Speaker 1: Bone Zone Bones.
Speaker 2: All right, a few things before we get over to lunchboxes.
Speaker 2: Interview with the Challenge Mania crew, and I'll let him
Speaker 2: set that up. But our whole studio was Challenge Mania.
Speaker 2: I thought DJ poly D was coming in based on
Speaker 2: the pictures and stuff. So all that coming up in
Speaker 2: just a few minutes. But speaking of podcasts, Morgan, do
Speaker 2: you always do your podcast from your house? Do guests
Speaker 2: come to your house?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the home studio is like I changed one
Speaker 3: of the rooms over to be a home studio.
Speaker 2: Do you ever have guys come over to be the
Speaker 2: guest and they come over by themselves? Oh, that just
Speaker 2: feels dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and it was kind of funny. Recently I
Speaker 3: had a much older gentleman come on and he was
Speaker 3: an awesome guest, but he showed up like forty five
Speaker 3: minutes early, and I'm like, oh, what do I do?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Your house?
Speaker 2: Oh that's tough because I wonder if he knew it
Speaker 2: was your home studio or if he was just showing
Speaker 2: up early to a studio.
Speaker 6: That's a little that's forty five minutes.
Speaker 7: That's that's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Even me.
Speaker 2: I would have sat in the car for a while yeah,
Speaker 2: but I wonder if he did he know it was
Speaker 2: your home.
Speaker 3: I always make sure when I respond, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 3: it's a home studio, here's the address, so they know.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if his people conveyed that message
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 7: So what did you do? I they're dating now.
Speaker 5: I was literally like in my sweats.
Speaker 1: I hadn't changed.
Speaker 3: I had just finished like cleaning up, because I always
Speaker 3: try and make sure everything's like prepared and ready, and
Speaker 3: changing is like the last thing that I do. So
Speaker 3: I answered the door and I'm like in my sweats
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my gosh. And he's like, no,
Speaker 3: I know, I'm so early. And I just kind of
Speaker 3: sat him in my podcast studio and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'll be here like five seconds, and then I'm like
Speaker 3: running around changing.
Speaker 7: I felt that's uncomfortable, that's awkward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're changing when he's there.
Speaker 8: We do a.
Speaker 2: Bobby cast from my from my house, but it's not
Speaker 2: even my house, so we have a building now in
Speaker 2: the back.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 2: We did do it from in my house for a
Speaker 2: long time and it got to be weird where people
Speaker 2: were just in the house.
Speaker 5: It's just weird.
Speaker 2: After a while I was like, I don't know people
Speaker 2: just being in my house and so and then certain
Speaker 2: artists you think I can still suck depending on Yeah,
Speaker 2: so for the Bobby cast, for the most part, some
Speaker 2: we do here, I'm lucky enough that they go to
Speaker 2: the back, like there's a basically a trail to the
Speaker 2: backyard with this building where we have built a studio.
Speaker 2: But I know how uncomfortable that is. But also the
Speaker 2: dynamic of female male Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 3: I know, and I'm really thankful too, like genuine when
Speaker 3: I say older gentlemen like much much older. So like
Speaker 3: I didn't feel uncomfortable, but it still was like there's
Speaker 3: a stranger in my home. I am not dressed, and
Speaker 3: I felt ill prepared for like this situation where I
Speaker 3: was like I should have been dressed an hour ago,
Speaker 3: and I know I shouldn't have because he came early.
Speaker 8: It was just I was so frazzled.
Speaker 6: I wonder at what age for men do we start
Speaker 6: to be like, oh, I'm comfortable now because he's eighty,
Speaker 6: like if he was as a woman. Yeah, Like because
Speaker 6: you just said I felt okay knowing that he was older.
Speaker 6: So then at what aged men suddenly but come like.
Speaker 7: Safe when you can beat them up.
Speaker 2: And I think it's a case by case when they're
Speaker 2: brittle enough that you can beat them up.
Speaker 1: Wheelchair, Yeah, wheelchair for sure.
Speaker 2: Gary Muldier, who's a comedian, plays at the opera a bunch.
Speaker 2: He's eighty five. He showed up an hour early. But
Speaker 2: I have a have no building, so we just sat
Speaker 2: in the building.
Speaker 6: You don't have to get like as a woman changing
Speaker 6: your club.
Speaker 7: I had to do nothing. I was lucky enough. I
Speaker 7: didn't matter. I could have been naked. He still wasn't
Speaker 7: the side he was over in the side building.
Speaker 8: What was that?
Speaker 7: What was the topic? Is that one up yet?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's enough.
Speaker 1: His name is doctor Harry Cohen.
Speaker 3: He wrote a book called Be the Son, Not the Salt,
Speaker 3: and it was really good, like genuinely great guy.
Speaker 7: It was just I want the doctor to be early though,
Speaker 7: you know what. I like that. I like it that
Speaker 7: it's the doctor that's early on. My doctor to be
Speaker 7: early all the time.
Speaker 3: And he was very old fashioned, like he came dressed
Speaker 3: in like a suit and tie, so I was very uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: I was literally in sweats.
Speaker 3: I was like, I need to put on a dress.
Speaker 7: Oh, his wardrobe.
Speaker 8: Changed your wards.
Speaker 1: So funny.
Speaker 7: That's funny in your house. Yeah, but do you have guests?
Speaker 6: Well, with feeling things, we're not going to do the
Speaker 6: guests route, but with four things, yeah, I had plenty
Speaker 6: of people in and out of my house, like I
Speaker 6: wanted to.
Speaker 9: Ye.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, right, that was That was acupuncture day. I
Speaker 6: definitely had a lot going on in my life during
Speaker 6: that season. Not an excuse, but my in laws were
Speaker 6: living with us at the time to help with some
Speaker 6: of the chaos, and I decided to go get acupuncture
Speaker 6: again because my life is falling apart. And I guess
Speaker 6: I didn't explain to him I have a podcast interview
Speaker 6: in two hours. I didn't know. It was one of
Speaker 6: my first times to go to this guy, and he's
Speaker 6: he lays me face down on the table and I'm
Speaker 6: just assuming this is gonna be a less than an
Speaker 6: hour appointment. Well, I laid down on my stomach, so
Speaker 6: in my back. He puts a bunch of needles in
Speaker 6: my head and my back, down my leg like everywhere,
Speaker 6: so I can't move kind of needles in me. Also
Speaker 6: so relaxing. I fell asleep right there more than all
Speaker 6: of it, like all of it.
Speaker 5: It was just bad.
Speaker 6: I couldn't. I had not my phone. You know, you're
Speaker 6: supposed to be there. It's acupuncture. And then all of
Speaker 6: a sudden he's like, okay, time to get up, roll
Speaker 6: over and I sit up and I'm like what time
Speaker 6: is it? And he's like, oh, it's been about two
Speaker 6: hours and like what So then I look at my
Speaker 6: phone and I have all these miscalls for my father
Speaker 6: in law and he's like your podcast interviews here, and
Speaker 6: I was like mortified. So luckily they understood and I rescheduled.
Speaker 1: They came back. Yeah, there was that stress, the stress
Speaker 1: relieve where you were.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 6: Oh, I was like, whatever you just did to me?
Speaker 7: Now it's undone that's true got canceled.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get to this now with Lunchbox. What's
Speaker 2: Challenge Mania? Is it from that show? You watch The Challenge?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 9: So what they do is it's like a live podcast.
Speaker 9: They take different cast members and they go to different
Speaker 9: cities and so every city will have different cast members
Speaker 9: with them and they do sort of a Q and
Speaker 9: A and they do like where you meet the fans
Speaker 9: and everything.
Speaker 7: It's all this that that's.
Speaker 1: What they were in town for yet.
Speaker 7: Oh they were doing that somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a paid place, like you buy tickets and
Speaker 9: you go and you get to meet the challenge. People
Speaker 9: ask them questions, they tell stories.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: So Lunchwalks was very excited. After we left the show.
Speaker 2: They I didn't see them because I think they came
Speaker 2: up with like two or something.
Speaker 9: Yeah, two o'clock in the afternoon. Man, I stayed here
Speaker 9: to work late. That's what I do on the grind
Speaker 9: You do out what is it called? Is it the
Speaker 9: grind hitting the Grindstone?
Speaker 8: Is that what you call it?
Speaker 7: Huh? That's a combination of a couple of them. Yeah,
Speaker 7: like the ground Oh.
Speaker 9: Those of the Grindstone, you know. I mean everybody else
Speaker 9: is at home. I'm here working away.
Speaker 7: So if I ask you who they are. Just to
Speaker 7: set this up, Mark Long.
Speaker 1: He's the og. He's been doing this for since nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety two.
Speaker 2: Is he the guy that's organized the whole travel around
Speaker 2: to the podcast?
Speaker 1: No, that that guy's name is Scott Yeager.
Speaker 9: Him and Darren who was a contestant on road Rules,
Speaker 9: they came up with it. Mark Long was just the
Speaker 9: first road Rules and He is the one that came
Speaker 9: up with the challenge All Stars, which brings.
Speaker 1: Back vets like it's like a shorter season. It's on Paramount.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 9: It's like you get all the old school people because
Speaker 9: they can't be away from their family as long. And
Speaker 9: he's like, we should do this. They can't give away
Speaker 9: three months, but they can give away three weeks and
Speaker 9: that's what has brought back All Stars. Mark Long is
Speaker 9: known as the godfather Polly, Paullie, Dude, Big Brother.
Speaker 7: Why'd you look at Eddie?
Speaker 1: You guys don't know these people.
Speaker 2: This is not Polly d Oh. Who is Holly D's
Speaker 2: from Jersey Shore. Okay, yeah, this is just no.
Speaker 9: Polly was on Big Brother. Then he came to the
Speaker 9: Challenge and dude, he came in like usually the rookies, like, oh,
Speaker 9: you know, I'm not gonna do anything.
Speaker 1: He's crazy. He tells Johnny Bananas, I'm gonna whoop your
Speaker 1: and he tries to whoop it. He's crazy. He's awesome.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 9: Adam Adam was on road Rules way back when he's
Speaker 9: on All Stars now and he's been on a few
Speaker 9: seasons All Stars. Met his chick on All stars.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's been around world back in the game now
Speaker 9: recently back in the game.
Speaker 2: Any girls in the show. Yeah, on the podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Avery got it.
Speaker 1: From Real World Portland and then she's also on the challenge.
Speaker 2: When you see someone that was on Real World, is
Speaker 2: that cool to you because you're a massive Real World fan?
Speaker 9: If I see him on real Real World or road Rules,
Speaker 9: they're huge to me, Like it is like my dream
Speaker 9: and my everything I am. I'm like that great day
Speaker 9: I am. They got to live what I wanted to be, Like,
Speaker 9: they got to do what I wanted to do. Like
Speaker 9: Avery's like one of the last Real Worlds almost, Like
Speaker 9: that's what's crazy.
Speaker 7: That show's over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't do it anymore.
Speaker 7: When do they quit? What was the last season?
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great question.
Speaker 9: Uh, I mean they did one in Los Angeles that
Speaker 9: was really bad.
Speaker 1: That was the one Scooba was supposed to be on.
Speaker 7: I don't mind the show, like as a member.
Speaker 9: Scooba was supposed to be on, but he picked a
Speaker 9: chick over the Real World.
Speaker 7: I don't know about this.
Speaker 11: We talked about it was a long time ago, like
Speaker 11: five years ago when you first met me. We talked
Speaker 11: about on the show. Is they did this was the
Speaker 11: first time ever they did the online auditions.
Speaker 7: Wait, so you were offered the job.
Speaker 11: And I was dating a chick during that process. I
Speaker 11: had just met her almost that same weekend. And then
Speaker 11: I turned it down because I'm like, well, this this
Speaker 11: girl basically told me was my ex wife, that if
Speaker 11: I went for this role then we wouldn't be anything.
Speaker 2: Is this like cars run you off the road though,
Speaker 2: or maybe occasionally or did you for sure get the
Speaker 2: d Yeah?
Speaker 11: No, Yeah, it was me and this other guy from
Speaker 11: Daytona Beach and then he was the alternate and they
Speaker 11: went with him because I turned it down because of her,
Speaker 11: which that week Yeah, the whole weekend changed my life.
Speaker 11: But I think it was a great thing because I
Speaker 11: turned it down. I saw those guys are nice guys.
Speaker 11: But I'm glad I didn't go that route.
Speaker 1: No, No, that was a terrible season in real world.
Speaker 7: I also think because didn't you end up divorcing that girl?
Speaker 8: Yeah, the girl told me not to go on the show.
Speaker 1: I divorced her.
Speaker 7: I caught her cheating on you.
Speaker 2: Yes on Ashley Madison. Yeah, so the same woman. I
Speaker 2: guess My point is, if he'd taken the show. Even
Speaker 2: if the show had been lame, he would have never
Speaker 2: gotten married, right.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't have to go through all that.
Speaker 11: But then I would never would have met my soulmate.
Speaker 11: I never would have moved to San Francisco or Los
Speaker 11: Angeles and chase that maybe in a different way, Well.
Speaker 9: You would have been in Los Angeles because the real
Speaker 9: world was in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Want been in latter quicker.
Speaker 11: But it could also have been a failure and a
Speaker 11: flop because it was the worst season, so awful, or
Speaker 11: I could have saved the season or saved the show.
Speaker 2: Never know, I didn't know that he was offered a spot.
Speaker 2: That's what Lunchbox always wanted.
Speaker 8: Everything he is but he I mean.
Speaker 7: He is today is based on that show.
Speaker 9: But when I see that season, I'm like, I wouldn't
Speaker 9: have been that season. Wouldn't have been fun to be on,
Speaker 9: Like I wouldn't want to be offered that spot.
Speaker 7: But like Scuba saying, you could have changed that, Yeah,
Speaker 7: Like no, I don't think changed the whole thing.
Speaker 6: Secret Sauce.
Speaker 2: Yep, So we're about to do and play this whole thing.
Speaker 2: Was it fun for you? Was it amazing?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 9: Was geeking out, like I had a smile from my
Speaker 9: ear to ear, and Scoop was like, hey, man, if
Speaker 9: you can keep it to thirty minutes, I was like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes, man, Yeah yeah. I think we talked for
Speaker 1: like an hour and a half.
Speaker 7: Were they were they getting annoyed that you wouldn't let
Speaker 7: him go?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 1: I think they loved it.
Speaker 11: Hey good, But now they loved that I was watching
Speaker 11: them because I was running the cameras too, And it's
Speaker 11: fun to see reality stars want and fight for camera
Speaker 11: time because someone will be talking and they see me
Speaker 11: zooming on them because they can monitor from the studio,
Speaker 11: and then they would be talking, oh I got a
Speaker 11: story too, I got a story, and that I would
Speaker 11: change the camera and zoom to them. So for me,
Speaker 11: it was kind of like fishing a little bit for
Speaker 11: who wants to talk? But they were talking and talking
Speaker 11: and talking, and they wouldn't stop. They could have been
Speaker 11: here for three or four hours I had. We almost
Speaker 11: had to cut it off and it'd be like lunchbox,
Speaker 11: We got to go take home with the lunchbox. You
Speaker 11: guys go finishes at home, plug their shows. Let's move on.
Speaker 7: We gotta go dude, Okay, So here it is.
Speaker 2: This is the Lunchbox, the Challenge Mania Special. Anything else
Speaker 2: that I haven't said because I don't really know what's
Speaker 2: going on here.
Speaker 1: No, we want to cursing. There is cursing.
Speaker 7: I was We're gonna get the E tag. Huh Yeah.
Speaker 11: Those are are so many curse words. It's hard to
Speaker 11: find every single one, but by them or Lunchbox, Lunchbox
Speaker 11: was clean. He was a very professional broadcaster. I would say,
Speaker 11: did a great job.
Speaker 9: But they're just reality show that That's just how they are.
Speaker 9: That's how they talk on the reality show. That's exactly
Speaker 9: who they are. They were genuine.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 2: Artists come in, that's who they are. They curse and
Speaker 2: they decide to throw on microphone. They're not gonna curse.
Speaker 2: I don't think it makes them less of who they
Speaker 2: are if they don't.
Speaker 9: Well, I didn't say, hey, there's a podcast, keep it clean, man,
Speaker 9: Like I wanted PAULI to be who he is. I
Speaker 9: wanted him to talk trash about bananas. I wanted to
Speaker 9: hear the inside scoop you here, behind the scenes stuff that,
Speaker 9: oh man, blow your mind.
Speaker 2: So everybody listening there will be bad words. We will
Speaker 2: have an E tag. I'm sure next to this. I
Speaker 2: hate the E tag on our podcast because that's not us.
Speaker 2: It's explessed. That means explicit.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't my fault.
Speaker 9: So maybe it was because I asked such good questions
Speaker 9: that we had to get to because they got so
Speaker 9: fired up.
Speaker 7: This is the Lunchbox Challenge Mania Special.
Speaker 8: Here you go, David.
Speaker 1: All right, cool, that's right, all right, lunch is good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. Check chagging my on, you're good. Cool, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm rolling over here on video.
Speaker 9: Oh man, welcome guys. I'm Lunchbox and this is I mean,
Speaker 9: my super Bowl. I love having you guys. I met
Speaker 9: Scott a few years ago. I am a die hard fan,
Speaker 9: so this is amazing. So I want to say welcome
Speaker 9: to POULI.
Speaker 1: Mark, Avery and Adam and then Davies. I didn't know
Speaker 1: you were coming to either, you know, hey, just random
Speaker 1: show up. Thank you, So thanks for being here, guys.
Speaker 8: Thank you guys, thanks for the hospitality.
Speaker 13: A couple of times ago we were in Nashville, these
Speaker 13: guys reached out. I forget it was through Mire, through
Speaker 13: Derek when we did a show here. And I think
Speaker 13: it's it's rare, but I believe we have a completely
Speaker 13: new cast with us here today. Then put it into
Speaker 13: that day, including Derek who can't be here. He sends
Speaker 13: his regards. He loves you guys too. But but yeah,
Speaker 13: that's what's cool about this is that we're kind of
Speaker 13: doing our own little you know, every you know show
Speaker 13: of the Real World Road Worles Challenge has its own
Speaker 13: like organic you know, cast chemistry, and then now you
Speaker 13: got a whole new slew.
Speaker 12: Yeah, cast rolling the dice in there. This is what
Speaker 12: you got today, baby.
Speaker 9: And then some of you guys don't know each other,
Speaker 9: but a lot do. So do you guys all know
Speaker 9: each other they're here?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean, I mean we never met.
Speaker 14: I haven't seen Mark since Trinidad in two thousand and five.
Speaker 14: I like, Paulie and I know each other virtually, but like, no, no,
Speaker 14: we met in Orlando.
Speaker 8: We also listen, we also met in Orlando. He was
Speaker 8: just very tipsy in Orlando. He doesn't remember, do you know.
Speaker 14: When there's alcohol in flights, it's just it's a recipe
Speaker 14: for awesome.
Speaker 8: But we haven't been sober, really caught up in forever,
Speaker 8: so it's good. It's nice to see everyone.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Davis, I haven't seen since forever forever, So yeah,
Speaker 12: So I mean, how.
Speaker 1: Did you, like, how do you guys stay in there?
Speaker 9: Just like, how does Davis if he hadn't been around,
Speaker 9: how does he get back into the group with you guys?
Speaker 15: Like?
Speaker 1: How does this? How does it all die together?
Speaker 5: We think?
Speaker 12: I think one of the great things about what we
Speaker 12: do when we're not shooting is stuff like this, right,
Speaker 12: getting to travel all over different cities doing Challenge. Manias
Speaker 12: and Scott always has a great knack of always interchanging
Speaker 12: people that haven't seen each other in a while.
Speaker 8: That makes sense.
Speaker 12: So the fact that we came here today and they're Carolina,
Speaker 12: I'm Florida, Pauli's Florida.
Speaker 8: Now you're here, Davis is here, so it made sense.
Speaker 12: And you know, not a lot of other shows do
Speaker 12: what we do in terms of getting back together so frequently.
Speaker 8: So it's just by just shuffling the deck. Man it's and.
Speaker 12: We're always I think we're always still big fans of
Speaker 12: each other, so that's always good.
Speaker 5: Well, these two, I feel.
Speaker 4: Like the Challenge is almost like Comic Con in a
Speaker 4: way when it comes to the fandoms and the people.
Speaker 4: There's so many of us, Like I feel like Big
Speaker 4: Brother can't do these pop ups or like Survivor can't
Speaker 4: really do these pop ups as frequently as you have
Speaker 4: said it.
Speaker 13: Up, there's not the connective tissue of you guys going
Speaker 13: back and playing with each other and things like that.
Speaker 5: Whereas like, because these two just played together on the
Speaker 5: fortieth season.
Speaker 13: Paul three yeah, these three yea, these two.
Speaker 5: Met on All Stars four. I believe you.
Speaker 13: Made your MTV debut two or three decades before hers,
Speaker 13: and now they're.
Speaker 9: Dating to get there, Like what brings you back after
Speaker 9: so long?
Speaker 5: Look at her?
Speaker 13: We might have to pass out?
Speaker 1: Is going to be there? Like what made you decide
Speaker 1: to say yes when they call you again?
Speaker 14: Okay, you never don't want to say yes. Maybe there
Speaker 14: are some people, but it is a really amazing family.
Speaker 14: It's like but as soon as soon as you get
Speaker 14: over the dysfunctional part of it and like kind of
Speaker 14: accept that we're all super flawed, and but like when
Speaker 14: we get together, we learn so much about each other.
Speaker 14: We have so much fun. Yes, we have to play
Speaker 14: a game, but like I've been waiting to get back
Speaker 14: into the family, you know what I mean, And to
Speaker 14: have the opportunity to date somebody who actually can like
Speaker 14: get what's going on when I'm away or she's away,
Speaker 14: we like realize that it's not just a vacation.
Speaker 5: It's it because it's like, it's.
Speaker 6: Definitely not a vacation, right, You're definitely.
Speaker 5: Not a vacation.
Speaker 14: You're in a human experiment. And unless you have somebody
Speaker 14: who's kind of like been through that trauma with you,
Speaker 14: we're all trauma bonded. That's that's why we like to
Speaker 14: get back together so we can watch our own compare
Speaker 14: our train wreck of lives.
Speaker 12: And I think now with All Stars bringing back some
Speaker 12: some of those faces that you grew up with. You know,
Speaker 12: Adam's a father now, a lot of the women on
Speaker 12: the show now are mom's a He's kind of playing
Speaker 12: a stepmom role, right, So, and I think having All
Speaker 12: Stars being so fresh to the audience, I knew it
Speaker 12: would be popular because when I sent the tweet out
Speaker 12: on Twitter or x, it went crazy. So the fact
Speaker 12: that people like Adam or Davis wants to come back,
Speaker 12: the fact that there's now a platform where if they
Speaker 12: come back, it's not weird anymore. It's like, oh, this
Speaker 12: is all Stars. We expect Davis to come back, We
Speaker 12: expect the Adam. So I think it's nice to have
Speaker 12: that as a secondary show to the franchise show. And
Speaker 12: you know, now they're kind of inter placing each other.
Speaker 12: There's All Stars on the franchise, Franchise on the All Stars.
Speaker 12: So it's a good little brother sister show, I think.
Speaker 9: And I need you guys to slow down though, because
Speaker 9: there's an elevent in the room. I haven't watched this
Speaker 9: season of All Stars, like The Rivals.
Speaker 1: I haven't.
Speaker 9: I just finished Battle the Eras and dissected that whole
Speaker 9: thing and just was like, man, that was amazing.
Speaker 1: And it's like the next week All Stars Rivals, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, I need a break.
Speaker 9: I need to decompress, go through like who I thought
Speaker 9: played the best game? What the show was? Like, how
Speaker 9: are you guys doing them so fast? Can we slow
Speaker 9: down a little bit?
Speaker 5: You're not wrong?
Speaker 8: Well, they pumped.
Speaker 13: They actually they got him back to back in the
Speaker 13: same country. They used a lot of the same crew,
Speaker 13: they used a lot of the same equipment.
Speaker 5: Things like that.
Speaker 8: That was more of the time a coin.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and they use it, to be honest with you,
Speaker 13: a lot of the same cast members got back on
Speaker 13: a flight whent right, you know your Devn's, your John
Speaker 13: A's had just done forty. They went and filmed All
Speaker 13: Stars Leroy before forty even aired. So literally they went
Speaker 13: they got done, I believe in May with forty and
Speaker 13: they had All Stars in the can by the end
Speaker 13: of July, all done back to back.
Speaker 9: So when you get eliminated, do they fly you home
Speaker 9: or do you have to go to a hotel like
Speaker 9: on Survivor because people can't know.
Speaker 5: Eliminated, where'd they send you?
Speaker 8: So I'll also be for Poulli and I we we
Speaker 8: went together.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't want to ruin it, so like
Speaker 1: you know, so.
Speaker 12: When we got eliminated Vietnam, which was literally like four
Speaker 12: o'clock in the morning, remember that.
Speaker 5: You're not going to believe.
Speaker 12: So we went to what we thought was going to
Speaker 12: be this amazing hotel. We went to a back alley
Speaker 12: hostel and I remember going into the lobby and between
Speaker 12: the desk and the lobby was a huge mountain dirt bike.
Speaker 12: So there's a motorcycle like in the between, and no
Speaker 12: one was there, and it took forever to get our rooms.
Speaker 12: I remember I finally got my room and I opened
Speaker 12: my room. I just want to relax by myself because
Speaker 12: I hadn't had a loone time if forever. And I
Speaker 12: walk in and there's a Vietnamese couple in the bed
Speaker 12: and they're like it's good to me, and I'm like,
Speaker 12: oh man. So then I blew my top. I was like,
Speaker 12: if I don't get an f in room in the
Speaker 12: next five minutes. So anyway, it just it wasn't as
Speaker 12: glamorous as I thought it was going to.
Speaker 4: Be because what they do to us is when we
Speaker 4: first come in and you know, it's all the glam
Speaker 4: of like everybody, Oh my god, you're on together. They
Speaker 4: put us in this five star hotel, we're all just
Speaker 4: like getting treated like royalty. Everybody's kind of hanging out.
Speaker 4: You get access to the gym, you get food whenever
Speaker 4: you want, you get whatever you want, you get limited
Speaker 4: and they're just like fuck.
Speaker 5: Off, and like we're in this back back like this hostel.
Speaker 5: The power was going out all day.
Speaker 4: And now, mind you, in Vietnam prime like summer one
Speaker 4: hundred degrees, one hundred plus humidity, the power goes off.
Speaker 4: Your room is an instant sweatbox and then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden it comes back on and you're right in.
Speaker 5: An ice box.
Speaker 4: You walk out into the hallway immediately hit by there
Speaker 4: nobody downstairs spoke English, so you're trying to ask them
Speaker 4: where the best food places.
Speaker 5: Are and they're just like staring at you.
Speaker 13: I mean you were hope you were just Mark never
Speaker 13: loses his mind, So for Mark to blow is top.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: You just I guess when you're in a foreign country
Speaker 12: like that and there's a language barrier and stuff, you're
Speaker 12: expecting to have someone down there just at you know,
Speaker 12: on post at all times.
Speaker 8: It's we didn't get that. So I remember a lot
Speaker 8: of us were like, well when do you think we're leaving?
Speaker 8: Like who's gonna tell us or come to our door?
Speaker 8: But it all worked out.
Speaker 12: But yeah, when you arrived to the to the show,
Speaker 12: it's a lot more glamorous, I think than when you leave.
Speaker 13: And you guys did so much complain that when they
Speaker 13: did bring in these guys for All Stars five, they
Speaker 13: had worked out some of those kinks.
Speaker 5: The conditions were a little.
Speaker 12: Better their their house, their house, their house, and conditions
Speaker 12: on All Stars five was head and shoulders above Season
Speaker 12: forty because if you look at Season forty.
Speaker 8: It looks amazing, right.
Speaker 9: Looks amazing, but but what it is well was a
Speaker 9: little funny. Listen, I didn't really understand that part. I
Speaker 9: totally agree with you down to cook and that was
Speaker 9: all weird.
Speaker 12: Let me let me speak on that. It looks amazing, right,
Speaker 12: walk in, It looks amazing, but it's it's just a
Speaker 12: shell of a house, right, so everything they brought in
Speaker 12: wasn't so like we actually were using the bathroom outside
Speaker 12: and porta potties and showering outside because it wasn't really
Speaker 12: a functional house.
Speaker 8: It looks great on a.
Speaker 5: Movie, it's like a castle, but they didn't have showers
Speaker 5: and castles.
Speaker 12: So if you notice the kitchen, right, the kitchen with
Speaker 12: the thing like THEO couldn't even I mean, I'm bending
Speaker 12: down to try to do stuff.
Speaker 8: So it was it looks amazing.
Speaker 12: It looks amazing, and I think you know, some of
Speaker 12: the fans were like, you guys were in this castle,
Speaker 12: but like it's.
Speaker 8: In not unless you've been there. You were there.
Speaker 4: It wasn't mind the house because I hate bunk beds.
Speaker 4: So the fact that we each had our individual beds
Speaker 4: and we had a back room for our closet that
Speaker 4: had locker rooms for our clothes, because like, the biggest
Speaker 4: pain in the ass is when you're in a house
Speaker 4: and everybody has their suitcases in the room that has
Speaker 4: bunk beds, you're vying for storage space. This house had
Speaker 4: the storage space had single beds, so people weren't climbing
Speaker 4: over you.
Speaker 5: You know. I didn't mind it.
Speaker 4: The showering in the bathrooms though, and the food definitely interesting,
Speaker 4: but once again, the kitchen was made for somebody my size,
Speaker 4: so I didn't mind it.
Speaker 5: And luckily for you, you weren't there very long. I
Speaker 5: was there very long at all.
Speaker 4: I think I spent more time in the hostile hotel,
Speaker 4: you know, recovering from my concussions than I did in
Speaker 4: the house, which was another interesting, uh interesting thing to
Speaker 4: have to witness.
Speaker 9: So how long are you there before you start shooting
Speaker 9: like you fly in? Do you start doing like physicals?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 12: We were there, We were there for for for forty
Speaker 12: We were there good week and a half.
Speaker 10: Yeah, week and a half because we were waiting for other
Speaker 10: cast members to show up.
Speaker 5: That's extenuating circumstance.
Speaker 4: So a game, a game was being played for a
Speaker 4: week and a half with cameras not on.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 5: They don't they don't like it that that way.
Speaker 13: There was one cast member that they really wanted who
Speaker 13: could only start a little later than everyone else.
Speaker 5: And that's what also I.
Speaker 1: Think, wa wait, wait do you want to name names?
Speaker 13: Well, they show it on the show. He comes at
Speaker 13: Jordan comes in a little bit later. They all do
Speaker 13: like this welcome party, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 13: Jordan kind of shows up at the house and there's
Speaker 13: just just crazy tracking shot of like behind him with
Speaker 13: the cowboy hats and you see it's kind of badass
Speaker 13: and whatnot. And they make it like it's this big,
Speaker 13: glamorous entrance and finding good. But for that to have happened,
Speaker 13: you guys.
Speaker 4: Are waiting for ten days for and anyone on to
Speaker 4: win after coming in late, and this, you know crazy.
Speaker 12: The craziest thing was I remember waking up and someone
Speaker 12: saying Jordan's here. I'm like, no way, and like, yeah,
Speaker 12: he's here, I'm like where is he? Like you're just
Speaker 12: hanging out down like it wasn't he They made it
Speaker 12: seem like this huge thing on TV.
Speaker 5: But they just the time while we were sleeping.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it like this shows up and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 8: he is here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they did do a whole thing where
Speaker 4: he showed up at the Errors Invitational, was talking shit
Speaker 4: to everybody. Yeah, and everybody's sitting there like he's the
Speaker 4: first one going in.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Never touches in elimination off season. You guys dropped
Speaker 5: the ball there.
Speaker 9: So that's where they Okay, so they had people flying
Speaker 9: in what was the one before, uh, Battle the Eras?
Speaker 1: Was it a Battle for a new Champion?
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So is that filming the same spot too?
Speaker 9: Because I felt like everybody that came in and battled
Speaker 9: was on Battle the Eras, Like I felt like it
Speaker 9: was a precursor.
Speaker 5: Like a tease, like everytia. Wasn't it Battle for a
Speaker 5: new Champion?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Croat? Yeah yeah, because they flew into Italy or something
Speaker 5: like that, right, and.
Speaker 12: They always pick international spot just for insurance, and it's
Speaker 12: a lot way cheaper.
Speaker 9: Now, are there any like stuff we don't see on
Speaker 9: camera when you guys go out to these bars and
Speaker 9: you have the bar to yourself, awkward as crap, Like
Speaker 9: I mean, because you're already with the same people you're
Speaker 9: in the house with. I like it back in the
Speaker 9: day when you'd go to the club and there was
Speaker 9: random people at the then they're like, who are the
Speaker 9: hell of these people? That was my time, yes exactly,
Speaker 9: But now they make it where you have the bar
Speaker 9: to yourself. Is there any shadiness like where you're like, WHOA,
Speaker 9: I don't think we should be like in these countries.
Speaker 14: No.
Speaker 10: They I think that they protect us pretty well, like
Speaker 10: we're always surrounded by security, almost to the point like
Speaker 10: it's like if you didn't want people to notice that
Speaker 10: we were there, well with them, you're going to notice
Speaker 10: that we're there. Like it's almost like a production just
Speaker 10: going into a place, like they stop, they like like
Speaker 10: basically make a human wall. They like shush everybody in
Speaker 10: and then close the door, like they they're very like
Speaker 10: we're definitely little ducklings, I would say.
Speaker 1: And then like filming wise, this is behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: I want to know a little bit.
Speaker 9: When you're like walking out to the challenge or walking
Speaker 9: back into the house, do they make you refilm that
Speaker 9: ten times?
Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent. Oh exactly.
Speaker 1: You needed these two shots and I don't drone shot.
Speaker 5: I don't understand why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and I don't know.
Speaker 5: What to use them.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm talking about. Some pies they have
Speaker 1: us brings.
Speaker 14: They're like, get us to bring eighty stuff or like
Speaker 14: gold for the gold party, and we have what we
Speaker 14: think is the best time, probably one of the best events,
Speaker 14: and then you don't even see it on like the episode,
Speaker 14: you realize just how little time there is for them
Speaker 14: to get in every single bit of storyline.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 4: I don't know how it was back in the day
Speaker 4: when you were mingling with the locals, but like, was
Speaker 4: there any trouble that happened?
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, because CT did exist.
Speaker 12: I mean back in a I remember in Jamaica with Shady,
Speaker 12: Trinidad Tobago with Shady because we didn't clear the bars.
Speaker 12: We just kind of went in as ourselves, and there
Speaker 12: was there was people getting in arguments or fights. I
Speaker 12: think one of the times a girl kissed a random
Speaker 12: local at the bar. But it was it wasn't as
Speaker 12: safe back then, for sure, one hundred percent. Now now
Speaker 12: it's like we know when we're going out and we
Speaker 12: know what it's gonna be, and a lot of times
Speaker 12: we're like, let's just all drink here.
Speaker 9: It's like it's like what, I mean, why are we
Speaker 9: going Because they had to change.
Speaker 8: Yes, a million percent.
Speaker 12: So we're we're all tired. We're like we just have
Speaker 12: bars at the at the I mean beers at the
Speaker 12: bar here.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you get to the bar too, it's like three
Speaker 10: hours later, no one wants.
Speaker 7: To go out.
Speaker 10: It's because by the time they actually do all the
Speaker 10: exiting and entrance shots, and then you go out to
Speaker 10: the bars, it's probably is.
Speaker 5: Their music playing or they have to keep it no music.
Speaker 5: And then there's sometimes like people.
Speaker 14: Who aren't allowed certain drinks. So you'll go into a
Speaker 14: bar and it's like all right, no brown liquor. Yeah,
Speaker 14: and like and then and then certain people will leave
Speaker 14: and then like you're coming to the same more the
Speaker 14: next week. It's like can we you guys can drink
Speaker 14: whatever you want, all right.
Speaker 4: There's some people are just seeing like when Tony leaves.
Speaker 13: So many house, everybody's like, all right, guys, you could
Speaker 13: drink whatever you want.
Speaker 12: Now they actually it's funny because back in the day
Speaker 12: they would just you could have.
Speaker 8: It was like you have whatever you want. But now
Speaker 8: they like they'll dye the vodka bottles so blue national.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so like they were I remember people pouring vodka
Speaker 12: bottles and water bottles back then, but now like they'll
Speaker 12: dye the vodka blues so you can see what they're
Speaker 12: actually drinking. It's just it was the wild West back
Speaker 12: and I remember on our days off in Trinidad and Tobago.
Speaker 12: On my day off, Robin and I left the set,
Speaker 12: went and rented a hotel away from everyone for two.
Speaker 8: Days and then show back up. So like it was
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 5: So Mark has kids in Trinidad, got.
Speaker 8: Little ones running around in Trinidad.
Speaker 1: Wait, so, Adam, you kind of answered my question. I thought.
Speaker 9: When I watched the parties, the theme parties, I thought, Okay,
Speaker 9: they either had to tell you beforehand or they tell you, okay,
Speaker 9: in two days, we're going to have this party.
Speaker 1: What do you want? And they go to the store
Speaker 1: and buy it for you.
Speaker 14: They'll put together little liquor list, but like a lot
Speaker 14: of the stuff, sometimes they won't even tell you. Be
Speaker 14: like I mean, some like Derek will decide that we're
Speaker 14: just going to have a palm tree party right to like,
Speaker 14: or toga party. Yeah, toga party from the from Mexico,
Speaker 14: from Hurricane Juliet. That was that was where that whole
Speaker 14: thing started.
Speaker 12: Yeah, And they they'll they'll give you a heads up,
Speaker 12: like hey, guys, bring some seventies gear and you know
Speaker 12: what it's for.
Speaker 8: But I mean a lot of.
Speaker 12: The times, like like Adam was saying, it's like, you know,
Speaker 12: you just show up and people like, hey, tonight, we're
Speaker 12: gonna do a you know, a bikini thing or this,
Speaker 12: or bring you your swim trunks.
Speaker 9: How hard is it to stay enthused the whole day
Speaker 9: when you're at these challenges because on TV it looks
Speaker 9: like it takes an hour thirty minutes, and you're obviously
Speaker 9: there for eight hours because it's sunlight and it is dark.
Speaker 1: So like, how do you guys?
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask Mark and Adam this back in
Speaker 4: the day, how early would they be able to finish
Speaker 4: the challenges and wrap them?
Speaker 5: Because I remember on my first three seasons we were.
Speaker 4: Done by like three or four pm, which gave you
Speaker 4: time to get back to the house, chill, relax, do deliberations.
Speaker 5: Then go out.
Speaker 4: And then in this newer time period, you're like on
Speaker 4: set from eight am until like ten pm. You get
Speaker 4: home at midnight and they're like, all right, guys, have
Speaker 4: enough energy to change, shower and go the fuck out
Speaker 4: to the bar. Like one two pm, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: is there a way to finish these faster during the day?
Speaker 5: Do we need every single shot? Like?
Speaker 13: Are you getting all of our bulges with every shot here?
Speaker 12: Like I will say the more recent challenges takes because
Speaker 12: there's so much more technolog alge takes so much longer
Speaker 12: to film. Like you said, We're up sometimes on a
Speaker 12: bus for two hours, do.
Speaker 8: The thing, do all the stuff?
Speaker 12: Come back, it's it's past dinner, and then they want
Speaker 12: you to shower and go out real quick. But I
Speaker 12: remember one of the greatest things was Battle the Sexes too.
Speaker 12: We were in Santa Fe, New Mexico. We the boys
Speaker 12: had a house and the girls had a house on
Speaker 12: the on the set. We didn't really leave the set
Speaker 12: the set at all to do challenges because they were
Speaker 12: so kind of basic. So like we would just be like,
Speaker 12: walk out to our challenge, we would do it. It would
Speaker 12: be two hours later we back in our house. It
Speaker 12: some was still out. We could bullshit around, so it
Speaker 12: was it was definitely less technical back in there. I
Speaker 12: mean we did eventually go to like the big heights
Speaker 12: stuff and the big car crashes, but back then it
Speaker 12: was like, Okay, guys, you're gonna walk through this maze
Speaker 12: of snakes and pick up these coins. So that was
Speaker 12: like you don't really need to go anywhere for that.
Speaker 1: Are the challenges better now or were they better back then?
Speaker 8: Because like they're more fun back then, they're better now?
Speaker 9: Okay, because like on Battle or the Eras, when they're
Speaker 9: doing the car off the cliff and TJ is selling
Speaker 9: it like it is the coolest challenge ever. As a viewer,
Speaker 9: it was stupid. It was so stupid because they literally
Speaker 9: didn't do anything. The bungee cord pulls them out and
Speaker 9: the car goes over the cliff and then you just
Speaker 9: drop in the water. It was nothing, and they added
Speaker 9: like it was and I'm like, can we just get
Speaker 9: back to the almost.
Speaker 8: Almost and.
Speaker 14: When you're doing it, you're doing it for the win
Speaker 14: and the wind is awesome, right yes? That so so
Speaker 14: not hard at all to get yourself amped up, not
Speaker 14: not even a little bit hard to get yourself amped up.
Speaker 14: But like you kind of look into somebody who's like,
Speaker 14: what's your favorite challenge, and I'm like, uh, eliminations were
Speaker 14: actually my favorite, my favorite part, Like that some of
Speaker 14: the challenges you do are like I don't know. In
Speaker 14: the old days, we had dog remember dog fighting and
Speaker 14: tell you're right and nice skydive, I mean there's pictures
Speaker 14: of people jumping out of fucking airplanes with parachutes single parachuting,
Speaker 14: laying on their own and they've.
Speaker 5: Never taken a para shooting class. You like, find me
Speaker 5: what insurance company? Who will insure it? Like there was
Speaker 5: sky divemember with zero joke.
Speaker 12: There was a challenge back in the day where they
Speaker 12: had these these single engine planes and you you were
Speaker 12: you were tethered, but you still dangerous.
Speaker 8: You had to get out of your.
Speaker 12: Seat, climb on top of the plane, hook yourself in
Speaker 12: to this thing, and then the plane would do a
Speaker 12: three sixty with you standing on it.
Speaker 8: Like in terms of like insanity, like who checks that?
Speaker 8: You know what I mean? Like, wait, you're talking about
Speaker 8: crazy shit.
Speaker 13: They kind of want to have their cake and eat
Speaker 13: it too, since everything's so much safer now, they want
Speaker 13: to have like the explosions or the thing falling off
Speaker 13: a cliff. But they know that they can't do anything
Speaker 13: half as unsafe as they used to do it. So
Speaker 13: what they do is they'll have like an explosion go off,
Speaker 13: but it'll have nothing to do with what they actually did.
Speaker 13: Like they solve a puzzle and then there's an explosion
Speaker 13: or a cargoes off a cliff and then they have to.
Speaker 5: Do and you're like, specifically told Bessie did jumping through?
Speaker 1: Is that on fire?
Speaker 5: I wanted to do that too.
Speaker 14: I was like, can I every second count? Right?
Speaker 5: DJ?
Speaker 8: Could we jump through?
Speaker 14: When He's like, absolutely not, that was the most fasty
Speaker 14: thing to do right through.
Speaker 5: Well, it was a shock that he was the one
Speaker 5: that did that.
Speaker 9: No, So, Paulie, when you come from Big Brother, Yeah, like,
Speaker 9: is it hard to acclimate? Is it like everybody automatically like, oh,
Speaker 9: you're a big Brother, you don't know how to do
Speaker 9: this crap? Like you're you're you're an outsider? How does
Speaker 9: that work? And how does it in your guys' eyes
Speaker 9: when you have Big Brother, Survivor.
Speaker 1: You got Michelle, you got all them? Is it like? Man,
Speaker 1: you guys are just posers?
Speaker 8: I think, And then I'll let paul you get finish this.
Speaker 12: But I think in terms of Big Brother and Survivor
Speaker 12: coming in, I think they're actually equal or better strategic
Speaker 12: players than the Challenge players because the Challenge players are
Speaker 12: more I think just back in the day at least
Speaker 12: we're very physical and party did it. But their show
Speaker 12: is like Big Brother, you have to be very strategic,
Speaker 12: and same with Survivor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think when I came on, I
Speaker 4: adapted to the MTV style of playing because I just
Speaker 4: personally liked it better because in Big Brother and Survivor
Speaker 4: you kind of have to be nice and you almost
Speaker 4: have to like play a strategic game because it's a
Speaker 4: voting thing, whereas like in the Challenge you could kind
Speaker 4: of sit there and be like, well, I'll do whatever
Speaker 4: I want because you got to throw me in to
Speaker 4: go home.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't too hard to adapt.
Speaker 4: I mean, especially when you're watching people like Johnny and
Speaker 4: CT and West for years, you're like, all right, they're
Speaker 4: doing the exact same thing that they've always done. There's
Speaker 4: not really much changing from their strategy. I do think
Speaker 4: that Challengers are a little bit better in terms of
Speaker 4: exchanging social currency because they understand that this is a
Speaker 4: game where you do come back, whereas like Big Brother
Speaker 4: players and Survivor players will go.
Speaker 5: In and kind of do it.
Speaker 13: I would like to think that when I was on
Speaker 13: in the beginning, we didn't play like Big Brother Survivor players,
Speaker 13: but I feel like the Big Brother and Survivor players
Speaker 13: that have come in after definitely have changed the game
Speaker 13: to be a little bit more snaky, playing in the shadows,
Speaker 13: you know, saying you're working with somebody but then also
Speaker 13: working with their to me and trying to keep yourself
Speaker 13: in that like on the fence position.
Speaker 5: And I don't really like that.
Speaker 4: The only reason why I even stand up for my
Speaker 4: CBS people now is because I feel like they're pussies
Speaker 4: and they just get shipped on online and they're just like,
Speaker 4: we're not going to tweet back, and they get shipped
Speaker 4: on in the house and we're.
Speaker 5: Not going to argue back.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I hate that you guys are so
Speaker 4: soft and you don't have a backbone and stand up
Speaker 4: for yourselves. So I guess I'll be the asshole that
Speaker 4: is always, you know, doing dumb shit and like getting
Speaker 4: into trouble on social media and everything.
Speaker 13: But like you, I only do that because I only
Speaker 13: do that because they're literally getting shipped on and not
Speaker 13: doing anything.
Speaker 1: Like they wouldn't.
Speaker 5: I fucking paved the way for his shoulder.
Speaker 1: This is what I was gonna say.
Speaker 9: Most rookies come in and play like little bitches. Paulie,
Speaker 9: you came in like you were going to set the
Speaker 9: house on fire, Like you came.
Speaker 1: In like look, mother, I'm here.
Speaker 9: And you acted like a vet, like you had big balls,
Speaker 9: where most rookies are.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'm a rookie.
Speaker 9: I guess I'm to go in, you know what I mean,
Speaker 9: Like that's they won't vote for a veteran. You, on
Speaker 9: the other hand, like why why why rookies like that?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean I think that hit listen that dives into
Speaker 4: like what my childhood was like, and what my it
Speaker 4: was like Italian, you know, all these things. But I
Speaker 4: also think I came in a little bit later. My
Speaker 4: frontal lobe was a little developed, so when these guys
Speaker 4: tried to use their usual tactics of gas lighting and narcissism,
Speaker 4: I was like, you guys are fucking dumb, and I
Speaker 4: think I can outsmart you guys for the most part.
Speaker 5: And I think that's what it was like. I remember
Speaker 5: walking into a.
Speaker 4: Room and them kind of be like, you know, I
Speaker 4: think it was you that said this, Polly, and I
Speaker 4: was like, all right, here's what we're not gonna do
Speaker 4: is lie. But if you guys want to throw me in,
Speaker 4: just say you want to throw me in, but don't
Speaker 4: do this whole fucking bullshit of like, oh you would
Speaker 4: do Like, no, I didn't say that. You guys need
Speaker 4: a reason to throw somebody in. You're fucking pussy and
Speaker 4: that is what it is, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And and also like I feel like rookies, they they
Speaker 4: bend the knee. So it's like I was pissed that
Speaker 4: I got ganged up on. I'd go to this stupid
Speaker 4: ass redemption house and you know, I have the opportunity
Speaker 4: to send people's girlfriends home, and I fucking did. And
Speaker 4: they were like why did you do that? That was
Speaker 4: kind of like a stupid move, And I was like
Speaker 4: is it stupid? I was like, you pissed me off?
Speaker 4: I said, so why wouldn't I send your girlfriend's home
Speaker 4: and tell you that they were banging people in the
Speaker 4: Redemption house to fuck with your head?
Speaker 5: Like what am I gonna do? You sent me into
Speaker 5: the Redemption house.
Speaker 13: I'm supposed to come back and be like, yes, mister Vett,
Speaker 13: let me get on my knees and suck your dick. No,
Speaker 13: thank you, like not happening. Sorry, Rachel, We'll be right
Speaker 13: back there. So let's compare the Big Brother House to
Speaker 13: a Challenge house. Yeah, like I watched I just started.
Speaker 9: Watching Big Brother during COVID because I never watched it,
Speaker 9: and I am like, that has to be of those
Speaker 9: most boring house in the world because you really have
Speaker 9: nothing to do, at least on the challenge.
Speaker 1: On real World you can go swim in the pool,
Speaker 1: Like is it just like night and day?
Speaker 4: The Challenge has is so much better. The challenge experience
Speaker 4: is so much better. I say this all the time.
Speaker 4: Big Brother House isn't a house, it's a studio live
Speaker 4: and the backyard is shut off for four days out
Speaker 4: of the week, so you're getting deprived sunlight. You don't
Speaker 4: have windows, it's mirrors with cameras behind them.
Speaker 5: It's a very small house.
Speaker 4: Like the house is like a little bit bigger than
Speaker 4: like maybe just this section. And then you have like that,
Speaker 4: you have sixteen people, two bathrooms. It's disgusting. There's aunt infestations.
Speaker 4: You have people over the loudspeakers constantly like playing these
Speaker 4: mental games with you, like Scott, please stop singing, Scott,
Speaker 4: please don't do movie quotes, and like they're doing it
Speaker 4: say like mentally make you break, So I hate it.
Speaker 4: The Challenge House is like night and day different, Like
Speaker 4: I'm on vacation when I'm in the Challenge House.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you said vacation, they said work.
Speaker 9: So yeah, how much enjoyment, Like is it a little
Speaker 9: bit like there's times in the house where you're just
Speaker 9: relaxing and you're not doing game or is it always
Speaker 9: you're stressed about the game.
Speaker 12: What I found interesting, especially on forty because listen, I
Speaker 12: came from the very very beginning, and it was.
Speaker 1: And it used to be just party party.
Speaker 12: It was it was party party, no, but it was dud.
Speaker 12: There was no they didn't have a gym for us.
Speaker 12: Back then, there was no gym. They had endless booze,
Speaker 12: but no gym. But back then it was like party, party, party. Oh,
Speaker 12: we have a challenge to do in six hours. Okay,
Speaker 12: let's maybe go to bed now. Like now, what I
Speaker 12: noticed in forty, especially Era three and Era four, was
Speaker 12: I would walk over to their area during the day
Speaker 12: and they'd be like doing puzzles and studying and all
Speaker 12: this almost like doing homework, right, and all.
Speaker 5: Stars were in there.
Speaker 14: Nowadays, and I'm like we referud to like all these
Speaker 14: new people of the new era, and definitely everybody comes
Speaker 14: a new era, like yeah, but they're like or.
Speaker 5: Maybe she's not.
Speaker 14: She's read on the cuspy because she already shared at
Speaker 14: least ten weeks of her life on real world, and which.
Speaker 5: I know somebody that deep.
Speaker 14: It's tough for them to go on a game when
Speaker 14: you haven't already like divulged your like utmost vulnerabilities to
Speaker 14: the entire fucking world and they already know you're like
Speaker 14: how many brothers, sisters where I grew up all that
Speaker 14: type of stuff. It's so much easier for them to like,
Speaker 14: youse shit against me and like, and I don't even
Speaker 14: realize that they're playing a game and constantly doing I mean,
Speaker 14: I'm gonna start changing things up now because you know,
Speaker 14: coming out of the nursing home.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 5: But they don't.
Speaker 14: They don't let us out multiple times in a row
Speaker 14: unless we come back, like you know, with a gun story.
Speaker 12: I did notice that some of those younger players are
Speaker 12: very into studying during like when you're not shooting, Whereas
Speaker 12: back in the day it was it was either challenge
Speaker 12: or what are we doing to have a good time.
Speaker 12: There was never like let's do Sudoku or let's do
Speaker 12: this puzzle games back like I Thinkland Thyland, Kyland, especially
Speaker 12: Kyland had a book and was doing stuff every minute
Speaker 12: of the day, and like, I'm he's super smart guy
Speaker 12: and he's very strategic. But I'm like, dude, are you
Speaker 12: having fun?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: No, he I'm like you got it too nice to them, though,
Speaker 4: like you just let them study and stuff. Like if
Speaker 4: you walked in and was like nerd, like quit your
Speaker 4: study and you lose her and like start a round them.
Speaker 10: I say, like the last like what for years fires
Speaker 10: people started like really amping up on like the puzzles yeah.
Speaker 12: Like three yeah, and the trivia and like you know
Speaker 12: what I hate. I told them in the car. I
Speaker 12: told I told them in the car. If I watch
Speaker 12: the challenge now, it's like eighty percent puzzles, and I'm like,
Speaker 12: what the fuck. I'm like, let's go back to where
Speaker 12: it was just fun, goofy stuff. It doesn't have to
Speaker 12: be all like a marathon and all that.
Speaker 16: Let's do the rubbing of this, right, but like this
Speaker 16: it's like it's like come on, you guys, somebody yeah,
Speaker 16: because let's go yeah, but now it's like you have
Speaker 16: five pentagons in front of you.
Speaker 5: This is all.
Speaker 8: It's like, it's like enough.
Speaker 12: It's like, especially as a viewer, like why am I
Speaker 12: going to watch them do a puzzle when they could
Speaker 12: be in speedos fucking melting ice with their bodies.
Speaker 4: You know, we're just switching up every now and then
Speaker 4: everything has a puzzle comput but it's always.
Speaker 12: A puzzle now, And I'm like, Jesus enough with the thought, Okay,
Speaker 12: what about the eating?
Speaker 1: Is the eating stupid?
Speaker 12: I don't mind the eating because I don't mind it,
Speaker 12: but like they don't do that all with like that
Speaker 12: is that's used sporadically at a perfect time, and I
Speaker 12: think in the games usually finals and whatnot. But like
Speaker 12: it's not like it's every challenge is an eating challenge,
Speaker 12: but the puzzle thing, man, holy shit.
Speaker 14: And the eating challenge at least like on our season,
Speaker 14: not the one that just like the normal one wasn't
Speaker 14: that crazy, Like sometimes it's fun. It could be a
Speaker 14: little bit of an equalizer when it is like really crazy.
Speaker 13: Now they're super sensitive to dietary restrictions, which is like
Speaker 13: counterintuitive to the whole thing. Like they'll be like all right,
Speaker 13: So you guys are gonna have to eat these fishballs.
Speaker 5: There's this tofu with Maya. You can eat this shoelace.
Speaker 1: Haha, we got you.
Speaker 5: We dipped it in mud first.
Speaker 13: And.
Speaker 5: They thought they had me. They were like, this is
Speaker 5: a vegan shiit. I was like, yeah, but is it keto?
Speaker 13: Oh glad we got a joke. But I love how
Speaker 13: like the point of these is to torture. But then
Speaker 13: they're like, but we're gonna do it, like, you know,
Speaker 13: in an inclusive way.
Speaker 8: We're gonna tour tore you get the peanut butter.
Speaker 5: I'd never make you eat nuts.
Speaker 4: Come on, you know, Like I just don't get it
Speaker 4: because everybody, I remember, everybody made fun of Final Reckoning
Speaker 4: so badly for just how soft it had gotten. And
Speaker 4: then Booth literally murdered us for War the World's one
Speaker 4: and War the World two, and then it kind of
Speaker 4: went back to wait, don't don't kill him that much.
Speaker 4: Let's let's give people options. You know, when they cast
Speaker 4: Jose knowing he couldn't swim, and he jumped in a
Speaker 4: pool without a life checker, not like an idiot, and
Speaker 4: almost sunk to the bottom and drowned, like can we.
Speaker 5: Go back to like not caring about our health, like
Speaker 5: just a little bit.
Speaker 9: Like the Battle of the Eras the final, it was
Speaker 9: it the stupidest, most unfair final in the history of
Speaker 9: the Challenge.
Speaker 13: Well, I hear Shortan beforehand. No, pretty equal. Jordan's the
Speaker 13: best swimmer.
Speaker 1: I get that, but.
Speaker 12: Again, you have to you know, the problem is too
Speaker 12: is and Paulie, We've had this conversation before, is a
Speaker 12: lot of the top tier executives don't come from a competitive,
Speaker 12: like a real physical competitive background, So when you see
Speaker 12: stuff like that, you're you're just like, man, this just
Speaker 12: doesn't make sense, Like this is this is not evening
Speaker 12: the playing field by by any means. If anything, it's
Speaker 12: skewing it the furthest So I don't know. I love
Speaker 12: some of the challenges that they do. I think they're great,
Speaker 12: but some of them I scratched my head and I'm like,
Speaker 12: why why this? You know, even the elimination he just
Speaker 12: did where they're like they saved, like it's the biggler.
Speaker 12: It's the biggest elimination, right, it's the biggest one who
Speaker 12: goes to the final and your toughest teams.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and the elimination was just so like subpar.
Speaker 12: It was like a guessing chance game, and like everyone
Speaker 12: was like, man, I would rather than like balance this
Speaker 12: and then pull this or this this and then do
Speaker 12: it like but it was just that to have that
Speaker 12: as the last one seemed a little out of play.
Speaker 13: You haven't watched it, but for instance, like this season
Speaker 13: of All Stars, and I think even the last one,
Speaker 13: there's there's no haul brawl, there's no poll wrestle, there's
Speaker 13: no balls in a lot of the quintessential challenge eliminations
Speaker 13: that are pretty low fine and easy to set up.
Speaker 13: And I would argue even at like you know, like
Speaker 13: you guys on All Stars were doing you and Littari
Speaker 13: and things like that, so you can't even really say that,
Speaker 13: like you know, when you're getting up there in age
Speaker 13: it's less safe. But for whatever reason, they've kind of
Speaker 13: stripped All Stars of those completely and replaced it with
Speaker 13: you were literally guessing whether Nanni had something in a
Speaker 13: box that was the elimination.
Speaker 14: It was really it was really scary to go into
Speaker 14: those eliminations and know that it's a coin flip, right, yeah,
Speaker 14: because initially I want to I want like Steve and
Speaker 14: I kind of had something to prove as soon as
Speaker 14: your guys, as soon as they were like, oh it,
Speaker 14: all male teams have such an advantage. I was like, fuck,
Speaker 14: let's just take everybody out. Everyone they're gonna do this
Speaker 14: to us. Let's just destroy every single person. And Steve's like,
Speaker 14: look at these man, He's like another team goes into
Speaker 14: that first one like Beth and John A could have
Speaker 14: beat us, like they're one is crazy one one little thing.
Speaker 14: And so you wonder, You're like, are they planning these
Speaker 14: do they how much time do they have before the day?
Speaker 14: Could they change it up? Like so basically that call
Speaker 14: your bluff and then the chopstick carry was that set
Speaker 14: up or did they do that for Turbo and not
Speaker 14: against Steve?
Speaker 5: And I like to I want to.
Speaker 4: Know you want to be crazy And I don't know
Speaker 4: if the Godfather can do this. I mean, he can
Speaker 4: almost walk on water at this point with what he
Speaker 4: with All Stars. But do I feel like I feel
Speaker 4: like there were almost at a time where there could
Speaker 4: be a panel of the more sage veteran people to
Speaker 4: be able to work hand in hand with Buna, Murray
Speaker 4: and MTV in order to almost make it the ultimate show, right,
Speaker 4: because you guys have done enough where you guys could
Speaker 4: have those conversations with the higher up executives and be like, hey,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a Mark long. He's not competing on
Speaker 4: this season, but he's going to be in that back
Speaker 4: room with the TVs and he's going to be listening
Speaker 4: in on the conversations and he's going to be doing
Speaker 4: these things right, Like, is there a transition for these
Speaker 4: people who have been there for so long, put so
Speaker 4: much blood, sweat and tears in where yeah, they could
Speaker 4: go and compete on an All Stars or a flagship,
Speaker 4: or they could be behind the scenes and they're the executives.
Speaker 4: I know it's a no no because it's like once
Speaker 4: you're behind the scenes, you can't go in because then
Speaker 4: you know too much and then you know this and that.
Speaker 4: But is there not room for a panel where maybe
Speaker 4: if they're not on the shows behind the scenes, they
Speaker 4: could at least meet once a quarter with Bun and
Speaker 4: Mary and MTV and be like, here's what we're thinking, guys,
Speaker 4: and this is what we think could make the show better.
Speaker 4: And they almost act like a board of executives for
Speaker 4: the challenge.
Speaker 13: That's literally how every other industry sport, like players become
Speaker 13: coaches and executives and general managers. Actors become directors and producers.
Speaker 13: The only industry that doesn't work that way is reality TV,
Speaker 13: because then it would somehow let the cat out of
Speaker 13: the bag.
Speaker 5: That it's really not that hard to do this.
Speaker 1: Stuff, and they have to pretend.
Speaker 13: They have to pretend that, like, oh, no, you guys
Speaker 13: are good at being on the show. But like the
Speaker 13: years of experience I had getting coffee that then too,
Speaker 13: coming up with what people were going to wear in
Speaker 13: an interview chair, and then who should swing from what vine?
Speaker 13: And oh what kind of car are we going to
Speaker 13: throw off that mountain? That's too much for you, Mark,
Speaker 13: I don't think you'd be good at helping with that.
Speaker 4: Well, some of those are like what Mark said, Like Mark,
Speaker 4: and a lot of people come from physical backgrounds, whether
Speaker 4: you played sports or not.
Speaker 5: Do we really want the theater kids.
Speaker 4: Being like, yeah, you know, I think this is safe
Speaker 4: if they jump from that to that because they thought
Speaker 4: it up and wrote it down in like their diary
Speaker 4: in high school.
Speaker 12: One of the things that I noticed is, for instance,
Speaker 12: like the elimination.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you've seen this.
Speaker 12: But when Derek and Hirasia were doing the pegs, yes,
Speaker 12: and they stopped them before the thing and they said
Speaker 12: to Derek and Rosso, guys, the pegs are gonna fall out.
Speaker 12: Just ignore that and keep going once you have it in,
Speaker 12: if it falls it It's like but to me, it's like,
Speaker 12: why is it even an option that the pegs are
Speaker 12: fucking gonna fall out? If that's gonna be in the
Speaker 12: pre production it no drill a hole so they stick
Speaker 12: through like some just small stuff like that.
Speaker 8: I'm like, why leave it to that?
Speaker 12: Now the audience sees this, it's a big fucking huge
Speaker 12: deal online that did Hirasso get screwed? Tod Derek cheat
Speaker 12: did this? It's like simple is that. It's like those
Speaker 12: kind of like eliminations or those kind of choices that
Speaker 12: they make in terms of production, to me is so
Speaker 12: simple to fix. And what Pauli was saying, I would
Speaker 12: love to craft some of these eliminations or some of
Speaker 12: these challenges, but there's such a hard line between cast
Speaker 12: and production. It's almost impossible because, like Scott said, they
Speaker 12: don't want to cross that line because they like to
Speaker 12: have one hundred percent of the power, and I think
Speaker 12: one hundred percent of the reward for it for doing
Speaker 12: the show. So it is what it is. I mean,
Speaker 12: I'm lucky I got all stars off the ground. To
Speaker 12: be honest, they would rather.
Speaker 13: And I'm not even talking about present company included, they
Speaker 13: would rather just send someone a check and be like
Speaker 13: thanks for the idea. We'd rather you do absolutely nothing
Speaker 13: than be like, hey, come out here and like just
Speaker 13: approve everything, make sure everything's good. I'm just not how
Speaker 13: about you try the elimination. Let's see what a two
Speaker 13: hundred and thirty pound challenger who's doing this instead of no,
Speaker 13: we'll have like an intern try it. And then when
Speaker 13: Corey does it, well, he is a lot faster than Josh.
Speaker 13: We probably should have had someone else do that.
Speaker 5: Or like they're like, we we test all of these daily.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, you test it for fun, as if
Speaker 4: you're at like a birthday party.
Speaker 5: We're doing it full speed, competing for money.
Speaker 4: Two different It's like it's difference between touch football and
Speaker 4: tackle football in the NFL, almost like it's that night
Speaker 4: and day. And it's also just so crazy to me that,
Speaker 4: like I think they just don't want to see the
Speaker 4: gaps of inefficiencies because I know that the talent coordinators
Speaker 4: don't talk to the lighting coordinators, who don't talk to
Speaker 4: the sound coordinators. And you would think that everybody would
Speaker 4: be on the same page to be like, all right, guys,
Speaker 4: so is sound and lighting ready?
Speaker 5: Are the cameras ready? Okay? Great? Now we could bring
Speaker 5: the cast in to get this going right away.
Speaker 4: But what happens is the talent coordinator gets told we
Speaker 4: need the cast there at six am, and fucking lighting
Speaker 4: and sounding and video haven't even coordinated yet whether.
Speaker 5: They're fucking set up.
Speaker 1: So it's like standing.
Speaker 4: So then we're standing around for four hours whe our
Speaker 4: dicks in our hands or you know, tits in our hands.
Speaker 4: And and I don't think they want us to see that,
Speaker 4: because I mean, Mark's a smart guy, Adam smart guy,
Speaker 4: Avery smart girl, Scott smart guy. I'm not that smart
Speaker 4: Davis over here keeping a chill like it wouldn't be
Speaker 4: too hard to be like, all right, guys, what if
Speaker 4: we had one line of communication for everybody to only
Speaker 4: communicate how far away you are from being ready to roll?
Speaker 12: We've never we've never and you guys know this, you'd
Speaker 12: never roll no challenge without waiting at least an hour
Speaker 12: and a half two hours.
Speaker 5: Really, ever, don't you guys hurry up and wait? Making
Speaker 5: you hurry up and wait?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 13: Never, the best is the best, is right were we
Speaker 13: We got in this room and we were recording with
Speaker 13: he remembers.
Speaker 11: Radio is almost live all the time. Yeah, it's different
Speaker 11: live versus like I lived in Hollywood and work for
Speaker 11: Doctor Phil for a while and that was like a
Speaker 11: hurry up and wait scenario and like the same kind
Speaker 11: of thing where it's like you wait for someone's coffee
Speaker 11: to come. They're not starting to think at their coffee
Speaker 11: and so instead waiting on a guest coming from Mancho Cucamonga.
Speaker 11: There take it forever there's traffic on the five. It's
Speaker 11: this like whole day shoot for a forty five minute production,
Speaker 11: which is unbelievable.
Speaker 5: With here, it's like.
Speaker 11: Bloom boom bom boom bom boom boom boom boom, Like
Speaker 11: holy shit, how much do we do today? It just
Speaker 11: goes so much faster and radio versus television.
Speaker 4: But it's also like they come from HIM to be
Speaker 4: like I came from CBS where every day you knew
Speaker 4: when the when the Huahe competition was, when the Veto
Speaker 4: competition was and exactly what part of the day it
Speaker 4: was happening and when it was going to end, and
Speaker 4: it was ran so efficiently.
Speaker 13: It's like the curtain opens up, you're lined about the door,
Speaker 13: you go out, big energy, you do the competition, you
Speaker 13: come back in, you wait, and it was just and
Speaker 13: everything was just boom boom boom boom boom. Now, granted
Speaker 13: they're honest, but you're also shooting live to tape. Some
Speaker 13: of it's airing actually live. Other episodes are being cut
Speaker 13: and aired three days later. So you be you can't
Speaker 13: be that. You can't be you can't be inefficient.
Speaker 4: We have the live feeds going NonStop and we have
Speaker 4: three episodes a week being edited in real time based
Speaker 4: off of what is being seen and shown.
Speaker 14: We could create some live feeds and we had a
Speaker 14: road rules that we almost did live. And then I
Speaker 14: feel like there's a lot of people that want to
Speaker 14: watch more stuff afterwards, like why don't like make the
Speaker 14: show for like make the show right, Yeah, but then
Speaker 14: why not show the entire U Have you.
Speaker 13: Ever followed the Big Brother Twitter their rabbit like they
Speaker 13: will be like they'll be like, did you see when
Speaker 13: she walked out of the room? The way he kind
Speaker 13: of looked at her. That was a microaggression. He's racist.
Speaker 13: Let's get him found in real estate relationship, not even
Speaker 13: to get off the ground. And we've been like, do
Speaker 13: you see the way Adam stares at Avery ass like
Speaker 13: he's totally a predator dude.
Speaker 9: No, No, like seriously, like there's a big brother guy.
Speaker 9: I don't even know who the guy is. I like,
Speaker 9: my wife got me watching my brother. Like I said
Speaker 9: during COVID that live tweets the whole day and I'm like,
Speaker 9: does he have people that work for him or does
Speaker 9: he stay up the entire time and do it?
Speaker 1: Like how do the people do it? Right?
Speaker 12: Our c article whatever it's called, Yeah, whatever, they are there.
Speaker 12: You know what you know it was you know when
Speaker 12: I knew we were in for it on season forty,
Speaker 12: this was like the best is the first challenge?
Speaker 8: Very no, the very.
Speaker 12: First morning when we woke up in the castle, we
Speaker 12: went down and there was granted, there's forty cast members,
Speaker 12: a lot of people. So instead of having like three
Speaker 12: instant coffee machines, right because everyone wants coffee when they
Speaker 12: wake up, they had a one espresso machine and you
Speaker 12: had to grind your own beans to fucking do your coffee.
Speaker 12: And I'm like, if you want us ready in thirty minutes,
Speaker 12: you're thinking forty people are gonna grind their own beans.
Speaker 12: Like you're instantly setting people in the worst pissed off
Speaker 12: mood ever. And I remember blowing a gas and I'm like,
Speaker 12: I'm like, how simple is again?
Speaker 8: What puzzin?
Speaker 12: They should have a cast member walk through that house
Speaker 12: a week before and be like, this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 8: We need more of this? Could you guys do that?
Speaker 12: The girls aren't gonna change with the wide open areas,
Speaker 12: which they had to fix in two days because it
Speaker 12: was girls were changing wide open in front of everyone.
Speaker 12: So like just basic stuff like that that you would
Speaker 12: think would be such an easy fix. Like the very
Speaker 12: first morning, we didn't even have eggs or any American
Speaker 12: breakfa It was all Vietnamese stuff.
Speaker 8: Everyone laughed. We're like, this is fucking bullshitting, like frog.
Speaker 9: Lea yeah, And that explains why Tony wanted.
Speaker 8: To leave Tina. Tina the first night.
Speaker 12: Tina the first night was like I'm not staying here.
Speaker 12: She's like, I am not saying get me, get me.
Speaker 12: The most top producer on the phone I'm like, I'm
Speaker 12: not staying here, and he talked her back down off
Speaker 12: the ledge. But like it was not that we're being
Speaker 12: Prima Donna's. It's just like, dude, we are talent, right right.
Speaker 12: We just want to fucking be normal. Like give us
Speaker 12: a coffee machine, give us some fucking American breakfast.
Speaker 8: You know. It's like it's very simple stuff.
Speaker 12: And I and look, if if the show was they're
Speaker 12: roughing it and we're gonna get yeah, like that's different.
Speaker 8: But when you go into this.
Speaker 5: One coffee baker.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 12: But when you go into this season forty where it's
Speaker 12: supposed to be this huge thing and like some of
Speaker 12: the things that like ten years ago were better, You're
Speaker 12: just like, man, this is this is what do they
Speaker 12: save the budget on.
Speaker 14: I know you I said it was work, but I
Speaker 14: felt like I was at a like a wellness resort.
Speaker 14: I mean All Stars is a completely different thing. So
Speaker 14: I've got to I mean we had like, but.
Speaker 5: Who has a major hand in All Stars?
Speaker 1: Well, but they also treat you better because you're older,
Speaker 1: right old?
Speaker 5: Is that yeah?
Speaker 1: Right? I think that's what it is.
Speaker 8: I mean they here's the deal.
Speaker 12: They have to be in a better house, they have
Speaker 12: to be taken care of because there's no i mean,
Speaker 12: the incentive for them to leave their families.
Speaker 8: You know, Adam has two girls.
Speaker 12: Like the incentive has to be more than just you know,
Speaker 12: I'm gonna be away for three months and hopefully I'll
Speaker 12: win a million dollars. Like, you know, some of the
Speaker 12: younger kids who don't have families yet, that's that's a like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 12: I'm doing that. But in terms of like jehan A's
Speaker 12: who have kids, you know, Adam, even Avery now being
Speaker 12: in a step mom figure. So it's like you have
Speaker 12: to make it nice. So some of these people that
Speaker 12: haven't done it in fifteen years are like, yeah, that
Speaker 12: sounds like a really good time.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go do that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's how you bring the joke back. That's how
Speaker 9: you get them involved exactly. So when Tony everybody thinks
Speaker 9: he wanted to leave, he was there with the paycheck.
Speaker 9: How what how Avery? You can speak on that, But
Speaker 9: how often does this happen for Tony?
Speaker 5: Pretty often.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of cast members that go and collect
Speaker 8: the check.
Speaker 1: I think on.
Speaker 5: They go there, it's vacation. They get it. But that's
Speaker 5: the thing. Gante that that could be regulated. But I
Speaker 5: don't understand crazy guarantees.
Speaker 10: They're like, you're guaranteed for eight weeks, like so two months.
Speaker 10: This person is guaranteed two months of money, where when
Speaker 10: I have to slave away in Okay.
Speaker 5: And that's my qualm.
Speaker 4: With people showing up out of shape who get giant guarantees,
Speaker 4: like the Veronicas and like the Anissas, it's like, you
Speaker 4: make so much money, you could fucking hire a personal
Speaker 4: trainer and a dietician in the months that you have off.
Speaker 4: You know, you're Anissa knows she's going back at least
Speaker 4: once a year. So does Veronica, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And it's like they get six figures.
Speaker 8: We're not.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about what people get, but they talk about
Speaker 5: it in terms of what it is.
Speaker 4: You can hire a personal trainer and put together a
Speaker 4: ten week program and get yourself in decent shape. Anissa
Speaker 4: looks great, now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen her, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: She looks for nomenal, She's put in a lot of work.
Speaker 4: She finally listened. But some other people it's like what
Speaker 4: are you doing? And then it's like you do have
Speaker 4: people that come back after a long time. Who look
Speaker 4: good like look at them, very good looking elderly men, Mark,
Speaker 4: very good looking out of the men, Avery, Avery, absolute
Speaker 4: smoke show.
Speaker 5: Right, that's what people want to see when people.
Speaker 8: Are Scott great leather jacket.
Speaker 13: But here's the thing, here's the thing you're about your
Speaker 13: your fitness program and everything like that.
Speaker 5: I love You're a season like.
Speaker 13: All Stars five, though I would I would play Devil's
Speaker 13: advocate and say that not necessarily the best use of
Speaker 13: your time and money. Not to say you shouldn't just
Speaker 13: be healthy regardless, but because that show was designed, as
Speaker 13: you mentioned, when it comes out to the eliminations, the dailies,
Speaker 13: the fact that coming in last didn't even penalize you
Speaker 13: at all. The people who just played a good social
Speaker 13: game and actually were less of physical threats on paper.
Speaker 13: When you look across the field, they don't look like
Speaker 13: they're going to kick your ass tomorrow. Those are the
Speaker 13: people that had the easier road to the end. Now
Speaker 13: we have our teams for the finals. I'm not saying
Speaker 13: that like some of them are a lot of them
Speaker 13: aren't in very good shape, but they didn't have to
Speaker 13: necessarily prove it to get there along the way other
Speaker 13: than Adam and Steve who had to win five eliminations.
Speaker 5: But you know, I digress, but I agree.
Speaker 9: I mean, you gotta be in some kind of shape
Speaker 9: because the first season of All Stars, the first episode
Speaker 9: when they almost drowned. I mean, I was like, we
Speaker 9: got to stop. This guy's like, I'm a huge challenge fan,
Speaker 9: but I was like getting nervous.
Speaker 13: About what they stopped was doing the tough challenges, not
Speaker 13: the like you know what I mean, they almost you know,
Speaker 13: that was so funny.
Speaker 8: I was there. It was just hilarious.
Speaker 12: But Arissa was that of Arissa like just oh my god,
Speaker 12: it was just fucking funny.
Speaker 13: No, it's great, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 13: it is the well I will say this, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 13: you know Myland is.
Speaker 4: Getting tons of views. You know, shows up, shows getting
Speaker 4: tons of views, hot people.
Speaker 12: On, you know, shows up out of shape and starts
Speaker 12: working out. The first day he gets there.
Speaker 7: Ctt yea.
Speaker 1: I will I will say that CT does not care.
Speaker 8: He gets there. Right when he gets there, it's like
Speaker 8: I'm going into boot camp. He likes.
Speaker 12: The smoking goes down, he starts working out, and You're like, oh,
Speaker 12: this is the guy's strategy. He just comes in out
Speaker 12: of shape, but then leaves like you know.
Speaker 8: Jacked up.
Speaker 9: No no, because so he went in he got beat
Speaker 9: I don't know what season was, he got beaten by
Speaker 9: j or someone or yes and the hanging thing too right,
Speaker 9: and he was like wow, dude, And he came back
Speaker 9: the next season he won it. He was still out
Speaker 9: of shape and he's like, you know what, what am
Speaker 9: I get in shape now? And he gets in shape
Speaker 9: and wins back to back and I'm like damn. But
Speaker 9: then when he shows up for battle to Arras, I'm like, CT, what.
Speaker 1: Have you been doing? Dude?
Speaker 5: Like what you are?
Speaker 1: Your your your fat CT. We don't need fat CT
Speaker 1: on TV. We need in shape. CT's like it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you go ahead.
Speaker 5: City doesn't die on the toy does remind me physically
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 13: There's been I've seen pictures of Elvis and the where
Speaker 13: I go. This guy does look like CT.
Speaker 8: CT is.
Speaker 12: Actually he's a very different animal because, believe it or not,
Speaker 12: at that weight, he's still just his agile, which is crazy.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's still just he might get out of breath.
Speaker 5: Zion Williamson, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 12: He's he's just but you know, I saw some clips
Speaker 12: earlier him really young Cete, and he was like he
Speaker 12: was so like leading man, strapping, handsome, you know, in shape, thin,
Speaker 12: Like I'm like, man that that guy compared to this guy.
Speaker 12: Two totally different people in terms of body style. But
Speaker 12: do you see him on Traders?
Speaker 1: I didn't watch Traders.
Speaker 13: He shows up to that show with a bunch of
Speaker 13: you know, housewives and survivor greats and gods and this
Speaker 13: and that and and out smarts and out you know, well, yeah,
Speaker 13: you know, two years now, a statute of limitations. But
Speaker 13: so okay, but I will okay, we'll say, but I'll
Speaker 13: say he won the hearts of literally not just everyone
Speaker 13: on the show, but you had people who had never
Speaker 13: even heard of the challenge googling who is Christopher Tamborello.
Speaker 9: And because he's a swoozer, he's very good at he
Speaker 9: can he can adapt to whoever's around him, and which
Speaker 9: makes him phenomenal. Yeah, he can talk to the women,
Speaker 9: he can, you know what I mean, Like he can
Speaker 9: do everything.
Speaker 1: And when charming, yes, like.
Speaker 5: All the clips of him, Seriously, he's extremely charming.
Speaker 14: I've never met Johnny Banana, Like all the greats of
Speaker 14: our show. I came so far before them and wasn't
Speaker 14: involved like Mark, but I've never met any of them.
Speaker 13: Face Oh yeah, oh yeah, I remember he punched Adam
Speaker 13: in the face.
Speaker 1: I don't remember David he got picked. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 15: And then last night right on the show, Yeah, first
Speaker 15: night animals on the show when he punched Adam and
Speaker 15: I was thinking that he's doing this again.
Speaker 13: This is I believe got brought in as his replacement
Speaker 13: on the season where CT got Yeah, all of.
Speaker 12: A sudden, Davis has got a big shiner on his cheek.
Speaker 12: He was like, you just punched me.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay.
Speaker 9: Now when people come up to you in public, is
Speaker 9: it weird or people awkward?
Speaker 1: What do they yell at you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: How how does it work?
Speaker 17: No?
Speaker 12: They now they I was in the Orlando airport and
Speaker 12: they come up like this. They almost whispering, hey, I know.
Speaker 12: So they'll come up like it, not like really, they're
Speaker 12: just like, hey, I know you.
Speaker 8: From da da da da da? Uh?
Speaker 12: Can I do a picture real good? And of course
Speaker 12: I'm you know me, I'm just like yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 12: I'm very loud, but like I have people come up
Speaker 12: to me like they're like nervous to like make a
Speaker 12: scene about it, which is weird to me on mine,
Speaker 12: just like come on up.
Speaker 5: Because he markets it a lot because he's very big.
Speaker 5: He's large.
Speaker 13: He gets the people notice him without even knowing who
Speaker 13: he is, and they start to try to figure out
Speaker 13: who he is. He's an athlete who is an actor.
Speaker 13: I know him from somewhere. I can't place it.
Speaker 5: People someone thought you were on the shield or something.
Speaker 13: Once there's an actor he kind of looks like but like,
Speaker 13: you know, we traveled quite a bit together and we
Speaker 13: go to what arenas swat and and he couldn't be
Speaker 13: nicer to every single person.
Speaker 5: But it's so funny because it's.
Speaker 13: Everyone from for mark, especially from age six to literally
Speaker 13: I'm not kidding, like age eighty six. Well come up
Speaker 13: to him and they have something to say and they
Speaker 13: want a photo and it's great.
Speaker 12: So there's a guy through Alanso Airport, a TSA guy
Speaker 12: that to this day still thinks I'm on the CBS
Speaker 12: show Swat yea and he gives me the royal treatment
Speaker 12: when I got to the guy, yeah, he was on
Speaker 12: the shield.
Speaker 2: Name.
Speaker 8: The actor's name is Kenny Johnson.
Speaker 1: Ye that's funny.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I've met Kenny Johnson, and Kenny Johnson has gotten
Speaker 12: me before.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I at a golf tournament.
Speaker 9: Yeah, because like I didn't know if you have any
Speaker 9: geek out stories, because there was one time I was
Speaker 9: in Austin and that's where I grew up and I'm
Speaker 9: at a bar and I'm hammered, and my buddy Forrest
Speaker 9: is like, dude, bananas is here, and I'm like, there
Speaker 9: is no way bananas is at this bar.
Speaker 1: Did we just got knowing this charity event? Like you're drunk,
Speaker 1: We're drunk. He goes he was walking in the bathroom
Speaker 1: when I was walking out. I'm gonna go find him.
Speaker 9: We're doing shots with bananas, and I mean this bar
Speaker 9: is packed. And he comes back thirty minutes He's like,
Speaker 9: I found bananas. Let's go, let's go, And so we
Speaker 9: tried to take a tray of shots to bananas with him.
Speaker 9: It was him, and I mean, I am thitherre going
Speaker 9: Johnny freaking banan.
Speaker 1: He's just like, what is this idiot doing?
Speaker 9: And he took the shot with me and I think
Speaker 9: I scared him half to death. And I don't ever
Speaker 9: want to see Johnny Banas again. But I do want
Speaker 9: to see Johnny Banas again because it was just like, man,
Speaker 9: it was I was at my worst, but I was
Speaker 9: at my best at the same time, and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: So the fact that you've never met Bananas shocks me.
Speaker 14: What I mean, Bananas, I'm gonna make him do a
Speaker 14: lunchbox here, a lunchbox shop with me.
Speaker 13: No, but that what you did, I know you feel
Speaker 13: lame about having done. That's literally what every single person does.
Speaker 13: Literally at our shows. We will be on stage during
Speaker 13: a show and someone in the middle they will ask
Speaker 13: the waitress. They'll act like they're ordering for themselves to
Speaker 13: be like, yeah, can I have six shots whatever? And
Speaker 13: then when the waitress brings it to them, they go no, no, no, bring.
Speaker 5: It to them.
Speaker 13: And then like in the middle of our show, we
Speaker 13: get interrupted with this very nice offering of whatever. And
Speaker 13: then it's kind of like, well, you know, dribble and
Speaker 13: you got to be like, I guess this is what
Speaker 13: they do on TV. So we're you know, throwing shots
Speaker 13: back whatever. But that is literally what everyone wants to
Speaker 13: do with these people is drink. It's like Steph Curry.
Speaker 12: Everyone wants to dribble with If Johnny was drinking that night,
Speaker 12: he would have been way more approachable. I will say
Speaker 12: that I've been, I've been with that, like when he's sober,
Speaker 12: really nice.
Speaker 9: We didn't it wrong, Like it's nice. I just think
Speaker 9: I came on a little strong.
Speaker 12: Well, listen, we do a charity thing every year. You
Speaker 12: guys are coming obviously, right, Paully's gonna be back and
Speaker 12: be there. We'll bring Davis. Uh where is this in Orlando?
Speaker 12: But he's he's sober. It's in December, December fifth. I'm
Speaker 12: open to me if you and trust me, it's like
Speaker 12: one hundred and fifty reality stars. It's insane.
Speaker 1: That's mine.
Speaker 12: So but like he was like you know, he was
Speaker 12: sober most of the time, and like the fans stay
Speaker 12: at the same hotel, so there's a lot of interaction.
Speaker 12: And after that whole weekend he's like, man, I can't
Speaker 12: come back to this. He's like, I just He's like,
Speaker 12: I can't deal with this. So like he just he's
Speaker 12: on another level of not being not embracing it.
Speaker 8: I guess like we do. But again, like if he's
Speaker 8: boozed up and you want to do he's like, let's,
Speaker 8: you know, party party. He's all about it.
Speaker 12: But when he's like in that kind of wants to
Speaker 12: be by himself phase, he doesn't want to be bothered.
Speaker 5: The cool one is the celebrities. Suki Gap for these.
Speaker 9: Times, I was gonna wonder what celebrities a right, dude,
Speaker 9: I watch you on the Challenge Oh my god.
Speaker 8: So yeah.
Speaker 13: Yannis Antetokompo from the Bucks, huge Challenge fan. And this
Speaker 13: is years ago. I went when I found out he
Speaker 13: was a Challenge fan. I went down to when they
Speaker 13: were playing the Wizards. I brought him this like care
Speaker 13: package of our swag and I was explaining to him
Speaker 13: who I am, and he.
Speaker 5: Goes, you know Johnny Bananas, you know, And he's like
Speaker 5: that nots coim me. These guys was Johnny Bananas.
Speaker 13: And I'm like, I'm like, you just won the MVP
Speaker 13: and you care that I know Johnny Banz And I'm like,
Speaker 13: and also my business partner in cost Derek. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 13: but he hasn't been on the show in a long time.
Speaker 13: This is like before before All Stars and everything like that.
Speaker 13: We actually just got back from Milwaukee a couple of
Speaker 13: weeks ago and there was Challenge Mania night at the
Speaker 13: Pfizer for him, and we did a bunch of stuff
Speaker 13: on the court.
Speaker 5: Paul he was there too.
Speaker 13: We did red light, green light, throwing T shirts into
Speaker 13: the crowd and things like that.
Speaker 12: So, uh, my best story ever, which is fucking awesome.
Speaker 12: First of all, just side note, the Friends cast used
Speaker 12: to watch road Rules back in the day repeats in
Speaker 12: their makeup things. So like Matthew Perry, bless his heart,
Speaker 12: he was. I met him a bunch of times. He
Speaker 12: was a big fan. But that's the Playboy Mansions already.
Speaker 12: So I'm at the bar. I'm at the bar, and
Speaker 12: this is probably late nineties. And got to remember when
Speaker 12: my road Rules first came out, they hadn't picked up
Speaker 12: the second season.
Speaker 5: Eight years ago.
Speaker 12: Yeah it's black and white. No, so they they hadn't
Speaker 12: picked up the second season yet. So they played the
Speaker 12: entire first season and then they played the entire first season.
Speaker 8: It was on for like a year and a half
Speaker 8: and like eight times a week. So I was at
Speaker 8: the bar at the Playboy.
Speaker 12: Mansion and I was getting a drink and so I
Speaker 12: just hear this voice and.
Speaker 8: I hear in the background he goes road Rules, And.
Speaker 17: I turned around and guess who it was Emlio, Jack Nicholson, No, no, well,
Speaker 17: Jeff Goldbloom remember Jeff from Jurassic Car.
Speaker 8: Wow, he goes road rule, I can imagine what's up.
Speaker 12: That was like my weirdest kind of thing. Kobe Bryant
Speaker 12: was a huge MTV fan when we did it, we
Speaker 12: he came and did a challenge with us, him and
Speaker 12: Reggie Miller. He was Kobe was a huge MTV fan. Kenny,
Speaker 12: Reggie Miller could care less. But Kobe stayed out after
Speaker 12: us signed all of our stuff. He was like because
Speaker 12: he was a kid.
Speaker 15: Then Kanye West mentioned Lana in a song. Yeah, there's
Speaker 15: a Kanye song that mentions when swept the one that well.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw his latest war.
Speaker 14: My Godana, but.
Speaker 8: I had Cyrus and be one of the videos. It's
Speaker 8: it's funny.
Speaker 1: Because it's crazy on crosses over.
Speaker 12: Well, you know that culture back then, like TRL was
Speaker 12: like the thing, right, she knows in there MTV TRL
Speaker 12: and like watching people like the Backstreet Boys and then
Speaker 12: they'd have Limp Biscuit come on and then Eminem like
Speaker 12: it was fucking just. It was a cool era. I
Speaker 12: always say I lived through a really cool era. I
Speaker 12: wish my nieces could live through that now, but it's
Speaker 12: totally different. But it's just it was really fun. It
Speaker 12: wasn't so social media driven, like we didn't have our
Speaker 12: phones all the time, so we didn't have phones half
Speaker 12: the time. But it was just such a cool era.
Speaker 12: And like I remember sitting at the Movie Awards next
Speaker 12: to what's your Name from the from the Voice Blake Shelton.
Speaker 8: Jeffani was next to me in pink hair, and she's
Speaker 8: like knows the show. Like it was just fucking cool.
Speaker 5: Did you host spring Break?
Speaker 1: Ever?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Hosted spring break? Yeah, Eric and I did.
Speaker 13: Easy Still it was big somehow, but it was easy does.
Speaker 13: That's literally his job, I believe. I don't know if
Speaker 13: it's his only job, but one of his main jobs
Speaker 13: is for I believe. It's not even just like spring
Speaker 13: break a week. There's this some town in Texas or something.
Speaker 13: It's like Galveston or Someway. I don't know where it is,
Speaker 13: but but but it's sixth spring lle. He hosts like
Speaker 13: a recurring spring break party for six weeks.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I don't know if it's just that he's
Speaker 8: South Padre, that's.
Speaker 1: What that's legit y that's a legit play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brown is like my Crappit partner, and that's.
Speaker 1: Where you get shopp by the Gartel.
Speaker 5: I used to host that.
Speaker 8: Spring break.
Speaker 12: But do you remember do you remember those like the
Speaker 12: MTV Beach House and all that stuff. Like, I'll tell
Speaker 12: you a great story that the same day that Road
Speaker 12: Rules premiered was July nineteenth, nineteen ninety five. It was
Speaker 12: the same day that they released the premiere of Clueless.
Speaker 12: So I got to go to the Clueless premiere on
Speaker 12: the beach at Malibu and it was this is when
Speaker 12: I felt like. I was like, I never felt like
Speaker 12: I still never feel like a celebrity, but I felt
Speaker 12: like cool because I went to this premiere and it
Speaker 12: was all the nine o two and oh cast, all
Speaker 12: the people from Clueless, Elisa Donovan who now is one
Speaker 12: of my best friends, from the.
Speaker 8: Worst cook Show we did.
Speaker 12: But like, I was on the beach and Jennye McCarthy
Speaker 12: was there and Chris Hardwick and I was like, man,
Speaker 12: this is just fucking cool. But they don't do stuff
Speaker 12: like that anymore, and I hate it.
Speaker 8: We do, you do, but we do. Is there a
Speaker 8: way to.
Speaker 1: Bring it back?
Speaker 5: For yeah, to bring it back where.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you're doing a great job with
Speaker 4: just these and you incorporate the comedy into it. Who's
Speaker 4: to say that we can't pitch Panama City to have
Speaker 4: Challenge Mania Live as their host of the next Person.
Speaker 8: I think it's just finding the right person that Rutchbox.
Speaker 14: Actually, we're going to be inviting fans and everybody.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 13: There's like there's a cruise that everybody's doing in November.
Speaker 8: They are doing a cruise. We are doing a reality.
Speaker 13: Cruise in January, November and January. There's one in November
Speaker 13: that's sold out, but there is one in h January.
Speaker 13: You can still get tickets to Showroomreality Cruise dot com.
Speaker 13: Mark will be on it. These guys want to be
Speaker 13: on it. They might be on its. West bergman Jordan
Speaker 13: Weisley will be there. Rachel Tina dev.
Speaker 14: This guy who looks like Brad's shaved the beard.
Speaker 5: He kind of looks like pitbull. Guys.
Speaker 13: I don't know what it is, but whenever I go
Speaker 13: to the airport with that beard, they search me pretty extensively.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if we're going to be going to the.
Speaker 12: Bok bigger and bigger, and bigger, and then I was
Speaker 12: looking at pictures online.
Speaker 1: I was talking to our promotions girl a minute ago.
Speaker 9: And she's like, oh, I watched My World San Diego
Speaker 9: and I pulled up and I'm like, look at how Brad,
Speaker 9: But oh my god, it was just so wild.
Speaker 1: And so a couple more questions before you go.
Speaker 9: So you guys earned gear when you're on the show, right,
Speaker 9: So someone sent this to me and I want to
Speaker 9: know if I'm a poser if I wear this brat.
Speaker 8: No, of course, Oh.
Speaker 5: My god, I'm jealous. You have that. They do not.
Speaker 5: They don't let us keep it anymore.
Speaker 8: That here's a never before. So when we leave, you've
Speaker 8: got to put that take back. They take back.
Speaker 12: Your uniform, your socks, your shoes, they take back everything.
Speaker 8: And it's never to be seen again. Everything who knows.
Speaker 4: Because they don't want us to put together really cool
Speaker 4: home offices.
Speaker 8: Pretty much.
Speaker 13: Further so, so last year we got Derek and ct
Speaker 13: both in the Allen and Ginter tops line, right, And
Speaker 13: this isn't one of them, but Derek, back when they
Speaker 13: did let you take your jerseys for some of his cars,
Speaker 13: he sent in two of his jerseys. So you can
Speaker 13: actually get a Derek card that has a piece of
Speaker 13: his Dirty thirty jersey where he.
Speaker 5: Came in second on it.
Speaker 13: How cool is that he wouldn't be able to do
Speaker 13: that they didn't have the jerseys, you know what I mean? So,
Speaker 13: and there might be some more challengers and this year's
Speaker 13: line of tops Allen and Ginter, who knows, who knows?
Speaker 8: I send them here. I just send them Challenge warn bandanas.
Speaker 5: There you go. I own them.
Speaker 4: And this goes back to what we were talking about earlier,
Speaker 4: because I have gone to them being like, hey, I
Speaker 4: have like companies that would give us all of the jerseys,
Speaker 4: all of the supplements. Most of the people pack half
Speaker 4: their bags with supplements. They would give every person individual
Speaker 4: supplement stacks jerseys.
Speaker 5: We'd be able to keep it.
Speaker 4: And they put up the winnings money and they're just like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: that sounds great.
Speaker 5: Fuck off.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So.
Speaker 8: You're actually the elite.
Speaker 9: I love it because I'm a die hard. Like I've
Speaker 9: watched it my whole life and I thought that was
Speaker 9: my career path. When I was in college and people
Speaker 9: are like, hey, what do you know what jobs.
Speaker 1: Are you applying for? I was like, no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be on in the.
Speaker 9: Real world, like I'm not applying for jobs, like that's
Speaker 9: not my life, Like I'm not gonna have a real job,
Speaker 9: like I'm gonna be on TV.
Speaker 1: But someone gave this to me. I thought I was
Speaker 1: a poser.
Speaker 9: So now Avery and Adam, you guys meet and you
Speaker 9: have a relationship on the show, Pauli, you've been in
Speaker 9: this situation.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 9: I don't remember if you ever fell in love on
Speaker 9: the challenge or not, but how do you know that
Speaker 9: this is a real relationship? Like it's a TV show.
Speaker 9: None of these relationships work, did.
Speaker 14: We didn't get to have our relationship on four until
Speaker 14: we came back and just kind of like kept on,
Speaker 14: like getting to know each other deeper and deeper, so
Speaker 14: our relationship happened.
Speaker 10: Wouldn't leave me alone, wouldn't leave me alone, always checking
Speaker 10: up on me, making sure I'm all right in Arizona,
Speaker 10: and I'm like I'm fine, man. Yeah, I just like
Speaker 10: I was like, what is with this guy? And then
Speaker 10: I just yeah, And then all of a sudden, yeah, and.
Speaker 14: I left and I was like, hey, are you're gonna
Speaker 14: be all right without me?
Speaker 5: She's like, you can barely tell your shoes without me?
Speaker 5: I put your son screen on for you. What do
Speaker 5: you am?
Speaker 14: I gonna be okay, yeah, and no, It's just it
Speaker 14: was just magical, like it just develops so like.
Speaker 10: What it was one of your daughters, one of his
Speaker 10: youngest daughter, we were talking on the phone one day
Speaker 10: and she stole the phone and then she was like,
Speaker 10: took me aside, and she's like, do you want to
Speaker 10: know a secret? And I'm like, well, yeah, like he
Speaker 10: doesn't want to know a secret. And then she was like, Okay,
Speaker 10: my dad has a crush on No.
Speaker 9: I said, like most people have a crush on me, honey, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: I'm just because I always wondering.
Speaker 1: I watch it and it's like, you know, hooking up
Speaker 1: with Olivia.
Speaker 9: Olivia and I'm like, there's no way that's gonna last.
Speaker 9: And it's like they're still dating.
Speaker 5: It's like, what how she got his name tattooed on
Speaker 5: the back of her neck.
Speaker 10: Yeah, don't worry, I don't have any tattoos with Adam's,
Speaker 10: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean?
Speaker 12: Like I just always think, I think, I think, I
Speaker 12: will say that I think there was a lot more
Speaker 12: show mances back in the day because it was so
Speaker 12: party atmosphere, so you'd hook up and when you went
Speaker 12: back and kind of fizzle. But I guess not that
Speaker 12: the the the people have evolved and got more mature.
Speaker 12: But I mean, Adam, you know, isn't twenty one anymore
Speaker 12: and Avery isn't twenty one anymore. I hope right, No,
Speaker 12: But I'm saying I think it's uh. I think it's
Speaker 12: a different time now because I want to say there
Speaker 12: was even more hook up so like I'm big brother
Speaker 12: back in the day than there is now. I think
Speaker 12: people are more cognizant to it because there's so many
Speaker 12: so much social media and.
Speaker 13: Michelle are going to deb and Michelle are going actually
Speaker 13: everything you just said. I do feel like now people
Speaker 13: know the stigma, so they know like, oh, you know,
Speaker 13: relationship built on TV, how long is this gonna last?
Speaker 13: And they're sort of like, if you're gonna enter into it,
Speaker 13: you got to give it at least eight months just
Speaker 13: to prove everybody wrong. And I think to go a
Speaker 13: step further with them, you know, they had the Johnny
Speaker 13: Bananas of the world, like from Jump Street telling them, oh,
Speaker 13: you know, he's just in it for the game. You
Speaker 13: guys aren't a real couple. And I do think that
Speaker 13: did kind of you know, fuel them to give each
Speaker 13: other their best and they're still together very hard.
Speaker 5: I mean it was it wasn't even that.
Speaker 4: It was just what you find out about challengers is
Speaker 4: a lot of the things they say publicly is projection.
Speaker 4: Most of them have to go to therapy and we're
Speaker 4: being honest, and that's totally fine. But when you know,
Speaker 4: like when Kara and I first got together and Van's
Speaker 4: and they're being like he's usually forgive, he's usually forgeting.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, dude, cause that's what you fucking do,
Speaker 4: Like you're how old you need a young chick to
Speaker 4: hook up with? Like he put a picture of him
Speaker 4: and Natalie in US Weekly, like that was his publicist
Speaker 4: that did it. He's like, we're gonna set up up
Speaker 4: this date where we're getting coffee, so we're going to
Speaker 4: take a picture and I'm gonna put it in there.
Speaker 4: So he was just a little bit upset that I
Speaker 4: was actually, you know, dating somebody from The Bachelor at
Speaker 4: the time, and my hook cup was actually newsworthy, you know,
Speaker 4: when me and Carr got together. So I think he
Speaker 4: just wanted a little bit of, like I told you
Speaker 4: some thing if anything did happen. I mean, but Johnny
Speaker 4: and I were on good terms now, but I do
Speaker 4: got to give him a.
Speaker 5: Little ships on his defense.
Speaker 9: But anyway, Yeah, and how often like outside of the show,
Speaker 9: like the anger feelings on the show, they carry over
Speaker 9: to real life.
Speaker 12: I had this conversation with him at the hotel just now,
Speaker 12: I said, I said, it's a shame. It's a shame
Speaker 12: when people really extend the enemy hatred months after the show.
Speaker 12: Because it is a TV show, right, We're all there's
Speaker 12: only one winner usually or two winners.
Speaker 8: So he was talking about him and Frank.
Speaker 5: Miserable.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but but but he's like, Adam's like, you know,
Speaker 12: I've I've you know, I've now grown to move beyond
Speaker 12: being an enemy. I could you could probably hang out
Speaker 12: with Frank now and have a great time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but now you guys have reasons.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 13: Back in the day, it used to be that, especially
Speaker 13: you and Frank, people have like completely different lives and
Speaker 13: careers that if you went on All Stars five decided
Speaker 13: you hate each other, there's really no reason for you
Speaker 13: guys to ever interact unless you come to one of
Speaker 13: these or you see each other on the touring circuit
Speaker 13: or you go and do another season together. So it
Speaker 13: is easy to get swept up in the oh, yeah
Speaker 13: I should hate this guy, but at all if you
Speaker 13: don't get to see each other. But the fact that
Speaker 13: we do so many of these and you know, unless
Speaker 13: people request, hey I don't want to do one with
Speaker 13: Paulie or whatever, like you know, you do kind of know, Hey,
Speaker 13: I might see this guy in the future. He might
Speaker 13: you know what I mean, maybe we men fences a
Speaker 13: little sooner. Maybe we don't put things out there on
Speaker 13: social media that we can't you know, ask for forgiveness
Speaker 13: for later, you know.
Speaker 10: So I think a lot of people don't realize too
Speaker 10: like when we film these shows, like they're a year past,
Speaker 10: like like by by the time that they're aired, that's it.
Speaker 8: That's it last year, like that week.
Speaker 1: It's so weird.
Speaker 10: Yeah, So for me, I'm like, Okay, it's been a year,
Speaker 10: Like what can I really like Pauli? We have nothing
Speaker 10: against each other, but like let's say Polly pissed me off,
Speaker 10: Like is it really that serious that in a year?
Speaker 10: Like did he really take my pillow one night? And
Speaker 10: I'm like, hate you Ballan? Would you die? Like you know,
Speaker 10: and like really like hold on to that for like
Speaker 10: a year that like sometimes like I know that we
Speaker 10: have Like really there's our castmates that have real serious
Speaker 10: problems with each other, totally different, you know, like yay,
Speaker 10: you personally don't like this person.
Speaker 8: Get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: I understand why no one likes Laurel.
Speaker 5: Something like gameplay related.
Speaker 10: It's like it's a game at the end of the day,
Speaker 10: Like it's a game, Like we're playing a game, you know.
Speaker 12: Hold a grudge, Amanda, Johnny, Yeah, I love Johnny's one
Speaker 12: of my best friends. But if that if you've crossed
Speaker 12: him in his mind and somewhere in the past, he
Speaker 12: will hold that to his.
Speaker 5: Crave even if he gets you back.
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, yeah, He's allowed to cross people, but once
Speaker 9: someone crosses him, it's like, oh, you just scorched the earth.
Speaker 1: I'll there you. But he is the king of crossing,
Speaker 1: like he crosses all the time and that's why people
Speaker 1: love him. Tho, right, I mean, I mean, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you guys so.
Speaker 9: Much for coming in. And hey, if you guys are anywhere,
Speaker 9: Challenge Many Alive. May fourth in New York, May twenty
Speaker 9: fifth in Chicago, June seventh, in Saint Louis, June twenty eighth,
Speaker 9: in Pittsburgh, June thirteenth or July thirteenth in Atlanta, September
Speaker 9: seventh in Phoenix, and in July thirteenth, Bananas will be
Speaker 9: in Atlanta.
Speaker 13: And I just want to tell you also three of
Speaker 13: those we're also thrown out the first pitch with the
Speaker 13: major League baseball team. So in Saint Louis, we're doing
Speaker 13: the Cardinals when they played the Dodgers, in Pittsburgh when
Speaker 13: the Pirates play the Mets, and then in Phoenix we
Speaker 13: did it last year. Mark threw it out in Phoenix. Toy,
Speaker 13: He's going to be throwing out the first pitch when
Speaker 13: they play the Red Sox. If you want to do
Speaker 13: out of cool stuff like that with the sports. I
Speaker 13: will also be.
Speaker 12: Doing batting practice before she throws the first pitch.
Speaker 5: He also, dude, he.
Speaker 13: Literally almost crushed one out of the park last September.
Speaker 8: That would be epic. I will get it done this
Speaker 8: this time.
Speaker 5: But thank you guys for having us, and thanks for
Speaker 5: the plugs.
Speaker 8: So much, so much fun.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 1: So this is guy Beaty.
Speaker 4: Don't listen to Lunchbucks because he gets my name wrong
Speaker 4: every time.
Speaker 7: But you know what, I'm listening to The Bobby Bone Show.
Speaker 5: Come on, let's buck.
Speaker 13: Y'all have too much fun.
Speaker 5: I Love by bother's family