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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty arm Strong

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Speaker 1: and Jettie and he Armstrong and Yetty. What's this moment

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Speaker 1: like for me? Back when I was waxing the staff

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Speaker 1: table at iup Thanksgiving weekend and the school was shut

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Speaker 1: down for the playoffs, did I ever think something like

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Speaker 1: this was possible? Probably not. But if you keep your.

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Speaker 2: Nose down in life and keep working, anything is possible.

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Speaker 1: Love that. Tell my kids that keep your nose down

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Speaker 1: and keep working, anything's possible. These simple truths could use

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Speaker 1: a little fertilizing and tending and teaching these days. That's

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Speaker 1: the nobody'd ever heard of him before six months ago.

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Speaker 1: Coach of Indiana who won the national championship last night

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Speaker 1: as they went sixteen and zero and one of the

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Speaker 1: great sports stories of all time.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about that more later. The great

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 1: Coming up later this hour. We'll talk about the whole

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Speaker 1: Greenland battle, which heated up quite a bit over the

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Speaker 1: weekend with back and forth between Trump and various world leaders,

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Speaker 1: and then Trump truthed out their private texts to really

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Speaker 1: even amp up the whole dynamic, so very exciting. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea where this is going.

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Speaker 1: And they're all meeting in Davos, Switzerland like today. Trump's

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Speaker 1: going to give a speech tomorrow which, based on everything

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Speaker 1: you said over the weekend, He's going to come out

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Speaker 1: guns blazon about why you should give me Greenland and

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Speaker 1: if you don't, you're gonna pay a price.

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Speaker 2: I just all right, we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: very exciting. It's hilarious to me. Yeah, I might do.

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Speaker 2: My kids are all in jail, my wife is waving

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Speaker 1: Very exciting, one way to put it. So, yesterday was

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Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Junior Day, the federal holiday. We usually

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Speaker 1: worked that we did not yesterday. Are we racists for

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Speaker 1: not working, for taking the day off, or if we

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Speaker 2: I'm not a racist at all. So don't think about

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Speaker 2: these things, huh. Speaking of simple truths.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, We've talked about this many times over the years,

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Speaker 1: but perhaps some of you don't know where you've forgotten.

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Speaker 1: There are a whole bunch of unreleased files on MLK Junior,

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Speaker 1: partially because our government was illegally surveilling him for years,

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Speaker 1: which I've always find fascinating. We have a federal holiday

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Speaker 1: name after the guy. Then we have a building, the

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Speaker 1: jad Go Hoover Building, UH, named after the guy at

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Speaker 1: the FBI who was illegally taping the civil rights leader.

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Speaker 1: We gave a national holiday, That's correct. I don't under

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Speaker 1: the ridge forgiven. I don't understand how those two things square.

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Speaker 1: I'm just amazed by it. Or people move on or forgotten,

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Speaker 1: I mean we did. Our government did all kinds of

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Speaker 1: horrible things around the civil rights movement. And this was Democrats,

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Speaker 1: by the way, UH presidents at the time, not only Democrats,

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Speaker 1: but also Democrats and their their FBI head. Who were

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Speaker 1: you go around taping people and smearing people? And remember

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Speaker 1: the the the FBI sent a letter to MLK Junior

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Speaker 1: telling him he should kill himself. We're gonna let your

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Speaker 1: wife know that we had We're gonna send your wife

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Speaker 1: audio of the UH of you having sex with other

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Speaker 1: hotel rooms. You're going to stay in illegally and tape

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Speaker 1: and you having sex, and we're gonna send that to

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Speaker 1: your wife. So why did you do the right thing

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Speaker 1: and kill yourself? Our government did that to the guy

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Speaker 1: who has a federal holiday. Now we have marches, we

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Speaker 1: It's just it's almost too hard to believe AnyWho your

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Speaker 2: It's a tough balancing act because you've got the the

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Speaker 1: But come on, the guy's clearly a drug dealer, your.

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Speaker 2: Honor, they won't do illegal searches all the damn time.

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Speaker 2: So I wish there was some principle that we could

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Speaker 2: use to say, look, all of this was completely unholy

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Speaker 2: and so nobody needs to hear the stuff. This stuff

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Speaker 2: view of what actually happened and what everybody was doing

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of stuff in there. It's one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons that I think smart people who aren't trying

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Speaker 1: You got all kinds of information here with no context,

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Speaker 1: people's names being brought into things they didn't do anything wrong,

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Speaker 1: not fair, not cool. That's exactly what this sort of

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Speaker 1: illegally taped by the government. Should that stuff be heard

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Speaker 1: by all of us? Probably not. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: that is not seen as cool. But he's but if

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Speaker 1: And I'm an archaeologist, and if I, you know, i'd

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Speaker 2: I end up on a what TV? When does a

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Speaker 1: There? Is it? Thirty years? One hundred, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: if historical figures going way back, Man, if you can

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Speaker 1: get some information about their private lives, that's scene as gold.

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Speaker 1: the time, And I don't know which would benefit which side.

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Speaker 1: I think I lean toward not releasing this stuff, Uh,

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Speaker 1: partially just because I hate the idea of the government

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Speaker 1: secretly taping people and getting away with it. Freaking hate

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Speaker 1: that specifically to damage them, purely, to damage them. Yes, yeah, yeah, Wow,

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Speaker 1: on both sides. As I said, it's coming fast. When

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Speaker 1: I mean, people will be piling through that stuff because

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Speaker 1: there's tens of thousands of pages of this stuff. Where

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Speaker 1: thousand pages, thirty thousand pages. Great, there's lots and lots

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Speaker 1: and lots of them where they were constantly taping and

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Speaker 2: There's a rule. You wait fifty years after somebody passes.

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Speaker 1: That's the rule. Let's just follow the role. It's a

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Speaker 1: good role. Even if they were legally taped by the government.

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Speaker 2: It will bring to light, shiny, bright, bright light on

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Speaker 1: How is Jaegar Hoover's name still on the FBI building? Well,

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Speaker 1: what is that message? Only built the agency. I'm not

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Speaker 1: who Robert L. Woodson is? I do not.

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Speaker 2: I knew the name was vaguely familiar. He's an American

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Speaker 2: and he unleashed a bomb of a letter on MLK

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Speaker 2: it's good stuff, and uh it's straight talk.

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Speaker 1: war with Russia, They're sure's hell not going to go

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Speaker 1: to war with US.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to back off my opinion and

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Speaker 2: just try to look at this as a you know,

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Speaker 2: a political scientist.

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Speaker 1: It's a case study.

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Speaker 2: So, and I'm reminded of his proposal for the billion

438
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Speaker 2: dollar entry fee Circle of Elders or whatever he's calling it,

439
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Speaker 2: that doesn't even mention GAZA, but is allegedly going to

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Speaker 2: administer GAZA and also become like a global organization for

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Speaker 2: adjudicating disputes and doing deals and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: And one of the complaints that some people have, including

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Speaker 2: Macrone of France, who isn't worth the baguette he wrote

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Speaker 2: in on is that sucker blues.

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Speaker 1: This appears to be replacing zay Un. Well, are you

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Speaker 1: replacing zay U n so in UN sucks?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's truer than anything that's ever been said.

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Speaker 2: So Trump is looking at the UN is completely useless.

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Speaker 2: I mean, beyond the point of repair. It's a house

450
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Speaker 2: that needs to be torn down because it's a good property.

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Speaker 2: He is looking at NATO in the same way. I'm

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Speaker 2: just noodle in this room, not arguing in favor of

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Speaker 2: it that NATO is no longer fixable. It needs to

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Speaker 2: be torn down to the studs. We need Greenland to

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Speaker 2: protect the United States and the Western world. If they

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Speaker 2: won't have it, Okay, Fine, NATO falls apart.

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Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen the next day.

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Speaker 2: All those countries are going to get together and say

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Speaker 2: we kind of ought to, you know, band together to

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Speaker 2: protect ourselves against the evil doers. What should it look like? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's the creative destruction of trumpetalism.

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Speaker 1: I can actually see that happening. Yeah, it's a hell

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Speaker 1: of a gamble even if NATO didn't exist, though you

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Speaker 1: can't really justify threatening Great Britain in France.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, well yeah, I don't like it as

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Speaker 2: a strategy. And the fact that the most easily butt

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Speaker 2: hurt human on the planet, who's obviously an ego maniac

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Speaker 2: and inflexible, and although you know he's flexible, who it

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Speaker 2: needs to be. I just that he is carrying out

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Speaker 2: this brand brilliant, history changing strategy. Intentionally, I'm having a

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Speaker 2: hard time buying it. But I don't hate my hypothetical argument.

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Speaker 2: I'll have to think about it more. And certainly, if

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Speaker 2: you like to email drop us note what do you

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Speaker 2: think of that? Mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com.

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Speaker 2: Mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com. We'll go

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Speaker 2: through them and bring the best to the good folks.

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Speaker 1: So speaking of Macron and that League of Elders or

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Speaker 1: whatever that Trump's trying to put together to run Gaza

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Speaker 1: and various super friends. Yes, Macron said he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to be part of it. Trump was asked about it

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Speaker 1: today this morning before he got on the plane.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy, I'm rather than mccrong, thank you will not annoying

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Speaker 2: and reported me.

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Speaker 4: Did you say that nobody rots him because he's going

485
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Speaker 4: to be out of office? Very sir, I said, you

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Speaker 4: know that's all right. What I'll do is, if they

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Speaker 4: feel like costo, I'll put a two hundred percent tara

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Speaker 4: for his lines and champaigns and he'll join it.

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't have to join me.

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Speaker 4: If he said that, you're probably giving it to me

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Speaker 4: a little bit differently. But if he actually did say that,

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Speaker 4: but as you know, he's going to be out of

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Speaker 4: office interview.

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Speaker 1: But show the whatever Ministry of Peace or something I

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Speaker 1: think it's called, Macron said he won't be part of it. Well,

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Speaker 1: then I'll put two hundred percent tariffs on his wine

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Speaker 1: in the champagne.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I honestly think and this should not happen

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Speaker 2: by you know, legal you know arguments. I'll bet the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court justices saw that headline and thought, okay, yeah,

501
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Speaker 2: we got to do something because the idea that the

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four Emergency Powers Act extended to the French

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Speaker 2: won't join a hypothetical organization that nobody quite understands that

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Speaker 2: it was, and that's a national emergency. Therefore the President

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Speaker 2: should be able to level two hundred percent tariffs on wine.

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Speaker 1: Come on to call me.

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Speaker 2: You want a king, if you want a king, No kings,

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Speaker 2: That's what I say.

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Speaker 1: If you want a king, that's the way a king behaves.

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Speaker 1: So you wish Kamala had won? That was fair. So

511
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Speaker 1: to calm things down. Seen as one of the grown

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Speaker 1: ups in the room, Scott Bessett yesterday, sit back, they relax.

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Speaker 5: I am confident that the leaders will not escalate and

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Speaker 5: that this will work out in a manner that ends

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Speaker 5: up in a very good place for all, for national security,

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Speaker 5: for the US and for Europe.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, mister secretary here in the sales meeting, the

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Speaker 2: sales energer just came in and said, if we don't

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Speaker 2: get sales up ten percent, he's going to murder us

520
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Speaker 2: all in our sleep. Well, I'll sit back, relax. This

521
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Speaker 2: will end up in a good place for the sales

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Speaker 2: department in the entire organization.

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Speaker 1: Tit back, they relax.

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Speaker 2: I like Scott Besson, by the way. I think he's

525
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Speaker 2: a very very smart dude, and he is. How do

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Speaker 2: you describe this?

527
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Speaker 1: The uh, the.

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Speaker 2: Trump reinterpreter in chief for a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So final word on this before we take a break.

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Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal's reporting was by threatening tariffs and

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Speaker 1: leaving the specter of military action on the table. In

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Speaker 1: recent days, Trump has stunned even some of his closest aides,

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Speaker 1: who now believe it could become more difficult for Europeans

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Speaker 1: to accept any sort of negotiation given the US president's

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Speaker 1: increasing demands. That was your point last week, where you

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Speaker 1: kind of put people in a position where they look

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Speaker 1: like punks by saying, yes, you don't you don't ever

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Speaker 1: want to do that in a deal?

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Speaker 2: Well right, yeah, Oh great, You've put me in a

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Speaker 2: position where if I say, if I agree to it,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be humiliated. Thanks, But I love to

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Speaker 2: feed JD. Vans a couple of drinks and get his straight.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk to j D. Man, I want

544
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Speaker 1: to sit at the bar all night with Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to them. They relax, Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm relaxed. What does Rubio think of this? I mean,

547
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that reporting is true or not.

548
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Speaker 1: But his closest aids are stunned. His closest DAIDs probably

549
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Speaker 1: aren't thinking all like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and then flying to Davos to bring a sense

551
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Speaker 2: and wisdom to the whole thing. Is Gavin freaking Newsom?

552
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh god? So Trump's going to give a speech tomorrow.

553
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's going to give a speech Thursday. Oh jeez,

554
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Speaker 1: When does the when does this end? When does the

555
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Speaker 1: when does the performative stuff end? Ever? I said this

556
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Speaker 1: to my son yesterday. I said, biggest question in the

557
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Speaker 1: world is when Trump leaves the scene to things calm

558
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Speaker 1: back down or not. That's one of the biggest questions

559
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: hanging out there. Yeah, it's a fascinating one. Nobody knows either.

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Speaker 1: Quick question, before we go to break, do you think

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Speaker 1: there's any chance we militarily take Greenland?

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Speaker 2: I'm so horrified by the notion, it's it's hard to

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Speaker 2: even picture. I'm gonna say no, No, you don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any chance we're gonna attack a NATO country. Wait,

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Speaker 2: I don't think we would attack him.

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Speaker 1: I think we would just I think we just send

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Speaker 1: a ship over and Marines would just walk onto the

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Speaker 1: country and nobody's gonna shoot at them. Raise the flag,

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Speaker 1: raise the flag, and nobody stops us. And I think

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Speaker 1: that might be the plan. I still an attack, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think there'll be any fighting. I think

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Speaker 1: everybody slapped their foreheads and say, okay, now what do

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Speaker 1: we do with this situation?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, spicier and spicier.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, that game was good last night. I want

576
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Speaker 1: to touch on that and a bunch of other stuff.

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Speaker 1: Stay here.

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Speaker 6: To the Boosier Star QB for Nando Mendoza to come

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Speaker 6: up big when it's mattered most first us down, that

580
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Speaker 6: drive and dive on fourth down proved the one Mendoza

581
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Speaker 6: is this year's Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 1: That was some play. I've seen the replay now five

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Speaker 1: hundred times. That was badass. That was really a badass play.

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Speaker 1: You would have had if it was a movie.

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Speaker 2: You'd have had to uh, choreograph it for like hours, right,

586
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Speaker 2: and then reduce it to like four different shots Okay,

587
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: now we're gonna shoot the crashing into the linebacker, all right,

588
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Speaker 2: now the spin move action and then now the big dive.

589
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Speaker 2: And they'd had to do that like twenty times to

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Speaker 2: get it right. No, dude, just did it Firstake.

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Speaker 1: As a tall, skinny guy, stretching your body out in

592
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Speaker 1: such a way to get just hammered like he did

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Speaker 1: for the eighteenth time of the game, stumbling around dazed,

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Speaker 1: his lip bleeding. But that's the way it was the

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Speaker 1: whole game.

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Speaker 2: Well, the referees who'd forgotten to bring their flags let

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Speaker 2: them play, and dude took a hell of a beating.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, it was. Great sport to things. One.

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Speaker 1: What's a microwave cost nowadays? Fifty bucks? A cheap microwave.

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Speaker 2: He's just a cheap dorm one. It takes like an

601
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Speaker 2: hour to melt an ice cube.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what we got there. That's wh we got

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Speaker 1: in the kitchen already. I'm gonna throw that off the balcony,

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Speaker 1: the one we got in there right now because it

605
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Speaker 1: smells like I don't know video, I didn't put that online. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the smell of our microwave current, go open a microwave.

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Speaker 1: Next break Michael, if you want to really enjoy something, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the hell yeah, Hanson says, confirm. It is horrible.

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Speaker 2: It is disgusting, And overnight I pick cooks up roadkill.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think. I think he got squirrels in

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Speaker 1: their old squirrels. And so I'm gonna throw that off

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Speaker 1: the balcony and you know Amazon will have one delivered

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Speaker 1: today for fifty bucks. Cool. Then a different thing over

614
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Speaker 1: the weekend, and I tweeted this out. I didn't read

615
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Speaker 1: the replies because I wondered if anybody knew anything about this.

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Speaker 1: I tweeted a picture out of this guy that flies

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Speaker 1: around outside the town I live in, and you see

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Speaker 1: him up in the sky all the time, and I've

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Speaker 1: seen him when he gets lower by the airport. It

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Speaker 1: looks like a lawnmower engine with a propeller, sitting in

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Speaker 1: a chair with a prepara chute on top, ultra light

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Speaker 1: something or other. I don't know, but man, it looks

623
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Speaker 1: just crazy to be that high up in the air

624
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Speaker 1: and flying around him. Then I just wondered if anybody

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Speaker 1: knew anything about that? What sort of person does that?

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Speaker 1: Does that void your health insurance or your homeowners are yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, if you're a private pilot of any sort,

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Speaker 2: you've got a that's a very special thing you've got

629
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Speaker 2: to deal with. So yeah, a guy who flies around

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Speaker 2: the lawnmower with a propeller attached. Yeah, I think there's

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Speaker 2: probably a clause. Well, there's just so there's nothing around you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just sitting in that chair thing with

633
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Speaker 1: his feet dangling, and it looks so terrifying.

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Speaker 2: I would like to see his brain waves in mind shown,

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Speaker 2: you know, side by side, because if you forced me

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Speaker 2: at gunpoint to do that, I'd say, no, just shoot me.

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Speaker 1: You're shooting me. I'm not doing that. Well, the thing

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Speaker 1: I was thinking is what he obviously really really likes it,

639
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Speaker 1: so he gets the adrenaline rush out of it and

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Speaker 1: needs that for some reason or something.

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Speaker 2: I admire him and will continue to admire him till

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Speaker 2: the day he dies, which won't be long.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, we have a lot more to talk about

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Speaker 1: next hour. If you don't get to get to the

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Speaker 1: podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty