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Speaker 2: happy New Year. New Year's Eve brings us a reaction
Speaker 2: to last night's Monday night football game, which was entertaining
Speaker 2: and of course we had a notable injury to a
Speaker 2: very notable figure for the defending NFC champion San Francisco
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. And it gives us football today or tonight,
Speaker 2: as we have the first in the second round quarterfinals
Speaker 2: of the College football Playoff. And I think it's actually
Speaker 2: the perfect game, so we get a lot to get
Speaker 2: to the first. Dan. This is this is always a
Speaker 2: good time in the morning when you wake up to go, hey,
Speaker 2: let's let's look back at last night's Monday night football game.
Speaker 2: Gave us a little bit. Everything got a hook and ladder,
Speaker 2: which was not you know, is a great trick play
Speaker 2: for a touchdown in the first half, exciting ending, and
Speaker 2: then you have a brock Party injury. Like, the biggest
Speaker 2: takeaway in your mind is what from that game?
Speaker 3: Well, it's actually brock Party's injury.
Speaker 4: But to your point of the Lions, not only are
Speaker 4: the Lions saying, yeah, we're gonna play our guys in
Speaker 4: what is a meaningless game for us, what really matters
Speaker 4: is Week eighteen. Not only are we gonna do that,
Speaker 4: We're gonna run a trick play that I don't know
Speaker 4: if they've used other times this season. I know they've
Speaker 4: done a bunch of other stuff, but let's throw that
Speaker 4: one on tape from Minnesota to worry about. They just
Speaker 4: don't let up, And that's the crazy thing. They could
Speaker 4: have came out there with a vanilla playbook, had Jamier
Speaker 4: Gibbs maybe play a quarter, but no, they went full
Speaker 4: throttle the rest of the way.
Speaker 3: Almost lost the game.
Speaker 4: But the biggest takeaway is the brock Party injury, depending
Speaker 4: on the severity of it, which we don't know right now,
Speaker 4: because lost in all of this is that, well, we
Speaker 4: thought that the Lions should pack it in last night
Speaker 4: and not do anything.
Speaker 3: Maybe it should have been brock Party.
Speaker 4: Maybe Brock Party should have just set these final two
Speaker 4: games for San Francisco just because of his contract situation
Speaker 4: and what could be ahead for him in that regard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't know, and uh it if you
Speaker 2: look online, right, but the fear obviously is in the
Speaker 2: throwing elbow, right, which was or throwing potential throwing shoulder.
Speaker 2: And when you have a guy who they don't have
Speaker 2: to extend him at the end of this year, right
Speaker 2: he has, he's under contract for another year, they don't
Speaker 2: have to. But when you think of what's out there,
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins out there, right, uh, and then you have
Speaker 2: Sam Donald could be will be potentially out there. Cousins
Speaker 2: obviously played for Kyle Shanahan in Washington and uh Sam
Speaker 2: Darld started a couple of games last year replacing Brock
Speaker 2: Purty due to injury. Like this, this completely changes in
Speaker 2: many ways the perception of what's going to happen this
Speaker 2: upcoming off season for Party. I mean, look, I don't
Speaker 2: think he bought all of those Toyota Tacoma TRD trucks,
Speaker 2: but probably not, probably not, But if he did, like
Speaker 2: we're talking minimum fifty times, I think eight to ten
Speaker 2: offensive linemen and I don't know if he can't back
Speaker 2: by the backup. So if it's ten, like you're going
Speaker 2: to drop five hundred grand when you make less than
Speaker 2: a million, there's that thought like he is expecting a payday.
Speaker 2: He has been told there's a payday coming, and now
Speaker 2: what do you do if you're John Lynch and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't do that, would do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: What even complicates things now even more is if this
Speaker 4: is significant and again we don't know.
Speaker 2: Which don't today It's really really important because I don't
Speaker 2: want anybody to think if you woke up, you just
Speaker 2: turned on that we know it's a significant injury. We
Speaker 2: have no idea got him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's all right.
Speaker 4: But I think that we didn't question brock Perty's health
Speaker 4: considering he came back from the injury and didn't miss
Speaker 4: a regular season game the next year from it when
Speaker 4: he was hurt against the Philadelphia Eagles a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago. So now the whole debate about Purdy has
Speaker 4: been is Purty good enough? Is it Purdy or is
Speaker 4: it all the weapons around him? Riggy Piersaw last night
Speaker 4: had a great night. You know, stat wise, the Niners
Speaker 4: couldn't get stops on defense, which is probably their biggest problem.
Speaker 4: Perty did have some bad turnovers. There is the knock
Speaker 4: on him of are you trying to do too much?
Speaker 4: But ultimately, Doug, now all of a sudden injury prone
Speaker 4: or significant injury with the elbow comes into the equation
Speaker 4: comes into the negotiation, and I think that complicates things
Speaker 4: even more because if it is significant, now it's your
Speaker 4: second significant elbow injury early on in your career, and
Speaker 4: who knows how that goes down the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have no idea. You know, it could be
Speaker 2: a nerve in there, which makes it feel like it's
Speaker 2: worse than it is. But you're right once you start
Speaker 2: to say like one injury, like okay, it's just an injury,
Speaker 2: when it's the second one, now, well it's chronic. And
Speaker 2: the crazy part was the first three drives. He had
Speaker 2: three drives in a row where he was nine of nine,
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty one yards. I saw it. I
Speaker 2: mean he was killing it. Really Now. I know Detroit's
Speaker 2: defense wasn't great to begin with, and now being depleted
Speaker 2: by some injuries is even worse. But the interesting part
Speaker 2: is how brock Purty had had a very average year
Speaker 2: because of all of the in many ways, all of
Speaker 2: the injuries of the guys surrounding him. And look, I
Speaker 2: don't think he's nearly at the level of those elite quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and I don't think he should be compensated as such.
Speaker 2: But again, I don't evaluate quarterbacks for living. I'm not
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan, I'm not John Lynch. To their team, they
Speaker 2: know it better than we do. And last night was
Speaker 2: one of the first nights all year when she looking,
Speaker 2: You're like, whoa while, brock Purty looking looks a little different,
Speaker 2: little better tonight than he has previously. And then he
Speaker 2: goes and gets hurt and again, might be something minor,
Speaker 2: might be just a nerve inflammation which makes you arm
Speaker 2: feel like it's on fire, and structurally it's fine, but
Speaker 2: you're you're totally right, Dan. Anybody who has a brain
Speaker 2: sits there and goes like, wait, wait, he had a
Speaker 2: major surgery on it previously, and now he has to
Speaker 2: leave a game, a close game because it feeling like
Speaker 2: it's on fire, Like what else can go wrong? And
Speaker 2: oh yet it's not like it's not an arm he's
Speaker 2: not going to use. It was his left arm. Like,
Speaker 2: all right, well, you know it's gonna be painful, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't need that one. It's the one elbow, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the two elbows that he actually needs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it completely messes up the equation. They didn't have
Speaker 4: a running game last night. They were willing to get
Speaker 4: into a shootout with the Detroit Lions. And we've looked
Speaker 4: at the forty nine ers over the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: whether it be Christian McCaffrey, whether it be Jordan Mason
Speaker 4: when he was feeling in earlier of the season, or
Speaker 4: Elijah Mitchell other times, and even before that where he mostered,
Speaker 4: it's been running, running, running, and last night that wasn't
Speaker 4: the case. They aired it out. Party had three hundred
Speaker 4: and seventy seven yards. All those who are anti Party
Speaker 4: and don't pay Party will just point to the two
Speaker 4: interceptions because they didn't look good air mailing one.
Speaker 3: In the middle of the field. You could always point
Speaker 3: to that stuff.
Speaker 4: But as he said, he started out nine to nine
Speaker 4: through for almost four hundred yards in the game that
Speaker 4: had what ten touchdowns and no punts.
Speaker 3: I think, like it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I mean, he put on a show last night, but
Speaker 4: then there's still questions, and now the injury stuff complicates things.
Speaker 2: And then the big question is what Dan Campbell did
Speaker 2: playing all his starters. Here's Campbell, head coach of the
Speaker 2: still first place Detroit Lions, when he was asked if
Speaker 2: he considered resting his starters for last night's game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was on my mind, you know. I mean
Speaker 5: I thought a lot about it. You know, I thought
Speaker 5: about it leading up to the game. I thought about
Speaker 5: it last night. I told the staff. But I ended
Speaker 5: up settling on the right thing to do was play
Speaker 5: these guys, and and because we owed it to the team,
Speaker 5: you know, and and it was just one of those
Speaker 5: those positions we were in. It's just hard to say
Speaker 5: who you're going to sit, and and it's not fair
Speaker 5: to ask guys to play that haven't been prepared to play.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Those answers make no sense, by the way. I do
Speaker 2: understand the hey, you can't, you can't sit everybody, but
Speaker 2: the how could you not be? You had an extra
Speaker 2: data prep. You knew this was a possibility, right, you
Speaker 2: knew it was a possibility. I don't understand that answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess what he's saying is, look, had Minnesota lost,
Speaker 2: but had Minnesota lost they you know, and they won.
Speaker 2: Be in the same situation, still have to win the
Speaker 2: game on Sunday.
Speaker 4: I also don't want to sound callous, but isn't that
Speaker 4: what backups are for?
Speaker 3: I mean, like, there's.
Speaker 2: Don't we always don't you always tell your guys you
Speaker 2: stay ready?
Speaker 3: They ready?
Speaker 2: They ready? He's not really ready. It's not fair to him.
Speaker 2: What is he talking about? Look, I like Dan Campbell,
Speaker 2: I can just tell you this all gas and no
Speaker 2: breaks thing. It sounds really, really good. I can tell
Speaker 2: you from personal experience, it is an atrocious idea. I
Speaker 2: don't care what you do if you lose your start.
Speaker 2: Your starters are your starters for a reason. What are
Speaker 2: you doing? You did not have to play last night's
Speaker 2: game to win. And like, I'm a crazy competitive person.
Speaker 2: My team is in a is in a losing streak.
Speaker 2: We've had a gigantic injury on our team, okay, and
Speaker 2: it's one of those like we're in that phase to
Speaker 2: where like, if it can go wrong, it goes wrong.
Speaker 2: That's just kind of where it goes and you got
Speaker 2: to turn around and fix it. Okay, but everyone knows
Speaker 2: that your likelihood of success is made even greater in
Speaker 2: the playoffs when you have healthy players. Nothing matters. Unless
Speaker 2: you have healthy players, it's so hard to do with backups.
Speaker 2: And there's what was the win in winning last night,
Speaker 2: especially now that you got a short week of prep
Speaker 2: to go play the Minnesota Vikings. How does that make
Speaker 2: any sense? And his need to go for it right
Speaker 2: like it's gotten a beaten this year. Heck, last year
Speaker 2: there was the decisions on win to go for it,
Speaker 2: not to go for it against the Niners in the
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game, which in the first half he didn't.
Speaker 2: In the second half he did, and it backfired on
Speaker 2: him and they gave away a lead. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying he's not a tremendous coach, but that particular decision
Speaker 2: and his defense of the decision really didn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what also doesn't make sense. This is
Speaker 4: Jared Goff after the win last night.
Speaker 6: I think that's the only way we know, you know,
Speaker 6: it's just go and find a way to win. And
Speaker 6: you know, the team we were playing, you know, in
Speaker 6: San Francisco, like this is what ended our season last year,
Speaker 6: And there was a lot of guys on this team
Speaker 6: that were there last year that you know, wanted to
Speaker 6: get one back on them, even though you know, in
Speaker 6: a lot of ways it was meaningless for them and
Speaker 6: meaningless for us. But they were prideful out there too.
Speaker 6: They were trying to you know, beat us as well,
Speaker 6: and it was a fun game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I get it. It's like, we just we
Speaker 2: lost the Niners last year in the playoffs. We want
Speaker 2: to put the steak in. They're already not in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They're already not in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: The part that I don't get is how in the
Speaker 4: world could that be payback Like last year was for
Speaker 4: a trip to the Super Bowl. This year meant nothing
Speaker 4: to either side. It's actually one of the glaring things
Speaker 4: about Nick Sirianni. For all of the things that we
Speaker 4: will point out and the dumb stuff that the Eagles
Speaker 4: head coach does, there may have been nothing worse than
Speaker 4: taunting Chiefs fans after beating them in Kansas City when
Speaker 4: the Chiefs beat them in the Super Bowl the prior year. Like,
Speaker 4: it wasn't it wasn't payback, It wasn't revenge. I don't
Speaker 4: know how you could get revenge from losing a Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: except if you played them in the Super Bowl the
Speaker 4: next year. This didn't even less impact than that Chiefs
Speaker 4: Eagles get Doug there was. It meant nothing to neither
Speaker 4: to both sides and to sit there and say like
Speaker 4: they're prideful, like that's garbage. Nobody last night thought, yeah,
Speaker 4: revenge note at all.
Speaker 2: There wasn't even there wasn't a single Lions fan and
Speaker 2: you and I work with Christophett who's the Lions. A
Speaker 2: single Lions fan on the on the planet, on the planet,
Speaker 2: who's like, hey, or even for last year, huh? You
Speaker 2: like that, buddy? You like that? Like even like not one, no, nobody,
Speaker 2: nobody thinks that. And and you know, I love the
Speaker 2: idea of trying to win every day, trying to win
Speaker 2: every game. That were competitive people. You can the backups
Speaker 2: can compete as well, because you know what you're playing
Speaker 2: for something more important than a Monday night football game
Speaker 2: in Week seventeen of an NFL season. You're playing for
Speaker 2: a super Bowl, to win a super Bowl with the
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. That's the only thing that matters is the
Speaker 2: super Bowl with the Detroit Lions. And and and nothing
Speaker 2: that was done last It was a fun game, Don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong. Like, we've had a lot of like
Speaker 2: drudgery here end of the season with some of these games.
Speaker 2: Guys in the limpited the fun game forty thirty four
Speaker 2: points score trick plays awesome, But I mean for a
Speaker 2: team that's already been depleted, already lost, you know, lost
Speaker 2: a running back, lost, the middle linebacker, lost, some ancillary
Speaker 2: pieces like what are you doing? What what are you
Speaker 2: possibly doing? Hey, payback? Some of these guys want to
Speaker 2: pay back. We want to pay back. It's not payback,
Speaker 2: not payback? Uh, Jay ste you you you want to
Speaker 2: propose a bit? Is that what you want to do?
Speaker 7: Happy New Year's Eve, a gentleman I put together.
Speaker 2: Isn't it a Happy New Year's Eve? Day?
Speaker 7: Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying it's a weird sentence. But New
Speaker 2: Year's Eve, I mean, I guess, I guess it can
Speaker 2: be used. It depends on the use of the word eve.
Speaker 2: Eve can be day before, but it's really night before,
Speaker 2: is it not.
Speaker 7: Yeah? No, I'll definitely I think right on that one.
Speaker 8: I put together a gift for listeners as we look
Speaker 8: back on twenty twenty four. I wanted to play my
Speaker 8: personal favorite soundbites from the year and by all means,
Speaker 8: Doug Dan listeners, if you have any contribution, let us know.
Speaker 8: But I want to play at the end of each
Speaker 8: segment today, just something that was memorable, something that's stuck
Speaker 8: out from twenty twenty four in sports, And I want
Speaker 8: to start with somebody that Doug actually either attended high
Speaker 8: school with or went to the same high school as test.
Speaker 2: And high school and go to ten high school with.
Speaker 2: He was a freshman, I was a senior.
Speaker 8: Deshaun Foster gets the job at UCLA and he shows
Speaker 8: up at Big Ten media days and he just wows
Speaker 8: the world with charisma.
Speaker 9: UCLA and a Big Ten where a school that's won
Speaker 9: what one hundred and twenty three championship. So this fits
Speaker 9: as being right in this conference football wise, which is excited.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: I'm sure you guys don't know too much about UCLA
Speaker 9: but our football program, but we're in LA, it's us
Speaker 9: in USC We's uh.
Speaker 2: The crazy part was for people who don't know. We
Speaker 2: actually had Deshaun on the Doug Gottlieb Show like a
Speaker 2: half hour after that happened, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: well what happened was I didn't know if us was
Speaker 2: to make a statement answer the question. He was great
Speaker 2: about it, but yeah, that was that. That wasn't great.
Speaker 7: Well they turned it into it. I want to say
Speaker 7: he turned it in the thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like in LA Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 8: By the way, I have veto put this together so
Speaker 8: I can'tnot play what I was supposed to do right
Speaker 8: before we played the Shan Foster. Yeah, is this is
Speaker 8: the intro for the for the bit today they said.
Speaker 7: What they said?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 8: So you'll be hearing more sound throughout the show listeners.
Speaker 8: I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a really good veto, did a really good job.
Speaker 2: What what did you choke? Did you get too excited
Speaker 2: about playing the sound? What happened?
Speaker 7: Oh you know, I'm I'm not a host by trade.
Speaker 2: No you are. You're the FM morning morning radio host.
Speaker 2: We we've we've we've established that that you love to
Speaker 2: do the well not let don't call it a throwback,
Speaker 2: because you really want to do what was hot on
Speaker 2: the Billboard top charts in twenty fifteen. Right, that's we've
Speaker 2: established that. Don't don't don't duck and dodge that thing.
Speaker 2: You got too excited because the clip is way too funny.
Speaker 2: Everybody does it that clip is too funny. Can you
Speaker 2: can't hear it one more time? I got to hear
Speaker 2: that again. We're we're in l A with USC.
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, they said, what.
Speaker 2: Oh so good? So good.
Speaker 9: We're a school that's won what one hundred and twenty
Speaker 9: three championships? So this fits us being right in this
Speaker 9: conference football wise, which is excited.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: I'm sure you guys don't know too much about UCLA
Speaker 9: but our football program.
Speaker 3: But we're in LA.
Speaker 9: It's us in USC.
Speaker 10: We wela, it's us in USC.
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Speaker 2: somebody who has negotiated contract with quarterbacks about the brock
Speaker 2: Party situation after his injury last night.
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Happy New Year to you, Dan
Speaker 2: Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Doug Gottlieb, Dan Buyer
Speaker 2: alongside so some interesting going ons last night in the
Speaker 2: Nation Football League with the Detroit Lione surviving the San
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nineers. Monday Night football brock pretty though it
Speaker 2: went down with some form of elbow injury. We think
Speaker 2: it's an elbow injury. We don't really really know. We
Speaker 2: don't know the sever have it or anything of it,
Speaker 2: only with reports of that his arm was on fire
Speaker 2: and leaving many to speculate more nerve than anything else.
Speaker 2: But what that means, We simply don't know a guy
Speaker 2: who would know how this could affect the potential for
Speaker 2: a contract negotiation this upcoming off season, joins us now.
Speaker 2: His name is Andrew Brandt. He is, he has. He's
Speaker 2: the host of the business sports podcast under DraftKings Network.
Speaker 2: He's also the author of the Sunday seven newsletter, which
Speaker 2: you can sign up for on his social media pages
Speaker 2: IG and Twitter as well, and he joins us now
Speaker 2: on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Andrew,
Speaker 2: before we get to the Niners, the Lions played their starters,
Speaker 2: played to win, and you've been in with the Packers organization,
Speaker 2: with the Eagles organization. What are your thoughts on the
Speaker 2: lines logic behind playing their guys last night in the
Speaker 2: game that did nothing for them in terms of playoff seating.
Speaker 12: Yeah, good morning, Doug. Always good to be with you.
Speaker 12: I am not, I repeat not a believer in playing
Speaker 12: starters and stars and games like this, and I think
Speaker 12: you'll see most of the teams agree with that on
Speaker 12: Sunday this weekend. But Dan Kimbell's got his own feelings
Speaker 12: and that was important to him. Maybe a little bit
Speaker 12: different going into a big game next week rather than
Speaker 12: a rest for the playoffs. So I'll give him that. Listen,
Speaker 12: my feeling, Doug is risk reward. It's always come down
Speaker 12: to risk reward. What's the risk and the risk is phenomenal.
Speaker 12: The risk is getting one of her stars, God forbid
Speaker 12: your quarterback hurt in a meaningless game for the playoffs.
Speaker 12: What's the reward? I don't get it. Winning a game
Speaker 12: that doesn't matter, I guess, but to me, that's not comparable.
Speaker 12: So I am a total believer in I changed the
Speaker 12: Herm Edwards line. You don't play to win the and
Speaker 12: a regular season game. Yeah, you play to win the
Speaker 12: playoffs game. So it's pretty clear to me.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so Doug quick one on that.
Speaker 4: Sorry, we had troubles with my mic here, but just
Speaker 4: on the on the line sort of thing. Andrew, when
Speaker 4: you were an executive with the Packers, what happens with
Speaker 4: bonuses and stuff like that, Like, like, I do you know,
Speaker 4: how is that reviewed during the week, especially if you
Speaker 4: are going to be sitting guys and having that discussion.
Speaker 3: How does that come about? And how do you deal
Speaker 3: with that as a front office?
Speaker 12: Yeah, Dan, that's a great question, and that is a problem.
Speaker 12: And when I was with the Packers, we fortunately we're
Speaker 12: in a lot of those games where the sixteenth game
Speaker 12: at that time seventeenth game now didn't really matter. So
Speaker 12: we did sit stars and starters. But I also instituted
Speaker 12: something contractually with the Packers that a lot of teams
Speaker 12: use now called per game rock bonuses. So it's a
Speaker 12: way of getting the player money. But he has to
Speaker 12: be healthy, that's really all he has to be to
Speaker 12: be a part of the forty seven man active roster,
Speaker 12: and yes, this was a problem. Players came up to
Speaker 12: me after these games. Even one player during a championship
Speaker 12: NFC Championship game came up to me and said, what
Speaker 12: am I going to get those bonuses for the sixteenth game?
Speaker 12: And I had to adjust some contracts in the year
Speaker 12: the next year because I didn't foresee that problem, And
Speaker 12: absolutely not did I tell the coaches about it. The
Speaker 12: coaches and the cap contract guy should not be talking
Speaker 12: about these things, and I include that with incentive bonuses,
Speaker 12: whether a guy is close to one thousand yards or
Speaker 12: close to fifty catches or close to eight sacs. I
Speaker 12: created a wall. I did not want any coaches knowing
Speaker 12: about that, because then you could really face the agent
Speaker 12: and player and saying absolutely not, there was no communication
Speaker 12: about that, and be honest about it. So that's a
Speaker 12: great question, and that's how I handled it.
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of contract negotiations, do you think last night's injury, again,
Speaker 2: we have no idea this severity does to the contract
Speaker 2: negotiatations in brock Pirty.
Speaker 12: Well, we're going to assume that he's going to be
Speaker 12: ready to play in twenty twenty five. I mean This
Speaker 12: sounds like kind of the injury he had in the
Speaker 12: championship game in twenty twenty three, So we're going to
Speaker 12: assume this is not going to affect his playing in
Speaker 12: twenty five. Here's the thing. He is going to get
Speaker 12: a big contract. The question to me is how big?
Speaker 12: Because the market, as you and I have talked about
Speaker 12: many times, has gone to the fifties fifty five and
Speaker 12: then of course the outlier with Prescott at sixty. I
Speaker 12: just don't see him getting there. Now. Everyone could say, well,
Speaker 12: why not, because he's among those guys and his record,
Speaker 12: but I just don't see it. And what the leverage
Speaker 12: the forty nine ers have is that that fourth year.
Speaker 12: In other words, he's done three years of a seventh
Speaker 12: round contract, which is peanuts. He's still got a year
Speaker 12: left on that. Now, are the forty niners going to
Speaker 12: make him play for a million dollars in his fourth year?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 12: But are they going to offer him fifty five million dollars?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 12: So I guess I'm looking at it as party's going
Speaker 12: to make a decision. Do I play for a million
Speaker 12: dollars or do I play for a contract averaging pick
Speaker 12: a number thirty million dollars, thirty five million dollars, forty
Speaker 12: million dollars and am I really going to push for
Speaker 12: fifty million dollars? So that's the leverage the forty nine
Speaker 12: ers have. It's you got a year left at a
Speaker 12: million dollars, so you turn down or offer. That's what
Speaker 12: you're looking at.
Speaker 4: Can they use the elbow injury even if they think
Speaker 4: everything's going to be fine? Can they use it against
Speaker 4: him like you would maybe an arbitration in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 12: It's tough, you know, obviously tough to negotiate that way
Speaker 12: and talk about injuries, but it will be a factor
Speaker 12: if we're looking at it affecting next season. If this
Speaker 12: comes back as nerve damage, that can be lingering or
Speaker 12: whatever the word is into next season. Yes, absolutely, it's
Speaker 12: like someone coming off a knee injury. You're not going
Speaker 12: to do a huge contract based on that.
Speaker 2: What do you think Sam Donald's market looks.
Speaker 12: Like different than party because of what I just said.
Speaker 12: He's a free agent. He's a free agent, so there's
Speaker 12: no extra year that they can negotiate off like the
Speaker 12: forty nine ers can. So now we're talking a different
Speaker 12: market and just forget about numbers I think Donald will
Speaker 12: make more than party because of contract status. So yeah,
Speaker 12: the Vikings will try to sign him, but they won't
Speaker 12: be the only ones. So now you've got leverage, Now
Speaker 12: you've got teams. Now you got something that is so
Speaker 12: rare in the NFL, productive quarterbacks on the market. When
Speaker 12: does that happen?
Speaker 3: Never?
Speaker 12: So I think his market is strong, extremely strong. And
Speaker 12: this idea of trading JJ McCarthy, that's you don't trade
Speaker 12: a number one pick that hasn't played. That won't happen.
Speaker 12: But if the Vikings retain him, it's then it's the discussion,
Speaker 12: the discussion we had in Green Bay for every you know,
Speaker 12: for for Rogers and for love, Like, what's the time
Speaker 12: If you're JJ McCarthy's agent, are you are you going
Speaker 12: to accept two years guaranteed for Donald? You don't have
Speaker 12: anything to say about it, but are you going to
Speaker 12: accept three years guaranteed for Donald? That's a long time.
Speaker 12: That would be four years of waiting. So we'll see
Speaker 12: what happens. They've got to deal with a lot in
Speaker 12: Minnesota once they get.
Speaker 5: Past the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Kind of on the flip side of things, I know
Speaker 4: it's only two years in, but there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of good coming from Indianapolis with someone like Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 4: But again, when you're drafting a player like that, you
Speaker 4: and the limited experience he had coming into the NFL,
Speaker 4: what sort of window do you give a quarterback like
Speaker 4: that if you're Indianapolis, especially if your backup plan right
Speaker 4: now is in aging Joe Flacco, who's on the couch
Speaker 4: for most of last season, what do you do if
Speaker 4: you're the Colts in your young.
Speaker 12: Quarterback, Well, you don't cut them, you don't trade them,
Speaker 12: but you do have a better backup plan than what
Speaker 12: you just talked about on the couch. You have a
Speaker 12: serious backup plan. You have a serious player that can
Speaker 12: come in there. And I don't know who that is.
Speaker 12: That's a long way off. But you're not talking about
Speaker 12: a stop gap anymore in a place like Indianapolis. You're
Speaker 12: not talking about a Flacco type. You're talking about a
Speaker 12: real option, and you're not giving up on Richardson. Of course,
Speaker 12: you know, it's like what I heard about Bryce Young
Speaker 12: and early part of this ish. No, you don't give
Speaker 12: up a number one picks this early, but you better
Speaker 12: have an option. No, it's not like in Cleveland as well,
Speaker 12: and that's a whole other situation. But they're not going
Speaker 12: into Cleveland next year again with these sort of retread
Speaker 12: backups anymore. They're going with a real option, So it's
Speaker 12: going to be interesting with those teams.
Speaker 2: He's the one only Andrew Brant, of course, he's a
Speaker 2: former executive with the Packers, the host of the Business
Speaker 2: Sports podcast and the DraftKings Network, and the author of
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Speaker 2: on his social media pages. Andrew, Happy New Year to you,
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 12: Thanks you guys having new year.
Speaker 2: Gottlie Dan Byer in for Dan Dannett's Jay Stu. I
Speaker 2: think you had another say what for us?
Speaker 8: I just want to continue our gifts for the listeners
Speaker 8: throughout their show today. I want to play sound from
Speaker 8: the Year in Sports in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 7: And it's a bit uh. We like to call this.
Speaker 1: I don't want me waiting a minute, they said, what.
Speaker 7: I think that's a pretty good intro. In fact, I
Speaker 7: like it a lot.
Speaker 8: We might have to institute it on our daily show,
Speaker 8: The Doug Gottleep Show. So the second bit of sound
Speaker 8: I want to say, I don't want to speak for
Speaker 8: Dan here, but I think it's his favorite from the year.
Speaker 8: Dan was the one who was watching the off season
Speaker 8: Hard Knocks up close. And of course this exchange with
Speaker 8: Joel Shane and John Mara about Saquon Barkley really stood
Speaker 8: out right.
Speaker 13: What's the latest on I just got a text that
Speaker 13: Chicago's driving the price up and Philly's out.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true or.
Speaker 1: Not, which I don't know if I'll make a couple
Speaker 1: of calls.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if that's gonna gonna happen, but
Speaker 4: I have a tough time sleep.
Speaker 13: And if Siquand goes the film outside of that, as
Speaker 13: I told you, just being up, I had been around
Speaker 13: enough players so but he's the most popular player we
Speaker 13: have by far, so good.
Speaker 2: So here's I just again. I mean John Marrow was
Speaker 2: telling him right there, just get this thing done, right,
Speaker 2: I mean everyone heard it at the time. Just get
Speaker 2: this thing done. Like stop. You can explain all you
Speaker 2: want about years and whatever, just get this thing done.
Speaker 2: And remember Sequon Barkley, who's got a chance to set
Speaker 2: the all time single season rushing mark. He only left
Speaker 2: for a million dollars more. The whole contracts a million
Speaker 2: dollars more, which signifies two things. One, you know, the
Speaker 2: Giants weren't willing to go, hey, whatever you do, we'll
Speaker 2: offer you more money. And then two, uh he was
Speaker 2: it was. It became petty at the end. It became
Speaker 2: it became an ego thing.
Speaker 4: It's interesting because I I don't it's not the exact opposite,
Speaker 4: but I look at it from a different angle, and
Speaker 4: I'm glad we played that sound because it's not the
Speaker 4: pile on Joe Shane. It's actually to applaud Joe Shane
Speaker 4: and the entire Giants organization for doing this. And I
Speaker 4: don't know if the NFL forced him to do it,
Speaker 4: but I don't know if a team will ever do
Speaker 4: it again.
Speaker 3: I hope they do.
Speaker 4: I hope we get access like that because it actually
Speaker 4: shows what goes on in these scenarios. I would have
Speaker 4: loved to have heard the conversations of the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 4: And now we look at the quarterback situation and we
Speaker 4: see Michael Pennix has taken over, But imagine what those
Speaker 4: conversations would have been. Joe Shane may have been wrong,
Speaker 4: but I just feel that his handicap was wrong, Like
Speaker 4: in terms of Seguon Barkley, and we've discussed this and
Speaker 4: many others have discussed it as well. Seguon Barkley was
Speaker 4: not going to do what he did in Philadelphia in
Speaker 4: New York this year. That was not going to happen,
Speaker 4: and so you have these like sequence of events where
Speaker 4: then the Giants are like, let's go and get your
Speaker 4: weapon Daniel Jones. They get them with leak neighbors that
Speaker 4: actually hits. They wanted to go cheap in the running
Speaker 4: back market. It turns out Tyrone and Tracy was pretty
Speaker 4: good for him. They had a bunch of injuries on
Speaker 4: the offensive line that they tried to fortify as part
Speaker 4: of the hard knocks that we found out there were
Speaker 4: a bunch of pieces they could get. They lost their
Speaker 4: left tackle Andrew Thomas for the season. So it just
Speaker 4: didn't work out for the Giants and it very likely
Speaker 4: could cost them all their jobs. Brian Dable, Joe Shane,
Speaker 4: the whole deal and what was a make or break year.
Speaker 4: But sometimes those things happen, and I'm so grateful that
Speaker 4: we got to look at it. So I don't want
Speaker 4: to make it seem like we're piling on Joe Shane
Speaker 4: because it gave us insight into what a general manager
Speaker 4: actually has to decide.
Speaker 2: And to add on to that is, let's also be honest,
Speaker 2: it looks really bad right now. There's just no you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Raiders have a running back who's you know,
Speaker 2: Tom Telesco gets that job late, and the Raiders had
Speaker 2: already kind of been a dude to a running back
Speaker 2: who's having a heck of a year in Green Bay.
Speaker 2: The Packers had Aaron Jones who's having a heck of
Speaker 2: a year in Minnesota. And of course Park and this
Speaker 2: was all the talk of last year leading up to
Speaker 2: the season. But remember the fight, from these general managers'
Speaker 2: perspective and from the league's perspective, was not over one year.
Speaker 2: It was all of these guys wanted essentially three years guaranteed,
Speaker 2: and the likelihood that they're anywhere near as productive in
Speaker 2: year two and year three is minimal. It just is
Speaker 2: that was the real that's the real gamble here. There
Speaker 2: was never and this is what I hate about headlines
Speaker 2: and some reporting in our business, which is they you
Speaker 2: either want or don't want somebody. The Giants wanted Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 2: They just never wanted to give him a three year
Speaker 2: guaranteed deal, just didn't because he's been injured a lot,
Speaker 2: you know, So I just I let's let's see how
Speaker 2: it ultimately plays out. But right now, yes, it looks
Speaker 2: like words that end up causing you to get fired
Speaker 2: because of it. This one decision. I'm Doug Gottlibe's Dan
Speaker 2: Byer in for Dan and Danettes today. Come up next
Speaker 2: to Dan Patrick Show. Do you remember who won all
Speaker 2: of the championships in all of the major awards this year?
Speaker 2: We'll remind you next.
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Speaker 2: Jay Stu is a Steam producer. So Jay Stu, is
Speaker 2: this one of those like you want to be the
Speaker 2: annoying triz trivia guy? Or do you want buyer to
Speaker 2: do the game? How do you want to do it?
Speaker 2: Towards like quizzing us on what every championship in every award,
Speaker 2: like just without looking it up without thinking. That's the idea.
Speaker 8: Dan is the ultimate game maker. He makes the games
Speaker 8: for us on the Doug Gottlieb Show every day. He
Speaker 8: came up with all of this, and I'm gonna leave
Speaker 8: it to him to host it.
Speaker 4: All Right, let's get to a game, yeah, Doug. We
Speaker 4: don't even need any game time imaging. I just need
Speaker 4: some music because I'm going to tell you what's going
Speaker 4: to happen. We're going to look back over these last
Speaker 4: three and sixty six days, right, because we had the
Speaker 4: leap year. Right, we had the Leap year this past year.
Speaker 4: Don't forget about that. A lot has happened. Some you
Speaker 4: remember and some you forget. Yeah, and that's what we
Speaker 4: are here for. I have a list of thirty three
Speaker 4: events or awards that occurred, and we just have to
Speaker 4: find the winners of each.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have no just see you guys understand. I'm
Speaker 2: in my office here at Green Bay. Okay, I have
Speaker 2: three computers up, but none of them are googling or
Speaker 2: searching or whatever. None of them. Okay, so I'm just
Speaker 2: going to go off the top of my head. No,
Speaker 2: no looking at good. You ask them, I'll try and
Speaker 2: get them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and at some point we will ask the listener
Speaker 4: those on social media if they would like to get
Speaker 4: in on the action as well. But here are the
Speaker 4: thirty three events that I want to know who won
Speaker 4: or who claimed the award for in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: So if the.
Speaker 4: Super Bowl was played in February, if the National Championship
Speaker 4: Game was played in January, I want to know who
Speaker 4: won that game. So the NFL College Football, NBA, WNBA
Speaker 4: Men's College Basketball Final four, Women's Final Four, Major League Baseball,
Speaker 4: College Baseball World Series, College World Series of Softball, NCAA
Speaker 4: Volleyball champion, Stanley Cup Champion. Who won the Masters, PGA Championship,
Speaker 4: US Open to the Open Championship. How about the winner
Speaker 4: of the MLS Premier League or the UAFA Champions League.
Speaker 4: Let's go to tennis, Australia Open, French Open, Wimbledon, US Open.
Speaker 4: How about the most medals won by a gold medals
Speaker 4: won by a country at the Paris Olympic Games, NFL MVP,
Speaker 4: NBA MVP, WNBA, MVP AL, MVP NLMVP Heisman Trophy. Who
Speaker 4: won the NASCAR Cup Series this past year? Who won
Speaker 4: Daytona five hundred? Who won f one, and who won
Speaker 4: the ndy five hundred. I want to know all those answers.
Speaker 2: Wow, let's go, okay, which first?
Speaker 3: Any of them? Just take them? Yeah, no, just just
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 2: To the order, and I'm gonnall shout them out because
Speaker 2: I think they'll come to my mind.
Speaker 4: National Football League, your Super Bowl champions, Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3: They did. They beat the.
Speaker 4: Forty nine ers in Super Bowl fifty nine in overtime.
Speaker 4: Doug College Football's National champions sneeche again and they ended
Speaker 4: up routing TCU's all right, there's enough of that, Mark Jason,
Speaker 4: if you want to try to chime in as.
Speaker 7: Well, I got the NBA champ. I think it was
Speaker 7: the Celtics.
Speaker 4: No, yes, the Boston Celtics. They beat the Dallas Mavericks
Speaker 4: in five games. So the top three are off the board.
Speaker 4: Next WNB.
Speaker 2: New York Liberty wanted, didn't they?
Speaker 3: Is that an answer? Is that a guest to the
Speaker 3: New York Liberty. It was the New York.
Speaker 4: Liberty, Yes, congratulations. They topped the Minnesota Lynx in five games.
Speaker 4: And remember when we thought the Links coach was mad
Speaker 4: about Caitlin Clark, then she was mad that the w
Speaker 4: NBA Championship, said Cheryl Reeve, was that the Yeah, there
Speaker 4: was another bit of sound that maybe we did we
Speaker 4: maybe missed out on. Can't remember. What about the men's
Speaker 4: basketball final four?
Speaker 2: Who won the national championship last year?
Speaker 7: No? The final four team.
Speaker 2: Ucn Oh you won final four teams? Yes, Purdue, you
Speaker 2: con Wow, this is Alamma Alabama?
Speaker 4: I know Ja, I know Jay Stus.
Speaker 2: You know Jay?
Speaker 3: That good work, guys, Yes, Jay Stu. What do you know?
Speaker 8: Because I turned ten dollars into like three thousand dollars survivor.
Speaker 7: Thank you for dan By for introducing me.
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, you can cut down the nets.
Speaker 4: What about the women's final four in college basketball?
Speaker 2: Iowa? Uh, South Carolina.
Speaker 7: Did make it.
Speaker 2: No, that was the Elite eight. They lost the Elite eight.
Speaker 4: I think, yes, that is correct to Caitlin Clark and
Speaker 4: Iowa is in it?
Speaker 2: Carolina, Yes, they were, Yukon was in it, and I
Speaker 2: don't know who the other team was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to be part of the dilemma. We're
Speaker 4: gonna have to We're gonna need that answer. We're gonna
Speaker 4: need that answer at some point. But yeah, remember Iowa, Yukon,
Speaker 4: Stanford and the fouls that were called, and the moving
Speaker 4: screen and that National semi final game Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3: Low hanging fruit there, I got that. Go yep.
Speaker 4: The Dodgers beating the Yankees in five games. College Baseball
Speaker 4: World Series starts to get hard.
Speaker 7: Right now.
Speaker 2: I want to say, somebody as Oh, Tennessee.
Speaker 4: That is correct, dog, Yes, they beat Texas A and
Speaker 4: M in three games.
Speaker 2: SEC has all the money, they got, all the baseball
Speaker 2: dudes and the Tennessee coaches. He was talking it and
Speaker 2: walking it.
Speaker 4: They also, I think one like the shot contest in
Speaker 4: Omaha at that bar where you have the most shots.
Speaker 4: What about the College Softball World Series? That is correct?
Speaker 4: We swept Florida State two to oh in that best
Speaker 4: of three series. I feel like we could say that
Speaker 4: every year with the Sooners. All right, NCAA Volleyball champions.
Speaker 2: There's really only two possible answers here. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with Nebraska.
Speaker 3: No, that is no, that is not the case. This
Speaker 3: is state right hen State it was, Yes, it.
Speaker 2: Was those only two answers.
Speaker 3: By the way, Wisconsin could have been was a great story.
Speaker 7: The head coach is a battling cancel.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. She's batting cans.
Speaker 4: Yes, I forgot that just happened with the final four,
Speaker 4: all number one seeds Louisville.
Speaker 2: We'll get more of this upcoming next hour, as well as, uh,
Speaker 2: what should the Eagles do at running back? This weekend,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the next The Dan Patrick Show fot
Speaker 2: to Portrayio