1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: I caught my son hooking up with my brother's wife, 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: and then it's somehow got worse. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: I decided to join in. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: I forty four female, walked in on my son, eighteen male, 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: hooking up with my sister in law thirty four female, 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: who is my brother's wife, in a cabin, and I 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: think they have been doing it for a while. My brother, 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: thirty seven male, moved in with us in February with 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: his wife and two children. My husband, forty four male, 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: and I have a big house on a farm. My 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: husband is a farmer and everyone was working from home, 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: so we thought it would be a good chance to 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: stay together as a family for my nieces to spend 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: time on the farm. 15 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: Now. 16 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: I have three children and all of them live with us. 17 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Oldest is eighteen male, and the other two are sixteen 18 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: female and thirteen female. 19 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: On the day my brother arrived, I wanted to get. 20 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Groceries with my son, and we went to the pharmacy 21 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: to get his gym supplements, and I bought the grocery food. 22 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: His gym supplements. He's probably a beefcake, this eighteen year old. 23 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just lifted you like this brother's wife, 24 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: like these these guns. 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: He's just like, oh, look at that. You guess a 26 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: little definition there. He's just sitting outside of the family's room. 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw some protection in my 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: son's plastic bag. 29 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 2: Huh. I saw them when we arrived at the house. 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Two packs of thirty six each, so seventy two in total. 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: I mean that's a lot. Hey, what else are you 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: gonna do during COVID? What else are you gonna do 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: with a cabin in the woods. 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: He's laying it down apparently. 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's laying built z own bug. I didn't think 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: anything of it. I thought he had just gotten a 37 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: girlfriend and wanted to be safe. Everything was fine, and 38 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: everyone got along. My sister in Lawn's son would go 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: in an early run around the farm, and everything seemed 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: totally normal until oh gosh last month when they left 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: their run. But I was baking and I never saw 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: them make the rounds around them, which was weird. You know, 43 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: they're not they're not running the usual path. Yeah, you know, 44 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: maybe they they found a new Strava. 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: You know, running guy. 46 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: There's plenty of Strava running guys. You know they're they're 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: exploring something else. Yeah, Uh, like I asked them about it, 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: and they just said they decided to hit the road. 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: My sister in law and son seemed to have a 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: very good bond. Yesterday, I came home from a friend's 51 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: house early in the morning and the sun wasn't up 52 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: yet and it was a little dark. But I saw 53 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: the cabin that we had on the farm was open 54 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: and the light was on. I thought maybe one of 55 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: the employees had just forgotten to lock it up, so 56 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: I went to close the door and switch off the light. 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: But as I got closer, Oh no, I heard people 58 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: doing it, and I took a peek and I discovered 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: it was my son and sister in law. Oh no, 60 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: what does she say? 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: Room for one more? 62 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: Done? 63 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: You started it? You started? 64 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: I would never say anything like that. Roll it back, 65 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: roll back, And somehow it got worse. I decided to 66 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: join in. Now you want to know what the OP did? 67 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: What did OP do? 68 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: I didn't confront them because I was so in shock. 69 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Now I still haven't told anyone what I saw, and 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Should I confront them? 71 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Should I tell my brother? Should I tell my husband? 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: I am so confused. You could definitely tell your brother, 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: bro yes, family before the hose. I've been doing a 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: lot of thinking, and I'm sure that they've been doing 75 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: it for a while. My son was always at the 76 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: house and never brought over a girlfriend. And the morning 77 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: runs around the farm. Do they really go on the 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: run or are they just doing it the close relationship, 79 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: et cetera. There's a lot of evidence stacking up. Yeah, 80 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: they've been doing it for ages. But there's something else. Sam, 81 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: tell me there's an update. 82 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: There's an update? Well, really quick? She should tell the 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: brother for sure, right, yes? She should. 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: First want to thank everyone for the advice I got 85 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: in the original post. 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 2: I'll try to keep this update short. 87 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: As was suggested by many of the comments, I decided 88 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: to tell my husband first and proceed from there. My 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: husband lost it at first. He thought it was a joke, 90 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: which is reasonable because that's a crazy thing to happen. 91 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: We talked about the issue, and we decided that we 92 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: should first talk to our son before talking to my brother. 93 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: We confronted our son with what I saw. He already 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: knew what was going on because he saw my Reddit 95 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: post and put to a dow together. 96 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Yo. 97 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 3: Wow, his heart must have sunk when he read that 98 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: Reddit post. 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: He did not deny anything. He told us him and 100 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: the sister in law have been doing it since last 101 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: February while he was still seventeen. 102 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: Yikes, yikes. 103 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: My brother said it started on the sister in law's birthday. 104 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: He attended where they got wasted and started doing it 105 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: in the bathroom, and they've been having meetings at hotels 106 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: and sneaking off at family gatherings ever since. After my 107 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: son's confession, my husband just lost it and told my 108 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: son to leave the house and go to our condo 109 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: in town, as he didn't want to see him in 110 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: front of him. At this moment, when my son was gone, 111 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: my husband stormed into my brother's room and told my 112 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: brother everything wow. And at this moment, the sister in 113 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: law was not at the house. My brother lost it, 114 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: packed his stuff and took the kids. They know they 115 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: have kids, and left. He asked where my son had 116 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: gone and said he wanted to teach him a lesson. 117 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: Man, this is some country justice. We didn't tell. 118 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: Him and he eventually left. Sister in law didn't return. 119 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: I think my brother might have called her or my 120 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: son warned her, and she's afraid to come back. Her 121 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: things are still at the house. In all the screaming 122 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: and shouting. My daughter's heard everything and are devastated that 123 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: their family might be ruined. And they missed their brother 124 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: and are afraid my husband won't ever let him in 125 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: the house again. My husband hates all forms of infidelity 126 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: to the core and has always drilled us into our 127 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: two eldest heads that they must never cheat on anyone 128 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: or be in a relationship with someone else in a relationship. 129 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: I know I did nothing wrong in this, but how 130 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: will I ever look my brother in the eye again. 131 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: He won't answer calls or texts. My husband said I 132 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: should just leave him, give him time to heal. My 133 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: son has left a condo because he's afraid of what 134 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: my brother will do to him. 135 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: Dang. They they're on site with it, like this is crazy. 136 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: And he's now hiding in a friend's house and he 137 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: won't tell us which friend. 138 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: No word on the sister in law. 139 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: How to fuck up your family one oh one? I mean, 140 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: there is no more effective method, No, no, no, this 141 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: this really go You go nuclear? You know, if you 142 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: want to destroy your family, that's how you do it. 143 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: I don't think OP did anything wrong, It's just such 144 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: a fucking hard situation. She fallout sucked. 145 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: She was handed the you know, the flaming bag of cramwich, 146 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's like, literally like what again, 147 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: what else can you do? Had you had to tell 148 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: him it's not a good. 149 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: Situation, not not at all. 150 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: If you thought this was crazy, check out this one 151 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: where Opie finds out they're dating their brother.