WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Jaylon's Role?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Wednesday. I'm sorry, it's Tuesday, August twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number twelve. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>latest edition of The Break. We are alive from the

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<v Speaker 1>SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Got Nick and Dave

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<v Speaker 1>with me, and we're gonna talk some Cowboys football here

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<v Speaker 1>for the next forty five minutes or so. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk a little bit about the Cowboys versus the Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>Will break down that game and some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that these guys saw. Dave, I see you're very enthusiastic

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<v Speaker 1>about that. We will also hopefully get to some players

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<v Speaker 1>in our I get around segment. There's some players and

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<v Speaker 1>I keep pushing this off because we get into our conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Our conversation conversations take the whole show. But there's some

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<v Speaker 1>players that before this camp is over, we really need

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<v Speaker 1>to allow you guys to let people know who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to run through some of these if

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<v Speaker 1>we can. Every day. You're paranoid that we won't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough to talk about. I know one day you push

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<v Speaker 1>the last secon. I underestimate how much we'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>hear ourselves talk. You know what, No, we know what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought that when Amber was out that

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<v Speaker 1>we would have less talking. We don't like you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I told it. I was like I said, before train

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<v Speaker 1>training camp start. I was like, me and Nick can

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<v Speaker 1>talk to a wall, like you don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about that. She if she heard that, she would have

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<v Speaker 1>been like, all right, right, because she's like she says,

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<v Speaker 1>she never talks. Yeah, she talks enough, she gets her

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<v Speaker 1>air time. I think she talks enough. Anyway, You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>we can make this thing. Here's what I'm gonna do, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to talk first about a little news

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys find out yesterday and actually this all started on

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<v Speaker 1>game day on Saturday. But there are now five players,

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<v Speaker 1>well four players and a coach for the Cowboys who

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<v Speaker 1>have been placed in the NFL's COVID nineteen Safety Protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be dan Quinn the defensive coordinator, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Watkins, Ceedee Lamb, Malie Cooker and Israel muklmu Um.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean for their availability at this point

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<v Speaker 1>now that they're in the protocol. I mean it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to answer that definitively because we don't you know, vaccination

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<v Speaker 1>status is not disclosed. Technically, we know the teams at

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three percent, so it's a good guess most of

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<v Speaker 1>if not all of them are vaccinated, just playing the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes it way easier, you know, dan quints

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn has to be um soum. So the protocol

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<v Speaker 1>if you're vaccinated is you need two negative tests within

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<v Speaker 1>a forty eight hour period, so negative tests twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>negative tests twenty four hours, So if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you are COVID negative, you can be back in

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<v Speaker 1>two days. So and then if you which I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there's a possibility that there's a breakthrough case among these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like that probably would have hit the news cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody would be reporting that if that had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess we'll see. So if for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>you have symptoms, then it's forty eight hours from your

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<v Speaker 1>last known symptoms, so that could be probably. And then

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<v Speaker 1>is it forty eight hours after your last own symptom

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have to have passed it's so test

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<v Speaker 1>or how's that work? Your symptoms subside and then you

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<v Speaker 1>do the test twenty four hours, test twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>So that seems statistically pretty unlikely, but I guess possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see. But I mean, if these guys are vaccinated,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's reasonable to think that they could be

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<v Speaker 1>back by the end of this work week. Like and

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<v Speaker 1>worst case scenario, let's assume it was a case where

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<v Speaker 1>they actually literally had contracted the virus. Yeah, you're still

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<v Speaker 1>talking maybe ten to twelve days, so and ideally you

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<v Speaker 1>would think they'd be back before the season. We are.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're in a space where any of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are in jeopardy of missing season time, which

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing of having a week between the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know, the last preseason game in the

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<v Speaker 1>first regular season game, that's fantastic. Yeah, what's interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>you know the fact that you know the cuts are today,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forgot an eighty to eighty right to eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five to eighty got not five off. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>when you move a guy to the COVID list, he's

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<v Speaker 1>technically off the roster, right, But you can't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these aren't guys that are going to get cut anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know how long they'll be coming back on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could feel like if if they're not available

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<v Speaker 1>until Friday, Yeah, you could wait until Friday to make

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<v Speaker 1>those moves if you wanted to. Yeah, for instance, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say a guy like Mkuamu, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I think that's how you say his name.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you say Mukuamu or whatever, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going I'm just going on PR gave me. I know. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like him who's on that list, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably won't play this this next game. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he could, but he just depends on how quickly he

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<v Speaker 1>can get back, so he probably doesn't. So that might

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<v Speaker 1>affect the cuts of Like, Okay, well, you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a safety sitting there that we haven't really heard much

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<v Speaker 1>of all year, hasn't done a lot. Maybe he would

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<v Speaker 1>be a guy that was cut, but then he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be if mcquamu's not playing this game. So it does

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<v Speaker 1>affect you know, that does affect the roster moves right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That brings up an interesting point. Obviously, guys like Ceedee

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb and you could probably make the same case for

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Watkins, they're probably well definitely in Cede Lamb's case.

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<v Speaker 1>On this team, there is no question. And then missing

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<v Speaker 1>preseason games really doesn't matter which of the guys be

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<v Speaker 1>it Between the other two. Do you think misses the

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<v Speaker 1>most buy if they if they can't play this week

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<v Speaker 1>and or next week, between the Lee Cooker and Israel

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<v Speaker 1>Mukomo Mukuamo, for sure, I think um. I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they didn't give him a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just think I think Hooker's here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they signed him a week into camp, but he's also

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<v Speaker 1>got to get himself ready to play. He's injured all

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<v Speaker 1>last year, right, he doesn't. He doesn't strike me as

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<v Speaker 1>the type that would be playing a ton of snaps

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<v Speaker 1>in this game anyway, And I know what you said

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, but it's still you know, getting ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the season, and he's a veteran. Sorry, Yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just gonna piggyback on that. I mean, what has

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<v Speaker 1>he's shown when since he's been back that that isn't positive.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like he's you know, in practice, he's made

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<v Speaker 1>some plays in the game. I thought he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>came in there and was physical and now they played

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<v Speaker 1>something in the second half against maybe guys that are starters.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I think everything that he's done is

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<v Speaker 1>pointing the arrow up there. And I know how Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>and whole franchise loves to steal players. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>steal talent. If you're a first round pick and you

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<v Speaker 1>know you didn't work out here for whatever the reason,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna try to capitalize on that. So unless Josh Rosen, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you were right, but I guarantee you they looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty you know, pretty closely. I'm sure they probably did,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to. I mean, and and so, I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, here's a position of need. He's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that that's out there available, available because he's hurt, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was hurt, and so I don't see why you

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<v Speaker 1>would cut him, which I mean they could. The money's negligible,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know they cut haha last year, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing stopping them, but you sort of the longer you

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<v Speaker 1>do this, you can just kind of read situations like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way that they've ramped him up and just

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<v Speaker 1>been very cautious and deliberate about the whole thing, is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to have him ready for the regular season,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not necessarily as a starter, but just somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>they can rely on for depth and somebody who's done

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<v Speaker 1>that before. Whereas mid to late sixth round pick, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>get out there and get all the reps you can

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<v Speaker 1>and show us something, whereas with Hooker they're like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>you hang out and just get yourself ready. Yeah. Just

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, I wasn't even I wasn't thinking or

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting that that Hooker would be cut. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on this team. I was thinking more and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes back I was. I was listening to Brian

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<v Speaker 1>brought us on our sister station on the fan after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. He was kind of talking about the game

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the things he noticed, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed on a couple of plays. I think Brian

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<v Speaker 1>has an obviously has a much better eye for this

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<v Speaker 1>than I do, but it seemed like on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of situations, Hooker was a little late, like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like he's trying to get get his timing back,

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<v Speaker 1>get his reaction back, his reaction time back, and and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's where I was saying, like, I think reps

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<v Speaker 1>for him right now matter getting him ready for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Reps matter for everybody, you would except for Dack. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they matter for him too, Like it would be it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been nice for him to get ten, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>But again, risk first reward. And is Mali Cooker not

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<v Speaker 1>playing against Jacksonville gonna jeopardize his roster spot? Not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. All Right, one other thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hit you guys with. I was hopeful, as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you guys are and everybody there listening, that

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<v Speaker 1>this year was going to be different from the standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>of going into every week and all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>until game time just hoping and praying that your best

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<v Speaker 1>players don't have some kind of positive tests or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But we saw this week. Obviously things can creep up

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<v Speaker 1>on you get to the game and literally you lose

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<v Speaker 1>your DC once you're at the stadium and preparing to

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<v Speaker 1>play a game. How equipped do you think the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are to withstand situations like that going into the season

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about? Sorry, well, which situations are you talking about? Any?

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<v Speaker 1>It could be any of those. Like I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>it from the standpoint of what happens if you get

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<v Speaker 1>to game day and that's Mike McCarthy and he has

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<v Speaker 1>to go home because he's you know, he's been put

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<v Speaker 1>into the protocol. What happens if it's your offensive or

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator. What happens if it's your quarterback? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different scenarios. My question for you is,

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<v Speaker 1>and this talks to This speaks to depth, This speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to um the kinds of coaches you have on your

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff. Do you have coaches who have experience doing

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<v Speaker 1>other things that can step in in a pinch? Like

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<v Speaker 1>how how do you think this team could react to

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of situations? How prepared are they? That's that

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<v Speaker 1>Those are a lot of different questions because you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the depth at all different levels. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>speak to the coaching staff first, and I'll let him

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the players or whatever. But but from the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, I mean, this thing is designed to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you have experience. That's what they they're banking on, is

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<v Speaker 1>they have experience on the staff. I believe they have

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<v Speaker 1>four coaches, four assistant coaches who have been a head

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<v Speaker 1>coach at some point. Um, I don't I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have to name them because I'm drawing a blank

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<v Speaker 1>on them. But I think there's four. Philmin Quinn, Um, Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm blanking John Fossil. Fossil was into him for a

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<v Speaker 1>little while. There's yeah, there's two. I think there's I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's actually one more as well. Um, but but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and so that kind of stuff happens now.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Witt was the guy that stepped in. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>with both McCarthy and Quinn. Understands this defense, understand what

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn's trying to do with the calls, So it was

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<v Speaker 1>an easy move for him to slide in there. And

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<v Speaker 1>mcadoo's the fourth one, and he's on the staff as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's brought in and he should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to maybe help if something like that happens on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive side. And thus Myers got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>experience too. So I think that they're equipped that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I think what they need to be ready

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<v Speaker 1>for is have those conversations we always talk about and

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<v Speaker 1>it's first and goal in the eight. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know if I've got four downs, get ahead of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Be like that. They need to be ahead of this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Go what happens if we just saw it in a

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game? What happens in a regular season game? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell you this COVID doesn't care if it's

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<v Speaker 1>preseason or regular season, and the NFL yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL protocols don't care either, so it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, which maybe that's beneficial that obviously you'd

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<v Speaker 1>prefer not, but you know, a little dry run that

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<v Speaker 1>how to handle this um could be good. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just the game either. I mean they went into

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<v Speaker 1>the virtual They did their virtual mode for the last

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<v Speaker 1>two days before they came back to work. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, if they're not equipped for this, from

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<v Speaker 1>purely a logistical standpoint, shame on them, because you had

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<v Speaker 1>a whole year of getting real used to it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, so I think they're ready. Yes, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>depth sure, I mean you can handle it if Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Gallup goes down. But I mean you know, if Dak,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if Dak had to leave the game, you're screwed.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know that there's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>you can do about that other than hope for the best.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why getting vaccinated it's important. Yeah, But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean as we as we all know though, even when

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<v Speaker 1>you're vaccinated, sure, if you come up with a positive

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<v Speaker 1>test on a game day, right, you still got to

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<v Speaker 1>sit for specific amount of time. Anything you can do

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<v Speaker 1>to make that number as low as possible. Right. And

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, vaccinations help, supposedly, that's at least

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<v Speaker 1>what we're told is the vaccinations help with making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe you don't get it in some situations where

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<v Speaker 1>you would have gotten it otherwise. So I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>all those things that are involved, and it just helps, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I like, yeah, there's there's no fool proof,

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<v Speaker 1>Life in s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk Cowboys versus Texans. Cowboys lose twenty fourteen at home

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<v Speaker 1>in their what I guess is for them is their

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<v Speaker 1>third preseason game for the league. Gets week two of

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason. Let's start first. I want each you guys

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<v Speaker 1>to give me an impression you came away from the

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<v Speaker 1>game with just one. It can be about a player,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be about the team, whatever you choose. A

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<v Speaker 1>start with you Dave, first team defense. It was they're

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<v Speaker 1>the only people that you know. I really feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you could fairly evaluate. I got, you know, Cooper Rush

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<v Speaker 1>coming in unexpectedly and playing well. But it was a

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<v Speaker 1>dress rehearsal for the defense and oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have the guy that calls their defense, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn started the game behind the eight ball, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quick change, turnover in the red zone and all of

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<v Speaker 1>that considered, I thought they played really well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans are terrible, but they didn't allow a third

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<v Speaker 1>down conversion while they were out there. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they gave up the touchdown, but again, that possession started

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<v Speaker 1>on like their sixteen yard line. Some questionable run defense

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<v Speaker 1>there at the very beginning, but they got it. They

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<v Speaker 1>got it buckled down. Parsons had a couple flash plays

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<v Speaker 1>OsO Diggy Zooa continues to look pretty impress and just

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<v Speaker 1>buy and large. I mean, they played an entire half

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<v Speaker 1>and looked pretty good doing so. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest sample size we have and it was encouraging,

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<v Speaker 1>I albeit against a pretty bad offense. Ye speaking about Parsons,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all react at that one play when

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<v Speaker 1>he was he got by the last scrimmage and he's

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<v Speaker 1>chasing down a quarterback in the way. Just watching it

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<v Speaker 1>in person and the closing speed that he had, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not amazing. Doesn't do it justice to say, he got

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<v Speaker 1>behind the line of scrimmage because he blitzed and the

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<v Speaker 1>center picked him up, and he was like, Nope, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to block me. Get the hell out of

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<v Speaker 1>my way. You're a big guy, but I'm faster. And

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<v Speaker 1>Osa did it like a stunt that kind of helped

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<v Speaker 1>free him up. He took on. He came at the

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<v Speaker 1>center from the other side and pushed him back into

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<v Speaker 1>the into the guard, and so Osa had a big

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<v Speaker 1>hand in freeing Parsons up to hurry that play. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's what I'm talking about when I say flash,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they had a couple moments like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody just hit the R two button on him back

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<v Speaker 1>in the old guild No, you know, PlayStation just he

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<v Speaker 1>just shot out of a can in it. YEA, all

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<v Speaker 1>right for me. And I'm not pushing the panic button.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I don't my hands thot on it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm locating. I know, I want to know where it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just know where the panic button is. About

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<v Speaker 1>this offensive line, oh I'm not there yet. I'm with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but this offensive line hasn't looked great. They got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to be there together and it didn't look great.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can say, yes, I think Dak will help everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Zeke helps everyone. But I didn't think this

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line needed these all these guys to help them

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<v Speaker 1>look good. I thought it was kind of the other

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<v Speaker 1>way around. So they didn't look that great. The other night,

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<v Speaker 1>Lyell's not looking too hot on the right side. Tying

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<v Speaker 1>kind of is what it is. He's he's gonna be fine,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, Zach. I think they're gonna be fine. But

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't look good against the Texans, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>something I want to look at again. I didn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think they looked that bad. I expect, like

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<v Speaker 1>once when Cooper got in there, it looked pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they went to seventy five yards in five plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle did get beat. Garrett held onto that ball for

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<v Speaker 1>a long I put that on Garrett. He did, but

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<v Speaker 1>it the I'm just looking at the play itself and

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<v Speaker 1>the rep for Lyle. Yeah, that shocked me that he

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<v Speaker 1>was because he was like his techniqueals all everything about

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<v Speaker 1>it just looked bad. And I was like, That's not

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<v Speaker 1>what I was expecting from Lyle. If that were Steel

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<v Speaker 1>out there, I'd be like, Okay, Gil, what you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get of the ball. You're kind of my hell, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>expecting more. You know, he looks rusty. He does. That's

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you could see it Summit training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he he looks. I mean he's and he's lost

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<v Speaker 1>some some weight, which I don't he's lost a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of strength, but he's been the type of guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been able to sort of overpower people, and

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<v Speaker 1>he just doesn't he doesn't have that right now. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>he gets that back and he gets gets in a groove,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not I'm not gonna say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's time to worry just yet. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have your eyes on them because you're

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<v Speaker 1>expecting so much from them. Yeah, Honestly, the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I even noticed that play initially when that happened with

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle is because there'd been moments I just noticed here

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<v Speaker 1>and there where I was like, you know, somebody would

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<v Speaker 1>beat him around the edge, and I'm like, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm used to sing, And so I made it

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<v Speaker 1>a point going into this game I wanted to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle a little bit more for the time he was

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and then that play happened. And it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I don't know, it's just not what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>used to sing for. Okay, I'm gonna take you back

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<v Speaker 1>the two to three years of training camp. We thought

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods was ready to be a baller because he

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<v Speaker 1>kept he was beating Travis Frederick constantly. Yeah, come to

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<v Speaker 1>find out, Travis Frederick is not to break some news somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not breaking news. I'm just saying we were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fooled because Travis Frederick was not one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>He actually retired for the season or was I R

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<v Speaker 1>forsed to retire? Sorry, it was I R for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was like, okay, well that's why. Well

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm trying to figure is Drance Armstrong just just

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<v Speaker 1>kicking everyone's ass or is Lyle not what he was before?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? That's that's my point out, and that that

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<v Speaker 1>could be part of it, that dran'ce is just taking

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<v Speaker 1>that next step, because everything about his camp was certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, noteworthy, and we talked a lot about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is which was like, were they really battling

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<v Speaker 1>or was it a situation where Lyle maybe is just

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<v Speaker 1>rusty and it's gonna have to work back, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a coincidence that Lyle's played more than

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<v Speaker 1>any of the starting five. I mean he played in Canton,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I mean, for guys on seventy million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>contracts don't play in the Hall of Fame game very often,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't And you know, yeah, he's looked rusty

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<v Speaker 1>for a more like on and off throughout training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you're right, and he yeah, I think he

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<v Speaker 1>just needs time probably, But Darence was beaten more than Lyle.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rance has beaten a lot of guys turns on

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<v Speaker 1>other teams too. He beat up on Tyrn in practice

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<v Speaker 1>like a week ago, like he beat Tyrant two or

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<v Speaker 1>three times for SAX. So yeah, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm with you, Nick, I guess the point is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hit the alarm button because I

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<v Speaker 1>implicitly trust these offensive linemen when they're healthy, to be good. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy is more of an issue to me than rust.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they can work back from that. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they'll work into form. I feel like by

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<v Speaker 1>about week three four, this offensive line, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they're healthy, will be clicking and you will see the

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<v Speaker 1>production that you expect to see from them. I do

0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>think though right now, I'm a little bit like, okay,

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I need to see that progression, like I need to

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:32.200
<v Speaker 1>see you getting a little bit better and getting back

0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in that form. I would argue that they progressed in

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>that game. First possession looked awful, second possession not a

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 1>lot better. Third possession was rush and they just right

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 1>down the field. How long did the ones stay out

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 1>there on the offensive line? They were there for at

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 1>least two series with Cooper and they yeah, I mean,

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and then scored two touch they you have to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know this. How long were the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive starters for Houston? And again, this is not That's

0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 1>not a roster that should impress you, at least not

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 1>at the top. So, I mean, I get it, but

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not that worried about the offensive line yet,

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>while still allowing that you are right that they haven't

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>looked up to the standard that we held for them.

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>But everybody standard. Everybody will help each other. You know,

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Dak will help them, The line should help Dak zeke

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 1>vice versa. All that. So get all the pieces in,

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 1>let's see how it works. Let's talk a little bit

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>about the quarterbacks. Cooper Rush was ten of twelve ninety

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 1>seven yards passing two touchdowns. Karrett Gilbert was three of

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 1>five or thirty yards, zero touchdowns and also had a

0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:39.320
<v Speaker 1>fumble lost. Where do you think that backup QB battle

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.800
<v Speaker 1>stands at this point? Can we just have a larger

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>conversation for a second about some of the decision making

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that's happening here. Absolutely. I thought about it with Malie

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Cooker as well. It's like, we don't want him. He's

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>not he's not in the offseason program, he's not part

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 1>of the install in the spring, and then like two

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>days into camp they're like, yeah, we want him, never mind.

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And maybe he wasn't healthy, but like he could assigned

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>him and had him here training and getting up to snuff.

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>That's weird, weird that that was when they decided to

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>do it. Weird that they decided to work Connor Williams

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>at center two days into training camp, not during the

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.639
<v Speaker 1>spring or any other time during the four years that

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>he's been here. And it's weird that this became a

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>quarterback competition a week before camp's over, because as sure

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>as hell, hasn't been up to this point. Am I

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 1>mistaken about that? Garrett Gilbert has been the guy? Is

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that good? Sorry? I was going to ask this question.

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Is that because up until this point, maybe they hadn't

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>seen enough from Cooper Rush had made them think he's

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>really battling for this position. They never gave him a shot.

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was he never He had not taken

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a rep with starters until he went into that game, right,

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So what I'm saying like, is that not because maybe

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>something they've seen over the last week or two made

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>them say, hey, we ought to give him a shot.

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And Gilbert wasn't having the great start there, so maybe

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that that all kind of call ned in him getting

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that shot, right, Maybe I did, maybe so like he

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 1>looked that amazing as the second string quarterback for enough

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>consecutive practices and then which you know, it sounds like

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe that was their plan to give him more time.

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But like the optics of Gilbert in the dress rehearsal game,

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.479
<v Speaker 1>the optics of him getting yanked after two possessions certainly

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>made it look like he had done something wrong, which

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he didn't look good, So that's a fair point,

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>But it just you know, again, like when you're you're

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>here every day looking at it and seeing who's taking

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the first team reps, who's doing this in the walkthrough,

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>And there hasn't been a single indication this entire time

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that it was much of a competition. Maybe those are

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>conversations that are different behind closed doors, but it's just

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to me, And to answer your question, I

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the hell is going to happen. So

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>now Hooper's taken the first team reps all this week, supposedly,

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>you'd imagine he's going to play a lot against Jacksonville.

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 1>And this is huge because whoever's the backup, whoever is

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>not the backup, the likely do as they're not on

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>this team, right, yeah, I mean they could be on

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the practice squad. True. I mean, because I think I

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>still think you can get those guys on the practice

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 1>squad if you don't want to put Denucci on there,

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and uh, we'll get to him. Wow, We'll get to him. Wow.

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Okay, I get it. He's not he's not Romo.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 1>He's not he's not gonna be He's probably not gonna

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>be that. We we compared him a lot to it.

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.640
<v Speaker 1>He's not there yet. But I mean if you want

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to develop him, the practice squad and the scout team

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>is a good place to do it. Uh, he will have.

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>He will be more beneficial on the scout team than

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Garrett Gilbert or Cooper Rush if they are on it way,

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.160
<v Speaker 1>because he's he's athletic. He helps you more. He helps

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you more when the players that kick their ass, like

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a Kyler Murray that runs all over the place or

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson that runs all over the place, he will

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>give them a better look for what they might see

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>than a guy I like Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert.

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>So in my opinion, I think he's the guy that

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 1>stays on those on the practice squad. And I think

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.479
<v Speaker 1>if they whoever they cut between Gilbert or Rush, they

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>probably don't. That's my thought. That's I completely agree with you,

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>And if I had to guess, I wouldn't be surprised

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>if Tanuci winds up on the practice squad for that

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>very reason. You know they used to use after they

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>transition Jamille Showers to safety, they would use him as

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the practice squad quarterback when they played a mobile quarterback

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>like that. Stuff's useful, and you know practice during the

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>season is not what we see out here, like, that's

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>not what you see in Oxnard. You know you're it's

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it's basically a glorified walkthrough to give the team looks

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 1>at what the opposition does. Now, I will say this though,

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like every guy on the on

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the roster, every guy on the every quarterback that they

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 1>face is going to be a running quarterback. So I

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 1>guess you do have to to ask the question, is

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>or is he going to give them a good look

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>with throwing the ball and beating this guy and all that,

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>because you know, because you got you got some of

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>those got a face. But again, like and we obviously

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and bend Nucci has not been good. Let's be clear,

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>but the quality of the throw is not that important

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in practice. I know that sounds stupid, but it's more about,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>like what concepts are we looking at? What can the

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback do? Where's he going to throw the ball from,

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>where's the receiver on this particular play that they like

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to run? Like whether or not the throw is worth

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a crap isn't as important as giving the team a

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>look at what's going to happen on Sunday, if that

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, and if a guy gets beat deep in

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a scout team, Reggie Davis or whoever it is, has

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>got your guy beat and the ball's not there. I mean,

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you know he was still beat. You still he was beat.

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>You still know that Denucci could throw it fifteen yards

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>over the guy's head and it looks like crap from

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the outside, and the coaches are like, yeah, that's what

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Russ is going to do on Sunday and it's gonna

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>be right where it needs to be. So now you know,

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>now you need kind of yeah, you can watch that

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and see. But so, I mean, that's why, that's why

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>he could be beneficial. That's a reason right there. You

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>also for practice. All practice squad spots though, are also

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's there's a lot of ways to look

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>at it. If it's close between Gilbert and Rush, and

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>right now, we always we're going game by games, so

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>we think, oh, it's not close because Russia looks way better.

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But let's say it is. Let's say it's pretty close.

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Because it has been a close competition. You know, you

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>can still put a guy on the practice squad and

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>then he's still in the mix for if something were

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to happen to your quarterback. You could move him. You know,

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Danucci's not playing any games so and he's not probably

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>a guy you're gonna have developed for the future. I

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>just don't I don't see it out of him. I

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>don't see anything that's not gonna say like he's gonna

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>do it. So I can make a case if I'm

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>in a debate class, and I wouldn't want to be

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>against you since you're a state champion, But if I'm

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>in the debate class, I could take the side to

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>keep in Denucci. I could also say, you're going to

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Canada because that's what your career is. Keep him, keep

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>him meaning on the practice squad right, keep him meaning

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>on the problem he's not fit your back. I'm I

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>am sick of the over the top hate that de

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Nucci has been getting. And to be clear, he's been

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>really bad, but he's the fourth quarterback. Like but the

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>venom that people build up for this guy, well, that's

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>also because you gotta understand the nuance to that, because

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>people feel like it was a pick that was made

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>out of personal relationship more so than out of out

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of out of the guy's ability, and so far on

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the field, you haven't seen the ability he was picked

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>ten spots from the ship just because they went to Pittsburgh.

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that, that the narrative. I'll tell you this, that's

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>what you see on that. I think that's what you

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>see on social media. A lot of the narrative is

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>still here. McCarthy has a tie to him because they're

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>from Pittsburgh and he knows his like youth basketball coach.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the narrative. And again I'm not saying that

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.239
<v Speaker 1>right here. Then I'm not saying that narrative is right.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is what I'm saying is that's why

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the venom is out there. So just understand that's why

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>people are acting in the way they We're talking about

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a guy that was picked like ten spots from the

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>end of the draft. I I just and not like

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>nobody's a bigger draft geek than me, but like, I

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how people can work up that much emotion

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>about players who don't matter. Basically that I mean, and

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>no offense to men. But now if he manages to

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>get up to where they thought, for what for any reason,

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>they thought he was the backup quarterback, then he does matter.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's my point. It's like it's not going to happen, right,

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>And even I'm sitting here defending Ben d Nucci. If

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 1>he's on the fifty three, I will free you're ready,

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I will be ready to be mad. If he's on

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the fifth. I think we all agree on that. That

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Yeah. Anyway, Um, I'll step out on a

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>limb and say, the backup quarterback is on this roster

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>for better or for worse. I agree with you, because

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>there's not going to be There won't be somebody available

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that they're willing to pay for, Like you're not going

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to trade for somebody from Chicago. If they get cut,

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they're probably gonna have a better market than what the

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>cowboys are gonna be willing to pay. They're Jerry Jones

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>said it this morning, like they are. They are bending

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>over backward to let you know that their investment is

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>in the starter. They're like, well, what can you do

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>when you pay? I think, but it's it's harder. It

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>is much harder. I acknowledge that if you're a backup

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that is available and he's got some experience, and

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>let's say he's got some interest from other teams, when

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at your options and the money is going

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to factor into it as well. But let's just say

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that it kind of it's about even you think that

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are an intriguing team for that for that player

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>with with Dak coming off an ankle and career, with

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Dak has a shoulder, you know, a strain, and that

0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>he's missed all the training camp. I mean, do you

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>look at it and go up, man, I could come

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>here and maybe because Andy Dalton came to Dallas knowing

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that Dak could never missed the game ever, and then

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>he plays a lot and that that helped him that

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>game that got him more money. It doesn't look like

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen, but man like and not in

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like a like I'm not reveling in somebody's misfortune. But

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it would just be kind of funny if Dalton was

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>the odd man out in Chicago and was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have that house in Dallas, like it could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not, you just never know, but that would be

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<v Speaker 1>that would be pretty shocked. So I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys would be willing to pay what another team would

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to pay. Probably some team at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the season this year is going to lose their quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the nature of the NFL. So if he's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting out, even if he waits a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's sitting out there, he's gonna make more money

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<v Speaker 1>going to that team to be their presumptive starter than

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<v Speaker 1>he would make as a backup that's got signed at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of training camp for the Cowboys. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>right about a lot, but I just I vividly remember,

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>we're not right about everything, is what I should say.

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<v Speaker 1>But I vividly remember, like December, before last season was

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<v Speaker 1>even over, we were just like, yeah, like they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come to an under They're gonna come to an agreement

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<v Speaker 1>with that. They're gonna pay him and Garrett Gilbert will

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it might be Cooper Rush, but that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>bit about a couple of defensive guys and how they

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<v Speaker 1>perform in this Cowboys versus Texans game. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I say that? Did said get your oh fan pack,

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<v Speaker 1>not fannie pack. I thought you said fanny pack. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, we're given away fanny packs. Okay, okay, some

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 1>people have fanny packs, do they? Yeah? Were one to run.

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's more it's not like what you're imagining.

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like slimmer, but like I put my phone in it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Dave about it. I said, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>fanni pack? Is a training camp? And You're like, yeah, what?

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's I used to like a little

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 1>aggressive times press covers back in the day. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to have to like tie my car key to my

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<v Speaker 1>shoe if I wanted to go for a run and

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.399
<v Speaker 1>all that stupid stuff. You don't carry a water bottle

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<v Speaker 1>and put it in the water bottle? No, why don't

0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I carry a water bottle? That's annoying because you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be out running, just drink when I get I don't

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>when I look at stuff like that, I just think

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>like I'm old, like Dave's Dave's younger hip all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's the thing. Fanny packs are cool. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go as far as I do, You're I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really question it anymore because I don't. I do

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>think they're I think they're more back than they used

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 1>to be cool. Because he's probably not called that. Everything

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>goes in the side. Well, let's let the team over

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>there with the fan club. No, they may need to

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>get fanny packs. Like, let him know that. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>to training camp benefits and more. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>final the s WBC Morgan Studios. At the start, let's

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>talk about the defense to Broll Cox, he continues to

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>impress here in the preseason, how much do you how

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<v Speaker 1>much do you anticipate he will play at linebacker when

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the regular season begins? Or is he really just trying

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to make this team and he's probably gonna be a

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>special teams guy for now? He ain't trying to make Jack.

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>He's on he's on the D he's been on the team. Um,

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's making a case for why he should play.

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to make the numbers worked to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with I mean, we do we want to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to do this? Yet, we'll take that. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about I think number nine, we'll talk

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 1>about that. And I think you keep six linebackers active

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<v Speaker 1>to the game, wow, to the game? Okay, yeah? Is that?

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought five was normal to the game. Six It's

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<v Speaker 1>fine if two of them are going to be core

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>special teams guys, which I believe Gifford and Cox will be.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think Gifford's gonna make the teams? I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think you keep six. For sure, I would

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>put them on. I think who I mean Francis Bernard

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>as he played No, But I'm looking at some other

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>positions where I'm looking at other positions. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>about linebacker. This is about I'm worried about being able

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<v Speaker 1>to what my cut's gonna be on the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about the secondary. What the number I'm gonna

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>need to keep there? Um, I think there are some

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>positions you maybe you want that six wide receiver. I

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 1>think there are a number of positions on this team

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, I think I might want an extra guy. Linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>one where I feel like it's a luxury to have

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<v Speaker 1>an extra guy because I think five give me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Like, I think I can get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>out of those five. I hear you, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this is a I don't think to a backup at

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<v Speaker 1>each spot is really deep. I mean, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play even if you play four three, if you play

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<v Speaker 1>four to three, that's a backup at each spot. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, three linebackers, six guys. That's not overly deep,

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>even especially if you play a three fourth game, even

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 1>though some of those ends would be defensive pass rushers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think six is a solid number. I don't think

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it's heavy. I think it's probably just I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into next Monday, we're gonna do a show,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna try to cut the roster, and I think

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>that's when we can really kind of break those things down.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, Dave, I just you know, fifty three players,

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty five offense, twenty five defense, three specialists. My guests

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>would just be you can go heavier on defense with

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>this roster, Like, I think the offensive positions are going

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<v Speaker 1>to look a lot lighter. Two quarterbacks, three running backs.

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<v Speaker 1>Could probably even get away with having two if you

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to, because I mean doubt all goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the practice squad or whatever. But three running backs, three

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends for sure, Like, I can't think of why

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you would need more than that, And if Connor Williams

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<v Speaker 1>is your sinner, you could even maybe get away with

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 1>going light at offensive line. I get that that might

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>bother people, but haven't seen anything from Terren Steel and

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Tie and Seki that makes you think that they gotta

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>have both. So you know, maybe you could even go

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>eight or nine on the offensive line instead of nine

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>or ten, and then that opens you up you can

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>go heavy at every defensive position, and I think they should. Okay,

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Millie Cooker. He's got his first action

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 1>in the preseason. What'd you guys see from him? I

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>agree with what you said that. I agree with what

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you said that. Brian said that, you know, he looked

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>like he was getting reacclimated. I thought, you know, I

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>think of him as a coverage guy. It was a

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>nice tackle. He laid on that receiver going over the middle,

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>like one of the first plays of the third quarter.

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>He also came flying in on run support in the

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>middle of a like it was just behind the line

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage. No, I don't know if he was feeling

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>great after that play. He kind of maybe got the

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>worst of it, but he was. He was in there.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>He was in the especially for a guy that's free safety.

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I look at that position. I've always thought the safety position,

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 1>especially in the last fifteen twenty years, is an interchangeable spot.

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think gone are the days that you've

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>got the you know, hard hitting Ronnie Lott guy, and

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>you've got your ball hawking safety. That's a free safety.

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think a lot of them can kind

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of play both roles. So sorry, I think Barry, like

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Barry Church was, you know, Kean O'Neill, I'm sure was

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 1>more of a strong safety and all that. But these

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>guys can do multiple things. So I do think Kauzee

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and Hooker could both play together if they're out there,

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>and Donovan Wilson too. That's it was either our mail

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>bag today or yesterday. But somebody was like, well, mail

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>ban couldn't Kazy and Hooker conceivably play at the same time.

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you know, I don't expect that

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:44.759
<v Speaker 1>to happen, because you got you want to find a

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>way to get Donovan Wilson on the field. And again,

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, they are interchangeable, but one I think is

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>still a little bit more physical than the other. But

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I definitely think that's something that could happen. And they

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.879
<v Speaker 1>also used the three safety look at one point during

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>that game, so you could have the two of him

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>out there with Donovan Wilson. So that's that's interesting, you know.

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I it's easy to just think of it as, yeah,

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 1>like he's a free so he's got to play free,

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's not necessarily true. So talking to me about

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Bradley and I I think he had a there was

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>one play I remember specifically. It was a really nice

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>tackle for a loss. He had He kind of kind

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of stone wall the defensive I think it was either

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a tight end or a or a tackle. I was

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.440
<v Speaker 1>trying to move him and he kind of kept the

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>edge on him, set the edge and then makes the

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>tackle behind a line of scrimmage. My question for you

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>guys is is there a room for him if the

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.959
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are going to have Chauncey Gholston on the final

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.800
<v Speaker 1>roster without moving him to some sort of pup or

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I R or whatever like that. Is there room for

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>him actually to make this team? I don't think so.

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't see. I mean, I forget the room.

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 1>How about the need? Is there a need for him

0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to be on the team. I don't. I mean, other

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>than you want to keep developing him, But I mean,

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think he's a practice squad guy.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>If he gets claimed, he gets he gets claimed. I mean,

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I and less you think he's better than bash him,

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>which I don't think that they think that way. I

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's Dorn's armstrong. I believe is better than Bashaim,

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>or at least he's showing that. Either way. Those are

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>your third and fourth pass rushers. And I think when

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>it's all said and done, I think they're gonna keep

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith on the team. I think Jaalen Smith is

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>going to be more of a pass rusher than any

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>other thing. And I think he's a guy that rushes

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>off the edge more than he does anything else. Have

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 1>we seen him doing a lot of that? So far.

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I've seen more Parsons doing that than him, right,

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen Jalen doing him out. That means neither

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>have the Bucks, neither have the Chargers, neither have I mean,

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I think Jalen Smith will be rushing in the pastor

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that you gotta if you're gonna keep him,

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's an if. But if you're gonna

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>keep him, you gotta figure out where to play him.

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 1>And I think he's a straight line runner. I don't

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:50.439
<v Speaker 1>think he's a backpeddler. I don't think he's a side

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to side. I don't think he's a reactor. I think

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a go get the guy, use your god given

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:58.320
<v Speaker 1>ability to go up there and smash someone. That's a

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of money to be your fifth that's pass rusher.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>That part of it's not even that was in March.

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>They decided in March he was worth it and a

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. So he's gonna be a lot of

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>money whether or not he's on this to football team

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>or another football team or nowhere. I mean, it's a

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. So now you got to figure out that.

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean that Hays in the barn on that. Now

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you got to figure out where to play him. And

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a pass rusher more than anybody. But

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess what I'm saying though, is like here, here,

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, But when does he get that opportunity?

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Who are you going to take off the field to say, yeah,

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:31.480
<v Speaker 1>put him out there to do that when he's the

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>fifth best guy, sixth best guy, Maybe that does that

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on your team. Well not only that, which sorry and

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been saying that for two years, but like watching

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>him in the preseason, I'm like, it's even fast enough

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to rush the quarter I don't know. I don't know

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that he is he even fast enough to rush the

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>quarterback right now? No, you're right, you're right, And that's

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>why you know. It's it's like, you know, like when

0:44:58.000 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>they do when they go to two tight ends. I

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 1>mean there's a reason, and they do it because they

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to show you could run, we

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:04.839
<v Speaker 1>could pass out of this. You don't know what we're doing.

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna have to be that element where he can

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 1>pull back and be in coverage, you know, hold your breath,

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>or he's gonna be rushed the passer on. But again,

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I think there are other guys that do that better

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>already on this team, Which that's why I'm like talking

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about you're talking about the armstrong bash him and well

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about that can also pull out, I

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>mean they also you know, drop it to coverage thing

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>also drop it to coverag I'm talking about Parsons obviously,

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Like he's the guy that also can drop into coverage,

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>he can blitz, he can do all that. So why

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>would I want to put Jalen in that type of

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:36.479
<v Speaker 1>position when I got a guy who does that extremely well, Well,

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>just because they can do it from a different way,

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 1>because he could do it and from the middle of

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the field linebacker, he can move back into the line.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's just there's different aspects of it. And

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about guys that are like pass rushers that

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I think there's an element of surprise that he could

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>blitz or he could he could you know, pull back

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>into coverage. I just never, honestly, and we've talked about this,

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I know both of you guys have talked about this.

0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I've never really seen Jalen be a really good pass

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:02.920
<v Speaker 1>rushing all right, I've seen I've seen him rushed before,

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and i've seen most of the time he gets washed out.

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.279
<v Speaker 1>So I'm all right, I'm gonna railroad the show. Okay,

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 1>But so what do you want to do. You're you're

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>your business, You're a business savvy guy. Here, You've already

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>spent nine million dollars on it. You've already you've already

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:21.240
<v Speaker 1>bought this car or this house, and it leaks oil. Okay,

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>what do you want to do with it? You've already

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>bought it, and you can't sell it. Here's my thing.

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean I want to take it out for

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a drive if I know it's gonna break down while

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm out on the drive. So it's one of those

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>things where I may have already sunk the cost. And

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 1>if that's the case, I'll keep it in parked in

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>my driveway. It's gonna look good my driveway. People are

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna drive by, they're gonna say that guy is a

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>great car. But at the end of the day, I'm

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>not driving it because I don't want to necessarily break down.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I hate breaking down while I'm out, and that means

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I gotta call somebody come pick me up, toe the

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 1>thing back to my house so we can look pretty.

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Now it's gonna look pretty on the back of the

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>told truck. I'm sorry, I'm just not that's not my thing.

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>This sounds like this sounds like I had set him

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 1>up for this earlier that and did not that was

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>great saying like that. I don't see him as being

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And again, I know sometimes it comes off as with

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 1>bashon Jalen. I'm not trying to bash Jalen. I'm looking

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>at this training camp and I'm looking at all these

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 1>linebackers they got, and they got a ton of linebackers

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that can play. I don't think Jalen is better than him.

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I think right now Jalen is fourth. No, I'm sorry,

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 1>he's probably fifth best linebacker on this team. I don't

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>think you make a role for him if he's not

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>the best one to do that role. In my opinion,

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily disagree with anything you're saying. I'm not

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm mister Bayou Bengal. I'm not ready to put Cox

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>over him, just in the sense that you know, he's

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>playing backups. It's still the preseason and he's been great.

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready to

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>say that it's upside. Of course, it's there. Yeah. Well,

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>but but ahead, that's beside the point. Even at best,

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 1>he's still the fourth linebacker on this team. And yeah,

0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think the Cowboys need to have the

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>guts to limit him to like a role that would

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>see him on the field thirty percent of the time

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>or less. Honestly, So here's a question, you won't I think.

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that. I didn't say that they wouldn't.

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I just they need to have the guts to do.

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>But but here's the question. So that all being said,

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:20.879
<v Speaker 1>name a role where he is at least third best

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>on this team at that role or I mean I

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 1>don't that's whatever, but early early down's base package. If

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>he wants if they if you want to put him

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>out there as the sam in situations where do you

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>feel confident that they're going to run the ball, that's okay.

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>He can still do some of the third best. I

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't put him third bas best, But I mean, who

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 1>who would would you put over? I mean, I think

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I would take Neil over him. I can. I mean,

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>because my issue with Jalen is more I don't think

0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>he I don't think his pre snap I didnification of

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>what's going on is great. I think he takes a

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of false steps and then I think he can't recover.

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>So goal line, I need you to know what's coming,

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and I need you to hit it quick because you

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have much time to react, like you gotta get

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>there quick in order to keep the guy from getting

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in the end zone. So again, I'm just having a

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>hard time finding where I think he is the best

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>at a role, second best at a role, even third

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:23.839
<v Speaker 1>best at a role. If it which means somebody has

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to come off to Phil that's better than him. If

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it's early down and they're in big personnel, I'm I

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>can live with. He's got to be better than Neil

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.879
<v Speaker 1>of getting hit by a defensive end. Yeah, he's more.

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's a he's a bigger player. He can

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:40.319
<v Speaker 1>hold up against some of that better. And I mean,

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 1>no knock on it, he's got to do it though.

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>He can't go around the other side, because that's that's

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>one thing that's a knock on him, and we're seeing it.

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 1>He goes. He avoids the big blockers at times, and

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that sounds good because that's doesn't hurt as much. But

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you've just you've just created a huge gap because that

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.359
<v Speaker 1>guy just took you where you wanted to go. I'll

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 1>give you one area where I do think he is

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 1>really valuable to having this team. Don't say it what

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, availability, Like, you can't argue it's availability.

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>You got a lot of guys that have not been

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 1>available at that position. He's been available, so that that's

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>matters in the NFL. Can't you be available? I've had

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that be the reason why he needs to be here.

0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I've had that argument with a million people of like

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and nobody's trying to say Jalen is amazing or should

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 1>be starting with all these other options. But with what

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 1>this team has been through, it's not a bad thing

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to have a guy who's played a thousand snaps in

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the season as your top option if somebody gets hurt, right,

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>because the likely is that somebody will, which and that's

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about this a lot. It's it's interesting

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I get that, and I hit me the other day

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>where I was like, if they were to cut him,

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 1>it says like, not only is he not one of

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>their three or four best linebackers, they also have such

0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>a low opinion of him that it would be a

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:03.319
<v Speaker 1>problem for the team and the development of the team

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're like, this guy want to go, He's got

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to go. He is a problem. If he's not starting,

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>he will make life miserable for everybody. That is the

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>signal that it sends if they were to cut him.

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not one hundred percent like, I don't think

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the case. I don't think that that would happen.

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And so does it suck that you're paying seven and

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:25.320
<v Speaker 1>a half million dollars for a backup? Absolutely? But what

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:27.320
<v Speaker 1>depth isn't a bad thing? Well, I mean, all you

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>have to do is listen to Jerry Jones talk this

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.320
<v Speaker 1>morning on the Fan one or five three. He was

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>asked specifically about Jalen Smith's role, and his four minute

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.879
<v Speaker 1>answer about the depth of the linebacker did not ever

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>include Jalen Smith by name at all. That was alarming

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:50.879
<v Speaker 1>to me because because now you're like, you're not even

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>mentioning the question was about Jalen and then you just

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 1>talked about the depth, which means I'm not talking about him.

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>We've got depth, which means maybe we are. Maybe he's

0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>not in the debt And I don't know, I don't ever,

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you never you will get very You're getting a very

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 1>tough situation. You ever start trying to figure out what

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Jerry's meaning by what he says and doesn't say. But

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 1>that that was something that stood out to me too

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 1>when I heard the response. But ultimately, I just think

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it comes back to and I'm a big believer, and

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>once you got a guy on your team, it doesn't

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:21.440
<v Speaker 1>matter the amount of money, you play them where you

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>need to play him. I'm just having a hard time

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 1>figuring out what is the role where I'm like, he's

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 1>my right option to be out there as opposed to

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 1>somebody else, And I'm having a hard time finding that

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 1>for him. That's going to be the challenge for these

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>coaches or you know, shoot I personally, if he doesn't

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 1>play snaps sometimes that's fine with me. Again, like the

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 1>money's keep getting an active guy. I doubt that you've

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 1>just been saying you want to make six act six

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>linebackers active. If he's playing special teams, obviously he can

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>get on the field playing special teams, you would think

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you would, hope, So I think I

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 1>think you'd just probably release. I think you would release.

0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 1>That's if I mean, if it were to get to

0:52:59.880 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a point where Jalen Smith isn't getting a jersey on

0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 1>game day and then yeah, that's that. That would be

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:07.959
<v Speaker 1>a huge drop. I have a hard time just thinking

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>that happens, because it's just going from being the contract

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:16.400
<v Speaker 1>he's got to being like the every down starter. Did

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<v Speaker 1>he play the most nouns any defender last year? Absolutely?

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:21.759
<v Speaker 1>He was the only defender who was available every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Right to go from that to then just like just

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<v Speaker 1>like that and not actually getting any benefit from cutting him,

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Like you're not making any money back by cutting him

0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:31.799
<v Speaker 1>like that all seems a little bit like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>expect that the hi any of paying a half million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for a jersey you don't wear. She got stop.

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that's you ever you like roller coasters

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 1>at all? Yes, I do. That's not like they got

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>well a good point. They got this thing at Cedar

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Point in Ohio called top Thrilled Dragster. It's nine seconds.

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>It just goes four hundred feet in the air and

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<v Speaker 1>straight back down. That's jails my kind of thing. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go real Cedar Points high on my

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<v Speaker 1>bucket list. But that's that's that's Jalan's career trajectory unfortunately. Wow,

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean you thought he might not ever play again,

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:10.959
<v Speaker 1>and then he just should have been a pro bowler.

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 1>In twenty eighteen, signs an eight you know, seventy million

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 1>dollar contract, and now we're talking about if he'll even

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:18.240
<v Speaker 1>get a jersey on game day. That. I mean, that's insane,

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:20.759
<v Speaker 1>that right, we're talking about it. I'm not sure coaches are.

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>So let's be clear. The fact is we're hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>the from we are not hearing it. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we are even idly debating it about a guy on

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 1>that contract is nuts. Yeah, that's true. That ride probably

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<v Speaker 1>you know they've run that multiple times in a day, Yeah,

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in an hour. Yeah, so that's what his hope is,

0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 1>get back on the ride. Yeah up there, back up

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.440
<v Speaker 1>there again. Yeah, his career could just be a bunch

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of those kind of ups. And it could be. And

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:52.800
<v Speaker 1>if it is, then that that's it'll it'll it'll make people,

0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, pissed off all the time, because I mean,

0:54:55.800 --> 0:55:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, honestly, that's Tony Romo's career. It's interesting. Oh

0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't low, I don't know, not that it was.

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a longer ride Tony Romo was That's

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. His career, that was his whole career.

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Was that? Okay, I mean I've been thinking about I

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 1>actually got you know, I did one of those YouTube

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 1>rabbit holes the other day. Broncos Cowboys twenty thirteen. Yeah,

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 1>that was a good game. It was a great game. Yeah.

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>There he had a chance, he had the ball. It

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 1>was forty eight, forty eight. He's sitting at five h

0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:30.919
<v Speaker 1>six in the passing yards the record for all times,

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>five to sixty one, get your team in field goal,

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 1>arrange to go win the game, and you win fifty

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 1>one forty eight. The Broncos, they were defeated. They're undefeated,

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 1>but they were. They were the best they were. They

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.520
<v Speaker 1>set the record. All the best offensive takes him down

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the field and scores a touch or agreets the field goal.

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 1>He's probably gonna get about sixty yards passing, no running.

0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 1>At that point, you're gonna you're gonna set the all

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 1>time passing record. You're gonna outdule pet Manning and you're

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna beat him. Fifty one to forty eight. He could

0:55:57.760 --> 0:55:59.879
<v Speaker 1>have been considered right then and there without playoffs. Six

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:03.359
<v Speaker 1>just I mean he's right on with that top level,

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>top five. Whatever he throws a pick, he wastes his

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 1>great two thousand and six, he comes in, he's the star.

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>All the he fumbles a snap in Seattle sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a book. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, that is

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 1>his career, all these great moments. But it was his

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 1>interception against Washington in the twenty twelve season finale. Dave

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 1>still remembers and didn't even work here then, didn't I

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.279
<v Speaker 1>remember that I didn't have an opinion on Tony Romo

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 1>at that time. People that love Romo have these twelve plays.

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:36.319
<v Speaker 1>The people that hate him have these twelve plays, right,

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:39.439
<v Speaker 1>that's his career, yes, Channel Jalen's not at that point.

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he hadn't done that. He needs the twelve

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:43.840
<v Speaker 1>plays over here. But he's got a few, but he

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>needs more of them. But I mean, maybe that his

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 1>career can be like that. We haven't seen it yet.

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't. It's it's it's hard to watch

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 1>him play and imagine that he's gonna get back to

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 1>that level. He just I hope he does. Hope he does.

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 1>All dude, he's rooting again to Jalen Smith, at least

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:04.880
<v Speaker 1>not in this room. Yeah, but he just looks like

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:08.360
<v Speaker 1>he's lost about three steps from twenty eighteen. Yeah, and

0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I really I agree with your premise. I

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>do think it's it will be a smart idea if

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 1>these coaches can figure out a role for him that

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, because I think it would be better for

0:57:19.240 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the team that you have a guy like that that

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>has some kind of role. I'm just having a hard

0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>time figuring that one out. And obviously they are much

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 1>smarter about this kind of stuff than I am. So

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.280
<v Speaker 1>that's why they're paid those books, is to figure that

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>part out. But I'm just having a hard time figuring

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 1>out where he fits. I just think that's kind of

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:36.200
<v Speaker 1>what makes it easier for me, is the fact that

0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the money, the money is locked in, Like you're can't

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:42.440
<v Speaker 1>improve the team by getting rid of him. And so

0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>if he's just depth, like I said, it's not ideal,

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's better than Jayleen Smith. If he's your best

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>linebacker coming off the bench, that's better than a lot

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 1>of teams have in terms of depth. Yeah. Absolutely, that's

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:57.560
<v Speaker 1>not the end of the world. All right, guys, appreciate

0:57:57.560 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you joining us. We'll be back on Thursday, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit more about Cowboys. Get you guys

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<v Speaker 1>ready action for Cowboys versus Jaguars still then for Nick even,

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