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I welcome everybody. 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Everything's in place. Next hour we will have the two 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: rounds of the mooieline. We will throw somebody into the dumpster. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: I think it's appropriate that word dumpster with today's person 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: hack that's going to go into the dumpster. All about 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: it In the five o'clock hour story that came out 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: today is a Fox News special. Senior LA prosecutors say 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: they have been demoted by La County DA George Gascon 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: after public publicly criticizing him. These are the best ones. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: John McKinney, John Lewin, both deputy das and the major 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Crimes Division. Also Jason Lustig, assistant head Deputy Attorney overseeing 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Long Beach. They are going to be reassigned to low 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: level positions in about two weeks, and McKinney was going 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: to run as a candidate to replace Gascone. They're not 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: going to lose salary, but they will lose position. Yeah. 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: And and these are these are the smartest guys who 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: take on the biggest, most difficult cases. And so this 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: is this is the insanity of George Gascone. Let's get 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: John Lewin on. He's been with us a number of 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: times recently. John, Welcome to the show again. Thanks for 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: having me on. Guys. I guess you suspected this would 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: come one day soon, right, Well, you know it's interesting. 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: I decided when George Gascone, after he was elected and 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: after he started implementing what were not just bad policies 34 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: but illegal policies that endangered the community, I was safe. 35 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: I'd been assigned to our Major Crimes Division, where I 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: did cold cases for the past nearly twenty years, and 37 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: I decided that it was too important and that I 38 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: needed to speak up about what I saw were George 39 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Gascone's illegal conduct. And his policies which were endangering the community. 40 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: At the time I spoke up, I was safe George Gascon. 41 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: Actually I had met him, had not had any issues 42 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: with them, so I knew that I was taking somewhat 43 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: of a risk. But you hope that individuals will live 44 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: up to the jobs that they're given and that they 45 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: will put personal animous aside and that they will do 46 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: what they were elected to do, and so I decided 47 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: to speak up. So if you're asking me, am I 48 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: surprised given what George Gascon has done that he has 49 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: now done this, I can't say that I'm surprised. I'm 50 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: extremely disappointed. I've been a cold case prosecutor almost exclusively 51 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: for the past twenty five years. The expertise that it 52 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: has taken to not just prosecute, but investigate these cases. 53 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: It's an area where you know, I'm considered one of 54 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: the foremost experts in this area in the nation, and 55 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: now to be put in a position where not only 56 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: can I not help future individuals, but the case is 57 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: the investigations that I have. I had to call up 58 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: today and I had to tell a fourteen year old 59 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: girl that I've been working on an investigation I had 60 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: to tell her her mom and her grandmother that I 61 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: can't help them anymore that I've been transferred. Those are 62 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: really really difficult calls to make, you know. But this 63 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: is not about me. I'm one prosecutor. I've been in 64 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: the office a long time. What this is about is 65 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: this is a clear attempt by George Gascone and the 66 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: individuals around him to attempt to intimidate the lawyers in 67 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: this office, so they didn't just transfer me out of 68 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: Major Crimes. And by the way, i'm I saw a 69 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: press release from Tiffany Blacknell, who used to be a 70 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: public defender. You might remember her. She was the one 71 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: who had Facebook posts deriding the LAPD. I think she 72 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: had one wearing a shirt saying you know, the police 73 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: are trained to kill us and other things. She's now 74 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: his chief spokesperson, and she made the comment, among other things, 75 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: that she takes issue with the insinuation that only people 76 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: currently assigned to a Major Crimes division are capable of 77 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: doing challenging work. That's blatantly false. We have extraordinary lawyers 78 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: in every branch of this department with the experience, knowledge 79 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: and skill set to handle major crimes prosecution. She adds Furthermore, 80 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: the Major Crimes Division handles high profile cases, not necessarily 81 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: those that are more complex. She's never tried a case 82 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: as a prosecutor. She doesn't know anything about what I 83 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: do with cold cases. My typical investigation in an investigation 84 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: in a cold case is two or three years. I'm 85 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: one of the only people in the country that does this. 86 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: So the idea that somehow this is just about giving 87 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: other people opportunities, that it's not retaliation, and by the way, 88 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: her comment was not. She was asked it was retaliation, 89 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: and instead of answering the question, what she said is 90 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: nobody was quote demoted. Now by demoted, they don't have 91 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: the ability under civil service laws to fire us. George Gascon, 92 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: he was running for DA was apparently unaware when he 93 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: first started that, in fact, he couldn't fire the DA's 94 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: in this county like you could in San Francisco. So 95 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: the idea that, apparently, as they sit here right now, 96 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: that in essence, there aren't any special skills necessary, or 97 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: that John McKinney and I were not demoted, is absurd. 98 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: I've been sent to be a lying deputy in Inglewood, 99 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: a place where I worked almost thirty years ago in 100 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: the history of major crimes, and I've been there longer 101 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: than anybody who's ever been there. No one has ever 102 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: been transferred like this. And I will tell you this 103 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: comes under the heading I recently got my evaluation. I 104 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: got the highest rated evaluation you could get. The Chief 105 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Deputy had to sign off on it because of the 106 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: rating that I got. In addition, I was named the 107 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Lawyer of the Year, and there's a fifteen minute approximately 108 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: testimonial by the Chief Deputy's saying what a great job 109 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: I've done with the office. So this is absolute retaliation 110 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: because I had the nerve to speak about the District 111 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Attorney's unlawful policies. Um, it's it's shameful, it's and it's 112 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: really sad. It's it's a sad day for Los Angeles 113 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: County in terms of, you know, how the DA's office 114 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: is being politicized, and it's a sad day for victims 115 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: out there, you know, and obviously for me personally. You know, 116 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: it's sad too, But you know, the story is much 117 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: bigger than just John McKinney and I. Well, it's bad 118 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: for all of us because we rely on you guys 119 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: to do the work you've done for decades. There's only 120 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: a few people people capable of doing what you do. 121 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: And John McKinney there, you know, there's all you can't 122 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: replace that kind of experience. And of course it's retaliation, 123 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: and they know that. They just put out their boilerplate 124 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: lies and nonsense because it distracts the media. This is 125 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: this itself should be criminal. To take away the most 126 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: the most accomplished prosecutors that that are in the system 127 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: makes the world dangerous. And nobody got up with this. Guys, 128 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: remember what they're trying to do. So I'm a very 129 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: high profile prosecutor in the office, as is John McKinney. Now, 130 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: I wasn't running for election. I wasn't running for anything, 131 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: and I wasn't somebody who spoke out after I was disciplined. 132 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: And I think for that reason, you know, I'm a 133 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: threat to them because I don't have any ulterior motives 134 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: and they can't really paint me in a in a 135 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: bad light. So what they've done by doing this is 136 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: they are basically sending a shot over the bow to 137 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: every young lawyer in this office. And they've called me. 138 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: I've heard from fifty different people and most of the 139 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: young lawyers. Do you know what they've said to me? 140 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, how can they do this to you. 141 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: If they can do this to you, what are they 142 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: gonna do to me? And that's intentional. He wants everyone 143 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: to be obedience. Yes, he wants to intimidate people to 144 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: not question his illegal and unethical policies. And by the way, 145 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: he had both. He had policies that were blatantly illegal, 146 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: and then he had policies which, although not illegal, for instance, 147 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: not filing gun allegations, not filing special circumstance. He has 148 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: the legal right to do that. He does not have 149 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: the legal right to not file strikes and to have 150 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: lawyers walk into court and lie and give bs reasons 151 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: as to why they're dismissing them. Court of Appeal said, 152 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 1: that's not that's not my opinion. That's the opinion of 153 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: the Court of Appeal. But he adds the right even 154 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: though it's very bad policy to not have gun allegations. Now, 155 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: the result of that is, obviously, guys, the reason why 156 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: we have gun allegations is because we want to encourage 157 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: criminals not to bring and use guns in their crimes. 158 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: So I felt that that was a disastrous policy. I 159 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: felt that that was a policy that was hurting our 160 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: communities of color, which are becoming blood baths, and I 161 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: spoke up. And the result of speaking up is is 162 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: this transfer. So you know it's it's definitely I'm not 163 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: going to tell you that it's not sad er demoralizing. 164 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: It's both. But you know this is it's not about 165 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: I've talked to John McKinney and he's obviously, you know, 166 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: upset as well. But both of us are fighters, We 167 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: care about this county and we're not going to be 168 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: intimidated either one of us. McKinney is going to be 169 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: transferred to an office overseeing demeanors. Yes, so so John McKinney, 170 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: who announced that he was running for DA previously had 171 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: some very high profile cases. And since it's been very 172 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: clear that John McKinney has all but said or maybe 173 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: even has said that he's running in twenty twenty four, 174 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: they got to make sure that they put him in 175 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: a position where he's not getting any attention. So forget 176 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: about whether or not we're going to protect these victims. 177 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: Forget about the fact that we've got a beautiful, innocent 178 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: young woman brutally murdered, brutally murdered. We all know the case. 179 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to mention it by name, but we 180 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: know it. And John had that case. John had that 181 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: connection with the family. And now, apparently for George Gascon's 182 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: political benefit and to aid his illegal conduct, he's going 183 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: to transfer John. He's going to move me out. It's 184 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: really difficult when you know I've spent my career work 185 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: in sixty seventy eighty hour weeks. I don't do this 186 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: for the money. I do this because I care, as 187 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: do the majority of the deputy district attorneys in our office. 188 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: You know, we're a dedicated group. These people are committed, 189 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: and George Gascon is trying to break us. He's trying 190 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: to break us by going after those of us who 191 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: are the most high profile, and he's trying to send 192 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: the message that if I can do this to them, 193 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: just imagine what I'm going to do to you. All Right, John, 194 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: we got to go. We always appreciate talking to you, 195 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: and we thank you for coming on with this sad development. Yeah, 196 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: and thank you guys. Keep in touch. Anytime you have 197 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: something to say, give us a call. We'll do We've 198 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: got to keep spotlighting the misery Gascon is creating and 199 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: all the illegal acts, and we have to keep keep 200 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: on his case. That's John Lewin, a Deputy DA in 201 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: the Major Crimes Division, the only county DA's office. But 202 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: the word today is he's been emotive transferred to an 203 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: office in Englewood. Were apparently not much as going on 204 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,479 Speaker 1: as retribution retaliation by guests going for being publicly outspoken 205 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: against him. John and Ken show kf I Am six 206 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app he's heading into 207 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: putin territory. Yeah, I think you endialed it right. Putin 208 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: esque is a good way to describe the only county 209 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: District Attorney, George Gascon who's retaliating against deputy das who 210 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: have spoken out against him and in favor of the 211 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: recall demotions. But even though they will not admit their demotions, 212 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: they have demoted several long time very successful deputy das, 213 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: putting our guest who was just on John Lewin. So 214 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: he's taken some of the smartest, most experienced, most accomplished 215 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: das right, and now we don't have their services anymore. 216 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: Now they will be able to work for us to 217 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:53,359 Speaker 1: solve these cases and convict these yeah, major crimes division, Yeah, 218 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you have all these complex murder 219 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: cases and other types of cases, and now we don't 220 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: have our best anymore on duty. They'll get paid and 221 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: they'll do the busy work until Gascon is gone. But 222 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: we're losing out. But that's part of the plan with 223 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: Gascon because John McKinney and John Lewin are really good 224 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: at putting bad guys away, and Gascon doesn't want that. 225 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: And he doesn't want people highlighting all the illegal things 226 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: he's done or all the stupid things he's done, all 227 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the bad policy and he can't even because he can't 228 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: fire them. This is what he can do, right, demote them, 229 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: and they don't get them to quit. We're getting, like, 230 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, the crazy dictators in Russia, the Soviet Union, 231 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Eastern Europe, the lunatics who don't really care about the 232 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: country going to hell. They don't care what happens to 233 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: the people. They need to they need to flex their 234 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: power right and flaunt their ego and their insanity. And 235 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: he's in gascone is clearly insane. We have a crazy 236 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: person running the Alley County District. Attorney's office. Nobody, nobody 237 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: would do this, Nobody would take away these guys out 238 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: of their jobs, and it's it's it's terrible that there's 239 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: no way to stop him. It's a very very upset 240 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: that the recall was botched and that hasn't been explained 241 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: to us either. I noticed saw the of all running hid. 242 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: There's been no follow up into what what what screw 243 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: up was? Another story involving Gascone has come back to 244 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: the courts, and you may remember we interviewed a woman 245 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: who was out walking in Venice with her young child 246 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: in a stroller and a team came along, speeding down 247 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: an alleyway and sideswipe the both of them. There's even 248 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: a photo taken from surveillance video in the alleyway of 249 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: the woman going sideways. Miraculously, she was not seriously injured, 250 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: neither was the child. But because this was a juvenile 251 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: and we know real all too well now that George 252 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: treats to those who are under eighteen very very lightly, 253 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: all he got was some time in a juvenile probation 254 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: camp five to seven months. The reason this has come 255 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: back around is he's appealing to a judge for early release, 256 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: and according to Fox News, in the past few months, 257 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: he's been involved in at least fourteen fights, fourteen fights, 258 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: write ups, misconduct, disobedience, destructive language, defiance of authority. But 259 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: he wants out, So who's you gonna kill when he 260 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: comes out? He almost killed this mother and child. Yeah, 261 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: this is a dangerous person. And Gascone did this incredibly stupid, 262 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: dangerous thing of putting him away for just a few months. 263 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: And this kid knows that Gascone probably will let him 264 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: out early, he'll agree with it. Wow. And the driver 265 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: was recorded on surveillance video veering interracial and her infant 266 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: bulling them over, then trying to flee before a good 267 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: samaritan and a pickup truck rammed him off the road. 268 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: So which one of the runs gets run over by 269 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: this guy? Life is uncertain. It's okay to feel stressed, anxious, worried, 270 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: or frustrated. It's normal. 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Call eight three three three one seven 278 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: four six seven three or live chat at calhope dot org. 279 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, Rachel left the state, she's moving. 280 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: She says, this is too much, this was it, this 281 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: is insane. We did talk to her some months back. 282 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: This is the way the state is run. This is 283 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: why the county is run. That you and your child 284 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: could get almost killed, run down by a crazy kid. 285 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: And the crazy kid's going to be loose in a 286 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: few months. I mean. He pleads guilty to three felonies, 287 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: two for assault, one for attempting to flee, and instead 288 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: he gainst juvenile probation camp and he wants out of 289 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: there early quite a day for gascon Huh. The judge 290 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: in the case says he wants more information. He did 291 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: not make a decision, and he's continued the case for 292 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: a few more weeks. But I guess when you're in 293 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: juvenile probation camp, you get a chance to ask a 294 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: judge for early release, and that's what he wants. Showed 295 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: up in court with his mother. You're fine, parents. This 296 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: is the real state of emergency going on here. It 297 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: is an absolute destructive district attorney. It was good, it 298 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: was already led to to deaths. His policies have led 299 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: to police office has been killed. Yeah, citizens have been killed. 300 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: Even a homeless person was killed. How's that for politically correct? 301 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: There there there There is nothing, nothing to stop him, 302 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: and there's no atrocity that will get him to change 303 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: his policies. We're coming up with the Johnny Ken Show 304 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: in kf I AM six forty live everywhere in the 305 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. All right, we roll our way into five 306 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: o'clock Friday, so we'll have two rounds of the Moistline 307 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: coming up at five twenty and again at five fifty 308 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: to end the show. In between, we will throw a 309 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: hack in a dumpster. A couple of things are going 310 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: on and stories who've been working on during the week. 311 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: We were sent a video by the business owner in 312 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Sherman Oaks who apparently has had it with the homeless 313 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: mental patients outside his business. And the video he sent 314 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: is the proof of one of the vagrants. He's actually 315 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: packaging his feces and he hurled it at Paul's suv. 316 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm watching it again. I can't get enough of this 317 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: because right now the guy is a pantless we're in 318 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: a yellow tshirt, bald, and he's wiping his rear end 319 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: after taking a dump in his white garbage bag there 320 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: it looks like a grocery bag, plastic, and then he 321 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: throws it at the window and leaves a big brown 322 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: splatter on the front windshield. If Scravana's suv. Look at that, 323 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: that looks arrested, looks like the world the largest bird 324 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: and left to dump behind there. It's it's so disgusting. 325 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: We're working on posting it. Some people can see for themselves. 326 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: Look what those some people have to live through. Look 327 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: how old he is, His his his beard, his beard 328 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: is all white, and he's grizzled, and this is his 329 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: brain is completely fried. There is no there's no way 330 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: this guy comes back, and and he's got to be 331 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: taken off the street and he's got to be putting 332 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: a room somewhere and he's got to be treated with 333 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: medication and sedated and you know, until he until he 334 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: checks out. Yeah, so hopefully we'll get it up there. 335 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Gonna have to do a little blurring there. Well, at 336 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: least he got he pantless. Yeah, well, don't blur out 337 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: the don't blur out the splatter though. No, no, I 338 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: have to see this. It's the male part that's kind 339 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: of hanging there, you know what. I was so focused 340 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: on the poop. I didn't even notice that. When he 341 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: runs up to the car, you can see it hanging 342 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: under his shirt. I'll watch it again. I want to 343 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: see an old guys, you do things swinging in the wind. 344 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make your your make your day. Look at that. 345 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: That is called a pp partial penis. That is so discussed. Oh, well, 346 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: there it is. You're right, it's it's poking out there. 347 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Oh oh wow. I watched this thing like four times. 348 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: I never noticed that. Oh oh that poops on feces. Yeah, 349 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: that really is very diarrhei ish too. It's like very 350 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: light colored. Yeah, that's what we doing this. It's awful. 351 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: We should not be evaluating it. Another development is a 352 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: story that of course, began last week with the search 353 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: warrant at the home of the La County Supervisor, Sheila Kill. This, 354 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: of course, is an Ella County Sheriff's Department investigation, which 355 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: has since been taken over by the Attorney General for 356 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: the state, Rob Banta, into her relationship and what she 357 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: did to get a contract for one of her friends 358 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: who runs a nonprofit. Well, the development that Steve came 359 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: to us with yesterday for Cafeie News was that she'll 360 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: a killed admitted she'd been tipped off to the search 361 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: and Steve got a hold of some texts, copies of 362 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: the text that she'llakill was being tipped off the night 363 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: before by the La County Inspector General and some people 364 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: and what they call Cocoa, the County Council's office. She 365 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: first said she was tipped off by Max Huntsman, the 366 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: Inspector General and the county council that morning when she 367 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: was leaving her house. She said that to an a 368 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: live interview on television. Yes, and then Steve got these 369 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: these these texts and copies, Yeah, copies of texts picked 370 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: up from some guy in a park. Because I have 371 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: the I have the copies here, and it's clear people, well, 372 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean it's a text. It's 373 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: it's a text of an email, or it's an email 374 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: of a text. And you could see on the header 375 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: line it goes to Sheila Keel, Sheillakuele. It's people within 376 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: La County's government alerting Sheilla Kul and her staff of 377 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: what's going on. This is the night before of the raid, 378 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: and so now she's written this, uh this tweet. Yeah, 379 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: she's got a series of tweets that appeared one hour ago. 380 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: I want to cut through the bs coming from Magamedia. Magamedia. 381 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: That's the Trump thing, make America great again media. I 382 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: first heard of the possibility of this bogus search warrant 383 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: from the La Times nearly a week before sheriff's deputies 384 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: arrived at my door. Yeah, because La Times is work 385 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 1: in Port Sheila Cule, So of course they're going to 386 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: give her a heads up, right, she's their girl. She 387 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: wants to help out. Hey, Sheila, there's a search warrant coming. 388 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: You might want to shred that paperwork. You might want 389 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: to erase those computer records, maybe lose that phone, because 390 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: that's what the only newspaper in town should do, is 391 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: alert public officials that a sheriff is coming with a 392 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: search warrant because of a corruption investigation. Because you helped 393 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: steer eight hundred thousand dollars to her best friend in 394 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: the whole world. We here at the La Times are 395 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: happy to help you, Sheila cule Skirt. The taxpayers that 396 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: was their money, We're gonna help you. Members of the 397 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department who were already leaking to the press long 398 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: before last Wednesday morning. In addition to the department had 399 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: no legal right to go through my texts on either 400 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: my county phone or personal phone for information related to 401 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: this purported leak. So and then she goes on to 402 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: just rant about how it's very, very difficult for her 403 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: to do her supervisor's job because she does not have 404 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: her laptop and phones. She cannot perform her duties as 405 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: a supervisor. That's actually a good thing. Contactor, she can't 406 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: contact her family and friends, Well, sure you can. You 407 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: can buy a new iPhone and then all your contacts 408 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: are on the cloud and then you simply download them 409 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: on your new phone. So stop your fake, lying, whining, okay. 410 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: And and you know what, and Max Huntsman ought to 411 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: be charged with some crime and the county council to 412 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: be charged or some crime. You can't you can't tip 413 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: off the target of an investigation that a raid is coming. 414 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: The last ten days have been truly surreal struggling to 415 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: deal with this thuggish attempt to intimidate to me, she 416 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: got spot tweets out. I'm telling you she's not going 417 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: to be the last supervisor to get caught. So you know, 418 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: Ridley Thomas got caught. She got caught. Others will get caught. 419 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: This is what they do. This is a continuous occurrence 420 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: in government between the county supervisors and the city council 421 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: and the mayor's office. This is what they live for. 422 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: This is their work every day, all right, John and 423 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: Ken Chow and kf I AM six forty five everywhere 424 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: in the iHeartRadio app. Ten dive jority of peers. Electricity 425 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: should now have passed through your body until you undid now. 426 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: An update from the John and Ken Execution Desk. Here's 427 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: John and Ken, John Cool, Ken Shampoe. It's kf I 428 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: AM six forty five everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. This 429 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: is one heck of a bizarre story for the execution 430 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: desk coming up next hour. We will of course have 431 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: our moist line callers who we'll show up around five 432 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: twenty and again at the end of the show at 433 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: five fifty, and in between we do have the mob 434 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: members assembling to throw a hack in a dumpster. And 435 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: maybe what we can add is maybe some of the 436 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: Russians who are fleeing Vladimir Putin, maybe they can Yes, 437 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: some of the cowards who will not fight for Mother Russia, 438 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: Mother Russia. We have an update on them coming up 439 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: after the news at five o'clock. You probably have heard 440 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: that Putin wants to mobilize even more troops to fight 441 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. And some young men are saying, not me, 442 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: and they're making for the border. What do you want 443 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: to die for? What do you want to die for? Earlier? 444 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: This is like, remember everybody fled to Canada in the 445 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: US during Vietnam. This is a really stupid war. Yes, 446 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: and people should have headed for Canada. And had I 447 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: been old enough to get drafted, I would have run 448 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: to Canada too. I wou'd have lived in Canada the 449 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: rest of my life, not going to a stupid war, 450 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: That's right. So that's why I realized though the country 451 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: was was so crazy, especially the older generation back then. 452 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: It's like they were vilifying people who were dodging the draft. 453 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: Of course you dodged the draft for good. I mean, look, 454 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: Look what happened, Look what that was about. We are 455 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: at the execution desk for a story that we have 456 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: followed for several weeks now, which took an odd turn 457 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: last night. It concerns the execution of a man in 458 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: Alabama by the name of Alan Eugene Miller. He murdered 459 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: three men in nineteen ninety nine. If you've seen any 460 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: pictures of him, he's hefty, which could explain what comes next. 461 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: He had objected to being executed using lethal injection, so 462 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: instead he opted for something called nitrogen hypoxia, in which 463 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: a person is simply fatally deprived of oxygen. That was 464 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 1: some time ago, allegedly there's that's even in dispute as 465 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: to whether or not he opted for that alternative method. 466 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: They tried to execute him using lethal injection last night 467 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: and it didn't go well. Prison officials began trying to 468 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: insert an intravenous line into mister Miller's veins, but he 469 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: was spared because they couldn't do it before midnight and 470 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: the death warrant expired. Did you know that there was 471 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: a death warrant with a time on it then for 472 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: the day, and so I v EN's you got to 473 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: go get another one. So if you stall out or 474 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: they struggle with the system, you get another day. Yes, 475 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: and the state did not want to use the nitrogen 476 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: hypoxia method. First, they contended that Miller didn't request it. 477 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: That's in dispute. Second of all, they thought it was 478 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: untried and they weren't certain that they wanted to do it. 479 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: They need to practice, so they moved ahead with a 480 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: lethal injection. But now that didn't work. And here comes 481 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: the kicker. In a decision late last night from the 482 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court five to four, they said the 483 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: execution could go ahead, and it can go ahead using 484 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: the nitrous the nitrogen hypoxica method. So now where are we. Well, 485 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: they did go ahead anyway with the intravenous line, but 486 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: that didn't work. So now we've got to kind of 487 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: start over. So that's that's why they ran at a time, 488 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: because the case was still bouncing around in court, and 489 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court didn't decide until late until late try, 490 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: I see, now that makes sense. And by then they 491 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: had troubled inserting the line into his veins, and then 492 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: the clock ran out. It was midnight. I guess they'll 493 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: go off the death it's fired. Is he relieved or 494 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: do you just want to get get it over with? 495 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: You don't want to go through another day of waiting 496 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: to die, because I would think you're you know, you're 497 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: adrenaline is pumping, You're totally exhausted. You know you're gonna 498 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: die anyway. It's like, all right, come on, let's just 499 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: go here. I think that's how I would feel. I 500 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to get all well, it's not like you're 501 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna sleep. They're not going to give you another last meal. 502 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: He went back to it. I didn't hear about his 503 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: last meal. He went back to his prison cell. The 504 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: Governor's not saying she thinks he has The execution could 505 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: be rescheduled at the earliest opportunity. Meanwhile, the lawyers for 506 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: Miller got a judge to agree that they're going to 507 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: photograph and he wounds he may have suffered during the 508 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: attempt to insert the intravenous line. So I guess, as 509 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: a means to try to end all this execution attempt, 510 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: why don't they use that electrode helmet that they give 511 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: the sheep in Ireland that Deborah was telling us about. 512 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: I thought the helmet with the helmet the electrodes they 513 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: used to kill the sheep on the way to the brain, 514 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: on the way to the slaughterhouse. Yeah, he'sapp the brain 515 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of electricity, and their consciousness just goes poof, 516 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, they go dark. That was the guy who 517 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: was trying to explain to Debor that it was a 518 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: humane way of Yeah, yeah, ending there. Why don't we 519 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: make it so complicated? Everything is very complicated in our society. 520 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: The bad guys know how to kill efficiently, and then 521 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: they do it all the time, every day, all day. 522 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't understand why we've got We've got all these 523 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: different courts, We've got different methods here, we have you know, 524 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: the death warrant expires, we've got to do it all 525 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: over again. I stop it. Somebody pull out a gun 526 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: and just drill him. Did you see the photo of 527 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: this fat faced goon. Yeah, he's a large guy. How 528 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: do you get that big in prison? He's been in 529 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: prison for a long time. I didn't think you get 530 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: a lot of food. I don't know, still other people's food. Yeah, 531 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: or he got kitchen duty. I mean that that is 532 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: a big boy, and that is a that is a 533 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: big double chin. There This really was a series of 534 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: dopey eras because in twenty eighteen they allowed death row 535 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 1: prisoners to choose to be killed by nitrogen hypoxia. Some 536 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: believe Miller did that to just try to delay all 537 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: this because he wasn't sure they could pull that off. 538 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: So he claims he did opt for nitrogen epoxy, but 539 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: the prison system claimed we didn't have any record of 540 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: him saying that. It's a fake. It's the whole thing 541 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: is just a fake controversy. He didn't want to be 542 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: injected because he's afraid of needles. Who cares that you're 543 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: afraid of needles. He committed three murders, three of them 544 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: at two places he used to work at. So he 545 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: committed three murders. He's got three families in grieving since 546 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: what nineteen ninety nine? Yeah, and we got to care 547 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: that he's got a fear of needles. Oh, this is 548 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: just nuts, This is just nuts. Just a bullet between 549 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: the eyes. So I guess the death warn't was running 550 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: out and they said, well, we can't. We are not 551 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: we can't kill him by nitrogen epoxy. We're not prepared 552 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: to do that, So we got to do the lethal injection. 553 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: And then there was a stay on that until the 554 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: Supreme Court OCAYD and then the death warn't ran out, 555 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: so he's still alive. 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