Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders alongside Ian Rappaport and Mike Garafalo.
Speaker 1: I am Tom Pelisero Jam Packed edition once again of
Speaker 1: this show. Cardinals general manager Monty Austen for going to
Speaker 1: join us on the show. Hus Marvin Harrison Junior and
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray looking together. What really happened on the clock
Speaker 1: at number four? We'll get into all that with Monty.
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks is going to join us as well, take
Speaker 1: us through some of the quarterback competitions and drama in
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 2: And what do you know, We've got a little of that.
Speaker 1: Quarterback drama in New York, though it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with a contract for the second straight day. The
Speaker 1: talk of the town, that guy who was not there,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the New York Post thrilled to have some
Speaker 1: backcoage wordplay on a at a time when Ian's metz
Speaker 1: are too irrelevant to kick around. Robert Sola second straight
Speaker 1: day for him as well, have an answer a lot
Speaker 1: of questions.
Speaker 2: It's about the one guy who's not in uniform.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of craziness that came off of Aaron's.
Speaker 4: App sus yesterday as expected. Did you have any contact
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 5: I talked to him after between yesterday today.
Speaker 4: No I happened, Robert.
Speaker 6: You said that you spoke You were aware that Aaron
Speaker 6: was not going to be here before yesterday?
Speaker 7: Is that correct?
Speaker 8: And Tyrod said he.
Speaker 4: Had only found out that morning.
Speaker 6: Is there any reason that wh wasn't communicated to him
Speaker 6: before or No.
Speaker 3: It's a one on one conversation. It's not something that
Speaker 3: the team needed to know about.
Speaker 6: Think you're getting some blowback from media people about the
Speaker 6: use of the word unexcused, and because you were okay
Speaker 6: with him not being here if they did use the
Speaker 6: word unexcused, I'm wondering maybe if you could clarify why.
Speaker 8: You use that word.
Speaker 6: And also did you tell Rod Darren though he was
Speaker 6: going to be termed unexcused and he reacted to that.
Speaker 3: No, you're fine, talked about it yesterday, but Aaron, Aaron
Speaker 3: and I are on the exact same page. There's no
Speaker 3: issue between Aaron or his teammates for that matter. So,
Speaker 3: like I said, we addressed it yesterday. It's more of
Speaker 3: an issue for everyone outside the building than it is inside.
Speaker 4: And that's about it.
Speaker 1: We said it yesterday when this began with the surprise announcement.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers not there in Florin Park for the start
Speaker 1: of the only mandatory session of the off season. It's
Speaker 1: two practices in June. It's probably going to have absolutely
Speaker 1: no burying on how the Jets the offense Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: look when we get into September.
Speaker 2: But this is the story, the factor.
Speaker 1: For the second straight day, You've got Jets players and
Speaker 1: coaches having to go up and try to explain for
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers why he had a very important event that
Speaker 1: apparently was more important than showing up for the last
Speaker 1: session of the offseason. Ian, you weren't here yesterday. He
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to weigh in on this. Tell
Speaker 1: me what you.
Speaker 2: Make of what has taking place right now in New York.
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, that Robert style interview basically seemed
Speaker 9: to be like a postgame interview from like November.
Speaker 8: It was firing squad.
Speaker 9: It was solid, clearly perturbed, same questions over and over again.
Speaker 8: Yes, we went over this yesterday.
Speaker 9: It seemed like a postgame press conference, and nobody on
Speaker 9: a losing one. By the way, nobody seems to want
Speaker 9: to be part of that. Let me go through first
Speaker 9: of all, what this is not. It's not nothing. It's
Speaker 9: nothing that's going to make the team actually distracted. Like
Speaker 9: it's not like players were going to study their playbook
Speaker 9: and now because they're worried about Aaron Rodgers, they're not.
Speaker 8: It's nothing that really affects football.
Speaker 9: But what it is is a perception issue. It is
Speaker 9: a lightning Rodt. Look, we're all talking about it because
Speaker 9: it's June and there's not a ton else to talk about.
Speaker 8: Real football news doesn't really come in June.
Speaker 9: So the fact that we were able to talk about this,
Speaker 9: it's great for us, but it's not going to be
Speaker 9: great for Aaron Rodgers. And especially if things don't get
Speaker 9: off to the kind of swimming start that everyone hopes,
Speaker 9: it's going to be just another thing for fans and
Speaker 9: critics to latch onto and say, how dedicated is he
Speaker 9: to football? How badly does he want to really get
Speaker 9: distractions out? What about minicamp? It's just another thing. And
Speaker 9: the fact that the post could very truthfully put on
Speaker 9: the back page here's what Rogers said, and here's what
Speaker 9: he did, and have all of it be accurate and fair,
Speaker 9: that at the least is a perception problem for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 10: I mean, does it become a distraction, does it become
Speaker 10: a story because we ask about it, right, or does
Speaker 10: it become a distraction and a story or an issue
Speaker 10: inside the building because it's an issue inside the building,
Speaker 10: which I don't sense that it is.
Speaker 8: Well, you think the players are talking about.
Speaker 5: It, players are being asked about it.
Speaker 10: I don't know that players are talking about it like
Speaker 10: as if like where's our quarterback?
Speaker 5: This is a problem. I don't get. I don't get
Speaker 5: that sense.
Speaker 10: I don't And so we sit here and say like, oh,
Speaker 10: it's an issue. It's like a distraction, it's inconsistency, it's
Speaker 10: all these things.
Speaker 5: The only thing that.
Speaker 10: Really matters is if an issue there And as I
Speaker 10: said yesterday, it's only an issue right now in my mind.
Speaker 10: If it's an issue for Rogers that he was basically
Speaker 10: put on blast and that Salah used the word unexcused.
Speaker 5: What you heard that he was asked about, Yeah, I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 10: And I saw the notion that maybe, you know, the
Speaker 10: Jets should have let us know that this was coming.
Speaker 10: Here's the only problem with that. Yeah, the day that
Speaker 10: they do that, it's a story. And then the first
Speaker 10: day of Mini Caamp, there's more cameras, there's more reports
Speaker 10: because everybody knows he's not going to be there, so
Speaker 10: they're there to do the story if him not be
Speaker 10: So that's a two day story, well one day plus
Speaker 10: the start of camp mini camp instead of the start
Speaker 10: of minicamp, which I guess it's technically now a two
Speaker 10: day story because we're still talking about it.
Speaker 1: Well, the other piece of this is the fact that
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers set this up to become an issue. Back
Speaker 1: in January, we're listening to guy played four snaps. As
Speaker 1: we all know, the Jets stumbled, they made multiple quarterback changes.
Speaker 1: They actually won some games early on, but then end
Speaker 1: up finishing seven to ten.
Speaker 2: Rogers comes out, he.
Speaker 1: Lays down the law right after the regular season ends,
Speaker 1: and he says.
Speaker 11: This, if you want to be a winning organization, man
Speaker 11: to put some position to win championships and be competitive,
Speaker 11: everything that you do matters, and that has nothing to
Speaker 11: do with winning needs to get out of the building.
Speaker 11: So that'll be the focus moving forward.
Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome in our Bucky Brooks. Bucky, you
Speaker 1: played in the league, you worked on the scouting sides,
Speaker 1: you've been in front offices. You've seen this from different perspectives.
Speaker 1: What I can't get over is this Aaron Rodgers stands
Speaker 1: there says we've got to get the distractions out of
Speaker 1: the building. Even if you set aside everything over the
Speaker 1: last five months with Aaron Rodgers and political aspirations and
Speaker 1: everything else, this is the very literal definition of a
Speaker 1: distraction mini camp. And you mean this celebration, we're fired
Speaker 1: up about the young guys, we're right a role we're
Speaker 1: peeking before we get this break before training camp. And
Speaker 1: instead the questions that they're facing and Robert saul Is,
Speaker 1: as Mike put it, looks like he just lost. The
Speaker 1: football game is all about the guy who's not on
Speaker 1: the field. In your mind, from your perspective, how much
Speaker 1: does or does this not matter right now?
Speaker 12: Look, it matters now because we're in the middle of
Speaker 12: like with June and there's nothing going on. It doesn't
Speaker 12: matter in the bigger scheme of things. At the end
Speaker 12: of the day, the Jets are going to be judged
Speaker 12: on the way that Aaron Rodgers plays. And so even
Speaker 12: though this is a minor distraction, it's a minor hiccup.
Speaker 12: Aaron Rodgers has to know that if I play well,
Speaker 12: all of this will be forgotten, and so he just
Speaker 12: has to continue to understand that I got to play
Speaker 12: like a four time MVP. If I play at an
Speaker 12: MVP level, the Jets are going to win and all
Speaker 12: of this will be forgiven. But if I don't play well,
Speaker 12: this will be thrown back in my face and it
Speaker 12: will be one of the many distractions that in New
Speaker 12: York jests have faced since he arrives, and so it
Speaker 12: just puts more pressure on him to play at a
Speaker 12: high level.
Speaker 8: But right now it's probably bigger than it.
Speaker 12: Needs to be, just because we don't have any real
Speaker 12: football to talk about.
Speaker 2: We do have mini camps.
Speaker 1: Though this week, Bucket, we we've got players on the
Speaker 1: field practical only a couple more days this and that
Speaker 1: we've got we had that little break in there.
Speaker 2: Before we're seeing anybody out there again. But you know
Speaker 2: who was on the field today, Lamar.
Speaker 1: Jackson and Zay Flowers looking like they did during Lamar's
Speaker 1: MVP season. Hook it up right here to South Florida,
Speaker 1: guys who I'm sure are going to be doing this
Speaker 1: during that break before training camp. Though we're to Lamar
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like everybody is necessarily on board with that plan.
Speaker 10: Have you talked at all a look with the receivers
Speaker 10: A tight ends about getting together for an offseason, either
Speaker 10: for a summer break from a session, means that's something
Speaker 10: that you would like to do.
Speaker 4: I would love to do that.
Speaker 13: You know, some guys don't want to leave a state.
Speaker 13: They're gonna have to come to South Florida. They're gonna
Speaker 13: have to do it. We got to We're trying to
Speaker 13: get to that super Bowl, man, and for us to
Speaker 13: do that, we gotta ground.
Speaker 4: We gotta be a chemisy.
Speaker 1: We can start going down the list of who lives where,
Speaker 1: who might have grown up or gone to college a
Speaker 1: certain place, who might not want to take a longer
Speaker 1: flight to get down there to South Florida.
Speaker 2: As we bring back in.
Speaker 1: Our Mike garfula, I'm not I guys he here, Mike
Speaker 1: in that LaVar is calling anybody out with.
Speaker 2: That particular thing.
Speaker 1: But maybe a little public pressure because you know Lamar
Speaker 1: on the socials, he's gonna be posting everything of those workouts.
Speaker 2: If you're like, hey, you know who's not there. He's
Speaker 2: left the.
Speaker 5: Bread crumbs now for us to figure this thing out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 10: Believe that this was half in jest, but I believe
Speaker 10: that it was also half of Lamar being a leader
Speaker 10: and saying we need to get some work in and
Speaker 10: be on the same page. Now, he wasn't there for
Speaker 10: all of the springs, so you could say, Lamar, practice
Speaker 10: what you preach, right, you should have been there for
Speaker 10: all of the OTAs there. But it is something that
Speaker 10: he's done in the past, wants to do again, and
Speaker 10: wants to have the chemistry with his whiteouts, which he
Speaker 10: seemed like he did have last year in a new
Speaker 10: offense in Todd Munkin's offense. Now you're in year two,
Speaker 10: so I think you're gonna see a little bit even
Speaker 10: more comfortability.
Speaker 5: Plus, when you factor.
Speaker 10: In the defense, they're gonna have to worry about Derrick
Speaker 10: Henry and a power running game as well.
Speaker 5: You think that that should help as well.
Speaker 10: But listen, I'm all for Lamar Jackson, whether it's half
Speaker 10: in jest or serious or whatever, putting some public pressure
Speaker 10: in his guys and saying, hey, yeah, we've got to
Speaker 10: get some work in if we want to get to
Speaker 10: that super Bowl. We've done a great job of getting
Speaker 10: to the playoffs, but if we want to get to
Speaker 10: that Super Bowl, Bucky.
Speaker 5: We got to grind and you got to grind it
Speaker 5: at South Florida heat and humidity.
Speaker 4: Look, Mike, you alluded to it.
Speaker 12: I would probably appreciate those cinemas more if he had
Speaker 12: been there the entire offseason because then they also could
Speaker 12: have built some chemistry while they were working in the
Speaker 12: building in Baltimore. But the pressure really is on Lamar
Speaker 12: Jackson to take his game up another level. He won
Speaker 12: an MVP a season ago. This team played well for
Speaker 12: the majority of the season, laid an egg in the postseason,
Speaker 12: and as they continue to fall short in the postseason,
Speaker 12: more pressure goes to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5: Can he get this team to the next level.
Speaker 12: So I want to see the two time MVP hit
Speaker 12: the ground running from the start. So whatever they need
Speaker 12: to do in training camp to make sure they have
Speaker 12: the necessary chemistry and continuity to play well from the start,
Speaker 12: it needs to happen because all eyes on Lamar Jackson
Speaker 12: and how he gets this offense going very very quickly.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four, we'll.
Speaker 1: See about that chemistry and continuity. One thing bucket we
Speaker 1: know they have is Derrick Henry, a very unique type
Speaker 1: of a player real quick. How do you imagine Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry's presence is going to change the dynamic of that
Speaker 1: Ravens offense.
Speaker 12: Well, if this was the old version of the offense,
Speaker 12: I absolutely would love it because we know they will
Speaker 12: be a very physical down here running team Todd Munkett
Speaker 12: utilizes a different strategy, but Derrick Henry still gives them
Speaker 12: a viable threat, two time rushing champs, someone who can
Speaker 12: close out games. Just the thought of Derrick Henry and
Speaker 12: Lamar Jackson doing some power reads, some option stuff will.
Speaker 5: Make defenses falls. This could be a huge addition for
Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 8: They just need to make sure they.
Speaker 12: Do a good job of managing the load so Dereck
Speaker 12: Henry can be at his best during the last half
Speaker 12: of the season, because if he's healthy and available, he
Speaker 12: and Lamar Jackson could give upon his problems as a
Speaker 12: two headed monster in the backfield.
Speaker 1: AFC North Top to bottom one of the most fascinating
Speaker 1: divisions in for not just because they got the raining
Speaker 1: NFL MVP, because we've got a lot going on right
Speaker 1: now in Pittsford. Mike Tomlin just signed his contract extension
Speaker 1: and they brought in two new quarterbacks, including.
Speaker 2: That guy Russell Wilson. Shocking.
Speaker 1: We've got a great looking photo of russ out there
Speaker 1: on the practice field. He's competing with another guy, Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: who was acquired a course back in March in a
Speaker 1: trade from Chicago. And it's take to say Justin Fields
Speaker 1: has noticed a little bit of a difference.
Speaker 14: Is there a new energy that you get being in
Speaker 14: a different organization, going through mini camp in a different
Speaker 14: way for the first time.
Speaker 15: I think, so, you know, just being around a new team,
Speaker 15: uh uh, an organization.
Speaker 4: That's you know, just just with this culture.
Speaker 15: You know, me being in two different places now, you
Speaker 15: just I realize that, you know, you don't get this
Speaker 15: cultures everywhere. I think Chicago, I think they are, you know,
Speaker 15: kind of changing the narrative now. But I mean this
Speaker 15: has just been the culture here for so many years
Speaker 15: to where I mean, you can see it. It's just
Speaker 15: the way that you know, attack each the other day,
Speaker 15: and I'm coach, he stays honest about it. So I
Speaker 15: think I'm just having that and then reiterating fact each
Speaker 15: and every day that keeps guysing the toes.
Speaker 1: On Guys Day day, we'll set aside these subtexts right
Speaker 1: there of what Justin Fields had to say about Chicago
Speaker 1: that they're starting to figure some things. I can see
Speaker 1: the wheels turning his head like I don't want to
Speaker 1: crush him really hard right now, because it seems like
Speaker 1: everybody's pretty excited about the Bears at this point. But
Speaker 1: ian in Chicago, we know Mike Tomlin has said over
Speaker 1: and over Russell Wilson's in the pole position. Arthur Smith
Speaker 1: reiterated it that Russell Wilson is still in the pole
Speaker 1: position as this thing moves forward. What will you be
Speaker 1: looking for to determine exactly how the Steelers are going
Speaker 1: to use potentially both these quarterbacks come September.
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I'm going to go to kind
Speaker 9: of what Russell Wilson said recently, talked about feeling rejuvenated,
Speaker 9: feeling like he found the fountain of youth, which is
Speaker 9: a very good thing.
Speaker 8: The last couple of years.
Speaker 9: We're no doubt all, and I think he's in a
Speaker 9: much better situation this year on the field, with the
Speaker 9: supporting cast around him, with Arthur Smith, who should be
Speaker 9: a very very good offensive coordinator, just as he was
Speaker 9: before he got the Falcons job.
Speaker 8: So feeling rejuvenated is a good thing, but feeling like.
Speaker 9: He's young again, that to me is one where I
Speaker 9: really do wonder what he means.
Speaker 8: Because, of course, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 9: Was a quarterback who ran around, who scrambled, who scrambled
Speaker 9: to throw, who was really loose to who never got hit,
Speaker 9: seam never got hit hard, was kind of able to
Speaker 9: move as he wanted. He is certainly much older now,
Speaker 9: he is at a different stage in his career, and
Speaker 9: I hope he doesn't mean we are going to see
Speaker 9: the run around Russ that we saw for the first
Speaker 9: let's say decade.
Speaker 8: That to me would be the only thing.
Speaker 9: I would say, Let's just see how this unfolds and
Speaker 9: what version we get of Russell Wilson. I would also say,
Speaker 9: obviously he is in pole position, but Justin Fields is
Speaker 9: very confident and very very serious, and you know, if
Speaker 9: there's a small bit of opening, he is going to
Speaker 9: do everything.
Speaker 8: He possibly can to jump through that.
Speaker 9: These preseason games, even if we sort of think Russ
Speaker 9: is going to be starting Week one, these preseason games
Speaker 9: are going to be really really interesting, especially as it
Speaker 9: relates to Justin Fields.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Mike Tomon likes to use these preseason games to
Speaker 10: kind of get a feel for the regular season and
Speaker 10: a feel for the atmosphere that these guys.
Speaker 5: Are going to face.
Speaker 10: So you know he'll be using those games to evaluate
Speaker 10: how these guys, both of them respond to it, how
Speaker 10: they perform. And justin Field is certainly capable of making
Speaker 10: wold plays, So if he makes a few of those
Speaker 10: in those preseason games, it'll give us some conversation topics
Speaker 10: here on the insiders to have here.
Speaker 5: But in Russell Wilson's case, feeling revived.
Speaker 10: I just every time I look at this, and when
Speaker 10: you have conversations with people in Pittsburgh and around Pittsburgh
Speaker 10: and around the team, you get the sense that there's
Speaker 10: a lot of positivity, and maybe he didn't have that
Speaker 10: the last couple of years. So when you feel the revived,
Speaker 10: this is the guy early in his career and Pete
Speaker 10: Carroll and he vibed in a lot of ways, and
Speaker 10: Carol loved to preach to positivity. I think he's feeling
Speaker 10: that more than anything right now. So that's that feeling
Speaker 10: of love and a feeling of a preciation and the
Speaker 10: feeling of being lifted up. So I can't imagine a
Speaker 10: better scenario for Russell Wilson, at least from that standpoint
Speaker 10: than what he is experiencing right now in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I'm going through the schedule of twenty one live preseason
Speaker 1: games on NFL Network. August ninth, Texans at Steelers, August seventeenth,
Speaker 1: Bills at Steelers, and August twenty fourth, Steelers at Lines.
Speaker 2: What do you know? You're going to see every.
Speaker 1: Single snap the Russell Wilson Justin Field's take in the
Speaker 1: preseason right here on this channel. You're also about to
Speaker 1: see this. The Steelers hosted their inaugural steel Hers event,
Speaker 1: presented by upmc McGee Women's Hospital as part of their
Speaker 1: Women of Steel platform, which unites women who share passion
Speaker 1: for the Black and Gold. The event includes on field
Speaker 1: drills with players like Calvin Austin, a Q and A
Speaker 1: with Troy and Theodora Paulamalou, locker room tours, and a
Speaker 1: whole lot more. Looks like a ton of fun there
Speaker 1: inside the Steelers stadium coming up after this, So much
Speaker 1: more to go on this episode of The Insiders.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Packers.
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, one of the hottest quarterbacks in all the
Speaker 1: football down the stretch that last season. Can he build
Speaker 1: on it in his second full year as the starter?
Speaker 1: Are Staceydale's Bucky Brooks help us break it down? Right
Speaker 1: after this on The Insiders, how about some dance moves
Speaker 1: from the quad father himself. That's aj Dillon out there
Speaker 1: at the mandatory medi camp today.
Speaker 2: He's got a couple of new.
Speaker 1: Running mates, Josh Jacobs and third round pick Marshawn Lloyd.
Speaker 1: A very interesting young team in Green Bay that finished
Speaker 1: last season very much on the rise. I still got
Speaker 1: the same running mates that I do so often right
Speaker 1: here on this show. Tom Pilisaro back with Bucky Brooks,
Speaker 1: So welcome in our friend Stacy Dale's as well. Stacy,
Speaker 1: you talk to a lot of people in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: We know the arrow is definitely pointing up on Jordan
Speaker 1: Love at the end of last season. It's going to
Speaker 1: show in the contract that he has said he expects
Speaker 1: to get.
Speaker 2: Before training camp.
Speaker 1: From what you're hearing, second full year as the starter
Speaker 1: in this offseason, how's Love?
Speaker 2: How's that offense coming along?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 14: I would tell you, guys, I think the word that
Speaker 14: I'm taking away from this offseason is maturity With Jordan Love.
Speaker 14: You know, this is a very young team and both
Speaker 14: sides of the football really and Jordan Love, we forget
Speaker 14: he's really entering his fifth year, which is why he'll
Speaker 14: get that extension. We think here before training camp, Tom
Speaker 14: as you alluded to. But you know, he has been
Speaker 14: extremely diligent, based upon what I've learned in Green Bay,
Speaker 14: with his preparation heading into his second year as starter,
Speaker 14: despite really being the veteran of this offense. I would
Speaker 14: also say he's been very intentional in terms of what
Speaker 14: he wants to improve upon, honing in on where he
Speaker 14: wants to go with the football to this bevy of receivers,
Speaker 14: this bevy of young receivers on the outside, and specifically
Speaker 14: focusing on his pocket movement, really condensing that pocket movement
Speaker 14: in terms of his footwork becoming more efficient. But when
Speaker 14: he does make the decision to break pocket, and yes
Speaker 14: there's really no pads obviously at this stage, to be
Speaker 14: very intentional with how he breaks the pocket, specifically to
Speaker 14: the right, and you know recently when we heard him
Speaker 14: talk this week, getting his shoulders and his body downhill
Speaker 14: and not drifting.
Speaker 2: That's why Bucky I use.
Speaker 14: The word intentional. And there's Obviously, there's a lot of
Speaker 14: talk about who's going to be the number one receiver.
Speaker 4: It's been a big point.
Speaker 14: Of argumentation, if you will, perhaps amongst those that follow
Speaker 14: these Packers, I would say, Bucky, any one of these
Speaker 14: guys could be the number one and have an emergent
Speaker 14: season with Jordan Love in this offense, I think they
Speaker 14: can be extremely explosive in Green Bay.
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Stacy.
Speaker 5: This offense can be very explosive.
Speaker 12: And I got to see it going back to my
Speaker 12: time with the Packers in the mid nineties, this has
Speaker 12: always been an organization that believe that you don't necessarily
Speaker 12: need a number one receiver, that the offense is really
Speaker 12: predicated on a level quarterback playing it in the system
Speaker 12: that can evlate the playmakers around him. When when I
Speaker 12: look at this version of the Packers, Jordan Love certainly
Speaker 12: is an a level quarterback. He has weapons around him
Speaker 12: that within this system they can't thrive and flourish as
Speaker 12: co number ones or interchangeable number ones, however you want
Speaker 12: to dub them. But this is all about Jordan Love
Speaker 12: his steady improvement as a quarterback since entering the league.
Speaker 2: The Packers are ready.
Speaker 4: To go to the next level.
Speaker 12: And a big reason is because Jordan Love is the
Speaker 12: real deal.
Speaker 2: And as he grows.
Speaker 12: Comfortable and as he begins to kind of put his
Speaker 12: own imprint on this offense, I think you go see
Speaker 12: the other playmakers around him rise to that level and
Speaker 12: he is going to be someone that we celebrate because
Speaker 12: the playmakers certainly have the talent to get it done.
Speaker 12: And it's one of the things that the Packers have
Speaker 12: done for the last thirty years, which is why they
Speaker 12: have always been a relevant team when it comes to
Speaker 12: being a title contender.
Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, Stacy Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: had to make maybe the hardest decision he's had to
Speaker 1: make as a head coach, moving on from one of
Speaker 1: his good friends, Joe Barry, the defensive coordinator after the
Speaker 1: end of last season. He brings in a guy in
Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley, who I've gotten to know because he was
Speaker 1: coaching at my alma mater, n Ttill he took this
Speaker 1: decordinator job in Green Bay. He's got a very good mind.
Speaker 1: He's a different type of a presence. What is this
Speaker 1: actually going to look like on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball in Green Bay?
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's such a good question, Tom, and you know,
Speaker 14: obviously came from Boston College, but he just spent so
Speaker 14: many years right in the NFL as primarily a defensive
Speaker 14: backs coach. And I think what I've learned about Jeff
Speaker 14: Halfley and you guys know this, he has a very
Speaker 14: aggressive mentality. Obviously there's a shift to a four to
Speaker 14: three base defense, but generally speaking, I mean even Jordan
Speaker 14: Love talked about it. You're going to see some semblance
Speaker 14: of what the San Francisco forty nine ers, which is
Speaker 14: somewhere Jeff Halfley stopped in his coaching career in the
Speaker 14: NFL and Seattle Seahawks, And I actually thought it was
Speaker 14: very interesting. The veteran Preston Smith and his sort of
Speaker 14: media scrum recently talked about Richard. He contacted Richard Sherman,
Speaker 14: who spent a season with Halfley in San Francisco I
Speaker 14: believe it was twenty eighteen, and had nothing but a
Speaker 14: fusive praise for what he brings to the table and
Speaker 14: how he puts his players in position to be successful.
Speaker 14: Rashan Gary recently saying this is a pin your ears
Speaker 14: back type of approach with him. I think you're going
Speaker 14: to see a lot more pressure up front, and I
Speaker 14: think you're going to see a defensive backgroup and room
Speaker 14: that is extremely competitive. It's all about ball and that
Speaker 14: aggressive mindset is a shift that I think Brian Gudukunst
Speaker 14: is very pleased with. I remember asking him this offseason
Speaker 14: what he sensed with the change, not only in scheme
Speaker 14: but with the defensive coordinator, and his response was, it's
Speaker 14: going to be a big play style difference in terms
Speaker 14: of what Halfley brings to the table.
Speaker 10: I think that.
Speaker 14: Should excite Packers fans in ash Wobanon.
Speaker 1: Stacy Bucky, thank you very much. We will talk to
Speaker 1: you again soon. Packers. Of course, we're that close to
Speaker 1: knocking off the forty nine ers, potentially getting them and
Speaker 1: moving on where they want to face. This team they
Speaker 1: got all the way to the super Bowl, the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs.
Speaker 2: They had a lot to celebrate.
Speaker 1: They've been doing it this week, but could one of
Speaker 1: their key players soon walk away?
Speaker 2: It's not Calas Swift.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, We'll talk about it next on The Insiders.
Speaker 1: The two time defending Super Bowl champs on the field
Speaker 1: for mandatory mini camp this week. Can they make it
Speaker 1: a three peat and if they do, could Travis Kelcey
Speaker 1: potentially walk away one.
Speaker 2: Of his best teammates. Chris Jones sure hopes not.
Speaker 8: Thomas is up to your escup talking about that he
Speaker 8: knew that at the end of his career was coming
Speaker 8: sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4: I know he's got a few years on. You don't
Speaker 4: like that kind of talk to you, But he's retiring
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 16: What do you mean once you begin to think about
Speaker 16: the it's like that you're getting a feed demand those
Speaker 16: type of doughts. I don't even want my mone to
Speaker 16: even go there far to the R word. But Trail,
Speaker 16: he's pretty old. I'm just playing Trav I love you,
Speaker 16: but no man, Trail, he got like four or five
Speaker 16: more years. And what is he ben talking about retirement for.
Speaker 16: I mean, you know, we can't let a tkse hold go.
Speaker 16: It's like, if we retire, we got to retire together.
Speaker 16: Give me like at least six years, then we'll talk
Speaker 16: about it.
Speaker 1: I can listen to Chris Jones just talk about anything
Speaker 1: for an hour. Everything that comes out of his mouth
Speaker 1: is pure gold, even if some of it not necessarily
Speaker 1: NFL Network appropriate. Welcome back to the Inside of Town.
Speaker 1: Pella Sero joined now by our friend Jeffrey Chadia, who
Speaker 1: is there in Kansas City. Travis Kelcey certainly made some
Speaker 1: news with his comments talking about, hey, he's still leaving
Speaker 1: it all on the field, but he knows the end
Speaker 1: is coming in the not too distant future. Here when
Speaker 1: Kelsey looks at this team, when others look at this
Speaker 1: Chiefs team, they see some new pass catchers.
Speaker 2: What's the word on those guys so far?
Speaker 4: They do?
Speaker 17: They see Marquise Brown, and they see Xavier Worthy of
Speaker 17: the first round pick, and Travis Kelcey sees their potential.
Speaker 17: He talked about this yesterday when he was talking about
Speaker 17: retirement and how his career is winding down, and he
Speaker 17: says that he really loves they have talent, but he
Speaker 17: loves the kind of people that they are. They've come
Speaker 17: in here, they've listened, they've been coachable. They fit into
Speaker 17: the culture immediately. And think Kelsey knows that speed is
Speaker 17: going to bode well for him this year. You know,
Speaker 17: Andy Reid has talked about possibly managing his usage rate
Speaker 17: because he's getting up there, going to be thirty five
Speaker 17: years old this coming October.
Speaker 4: But Kelsey said he wants that pressure.
Speaker 17: But he also wants his offense to take off again,
Speaker 17: and he knows having these two guys this speed.
Speaker 4: Is going to open up things for him underneath. Once again, they.
Speaker 1: Got weapons and other positions to Isaiah. Piceco sets the
Speaker 1: tone as well as anybody his size that I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in the NFL, and it sounds like he feels
Speaker 1: pretty good about the work.
Speaker 2: He's been able to get in this offseason too.
Speaker 17: He is because he's actually had a full offseason actually work.
Speaker 17: You know, the last pass last offseason, he was actually
Speaker 17: dealing with a shoulder injury, shoulder surgery, so he couldn't
Speaker 17: be out there, and he actually talked about how this
Speaker 17: year it's a nice thing not to have that gold
Speaker 17: jersey on and where people can't touch you and you
Speaker 17: feel like you're a quarterback. And Litill not as running
Speaker 17: back like as he would like to be. But as
Speaker 17: you mentioned, he's down about two hundred and six pounds.
Speaker 17: He likes to play around two eight two oh nine.
Speaker 17: Wants to be faster since is going to be his
Speaker 17: third year in this offense, so he's going to get
Speaker 17: a lot more run because he knows pack protection better.
Speaker 4: Keep in mind he averaged twenty.
Speaker 17: Carries during the postseason, and so as much as this
Speaker 17: office is about Mahomes and Kelsey and these speedy receivers,
Speaker 17: he's going to once again be a big part of
Speaker 17: what they do and the success that they have.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey, thank you very much. Look forward to talking to
Speaker 1: you again soon. Four super Bowl trips for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and the Patrick Mahomes era, He's won three of them.
Speaker 1: The only guy to get the better of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: happens to be a guest right here on The Insiders
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. That's right, It is a show fit for
Speaker 1: a goat. Tom Brady is going to join us on
Speaker 1: The Insiders. At this very moment, he's addressing the crowd
Speaker 1: in Foxborough getting inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I imagine the appearance on The Insiders is going to have
Speaker 1: pretty much the same emotional impact on him, don't you think, Mike.
Speaker 5: I mean, the questions we've got for him. I can't wait.
Speaker 10: There's Matthew Stafford throwing a past or in the Rams
Speaker 10: mandatory mini camp. Sean McVay expecting that Stafford is going
Speaker 10: to do that when training camp begins next month. Why
Speaker 10: would we even have that discussion, Why would we even
Speaker 10: be talking about that possibility?
Speaker 5: Ian rappap for it. It's because of money. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's often what we talk about when it comes to
Speaker 5: the show. How you doing.
Speaker 10: Matthew Stafford under contract for three more years at thirty one,
Speaker 10: thirty two and thirty one million dollars, so ninety four
Speaker 10: million dollars over the next three years.
Speaker 5: If my math is correct, it's pretty simple. It better be.
Speaker 10: It should be actually scored higher on matth than verbal
Speaker 10: and the SAT if you could believe that. But with Stafford,
Speaker 10: despite the fact that he's been under contract for three
Speaker 10: years and this year guaranteed, he's looking at some.
Speaker 5: Of these other numbers.
Speaker 10: Are these quarterbacks going around that are almost double this
Speaker 10: and pretty soon will be double that?
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I don't even know that that's the real
Speaker 9: important part for Matthew Stafford. I'm sure he wants to
Speaker 9: be paid more. Everybody in the world wants to be
Speaker 9: paid more. The issue here, from my understanding, is guaranteed money.
Speaker 9: And Matthew Stafford has his salary for this year guaranteed
Speaker 9: after that, You're right, thirty two million, thirty one million,
Speaker 9: but none guaranteed. And look, this is a guy who
Speaker 9: did have an elble issue a year ago. I think
Speaker 9: a lot of people were wondering, is this the end
Speaker 9: for Matthew Stafford?
Speaker 8: Are the Rams going to draft a quarterback? There's a
Speaker 8: lot of that going on.
Speaker 9: Then he went down and had a year where he
Speaker 9: really looked like the old Matthew Stafford. Four thousand yards,
Speaker 9: twenty four touchdown, really put a really young team on
Speaker 9: his back, and it sounds to me like just once
Speaker 9: to know that he is going to be back, wants
Speaker 9: you to know that his spot on the roster is secure
Speaker 9: and that he is appreciated. Good thing for him, that
Speaker 9: it's good for the team. I should say that he's
Speaker 9: not going to sit out of training camp, He's not
Speaker 9: going to hold up.
Speaker 8: All of those things.
Speaker 9: But there is still a contractual issue that does need
Speaker 9: to be solved for a guy who has beens want
Speaker 9: to shoot bowl with the Rams and who's been unbelievably
Speaker 9: important to the resurgence.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this seems like it's fixable.
Speaker 10: He's thirty six years old, which used to be old
Speaker 10: for a quarterback, but not so much. You heard Tom
Speaker 10: talk about Tom Brady playing.
Speaker 5: Well into his forties. Not to say that Matthew Stafford
Speaker 5: is going to.
Speaker 10: Do that, but it's reasonable to believe he's got three,
Speaker 10: four or five potentially good years left in his body.
Speaker 10: Had that elbow issue, but was able to work his
Speaker 10: way through that. I thought that that was going to
Speaker 10: be the point at which he started the tail off,
Speaker 10: but he and the team and the trainers and the
Speaker 10: medical staff and.
Speaker 5: Everybody that he works with was able to work.
Speaker 10: Through that issue and show again that he's got some
Speaker 10: good football left in his arm. So again this feels fixable.
Speaker 10: Nice little bump. Some guaranteed money, you know, the Ian
Speaker 10: Rappaport tree, they give you that yet, I don't know.
Speaker 10: We'll see working on that as well. We expect you
Speaker 10: for the start of training camp, buddy. We also expect
Speaker 10: Marvin Harrison Junior for the Cardinals start. I'm gonna start,
Speaker 10: excuse me, of the Cardinals training camp, and he's been
Speaker 10: putting on a show. It sounds like in the spring already.
Speaker 10: We're going to talk to the general manager who drafted it.
Speaker 10: Monty Austin Fort joins the insiders.
Speaker 1: After that, Cardinals Mini camp rolling on on a day that,
Speaker 1: according to the various weather apps high temperature around one
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven degrees out there. They practice in the morning,
Speaker 1: so it's not that bad, but certainly sweating it out
Speaker 1: before they head on to their summer break. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Insiders, Tom pilisero Ian Roudport, joined right now
Speaker 1: by the general manager of that football team. It is
Speaker 1: Monty Ostinport.
Speaker 2: Monty.
Speaker 1: First of all, thank you very much for being here today.
Speaker 1: We saw a little bit of Marvin Harrison Junior in
Speaker 1: that clip. We just you did all the homework, you
Speaker 1: watched all the tape, you did all the interviews. When
Speaker 1: you actually see him out on the field in the
Speaker 1: Cardinals uniform right now, what's your reaction.
Speaker 7: Thanks guys, thanks for having me on. You know, it's exciting.
Speaker 7: It's exciting to get Marvin out there, as it is
Speaker 7: for all of our rookies to get out there. You know,
Speaker 7: it's been a good month here, month and a half
Speaker 7: since we last had the draft, and it's been good
Speaker 7: to get these guys in our building, get them accustomed
Speaker 7: to what we do here, get them to meet their
Speaker 7: new teammates, and we got a lot of good work
Speaker 7: in here the last six weeks. So you know, we
Speaker 7: got to talk a positive step this spring, and you know,
Speaker 7: we're looking forward to taking a little bit of a
Speaker 7: break and then getting back here rolling for training camp.
Speaker 7: But it's been an exciting time for our rookies here
Speaker 7: getting on the field with us for the first time.
Speaker 9: You know, Monty, one of the coolest things is you
Speaker 9: guys spend all this time on research. You have all
Speaker 9: the interviews, do all the visits, all the tape and
Speaker 9: all that, and then guys actually get into your facility
Speaker 9: and sometimes you find out things that maybe you didn't know.
Speaker 8: And you talked about Marvin very nicely.
Speaker 9: There's a big draft class obviously, another first runner, and
Speaker 9: Darius Robinson as well. What have you seen of some
Speaker 9: of the other guys not named Marvin Harrison Junior? And
Speaker 9: then had there been any surprises, maybe pleasant surprises with
Speaker 9: some of these rookies you brought in.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think I think with anything we put,
Speaker 7: we put a lot of time. Like you said, we
Speaker 7: put a lot of time in the interviews and our
Speaker 7: scouts on watching tape, and so you know, you really
Speaker 7: we try to get as much information as we possibly can.
Speaker 7: But until we actually get people in our building and
Speaker 7: work with them on a day to day basis that
Speaker 7: you know, we really don't don't know the person. You know,
Speaker 7: we we think we do, but until we get them
Speaker 7: here and and work with them, like, we don't truly know.
Speaker 7: So it's been great to get them here in the building.
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's it's fun. You you spend a
Speaker 7: lot of time with these guys and the and they're
Speaker 7: in interview mode, but you actually get to know guys
Speaker 7: can be themselves, let their guard down a little bit.
Speaker 7: You get to know a sense of humor, and so,
Speaker 7: you know, all of our guys just finding their role,
Speaker 7: finding their niche on the team and getting getting a
Speaker 7: custom and learning their new teammates. That's that's been a
Speaker 7: cool process and that's that really has begun here these
Speaker 7: last six weeks and then are really going full force
Speaker 7: once we get into training Camp Monty.
Speaker 9: Last year, at this time, there were some questions, I
Speaker 9: think publicly not as much in your building, but certainly
Speaker 9: publicly about Kyler Murray, the future of Kyler, How much
Speaker 9: would he play, would he even play at all? That
Speaker 9: was actually something that was certainly publicly, not saying in
Speaker 9: your building, but publicly being discussed. Then he goes out
Speaker 9: and certainly shows flashes of being the Kyler that we
Speaker 9: have all seen for the past several years. Now that
Speaker 9: he is back with the whole offseason, he's going to
Speaker 9: have the whole training camp. What else is there out
Speaker 9: there for Kyler and how much will that benefit him
Speaker 9: just having being able to be available.
Speaker 7: For the entire process. Yeah, I and I think that's huge.
Speaker 7: I think it's absolutely huge. I mean, I think you
Speaker 7: know one thing that's that's overlooked is, yeah, Kyler had
Speaker 7: a lot on his plate last year in terms of
Speaker 7: rehabing and and getting his knee ready, and then you know,
Speaker 7: also learning a new offense, learning new coaches, learning new teammates,
Speaker 7: and so you know what's lost is that last year
Speaker 7: when a lot of that team building was taking place,
Speaker 7: and the reps were being put in in the spring
Speaker 7: and the rest were being put in in training camp, well,
Speaker 7: the time when the team has the time to not
Speaker 7: focus on an opponent and just focus on our own
Speaker 7: selves internally, Kyler had a lot of other things to
Speaker 7: concentrate on, namely with his rehab and his health, and
Speaker 7: so for him to be able to be with the
Speaker 7: team this entire offseason, to be able to grow in
Speaker 7: the offense, to be able to grow in his leadership role,
Speaker 7: to be able to get to know his teammates, both
Speaker 7: old and new. That's been huge. It's been huge for
Speaker 7: the team. It's been huge for Kyler. It's been a
Speaker 7: role that he's embraced and taken it and ran with
Speaker 7: and so we're excited about him continuing to do that
Speaker 7: here as we move forward, and that'll really keep going
Speaker 7: once we get into training camp. But you know, I
Speaker 7: think that's an important part for any teammate, especially at
Speaker 7: the quarterback position, and it's one that we think Kyler
Speaker 7: can has really race and one that he's going to
Speaker 7: continue to grow with.
Speaker 1: And I know you've had your hands kind of full
Speaker 1: with football stuff, you know, through the majority of the
Speaker 1: past several months here, but I do also want to
Speaker 1: ask you about the Civics Matter Arizona program, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: partnering up with the governor, among others, sending a bunch
Speaker 1: of students to Washington, DC.
Speaker 5: It sounds like a cool program. Tell me about it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Tom, it's it's a really cool program. You know,
Speaker 7: this is the third year that our owner, Michael Bidwell
Speaker 7: has done this, and you know, this year they have.
Speaker 7: I think it's upwards of two hundred and seventy five
Speaker 7: kids that are that are leaving, that left Arizona here
Speaker 7: the other day, and and get on the team plane,
Speaker 7: the same plane that we used to go to play
Speaker 7: all of our road games. And for some of these kids,
Speaker 7: it's the first time they've ever been on an airplane.
Speaker 7: And then to go to you know, one of the
Speaker 7: greatest cities in our country, Washington, d C. And to
Speaker 7: see all kinds of sites that have experiences to uh,
Speaker 7: to sit down at the Senate and meet some of
Speaker 7: the leaders at Arizona. I mean, it is a It
Speaker 7: is a cool program that Michael has put together. It
Speaker 7: is a great experience for these kids. And you know,
Speaker 7: I'm anxious for my daughters to get old enough to
Speaker 7: take part in this. But it is a really really
Speaker 7: cool program that Michael has done and really an experience
Speaker 7: that that these students will will not soon forget. So
Speaker 7: it's awesome that the Cardinals have been able to sponsor
Speaker 7: this and to continue to continue this and just a
Speaker 7: really great experience for those students.
Speaker 8: Hang on, was Michael flying the plane or did they
Speaker 8: get the experience.
Speaker 7: That Michael actually was not flying this this specific plane.
Speaker 7: I'm sure he could, and he'd be a great He's
Speaker 7: a great guy to have on board in case anything
Speaker 7: went went down, because I know he'd be able to
Speaker 7: handle it. But this specific route, he was not behind
Speaker 7: the controls of this this.
Speaker 1: Flight, Bonnie, thanks a lot, Man. Make sure you get
Speaker 1: some rest over these next six weeks. Before you know it,
Speaker 1: me and Ian will be down there in Tempe sweating
Speaker 1: it out with you.
Speaker 8: I'm sure let's go.
Speaker 7: Hey, we'll turn the heat up for you, guys. You
Speaker 7: guys are welcome anytime, but enjoy summer, get some downtime,
Speaker 7: and we'll have a nice and toasty for you come July.
Speaker 7: And so come on out.
Speaker 2: God who will appreciate it?
Speaker 7: Man, I appreciate it, Thanks guys.
Speaker 1: MANI ausin port one of Minnesota's finest. Meanwhile, there's officially
Speaker 1: a QB one on the depth chart in Minnesota, at
Speaker 1: least for the moment, and it might not be who
Speaker 1: you think. We'll break it down right after this on
Speaker 1: The Insiders. Tom Brady honored week one last year before
Speaker 1: the Patriots game tonight, being honored again by his induction
Speaker 1: into the Patriots Hall of Fame. We'll honor him one
Speaker 1: more time. We welcome into the Insiders family.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow seven pm Eastern Time.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady coming on talking about young quarterbacks within the NFL,
Speaker 1: talking about his new broadcasting career a whole lot more.
Speaker 1: It'll be the goat of shows. Don't miss it Thursday night.
Speaker 1: That's tomorrow, seven pm Eastern Time. Tom Horse wrapped up
Speaker 1: his career down there with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, was
Speaker 1: succeeded by Baker Mayfield, who I'm sure was on the
Speaker 1: throwing end of that catch by Mike Evans right there.
Speaker 1: Baker also and his wife Emily, welcomed a daughter into
Speaker 1: the world earlier this year. Sounds like a big Father's
Speaker 1: Day weekend ahead for Baker.
Speaker 4: Speaking, good time off. You get to celebrate your first
Speaker 4: Father's Day. It's the weekend any planned, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: Maybe you're around a golf probably just watching golf on TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds basically like the in Rappaport plan I
Speaker 1: believe as well. So that is that a pretty close match.
Speaker 1: You already got the shirt on.
Speaker 9: I mean US Open is this week and it just
Speaker 9: happens to be on Father's Day weekend. Like there'll be
Speaker 9: some lovely family time. Will have a great dinner. But
Speaker 9: will I tape the US open, make sure nobody talks
Speaker 9: about who wins, and then sit and watch it by myself.
Speaker 8: Maybe it's definitely possible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, another family time on Father's Day?
Speaker 10: Or is it your day? That's the key question. It
Speaker 10: never winds up being your day. Like Father's Day is
Speaker 10: not a thing. So you got to ask for a
Speaker 10: period of time. How much time? About that much time?
Speaker 10: That's what I'm asking for right there? That is a
Speaker 10: l Seti seventh Father's Day El Septimo, my seventh Father's Day.
Speaker 10: Bought a Chelli Sacred Arts Collection. This is an amazing
Speaker 10: stick right here. That's all right, Hello, this is just
Speaker 10: this much right here?
Speaker 4: Got me?
Speaker 2: They can't hear me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like your kids probably they probably you know, painted mugs
Speaker 1: for you or you know there's like a mouse pad
Speaker 1: or something. You should actually ask him for the best
Speaker 1: gift of all being quiet during the A block.
Speaker 2: You heard that?
Speaker 14: Huh?
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if you heard it.
Speaker 1: It's not Father's Day, every a block every day only
Speaker 1: for Father's by on the show Mike McDonald too tomorrow,
Speaker 1: Big Father be there