistently going up. And you know, hey, man, 1094 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 1: now is the time, like now is the time. I 1095 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 1: don't I don't know a suite of game. I just 1096 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 1: don't know a sweeter game. I mean I've made I've 1097 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,439 Speaker 1: made more money in crypto in the last five years, 1098 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,840 Speaker 1: and I've made in thirty years. And here almost at 1099 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 1: coast partners each and every one of Yeah, and in 1100 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,559 Speaker 1: the last year, man, man, I mean last year takes 1101 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 1: out all years combined. You know, like crypto is where 1102 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 1: it's that we'll have a conversation. It's good to see y'all. 1103 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 1: It's good to see y'all come out. Man, Good to 1104 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 1: see yall and good spears, good health. And it's also 1105 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,840 Speaker 1: good to see you guys still have that that hunger, 1106 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:16,559 Speaker 1: that drive to get to get Morely, we appreciate. We 1107 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,640 Speaker 1: don't do this for nobody else. Man, y'all remember that 1108 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 1: he's only get this type of podcast, ladies, gentlemen, prim 1109 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 1: Roe Smith. And it's good if you want to know 1110 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 1: what m you did. What I'm saying, no more talks. 1111 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by a King and brought to 1112 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 1: you by the Black Effect Podcast Network and i Heart 1113 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:47,559 Speaker 1: Radio