WEBVTT - TUES PT 2: Lunchbox's ‘The Challenge Mania’ Special 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:02.960 Bone Zone Bones. 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.640 All right, a few things before we get over to lunchboxes. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.200 Interview with the Challenge Mania crew, and I'll let him 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.920 set that up. But our whole studio was Challenge Mania. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.000 I thought DJ poly D was coming in based on 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.120 the pictures and stuff. So all that coming up in 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.239 just a few minutes. But speaking of podcasts, Morgan, do 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.200 you always do your podcast from your house? Do guests 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:22.840 come to your house? 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.240 Yeah, that's the home studio is like I changed one 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:27.840 of the rooms over to be a home studio. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:30.200 Do you ever have guys come over to be the 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:31.880 guest and they come over by themselves? Oh, that just 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:32.760 feels dangerous. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.280 Yeah, well, and it was kind of funny. Recently I 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.040 had a much older gentleman come on and he was 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.680 an awesome guest, but he showed up like forty five 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:46.000 minutes early, and I'm like, oh, what do I do? 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:46.279 Oh? 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:46.840 Your house? 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.600 Oh that's tough because I wonder if he knew it 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.120 was your home studio or if he was just showing 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:53.200 up early to a studio. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.680 That's a little that's forty five minutes. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:57.200 That's that's uncomfortable. 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:57.760 Even me. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:59.640 I would have sat in the car for a while yeah, 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.080 but I wonder if he did he know it was 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:02.480 your home. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.600 I always make sure when I respond, I'm like, hey, 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.200 it's a home studio, here's the address, so they know. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.880 But I don't know if his people conveyed that message 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:10.280 to him. 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.119 So what did you do? I they're dating now. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.119 I was literally like in my sweats. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:16.759 I hadn't changed. 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:18.600 I had just finished like cleaning up, because I always 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.080 try and make sure everything's like prepared and ready, and 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.360 changing is like the last thing that I do. So 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.680 I answered the door and I'm like in my sweats 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.240 and I'm like, oh my gosh. And he's like, no, 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.080 I know, I'm so early. And I just kind of 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.720 sat him in my podcast studio and I was like, 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.840 I'll be here like five seconds, and then I'm like 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:36.240 running around changing. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.000 I felt that's uncomfortable, that's awkward. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.600 Yeah, I mean, you're changing when he's there. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:42.520 We do a. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.440 Bobby cast from my from my house, but it's not 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.920 even my house, so we have a building now in 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:49.240 the back. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:49.520 Now. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.040 We did do it from in my house for a 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.280 long time and it got to be weird where people 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:55.120 were just in the house. 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:56.120 It's just weird. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.280 After a while I was like, I don't know people 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.960 just being in my house and so and then certain 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.800 artists you think I can still suck depending on Yeah, 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.360 so for the Bobby cast, for the most part, some 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:13.040 we do here, I'm lucky enough that they go to 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.200 the back, like there's a basically a trail to the 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:18.880 backyard with this building where we have built a studio. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.160 But I know how uncomfortable that is. But also the 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:26.000 dynamic of female male Yeah, that's weird. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.799 I know, and I'm really thankful too, like genuine when 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.960 I say older gentlemen like much much older. So like 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.880 I didn't feel uncomfortable, but it still was like there's 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.840 a stranger in my home. I am not dressed, and 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.280 I felt ill prepared for like this situation where I 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.040 was like I should have been dressed an hour ago, 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.680 and I know I shouldn't have because he came early. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.760 It was just I was so frazzled. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.920 I wonder at what age for men do we start 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.840 to be like, oh, I'm comfortable now because he's eighty, 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.720 like if he was as a woman. Yeah, Like because 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.200 you just said I felt okay knowing that he was older. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.040 So then at what aged men suddenly but come like. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.880 Safe when you can beat them up. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:05.960 And I think it's a case by case when they're 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.680 brittle enough that you can beat them up. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.200 Wheelchair, Yeah, wheelchair for sure. 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.880 Gary Muldier, who's a comedian, plays at the opera a bunch. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.400 He's eighty five. He showed up an hour early. But 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.120 I have a have no building, so we just sat 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:21.680 in the building. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.480 You don't have to get like as a woman changing 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:26.920 your club. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:28.799 I had to do nothing. I was lucky enough. I 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:30.400 didn't matter. I could have been naked. He still wasn't 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.360 the side he was over in the side building. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:34.880 What was that? 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.440 What was the topic? Is that one up yet? 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:36.720 Yeah? 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:37.520 Yeah, it's enough. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.000 His name is doctor Harry Cohen. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:40.920 He wrote a book called Be the Son, Not the Salt, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:42.880 and it was really good, like genuinely great guy. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.600 It was just I want the doctor to be early though, 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.440 you know what. I like that. I like it that 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.040 it's the doctor that's early on. My doctor to be 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:49.720 early all the time. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.400 And he was very old fashioned, like he came dressed 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.960 in like a suit and tie, so I was very uncomfortable. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:56.880 I was literally in sweats. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.360 I was like, I need to put on a dress. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.400 Oh, his wardrobe. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:04.480 Changed your wards. 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:05.440 So funny. 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.560 That's funny in your house. Yeah, but do you have guests? 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.640 Well, with feeling things, we're not going to do the 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.400 guests route, but with four things, yeah, I had plenty 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.279 of people in and out of my house, like I 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:17.839 wanted to. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:19.760 Ye. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:26.120 Well, yeah, right, that was That was acupuncture day. I 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.200 definitely had a lot going on in my life during 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.720 that season. Not an excuse, but my in laws were 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.400 living with us at the time to help with some 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:37.160 of the chaos, and I decided to go get acupuncture 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.719 again because my life is falling apart. And I guess 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.120 I didn't explain to him I have a podcast interview 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:44.520 in two hours. I didn't know. It was one of 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.000 my first times to go to this guy, and he's 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.960 he lays me face down on the table and I'm 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.440 just assuming this is gonna be a less than an 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.919 hour appointment. Well, I laid down on my stomach, so 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.080 in my back. He puts a bunch of needles in 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.680 my head and my back, down my leg like everywhere, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.760 so I can't move kind of needles in me. Also 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.880 so relaxing. I fell asleep right there more than all 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:06.960 of it, like all of it. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:07.599 It was just bad. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.200 I couldn't. I had not my phone. You know, you're 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.000 supposed to be there. It's acupuncture. And then all of 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.200 a sudden he's like, okay, time to get up, roll 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.440 over and I sit up and I'm like what time 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.000 is it? And he's like, oh, it's been about two 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.560 hours and like what So then I look at my 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.280 phone and I have all these miscalls for my father 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.120 in law and he's like your podcast interviews here, and 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:30.760 I was like mortified. So luckily they understood and I rescheduled. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.800 They came back. Yeah, there was that stress, the stress 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:36.440 relieve where you were. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:36.840 I know. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.440 Oh, I was like, whatever you just did to me? 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.600 Now it's undone that's true got canceled. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.599 So we're gonna get to this now with Lunchbox. What's 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.279 Challenge Mania? Is it from that show? You watch The Challenge? 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:49.640 Yeah? 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.720 So what they do is it's like a live podcast. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.760 They take different cast members and they go to different 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.360 cities and so every city will have different cast members 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.680 with them and they do sort of a Q and 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.480 A and they do like where you meet the fans 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:02.920 and everything. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.040 It's all this that that's. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:05.560 What they were in town for yet. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:06.880 Oh they were doing that somewhere else. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:07.120 Yeah. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.839 Yeah, it's a paid place, like you buy tickets and 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:11.440 you go and you get to meet the challenge. People 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.839 ask them questions, they tell stories. 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:15.479 I mean, it's fantastic. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.799 So Lunchwalks was very excited. After we left the show. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.320 They I didn't see them because I think they came 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.120 up with like two or something. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.040 Yeah, two o'clock in the afternoon. Man, I stayed here 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.800 to work late. That's what I do on the grind 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.480 You do out what is it called? Is it the 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:30.920 grind hitting the Grindstone? 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:32.320 Is that what you call it? 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.920 Huh? That's a combination of a couple of them. Yeah, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.080 like the ground Oh. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.000 Those of the Grindstone, you know. I mean everybody else 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.240 is at home. I'm here working away. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.080 So if I ask you who they are. Just to 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.360 set this up, Mark Long. 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.599 He's the og. He's been doing this for since nineteen 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:50.120 ninety two. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.799 Is he the guy that's organized the whole travel around 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:55.480 to the podcast? 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.679 No, that that guy's name is Scott Yeager. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:02.000 Him and Darren who was a contestant on road Rules, 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.919 they came up with it. Mark Long was just the 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.720 first road Rules and He is the one that came 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.320 up with the challenge All Stars, which brings. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.760 Back vets like it's like a shorter season. It's on Paramount. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:14.440 It's amazing. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.760 It's like you get all the old school people because 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.880 they can't be away from their family as long. And 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.000 he's like, we should do this. They can't give away 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.200 three months, but they can give away three weeks and 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.880 that's what has brought back All Stars. Mark Long is 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:31.040 known as the godfather Polly, Paullie, Dude, Big Brother. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:32.280 Why'd you look at Eddie? 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:33.800 You guys don't know these people. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.680 This is not Polly d Oh. Who is Holly D's 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.160 from Jersey Shore. Okay, yeah, this is just no. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.760 Polly was on Big Brother. Then he came to the 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.080 Challenge and dude, he came in like usually the rookies, like, oh, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:47.119 you know, I'm not gonna do anything. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.200 He's crazy. He tells Johnny Bananas, I'm gonna whoop your 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.040 and he tries to whoop it. He's crazy. He's awesome. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:53.480 Okay. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.280 Adam Adam was on road Rules way back when he's 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.640 on All Stars now and he's been on a few 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.960 seasons All Stars. Met his chick on All stars. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:05.360 Uh. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.840 Yeah, he's been around world back in the game now 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.000 recently back in the game. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.400 Any girls in the show. Yeah, on the podcast. Yeah, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:13.880 Avery got it. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.200 From Real World Portland and then she's also on the challenge. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:18.880 When you see someone that was on Real World, is 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.880 that cool to you because you're a massive Real World fan? 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.520 If I see him on real Real World or road Rules, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.280 they're huge to me, Like it is like my dream 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.200 and my everything I am. I'm like that great day 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.760 I am. They got to live what I wanted to be, Like, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.880 they got to do what I wanted to do. Like 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.079 Avery's like one of the last Real Worlds almost, Like 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.079 that's what's crazy. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:39.720 That show's over. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.040 Yeah, they don't do it anymore. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:42.760 When do they quit? What was the last season? 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:45.079 Oh that's a great question. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.640 Uh, I mean they did one in Los Angeles that 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:49.680 was really bad. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.800 That was the one Scooba was supposed to be on. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.160 I don't mind the show, like as a member. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:56.959 Scooba was supposed to be on, but he picked a 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:58.440 chick over the Real World. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:08:59.360 I don't know about this. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.240 We talked about it was a long time ago, like 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.080 five years ago when you first met me. We talked 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.839 about on the show. Is they did this was the 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.319 first time ever they did the online auditions. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.079 Wait, so you were offered the job. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.680 And I was dating a chick during that process. I 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.880 had just met her almost that same weekend. And then 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.720 I turned it down because I'm like, well, this this 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.880 girl basically told me was my ex wife, that if 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.800 I went for this role then we wouldn't be anything. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.600 Is this like cars run you off the road though, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.199 or maybe occasionally or did you for sure get the 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:25.600 d Yeah? 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:26.760 No, Yeah, it was me and this other guy from 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.840 Daytona Beach and then he was the alternate and they 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.959 went with him because I turned it down because of her, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:36.280 which that week Yeah, the whole weekend changed my life. 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:38.040 But I think it was a great thing because I 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.120 turned it down. I saw those guys are nice guys. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.320 But I'm glad I didn't go that route. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.040 No, No, that was a terrible season in real world. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.520 I also think because didn't you end up divorcing that girl? 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.000 Yeah, the girl told me not to go on the show. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:49.640 I divorced her. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:50.840 I caught her cheating on you. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.199 Yes on Ashley Madison. Yeah, so the same woman. I 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:54.760 guess My point is, if he'd taken the show. Even 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.000 if the show had been lame, he would have never 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:57.000 gotten married, right. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:58.000 Wouldn't have to go through all that. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.720 But then I would never would have met my soulmate. 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.520 I never would have moved to San Francisco or Los 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.480 Angeles and chase that maybe in a different way, Well. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.040 You would have been in Los Angeles because the real 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.240 world was in Los Angeles. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.280 Want been in latter quicker. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:12.640 But it could also have been a failure and a 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.640 flop because it was the worst season, so awful, or 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.360 I could have saved the season or saved the show. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.559 Never know, I didn't know that he was offered a spot. 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.920 That's what Lunchbox always wanted. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.960 Everything he is but he I mean. 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:26.760 He is today is based on that show. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.040 But when I see that season, I'm like, I wouldn't 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.920 have been that season. Wouldn't have been fun to be on, 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:32.679 Like I wouldn't want to be offered that spot. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.319 But like Scuba saying, you could have changed that, Yeah, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.679 Like no, I don't think changed the whole thing. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:38.400 Secret Sauce. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.440 Yep, So we're about to do and play this whole thing. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:43.640 Was it fun for you? Was it amazing? 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:44.679 Oh my gosh, I. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.920 Was geeking out, like I had a smile from my 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.760 ear to ear, and Scoop was like, hey, man, if 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.520 you can keep it to thirty minutes, I was like, yeah, yeah. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.360 Thirty minutes, man, Yeah yeah. I think we talked for 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:54.959 like an hour and a half. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.480 Were they were they getting annoyed that you wouldn't let 0:10:58.559 --> 0:10:58.800 him go? 0:10:59.600 --> 0:10:59.760 Oh? 0:10:59.760 --> 0:10:59.840 No? 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:01.640 I think they loved it. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.520 Hey good, But now they loved that I was watching 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.600 them because I was running the cameras too, And it's 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.079 fun to see reality stars want and fight for camera 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:09.920 time because someone will be talking and they see me 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.040 zooming on them because they can monitor from the studio, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:13.720 and then they would be talking, oh I got a 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:14.920 story too, I got a story, and that I would 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.600 change the camera and zoom to them. So for me, 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:17.840 it was kind of like fishing a little bit for 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.160 who wants to talk? But they were talking and talking 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.679 and talking, and they wouldn't stop. They could have been 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.679 here for three or four hours I had. We almost 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.120 had to cut it off and it'd be like lunchbox, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:26.760 We got to go take home with the lunchbox. You 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.800 guys go finishes at home, plug their shows. Let's move on. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.640 We gotta go dude, Okay, So here it is. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.440 This is the Lunchbox, the Challenge Mania Special. Anything else 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.319 that I haven't said because I don't really know what's 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:36.880 going on here. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.520 No, we want to cursing. There is cursing. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.040 I was We're gonna get the E tag. Huh Yeah. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.959 Those are are so many curse words. It's hard to 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.480 find every single one, but by them or Lunchbox, Lunchbox 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.760 was clean. He was a very professional broadcaster. I would say, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:52.800 did a great job. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.960 But they're just reality show that That's just how they are. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.160 That's how they talk on the reality show. That's exactly 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:58.520 who they are. They were genuine. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:11:59.400 It was so fun. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:01.599 Artists come in, that's who they are. They curse and 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.960 they decide to throw on microphone. They're not gonna curse. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.640 I don't think it makes them less of who they 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:06.760 are if they don't. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.000 Well, I didn't say, hey, there's a podcast, keep it clean, man, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.520 Like I wanted PAULI to be who he is. I 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.680 wanted him to talk trash about bananas. I wanted to 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.000 hear the inside scoop you here, behind the scenes stuff that, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.880 oh man, blow your mind. 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.720 So everybody listening there will be bad words. We will 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.439 have an E tag. I'm sure next to this. I 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.360 hate the E tag on our podcast because that's not us. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.800 It's explessed. That means explicit. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:30.840 But it wasn't my fault. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.240 So maybe it was because I asked such good questions 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:34.840 that we had to get to because they got so 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:35.439 fired up. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.520 This is the Lunchbox Challenge Mania Special. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.360 Here you go, David. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:48.839 All right, cool, that's right, all right, lunch is good. 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.520 I'm good. Check chagging my on, you're good. Cool, all right, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.480 I'm rolling over here on video. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.640 Oh man, welcome guys. I'm Lunchbox and this is I mean, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.640 my super Bowl. I love having you guys. I met 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.240 Scott a few years ago. I am a die hard fan, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.319 so this is amazing. So I want to say welcome 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:07.080 to POULI. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.480 Mark, Avery and Adam and then Davies. I didn't know 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.240 you were coming to either, you know, hey, just random 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.920 show up. Thank you, So thanks for being here, guys. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.679 Thank you guys, thanks for the hospitality. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.360 A couple of times ago we were in Nashville, these 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.120 guys reached out. I forget it was through Mire, through 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.000 Derek when we did a show here. And I think 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.319 it's it's rare, but I believe we have a completely 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.680 new cast with us here today. Then put it into 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.840 that day, including Derek who can't be here. He sends 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.920 his regards. He loves you guys too. But but yeah, 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.440 that's what's cool about this is that we're kind of 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.520 doing our own little you know, every you know show 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.439 of the Real World Road Worles Challenge has its own 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.640 like organic you know, cast chemistry, and then now you 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:40.640 got a whole new slew. 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.160 Yeah, cast rolling the dice in there. This is what 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.040 you got today, baby. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.559 And then some of you guys don't know each other, 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.080 but a lot do. So do you guys all know 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:47.920 each other they're here? 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:48.560 Yeah? 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.120 Yes, I mean, I mean we never met. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.720 I haven't seen Mark since Trinidad in two thousand and five. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.480 I like, Paulie and I know each other virtually, but like, no, no, 0:13:58.720 --> 0:13:59.559 we met in Orlando. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.880 We also listen, we also met in Orlando. He was 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.760 just very tipsy in Orlando. He doesn't remember, do you know. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.600 When there's alcohol in flights, it's just it's a recipe 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:13.080 for awesome. 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.160 But we haven't been sober, really caught up in forever, 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:17.559 so it's good. It's nice to see everyone. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:22.000 Yeah, Davis, I haven't seen since forever forever, So yeah, 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:23.200 So I mean, how. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.600 Did you, like, how do you guys stay in there? 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.240 Just like, how does Davis if he hadn't been around, 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.200 how does he get back into the group with you guys? 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:28.320 Like? 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.360 How does this? How does it all die together? 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:31.480 We think? 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.840 I think one of the great things about what we 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.760 do when we're not shooting is stuff like this, right, 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.280 getting to travel all over different cities doing Challenge. Manias 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:47.000 and Scott always has a great knack of always interchanging 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.640 people that haven't seen each other in a while. 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.440 That makes sense. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.880 So the fact that we came here today and they're Carolina, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.280 I'm Florida, Pauli's Florida. 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:58.040 Now you're here, Davis is here, so it made sense. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.000 And you know, not a lot of other shows do 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.640 what we do in terms of getting back together so frequently. 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.120 So it's just by just shuffling the deck. Man it's and. 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.520 We're always I think we're always still big fans of 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.640 each other, so that's always good. 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:13.080 Well, these two, I feel. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.800 Like the Challenge is almost like Comic Con in a 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.000 way when it comes to the fandoms and the people. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.040 There's so many of us, Like I feel like Big 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.800 Brother can't do these pop ups or like Survivor can't 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.560 really do these pop ups as frequently as you have 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:24.920 said it. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.400 Up, there's not the connective tissue of you guys going 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.840 back and playing with each other and things like that. 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.360 Whereas like, because these two just played together on the 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:33.520 fortieth season. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:38.120 Paul three yeah, these three yea, these two. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.960 Met on All Stars four. I believe you. 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:44.240 Made your MTV debut two or three decades before hers, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:44.880 and now they're. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:50.080 Dating to get there, Like what brings you back after 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:50.840 so long? 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:52.160 Look at her? 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:55.800 We might have to pass out? 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.520 Is going to be there? Like what made you decide 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.200 to say yes when they call you again? 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.440 Okay, you never don't want to say yes. Maybe there 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.040 are some people, but it is a really amazing family. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.000 It's like but as soon as soon as you get 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.040 over the dysfunctional part of it and like kind of 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.400 accept that we're all super flawed, and but like when 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.040 we get together, we learn so much about each other. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.080 We have so much fun. Yes, we have to play 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:23.120 a game, but like I've been waiting to get back 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.760 into the family, you know what I mean, And to 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.720 have the opportunity to date somebody who actually can like 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.400 get what's going on when I'm away or she's away, 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.720 we like realize that it's not just a vacation. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.600 It's it because it's like, it's. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.280 Definitely not a vacation, right, You're definitely. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:38.560 Not a vacation. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.360 You're in a human experiment. And unless you have somebody 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.600 who's kind of like been through that trauma with you, 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.120 we're all trauma bonded. That's that's why we like to 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.160 get back together so we can watch our own compare 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.320 our train wreck of lives. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.160 And I think now with All Stars bringing back some 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.160 some of those faces that you grew up with. You know, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.480 Adam's a father now, a lot of the women on 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.040 the show now are mom's a He's kind of playing 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.320 a stepmom role, right, So, and I think having All 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.119 Stars being so fresh to the audience, I knew it 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.119 would be popular because when I sent the tweet out 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:15.040 on Twitter or x, it went crazy. So the fact 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.480 that people like Adam or Davis wants to come back, 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.120 the fact that there's now a platform where if they 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.159 come back, it's not weird anymore. It's like, oh, this 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.240 is all Stars. We expect Davis to come back, We 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.040 expect the Adam. So I think it's nice to have 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.160 that as a secondary show to the franchise show. And 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.240 you know, now they're kind of inter placing each other. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.960 There's All Stars on the franchise, Franchise on the All Stars. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.480 So it's a good little brother sister show, I think. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.920 And I need you guys to slow down though, because 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.919 there's an elevent in the room. I haven't watched this 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.560 season of All Stars, like The Rivals. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:46.080 I haven't. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.800 I just finished Battle the Eras and dissected that whole 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.920 thing and just was like, man, that was amazing. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.639 And it's like the next week All Stars Rivals, and 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.240 I'm like, guys, I need a break. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.560 I need to decompress, go through like who I thought 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.720 played the best game? What the show was? Like, how 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.480 are you guys doing them so fast? Can we slow 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:07.320 down a little bit? 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:08.440 You're not wrong? 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:09.160 Well, they pumped. 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.480 They actually they got him back to back in the 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.240 same country. They used a lot of the same crew, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:15.760 they used a lot of the same equipment. 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:16.280 Things like that. 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:17.720 That was more of the time a coin. 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.199 Yeah, and they use it, to be honest with you, 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.240 a lot of the same cast members got back on 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.240 a flight whent right, you know your Devn's, your John 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.840 A's had just done forty. They went and filmed All 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.520 Stars Leroy before forty even aired. So literally they went 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.520 they got done, I believe in May with forty and 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.439 they had All Stars in the can by the end 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.600 of July, all done back to back. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.720 So when you get eliminated, do they fly you home 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:42.479 or do you have to go to a hotel like 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.159 on Survivor because people can't know. 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:46.920 Eliminated, where'd they send you? 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.840 So I'll also be for Poulli and I we we 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:50.760 went together. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:52.720 I mean, I didn't want to ruin it, so like 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:53.680 you know, so. 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.920 When we got eliminated Vietnam, which was literally like four 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.120 o'clock in the morning, remember that. 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:00.000 You're not going to believe. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:01.800 So we went to what we thought was going to 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.960 be this amazing hotel. We went to a back alley 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.840 hostel and I remember going into the lobby and between 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.240 the desk and the lobby was a huge mountain dirt bike. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.239 So there's a motorcycle like in the between, and no 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.600 one was there, and it took forever to get our rooms. 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:21.800 I remember I finally got my room and I opened 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.720 my room. I just want to relax by myself because 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:25.760 I hadn't had a loone time if forever. And I 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:29.320 walk in and there's a Vietnamese couple in the bed 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.600 and they're like it's good to me, and I'm like, 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.760 oh man. So then I blew my top. I was like, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.800 if I don't get an f in room in the 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.520 next five minutes. So anyway, it just it wasn't as 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.480 glamorous as I thought it was going to. 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.480 Be because what they do to us is when we 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.760 first come in and you know, it's all the glam 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.200 of like everybody, Oh my god, you're on together. They 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.879 put us in this five star hotel, we're all just 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:56.280 like getting treated like royalty. Everybody's kind of hanging out. 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.439 You get access to the gym, you get food whenever 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.600 you want, you get whatever you want, you get limited 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:01.879 and they're just like fuck. 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:06.160 Off, and like we're in this back back like this hostel. 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.200 The power was going out all day. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.000 And now, mind you, in Vietnam prime like summer one 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.520 hundred degrees, one hundred plus humidity, the power goes off. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.240 Your room is an instant sweatbox and then all of 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.440 a sudden it comes back on and you're right in. 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:21.080 An ice box. 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.200 You walk out into the hallway immediately hit by there 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.479 nobody downstairs spoke English, so you're trying to ask them 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.159 where the best food places. 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:30.280 Are and they're just like staring at you. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.280 I mean you were hope you were just Mark never 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.400 loses his mind, So for Mark to blow is top. 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:35.840 Yeah. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.639 You just I guess when you're in a foreign country 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.359 like that and there's a language barrier and stuff, you're 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.159 expecting to have someone down there just at you know, 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.480 on post at all times. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.399 It's we didn't get that. So I remember a lot 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.760 of us were like, well when do you think we're leaving? 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:51.960 Like who's gonna tell us or come to our door? 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:53.280 But it all worked out. 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.040 But yeah, when you arrived to the to the show, 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.680 it's a lot more glamorous, I think than when you leave. 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:00.639 And you guys did so much complain that when they 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.600 did bring in these guys for All Stars five, they 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:05.240 had worked out some of those kinks. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:06.560 The conditions were a little. 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.639 Better their their house, their house, their house, and conditions 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.480 on All Stars five was head and shoulders above Season 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:13.920 forty because if you look at Season forty. 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:14.960 It looks amazing, right. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.639 Looks amazing, but but what it is well was a 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:22.159 little funny. Listen, I didn't really understand that part. I 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.439 totally agree with you down to cook and that was 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:25.000 all weird. 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.360 Let me let me speak on that. It looks amazing, right, 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.639 walk in, It looks amazing, but it's it's just a 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.120 shell of a house, right, so everything they brought in 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.560 wasn't so like we actually were using the bathroom outside 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.080 and porta potties and showering outside because it wasn't really 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:40.160 a functional house. 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:41.439 It looks great on a. 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.960 Movie, it's like a castle, but they didn't have showers 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:44.480 and castles. 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:48.000 So if you notice the kitchen, right, the kitchen with 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.600 the thing like THEO couldn't even I mean, I'm bending 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:51.600 down to try to do stuff. 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.920 So it was it looks amazing. 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.159 It looks amazing, and I think you know, some of 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.400 the fans were like, you guys were in this castle, 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:00.480 but like it's. 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.119 In not unless you've been there. You were there. 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.359 It wasn't mind the house because I hate bunk beds. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.119 So the fact that we each had our individual beds 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.080 and we had a back room for our closet that 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.200 had locker rooms for our clothes, because like, the biggest 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:14.880 pain in the ass is when you're in a house 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.960 and everybody has their suitcases in the room that has 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.440 bunk beds, you're vying for storage space. This house had 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.439 the storage space had single beds, so people weren't climbing 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:25.400 over you. 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:26.679 You know. I didn't mind it. 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.840 The showering in the bathrooms though, and the food definitely interesting, 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.320 but once again, the kitchen was made for somebody my size, 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:34.040 so I didn't mind it. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.119 And luckily for you, you weren't there very long. I 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:38.240 was there very long at all. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.240 I think I spent more time in the hostile hotel, 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:43.919 you know, recovering from my concussions than I did in 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:48.760 the house, which was another interesting, uh interesting thing to 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:49.520 have to witness. 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.840 So how long are you there before you start shooting 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.600 like you fly in? Do you start doing like physicals? 0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:58.320 You? 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.639 We were there, We were there for for for forty 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.040 We were there good week and a half. 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:03.760 Yeah, week and a half because we were waiting for other 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:04.919 cast members to show up. 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:06.200 That's extenuating circumstance. 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.840 So a game, a game was being played for a 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.000 week and a half with cameras not on. 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:12.920 There. 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:14.880 They don't they don't like it that that way. 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.440 There was one cast member that they really wanted who 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.520 could only start a little later than everyone else. 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:20.520 And that's what also I. 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:22.440 Think, wa wait, wait do you want to name names? 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:24.080 Well, they show it on the show. He comes at 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.520 Jordan comes in a little bit later. They all do 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.879 like this welcome party, and then all of a sudden, 0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:30.760 Jordan kind of shows up at the house and there's 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.399 just just crazy tracking shot of like behind him with 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.720 the cowboy hats and you see it's kind of badass 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:37.480 and whatnot. And they make it like it's this big, 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.200 glamorous entrance and finding good. But for that to have happened, 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:40.720 you guys. 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.960 Are waiting for ten days for and anyone on to 0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.399 win after coming in late, and this, you know crazy. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.480 The craziest thing was I remember waking up and someone 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.240 saying Jordan's here. I'm like, no way, and like, yeah, 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.879 he's here, I'm like where is he? Like you're just 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.479 hanging out down like it wasn't he They made it 0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:59.240 seem like this huge thing on TV. 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:01.119 But they just the time while we were sleeping. 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:02.800 Yeah, it like this shows up and I'm like, oh, 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:03.320 he is here. 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.600 Yeah, I mean they did do a whole thing where 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:07.880 he showed up at the Errors Invitational, was talking shit 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.760 to everybody. Yeah, and everybody's sitting there like he's the 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:11.520 first one going in. 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.920 Yeah. Never touches in elimination off season. You guys dropped 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:15.400 the ball there. 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.120 So that's where they Okay, so they had people flying 0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:23.720 in what was the one before, uh, Battle the Eras? 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:25.359 Was it a Battle for a new Champion? 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:26.240 Right? Yeah? 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.520 So is that filming the same spot too? 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.800 Because I felt like everybody that came in and battled 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.600 was on Battle the Eras, Like I felt like it 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.000 was a precursor. 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:37.560 Like a tease, like everytia. Wasn't it Battle for a 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:38.080 new Champion? 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:38.280 Yeah? 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:40.920 Croat? Yeah yeah, because they flew into Italy or something 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:41.600 like that, right, and. 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:45.200 They always pick international spot just for insurance, and it's 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:46.119 a lot way cheaper. 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.399 Now, are there any like stuff we don't see on 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.480 camera when you guys go out to these bars and 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.119 you have the bar to yourself, awkward as crap, Like 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:55.880 I mean, because you're already with the same people you're 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:57.399 in the house with. I like it back in the 0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:58.919 day when you'd go to the club and there was 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.200 random people at the then they're like, who are the 0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.840 hell of these people? That was my time, yes exactly, 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.000 But now they make it where you have the bar 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.280 to yourself. Is there any shadiness like where you're like, WHOA, 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.760 I don't think we should be like in these countries. 0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:12.280 No. 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.560 They I think that they protect us pretty well, like 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:17.280 we're always surrounded by security, almost to the point like 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.840 it's like if you didn't want people to notice that 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.000 we were there, well with them, you're going to notice 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.080 that we're there. Like it's almost like a production just 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.280 going into a place, like they stop, they like like 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.199 basically make a human wall. They like shush everybody in 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.639 and then close the door, like they they're very like 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.160 we're definitely little ducklings, I would say. 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:36.400 And then like filming wise, this is behind the curtain. 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:37.320 I want to know a little bit. 0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.080 When you're like walking out to the challenge or walking 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:41.840 back into the house, do they make you refilm that 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:42.359 ten times? 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.520 Yeah, one hundred percent. Oh exactly. 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.280 You needed these two shots and I don't drone shot. 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:48.800 I don't understand why. 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:50.840 Yeah, well, and I don't know. 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:51.919 What to use them. 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.800 You see what I'm talking about. Some pies they have 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:56.479 us brings. 0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.480 They're like, get us to bring eighty stuff or like 0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.600 gold for the gold party, and we have what we 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.400 think is the best time, probably one of the best events, 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:07.360 and then you don't even see it on like the episode, 0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.440 you realize just how little time there is for them 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.520 to get in every single bit of storyline. 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:13.000 Mark. 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:14.680 I don't know how it was back in the day 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.879 when you were mingling with the locals, but like, was 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:18.240 there any trouble that happened? 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.760 Oh, yeah, because CT did exist. 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:25.080 I mean back in a I remember in Jamaica with Shady, 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.680 Trinidad Tobago with Shady because we didn't clear the bars. 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.200 We just kind of went in as ourselves, and there 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.119 was there was people getting in arguments or fights. I 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.600 think one of the times a girl kissed a random 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.160 local at the bar. But it was it wasn't as 0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.000 safe back then, for sure, one hundred percent. Now now 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:45.760 it's like we know when we're going out and we 0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:47.120 know what it's gonna be, and a lot of times 0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:48.920 we're like, let's just all drink here. 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:50.919 It's like it's like what, I mean, why are we 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.600 going Because they had to change. 0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:55.720 Yes, a million percent. 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.040 So we're we're all tired. We're like we just have 0:26:58.119 --> 0:26:59.760 bars at the at the I mean beers at the 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:00.360 bar here. 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.200 Yeah, you get to the bar too, it's like three 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:04.680 hours later, no one wants. 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:05.120 To go out. 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.320 It's because by the time they actually do all the 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.600 exiting and entrance shots, and then you go out to 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:10.800 the bars, it's probably is. 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.920 Their music playing or they have to keep it no music. 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:14.600 And then there's sometimes like people. 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.280 Who aren't allowed certain drinks. So you'll go into a 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.560 bar and it's like all right, no brown liquor. Yeah, 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.840 and like and then and then certain people will leave 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:25.480 and then like you're coming to the same more the 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.560 next week. It's like can we you guys can drink 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:29.600 whatever you want, all right. 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:37.960 There's some people are just seeing like when Tony leaves. 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.920 So many house, everybody's like, all right, guys, you could 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:38.720 drink whatever you want. 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.160 Now they actually it's funny because back in the day 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.640 they would just you could have. 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.120 It was like you have whatever you want. But now 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:49.480 they like they'll dye the vodka bottles so blue national. 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.879 Yeah, so like they were I remember people pouring vodka 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.320 bottles and water bottles back then, but now like they'll 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.320 dye the vodka blues so you can see what they're 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.760 actually drinking. It's just it was the wild West back 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.680 and I remember on our days off in Trinidad and Tobago. 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.320 On my day off, Robin and I left the set, 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.720 went and rented a hotel away from everyone for two. 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.399 Days and then show back up. So like it was 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:10.920 like that. 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.720 So Mark has kids in Trinidad, got. 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.320 Little ones running around in Trinidad. 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.920 Wait, so, Adam, you kind of answered my question. I thought. 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.480 When I watched the parties, the theme parties, I thought, Okay, 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:26.080 they either had to tell you beforehand or they tell you, okay, 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.640 in two days, we're going to have this party. 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.280 What do you want? And they go to the store 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:30.320 and buy it for you. 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.760 They'll put together little liquor list, but like a lot 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.399 of the stuff, sometimes they won't even tell you. Be 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.520 like I mean, some like Derek will decide that we're 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.320 just going to have a palm tree party right to like, 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.320 or toga party. Yeah, toga party from the from Mexico, 0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.560 from Hurricane Juliet. That was that was where that whole 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:48.160 thing started. 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.959 Yeah, And they they'll they'll give you a heads up, 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.000 like hey, guys, bring some seventies gear and you know 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:53.480 what it's for. 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.080 But I mean a lot of. 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.920 The times, like like Adam was saying, it's like, you know, 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.040 you just show up and people like, hey, tonight, we're 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.360 gonna do a you know, a bikini thing or this, 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.520 or bring you your swim trunks. 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.520 How hard is it to stay enthused the whole day 0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.760 when you're at these challenges because on TV it looks 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:13.560 like it takes an hour thirty minutes, and you're obviously 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.280 there for eight hours because it's sunlight and it is dark. 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:18.680 So like, how do you guys? 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.600 I wanted to ask Mark and Adam this back in 0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.920 the day, how early would they be able to finish 0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:24.000 the challenges and wrap them? 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.600 Because I remember on my first three seasons we were. 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.840 Done by like three or four pm, which gave you 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:34.040 time to get back to the house, chill, relax, do deliberations. 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:34.640 Then go out. 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.719 And then in this newer time period, you're like on 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.240 set from eight am until like ten pm. You get 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:42.880 home at midnight and they're like, all right, guys, have 0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.440 enough energy to change, shower and go the fuck out 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.000 to the bar. Like one two pm, and I'm like, 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.680 is there a way to finish these faster during the day? 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.360 Do we need every single shot? Like? 0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:55.080 Are you getting all of our bulges with every shot here? 0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.920 Like I will say the more recent challenges takes because 0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.720 there's so much more technolog alge takes so much longer 0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.960 to film. Like you said, We're up sometimes on a 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.720 bus for two hours, do. 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.040 The thing, do all the stuff? 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:10.000 Come back, it's it's past dinner, and then they want 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.000 you to shower and go out real quick. But I 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.200 remember one of the greatest things was Battle the Sexes too. 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.600 We were in Santa Fe, New Mexico. We the boys 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.480 had a house and the girls had a house on 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:22.800 the on the set. We didn't really leave the set 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.080 the set at all to do challenges because they were 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.520 so kind of basic. So like we would just be like, 0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.960 walk out to our challenge, we would do it. It would 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.719 be two hours later we back in our house. It 0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:34.959 some was still out. We could bullshit around, so it 0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:38.560 was it was definitely less technical back in there. I 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.080 mean we did eventually go to like the big heights 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.120 stuff and the big car crashes, but back then it 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.240 was like, Okay, guys, you're gonna walk through this maze 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.280 of snakes and pick up these coins. So that was 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.720 like you don't really need to go anywhere for that. 0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.360 Are the challenges better now or were they better back then? 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.880 Because like they're more fun back then, they're better now? 0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:00.920 Okay, because like on Battle or the Eras, when they're 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.840 doing the car off the cliff and TJ is selling 0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:07.480 it like it is the coolest challenge ever. As a viewer, 0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.160 it was stupid. It was so stupid because they literally 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.840 didn't do anything. The bungee cord pulls them out and 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.600 the car goes over the cliff and then you just 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.920 drop in the water. It was nothing, and they added 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.640 like it was and I'm like, can we just get 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.000 back to the almost. 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:23.960 Almost and. 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.120 When you're doing it, you're doing it for the win 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.040 and the wind is awesome, right yes? That so so 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.600 not hard at all to get yourself amped up, not 0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.920 not even a little bit hard to get yourself amped up. 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.360 But like you kind of look into somebody who's like, 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:44.160 what's your favorite challenge, and I'm like, uh, eliminations were 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.880 actually my favorite, my favorite part, Like that some of 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.160 the challenges you do are like I don't know. In 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.560 the old days, we had dog remember dog fighting and 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.400 tell you're right and nice skydive, I mean there's pictures 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:59.280 of people jumping out of fucking airplanes with parachutes single parachuting, 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.080 laying on their own and they've. 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.640 Never taken a para shooting class. You like, find me 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.320 what insurance company? Who will insure it? Like there was 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.160 sky divemember with zero joke. 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.880 There was a challenge back in the day where they 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:16.360 had these these single engine planes and you you were 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.200 you were tethered, but you still dangerous. 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:19.160 You had to get out of your. 0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:23.600 Seat, climb on top of the plane, hook yourself in 0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.160 to this thing, and then the plane would do a 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.200 three sixty with you standing on it. 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.840 Like in terms of like insanity, like who checks that? 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:33.840 You know what I mean? Like, wait, you're talking about 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:34.360 crazy shit. 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:35.840 They kind of want to have their cake and eat 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.320 it too, since everything's so much safer now, they want 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.920 to have like the explosions or the thing falling off 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:42.960 a cliff. But they know that they can't do anything 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.000 half as unsafe as they used to do it. So 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.320 what they do is they'll have like an explosion go off, 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.480 but it'll have nothing to do with what they actually did. 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.440 Like they solve a puzzle and then there's an explosion 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.680 or a cargoes off a cliff and then they have to. 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:59.240 Do and you're like, specifically told Bessie did jumping through? 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:00.720 Is that on fire? 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:03.120 I wanted to do that too. 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.360 I was like, can I every second count? Right? 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:06.760 DJ? 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:07.720 Could we jump through? 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.960 When He's like, absolutely not, that was the most fasty 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:12.400 thing to do right through. 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:14.320 Well, it was a shock that he was the one 0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:14.760 that did that. 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:20.400 No, So, Paulie, when you come from Big Brother, Yeah, like, 0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:24.280 is it hard to acclimate? Is it like everybody automatically like, oh, 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.560 you're a big Brother, you don't know how to do 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.160 this crap? Like you're you're you're an outsider? How does 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.560 that work? And how does it in your guys' eyes 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:32.680 when you have Big Brother, Survivor. 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.000 You got Michelle, you got all them? Is it like? Man, 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.120 you guys are just posers? 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.320 I think, And then I'll let paul you get finish this. 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.560 But I think in terms of Big Brother and Survivor 0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.200 coming in, I think they're actually equal or better strategic 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.560 players than the Challenge players because the Challenge players are 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.000 more I think just back in the day at least 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:52.840 we're very physical and party did it. But their show 0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:54.680 is like Big Brother, you have to be very strategic, 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:55.680 and same with Survivor. 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:58.520 Yeah, I mean, I think when I came on, I 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.080 adapted to the MTV style of playing because I just 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.280 personally liked it better because in Big Brother and Survivor 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.160 you kind of have to be nice and you almost 0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.000 have to like play a strategic game because it's a 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.600 voting thing, whereas like in the Challenge you could kind 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.279 of sit there and be like, well, I'll do whatever 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.400 I want because you got to throw me in to 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:14.839 go home. 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.520 And it wasn't too hard to adapt. 0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.080 I mean, especially when you're watching people like Johnny and 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.759 CT and West for years, you're like, all right, they're 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.439 doing the exact same thing that they've always done. There's 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.319 not really much changing from their strategy. I do think 0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:30.359 that Challengers are a little bit better in terms of 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.719 exchanging social currency because they understand that this is a 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.919 game where you do come back, whereas like Big Brother 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.560 players and Survivor players will go. 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:39.680 In and kind of do it. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.960 I would like to think that when I was on 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.120 in the beginning, we didn't play like Big Brother Survivor players, 0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.640 but I feel like the Big Brother and Survivor players 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.719 that have come in after definitely have changed the game 0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:55.920 to be a little bit more snaky, playing in the shadows, 0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.239 you know, saying you're working with somebody but then also 0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.560 working with their to me and trying to keep yourself 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.240 in that like on the fence position. 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:04.719 And I don't really like that. 0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:07.239 The only reason why I even stand up for my 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.480 CBS people now is because I feel like they're pussies 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:13.120 and they just get shipped on online and they're just like, 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:14.920 we're not going to tweet back, and they get shipped 0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:16.640 on in the house and we're. 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:17.239 Not going to argue back. 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.160 And I'm like, I hate that you guys are so 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.680 soft and you don't have a backbone and stand up 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.040 for yourselves. So I guess I'll be the asshole that 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.280 is always, you know, doing dumb shit and like getting 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.560 into trouble on social media and everything. 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.919 But like you, I only do that because I only 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.920 do that because they're literally getting shipped on and not 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:36.680 doing anything. 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:39.200 Like they wouldn't. 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.120 I fucking paved the way for his shoulder. 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:44.520 This is what I was gonna say. 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:48.880 Most rookies come in and play like little bitches. Paulie, 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.239 you came in like you were going to set the 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:52.960 house on fire, Like you came. 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.319 In like look, mother, I'm here. 0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.120 And you acted like a vet, like you had big balls, 0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:58.560 where most rookies are. 0:35:58.440 --> 0:35:59.520 Like, yeah, I'm a rookie. 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.279 I guess I'm to go in, you know what I mean, 0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.360 Like that's they won't vote for a veteran. You, on 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.680 the other hand, like why why why rookies like that? 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:09.279 I don't know. 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.439 I mean I think that hit listen that dives into 0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.400 like what my childhood was like, and what my it 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:19.279 was like Italian, you know, all these things. But I 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:20.960 also think I came in a little bit later. My 0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.040 frontal lobe was a little developed, so when these guys 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.799 tried to use their usual tactics of gas lighting and narcissism, 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.480 I was like, you guys are fucking dumb, and I 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.000 think I can outsmart you guys for the most part. 0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.080 And I think that's what it was like. I remember 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:35.759 walking into a. 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.160 Room and them kind of be like, you know, I 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.600 think it was you that said this, Polly, and I 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.400 was like, all right, here's what we're not gonna do 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.680 is lie. But if you guys want to throw me in, 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.160 just say you want to throw me in, but don't 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.239 do this whole fucking bullshit of like, oh you would 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.080 do Like, no, I didn't say that. You guys need 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.680 a reason to throw somebody in. You're fucking pussy and 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.359 that is what it is, you know what I mean? 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.680 And and also like I feel like rookies, they they 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.080 bend the knee. So it's like I was pissed that 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.200 I got ganged up on. I'd go to this stupid 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.480 ass redemption house and you know, I have the opportunity 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.360 to send people's girlfriends home, and I fucking did. And 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:09.840 they were like why did you do that? That was 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:11.359 kind of like a stupid move, And I was like 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.440 is it stupid? I was like, you pissed me off? 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.239 I said, so why wouldn't I send your girlfriend's home 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.000 and tell you that they were banging people in the 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:18.839 Redemption house to fuck with your head? 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:20.680 Like what am I gonna do? You sent me into 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:21.319 the Redemption house. 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.520 I'm supposed to come back and be like, yes, mister Vett, 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.719 let me get on my knees and suck your dick. No, 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.799 thank you, like not happening. Sorry, Rachel, We'll be right 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:35.920 back there. So let's compare the Big Brother House to 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.960 a Challenge house. Yeah, like I watched I just started. 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.600 Watching Big Brother during COVID because I never watched it, 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.160 and I am like, that has to be of those 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.400 most boring house in the world because you really have 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.320 nothing to do, at least on the challenge. 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:50.600 On real World you can go swim in the pool, 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:52.680 Like is it just like night and day? 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.640 The Challenge has is so much better. The challenge experience 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.439 is so much better. I say this all the time. 0:37:57.920 --> 0:37:59.960 Big Brother House isn't a house, it's a studio live 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.799 and the backyard is shut off for four days out 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.520 of the week, so you're getting deprived sunlight. You don't 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.240 have windows, it's mirrors with cameras behind them. 0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:09.880 It's a very small house. 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.480 Like the house is like a little bit bigger than 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.560 like maybe just this section. And then you have like that, 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:20.080 you have sixteen people, two bathrooms. It's disgusting. There's aunt infestations. 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.520 You have people over the loudspeakers constantly like playing these 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:28.200 mental games with you, like Scott, please stop singing, Scott, 0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.160 please don't do movie quotes, and like they're doing it 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.920 say like mentally make you break, So I hate it. 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.840 The Challenge House is like night and day different, Like 0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:39.520 I'm on vacation when I'm in the Challenge House. 0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.600 Okay, so you said vacation, they said work. 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:45.239 So yeah, how much enjoyment, Like is it a little 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.120 bit like there's times in the house where you're just 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.440 relaxing and you're not doing game or is it always 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:51.759 you're stressed about the game. 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.400 What I found interesting, especially on forty because listen, I 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:57.080 came from the very very beginning, and it was. 0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.200 And it used to be just party party. 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:04.080 It was it was party party, no, but it was dud. 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:05.839 There was no they didn't have a gym for us. 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.200 Back then, there was no gym. They had endless booze, 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:12.160 but no gym. But back then it was like party, party, party. Oh, 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.200 we have a challenge to do in six hours. Okay, 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.520 let's maybe go to bed now. Like now, what I 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.600 noticed in forty, especially Era three and Era four, was 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.359 I would walk over to their area during the day 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.719 and they'd be like doing puzzles and studying and all 0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:28.600 this almost like doing homework, right, and all. 0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:29.520 Stars were in there. 0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:33.759 Nowadays, and I'm like we referud to like all these 0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.040 new people of the new era, and definitely everybody comes 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.879 a new era, like yeah, but they're like or. 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:42.239 Maybe she's not. 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.759 She's read on the cuspy because she already shared at 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.520 least ten weeks of her life on real world, and which. 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:48.800 I know somebody that deep. 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:50.920 It's tough for them to go on a game when 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:55.160 you haven't already like divulged your like utmost vulnerabilities to 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:58.480 the entire fucking world and they already know you're like 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.920 how many brothers, sisters where I grew up all that 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.160 type of stuff. It's so much easier for them to like, 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.399 youse shit against me and like, and I don't even 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.160 realize that they're playing a game and constantly doing I mean, 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.960 I'm gonna start changing things up now because you know, 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:12.239 coming out of the nursing home. 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:12.640 They don't. 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:13.200 But they don't. 0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.279 They don't let us out multiple times in a row 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:18.200 unless we come back, like you know, with a gun story. 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:20.279 I did notice that some of those younger players are 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:25.360 very into studying during like when you're not shooting, Whereas 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.080 back in the day it was it was either challenge 0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.279 or what are we doing to have a good time. 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.400 There was never like let's do Sudoku or let's do 0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:38.360 this puzzle games back like I Thinkland Thyland, Kyland, especially 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.040 Kyland had a book and was doing stuff every minute 0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.080 of the day, and like, I'm he's super smart guy 0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.840 and he's very strategic. But I'm like, dude, are you 0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:47.479 having fun? 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:47.640 No? 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.680 No, he I'm like you got it too nice to them, though, 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:52.960 like you just let them study and stuff. Like if 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.160 you walked in and was like nerd, like quit your 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.320 study and you lose her and like start a round them. 0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.600 I say, like the last like what for years fires 0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.840 people started like really amping up on like the puzzles yeah. 0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.680 Like three yeah, and the trivia and like you know 0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.440 what I hate. I told them in the car. I 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.839 told I told them in the car. If I watch 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:17.000 the challenge now, it's like eighty percent puzzles, and I'm like, 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:20.759 what the fuck. I'm like, let's go back to where 0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.680 it was just fun, goofy stuff. It doesn't have to 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.120 be all like a marathon and all that. 0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.040 Let's do the rubbing of this, right, but like this 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.439 it's like it's like come on, you guys, somebody yeah, 0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.880 because let's go yeah, but now it's like you have 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:36.480 five pentagons in front of you. 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:37.080 This is all. 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:38.479 It's like, it's like enough. 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.640 It's like, especially as a viewer, like why am I 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.480 going to watch them do a puzzle when they could 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.440 be in speedos fucking melting ice with their bodies. 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.680 You know, we're just switching up every now and then 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.879 everything has a puzzle comput but it's always. 0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.839 A puzzle now, And I'm like, Jesus enough with the thought, Okay, 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:53.600 what about the eating? 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:54.800 Is the eating stupid? 0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.839 I don't mind the eating because I don't mind it, 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.120 but like they don't do that all with like that 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.040 is that's used sporadically at a perfect time, and I 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.480 think in the games usually finals and whatnot. But like 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:08.200 it's not like it's every challenge is an eating challenge, 0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.160 but the puzzle thing, man, holy shit. 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:14.080 And the eating challenge at least like on our season, 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.440 not the one that just like the normal one wasn't 0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:19.440 that crazy, Like sometimes it's fun. It could be a 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:23.000 little bit of an equalizer when it is like really crazy. 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.040 Now they're super sensitive to dietary restrictions, which is like 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.279 counterintuitive to the whole thing. Like they'll be like all right, 0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.759 So you guys are gonna have to eat these fishballs. 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.239 There's this tofu with Maya. You can eat this shoelace. 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:39.279 Haha, we got you. 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:40.960 We dipped it in mud first. 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:40.960 And. 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.120 They thought they had me. They were like, this is 0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.200 a vegan shiit. I was like, yeah, but is it keto? 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:54.080 Oh glad we got a joke. But I love how 0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:56.279 like the point of these is to torture. But then 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:57.920 they're like, but we're gonna do it, like, you know, 0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:59.200 in an inclusive way. 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.560 We're gonna tour tore you get the peanut butter. 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:03.759 I'd never make you eat nuts. 0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.840 Come on, you know, Like I just don't get it 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.960 because everybody, I remember, everybody made fun of Final Reckoning 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.040 so badly for just how soft it had gotten. And 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.640 then Booth literally murdered us for War the World's one 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:16.680 and War the World two, and then it kind of 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.160 went back to wait, don't don't kill him that much. 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.879 Let's let's give people options. You know, when they cast 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.960 Jose knowing he couldn't swim, and he jumped in a 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.440 pool without a life checker, not like an idiot, and 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.919 almost sunk to the bottom and drowned, like can we. 0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:34.040 Go back to like not caring about our health, like 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:35.040 just a little bit. 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:39.279 Like the Battle of the Eras the final, it was 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.920 it the stupidest, most unfair final in the history of 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:42.440 the Challenge. 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:47.960 Well, I hear Shortan beforehand. No, pretty equal. Jordan's the 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:48.560 best swimmer. 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:49.960 I get that, but. 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.000 Again, you have to you know, the problem is too 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:56.759 is and Paulie, We've had this conversation before, is a 0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.960 lot of the top tier executives don't come from a competitive, 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:04.200 like a real physical competitive background, So when you see 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.680 stuff like that, you're you're just like, man, this just 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.240 doesn't make sense, Like this is this is not evening 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:12.439 the playing field by by any means. If anything, it's 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:16.160 skewing it the furthest So I don't know. I love 0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.000 some of the challenges that they do. I think they're great, 0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:19.600 but some of them I scratched my head and I'm like, 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:23.200 why why this? You know, even the elimination he just 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.120 did where they're like they saved, like it's the biggler. 0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.080 It's the biggest elimination, right, it's the biggest one who 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.000 goes to the final and your toughest teams. 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:34.480 Yeah, and the elimination was just so like subpar. 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.200 It was like a guessing chance game, and like everyone 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.200 was like, man, I would rather than like balance this 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:42.160 and then pull this or this this and then do 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.239 it like but it was just that to have that 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:46.160 as the last one seemed a little out of play. 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:48.600 You haven't watched it, but for instance, like this season 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.279 of All Stars, and I think even the last one, 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.120 there's there's no haul brawl, there's no poll wrestle, there's 0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:56.160 no balls in a lot of the quintessential challenge eliminations 0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.080 that are pretty low fine and easy to set up. 0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.200 And I would argue even at like you know, like 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.200 you guys on All Stars were doing you and Littari 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.279 and things like that, so you can't even really say that, 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:05.680 like you know, when you're getting up there in age 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.759 it's less safe. But for whatever reason, they've kind of 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.440 stripped All Stars of those completely and replaced it with 0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.400 you were literally guessing whether Nanni had something in a 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.200 box that was the elimination. 0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:17.799 It was really it was really scary to go into 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.680 those eliminations and know that it's a coin flip, right, yeah, 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.880 because initially I want to I want like Steve and 0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:25.279 I kind of had something to prove as soon as 0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:27.160 your guys, as soon as they were like, oh it, 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.399 all male teams have such an advantage. I was like, fuck, 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:32.880 let's just take everybody out. Everyone they're gonna do this 0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.640 to us. Let's just destroy every single person. And Steve's like, 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.720 look at these man, He's like another team goes into 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.840 that first one like Beth and John A could have 0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:46.200 beat us, like they're one is crazy one one little thing. 0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.759 And so you wonder, You're like, are they planning these 0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:50.960 do they how much time do they have before the day? 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:55.080 Could they change it up? Like so basically that call 0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:58.759 your bluff and then the chopstick carry was that set 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.680 up or did they do that for Turbo and not 0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:02.719 against Steve? 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.879 And I like to I want to. 0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.600 Know you want to be crazy And I don't know 0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.359 if the Godfather can do this. I mean, he can 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.200 almost walk on water at this point with what he 0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.200 with All Stars. But do I feel like I feel 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.760 like there were almost at a time where there could 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:22.520 be a panel of the more sage veteran people to 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.920 be able to work hand in hand with Buna, Murray 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:29.799 and MTV in order to almost make it the ultimate show, right, 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.080 because you guys have done enough where you guys could 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.319 have those conversations with the higher up executives and be like, hey, 0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.279 we're gonna have a Mark long. He's not competing on 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.439 this season, but he's going to be in that back 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:42.280 room with the TVs and he's going to be listening 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:44.640 in on the conversations and he's going to be doing 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.000 these things right, Like, is there a transition for these 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:49.880 people who have been there for so long, put so 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.319 much blood, sweat and tears in where yeah, they could 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:54.520 go and compete on an All Stars or a flagship, 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:56.920 or they could be behind the scenes and they're the executives. 0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:58.759 I know it's a no no because it's like once 0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:00.839 you're behind the scenes, you can't go in because then 0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:02.640 you know too much and then you know this and that. 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:05.560 But is there not room for a panel where maybe 0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:07.719 if they're not on the shows behind the scenes, they 0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.480 could at least meet once a quarter with Bun and 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:11.920 Mary and MTV and be like, here's what we're thinking, guys, 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:14.719 and this is what we think could make the show better. 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.239 And they almost act like a board of executives for 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:18.080 the challenge. 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.440 That's literally how every other industry sport, like players become 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:27.000 coaches and executives and general managers. Actors become directors and producers. 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:30.880 The only industry that doesn't work that way is reality TV, 0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:34.400 because then it would somehow let the cat out of 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:35.160 the bag. 0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:36.640 That it's really not that hard to do this. 0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.680 Stuff, and they have to pretend. 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.479 They have to pretend that, like, oh, no, you guys 0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:43.719 are good at being on the show. But like the 0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:47.440 years of experience I had getting coffee that then too, 0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.440 coming up with what people were going to wear in 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.839 an interview chair, and then who should swing from what vine? 0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:54.279 And oh what kind of car are we going to 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.759 throw off that mountain? That's too much for you, Mark, 0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:58.520 I don't think you'd be good at helping with that. 0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:00.560 Well, some of those are like what Mark said, Like Mark, 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.319 and a lot of people come from physical backgrounds, whether 0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:04.239 you played sports or not. 0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.360 Do we really want the theater kids. 0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:09.320 Being like, yeah, you know, I think this is safe 0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.680 if they jump from that to that because they thought 0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.680 it up and wrote it down in like their diary 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:14.560 in high school. 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.800 One of the things that I noticed is, for instance, 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:19.880 like the elimination. 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:21.000 I don't know if you've seen this. 0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:24.040 But when Derek and Hirasia were doing the pegs, yes, 0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.919 and they stopped them before the thing and they said 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:30.640 to Derek and Rosso, guys, the pegs are gonna fall out. 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:32.960 Just ignore that and keep going once you have it in, 0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:34.960 if it falls it It's like but to me, it's like, 0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:38.000 why is it even an option that the pegs are 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.680 fucking gonna fall out? If that's gonna be in the 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.760 pre production it no drill a hole so they stick 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.480 through like some just small stuff like that. 0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.160 I'm like, why leave it to that? 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.840 Now the audience sees this, it's a big fucking huge 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:55.080 deal online that did Hirasso get screwed? Tod Derek cheat 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:58.160 did this? It's like simple is that. It's like those 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.680 kind of like eliminations or those kind of choices that 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:02.680 they make in terms of production, to me is so 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:07.399 simple to fix. And what Pauli was saying, I would 0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.400 love to craft some of these eliminations or some of 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:15.520 these challenges, but there's such a hard line between cast 0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.920 and production. It's almost impossible because, like Scott said, they 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:23.040 don't want to cross that line because they like to 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.520 have one hundred percent of the power, and I think 0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:29.319 one hundred percent of the reward for it for doing 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.279 the show. So it is what it is. I mean, 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:33.360 I'm lucky I got all stars off the ground. To 0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:34.600 be honest, they would rather. 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.799 And I'm not even talking about present company included, they 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.120 would rather just send someone a check and be like 0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:43.600 thanks for the idea. We'd rather you do absolutely nothing 0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.279 than be like, hey, come out here and like just 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:47.920 approve everything, make sure everything's good. I'm just not how 0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.560 about you try the elimination. Let's see what a two 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.360 hundred and thirty pound challenger who's doing this instead of no, 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.279 we'll have like an intern try it. And then when 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.760 Corey does it, well, he is a lot faster than Josh. 0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:00.480 We probably should have had someone else do that. 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.160 Or like they're like, we we test all of these daily. 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.719 It's like, yeah, you test it for fun, as if 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:07.000 you're at like a birthday party. 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.400 We're doing it full speed, competing for money. 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.160 Two different It's like it's difference between touch football and 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:16.680 tackle football in the NFL, almost like it's that night 0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:19.239 and day. And it's also just so crazy to me that, 0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:21.719 like I think they just don't want to see the 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:26.839 gaps of inefficiencies because I know that the talent coordinators 0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:28.960 don't talk to the lighting coordinators, who don't talk to 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.959 the sound coordinators. And you would think that everybody would 0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:33.800 be on the same page to be like, all right, guys, 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:36.040 so is sound and lighting ready? 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.040 Are the cameras ready? Okay? Great? Now we could bring 0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.120 the cast in to get this going right away. 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:45.000 But what happens is the talent coordinator gets told we 0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:47.880 need the cast there at six am, and fucking lighting 0:50:47.920 --> 0:50:50.600 and sounding and video haven't even coordinated yet whether. 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:51.480 They're fucking set up. 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:52.880 So it's like standing. 0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:54.920 So then we're standing around for four hours whe our 0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.440 dicks in our hands or you know, tits in our hands. 0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.360 And and I don't think they want us to see that, 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:03.279 because I mean, Mark's a smart guy, Adam smart guy, 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:06.000 Avery smart girl, Scott smart guy. I'm not that smart 0:51:06.080 --> 0:51:09.160 Davis over here keeping a chill like it wouldn't be 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:10.799 too hard to be like, all right, guys, what if 0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:14.040 we had one line of communication for everybody to only 0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:18.600 communicate how far away you are from being ready to roll? 0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.080 We've never we've never and you guys know this, you'd 0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.839 never roll no challenge without waiting at least an hour 0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:24.840 and a half two hours. 0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:29.839 Really, ever, don't you guys hurry up and wait? Making 0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:30.759 you hurry up and wait? 0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:31.399 No? 0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:34.680 Never, the best is the best, is right were we 0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:36.640 We got in this room and we were recording with 0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:37.560 he remembers. 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.120 Radio is almost live all the time. Yeah, it's different 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.239 live versus like I lived in Hollywood and work for 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.719 Doctor Phil for a while and that was like a 0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:46.359 hurry up and wait scenario and like the same kind 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:48.280 of thing where it's like you wait for someone's coffee 0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:49.960 to come. They're not starting to think at their coffee 0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:52.200 and so instead waiting on a guest coming from Mancho Cucamonga. 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.359 There take it forever there's traffic on the five. It's 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:57.800 this like whole day shoot for a forty five minute production, 0:51:58.160 --> 0:51:59.040 which is unbelievable. 0:51:59.080 --> 0:51:59.520 With here, it's like. 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.440 Bloom boom bom boom bom boom boom boom boom, Like 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.360 holy shit, how much do we do today? It just 0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.200 goes so much faster and radio versus television. 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:07.040 But it's also like they come from HIM to be 0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:10.640 like I came from CBS where every day you knew 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.960 when the when the Huahe competition was, when the Veto 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.120 competition was and exactly what part of the day it 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:18.080 was happening and when it was going to end, and 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:19.320 it was ran so efficiently. 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.759 It's like the curtain opens up, you're lined about the door, 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.080 you go out, big energy, you do the competition, you 0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:27.560 come back in, you wait, and it was just and 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.120 everything was just boom boom boom boom boom. Now, granted 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:33.759 they're honest, but you're also shooting live to tape. Some 0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:37.120 of it's airing actually live. Other episodes are being cut 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:40.160 and aired three days later. So you be you can't 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.520 be that. You can't be you can't be inefficient. 0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:44.520 We have the live feeds going NonStop and we have 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:47.600 three episodes a week being edited in real time based 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.280 off of what is being seen and shown. 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:51.960 We could create some live feeds and we had a 0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:54.560 road rules that we almost did live. And then I 0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:56.440 feel like there's a lot of people that want to 0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:59.759 watch more stuff afterwards, like why don't like make the 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:02.279 show for like make the show right, Yeah, but then 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:04.960 why not show the entire U Have you. 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:08.120 Ever followed the Big Brother Twitter their rabbit like they 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:10.359 will be like they'll be like, did you see when 0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:11.920 she walked out of the room? The way he kind 0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:14.400 of looked at her. That was a microaggression. He's racist. 0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:19.200 Let's get him found in real estate relationship, not even 0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:20.640 to get off the ground. And we've been like, do 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:22.640 you see the way Adam stares at Avery ass like 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:24.520 he's totally a predator dude. 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:28.560 No, No, like seriously, like there's a big brother guy. 0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:30.120 I don't even know who the guy is. I like, 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.440 my wife got me watching my brother. Like I said 0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:36.239 during COVID that live tweets the whole day and I'm like, 0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:38.400 does he have people that work for him or does 0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:40.040 he stay up the entire time and do it? 0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:41.879 Like how do the people do it? Right? 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:45.040 Our c article whatever it's called, Yeah, whatever, they are there. 0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.319 You know what you know it was you know when 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.200 I knew we were in for it on season forty, 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:52.400 this was like the best is the first challenge? 0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:53.359 Very no, the very. 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.719 First morning when we woke up in the castle, we 0:53:56.760 --> 0:54:00.680 went down and there was granted, there's forty cast members, 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:06.240 a lot of people. So instead of having like three 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.120 instant coffee machines, right because everyone wants coffee when they 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:14.920 wake up, they had a one espresso machine and you 0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:18.680 had to grind your own beans to fucking do your coffee. 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.720 And I'm like, if you want us ready in thirty minutes, 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:25.360 you're thinking forty people are gonna grind their own beans. 0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:29.239 Like you're instantly setting people in the worst pissed off 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.600 mood ever. And I remember blowing a gas and I'm like, 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.479 I'm like, how simple is again? 0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:35.040 What puzzin? 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.399 They should have a cast member walk through that house 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:39.839 a week before and be like, this isn't gonna work. 0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:42.040 We need more of this? Could you guys do that? 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.760 The girls aren't gonna change with the wide open areas, 0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:46.520 which they had to fix in two days because it 0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:49.040 was girls were changing wide open in front of everyone. 0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:52.000 So like just basic stuff like that that you would 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.879 think would be such an easy fix. Like the very 0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.400 first morning, we didn't even have eggs or any American 0:54:57.440 --> 0:54:58.920 breakfa It was all Vietnamese stuff. 0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:02.520 Everyone laughed. We're like, this is fucking bullshitting, like frog. 0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:06.080 Lea yeah, And that explains why Tony wanted. 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:08.319 To leave Tina. Tina the first night. 0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:10.560 Tina the first night was like I'm not staying here. 0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:13.040 She's like, I am not saying get me, get me. 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.200 The most top producer on the phone I'm like, I'm 0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:17.440 not staying here, and he talked her back down off 0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:20.719 the ledge. But like it was not that we're being 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:23.880 Prima Donna's. It's just like, dude, we are talent, right right. 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:26.319 We just want to fucking be normal. Like give us 0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:29.360 a coffee machine, give us some fucking American breakfast. 0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:31.040 You know. It's like it's very simple stuff. 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:34.560 And I and look, if if the show was they're 0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:38.280 roughing it and we're gonna get yeah, like that's different. 0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:39.440 But when you go into this. 0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:40.799 One coffee baker. 0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:44.960 Yeah yeah. 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:46.960 But when you go into this season forty where it's 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.319 supposed to be this huge thing and like some of 0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:52.000 the things that like ten years ago were better, You're 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:53.680 just like, man, this is this is what do they 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:54.480 save the budget on. 0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:58.600 I know you I said it was work, but I 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:00.800 felt like I was at a like a wellness resort. 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:03.120 I mean All Stars is a completely different thing. So 0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:04.879 I've got to I mean we had like, but. 0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:07.200 Who has a major hand in All Stars? 0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:09.880 Well, but they also treat you better because you're older, 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:11.520 right old? 0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:13.040 Is that yeah? 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:14.400 Right? I think that's what it is. 0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:16.160 I mean they here's the deal. 0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:19.279 They have to be in a better house, they have 0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:22.240 to be taken care of because there's no i mean, 0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:24.480 the incentive for them to leave their families. 0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:26.600 You know, Adam has two girls. 0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.160 Like the incentive has to be more than just you know, 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:30.920 I'm gonna be away for three months and hopefully I'll 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:32.440 win a million dollars. Like, you know, some of the 0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:35.680 younger kids who don't have families yet, that's that's a like, hell, yeah, 0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:37.880 I'm doing that. But in terms of like jehan A's 0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:40.960 who have kids, you know, Adam, even Avery now being 0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:44.640 in a step mom figure. So it's like you have 0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:46.239 to make it nice. So some of these people that 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:48.480 haven't done it in fifteen years are like, yeah, that 0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:49.640 sounds like a really good time. 0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:50.360 I'm gonna go do that. 0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:52.319 Yeah, that's how you bring the joke back. That's how 0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:56.200 you get them involved exactly. So when Tony everybody thinks 0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:57.840 he wanted to leave, he was there with the paycheck. 0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:00.920 How what how Avery? You can speak on that, But 0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:03.400 how often does this happen for Tony? 0:57:03.440 --> 0:57:04.080 Pretty often. 0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:06.600 There's a lot of cast members that go and collect 0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:06.959 the check. 0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:07.719 I think on. 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.279 They go there, it's vacation. They get it. But that's 0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:14.680 the thing. Gante that that could be regulated. But I 0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:16.400 don't understand crazy guarantees. 0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:19.760 They're like, you're guaranteed for eight weeks, like so two months. 0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:22.760 This person is guaranteed two months of money, where when 0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:24.880 I have to slave away in Okay. 0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:26.120 And that's my qualm. 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:30.400 With people showing up out of shape who get giant guarantees, 0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:33.240 like the Veronicas and like the Anissas, it's like, you 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:35.680 make so much money, you could fucking hire a personal 0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:38.600 trainer and a dietician in the months that you have off. 0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:41.240 You know, you're Anissa knows she's going back at least 0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:44.000 once a year. So does Veronica, you know what I mean. 0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:46.200 And it's like they get six figures. 0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:47.000 We're not. 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:49.520 Let's talk about what people get, but they talk about 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:50.760 it in terms of what it is. 0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.280 You can hire a personal trainer and put together a 0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:56.280 ten week program and get yourself in decent shape. Anissa 0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:58.160 looks great, now, you know what I mean. 0:57:58.280 --> 0:57:59.520 I haven't seen her, so I don't know. 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:01.240 She looks for nomenal, She's put in a lot of work. 0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.440 She finally listened. But some other people it's like what 0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:06.480 are you doing? And then it's like you do have 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:09.400 people that come back after a long time. Who look 0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:13.120 good like look at them, very good looking elderly men, Mark, 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:17.240 very good looking out of the men, Avery, Avery, absolute 0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:17.880 smoke show. 0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:20.640 Right, that's what people want to see when people. 0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:22.160 Are Scott great leather jacket. 0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:27.080 But here's the thing, here's the thing you're about your 0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:28.680 your fitness program and everything like that. 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:30.320 I love You're a season like. 0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:33.880 All Stars five, though I would I would play Devil's 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:36.880 advocate and say that not necessarily the best use of 0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:38.480 your time and money. Not to say you shouldn't just 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:42.200 be healthy regardless, but because that show was designed, as 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.600 you mentioned, when it comes out to the eliminations, the dailies, 0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:46.920 the fact that coming in last didn't even penalize you 0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:49.080 at all. The people who just played a good social 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:51.880 game and actually were less of physical threats on paper. 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.000 When you look across the field, they don't look like 0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:55.880 they're going to kick your ass tomorrow. Those are the 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.320 people that had the easier road to the end. Now 0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:00.000 we have our teams for the finals. I'm not saying 0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:01.640 that like some of them are a lot of them 0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:03.600 aren't in very good shape, but they didn't have to 0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:06.200 necessarily prove it to get there along the way other 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:08.840 than Adam and Steve who had to win five eliminations. 0:59:08.920 --> 0:59:10.560 But you know, I digress, but I agree. 0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:12.160 I mean, you gotta be in some kind of shape 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:14.880 because the first season of All Stars, the first episode 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:17.200 when they almost drowned. I mean, I was like, we 0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.520 got to stop. This guy's like, I'm a huge challenge fan, 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:20.760 but I was like getting nervous. 0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:22.880 About what they stopped was doing the tough challenges, not 0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:25.440 the like you know what I mean, they almost you know, 0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:26.960 that was so funny. 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:28.800 I was there. It was just hilarious. 0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:33.680 But Arissa was that of Arissa like just oh my god, 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:34.920 it was just fucking funny. 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:36.240 No, it's great, but at the end of the day, 0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.280 it is the well I will say this, Yeah, you know, 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:39.440 you know Myland is. 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:41.520 Getting tons of views. You know, shows up, shows getting 0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:42.720 tons of views, hot people. 0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:45.080 On, you know, shows up out of shape and starts 0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:47.080 working out. The first day he gets there. 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:48.120 Ctt yea. 0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.600 I will I will say that CT does not care. 0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:52.640 He gets there. Right when he gets there, it's like 0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:54.439 I'm going into boot camp. He likes. 0:59:54.640 --> 0:59:57.440 The smoking goes down, he starts working out, and You're like, oh, 0:59:57.760 --> 0:59:59.880 this is the guy's strategy. He just comes in out 0:59:59.920 --> 1:00:01.560 of shape, but then leaves like you know. 1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:02.360 Jacked up. 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:04.840 No no, because so he went in he got beat 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:06.680 I don't know what season was, he got beaten by 1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:11.840 j or someone or yes and the hanging thing too right, 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:14.080 and he was like wow, dude, And he came back 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:16.120 the next season he won it. He was still out 1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:18.440 of shape and he's like, you know what, what am 1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:19.960 I get in shape now? And he gets in shape 1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:22.280 and wins back to back and I'm like damn. But 1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:25.560 then when he shows up for battle to Arras, I'm like, CT, what. 1:00:25.560 --> 1:00:26.640 Have you been doing? Dude? 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:27.680 Like what you are? 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:30.320 Your your your fat CT. We don't need fat CT 1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:34.640 on TV. We need in shape. CT's like it's like, 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:36.840 I'm like, dude, you go ahead. 1:00:37.160 --> 1:00:39.680 City doesn't die on the toy does remind me physically 1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:39.880 of it. 1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:42.040 There's been I've seen pictures of Elvis and the where 1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:43.720 I go. This guy does look like CT. 1:00:45.000 --> 1:00:45.640 CT is. 1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:49.680 Actually he's a very different animal because, believe it or not, 1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:53.760 at that weight, he's still just his agile, which is crazy. 1:00:53.880 --> 1:00:55.960 Yeah, he's still just he might get out of breath. 1:00:56.440 --> 1:00:58.880 Zion Williamson, Okay, yeah. 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:03.400 He's he's just but you know, I saw some clips 1:01:03.400 --> 1:01:07.680 earlier him really young Cete, and he was like he 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:13.640 was so like leading man, strapping, handsome, you know, in shape, thin, 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:16.960 Like I'm like, man that that guy compared to this guy. 1:01:17.200 --> 1:01:19.360 Two totally different people in terms of body style. But 1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:20.480 do you see him on Traders? 1:01:21.480 --> 1:01:22.360 I didn't watch Traders. 1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:25.120 He shows up to that show with a bunch of 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:29.720 you know, housewives and survivor greats and gods and this 1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:34.800 and that and and out smarts and out you know, well, yeah, 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:38.440 you know, two years now, a statute of limitations. But 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:40.720 so okay, but I will okay, we'll say, but I'll 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:42.960 say he won the hearts of literally not just everyone 1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:44.640 on the show, but you had people who had never 1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:47.840 even heard of the challenge googling who is Christopher Tamborello. 1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:51.320 And because he's a swoozer, he's very good at he 1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:54.120 can he can adapt to whoever's around him, and which 1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:57.200 makes him phenomenal. Yeah, he can talk to the women, 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.160 he can, you know what I mean, Like he can 1:01:59.200 --> 1:01:59.800 do everything. 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:02.360 And when charming, yes, like. 1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:06.720 All the clips of him, Seriously, he's extremely charming. 1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:09.680 I've never met Johnny Banana, Like all the greats of 1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:13.360 our show. I came so far before them and wasn't 1:02:13.400 --> 1:02:15.400 involved like Mark, but I've never met any of them. 1:02:16.600 --> 1:02:21.000 Face Oh yeah, oh yeah, I remember he punched Adam 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:21.360 in the face. 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:25.560 I don't remember David he got picked. Yeah yeah. 1:02:25.600 --> 1:02:27.640 And then last night right on the show, Yeah, first 1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:29.480 night animals on the show when he punched Adam and 1:02:29.480 --> 1:02:31.080 I was thinking that he's doing this again. 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:35.240 This is I believe got brought in as his replacement 1:02:35.240 --> 1:02:37.800 on the season where CT got Yeah, all of. 1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:40.280 A sudden, Davis has got a big shiner on his cheek. 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:41.360 He was like, you just punched me. 1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:42.960 Wow, Okay. 1:02:43.040 --> 1:02:45.200 Now when people come up to you in public, is 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:46.480 it weird or people awkward? 1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:47.480 What do they yell at you? 1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:47.560 Like? 1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:48.560 How how does it work? 1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:49.640 No? 1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:52.640 They now they I was in the Orlando airport and 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:56.880 they come up like this. They almost whispering, hey, I know. 1:02:57.720 --> 1:02:59.800 So they'll come up like it, not like really, they're 1:02:59.840 --> 1:03:01.520 just like, hey, I know you. 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:03.720 From da da da da da? Uh? 1:03:03.920 --> 1:03:05.840 Can I do a picture real good? And of course 1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:07.640 I'm you know me, I'm just like yeah, let's do it. 1:03:07.680 --> 1:03:09.800 I'm very loud, but like I have people come up 1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:12.840 to me like they're like nervous to like make a 1:03:12.920 --> 1:03:14.560 scene about it, which is weird to me on mine, 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:15.640 just like come on up. 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:18.160 Because he markets it a lot because he's very big. 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:18.880 He's large. 1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:21.480 He gets the people notice him without even knowing who 1:03:21.560 --> 1:03:23.040 he is, and they start to try to figure out 1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:25.000 who he is. He's an athlete who is an actor. 1:03:25.000 --> 1:03:26.560 I know him from somewhere. I can't place it. 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:28.479 People someone thought you were on the shield or something. 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:31.200 Once there's an actor he kind of looks like but like, 1:03:31.480 --> 1:03:33.360 you know, we traveled quite a bit together and we 1:03:33.400 --> 1:03:36.360 go to what arenas swat and and he couldn't be 1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:37.560 nicer to every single person. 1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:38.960 But it's so funny because it's. 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:43.000 Everyone from for mark, especially from age six to literally 1:03:43.000 --> 1:03:45.480 I'm not kidding, like age eighty six. Well come up 1:03:45.520 --> 1:03:47.000 to him and they have something to say and they 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:48.040 want a photo and it's great. 1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:50.520 So there's a guy through Alanso Airport, a TSA guy 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:53.440 that to this day still thinks I'm on the CBS 1:03:53.480 --> 1:03:57.160 show Swat yea and he gives me the royal treatment 1:03:57.200 --> 1:03:58.480 when I got to the guy, yeah, he was on 1:03:58.520 --> 1:03:58.840 the shield. 1:03:59.040 --> 1:03:59.200 Name. 1:03:59.240 --> 1:04:00.720 The actor's name is Kenny Johnson. 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:01.800 Ye that's funny. 1:04:01.760 --> 1:04:05.040 Yeah, I've met Kenny Johnson, and Kenny Johnson has gotten 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:05.520 me before. 1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:06.880 Yeah. 1:04:06.960 --> 1:04:08.720 Yeah, so I at a golf tournament. 1:04:08.800 --> 1:04:10.080 Yeah, because like I didn't know if you have any 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:11.960 geek out stories, because there was one time I was 1:04:11.960 --> 1:04:14.440 in Austin and that's where I grew up and I'm 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:16.680 at a bar and I'm hammered, and my buddy Forrest 1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:19.960 is like, dude, bananas is here, and I'm like, there 1:04:20.000 --> 1:04:21.560 is no way bananas is at this bar. 1:04:21.640 --> 1:04:23.760 Did we just got knowing this charity event? Like you're drunk, 1:04:23.800 --> 1:04:26.160 We're drunk. He goes he was walking in the bathroom 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:27.880 when I was walking out. I'm gonna go find him. 1:04:27.880 --> 1:04:30.720 We're doing shots with bananas, and I mean this bar 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:33.200 is packed. And he comes back thirty minutes He's like, 1:04:33.360 --> 1:04:35.880 I found bananas. Let's go, let's go, And so we 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:38.760 tried to take a tray of shots to bananas with him. 1:04:39.120 --> 1:04:41.720 It was him, and I mean, I am thitherre going 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:43.360 Johnny freaking banan. 1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:45.480 He's just like, what is this idiot doing? 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:48.200 And he took the shot with me and I think 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:49.720 I scared him half to death. And I don't ever 1:04:49.760 --> 1:04:51.520 want to see Johnny Banas again. But I do want 1:04:51.520 --> 1:04:53.880 to see Johnny Banas again because it was just like, man, 1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:55.520 it was I was at my worst, but I was 1:04:55.560 --> 1:04:57.640 at my best at the same time, and it was amazing. 1:04:57.760 --> 1:04:59.840 So the fact that you've never met Bananas shocks me. 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:01.720 What I mean, Bananas, I'm gonna make him do a 1:05:01.760 --> 1:05:03.800 lunchbox here, a lunchbox shop with me. 1:05:05.080 --> 1:05:07.440 No, but that what you did, I know you feel 1:05:07.560 --> 1:05:11.680 lame about having done. That's literally what every single person does. 1:05:12.120 --> 1:05:14.680 Literally at our shows. We will be on stage during 1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:16.960 a show and someone in the middle they will ask 1:05:17.000 --> 1:05:18.920 the waitress. They'll act like they're ordering for themselves to 1:05:18.920 --> 1:05:20.520 be like, yeah, can I have six shots whatever? And 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:22.880 then when the waitress brings it to them, they go no, no, no, bring. 1:05:22.720 --> 1:05:23.160 It to them. 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:24.880 And then like in the middle of our show, we 1:05:24.920 --> 1:05:27.840 get interrupted with this very nice offering of whatever. And 1:05:27.880 --> 1:05:30.240 then it's kind of like, well, you know, dribble and 1:05:30.280 --> 1:05:31.720 you got to be like, I guess this is what 1:05:31.760 --> 1:05:33.760 they do on TV. So we're you know, throwing shots 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:36.080 back whatever. But that is literally what everyone wants to 1:05:36.120 --> 1:05:38.200 do with these people is drink. It's like Steph Curry. 1:05:38.200 --> 1:05:41.200 Everyone wants to dribble with If Johnny was drinking that night, 1:05:41.320 --> 1:05:43.960 he would have been way more approachable. I will say 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:46.800 that I've been, I've been with that, like when he's sober, 1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:47.760 really nice. 1:05:47.920 --> 1:05:50.120 We didn't it wrong, Like it's nice. I just think 1:05:50.200 --> 1:05:51.800 I came on a little strong. 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:53.920 Well, listen, we do a charity thing every year. You 1:05:53.960 --> 1:05:56.080 guys are coming obviously, right, Paully's gonna be back and 1:05:56.120 --> 1:05:59.760 be there. We'll bring Davis. Uh where is this in Orlando? 1:05:59.800 --> 1:06:03.960 But he's he's sober. It's in December, December fifth. I'm 1:06:03.960 --> 1:06:05.520 open to me if you and trust me, it's like 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:07.640 one hundred and fifty reality stars. It's insane. 1:06:08.120 --> 1:06:08.560 That's mine. 1:06:08.920 --> 1:06:12.400 So but like he was like you know, he was 1:06:12.640 --> 1:06:14.640 sober most of the time, and like the fans stay 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:16.440 at the same hotel, so there's a lot of interaction. 1:06:16.640 --> 1:06:19.280 And after that whole weekend he's like, man, I can't 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:20.960 come back to this. He's like, I just He's like, 1:06:21.040 --> 1:06:24.640 I can't deal with this. So like he just he's 1:06:24.640 --> 1:06:27.080 on another level of not being not embracing it. 1:06:27.080 --> 1:06:29.840 I guess like we do. But again, like if he's 1:06:29.840 --> 1:06:32.280 boozed up and you want to do he's like, let's, 1:06:32.360 --> 1:06:34.600 you know, party party. He's all about it. 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:36.720 But when he's like in that kind of wants to 1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:39.160 be by himself phase, he doesn't want to be bothered. 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:41.760 The cool one is the celebrities. Suki Gap for these. 1:06:41.760 --> 1:06:44.360 Times, I was gonna wonder what celebrities a right, dude, 1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:46.120 I watch you on the Challenge Oh my god. 1:06:46.240 --> 1:06:46.640 So yeah. 1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:51.120 Yannis Antetokompo from the Bucks, huge Challenge fan. And this 1:06:51.160 --> 1:06:52.720 is years ago. I went when I found out he 1:06:52.720 --> 1:06:53.960 was a Challenge fan. I went down to when they 1:06:54.000 --> 1:06:55.600 were playing the Wizards. I brought him this like care 1:06:55.640 --> 1:06:58.040 package of our swag and I was explaining to him 1:06:58.040 --> 1:06:58.640 who I am, and he. 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:00.720 Goes, you know Johnny Bananas, you know, And he's like 1:07:00.760 --> 1:07:02.760 that nots coim me. These guys was Johnny Bananas. 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:04.880 And I'm like, I'm like, you just won the MVP 1:07:05.120 --> 1:07:07.560 and you care that I know Johnny Banz And I'm like, 1:07:07.600 --> 1:07:10.080 and also my business partner in cost Derek. He goes, yeah, 1:07:10.080 --> 1:07:11.400 but he hasn't been on the show in a long time. 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:14.120 This is like before before All Stars and everything like that. 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:16.480 We actually just got back from Milwaukee a couple of 1:07:16.680 --> 1:07:18.760 weeks ago and there was Challenge Mania night at the 1:07:18.800 --> 1:07:20.800 Pfizer for him, and we did a bunch of stuff 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:21.200 on the court. 1:07:21.200 --> 1:07:22.000 Paul he was there too. 1:07:22.040 --> 1:07:24.520 We did red light, green light, throwing T shirts into 1:07:24.520 --> 1:07:25.600 the crowd and things like that. 1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:29.360 So, uh, my best story ever, which is fucking awesome. 1:07:30.600 --> 1:07:33.400 First of all, just side note, the Friends cast used 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:35.920 to watch road Rules back in the day repeats in 1:07:35.960 --> 1:07:39.480 their makeup things. So like Matthew Perry, bless his heart, 1:07:39.560 --> 1:07:41.160 he was. I met him a bunch of times. He 1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:45.400 was a big fan. But that's the Playboy Mansions already. 1:07:46.600 --> 1:07:48.440 So I'm at the bar. I'm at the bar, and 1:07:48.480 --> 1:07:52.080 this is probably late nineties. And got to remember when 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:54.240 my road Rules first came out, they hadn't picked up 1:07:54.280 --> 1:07:55.080 the second season. 1:07:54.920 --> 1:07:55.560 Eight years ago. 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:59.000 Yeah it's black and white. No, so they they hadn't 1:07:59.000 --> 1:08:00.920 picked up the second season yet. So they played the 1:08:01.080 --> 1:08:04.120 entire first season and then they played the entire first season. 1:08:04.160 --> 1:08:05.680 It was on for like a year and a half 1:08:05.800 --> 1:08:07.640 and like eight times a week. So I was at 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:08.880 the bar at the Playboy. 1:08:08.480 --> 1:08:10.760 Mansion and I was getting a drink and so I 1:08:10.800 --> 1:08:11.640 just hear this voice and. 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:15.320 I hear in the background he goes road Rules, And. 1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:22.760 I turned around and guess who it was Emlio, Jack Nicholson, No, no, well, 1:08:23.320 --> 1:08:27.439 Jeff Goldbloom remember Jeff from Jurassic Car. 1:08:27.600 --> 1:08:33.160 Wow, he goes road rule, I can imagine what's up. 1:08:34.360 --> 1:08:37.479 That was like my weirdest kind of thing. Kobe Bryant 1:08:37.520 --> 1:08:39.519 was a huge MTV fan when we did it, we 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:41.840 he came and did a challenge with us, him and 1:08:41.880 --> 1:08:45.240 Reggie Miller. He was Kobe was a huge MTV fan. Kenny, 1:08:45.760 --> 1:08:48.639 Reggie Miller could care less. But Kobe stayed out after 1:08:48.720 --> 1:08:50.800 us signed all of our stuff. He was like because 1:08:50.800 --> 1:08:51.280 he was a kid. 1:08:51.280 --> 1:08:55.280 Then Kanye West mentioned Lana in a song. Yeah, there's 1:08:55.320 --> 1:09:00.559 a Kanye song that mentions when swept the one that well. 1:09:00.320 --> 1:09:01.679 I don't know if you saw his latest war. 1:09:03.880 --> 1:09:07.280 My Godana, but. 1:09:08.000 --> 1:09:10.880 I had Cyrus and be one of the videos. It's 1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:11.840 it's funny. 1:09:11.600 --> 1:09:13.519 Because it's crazy on crosses over. 1:09:13.600 --> 1:09:16.200 Well, you know that culture back then, like TRL was 1:09:16.240 --> 1:09:19.519 like the thing, right, she knows in there MTV TRL 1:09:19.640 --> 1:09:21.880 and like watching people like the Backstreet Boys and then 1:09:21.920 --> 1:09:24.200 they'd have Limp Biscuit come on and then Eminem like 1:09:24.240 --> 1:09:27.080 it was fucking just. It was a cool era. I 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:28.840 always say I lived through a really cool era. I 1:09:28.840 --> 1:09:30.599 wish my nieces could live through that now, but it's 1:09:30.600 --> 1:09:34.720 totally different. But it's just it was really fun. It 1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:36.960 wasn't so social media driven, like we didn't have our 1:09:37.000 --> 1:09:38.800 phones all the time, so we didn't have phones half 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:41.760 the time. But it was just such a cool era. 1:09:41.840 --> 1:09:44.679 And like I remember sitting at the Movie Awards next 1:09:44.720 --> 1:09:49.479 to what's your Name from the from the Voice Blake Shelton. 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:52.759 Jeffani was next to me in pink hair, and she's 1:09:52.840 --> 1:09:55.240 like knows the show. Like it was just fucking cool. 1:09:55.720 --> 1:09:56.760 Did you host spring Break? 1:09:56.800 --> 1:09:57.000 Ever? 1:09:57.600 --> 1:09:57.800 Yeah? 1:09:57.920 --> 1:09:59.840 Hosted spring break? Yeah, Eric and I did. 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:03.880 Easy Still it was big somehow, but it was easy does. 1:10:04.040 --> 1:10:06.439 That's literally his job, I believe. I don't know if 1:10:06.439 --> 1:10:08.759 it's his only job, but one of his main jobs 1:10:08.800 --> 1:10:10.960 is for I believe. It's not even just like spring 1:10:10.960 --> 1:10:13.760 break a week. There's this some town in Texas or something. 1:10:13.760 --> 1:10:15.439 It's like Galveston or Someway. I don't know where it is, 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:19.720 but but but it's sixth spring lle. He hosts like 1:10:19.760 --> 1:10:22.960 a recurring spring break party for six weeks. 1:10:23.280 --> 1:10:24.760 Yeah, And I don't know if it's just that he's 1:10:24.800 --> 1:10:25.840 South Padre, that's. 1:10:25.760 --> 1:10:28.160 What that's legit y that's a legit play. 1:10:28.200 --> 1:10:31.920 Yeah, Brown is like my Crappit partner, and that's. 1:10:31.760 --> 1:10:33.040 Where you get shopp by the Gartel. 1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:33.920 I used to host that. 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:34.720 Spring break. 1:10:38.439 --> 1:10:40.800 But do you remember do you remember those like the 1:10:40.920 --> 1:10:44.840 MTV Beach House and all that stuff. Like, I'll tell 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:48.000 you a great story that the same day that Road 1:10:48.080 --> 1:10:50.920 Rules premiered was July nineteenth, nineteen ninety five. It was 1:10:50.960 --> 1:10:54.120 the same day that they released the premiere of Clueless. 1:10:54.439 --> 1:10:56.559 So I got to go to the Clueless premiere on 1:10:56.600 --> 1:10:58.720 the beach at Malibu and it was this is when 1:10:58.760 --> 1:11:01.599 I felt like. I was like, I never felt like 1:11:01.840 --> 1:11:04.160 I still never feel like a celebrity, but I felt 1:11:04.160 --> 1:11:06.200 like cool because I went to this premiere and it 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:08.320 was all the nine o two and oh cast, all 1:11:08.360 --> 1:11:10.640 the people from Clueless, Elisa Donovan who now is one 1:11:10.640 --> 1:11:11.880 of my best friends, from the. 1:11:11.840 --> 1:11:12.840 Worst cook Show we did. 1:11:12.840 --> 1:11:14.839 But like, I was on the beach and Jennye McCarthy 1:11:14.840 --> 1:11:16.719 was there and Chris Hardwick and I was like, man, 1:11:16.760 --> 1:11:19.080 this is just fucking cool. But they don't do stuff 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:20.320 like that anymore, and I hate it. 1:11:20.560 --> 1:11:23.040 We do, you do, but we do. Is there a 1:11:23.080 --> 1:11:23.920 way to. 1:11:23.880 --> 1:11:24.400 Bring it back? 1:11:24.439 --> 1:11:25.760 For yeah, to bring it back where. 1:11:25.840 --> 1:11:27.880 I mean, I think you're doing a great job with 1:11:28.080 --> 1:11:31.080 just these and you incorporate the comedy into it. Who's 1:11:31.120 --> 1:11:34.720 to say that we can't pitch Panama City to have 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:38.360 Challenge Mania Live as their host of the next Person. 1:11:38.439 --> 1:11:41.080 I think it's just finding the right person that Rutchbox. 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:48.559 Actually, we're going to be inviting fans and everybody. 1:11:48.920 --> 1:11:49.559 No, I'm just kidding. 1:11:49.600 --> 1:11:53.280 There's like there's a cruise that everybody's doing in November. 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:55.280 They are doing a cruise. We are doing a reality. 1:11:55.000 --> 1:11:58.479 Cruise in January, November and January. There's one in November 1:11:58.479 --> 1:12:00.599 that's sold out, but there is one in h January. 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:03.920 You can still get tickets to Showroomreality Cruise dot com. 1:12:03.920 --> 1:12:06.360 Mark will be on it. These guys want to be 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:09.240 on it. They might be on its. West bergman Jordan 1:12:09.320 --> 1:12:12.200 Weisley will be there. Rachel Tina dev. 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:18.759 This guy who looks like Brad's shaved the beard. 1:12:18.920 --> 1:12:22.000 He kind of looks like pitbull. Guys. 1:12:22.000 --> 1:12:23.120 I don't know what it is, but whenever I go 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:25.800 to the airport with that beard, they search me pretty extensively. 1:12:26.720 --> 1:12:28.439 Yeah, if we're going to be going to the. 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:35.120 Bok bigger and bigger, and bigger, and then I was 1:12:35.120 --> 1:12:36.400 looking at pictures online. 1:12:36.400 --> 1:12:39.080 I was talking to our promotions girl a minute ago. 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:40.920 And she's like, oh, I watched My World San Diego 1:12:40.920 --> 1:12:42.840 and I pulled up and I'm like, look at how Brad, 1:12:42.920 --> 1:12:44.679 But oh my god, it was just so wild. 1:12:44.960 --> 1:12:46.439 And so a couple more questions before you go. 1:12:46.840 --> 1:12:49.880 So you guys earned gear when you're on the show, right, 1:12:50.240 --> 1:12:52.680 So someone sent this to me and I want to 1:12:52.720 --> 1:12:54.679 know if I'm a poser if I wear this brat. 1:12:54.960 --> 1:12:56.320 No, of course, Oh. 1:12:56.200 --> 1:12:59.200 My god, I'm jealous. You have that. They do not. 1:13:00.840 --> 1:13:02.160 They don't let us keep it anymore. 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:06.720 That here's a never before. So when we leave, you've 1:13:06.720 --> 1:13:09.240 got to put that take back. They take back. 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:13.680 Your uniform, your socks, your shoes, they take back everything. 1:13:13.640 --> 1:13:17.400 And it's never to be seen again. Everything who knows. 1:13:17.479 --> 1:13:19.519 Because they don't want us to put together really cool 1:13:19.560 --> 1:13:20.280 home offices. 1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:22.920 Pretty much. 1:13:23.560 --> 1:13:26.519 Further so, so last year we got Derek and ct 1:13:26.720 --> 1:13:29.320 both in the Allen and Ginter tops line, right, And 1:13:29.320 --> 1:13:31.519 this isn't one of them, but Derek, back when they 1:13:31.520 --> 1:13:34.839 did let you take your jerseys for some of his cars, 1:13:34.880 --> 1:13:36.640 he sent in two of his jerseys. So you can 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:39.000 actually get a Derek card that has a piece of 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:40.920 his Dirty thirty jersey where he. 1:13:40.880 --> 1:13:41.800 Came in second on it. 1:13:41.880 --> 1:13:43.840 How cool is that he wouldn't be able to do 1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:46.080 that they didn't have the jerseys, you know what I mean? So, 1:13:46.240 --> 1:13:48.719 and there might be some more challengers and this year's 1:13:48.800 --> 1:13:51.559 line of tops Allen and Ginter, who knows, who knows? 1:13:51.680 --> 1:13:55.000 I send them here. I just send them Challenge warn bandanas. 1:13:55.040 --> 1:13:56.360 There you go. I own them. 1:13:56.720 --> 1:13:59.439 And this goes back to what we were talking about earlier, 1:13:59.439 --> 1:14:02.760 because I have gone to them being like, hey, I 1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:06.840 have like companies that would give us all of the jerseys, 1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:09.679 all of the supplements. Most of the people pack half 1:14:09.680 --> 1:14:13.000 their bags with supplements. They would give every person individual 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:14.719 supplement stacks jerseys. 1:14:14.760 --> 1:14:15.559 We'd be able to keep it. 1:14:15.600 --> 1:14:18.120 And they put up the winnings money and they're just like, yeah, no, 1:14:18.160 --> 1:14:18.840 that sounds great. 1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:20.519 Fuck off. 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:22.760 Interesting, So. 1:14:25.400 --> 1:14:29.160 You're actually the elite. 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:32.439 I love it because I'm a die hard. Like I've 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:34.200 watched it my whole life and I thought that was 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:36.439 my career path. When I was in college and people 1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:38.400 are like, hey, what do you know what jobs. 1:14:38.200 --> 1:14:39.439 Are you applying for? I was like, no, I'm gonna 1:14:39.439 --> 1:14:39.640 be on in the. 1:14:39.600 --> 1:14:43.280 Real world, like I'm not applying for jobs, like that's 1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:45.400 not my life, Like I'm not gonna have a real job, 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:46.439 like I'm gonna be on TV. 1:14:46.800 --> 1:14:48.360 But someone gave this to me. I thought I was 1:14:48.400 --> 1:14:48.840 a poser. 1:14:49.080 --> 1:14:51.800 So now Avery and Adam, you guys meet and you 1:14:51.840 --> 1:14:53.600 have a relationship on the show, Pauli, you've been in 1:14:53.640 --> 1:14:54.240 this situation. 1:14:54.640 --> 1:14:54.880 Mark. 1:14:54.920 --> 1:14:56.519 I don't remember if you ever fell in love on 1:14:56.560 --> 1:14:59.800 the challenge or not, but how do you know that 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:03.000 this is a real relationship? Like it's a TV show. 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:05.240 None of these relationships work, did. 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:08.080 We didn't get to have our relationship on four until 1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:10.439 we came back and just kind of like kept on, 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:12.680 like getting to know each other deeper and deeper, so 1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:13.679 our relationship happened. 1:15:13.680 --> 1:15:18.040 Wouldn't leave me alone, wouldn't leave me alone, always checking 1:15:18.120 --> 1:15:20.080 up on me, making sure I'm all right in Arizona, 1:15:20.080 --> 1:15:22.519 and I'm like I'm fine, man. Yeah, I just like 1:15:22.560 --> 1:15:24.080 I was like, what is with this guy? And then 1:15:24.360 --> 1:15:28.320 I just yeah, And then all of a sudden, yeah, and. 1:15:28.240 --> 1:15:29.759 I left and I was like, hey, are you're gonna 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:30.800 be all right without me? 1:15:32.280 --> 1:15:34.600 She's like, you can barely tell your shoes without me? 1:15:35.040 --> 1:15:37.120 I put your son screen on for you. What do 1:15:37.200 --> 1:15:37.720 you am? 1:15:37.800 --> 1:15:40.800 I gonna be okay, yeah, and no, It's just it 1:15:40.880 --> 1:15:43.479 was just magical, like it just develops so like. 1:15:43.520 --> 1:15:45.240 What it was one of your daughters, one of his 1:15:45.320 --> 1:15:47.960 youngest daughter, we were talking on the phone one day 1:15:48.200 --> 1:15:50.559 and she stole the phone and then she was like, 1:15:50.840 --> 1:15:52.160 took me aside, and she's like, do you want to 1:15:52.160 --> 1:15:54.400 know a secret? And I'm like, well, yeah, like he 1:15:54.479 --> 1:15:57.080 doesn't want to know a secret. And then she was like, Okay, 1:15:57.920 --> 1:16:01.479 my dad has a crush on No. 1:16:02.320 --> 1:16:08.439 I said, like most people have a crush on me, honey, Yeah, yeah, 1:16:08.439 --> 1:16:09.439 I'm just because I always wondering. 1:16:09.439 --> 1:16:12.160 I watch it and it's like, you know, hooking up 1:16:12.160 --> 1:16:14.000 with Olivia. 1:16:13.680 --> 1:16:15.559 Olivia and I'm like, there's no way that's gonna last. 1:16:15.560 --> 1:16:16.599 And it's like they're still dating. 1:16:16.640 --> 1:16:18.960 It's like, what how she got his name tattooed on 1:16:19.000 --> 1:16:20.280 the back of her neck. 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:22.599 Yeah, don't worry, I don't have any tattoos with Adam's, 1:16:22.800 --> 1:16:22.960 you know. 1:16:22.960 --> 1:16:23.240 What I mean? 1:16:23.240 --> 1:16:25.800 Like I just always think, I think, I think, I 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:28.160 will say that I think there was a lot more 1:16:28.200 --> 1:16:30.599 show mances back in the day because it was so 1:16:30.960 --> 1:16:34.040 party atmosphere, so you'd hook up and when you went 1:16:34.080 --> 1:16:36.720 back and kind of fizzle. But I guess not that 1:16:36.840 --> 1:16:41.240 the the the people have evolved and got more mature. 1:16:41.240 --> 1:16:44.280 But I mean, Adam, you know, isn't twenty one anymore 1:16:44.320 --> 1:16:47.640 and Avery isn't twenty one anymore. I hope right, No, 1:16:47.720 --> 1:16:49.920 But I'm saying I think it's uh. I think it's 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:53.559 a different time now because I want to say there 1:16:53.560 --> 1:16:55.240 was even more hook up so like I'm big brother 1:16:55.320 --> 1:16:56.599 back in the day than there is now. I think 1:16:56.600 --> 1:16:58.599 people are more cognizant to it because there's so many 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:00.160 so much social media and. 1:17:00.920 --> 1:17:03.880 Michelle are going to deb and Michelle are going actually 1:17:03.920 --> 1:17:06.360 everything you just said. I do feel like now people 1:17:06.439 --> 1:17:08.920 know the stigma, so they know like, oh, you know, 1:17:09.360 --> 1:17:11.920 relationship built on TV, how long is this gonna last? 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:13.840 And they're sort of like, if you're gonna enter into it, 1:17:14.160 --> 1:17:15.640 you got to give it at least eight months just 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:17.479 to prove everybody wrong. And I think to go a 1:17:17.479 --> 1:17:19.759 step further with them, you know, they had the Johnny 1:17:19.760 --> 1:17:22.120 Bananas of the world, like from Jump Street telling them, oh, 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:23.640 you know, he's just in it for the game. You 1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:25.479 guys aren't a real couple. And I do think that 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:27.960 did kind of you know, fuel them to give each 1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:29.599 other their best and they're still together very hard. 1:17:29.680 --> 1:17:30.920 I mean it was it wasn't even that. 1:17:30.960 --> 1:17:34.000 It was just what you find out about challengers is 1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:36.360 a lot of the things they say publicly is projection. 1:17:36.920 --> 1:17:39.080 Most of them have to go to therapy and we're 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:43.320 being honest, and that's totally fine. But when you know, 1:17:43.400 --> 1:17:45.240 like when Kara and I first got together and Van's 1:17:45.280 --> 1:17:47.040 and they're being like he's usually forgive, he's usually forgeting. 1:17:47.080 --> 1:17:49.080 I'm like, yeah, dude, cause that's what you fucking do, 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:51.360 Like you're how old you need a young chick to 1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:54.240 hook up with? Like he put a picture of him 1:17:54.240 --> 1:17:58.440 and Natalie in US Weekly, like that was his publicist 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:00.200 that did it. He's like, we're gonna set up up 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:01.920 this date where we're getting coffee, so we're going to 1:18:02.000 --> 1:18:03.559 take a picture and I'm gonna put it in there. 1:18:03.600 --> 1:18:05.360 So he was just a little bit upset that I 1:18:05.439 --> 1:18:07.680 was actually, you know, dating somebody from The Bachelor at 1:18:07.680 --> 1:18:11.160 the time, and my hook cup was actually newsworthy, you know, 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:13.360 when me and Carr got together. So I think he 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:15.439 just wanted a little bit of, like I told you 1:18:15.560 --> 1:18:18.280 some thing if anything did happen. I mean, but Johnny 1:18:18.280 --> 1:18:19.720 and I were on good terms now, but I do 1:18:19.760 --> 1:18:20.320 got to give him a. 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:21.479 Little ships on his defense. 1:18:21.760 --> 1:18:25.840 But anyway, Yeah, and how often like outside of the show, 1:18:25.920 --> 1:18:29.800 like the anger feelings on the show, they carry over 1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:30.760 to real life. 1:18:32.320 --> 1:18:35.280 I had this conversation with him at the hotel just now, 1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:38.280 I said, I said, it's a shame. It's a shame 1:18:38.439 --> 1:18:43.800 when people really extend the enemy hatred months after the show. 1:18:43.840 --> 1:18:46.240 Because it is a TV show, right, We're all there's 1:18:46.320 --> 1:18:48.080 only one winner usually or two winners. 1:18:48.360 --> 1:18:51.680 So he was talking about him and Frank. 1:18:53.479 --> 1:18:54.000 Miserable. 1:18:54.120 --> 1:18:57.880 Yeah, but but but he's like, Adam's like, you know, 1:18:58.080 --> 1:19:01.439 I've I've you know, I've now grown to move beyond 1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:04.000 being an enemy. I could you could probably hang out 1:19:04.040 --> 1:19:05.280 with Frank now and have a great time. 1:19:05.400 --> 1:19:07.040 Yeah, but now you guys have reasons. 1:19:07.280 --> 1:19:07.479 You know. 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:09.960 Back in the day, it used to be that, especially 1:19:09.960 --> 1:19:12.000 you and Frank, people have like completely different lives and 1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:14.479 careers that if you went on All Stars five decided 1:19:14.520 --> 1:19:16.320 you hate each other, there's really no reason for you 1:19:16.360 --> 1:19:18.320 guys to ever interact unless you come to one of 1:19:18.360 --> 1:19:20.799 these or you see each other on the touring circuit 1:19:20.840 --> 1:19:22.680 or you go and do another season together. So it 1:19:22.760 --> 1:19:24.639 is easy to get swept up in the oh, yeah 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:26.040 I should hate this guy, but at all if you 1:19:26.080 --> 1:19:27.760 don't get to see each other. But the fact that 1:19:27.800 --> 1:19:29.639 we do so many of these and you know, unless 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:31.200 people request, hey I don't want to do one with 1:19:31.240 --> 1:19:34.000 Paulie or whatever, like you know, you do kind of know, Hey, 1:19:34.040 --> 1:19:36.080 I might see this guy in the future. He might 1:19:36.120 --> 1:19:38.000 you know what I mean, maybe we men fences a 1:19:38.000 --> 1:19:40.200 little sooner. Maybe we don't put things out there on 1:19:40.240 --> 1:19:42.760 social media that we can't you know, ask for forgiveness 1:19:43.000 --> 1:19:43.800 for later, you know. 1:19:43.920 --> 1:19:45.679 So I think a lot of people don't realize too 1:19:45.720 --> 1:19:49.599 like when we film these shows, like they're a year past, 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:51.680 like like by by the time that they're aired, that's it. 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:53.679 That's it last year, like that week. 1:19:53.760 --> 1:19:54.400 It's so weird. 1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:56.679 Yeah, So for me, I'm like, Okay, it's been a year, 1:19:56.840 --> 1:19:59.240 Like what can I really like Pauli? We have nothing 1:19:59.240 --> 1:20:01.679 against each other, but like let's say Polly pissed me off, 1:20:01.720 --> 1:20:04.240 Like is it really that serious that in a year? 1:20:04.400 --> 1:20:06.640 Like did he really take my pillow one night? And 1:20:06.680 --> 1:20:09.080 I'm like, hate you Ballan? Would you die? Like you know, 1:20:09.120 --> 1:20:10.760 and like really like hold on to that for like 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:13.280 a year that like sometimes like I know that we 1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:16.439 have Like really there's our castmates that have real serious 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:19.599 problems with each other, totally different, you know, like yay, 1:20:19.640 --> 1:20:21.240 you personally don't like this person. 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:22.760 Get it, I get it. 1:20:22.840 --> 1:20:24.280 I understand why no one likes Laurel. 1:20:25.640 --> 1:20:27.040 Something like gameplay related. 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:29.439 It's like it's a game at the end of the day, 1:20:29.439 --> 1:20:31.439 Like it's a game, Like we're playing a game, you know. 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:37.720 Hold a grudge, Amanda, Johnny, Yeah, I love Johnny's one 1:20:37.760 --> 1:20:40.920 of my best friends. But if that if you've crossed 1:20:41.000 --> 1:20:42.680 him in his mind and somewhere in the past, he 1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:44.160 will hold that to his. 1:20:44.200 --> 1:20:46.200 Crave even if he gets you back. 1:20:46.439 --> 1:20:48.920 Yes, yeah, yeah, He's allowed to cross people, but once 1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:52.360 someone crosses him, it's like, oh, you just scorched the earth. 1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:55.240 I'll there you. But he is the king of crossing, 1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:59.160 like he crosses all the time and that's why people 1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:01.760 love him. Tho, right, I mean, I mean, but yeah, yeah, 1:21:01.880 --> 1:21:02.599 thank you guys so. 1:21:02.600 --> 1:21:04.679 Much for coming in. And hey, if you guys are anywhere, 1:21:04.880 --> 1:21:07.920 Challenge Many Alive. May fourth in New York, May twenty 1:21:07.920 --> 1:21:11.639 fifth in Chicago, June seventh, in Saint Louis, June twenty eighth, 1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:15.880 in Pittsburgh, June thirteenth or July thirteenth in Atlanta, September 1:21:15.920 --> 1:21:19.120 seventh in Phoenix, and in July thirteenth, Bananas will be 1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:19.880 in Atlanta. 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:21.800 And I just want to tell you also three of 1:21:21.840 --> 1:21:24.479 those we're also thrown out the first pitch with the 1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:27.800 major League baseball team. So in Saint Louis, we're doing 1:21:27.840 --> 1:21:30.559 the Cardinals when they played the Dodgers, in Pittsburgh when 1:21:30.560 --> 1:21:32.960 the Pirates play the Mets, and then in Phoenix we 1:21:33.000 --> 1:21:35.400 did it last year. Mark threw it out in Phoenix. Toy, 1:21:35.400 --> 1:21:36.720 He's going to be throwing out the first pitch when 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:38.400 they play the Red Sox. If you want to do 1:21:38.400 --> 1:21:40.320 out of cool stuff like that with the sports. I 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:41.040 will also be. 1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:43.240 Doing batting practice before she throws the first pitch. 1:21:43.360 --> 1:21:44.400 He also, dude, he. 1:21:44.360 --> 1:21:46.799 Literally almost crushed one out of the park last September. 1:21:46.960 --> 1:21:48.639 That would be epic. I will get it done this 1:21:48.640 --> 1:21:49.040 this time. 1:21:49.080 --> 1:21:50.680 But thank you guys for having us, and thanks for 1:21:50.680 --> 1:21:51.120 the plugs. 1:21:51.320 --> 1:21:52.200 So much, so much fun. 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:52.479 Guys. 1:21:53.200 --> 1:21:54.280 So this is guy Beaty. 1:21:54.320 --> 1:21:56.240 Don't listen to Lunchbucks because he gets my name wrong 1:21:56.280 --> 1:21:56.639 every time. 1:21:56.760 --> 1:21:59.080 But you know what, I'm listening to The Bobby Bone Show. 1:21:59.080 --> 1:21:59.840 Come on, let's buck. 1:22:01.080 --> 1:22:02.200 Y'all have too much fun. 1:22:02.360 --> 1:22:03.719 I Love by bother's family