1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe. 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Katty arm Strong and Decade and no Pee Armstrong and Jetty. 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: If you are calling about the crisis in the Middle East, 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: please press one. 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So we have 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: a number of bits of audio here centering around the 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 4: conflict with Iran, the ongoing effort to bring down the regime. 23 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: At some point, I want to get a little more 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: specific about how Israel in particular is going after Iran's 25 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: police state. I mean the apparatus, all of it, that 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 4: was mowing down citizens in the street, torturing dissidents, hanging 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: gay people, raping women, the rest of it. They're trying 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: to dismantle it piece by piece so that people of 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: Iran can rise up. And it's only just begun, according 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: to what they say. But first of all, Marco Rubio 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: addressing the question of Israeli and US cooperation. 32 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 5: There absolutely was an eminent threat, and the eminent threat 33 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 5: was that we knew that if Iran was attacked, and 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 5: we believed they would be attacked, that they would. 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: Immediately come after us. 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: And we were not going to sit there and absorb 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 5: a blow before we responded, because the Department of War 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 5: as says that if we did that, if we waited 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 5: for them to hit us first after they were attacked 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: and by someone else Israel attacked them, they hit us first, 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: and we waited for them to hit us, we would 42 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: suffer more casualties and more deaths. We went proactively in 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 5: a defensive way to prevent them from inflicting higher damage. 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 5: Have we not done so there would have been hearings 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 5: on Capitol Hill about how we knew that this was 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: going to happen and we didn't act preemptively to prevent 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: more casualties and more loss of life. 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: That's absolutely true. It'd been just like, after nine to eleven, 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: why didn't you act on this intelligence? Why don't we 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: get all kinds of intelligence? But it would have been 51 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: it would have been, you know, we could have had 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty guys killed, and you'd been asked 53 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: you knew this was going to happen, You knew Israel 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: was going to attack, and you did nothing right. 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: Marco there though with a rare misstep. 56 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: I think in that it did sound like Israel was 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: wagging the dog that they decided to attack, so we 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: had to join blah blah blah, And as we discussed earlier, 59 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: I don't think that's a good way to describe it, 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: and I'm surprised he did. By way of setting that up, 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: Let's hear Steve Witkoff Michael from. 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 6: Yesterday, and let me say this, because I forgot this 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 6: small little detail in that first meeting, both the Iranian 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 6: negotiators said to us directly, with no shame that they 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 6: controlled four hundred and sixty kilograms of sixty percent, and 66 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 6: they're aware that that could make eleven nuclear bombs. And 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: that was the beginning of the negotiating stance. So that's 68 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 6: they were proud of it. They were proud that they 69 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: had evaded all sorts of oversight protocols to get to 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 6: a place where they could deliver eleven nuclear bombs. 71 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: So why would they say or do that if that's accurate. 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: I am so astounded and be fuddled by their negotiating 73 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: tactics during the recent talks. I don't know, But for 74 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: that's Steve Witkoff, Trump's number one negotiator in the region, 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: to say, they sat down and said, well, right, they 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: sat down and said, yeah, we've got enough enriched uranium 77 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: to make eleven nuclear bombs. Just keep that in mind, bitches. 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 4: And Witkough was like, what in report of that to 79 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: the president? And then when those negotiations clearly we're going nowhere, 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 4: and Israel told the White House, hey, guys, we know 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: precisely where the Ayatola is and there's a giant meeting 82 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 4: tomorrow of all of his leadership above ground, and we 83 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 4: can get them. We're gonna move on them, and Trump 84 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 4: said clearly, and Rubio and Hegzeth said do it. 85 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: We're with you. Now is the time to bring down 86 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: the regime. 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: So yes, Israel was going too st iich Iran and 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 4: if we did not help them, we would have absorbed 89 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: the blow before we went. So Marco, everything he said 90 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: was right, but he left out the part that we've 91 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: been working with the Israelis for a very long time 92 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: on what's the opportunity to bring down the regime, how 93 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: are the negotiations going, what do we know about the 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: leadership and the rest of it. 95 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: So it was just two allies cooperator. 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, let me just say, as a guy who reads 97 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: a lot of recent history, there's always so much we 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: don't know, always so much. There will be a Bob 99 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: Woodward book in two years or earlier about how this 100 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: all played out, and there'll be a lot of stuff 101 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: that's completely new, moving pieces. 102 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: And that's that's one of the. 103 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: Problems with these sorts of things is we have an 104 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: open system. The people are in charge, civilian control all 105 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: these different sorts of things. But in retrospect, looking back, 106 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: there's always a whole bunch of things the voters don't 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: know about that are going on. 108 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, getting back to that other clip. This is today's 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 4: seventy one Michael. This is Marco Rue when he was 110 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: a senator back in twenty fifteen, warning what would happen 111 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: with the Obama Iran nuclear deal. 112 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: Iran will immediately use the money that it's receiving and 113 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: sanctions relief to begin to build up its conventional capabilities. 114 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 5: They're going to build anti access capabilities, rockets capable of 115 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 5: destroying aircraft, carriers and ships. Continue to build these swift 116 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: boats that are able to swarm our naval assets, and 117 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 5: they'll make it harder and harder for US. 118 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: Troops to be in the region. 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 5: They'll also work with other terrorist groups in the region 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 5: the target American servicemen and women. 121 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: They'll alts. 122 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: Will continue to build long range missiles, missiles capable of 123 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 5: reaching the United States. Those are not affected by this deal, 124 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 5: and they'll continue to build them as they've been doing. 125 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 5: And then at some point in the near future, when 126 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 5: the time is right, they will build a nuclear weapon. 127 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 5: And they will do so because at that point they 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: will know that they have become immune, that we will 129 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 5: no longer be able to strike their nuclear program because 130 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: the price of doing so will be too high. 131 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: Absolutely every word of that was true. They were working 132 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: as hard as they could to do all of those things. 133 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: Very clever by Iran. I thank you. 134 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: We were talking about this the other day, to have 135 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: all these other groups with different names, so that people 136 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: kind of think, well, there's Hesbala. 137 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: And there's some Moss and the who's the They're all 138 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: iron right. 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: Russia didn't come up with that plant that idea, or 140 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Hitler didn't. I mean you should have had, you know, 141 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: all these different groups instead of just it's the Russians 142 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: or the Nazis, because it's a good way to spread 143 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: out the blame in people's minds. Arguably maybe mercenaries, but 144 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: they're controlled by Iran, by directed by here's Marco responding 145 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: to the narrative that Israel wagged our dog. 146 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 5: President made a decision, and the decision he made was 147 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 5: that Iran was not going to be allowed to hide 148 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: behind its ballistic missile program, that Iran was not going 149 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 5: to be allowed to hide behind its ability. 150 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: To conduct these attacks. 151 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 5: That decision had been made. The President systematically made a 152 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 5: decision to systematically destroy this terroristic capability that they had. 153 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: How we carried that out. 154 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 5: I was very clearing that answer. This was a question 155 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 5: of timing of why this had to happen as a 156 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: joint operation, not the question of the intent. Once the 157 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 5: President made a decision that negotiations were not going to work, 158 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: that they were playing us on the negotiations, and that 159 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 5: this was a threat that was untenable, the decision was 160 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 5: made to strike them position. 161 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: That's what I said yesterday. And you guys need to 162 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: play it him. 163 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 5: You're gonna play these statements. 164 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: You need to play the whole statement, not slipping it 165 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: to reach the narrative that you want to do. 166 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: All right, that was a big talk all day long 167 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: that media outlets took a portion of what Rubio said, 168 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: which gave it different context. 169 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: Right right, How about the quiet wisdom of Senator John 170 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: Kennedy of Louisiana. 171 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: That's what we need right now. Seventy three Michael, I. 172 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 7: Don't hate anyone, but I will shed no tears for 173 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 7: the I TOLDO come many. He won the corn Tosh, 174 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 7: and he elected to receive, and boy did he receive. 175 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 7: May he rest in pieces. He died with the with 176 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 7: the with the bud of millions of people under his fingernails. 177 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: And Milt do that. 178 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: And Jack, I know you wanted to squeeze this in 179 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: if we could. This is hapless, useless, weasele care Starmer, 180 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 4: the current Prime Minister of Britain, who would bring down 181 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: the Western world if he could out of his own 182 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: white guilt begging the Muslim community for forgiveness or permission 183 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: or something or other. 184 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 8: Yes, Starmer is desperately trying to maintain a positive relationship 185 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 8: with the Islamic community in the UK. Just days after 186 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 8: the joint US and Israeli attack that took out the 187 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 8: ietoler Cumeni, the PM hosted an iftar in Westminster Hall 188 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 8: where he panded to the Islamic community, making clear that 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 8: the UK had no part in the strikes against Iran. 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 9: I want to make clear the UK was not in offensive. 191 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 9: Price of the US and Israel remains because. 192 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: Wow, within so when did he do that? Yesterday or 193 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: day before? Okay, so it's either. 194 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: Forty eight or seventy two hours after your closest ally 195 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: launches an attack against an enemy of the world, you 196 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: go to a group and say, hey, we had nothing 197 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: to do with this, by the way, nothing, we weren't 198 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: involved at all. I mean, you got to take that 199 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: shot in the early hours of this well, I screw him. 200 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: He can't leave fast enough. He's bad for the world. 201 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: He's part of a government that actively covered up a 202 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 4: gang rape of syndicate because he was afraid of angering 203 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 4: Muslim folks and or coming off as racist or bigoted 204 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 4: or something, covered up the repeated sexual abuse of young 205 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 4: English girls. So yeah, begging for forgiveness from you know, 206 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 4: some gathering is nothing for him. Right on a lighter note, 207 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: because it pisses me off, here's some good, good advice. Seriously, 208 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 4: now good advice. 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In Reuter's ipsos it's 238 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 3: eighty two. So it seems to be in the low 239 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: mid eighty support among Republicans for this. 240 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a great, great piece by on Iranian he's 241 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: the director of Iranian Study at Stanford and a fellow 242 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: at the Hoover Institution. On the prospects of getting rid 243 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: of the regime that I found pretty compelling. In fact, 244 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: we could probably talk to him at some point, as 245 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: we are friends with you institution. 246 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a little bit. Woll stay tuned. 247 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 10: Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome under political attack, grieled over 248 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 10: her agencies, aggressive deportation policies and the deaths of American 249 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 10: citizens Alex Pretty and Renee Good. Republican Senator Tom Tillis, 250 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 10: who's called for Noome to resign, was relentless. 251 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 11: And what we've seen is a disaster under your leadership, Missnome. 252 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 10: But many Senate Republicans defending DHS immigration. 253 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 12: Tactics, These men and women who are trying to solve 254 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 12: this problem that was created by our Democratic colleagues. 255 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: You have no idea the mess they inherited. 256 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: Pretty jazzy hearing John Kennedy, the aforementioned folks see Louisiana 257 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: and going after a Secretary Nome over the two hundred 258 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 4: and twenty million dollar advertising campaign and who got money 259 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: from it? And then Tom Tillis, a Republican in North 260 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 4: Carolina who I think is retiring, is not running for reelection. 261 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: Just absolutely lighten her up, chewing her ound. I think 262 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: the dynamic here is there were a handful of cabinet 263 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: choices that the President Trump made that the senators on 264 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: the committees were like, you know, are you sure you 265 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: want this person because we're not impressed. And Trump insisted 266 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: and they said all right. But then you know, when 267 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: Gnome failed to impress on the job, They're. 268 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Like, get get her out of here. She looked fantastic yesterday. 269 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: She had her shiny, shiny lips and her her shiny 270 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: shiny hair, no doubt, yes, looking very glam Why don't 271 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 4: we give you just a flavor of Tom Tillis? 272 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: Which one did you just recommend? Hanson? Let's see there's 273 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: a eighty three? Yeah, why not? 274 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 11: There's very few people in this and Capitol, Oh Hill 275 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 11: to support law enforcement more than me, including the sworn 276 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 11: ice officers. In fact, I've just been told fortunately in 277 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 11: about a week and a half, we're going to get 278 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 11: a plaque on the wall over the Capitol thanking the 279 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 11: Capitol police officers, and all the agencies are responding on 280 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 11: January sixth, all those thugs have actually been pardoned, and 281 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 11: yet we haven't thanked the Capitol police officers for their 282 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 11: work care. So when I say I'm unapologetically pro law enforcement, 283 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 11: you can count in every single sworn officer and Homeland Security. 284 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: So that's a Republican who called the people that were 285 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: pardoned by Trump thugs. 286 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: Yes. Wow, that's that's something he must not be. He 287 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: must not be up for election anytime soon. 288 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: No, as you saw a number of people yesterday who 289 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: have gone anti Trump get primaried and lose yesterday. 290 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Tom Tillis, as I said, he's not running for reelection. 291 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: And it's it's a pretty clear example of the I 292 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: don't care anymore. I'm going to say what I think, 293 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: whether you agree with him or not. You know what, 294 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: we got two minutes, Go ahead and do any seven. Michael, 295 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: it's too good. 296 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 11: I read your book last week, and honestly, some of 297 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 11: the parts of it impressed me, but some of it 298 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 11: distresses me. And I'll give you a good example of 299 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 11: one that does the passage where you talk about killing 300 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 11: a dog that was fourteen months old. I trained dogs, 301 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 11: all right, and you are a farmer. You should know better. 302 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 11: You should know that if you're going out to a 303 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 11: hunting lodge and you're putting pheasants out and you're putting 304 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 11: dogs out, you don't take a puppy out there. A 305 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 11: fourteen month old dog is basically a teenager in dog years. 306 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 11: You decided to kill that dog because you had not 307 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 11: invested the appropriate time in training. And then you have 308 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 11: the audacity to go into a book and say it's 309 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 11: a leadership lesson about tough choices. It's in your book. 310 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: We could play it if we had time. 311 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 11: At that same one shour, you killed the goat, and 312 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 11: you killed the goat because you said it was behaving badly. 313 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 11: You are a farmer. You don't castraight a goat badly. 314 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 11: You should have probably done that before. But my point 315 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 11: is those are bad decisions made in the heat of 316 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 11: the moment, not unlike what happened up in Minneapolis. I 317 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 11: expect we're an exceptional nation, and one of the reasons 318 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 11: we're exceptional is we expect exceptional leadership. And you've demonstrated 319 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 11: anything but that. And the time that I've seen you 320 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 11: responding to the emergency in North Carolina and across the 321 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 11: Southeast and acknowledging when mistakes are made, and speaking too 322 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 11: soon for the expedient of social media or whatever it is. 323 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 3: He Anna Joe and I don't want to relitigate that, 324 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: but I think he's completely wrong about the goat and 325 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: the dog. I think that's justified why she put it 326 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: in her book. I'll never understand that was dumb the dog. 327 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't remember. 328 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 4: The dog fact now Jack pro dog murder. Clearly, people 329 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 4: on the situation are strong and getty. 330 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 13: Thus far, Operation Epic Fury has delivered twice the air 331 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 13: power of Shock in awe of Iraq in two thousand 332 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 13: and three. Minus Paul Bremer and the nation building, the 333 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 13: campaign has seven times the intensity of Israel's previous operations 334 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 13: against Iran during the Twelve Day War, seven times. 335 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: I would like credit for bringing back the name Paul 336 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: Bremmer last week, as I think he is one of 337 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 3: the real villains of planning the Iraq war that somehow 338 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 3: got left off the hook. Any who, he's probably like 339 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: a run in a university somewhere and making a great 340 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: salary and living a great life. I didn't realize that 341 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: what we've done so far is already two times what 342 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: shakan Aw was in Iraq because schakan Ah was something. 343 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: Wow. Here's Pete Haggzeth with a little more from today. 344 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: Iran's senior leaders are dead. 345 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 13: The so called governing council that might have selected a 346 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 13: successor dead, missing or cowering in bunkers, too terrified to 347 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 13: even occupy the same room. Senior general's, mid level officers 348 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 13: enlisted ranks. They can't talk or communicate, let alone mount 349 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 13: a coordinated and sustained offensive. 350 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: That's not great for morale. So is the plan to 351 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: get them to surrender. 352 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: Originally it was laid down your arms and and we'll, 353 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: you know, let you go. 354 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. The difficulty in answering that question simply is that 355 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: who's they at this point? Yeah, somebody I surrender. I'm 356 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 4: the mayor of Tehran Heights. Who's there to surrender? 357 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: Well? 358 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: Did you see the crowd in the streets in Tehran yesterday? 359 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 3: I think it was it was large. They're calling it 360 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: six figures of people in support of the Supreme Leader, 361 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: enchanting death to America in the streets. I mean, it 362 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: looked like the sort of pictures I've been seeing out 363 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: Iran my whole life. So there's still a big chunk 364 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: of people that feel that way or feel like they 365 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: should feel that way, so they don't get shot. 366 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 4: I don't know, well, right, and given the moment, they're 367 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: kind of desperate to keep them all was in charge. 368 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: According to. 369 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 4: The best poll they can possibly get going, fewer than 370 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: twelve percent of her audience support the Islamic Republic status 371 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: quo feered and twelve percent that's still what do they have? 372 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: Ninety million people? Yeah, so you know that's nine ten 373 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: million people. 374 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: So another thing Pete Hasath said is that we hunted 375 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: down and killed the people that were behind the plot 376 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 3: to assassinate assassinate Trump. Do you remember this. This was 377 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: at the very end of the twenty twenty four election campaign. 378 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: Iran had instructed one of its agents running a New 379 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: York City based criminal network. So Iran had people in 380 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: New York running a mafia gang. Basically that's unbelievable right 381 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: on its own. But anyway, they had told that guy 382 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: to stalk and assassinate Trump and that money was not 383 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 3: an issue. An unnamed official and Iran's notorious Islamic Revolutionary 384 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: Guardcore tasked this guy, Fred to Shakerri fifty one during 385 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: September to focus on surveilling and ultimately assassinating Trump. So 386 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: you know that makes you an enemy of the United 387 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: States right there, You were going to kill our president. 388 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: As it turns out, they should have spent more money 389 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: and more time on the plot because they were right 390 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: that Trump was a mortal threat to them. 391 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 392 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, so those people were hunted down and killed over 393 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: the last several days. 394 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 4: Also on the topic of Trump's credibility is a threat? Michael, 395 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 4: can you do me? Seventy three? Be once again John Kennedy. Always, 396 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: folks see number two. 397 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 7: To defeat your adversaries of today's world, you have to 398 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 7: have military power. But it takes more than military power. 399 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 7: You have to have political will. I have watched five 400 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 7: six seven presidents refuse to stand up to the I 401 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 7: toll one. President Trump, hass he's got political will, He's 402 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 7: got oranges and my cheam are disliking. The world is 403 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 7: safer today because of what he has done. 404 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: I was confused there. So that was a euphemism for testicles. 405 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 3: Is that what he's saying, thank you for drawing that 406 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: clear line. 407 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: Yes. Test is often used as. 408 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: An example of a male specifically or also sometimes female, 409 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: their fortitude, willingness, and courage precisely. 410 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, is what they mean. 411 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: Now, the size of oranges would be exceptionally large. 412 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: All men have testicles, but that doesn't necessarily translate to courage, fortitude, 413 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: et cetera, and trans men are men, and it's never 414 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: been proven by science that the size of each individual 415 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: testing has any correlation to your courage. 416 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: Though there may be a correlation between testical size and 417 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: testosterone production, it's an ongoing study. Peeling me a big 418 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: old naval orange, That's what I say. 419 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: So the idea that means, Katie, So, the idea that 420 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: our current sitting president has larger than normal testicles is 421 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: not proven by science, but that was not his point. 422 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: No. 423 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: Indeed, he's extrapolating backwards from the fortitude shown by the 424 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: president and making a an educated guess as to the 425 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: orchidometer readings if one were to measure the presidence, because. 426 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: That is the name of the scientific equipment that measures testicles. 427 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: We learned that from the Barry Bonds trial. That's correct, Yes, Katie, No, 428 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm just really glad you guys are having this conversation. 429 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: I'm learning a lot. Well, you need to know what 430 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: we do we clarify Yes, no, I needed it. Thank you. 431 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: Of Perhaps even greater note is Dan Raisin Kine. The 432 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: General was talking to the assembled press yesterday about the 433 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 4: question of. 434 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: Do we have enough munitions to do this thing sixty. 435 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 14: I know there have been a lot of questions about munitions. 436 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 14: We have sufficient precision munitions for the task at hand, 437 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 14: both on the offense and defense. But I want to 438 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 14: tell you teammates, as a matter of practice, I don't 439 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 14: want to be talking about quantities. And I know there's 440 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 14: been a great debate about that, and I appreciate the interest, 441 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 14: but just know that we consider that an operational security matter. 442 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: M we need more. There's just no doubt. Yeah, that's troubling. 443 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But I am, as I said earlier, at 444 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: the first time, thinking, how does this end? When does 445 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 3: this end? When do we decide we're done? When do 446 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: we decide we're done when they have a fully function 447 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: in government. I assume short of that, But at what 448 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: point if when a person man or woman steps forward 449 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: and says I'm in charge now, and somebody else says 450 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: I second, that is that is that at that point 451 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: we say okay, our work is done. Well, Ran because, 452 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 3: as we discussed yesterday, the top ranking official alive in 453 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: Iran right now might be the assistant director of parks 454 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 3: for some mid level city you've never heard of. 455 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: We don't know. 456 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 4: I dug into a think piece by Abbas Milani, Doctor 457 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: Mulaney's the director of Iranian studies at Stanford fellow at 458 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 4: the Hoover Institution, and the title of his piece was 459 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: the Coming Iranian Revolution. And it's beautifully written, really informative, interesting, 460 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 4: goes into a lot of the history of Iran and 461 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 4: how Ayotola Komeni, the original the og Mulla, how he 462 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 4: duped both Iran and the Western world into thinking he 463 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: was a moderate when indeed he'd actually written a book 464 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: about this that he wanted to rule with an eye 465 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: you're an Islamic fist, And sure enough he did. And 466 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: he goes through the current situation in comedy, the guy 467 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: who took over. But the one question that I was 468 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 4: really hoping to get answered in this piece was, all right, 469 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 4: with everything that's happened, what's like the steps toward the 470 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: next thing? What are those going to look like? The 471 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 4: better new Iran? And man, he doesn't even positive guess. 472 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 2: Well, Trump said yesterday. 473 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: You know, as I'm sorry, he makes clear that there's 474 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: a huge will among the Iranian people for whatever is 475 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: next and not freaking the Mullahs, but no idea how 476 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: it's going to happen, right. Trump mentioned yesterday he was 477 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: asked about you know, what would be a bad result 478 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 3: or worst case scenario, said and he said, well, if 479 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: somebody took over who's as bad or worse than the 480 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: Supreme Leader, I suppose that would be a bad thing. Well, 481 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: that's what happened with the Shaw. The Shaw was very repressive. 482 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: I mean they beaten, tortured people and arrested him too. 483 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: And there weren't a lot of rights under the Shaw. 484 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: And so that's part of where the who ended up 485 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: being the Iatola got his support is people really hated 486 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: living under the Shaw. The Iotola turned out to be 487 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: much much worse. But that's to Trump's point, you could 488 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: replace what you got with something worse. I find that 489 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: hard to believe in this case, but that is what 490 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: happened with the Shaw. And then I thought it was 491 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: interesting on sixty minutes the other night when they had 492 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: the son of the Shaw, who's angling to end up 493 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 3: being put back in charge at least until they can 494 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: have elections. He was asked by Scott Pelly, your father 495 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: arrested people and tortured them, and he kind of just 496 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: dodged that question because what are you going to say? 497 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: But it's true, old Dad. He was he was something, 498 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: wasn't he. Scott? Yeah, well it scamp, Yeah, it was true. 499 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm reminded, though, God, the Western intellectuals and media, how 500 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: badly they got fooled by Komeni. He just duped them 501 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 4: completely because he knew what they wanted to believe, and 502 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: he told him that. 503 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: And the reason that triggered in my head was. 504 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 4: The repression from the Shah was way overboard, and I 505 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: think anybody who cherishes human rights cannot justify. 506 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: It, especially compared to our standards. Oh yeah, exactly. 507 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: But I'm reminded of when the neo Khan, the original 508 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: Wolf of Witz and crew there the Bush administration. 509 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: Bush to convinced us. 510 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: That Iraq was a secular society and that Saddam was 511 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: an oppressor. And as soon as he was removed, why 512 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: they would embrace the Jeffersonian democracy, probably within a week 513 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 4: or two. 514 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: And then the minute. 515 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 4: Saddam's out of the way, all the sectarian slayings started 516 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 4: because these people are hard core fundamentalist Muslims who all 517 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: they care about is she a sunny, what sub sect 518 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: they are, blah blah blah. And while again you can't 519 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 4: justify what the shot did, part of his oppression was 520 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: because of that. He's trying to rule a people that 521 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: will slit each other's throats and his over what the 522 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: religious sector're in the second they get. 523 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: A chance, similar to Egypt when the mubark finally went 524 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: and then a Muslim brotherhood guy tried to take over 525 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: briefly before General Ceci said no, you ain't. 526 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: But he has to keep, you know, a clamp down 527 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: on his people, right. 528 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: But Westerners were so not even some ways. We think 529 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: everybody thinks about the world the same way we do. 530 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: Everybody loves life, and everybody wants to be friends and 531 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: do business, and everybody's prime motivation is to have a 532 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 4: good looking spouse or happy children and enough money to 533 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 4: buy a boat and blah blah blah. And they never 534 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: stopped to think about people who would gleefully, for instance, 535 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 4: called their dad on October seventh and say Dad, I 536 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: killed Jews. 537 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: I killed so many Jews are you proud of me. 538 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: So we played the clip of Gavin Newsom on Jimmy 539 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: Kimmel last night. 540 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: There was more to that. 541 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: They had a fake Gavin Newsom on There is kind 542 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: of a bit with Gavin Newsom and he took some 543 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: pretty harsh shot at California and Gavin on Kimmel, while 544 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: I guess Gavin stood there uncomfortably. 545 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: Laughing, Oh you guys, come on now. 546 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: It's like when you watch those roasts and people are 547 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: just slaying them and you have to kind of either. 548 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: You have no choice but to pretend that's funny. 549 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: Oh boy, you. 550 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 4: Thought, I'm taking this just fine, It's great. 551 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: He laughed. I laughed. Anyway, we'll get to that, among 552 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: other things. Stay tuned. 553 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: Want to alert you that coming up an hour four, 554 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: we're going to get into this what is I think 555 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: going to be a big lawsuit. Guy killed himself, came 556 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 3: under the sway of an AI chatbot Gemini in specific 557 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: the Google one. 558 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: And it was his wife, Jack. 559 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: It was his wife, and he was trying to join 560 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: his wife in the in the digital I don't know, 561 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: the imaginary universe in which they could be together. AI 562 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: convinced him of that. So that's why I killed himself. 563 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: He was going to go blow up the airport for 564 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 3: some reason. I mean, it's a complicated story, but his 565 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: parents are suing Google. 566 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 4: Just an astonishing story about AI gone wild. It's going 567 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 4: to be Next Hour. If you don't get Next Hour, 568 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: you can't hang around. You'd always grab it via podcast, 569 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 4: get Armstrong and Getty on demand, or subscribe to it, 570 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: follow us and it downloads automatically and you'll get it 571 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: sour for of today's show. 572 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: So Gavin Newsom, governor of california's obviously running for president. 573 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: He's got a book and he's out doing a tour 574 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: and talking about America. That's what every single person who's 575 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: run for president has done in my lifetime. 576 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: So he's on Jimmy Kimmel last night. 577 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: We played you a clip earlier that was actually about 578 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: the politics of the state and everything like that. But 579 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: they opened with this. I didn't know Seth Myers. I 580 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: didn't know Seth Myers had a brother. But Seth Myers 581 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 3: has a brother that looks a lot like him, who 582 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: happens to look like Gavin Newsom, who does a Gavin 583 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: Newsom impersonation on the Seth Meyers show. So Seth Myers 584 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: brother came on as Gavin Newsom to Gavin Newsom on 585 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel last night, and they did a bit where 586 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: they gave the real Gavin Newsom an award, and then 587 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 3: this is the and Gavin Newsom, by the way, standing 588 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: there the entire time, looking incredibly uncomfortable with some of 589 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: these jokes. 590 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: Gov. 591 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 12: Gaff for your tireless work and uniting the people of Cali, 592 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 12: from the meth dealers of Riverside to the shapely Armenians 593 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 12: of the Glendale Galleria, from chakra dulas and yoga them's 594 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 12: to farmers market furries and rollerbladers with gluten sensitivities. Governor 595 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 12: Gavin D. Newsom, in association with the Wounded Waymost Project 596 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 12: in the three remaining original members of Incubus, present to you, 597 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 12: Governor Gavin C. 598 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 11: Newsom with the twenty twenty six. 599 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 12: FIFA sky Dance Paramount, Netflix Warner Bros. Big Ass Lipton 600 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 12: cup Oak piece. 601 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: Wow. 602 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: Believable. What is that made of? So? 603 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: So is that a shot at California or Gavin Newsom 604 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: or does it or in terms of running for president 605 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: is it all the same thing? If you say from 606 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: the meth addict, meth addicts of Riverside to the yoga thems, 607 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: I mean chakra dulas. Doesn't that portray Gavin Newsom as 608 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: the leader of a wacka do state? 609 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: Very if you weren't listening, was it? Last hour? 610 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 4: We played another clip from Newsom on Kimmel in which 611 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 4: he was saying, the only reason people criticize California is 612 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: they've got California derangement syndrome because they watch Fox News 613 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: and they just focus on the negative. And California is 614 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 4: actually the greatest place on earth. I mean, everybody loves 615 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 4: it all the time. 616 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. 617 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 4: And of course, the boot licking sycophant gutlass Jimmy Kimmel 618 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: just commits stacks of love and sex on Gavin Newsom. 619 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So was that the end of the interview that 620 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: you were just talking about that Kimmel had the Newsome 621 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: impersonator come out on stage and give this award. 622 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: Uh oh, I like this. 623 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: It opened with I'm so psyched to be here for 624 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: the Newsom twsome, I mean, I just came from a 625 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: ribbon cutting session a shelter for non binary chihuahuas. I 626 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 3: don't think it helps because you know, the Republicans used 627 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: to hang San Francisco around Nancy Pelosi's neck as do 628 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: you want a Nancy Pelosi style America San Francisco. Well, 629 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: I think the same thing can be done with California, 630 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: and Gavin Newsom and Jimmy Kimmel certainly helped that cause 631 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: there I think I read this, and I'm sure you 632 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 3: heard it. Mark Halpern when he was talking to Gavy, 633 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: he was quite pointed. He said, I don't think you're 634 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: gonna end up running for president, or if you do, 635 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: you're gonna run briefly then get out because there's too 636 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 3: many people who don't like you. 637 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 4: Really, I didn't catch that part. Oh yeah, yeah, I 638 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: was surprised how blunt it was. 639 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: Well, I know because I watched Gavin Newsom or Mark 640 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: Alpern's pot podcast a lot. 641 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: He's not big on Gavin. 642 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 3: As a likely nominee or president. He doesn't think Gavin's 643 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 3: the guy, right and why I'm not exactly sure why, 644 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 3: Just because being having California around your neck as an albatross. 645 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the ads right themselves. 646 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 4: Like the clip we played I think was yesterday, of 647 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 4: the montage of Gavin claiming for twenty four years. How 648 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 4: he's going to solve the homeless problem this year. I 649 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 4: mean it was hilarious by the end of it. We've 650 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 4: been saying this for years. I think all you would 651 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 4: need and I could do it this afternoon. I wouldn't 652 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: even have to drive very far. All you need is 653 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 4: sixty seconds of footage of tent after tent after tent 654 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 4: after drug zombie wandering through the street California. Don't even 655 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 4: and just put it down in California. Can we sprinkle 656 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 4: in some products locked up in all the stores and 657 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 4: some smash windows and end with a long close shot 658 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 4: of human feces on the paper. 659 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 2: Just it's controversial. I know it's an eye grabber. You 660 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: can't ignore it. Oh my god. If you missed a segment, 661 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: get the podcast Armstrong and Getty 662 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 6: H