WEBVTT - Andrew Cuomo Says This Will Be a Two-Person Race

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get out to a conversation now with

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<v Speaker 2>former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo on the state of

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<v Speaker 2>New York City's mayoral race, and he is speaking to

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg's David.

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<v Speaker 3>Gera him up twenty five points to you. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a four candidate race. How do you see the

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<v Speaker 3>path forward here given the polling and sort of where

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<v Speaker 3>things stand. I should note that the polling hasn't changed

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<v Speaker 3>a tremendous amount in recent weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it will change dramatically. What you see in the

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<v Speaker 1>polls is, Mam Damie is always about forty percent. That

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<v Speaker 1>leaves sixty percent. As you accurately pointed out, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a multi candidate field, so four people or three people

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<v Speaker 1>who are breaking up that sixty percent. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to wind up ultimately with that larger field.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the field is going to collapse. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to come down to me versus mister Maumbani.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I said, Mam Donnie has forty percent. His

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<v Speaker 1>very radical ideas which are exciting to one group of

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<v Speaker 1>the population, especially young people, but are polarizing to many

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<v Speaker 1>other people. Uh, And I think it's going to come

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<v Speaker 1>down to a one on one and then it is

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different race.

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<v Speaker 3>Curtisily with the Republican candidate says he's not dropping out.

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<v Speaker 3>The incumbent mayor Eric Adam says he's not dropping out.

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<v Speaker 3>We've passed the ballot deadline. If we were to have

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<v Speaker 3>a race where it's you against Ormundani, poles still show

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<v Speaker 3>him leading you by a substantial amount. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>see in the electorate that the data aren't shown when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to that particular configuration.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Poles are historically wrong, especially this year, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. On your first point, you can stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the race. First of all, technically nobody can get

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<v Speaker 1>off the ballot, right. The question is are you viable

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<v Speaker 1>in the race, And you can a people who are

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<v Speaker 1>in the race, but the voters just think they're not

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<v Speaker 1>really competitive, they can't win. I'm not going to waste

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<v Speaker 1>my vote, and I think that's what happens here. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it comes down to me and Mamdani. I think

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<v Speaker 1>when people understand what Mamdani stands for, besides what he

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<v Speaker 1>has said on TikTok, you know he's anti police, this

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<v Speaker 1>band the police, legalized prostitution, legalize the drug trade, abolish jails.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this would be anarchy in New York. Socialism

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<v Speaker 1>does not work in New York City. It's antithetical. We're

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<v Speaker 1>the business capital, right, We're pro business. Business is the

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<v Speaker 1>engine that drives the train. So none of that has

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<v Speaker 1>been communicated yet, and when it does, I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the minds will change.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there an effort by you and your campaign to

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<v Speaker 3>try to convince Eric Adams curritously would have dropped out

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<v Speaker 3>of this race, or their conversations that are happening behind

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes to make what I imagine you see as

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<v Speaker 3>a compelling case for them to step aside, to make

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<v Speaker 3>this more of a one on one race.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sure they're making their own decisions. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in elections that where I have dropped out because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was the right thing to do. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a decision to make. There is no apparent path to

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<v Speaker 1>victory for them. They in essence would act as a spoiler,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a decision they have to make. They have

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<v Speaker 1>to make it personally, and that's their business. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to come down to a two

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<v Speaker 1>person race no matter what, because that's what the polls

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<v Speaker 1>are going to say, and that is the choice. I

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<v Speaker 1>am a Democrat. My father was a Democrat. I worked

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<v Speaker 1>for Bill Clinton. Zoran is a socialist for the Democratic Socialists. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't support Democrats. Barack Obama was a liar and evil

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't support Kamala Harris against Trump. Right, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a very different This is apples and oranges between

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<v Speaker 1>the two of us.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ask you about some comments that Curtis

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<v Speaker 3>Sliva made yesterday. I'm sure you heard them. He was

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<v Speaker 3>campaigning and suggested that your affiliates of your campaign had

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<v Speaker 3>reached out to him and offered him money to the

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<v Speaker 3>tune of ten million dollars to drop out of this race.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm going to quote from what he said during

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<v Speaker 3>that campaign event. He called these classic Andrew Cuomo tactics.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you strap up Cuomo to a lie detection

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<v Speaker 3>machine and ask him and we'll all be blown to

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<v Speaker 3>Kingdom come because.

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<v Speaker 1>He's behind it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a polygraphic machine with me here, But

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<v Speaker 3>how do you respond to what he's alleging in those comments?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, you can't. You have to take Sliva with a

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<v Speaker 1>grain of salt. Right. He is a known con man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's lied about being victims of crime before. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>very simple, David. When he said that someone should have

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<v Speaker 1>said who, who or fored you the money? Let him

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<v Speaker 1>answer the question, because it would happen to be a crime, right,

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<v Speaker 1>who or forered you money? He never said who wh

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<v Speaker 1>sort of tells you right that it's all malarkey. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no person who did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ask you last we've talked about the

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<v Speaker 3>state of the race, where you hope that it's headed,

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<v Speaker 3>and if we can't, I'd like to look back to

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy seven. So a ways you were nineteen, You

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<v Speaker 3>were a student at Fordham University. Your dad was making

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<v Speaker 3>a run for mayor, and you were helping out on

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<v Speaker 3>the campaign. He didn't win the Democratic primary and decided

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<v Speaker 3>to run on an independent line for mayor. He ended

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<v Speaker 3>up losing that race by nine points. They say that

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<v Speaker 3>history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't want history to repeat itself here. You'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to win this race in the way that he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't able to back then fifty years ago. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>the first to point out this historical parallel. But I

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<v Speaker 3>imagine you've thought about it, and I wonder how that

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<v Speaker 3>experience has informed your outlook on this race. There was

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<v Speaker 3>introspection after the primaries. You didn't do as well as

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<v Speaker 3>you wanted to do. You decided to make this run.

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<v Speaker 3>What can you learn about that race that your dad

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<v Speaker 3>waged and how does that inform the way that you're

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<v Speaker 3>running this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my father was an extraordinary individual on many levels,

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<v Speaker 1>highly principled, frankly a typical for a politician, and he

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<v Speaker 1>did quote unquote the right thing, whatever he thought the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing was for me. I believe in the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in what my father stood for, what John F.

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy stood for, and Robert F. Kennedy stood for, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, and what Mandami represents. And this Democratic Socialists

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<v Speaker 1>of America DSA socialists call them whatever you want. Is

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<v Speaker 1>repugnant to the Democratic Party, I know. And that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>really going on here. This is a civil war within

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party right where the extreme left is pulling

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party and the moderates are afraid of the

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<v Speaker 1>extreme left. It's the inverse of the Republican Party when

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<v Speaker 1>they had the Tea Party and the Tea Party was

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<v Speaker 1>pulling the Republican Moderates too far to the right because

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<v Speaker 1>they were afraid of them in a primary. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening here. It's a battle for the soul of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party. And the Democratic Party is not anti business,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not anti police. That's not who we are. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not about redistributing income as a policy. Right, you tax

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<v Speaker 1>to provide a service. You don't tax to take money

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<v Speaker 1>from the rich to give it to the poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why Donald Trump cosim a communist. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>not the Democratic Party that I believe I represent and

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally has served this nation well. He is zero experience

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<v Speaker 1>in the position, never managed anything five employees, never had

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<v Speaker 1>a real job, and when you're willing to consider chief

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<v Speaker 1>executive New York City, no management experience, ran five people.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's going to run three hundred thousand employees one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifteen billion dollar budget. You wake up any morning,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a terrorist attack, you could have another COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>It just the means government and the means of public

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<v Speaker 1>service in a way that I just find abhorrent. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do everything I can to stop govern quollo.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you